What a beautiful church and singing. I don't understand the language, but I felt the Holy Spirit of my brothers and sisters in Christ. God Bless the Catholic Church and Catholic Faithful. Peace be with us.
Syro Malabar Catholic Church in India and Chaldean Catholic Church in Iraq are only two Eastern Catholic churches in Catholic Church which uses East Syriac Liturgy. We also have a archdiocese of Assyrian Church of East in India based in Kerala. Indian Christians in Kerala also called as Marthoma Nazranis or St Thomas Christians until arrival of Portuguese in 1491 used East Syriac as liturgical language. Portuguese tried to latinize us, although a small community joined latin Church, majority remained faithful to faith of their forefathers. Later, few members joined Syriac Orthodox Church which Church uses West Syriac Liturgy. Today we have three rites in Catholic Church in India, Syro Malabar Church using East Syriac rite, Syro Malankara Church using West Syriac Rite and Latin Catholic or Roman Catholics using Latin Rite. India Today has second Largest Christian Population in Asia after Phillipines.
@@duraeddendo9055 there is no such thing as the Chaldean language you guys are trying to come up with a new language just like when Catholics are asked if they are Christians they say no we are Catholics. with all due respect get your facts right and trace the schism that separated our churches and now our people.
@@neenabzamro3759 if you ask a catholic if they’re christian, we say yes…. catholics are christian’s but christian’s aren’t catholic. also dialect is different between assyrian and chaldean. the main similarity is our mass. but chaldean and assyrian are different dialects.
@@dovrose5155 Both were a part of the same Church. Chaldean Church formed on AD 1552. The St Thomas Christians of Kerala seperated on AD 1599. That is the year when the St. Thomas Christians were seperated from the Church of the East by the Synod of Diamper.
@@danieljoseph4745 Sort of. The Syro-Malabar Church has celibate priesthood but Syro-Chaldeans have married priests. The spirituality of the Syro-Malabar Church is highly latinised and has a strong Charismatic flavour. Liturgy in some dioceses are highly influenced by the post Vatican second 'Novus Ordo" experiment of the Latin Church. Unlike the Chaldeans the Syro-Malabars in the last 50 to 60 years have nearly forgotten the East Syriac language. There are restoration efforts now taking place in certain quarters inside the Syro-Malabar Church of its east Syriac liturgy (in its fullness) and preservation of the Syriac language. Though there are Latin and post Vatican second influence( just as the congregation facing priest in the video demonstrates) in the Chaldean Church, I dont think they are as pronounced as in the Syro-Malabar Church
@@dovrose5155 Here is a brief history: The church was a group of St Thomas Christians without strict hierarchy or leadership apart from the Apostle Thomas(just like the early Christian community in the book of Acts), then we came under the leadership of the church of the East when at 250-325AD Bishops Mar David and Mar Yohannan became metropolitan of India. This carried on, and there was a division within the church of the East in 1553 and the Chaldean Catholic Bishop Shimun VIII Yohannan Sulaqa united the church with Rome. The successor of this bishop, Abdisho IV Maron, sends Mar Joseph Sulaqa in 1555 as the bishop of all St Thomas Christians in Kerela. Bsp. Abdisho also sends Bsp. Abraham of Angamaly(1564) for the St Thomas Christians of India. By this stage, the St Thomas Christians are led by Chaldean Catholic Bishops of the Church of the East, who are in full communion with the church in Rome. The St Thomas Christians are all identified by being:1)East Syriac in liturgy and 2)Under the guidance Chaldean Catholic bishops in communion with Rome. After this comes the troubles of the Latins meddling with the church and causing the Synod of Diamper. Some St Thomas Christians resisted the Latin rule, which is commendable, but they decided to start a new church by coming into communion with the Syriac Orthodox (West Syriac church) adopting a new Liturgy and new guidance. This is then fractured several times by infighting and evangelization by Protestant sects. The other St Thomas Christians, stay under Latin Rule and have their East Syriac Liturgy Latinised. However, they slowly remove Latinisation from their church and now have the full support of Rome in restoring what was modified. Additionally, the Malankara Catholic church returns into communion with Rome. The Anaphora of Mar Addai and Mar Mari is still said at every Qurbana, the Anaphora of Mar Nestorius is allowed, and the Latin church realises it's mistake and helps the St Thomas Christians to undo the damage caused by the synod of Diamper. I am part of the choir that sing the ancient East Syriac hymns of "Lakhu Mara" and "Qadisha Alaha" in our Qurbana. The Syro Malabar Church and the Chaldean Catholic church keep their East Syriac liturgy, strengthening each other to restore any lost practices, and keep their connection as part of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. References: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syro-Malabar_Catholic_Church