Rupaka Thalam Samam to 2 thalli edupu | Korvais

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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
  • This will be very useful for the budding artist, those who have started singing concerts and also for Mridangam players. This is a new concept in rupaka thalam samam to edam.

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  • @sathreya
    @sathreya 2 роки тому +9

    This is such a beautiful composition that meets arithmetic constraints aesthetically. The basic issue is because of the thalam, the korvai needs to be of the form 12*n+2 (where n is number of avarthanams) and thus indivisible by 3. 12n+2 can be written as 12*(n-1)+14 and 14 can be written as 3+6+5 = 3+6+1+2+2. Thus if the purvangam is of the form 3*(3*(2n+1)) and the uttarangam is 6*(3*(2n+1)) and the karvais are spaced out as 0 in the first iteration 1 in the second and 2 in the third we have
    P1=3*(2*k1+1) U1 = 3*(2*k2+1) (0)
    P2 = 3*(2*k1+1) U2 = 3*(2*k2+1) (1) 3*(2*k2+1)
    P3 = 3*(2*k1+1) U3 = 3*(2*k2+1) (2) 3*(2*k2+1) (2) 3*(2*k2+1)
    When we add all the matras we have 18*k1 +9 + 36*k2 +18 + 5 = 12*1.5*k1 + 12*3*k2 + 12*1.5+14 = 12*1.5*(k1+1) + 12*3*k2 + 14. Thus when k1 is odd and for all values of k2 we have a korvai that will be 2 thalli from samam. In the video k1 is chosen to be 3 thus yielding a purvangam of 3 7s and k2 is varied from 2 to 3 to 4 in the three iterations, yielding 3 5s, 3 7s and 3 9s respectively.
    And speaking of finishing with a flourish, the korvai ends with a neat thisra nadai (gathi bedham) where 3 9s are telescoped in the space of 2 9s in the last iteration.
    Thanks much Balaji sir and to your student for sharing this lovely structure in context. Will look out for this in a concert.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 роки тому +2

      Thankyou very much sir. It's wonderful explanation. Useful for the students .👍

    • @vthyaga
      @vthyaga 2 роки тому +2

      Bale! Fantastic explanation. I found it hard to follow at first because of straight jump to the maths, but I get it now and it's really useful. For those trying to follow along, why starting with (2n+1) format? - 2n+1 just means an odd number. And using it as the base which gives us 5s, 7s and 9s as mentioned at the end.

    • @sumskind
      @sumskind 8 місяців тому

      Just great...literally breaking down to elements..aka...மாத்திரை...well done

  • @karthikv1906
    @karthikv1906 2 місяці тому +3

    Very useful for layman rasikas like me

  • @balakrishnapillai6295
    @balakrishnapillai6295 Місяць тому +1

    A well experienced teacher of all meaning with simple teaching method

  • @VijayantiPappu
    @VijayantiPappu 10 місяців тому +3

    Such a wonderful selection of korvais sir.I loved the experimentation of 7s in the purvaNgam with 5s 7s and 9s.I will attempt this korvai in my next concerts.This is such a useful video that is easy to understand when it comes to korvai constructions.thank you and namaskarams ❤🙏

  • @nadopasana5542
    @nadopasana5542 Рік тому +4

    Excellent explanation useful to both mridangist,nd vocalists also.

  • @sumskind
    @sumskind 8 місяців тому +1

    Your way of imbibing is fantastic and no wonder your disciple is so well versed and has a great range...god bless you

  • @MahaperiyavaSchoolofMridangam
    @MahaperiyavaSchoolofMridangam 2 роки тому +1

    Superb excellent Anna periyava charanam 🙏🙏🙏

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 роки тому

      Thankyou. Maha periyavaa saranam 🙏🏼

  • @sangeethanarayananmusic
    @sangeethanarayananmusic 2 роки тому +2

    Very informative Korvai and clear explanation Sir! Nice singing by Sai Harinni too!

  • @vamsikgp
    @vamsikgp Місяць тому +1

    wonderful .. invaluable lessons!! Thanks for explaining in English also for all of us (saw a non-sense linguist comment, so had to balance it)

  • @Balakrishnan-sq1vo
    @Balakrishnan-sq1vo Рік тому +1

    Excellent setup, what a beautifu butl simple calculations, Super RamRamRam

  • @vedavidhyasamithi4572
    @vedavidhyasamithi4572 2 роки тому +1

    Hearty Wishes to Shri Melakaveri Balaji for descending to our level and sgaring his great experience. The knowledge of Layam will improve us to sing confidently. Great Seva. Pl continue. We will be able to appreciate Thani Avarthanas better.. sai premi

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 роки тому

      Thankyou. Sure I will .

