Hi Thomas the flex mast is a big problem with jibs but because spinnaker are used down wind the flex in the mast doesn’t matter. My brother has got a jib on his Ti he filled the mast with foam to stop the flex but we haven’t tried it out yet . Mark
Mark, I've tried a furling jib twice now, once with the Hobie mast spinnaker top and the second time a pipe cross where the forward pipe attached to the jib and the sides attached to shrouds that went to the ama's. The problem that I kept having was the flexibility of the mast and the aka's. In light winds the jib worked fine In heavy winds the jib would just shake like crazy because I couldn't get the forestay tight enough and it would actually slow the boat down. Do you experience this?
Hi Mark, Thankyou for sharing this as this is a brilliant setup. I hope you can answer a couple of questions for me please. 1. Are your Top and Bottom Furlers Harken or Ronstan units?? 2. Whereabouts in Brisbane did you get your Torsion Rope built and too what length?? Once again many Thanks for this setup, Cheers, Richard.
Thanks for your interest Richard I just got the Ronstan because it was the cheapest online at boating warehouse the torsion rope from sailmaker I got mine from Manders sails at Underwood length about 5.4 easy to cut with hacksaw hope this helps Mark
Absolute brilliant ❤. The best setup I have seen 👌. Well done mate. Very well done in deed. Questions.... What electric motor you use there? Where did you buy all the jib hardware? Any advice very much appreciated 👍. Greetings from Spain 🇪🇸
Well done. Had a spinnaker for my TI but sold it with the boat. Now without a spinnaker with my new TI. Always found the batten was getting messed up with the back stay. Hobie now has an extension for the mast topper but figure it still would interfere. I see what you did by cutting the battan. Did the cut in the batten impact sailing performance? Would appreciate links to the torsion rope and continuous reefer parts. Thanks.
Hi James cutting the batten has not effected sailing performance I spoke to a sailmaker before I cut the batten.The endless fuller I bought online from a site called Boating Central the torsion rope you can get for sailmaker. Hope this helps Mark
Sorry I just asked you how it all attaches up top but this explains it all. Would it all work on a 2014 single seat Adventure Island. Also would it be ok with a small jib up wind.....or would I need to add shrouds. Having a sail up front makes the boat looks so good. Thanks Mark.
Hi John for a jib to work upwind you need to have the forstay tight enough mast is to flexible and centre board to far back. Spinnaker/ reacher will work on adventure island hobie make a spinnaker for it .Adding shrouds would have to be attached to mast about 1 metre down from the top of the mast which would stop it from furling hope this helps
A few years ago, I did something similar with the spinnaker on my Hobie AI: ua-cam.com/video/7I6PNaX_ze0/v-deo.html However, I've since found it much more useful to fly a furling jib, rather than the spinnaker. I find that downwind, the jib is almost as effective as the spinnaker, and at every other point of sail, the jib wins, hands down. Here is a video of my jib setup (this video shows an aluminum mast for the jib, which I've since replaced with carbon fiber): ua-cam.com/video/rwNUI6AXudo/v-deo.html IMHO, there are a few keys to making a jib work on an AI or TI: 1) An aluminum or carbon fiber mast is necessary for the jib. A lot of people try using a wire or flexible mast (e.g., PVC pipe), and in my experience, those give very poor results, as they cannot hold the required sail shape 2) A custom bowsprit is needed. This is used to put the jib at enough of an angle to generate some lift; otherwise the jib will tend to push the nose down, and you will not gain much speed, while putting a lot of extra strain in the boat 3) I'd strongly recommend getting a quality continuous furler (Ronstan makes a good small one that is not too outrageously expensive) 4) A custom mast topper is absolutely essential (mine is made from PVC pipe, so it does not need to be anything expensive)
Hi Thomas the flex mast is a big problem with jibs but because spinnaker are used down wind the flex in the mast doesn’t matter. My brother has got a jib on his Ti he filled the mast with foam to stop the flex but we haven’t tried it out yet .
Mark
Furling kit seems so much neater than having the sock thingy ( wording shows I’m just new to the spinnaker )!