en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Sulaqa en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_of_Angamaly en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimun_VIII_Yohannan_Sulaqa en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdisho_IV_Maron en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Syro-Malabar_Catholic_Church en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_East en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Church_of_the_East en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_Catholic_Church en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liturgy_of_Addai_and_Mari www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/syro-malabar-liturgy www.academia.edu/39105539/Restoration_and_Reform_of_Syro_Malabar_Missal_Important_Documents_from_1954_to_1969
THE ORIGINAL ASSYRIAN CHURCH WAS ESTABLISHED BY SAINT THOMAS . LATER IT BECAME A ORTHODOX CHURCH . A GROUP OF BELIEVERS CAME BACK TO CATHOLIC FOLD AND THEY ARE THE CHALDEAN S IN IRAQ ETC. IN KERALA NOBODY SPEAKS SURIANI(ARAMAIC) .BUT THE MALANKARA CATHOLIC, JACOBITE, ORTHODOX CHURCHES AND MAR THOMA CHURCHES USE WEST SYRIAC ( ARAMAIC ) FOR THEIR LITURGY WHILE THE CHALDEANS OR ASSYRIAN CHURCH (SURAIS) NEAR TRICHUR CHALAKUDY ETC, USE THE EAST SYRIAC IN LITURGY ARAMAIC WAS THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN BY JESUS CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES AND IN VAST AREA IN ANCIENT DAYS BEFORE STARTING MALAYALAM LITURGY IN SYRO MALABAR CHURCH THE LITURGY WAS IN EAST SYRIAC (CHALDEAN) A DIALECT OF ARAMAIC
I cannot help but seeing how sad it is that these people have been so influenced by Vat II. What happened to the curtain as in the Assyrian Church and what happened to the priest facing God when praying? It looks like a RC ethnic church and not a separate rite.
Don’t lie. They brought curtains now and people are opposing it. These terrorists tried it in ekm-angmali and got their fingers burnt. Good old days for these liars has caused the church there grow just by giving birth within. They used church on weekdays to sell slaves. After the Portuguese came they learned to be evangelical and understood their real mission entrusted by st. Thomas and Christ. Now murmuring against the jesuits of which pope is one. Shame on the shameless. When they fight they will go to the Latin church as last refuge. After mass, latins stinks. Fight each other for facing and not facing altar, then shamelessly go to nearby Latin rite church. There they do not care priest facing people. Evudun-enkilum vannh keerum
Syriac is the opposite of Chinese which uses one (script?) set of characters for vastly different spoken languages like Mandarin, Hokkien, Hakka, Taiwanese, Cantonese , etc. In Syriac, the same spoken language has many different scripts, the oldest known one being called Estrangela. This priest is originally from the Syro-Malabar Church based in Keralam , India which followed East Syriac as it's liturgical language using the liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Mari till 1962 when the language changed to Malayalam. He is serving the Chaldean Catholic Church which uses the same liturgy. The Indian one is modified over the centuries by Portuguese and Indian nationalists but essentially still the same. The sounds are very similar and the grammar is the same as West Syriac but the alphabet is different. East Syriac uses Madnaya script and West Syriac uses Serto script. The East Syriac Rite or East Syrian Rite, also called the Edessan Rite, Assyrian Rite, Persian Rite, Chaldean Rite, Nestorian Rite, Babylonian Rite or Syro-Oriental Rite, is an Eastern Christian liturgical rite that employs the Divine Liturgy of Saints Addai and Mari and the East Syriac dialect as its liturgical language. It is one of two main liturgical rites of Syriac Christianity, the other being the West Syriac Rite (Syro-Antiochene Rite). The West Syriac Rite, also called the Syro-Antiochian Rite and the West Syrian Rite, is an Eastern Christian liturgical rite that employs the Divine Liturgy of Saint James in the West Syriac dialect. It is practised in the Maronite Church, the Syriac Orthodox Church, the Syriac Catholic Church and various Malankara Churches of India (see the section on usage below). It is one of two main liturgical rites of Syriac Christianity.
@@jesusacuna309 Even though you know the original and correct name of Christ However, you write the wrong name Note that the names are not translated or changed
@@jesusacuna309 sorry for you Perhaps my expression in English was not enough to clarify You write your name Jesus Acuna And you know that Jesus was not called Jesus? But his name is correct Ishoa
No, he is an indian priest who has been trained for the Chaldean rite. Though technically, both Chaldean and Syro Malabar rites are both eastern syriac rites. They are not very different.
we are in communion with rome but we don't eat meat,fish, milk products in friday,tuesday,saturday. Latins are allowed to eat meat and don't need to fast during season of great fast only need to pray instead. We pray and fast together. Moreover Rome once said our church is heretic but now heretic church is stronger and strengthening the "west".
