Yes he did, man, and you know why? Cause Rust in Peace is a thrash metal album, therefore it's completely true, cause Black Sabbath has never done any thrash metal album and never will.
Before Dave there were so many other metal bands who were the forefathers creating the most ferocious badass riffs. Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Led Zep, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, plus the punk bands that influenced him, so your.statement isn't very credible. When were you fucking born...in 1999??
Most of these isolated metal tracks really sound thin without bass. Pantera songs are the best example of this. Rex Brown is half the heaviness of Pantera
He's the fake one, wtf. ANd I kicked him out becasue he was getting more into k-pop and Risk was the furthest I could ever go and I told him "I can't go any further, Marty, I am sorry".
2:09 Something strangely endearing hearing them get ready for the next bit. Sometimes you can forget a real person is playing these tracks (even if you obviously *know* someone is playing them, you often forget in a way)
Dave said in his book, that he would track a left and right, to keep a tight and same tone level of heavy, and add (in this case, Marty) down the middle to create a sort of "layering". He started that with jeff young, since his tone gave a sort of spark that was needed in the Rhythm portion of the songs.
Eh this isn't sloppy at all. Off course full band sounds tighter because drums providing the punch and bass guitar tying them together while providing fullness to overall sound.
It's double track. It's a recording technique that makes the guitars sound fuller. To my knowledge it's triple tracking here. (Guitar recorded 3 times separately then panned to give it a massive feel)
It's a complete mystery to me why anyone would ever pick Metallica over Megadeth. Light years ahead in musicianship. Metallica is merely adequate while Megadeth excels.
Well I love both bands but I prefer Metallica. I don't know why I do. It just resonates with me a little more than Megadeth as much as I love Megadeth.
Metallica has a more mainstream sound (slow, clean, kinda chill by metal standards) which most people can easily listen to while Megadeth's fast, sort of "dirty" sound makes it hard for some listeners to really enjoy, but yeah, in terms of technical ability and musicianship, Megadeth beats Metallica, though I equally like them both.
D. Dixon. Musicianship lmao Metallica have just as great musicianship. Technicality does not make something better. Why do I always see someone bringing up the Metallica vs megadeth shit only on videos relating to megadeth? Seriously shut the fuck up and let people listen to what they want
D. Dixon lamo go listen to risk and motospycho you dip shit, I’ll be sitting over hear listening to one of the 4 best metal albums of all time , you can go listen to shitty filler songs with someone’s that sounds like they are constipated. Lol! your pathetic, seriously don’t even bother with this argument you will lose facts don’t lie. Metallica is the better band and always will be, I love megadeth just as much, but Metallica did more to the metal genre then megadeth ever would and hoped for. Megadeth maybe be a technicality superior band but that does not mean SHIT. it’s like saying iron maiden is better then pink floyd because they are faster. Metallica is the heavier band anyway that’s what I look for in my music. it’s actually funny that you can’t even appreciate another band as godly as Metallica because your so one minded, BAHA anyway have fun listening to your two good albums 🤣 . PS say hi to your sister for me
Wrong asshole. James doesnt record just 2 rythm guitars and this is not even close to tight as James riffing on puppets and albums after that. This is not tight at all. The rythm guitar here is a bit sloppy.
@@Penisdoll You're crazy if you think James' riffing on Puppets is tighter or cleaner than this one. There is no Hetfield song that contains rhythm parts LIKE this one ( Scaled riffs, fast muted chord progressions, tritone chords, lots of key centre transitions ), so its obvious it would SOUND different in isolation compared to MoP's guitar tracks. The playing itself is hardly sloppy. Also, "Just two" ?? RIP has *6* guitar layers recorded ( 2 Dave on the sides, 1 Marty in the centre, repeated twice ) making its sound a lot rougher around the edges and overall denser, ideal for a very guitar harmony oriented album. MoP's guitar *tone* ( not the rhythmic mix, but just the tone setting ) itself sounds very generic, hardly unique or identifiable. Always loved the extra punch and bite that an elegant Rust In Peace power chord packs.
