97. Cities
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2024
- Episode 97. Cities
The village is aglow! In episode 97 of Overthink, Ellie and David guide you through the ideas that make a metropolis tick. From Plato’s spotless Republic to Saudi Arabia’s futuristic The Line, they talk the foul and the vibrant of what it means to live in a city. Why are there so few public plazas in Brasilia? Why did David lose his wallet in Mexico City? How do gridded street layouts reflect colonial fantasies? And how did a medieval woman writer, Christine de Pizan, beat Greta Gerwig to the punch in imagining a Barbie-like City of Ladies?
Overthink is a philosophy podcast hosted by your favorite new professors, Ellie Anderson (Pomona College) and David Peña-Guzmán (San Francisco State University). Check out our episodes for deep dives into concepts such as existential anxiety, empathy, and gaslighting.
Works Discussed
Marshall Berman, All That Is Solid Melts Into Air
Don T. Deere, “Coloniality and Disciplinary Power: On Spatial Techniques of Ordering”
Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth
Jane Jacobs, The Life and Death of Great American Cities
Quill R. Kukla, City Living
Christine de Pizan, City of Ladies
Plato, Republic
Angel Rama, The Lettered City
Georg Simmel, “Metropolis and Mental Life”
Iris Marion Young, "City Life and Difference"
Blade Runner (1982)
Parasite (2019)
Barbie (2023)
Overthink ep. 32, Astrology
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Urban planner here - I was so exited when I saw this episode drop! Thank you! Great commentary on the Laws of the Indies. I didn’t learn about the “civilizing” intentions behind them in grad school, but that definitely syncs with my understanding of the period from Stamped from the Beginning, 1491, etc. Also really enjoyed the hermeneutic labor video. You two (and your students) are crushing it.
Thank you, so happy to hear it! :)
I'm an artist and have been on a big urbanism and architecture reading binge lately, this episode is the perfect companion to my studies.
Great episode!
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In the last part of your podcast, the city of ladies, reminds of urban literature of protestant cities that blamed their urban problems on Catholics. So they are constantly building cities to handle the problem of Catholics.
Weber is probably the best known example of this tradition. Even the city planning movement in Chicago wrote about "integrating Catholics". This language comes from the use of ghetto in Venice that Shakespearean got his Shylock character. That same blame game continued in American cities by blaming the most recent immigrants: Swedes, Germans, Irish, Jewish, African Americans, Mexicans, and so on.
City of Ladies is in the same trope: imagine a world without that one problem group. My theory is every city is an half-assed attempted solution to an imagined problem.
"The only phenomenon with which writing has always been concomitant is the creation of cities and empires, that is, the integration of large numbers of individuals into a political system, and their grading into castes or classes" - Claude Levi-Strauss.
Sounds like de Pizan was the Medieval precursor to Charlotte Perkins Gilman (author of "Her Land").
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, which YT didn't suggest to me until six days later, even though I'm a subscriber. Berlin has 12 districts, but many more distinct parts, with great formal and social diversity. On the one hand, a major European capital, yet at the same time, an agglomeration of localities that many people don't even leave very often. I'm in the heart of the city, yet the street, with the square at one end and the church at the other, somehow has always felt a bit like a village. I find that the category "urban" can imply such different experiences that its utility is a bit limited. The urban quality lies in the proximity of possible places to go :)
In Chile there are excellent examples of both ("planned", chessboard cities; and "organic" cities). The capital and several of the large inland cities, just a couple hours from the coast, are perfect gridded, planned planes. The main ports (because they have been important for a long time before) are much more disordered, they grew like European cities, according to needs. (suburbs here are often similar, growing haphazardly on the edges of the city)
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The city of Rio de Janeiro, in Brazil, totally sums up the socio-economic segregation in the country. Poorer people live in the «favelas» and richer people might enjoy americanised neighbourhoods
Spinning is this relevant for the city of ladies because being a spinsteres (spelling?) Was one of the few well paid jobs for women and many of them were unmarried because they didn't need a husband for financial support. (If I remember correctly)
Aw, why no parallels to The Practice of Everyday Life by Michel de Certeau? I am excited to see Fanon on your list... can you believe I ALMOST taught his texts to an advanced literature HIGH SCHOOL class. One can only dream...
We've discussed de Certeau elsewhere--check out our "Walking" and "Why Millennials Love Homemaking" episodes!
@@OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy I did use a couple of your videos when I was still teaching that advanced literature HS class.
The line is neither the most efficient layout nor a compelling shape for any type of useful and functioning city. It is another architectural brutalism like Brasilia, Le Carbosier's concrete cities like Chandigarh, the endless Russian apartment blocks built by the communists, or the newly minted fake cities built recently in China. They are all just at a scale larger than Haussmann's boulevards for Paris and Robert Moses's highways for New York.
The line as a city can be made to work just like the skyscrapers in Dubai and other desert locations with 70% vacancy rates and no functioning sewer system. Each morning, the city's sewage is transported in trucks to collection points outside the city.
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