Assyrians are a group of Aramaic-speaking people indigenous to Iraq and Syria. They were the original Mesopotamians. Much later, the Greeks conquered the region until the Arab muslims kicked them out. Assyrians had their own Church tradition. They were evangelized by St. Addai and Mari who were disciples of St. Thadeus. The Assyrian Church originally had the Orthodox faith. However, many of them they were under Persian control and not under the Roman Empire. It is for this reason that the heresy of Nestorius took roots. The Assyrian Church, isolated from the Orthodox communities, gradually accepted Nestorianism. Much later, a group of them returned to Orthodox Christology but by the means of the Papacy in Rome. Many Western costums and practices were adopted. They are now known as "Chaldeans", which is merely another name for the Assyrian people. Most Assyrians are Catholic (about 70%) and the rest of them are Nestorians.
Jerin Mathew What? I don’t really understand your statement. You are in communion with Rome, which means you are Catholic. Which means you have the same theology but expressed in a different way. Are you claiming that the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church is in heresy?
Bao Duong That’s not what he’s saying at all. He’s saying that HIS Church was once considered heretical by Rome, but now his “heretical” Church is getting stronger and strengthening the universal Catholic communion in the West.
مع كل احترام لكلامك ، مهما كنت ، كنيسة كاثوليكية بقومية كلدانيه ، الكلدان موجودين منذ الأزل ، والدليل على ذالك آثار بابل لازالت موجودة لحد اليوم وكذلك بيوت ابونا ابراهيم خليل الله لازال موجود في مدينة الناصرية لحد اليوم ، وكذلك الكتاب المقدس يقول وقد خرج ابراهيم من اور الكلدانيه ويوجد الكثير من الأنبياء الكلدان المذكورين في الكتاب المقدس . واذا كان كلامك صحيح فإن الكتاب المقدس هو كذبه والآثار الموجودة لحد الان كذبه ايضا كي نصدك كلامك ايها العزيز . اطلب من الاخ العزيز احترام القوميات الاخر وبدون الغاء الاخر فنحن كا كلدان واشوريين وسريان قد اتحدنا بعد مجيئ يسوع المسيح فصارت القوميات الثلاثه واحد في المسيح يسوع
الاخ قال بان الكنيسة يحضرون الكلدان والاشوريين بنفس الكنيسة لسماع القداس بسبب الوحدة بين الكنيستين ...... وايضا الامبراطورية الاشورية قديمة لانه تم كتابة اكثر من عشرة اسماء لملوك قبل ان يعرف التاريخ ونحن هنا لسنا في انه من الاقدم اوموغل في القدم ....
@@duraeddendo9055 الكلدان معناهة الفرس بالاكدية. كانو عبارة عن مكون داخل المكونات البقية الاشورية وكانو منجمين لا اكثر ولا اقل. التسمية الكلدانية علة الكنيسة الكلداني اتت في سنة تقريبا 1600+ عندما اعطى بابا روما هذا الاسم للكنيسة الكلدانية لكي لا تتشبه للناس بانها الكنيسة الشرقية القديمة وايضا اعطاها اسم بابل نسبة للنبي ابراهيم من اور. مع العلم الكنيسة الكلدانية مار يوخنا موسس الكنيسة الكلدانية سماها بالاول كنيسة المشرق لنينوى والموصل. القومية اشورية ولاكن التبعية لروما والمذهب كلداني. هذا ملخص كل شي حدث ل 700 عام الفاتت. اني احفزك لان تدرس اكثر عن تاريخ كنيسة المشرق واساس الكنيسة الكلدانية.
I remember when Catholics came among Chaldeans and concerted them from church of the East to Catholic using money anyone familiar with fnkaye 😂 this Indian guys is speaking Assyrian eastern accent and not Assyrian Chaldean eastern accent so that means he used to be with church of the East than Chaldean came yo let's make a deal bro we will pay you come to us and the guy wait iaghttt 😂
@polish Lithuanian Commonwealth I did hear this from a Jewish Indian guy and I was talking about Iraq this happened in Iraq not India we are proud of Indian's who speaks our language shame on those assyrians and assyrian Chaldeans who can't speak our Language and good job to you who speaks it tho you not even assyrian but you speaking my language And why can't you come back to church of the east You can stop going to Catholic easy go to church of the east tho I don't care I personally don't like Catholic and I don't seem them as Christians we disagree with their laws non of middle Eastern church's agree even if they are Catholic I like orthodox more
@Younan Yaqoob my grandma was Portuguese Catholic "my mom's mother" I have heard from Christians Indian's saying the same thing how they Burned thier scriptures idk why 🤷🏻♂️ But I don't like Catholic roman and Vatican you already know what they did cuz you are assyrian How they paied our people go leave church of the east and be Catholic I'm talking about Chaldeans Vatican gave this name for them Chaldean which is Latin word and it's not a nice word cuz they have heard the original word from our old Language which was khashidm Hebrews used to call them that too it means magicians They divided us into 3 assyrians Chaldeans Syriacs aka arameans fuck is Chaldean fuck is Syriac fuck is aramaic fuck is arameans where did all this come from I wonder why we saying assyrian with s sound and not sh Latin Language and geeks Romans Vatican Persian Arabs Kurds matter of fact Muslims in general even our own brothers Jewish are a big people for our identity past religion native etc I don't like Catholic at alll I like orthodox more they wayyyy better btw I'm eastern assyrian from nother land Ashur arabelo aka erbil shalam khona Tbh your brothers (Chaldeans and Syriacs) hates you to death they will never be one never and you know it which is very painful and sooo bad