@@sainandanramakrishnan4812 Use your ears. This is not tighter than Puppets guitar track. Puppets rythm guitar track is pretty much flawless but this is not! I can personally record a tighter guitar track than this cause I can hear many places where it is not perfect. These rythm guitars sounds like they are recorded by two guys and it is impossible for two guys to record a tighter rythm track than one guy dong it by himself.. "MoP's guitar tone ( not the rhythmic mix, but just the tone setting ) itself sounds very generic, hardly unique or identifiable.". Okey. "Very generic, hardly unique or identifiable". Then you should be able to give me a couple of links to a lot of different albums pre 86 that Metallica copied their Puppets sound from. If you think that RIP has a better tone than Puppets I hope you are not a studio producer. RIP rythm tone sounds as bad as a Amp simulator sounds.
@@Penisdoll When you have 6 guitars playing, there are obviously going to be a few off-sync sounds ( also coming from the fact that both Mustaine and Marty harmonize rhythms within each set of 3 guitars, unlike Metallica where James only plays one master track and its just overdubbed with Kirk only playing rhythm live ). As I said, the playing itself is far from sloppy or else every single time you hear the riffs it would sound differently nuanced. What I really care about is the tone of a single player's guitar when isolated from the mix and the kind of stuff that is played, for both of which I would prefer RIP and Ride The Lightning over MoP. MoP's guitar tone is an uninteresting mixture of Anthrax - Spreading The Disease and a very NWOBHM Maiden / Sabbath crunch. Unlike Ride The Lightning's tone which just screams thrash, or Rust In Peace's extremely unique, condensed tone ideal for some nasty speed metal riffs, MoP never really stood out for me. Just go and play sliding rhythms with RTL tone and fast power chords and arpeggiated rhythms with RIP and tell me they just aren't the perfect sounds for that, the only thing the MoP tone accentuates is down-picking.
Those tracks were recorded back when humans actually HAD to play the whole song. That's why it's not completely synchronized. I praise that kind of work over today's standards any day. The way things are done in the modern process should be called "sloppy" instead, because everything is done through copy & paste. Musicians are lazy now.
Not after symphothy or anything but I have a dyspraxia that really effects my hand and eye co ordination so playing fast is extremely difficult , but always wanted to learn this , it's taken me a month but I'm 1 minute in 😁 it'll probably take me a year to do the solo 😂just wanted to write to to say anyone can play this with patience :)
Tu vienes solo para el 3:09
Si jajajajajaja
jeje y quien no?
Yup?
No español
Sergio Andres komo lo zuppo? :v
Dave create all the best riffs in metal history and put them in Rust in peace
Yes he did, man, and you know why? Cause Rust in Peace is a thrash metal album, therefore it's completely true, cause Black Sabbath has never done any thrash metal album and never will.
lets not disrespect Sabbath, They are a gold standard. Mustaine top 10 metal players ever.
not all of them, but a lot of them
Before Dave there were so many other metal bands who were the forefathers creating the most ferocious badass riffs. Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Led Zep, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, plus the punk bands that influenced him, so your.statement isn't very credible. When were you fucking born...in 1999??
@@Dewitt-b8n FYI-- Tony Iommi(Black Sabbath) is a HUGE Influence on Dave. Lau off the fucking crack, ok??
This really makes you realise how bare the guitars sound without bass
Peter Griffin & drums, & vocals. Oh wait...
Most of these isolated metal tracks really sound thin without bass. Pantera songs are the best example of this. Rex Brown is half the heaviness of Pantera
Just listen to And Justice for All, for more evidence. :D
Fuck bass.
@@drevnbydemonsify ok gamer
Great solo.
then why did u fire marty
Marty left
He's the fake one, wtf. ANd I kicked him out becasue he was getting more into k-pop and Risk was the furthest I could ever go and I told him "I can't go any further, Marty, I am sorry".