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Mark,
I've tried a furling jib twice now, once with the Hobie mast spinnaker top and the second time a pipe cross where the forward
pipe attached to the jib and the sides attached to shrouds that went to the ama's. The problem that I kept having was the flexibility of the mast and the aka's. In light winds the jib worked fine In heavy winds the jib would just shake like crazy because I couldn't get the forestay tight enough and it would actually slow the boat down. Do you experience this?
Hi, great setup where can I buy a boat I am from South Africa
Hi mate I am from Australia but if you find a Hobie dealer in South Africa
Thanks Mark
Hi Mark, Thankyou for sharing this as this is a brilliant setup. I hope you can answer a couple of questions for me please.
1. Are your Top and Bottom Furlers Harken or Ronstan units??
2. Whereabouts in Brisbane did you get your Torsion Rope built and too what length??
Once again many Thanks for this setup,
Cheers,
Richard.
Thanks for your interest Richard I just got the Ronstan because it was the cheapest online at boating warehouse the torsion rope from sailmaker I got mine from Manders sails at Underwood length about 5.4 easy to cut with hacksaw hope this helps
Mark
Absolute brilliant ❤.
The best setup I have seen 👌.
Well done mate.
Very well done in deed.
Questions....
What electric motor you use there?
Where did you buy all the jib hardware?
Any advice very much appreciated 👍.
Greetings from Spain 🇪🇸
Thank you 😊
Well done. Had a spinnaker for my TI but sold it with the boat. Now without a spinnaker with my new TI. Always found the batten was getting messed up with the back stay. Hobie now has an extension for the mast topper but figure it still would interfere. I see what you did by cutting the battan. Did the cut in the batten impact sailing performance? Would appreciate links to the torsion rope and continuous reefer parts. Thanks.
Hi James cutting the batten has not effected sailing performance I spoke to a sailmaker before I cut the batten.The endless fuller I bought online from a site called Boating Central the torsion rope you can get for sailmaker.
Hope this helps
Mark
James also if you get a new spinnaker from a sailmaker they can design it without a torsion rope.
Sorry I just asked you how it all attaches up top but this explains it all. Would it all work on a 2014 single seat Adventure Island. Also would it be ok with a small jib up wind.....or would I need to add shrouds. Having a sail up front makes the boat looks so good. Thanks Mark.
Hi John for a jib to work upwind you need to have the forstay tight enough mast is to flexible and centre board to far back.
Spinnaker/ reacher will work on adventure island hobie make a spinnaker for it .Adding shrouds would have to be attached to mast about 1 metre down from the top of the mast which would stop it from furling hope this helps
A few years ago, I did something similar with the spinnaker on my Hobie AI:
ua-cam.com/video/7I6PNaX_ze0/v-deo.html
However, I've since found it much more useful to fly a furling jib, rather than the spinnaker. I find that downwind, the jib is almost as effective as the spinnaker, and at every other point of sail, the jib wins, hands down. Here is a video of my jib setup (this video shows an aluminum mast for the jib, which I've since replaced with carbon fiber):
ua-cam.com/video/rwNUI6AXudo/v-deo.html
IMHO, there are a few keys to making a jib work on an AI or TI:
1) An aluminum or carbon fiber mast is necessary for the jib. A lot of people try using a wire or flexible mast (e.g., PVC pipe), and in my experience, those give very poor results, as they cannot hold the required sail shape
2) A custom bowsprit is needed. This is used to put the jib at enough of an angle to generate some lift; otherwise the jib will tend to push the nose down, and you will not gain much speed, while putting a lot of extra strain in the boat
3) I'd strongly recommend getting a quality continuous furler (Ronstan makes a good small one that is not too outrageously expensive)
4) A custom mast topper is absolutely essential (mine is made from PVC pipe, so it does not need to be anything expensive)
Each to his own I prefer the spinnaker thanks for sharing what you have done
Cheers
Forgot to mention that I use the same Ronstan furler that Mark uses in this video, and I find that it works great.
Nice setup, do you have any links to the parts used?
Hi James thanks for your interest a hobie dealer sail maker and chandlery should help.