@Younan Yaqoob tbh with you your Syriac orthodox don't like my church yet Syriacs were part of our church way before Catholic and orthodox exist not just your Bishop's but some of your people really hates us would you call yourself assyrian Syriac? Or western assyrian ? Or just Syriac or aramean ? How do you identify yourself ? I don't know if Portuguese did anything to Assyrian Church of the east but Catholic hell yeah they divide everyone Indian and China matter of fact Asia used to follow our church now lol Indian's are all Catholic 🤷🏻♂️ Assyrians and western assyrian aka Syriacs plus Chaldeans used to be under this church "church of the east which is the oldest church that was created by mar toma in South Iraq in kukhe But Chaldeans completely became Catholic they even Left our traditions church traditions Syriacs left they church but they didn't leave the traditions matter of fact orthodox kinda took from our traditions When Catholic excited Assyrian Church of the east was under Persian empire we were having troubles with them, Syriacs were under Roman empire that's why we became called easterns and westerns I'm eastern assyrian church of the east my great great father's are all from hakkari south turkey So you are western assyrian orthodox right ? If yes you can speak our Language I'll understand you You know we may be divided but we all believe in one Bible and one Jesus one god one baptism I had some roman Catholics telling me Jesus is not god he's just son of God well from my understanding from bible and my church and middle eastern church's we all believe that Jesus is god That's why we use this ܝܗܼ̈ܿ in our church flag
@Younan Yaqoob don't dare and call us nestorians that ain't cool at allllll We do not like to be called that and that's not a church that was a person that Catholics had issues with so they called my church nestorians but our church's name is and was church of the East And I do but like what my church and what Syriac orthodox and what chaldean Catholic taught you Indian's Syrian Syriac Surat surath aramiac all these things that I have seen used by Christians Indian's that my church did not tell you about the truth what these means and where did they came from Nestorian is not a church he was a person and it's a long history behind it full of hate
@Younan Yaqoob idk what's that so I Googled it and this is what it says The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church or Church of Malabar Syrian Catholics, is an Eastern Catholic Major Archiepiscopal Church based in Kerala, India. Wikipedia Separation: Marth Mariam Cathedral Church, Chaldean Syrian Church of the East (1870s) Major Archbishop: George Alencherry Founder: Thomas the Apostle Founded: 52 AD Liturgy: East Syriac Rite; (Liturgy of Addai and Mari) Headquarters: Ernakulam, India Chaldean Syrian church that absolutely doesn't make any sense what the hell is that since when do we have that Christians of Indian are been lied too this is so so so mixed
I am a catholic from Indonesia. I love you all. God bless everyone
What a beautiful church and singing. I don't understand the language, but I felt the Holy Spirit of my brothers and sisters in Christ. God Bless the Catholic Church and Catholic Faithful. Peace be with us.
Syro Malabar Catholic Church in India and Chaldean Catholic Church in Iraq are only two Eastern Catholic churches in Catholic Church which uses East Syriac Liturgy. We also have a archdiocese of Assyrian Church of East in India based in Kerala. Indian Christians in Kerala also called as Marthoma Nazranis or St Thomas Christians until arrival of Portuguese in 1491 used East Syriac as liturgical language. Portuguese tried to latinize us, although a small community joined latin Church, majority remained faithful to faith of their forefathers. Later, few members joined Syriac Orthodox Church which Church uses West Syriac Liturgy. Today we have three rites in Catholic Church in India, Syro Malabar Church using East Syriac rite, Syro Malankara Church using West Syriac Rite and Latin Catholic or Roman Catholics using Latin Rite. India Today has second Largest Christian Population in Asia after Phillipines.
This priest is from Manickamangalam parish of Ernakuam Angamaly Arch diocese,kerala ,India;
29:00 his Assyrian language is so clear. God bless you father
No brother this is a chaldean language not assyrian language, there is big different between them
@@duraeddendo9055 I’m Assyrian and I speak exactly like this man. The language is called Assyrian. In our language it’s called sureth.
@@duraeddendo9055 there is no such thing as the Chaldean language you guys are trying to come up with a new language just like when Catholics are asked if they are Christians they say no we are Catholics. with all due respect get your facts right and trace the schism that separated our churches and now our people.