    • @vedavidhyasamithi4572
      @vedavidhyasamithi4572 2 роки тому +1

      @@melakaveri
      For the present,keep your lectures for beginners to appreciate Layam better.
      The sruthi and sahithyam aspects ,many understand..Layham is very important
      For classical music.A new gate has been opened ! Gratitude.
      Balakrishna

  • @s.rengamannarkesavan360
    @s.rengamannarkesavan360 2 роки тому +1

    Very great sir. Super. Namaskaram🙏

  • @prakashkoorpaad6748
    @prakashkoorpaad6748 2 роки тому +1

    It.is to me.a personal teaching I am greatful to you gurugale Namaskaragalu

  • @kalaimamanimeerasivaramakr4074

    Very informative...I have written down the korvais...thank you Balaji. Your student also sang very well

  • @sunithaiyer9154
    @sunithaiyer9154 2 роки тому +1

    Really sooperb..may god bless you all🙏👏

  • @swarataranginiinternationa7572
    @swarataranginiinternationa7572 2 роки тому +2

    I am unable to follow the language as I am a Telugu speaking person. Still, I am able to follow the concept clearly. And obviously, it is very useful to me. thank you very much both guruji and the disciple.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 роки тому

      Thankyou. I will speak fully in English from next time.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  2 роки тому +1

      I spoke mostly in English.

    • @swarataranginiinternationa7572
      @swarataranginiinternationa7572 2 роки тому +1

      Yes sir. You spoke in English mostly, and it is usefull. Dhanyavaadamulu

  • @bpharibabu
    @bpharibabu 2 роки тому +1

    explained and rendered well sir

  • @Munuswamymusic
    @Munuswamymusic Місяць тому +1

    ❤ you sir

  • @UmaRamuAyyar
    @UmaRamuAyyar 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful Sir!

  • @ravikrishnanghatam8608
    @ravikrishnanghatam8608 Рік тому +1

    Excellent Balaji.

  • @annapooranik1967
    @annapooranik1967 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful excellent

  • @Basuvi1
    @Basuvi1 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent 🌹

  • @NerkunamMusicFamily
    @NerkunamMusicFamily 2 роки тому +1

    Super anna

  • @karunakaranthashanan7200
    @karunakaranthashanan7200 Рік тому +1

    Super nice sir

  • @TiruchengodeGvParthiban
    @TiruchengodeGvParthiban 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice 👍🏻

  • @muse4297
    @muse4297 3 місяці тому +1

    Wonderful

  • @harishsubramanian6490
    @harishsubramanian6490 2 роки тому +1

    Well rendered sir

  • @bharathk9594
    @bharathk9594 2 роки тому +1

    Superb Sir

  • @raghavanparthasarathyparth1785
    @raghavanparthasarathyparth1785 10 місяців тому

    It is so useful for all musicians

  • @sugumarsairam6007
    @sugumarsairam6007 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent sairam

  • @chandramohan502
    @chandramohan502 2 роки тому +1

    மிகவும் நன்றி ஐயா

  • @N.K.K.K.N
    @N.K.K.K.N Рік тому +1

    Super sir

  • @janakiravisveena4590
    @janakiravisveena4590 11 місяців тому +1

    Very nice explanation

  • @venram2010
    @venram2010 Рік тому +1

    Excellent!

  • @Tamijarassane
    @Tamijarassane Рік тому +1

    Very very nice

  • @venky1973
    @venky1973 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice

  • @mukundbharadwajL
    @mukundbharadwajL 2 роки тому +1

    sir can you post similar ideas for adi talam?
    the videos are very useful.thankyou

  • @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62
    @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62 Рік тому +1

    Superb.
    Sir last round of kharaharapriya what did u do?

  • @meenashankar1
    @meenashankar1 8 місяців тому +1

    11:47 dear sir,although i didn't know carnatic music but i liked it very much pl.let me know is it like hindustani taal Rupak where we hv.7 beats ttin thina dina dhina,also i wld love to learn carnatic mudic theory n practical cld u please guide how can i learn ,wld u kindly teach me online?

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  8 місяців тому

      Yes I can teach online.

  • @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62
    @MYTHILIKRISHNAN62 Рік тому +1

    Sir what did u do in the fast one in kharaharapriya

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  Рік тому

      What we are singing is the chatusram madhya makalam only.

  • @purushotmennaidoo
    @purushotmennaidoo Місяць тому +1

    It saddens the audience deeply when such musical maestros tend to resort using English, not realising that it is from the ancient Thamil that their knowledge springs from. In the international arena affirm the sanctity and mystery of the profound Thamil please. Other races are proud of their language unlike Thamilians particularly the learned Bramins.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  Місяць тому

      Thankyou for your information 💐

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  Місяць тому +4

      I am going to present my videos in English only. This is for the Musicians all over the world.
      Music has No Language Barriers.
      Don't interpret this towards Race, Language and Religion.
      This is I am doing as a service to the Music Rasikas and Young Budding Artistes without any caste, creed or Religion

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  Місяць тому +2

      If possible share the knowledge you have regarding the Carnatic Music or any field .That will be Very Good for the Society around you. Don't waste your time like this.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  Місяць тому

      Particularly I spoke most of the time in Thamizh(it should be pronounced like this) in this video.

    • @melakaveri
      @melakaveri  Місяць тому

      Not as you mentioned as Thamil