Dave Mustaine you're the fake one too 👁👅👁
@@user-iq2oq8ol6z he wanted to be a weeaboo
2:09 Something strangely endearing hearing them get ready for the next bit. Sometimes you can forget a real person is playing these tracks (even if you obviously *know* someone is playing them, you often forget in a way)
I think it's because all of the bits cut out in between. All the string noise, fret buzz, squeeks, etc.
I think that's the sound of the drums, just very quiet. If you really focus, i think you'll recognise the drum fill
@@melonman8433nah definitely the sound of their hands resting on the guitars
It's there on the record also, you just don't notice.
@@melonman8433thought you were capping, but youre actually right, it is the drumfill
4:08 best fucking riff ever created
mustaine is a genius
And marty is a gem
Now imagine playing this and singing at the same time.
litteraly a brain hellbringer
Incredible restraint with the spaces and palm mutes in the riffs… true rhythm gods
Best riff, best solo, best song
This will forever be the most beautiful thing I will ever get to hear in my life. Thank you Megadeth.
Perfect, with or without other instruments...
predivno!
Slažem se! =)
The off-sync gives the same appeal that Kill Em All gives, makes it dirty but also makes it shine like a duet.
i love how they record it on multiple tracks
Almost every song is made this way 🤡
Double tracked and triple tracked at some intervals
3:07
best of the best at their best
love those guitar trak !
Best solo on this track by far
What. a. solo!
Greatness❤
Perfection
Yeah dude HOW did u get that?!? That's awesome
Which side is Marty and which side is Dave?
I'm pretty sure Dave does two tracks, one left and one right. Marty does one down the centre.
This but twice. Total of six guitars
Dave's left. Marty right
there is definitely 2 ppl playing...it isnt tight enough in some places
Dave said in his book, that he would track a left and right, to keep a tight and same tone level of heavy, and add (in this case, Marty) down the middle to create a sort of "layering". He started that with jeff young, since his tone gave a sort of spark that was needed in the Rhythm portion of the songs.
1:30
I love RiP but I'm always sort of shocked at how sloppy the rhythm guitars are when you hear them in isolation.
I think it is more because of 'Sag' produced by Marshall amps. Or it also just because they are mixed slightly out of sync
whats wrong with them it doesnt sound that bad to me
Eh this isn't sloppy at all.
Off course full band sounds tighter because drums providing the punch and bass guitar tying them together while providing fullness to overall sound.
You're crazy!
What???
4:29 best riff in this song
😍😍😍😍
omg thank U \m/
I just cant get over 0:44
Solo 3:09
Anyone else notice a subtle guitar effect he has?
I think its just the tracks being ever so slightly out of sync.
no effect, just that the 2 guitar tracks aren't perfectly together. I guess that's an effect in it of itself, but I doubt it was intentional.
It's double track. It's a recording technique that makes the guitars sound fuller. To my knowledge it's triple tracking here. (Guitar recorded 3 times separately then panned to give it a massive feel)
it has a bit of reverb
is there a tiny bit of chorus in their tone?
Does anyone else hear Chorus on the rhythm tone?
Actiually its happening beacise of 5 tracks
It's a complete mystery to me why anyone would ever pick Metallica over Megadeth. Light years ahead in musicianship. Metallica is merely adequate while Megadeth excels.
Well I love both bands but I prefer Metallica. I don't know why I do. It just resonates with me a little more than Megadeth as much as I love Megadeth.
Metallica has a more mainstream sound (slow, clean, kinda chill by metal standards) which most people can easily listen to while Megadeth's fast, sort of "dirty" sound makes it hard for some listeners to really enjoy, but yeah, in terms of technical ability and musicianship, Megadeth beats Metallica, though I equally like them both.
D. Dixon. Musicianship lmao Metallica have just as great musicianship. Technicality does not make something better. Why do I always see someone bringing up the Metallica vs megadeth shit only on videos relating to megadeth? Seriously shut the fuck up and let people listen to what they want
@@oldmatevb eat shit poser. You know damn well megadeth is far better. Btw go fuck yourself.