@@neenabzamro3759 if you ask a catholic if they’re christian, we say yes…. catholics are christian’s but christian’s aren’t catholic. also dialect is different between assyrian and chaldean. the main similarity is our mass. but chaldean and assyrian are different dialects.
@@duraeddendo9055 this mass is in assyrian. chaldean and assyrian mass are practiced the same way but they’re different dialect.
Amen miss you kasha joosef God bless you
Priest born in the Syro-Malabar Church celebrating mass for the Syro-Chaldeans.
Isn't it the same rite and tradition?
@@dovrose5155 Both were a part of the same Church. Chaldean Church formed on AD 1552. The St Thomas Christians of Kerala seperated on AD 1599. That is the year when the St. Thomas Christians were seperated from the Church of the East by the Synod of Diamper.
LetGodbeGlorified they are practically the same right?
@@danieljoseph4745 Sort of. The Syro-Malabar Church has celibate priesthood but Syro-Chaldeans have married priests. The spirituality of the Syro-Malabar Church is highly latinised and has a strong Charismatic flavour. Liturgy in some dioceses are highly influenced by the post Vatican second 'Novus Ordo" experiment of the Latin Church. Unlike the Chaldeans the Syro-Malabars in the last 50 to 60 years have nearly forgotten the East Syriac language. There are restoration efforts now taking place in certain quarters inside the Syro-Malabar Church of its east Syriac liturgy (in its fullness) and preservation of the Syriac language.
Though there are Latin and post Vatican second influence( just as the congregation facing priest in the video demonstrates) in the Chaldean Church, I dont think they are as pronounced as in the Syro-Malabar Church
@@dovrose5155 Here is a brief history:
The church was a group of St Thomas Christians without strict hierarchy or leadership apart from the Apostle Thomas(just like the early Christian community in the book of Acts), then we came under the leadership of the church of the East when at 250-325AD Bishops Mar David and Mar Yohannan became metropolitan of India. This carried on, and there was a division within the church of the East in 1553 and the Chaldean Catholic Bishop Shimun VIII Yohannan Sulaqa united the church with Rome. The successor of this bishop, Abdisho IV Maron, sends Mar Joseph Sulaqa in 1555 as the bishop of all St Thomas Christians in Kerela. Bsp. Abdisho also sends Bsp. Abraham of Angamaly(1564) for the St Thomas Christians of India.
By this stage, the St Thomas Christians are led by Chaldean Catholic Bishops of the Church of the East, who are in full communion with the church in Rome. The St Thomas Christians are all identified by being:1)East Syriac in liturgy and 2)Under the guidance Chaldean Catholic bishops in communion with Rome.
After this comes the troubles of the Latins meddling with the church and causing the Synod of Diamper. Some St Thomas Christians resisted the Latin rule, which is commendable, but they decided to start a new church by coming into communion with the Syriac Orthodox (West Syriac church) adopting a new Liturgy and new guidance. This is then fractured several times by infighting and evangelization by Protestant sects.
The other St Thomas Christians, stay under Latin Rule and have their East Syriac Liturgy Latinised. However, they slowly remove Latinisation from their church and now have the full support of Rome in restoring what was modified. Additionally, the Malankara Catholic church returns into communion with Rome. The Anaphora of Mar Addai and Mar Mari is still said at every Qurbana, the Anaphora of Mar Nestorius is allowed, and the Latin church realises it's mistake and helps the St Thomas Christians to undo the damage caused by the synod of Diamper. I am part of the choir that sing the ancient East Syriac hymns of "Lakhu Mara" and "Qadisha Alaha" in our Qurbana. The Syro Malabar Church and the Chaldean Catholic church keep their East Syriac liturgy, strengthening each other to restore any lost practices, and keep their connection as part of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
References:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syro-Malabar_Catholic_Church
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Sulaqa
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_of_Angamaly
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimun_VIII_Yohannan_Sulaqa
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdisho_IV_Maron
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Syro-Malabar_Catholic_Church
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_East
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_Church_of_the_East
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_Catholic_Church
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liturgy_of_Addai_and_Mari
www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/syro-malabar-liturgy
www.academia.edu/39105539/Restoration_and_Reform_of_Syro_Malabar_Missal_Important_Documents_from_1954_to_1969
Praise god 🙏
this priest is from Kerala... ordained for the Chaldean Catholic church
Jintu George I'm Assyrian too God bless you brother!!!! God bless our church and God bless our brothers and sisters in India :-)
Tony ' fight me 1v1
Jintu George
Is there a community in Kerala that speak Aramaic? I know St. Thomas was the apostle who converted the people to Christianity.
THE ORIGINAL ASSYRIAN CHURCH WAS ESTABLISHED BY SAINT THOMAS . LATER IT BECAME A ORTHODOX CHURCH . A GROUP OF BELIEVERS CAME BACK TO CATHOLIC FOLD AND THEY ARE THE CHALDEAN S IN IRAQ ETC. IN KERALA NOBODY SPEAKS SURIANI(ARAMAIC) .BUT THE MALANKARA CATHOLIC, JACOBITE, ORTHODOX CHURCHES AND MAR THOMA CHURCHES USE WEST SYRIAC ( ARAMAIC ) FOR THEIR LITURGY WHILE THE CHALDEANS OR ASSYRIAN CHURCH (SURAIS) NEAR TRICHUR CHALAKUDY ETC, USE THE EAST SYRIAC IN LITURGY ARAMAIC WAS THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN BY JESUS CHRIST AND HIS DISCIPLES AND IN VAST AREA IN ANCIENT DAYS BEFORE STARTING MALAYALAM LITURGY IN SYRO MALABAR CHURCH THE LITURGY WAS IN EAST SYRIAC (CHALDEAN) A DIALECT OF ARAMAIC
Assyrian church became orthodox!!Better you study history again
The syro malabar catholic church of kerala also follows the same east syriac rite and has syriac, bilingual, and malayalam masses(qurbana).
May God bless you all.
Jesus bless you all
God bless you all
BRO THIS IS AMAZING ❤️❤️
GOOD ONE KASHA JOOSEF
GOOD ONE ST THOMAS
Miss you father from mambra diocese...
God Bless u Father .
He is from Kerala. Land of mar Thoma Nasranis (st thomas Christians)
The Chaldean Assyrian Catholic holy mass is basically similar to Syro Malabar holy Qurbana
maybe you are from north or southern iraq or aziziyia you left iraq because of islamic ivasion
@@shmonilazar9935
Both Syro Malabar Church and Assyrian Chaldean Churches were one at a time.
we were the church of the east but a chaldean( catholic assyrians) schiasm happened in the 1500s and here we are now.
Its the same, only change in language they use. Hope Church authority will come to their roots and adopt their former holymass.
Same east syriac rite
I cannot help but seeing how sad it is that these people have been so influenced by Vat II. What happened to the curtain as in the Assyrian Church and what happened to the priest facing God when praying? It looks like a RC ethnic church and not a separate rite.
The Syro Malabar Church in Kerala, fortunately still retains veil and ad orientem Mass in many places
Don’t lie.
They brought curtains now and people are opposing it.
These terrorists tried it in ekm-angmali and got their fingers burnt.
Good old days for these liars has caused the church there grow just by giving birth within. They used church on weekdays to sell slaves.
After the Portuguese came they learned to be evangelical and understood their real mission entrusted by st. Thomas and Christ.
Now murmuring against the jesuits of which pope is one.
Shame on the shameless.
When they fight they will go to the Latin church as last refuge.
After mass, latins stinks.
Fight each other for facing and not facing altar, then shamelessly go to nearby Latin rite church.
There they do not care priest facing people.
Evudun-enkilum vannh keerum
Syriac is the opposite of Chinese which uses one (script?) set of characters for vastly different spoken languages like Mandarin, Hokkien, Hakka, Taiwanese, Cantonese , etc. In Syriac, the same spoken language has many different scripts, the oldest known one being called Estrangela.
This priest is originally from the Syro-Malabar Church based in Keralam , India which followed East Syriac as it's liturgical language using the liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Mari till 1962 when the language changed to Malayalam. He is serving the Chaldean Catholic Church which uses the same liturgy. The Indian one is modified over the centuries by Portuguese and Indian nationalists but essentially still the same. The sounds are very similar and the grammar is the same as West Syriac but the alphabet is different. East Syriac uses Madnaya script and West Syriac uses Serto script.
The East Syriac Rite or East Syrian Rite, also called the Edessan Rite, Assyrian Rite, Persian Rite, Chaldean Rite, Nestorian Rite, Babylonian Rite or Syro-Oriental Rite, is an Eastern Christian liturgical rite that employs the Divine Liturgy of Saints Addai and Mari and the East Syriac dialect as its liturgical language. It is one of two main liturgical rites of Syriac Christianity, the other being the West Syriac Rite (Syro-Antiochene Rite).
The West Syriac Rite, also called the Syro-Antiochian Rite and the West Syrian Rite, is an Eastern Christian liturgical rite that employs the Divine Liturgy of Saint James in the West Syriac dialect. It is practised in the Maronite Church, the Syriac Orthodox Church, the Syriac Catholic Church and various Malankara Churches of India (see the section on usage below). It is one of two main liturgical rites of Syriac Christianity.
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What is the original name of Christ when he was among his people؟
Yeshu3, sometimes pronounced Isho3. This is spelled ישוע/ܝܫܘܥ/يشوع
@@jesusacuna309 Even though you know the original and correct name of Christ
However, you write the wrong name
Note that the names are not translated or changed
@@user-Alhashemi what wrong name did I write?
@@jesusacuna309 sorry for you
Perhaps my expression in English was not enough to clarify
You write your name Jesus Acuna
And you know that Jesus was not called Jesus?
But his name is correct Ishoa
@@user-Alhashemi That's my actual name...
وين هذا المكان..؟؟
كنيسة مار توما في سيدني
shima babba bduna duha kucha
Is it syromalabar chruch?
No, he is an indian priest who has been trained for the Chaldean rite. Though technically, both Chaldean and Syro Malabar rites are both eastern syriac rites. They are not very different.
Moses King there Chaldean not Indian
@@vegeta9585 The priest is Indian, celebrating the qurbana for Chaldeans
Bijo Geo Jose ok
there is cofusion about Nesthorians and Assyrians . can somebody shed light about this?
we are in communion with rome but we don't eat meat,fish, milk products in friday,tuesday,saturday. Latins are allowed to eat meat and don't need to fast during season of great fast only need to pray instead. We pray and fast together. Moreover Rome once said our church is heretic but now heretic church is stronger and strengthening the "west".
The Roman Catholic instead of spreading the Gospel, is increasing it's territorial jurisdiction by fooling the Eastern Holy Church.
Assyrians are a group of Aramaic-speaking people indigenous to Iraq and Syria. They were the original Mesopotamians. Much later, the Greeks conquered the region until the Arab muslims kicked them out. Assyrians had their own Church tradition. They were evangelized by St. Addai and Mari who were disciples of St. Thadeus. The Assyrian Church originally had the Orthodox faith. However, many of them they were under Persian control and not under the Roman Empire. It is for this reason that the heresy of Nestorius took roots. The Assyrian Church, isolated from the Orthodox communities, gradually accepted Nestorianism. Much later, a group of them returned to Orthodox Christology but by the means of the Papacy in Rome. Many Western costums and practices were adopted. They are now known as "Chaldeans", which is merely another name for the Assyrian people. Most Assyrians are Catholic (about 70%) and the rest of them are Nestorians.
Jerin Mathew What? I don’t really understand your statement. You are in communion with Rome, which means you are Catholic. Which means you have the same theology but expressed in a different way. Are you claiming that the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church is in heresy?
Bao Duong That’s not what he’s saying at all. He’s saying that HIS Church was once considered heretical by Rome, but now his “heretical” Church is getting stronger and strengthening the universal Catholic communion in the West.
هذه كنيسة كلدانية كاثوليكية وقومية آشورية.
مع كل احترام لكلامك ، مهما كنت ، كنيسة كاثوليكية بقومية كلدانيه ، الكلدان موجودين منذ الأزل ، والدليل على ذالك آثار بابل لازالت موجودة لحد اليوم وكذلك بيوت ابونا ابراهيم خليل الله لازال موجود في مدينة الناصرية لحد اليوم ، وكذلك الكتاب المقدس يقول وقد خرج ابراهيم من اور الكلدانيه ويوجد الكثير من الأنبياء الكلدان المذكورين في الكتاب المقدس . واذا كان كلامك صحيح فإن الكتاب المقدس هو كذبه والآثار الموجودة لحد الان كذبه ايضا كي نصدك كلامك ايها العزيز . اطلب من الاخ العزيز احترام القوميات الاخر وبدون الغاء الاخر فنحن كا كلدان واشوريين وسريان قد اتحدنا بعد مجيئ يسوع المسيح فصارت القوميات الثلاثه واحد في المسيح يسوع
الاخ قال بان الكنيسة يحضرون الكلدان والاشوريين بنفس الكنيسة لسماع القداس بسبب الوحدة بين الكنيستين ......
وايضا الامبراطورية الاشورية قديمة لانه تم كتابة اكثر من عشرة اسماء لملوك قبل ان يعرف التاريخ ونحن هنا لسنا في انه من الاقدم اوموغل في القدم ....
@@duraeddendo9055 الكلدان معناهة الفرس بالاكدية. كانو عبارة عن مكون داخل المكونات البقية الاشورية وكانو منجمين لا اكثر ولا اقل. التسمية الكلدانية علة الكنيسة الكلداني اتت في سنة تقريبا 1600+ عندما اعطى بابا روما هذا الاسم للكنيسة الكلدانية لكي لا تتشبه للناس بانها الكنيسة الشرقية القديمة وايضا اعطاها اسم بابل نسبة للنبي ابراهيم من اور. مع العلم الكنيسة الكلدانية مار يوخنا موسس الكنيسة الكلدانية سماها بالاول كنيسة المشرق لنينوى والموصل. القومية اشورية ولاكن التبعية لروما والمذهب كلداني. هذا ملخص كل شي حدث ل 700 عام الفاتت. اني احفزك لان تدرس اكثر عن تاريخ كنيسة المشرق واساس الكنيسة الكلدانية.
This is ASSYRIAN language. Period! End of Story!
Unfortunately they transfer him was best pastor everyone good they did something but will say God forgive them
I remember when Catholics came among Chaldeans and concerted them from church of the East to Catholic using money anyone familiar with fnkaye 😂 this Indian guys is speaking Assyrian eastern accent and not Assyrian Chaldean eastern accent so that means he used to be with church of the East than Chaldean came yo let's make a deal bro we will pay you come to us and the guy wait iaghttt 😂
@polish Lithuanian Commonwealth I did hear this from a Jewish Indian guy and I was talking about Iraq this happened in Iraq not India we are proud of Indian's who speaks our language shame on those assyrians and assyrian Chaldeans who can't speak our Language and good job to you who speaks it tho you not even assyrian but you speaking my language
And why can't you come back to church of the east
You can stop going to Catholic easy go to church of the east tho I don't care I personally don't like Catholic and I don't seem them as Christians we disagree with their laws non of middle Eastern church's agree even if they are Catholic I like orthodox more
@Younan Yaqoob my grandma was Portuguese Catholic "my mom's mother"
I have heard from Christians Indian's saying the same thing how they Burned thier scriptures idk why 🤷🏻♂️
But I don't like Catholic roman and Vatican you already know what they did cuz you are assyrian
How they paied our people go leave church of the east and be Catholic I'm talking about Chaldeans Vatican gave this name for them Chaldean which is Latin word and it's not a nice word cuz they have heard the original word from our old Language which was khashidm Hebrews used to call them that too it means magicians
They divided us into 3 assyrians Chaldeans Syriacs aka arameans fuck is Chaldean fuck is Syriac fuck is aramaic fuck is arameans where did all this come from I wonder why we saying assyrian with s sound and not sh Latin Language and geeks Romans Vatican Persian Arabs Kurds matter of fact Muslims in general even our own brothers Jewish are a big people for our identity past religion native etc
I don't like Catholic at alll I like orthodox more they wayyyy better btw I'm eastern assyrian from nother land Ashur arabelo aka erbil shalam khona
Tbh your brothers (Chaldeans and Syriacs) hates you to death they will never be one never and you know it which is very painful and sooo bad
@Younan Yaqoob tbh with you your Syriac orthodox don't like my church yet Syriacs were part of our church way before Catholic and orthodox exist not just your Bishop's but some of your people really hates us would you call yourself assyrian Syriac? Or western assyrian ? Or just Syriac or aramean ? How do you identify yourself ?
I don't know if Portuguese did anything to Assyrian Church of the east but Catholic hell yeah they divide everyone Indian and China matter of fact Asia used to follow our church now lol Indian's are all Catholic 🤷🏻♂️
Assyrians and western assyrian aka Syriacs plus Chaldeans used to be under this church "church of the east which is the oldest church that was created by mar toma in South Iraq in kukhe
But Chaldeans completely became Catholic they even Left our traditions church traditions Syriacs left they church but they didn't leave the traditions matter of fact orthodox kinda took from our traditions
When Catholic excited Assyrian Church of the east was under Persian empire we were having troubles with them, Syriacs were under Roman empire that's why we became called easterns and westerns I'm eastern assyrian church of the east my great great father's are all from hakkari south turkey
So you are western assyrian orthodox right ?
If yes you can speak our Language I'll understand you
You know we may be divided but we all believe in one Bible and one Jesus one god one baptism
I had some roman Catholics telling me Jesus is not god he's just son of God well from my understanding from bible and my church and middle eastern church's we all believe that Jesus is god
That's why we use this ܝܗܼ̈ܿ in our church flag
@Younan Yaqoob don't dare and call us nestorians that ain't cool at allllll
We do not like to be called that and that's not a church that was a person that Catholics had issues with so they called my church nestorians but our church's name is and was church of the East
And I do but like what my church and what Syriac orthodox and what chaldean Catholic taught you Indian's
Syrian Syriac Surat surath aramiac all these things that I have seen used by Christians Indian's that my church did not tell you about the truth what these means and where did they came from
Nestorian is not a church he was a person and it's a long history behind it full of hate
@Younan Yaqoob idk what's that so I Googled it and this is what it says
The Syro-Malabar Catholic Church or Church of Malabar Syrian Catholics, is an Eastern Catholic Major Archiepiscopal Church based in Kerala, India. Wikipedia
Separation: Marth Mariam Cathedral Church, Chaldean Syrian Church of the East (1870s)
Major Archbishop: George Alencherry
Founder: Thomas the Apostle
Founded: 52 AD
Liturgy: East Syriac Rite; (Liturgy of Addai and Mari)
Headquarters: Ernakulam, India
Chaldean Syrian church that absolutely doesn't make any sense what the hell is that since when do we have that
Christians of Indian are been lied too this is so so so mixed
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