D. Dixon lamo go listen to risk and motospycho you dip shit, I’ll be sitting over hear listening to one of the 4 best metal albums of all time , you can go listen to shitty filler songs with someone’s that sounds like they are constipated. Lol! your pathetic, seriously don’t even bother with this argument you will lose facts don’t lie. Metallica is the better band and always will be, I love megadeth just as much, but Metallica did more to the metal genre then megadeth ever would and hoped for. Megadeth maybe be a technicality superior band but that does not mean SHIT. it’s like saying iron maiden is better then pink floyd because they are faster. Metallica is the heavier band anyway that’s what I look for in my music. it’s actually funny that you can’t even appreciate another band as godly as Metallica because your so one minded, BAHA anyway have fun listening to your two good albums 🤣 . PS say hi to your sister for me
Better with vocals
sorry man i gotta disagree w you there 😭
6 unlikes by 3 Hetfield's and 3 Kirk's fake accccc.
Wrong asshole. James doesnt record just 2 rythm guitars and this is not even close to tight as James riffing on puppets and albums after that. This is not tight at all. The rythm guitar here is a bit sloppy.
@@Penisdoll You're crazy if you think James' riffing on Puppets is tighter or cleaner than this one. There is no Hetfield song that contains rhythm parts LIKE this one ( Scaled riffs, fast muted chord progressions, tritone chords, lots of key centre transitions ), so its obvious it would SOUND different in isolation compared to MoP's guitar tracks. The playing itself is hardly sloppy.
Also, "Just two" ?? RIP has *6* guitar layers recorded ( 2 Dave on the sides, 1 Marty in the centre, repeated twice ) making its sound a lot rougher around the edges and overall denser, ideal for a very guitar harmony oriented album. MoP's guitar *tone* ( not the rhythmic mix, but just the tone setting ) itself sounds very generic, hardly unique or identifiable. Always loved the extra punch and bite that an elegant Rust In Peace power chord packs.
@@sainandanramakrishnan4812 Use your ears. This is not tighter than Puppets guitar track. Puppets rythm guitar track is pretty much flawless but this is not! I can personally record a tighter guitar track than this cause I can hear many places where it is not perfect.
These rythm guitars sounds like they are recorded by two guys and it is impossible for two guys to record a tighter rythm track than one guy dong it by himself..
"MoP's guitar tone ( not the rhythmic mix, but just the tone setting ) itself sounds very generic, hardly unique or identifiable.".
Okey. "Very generic, hardly unique or identifiable".
Then you should be able to give me a couple of links to a lot of different albums pre 86 that Metallica copied their Puppets sound from.
If you think that RIP has a better tone than Puppets I hope you are not a studio producer. RIP rythm tone sounds as bad as a Amp simulator sounds.
This is VERY Fizzy sounding guitars. I dont know who mixed it. But he did a bad job.
@@Penisdoll
When you have 6 guitars playing, there are obviously going to be a few off-sync sounds ( also coming from the fact that both Mustaine and Marty harmonize rhythms within each set of 3 guitars, unlike Metallica where James only plays one master track and its just overdubbed with Kirk only playing rhythm live ). As I said, the playing itself is far from sloppy or else every single time you hear the riffs it would sound differently nuanced.
What I really care about is the tone of a single player's guitar when isolated from the mix and the kind of stuff that is played, for both of which I would prefer RIP and Ride The Lightning over MoP. MoP's guitar tone is an uninteresting mixture of Anthrax - Spreading The Disease and a very NWOBHM Maiden / Sabbath crunch. Unlike Ride The Lightning's tone which just screams thrash, or Rust In Peace's extremely unique, condensed tone ideal for some nasty speed metal riffs, MoP never really stood out for me. Just go and play sliding rhythms with RTL tone and fast power chords and arpeggiated rhythms with RIP and tell me they just aren't the perfect sounds for that, the only thing the MoP tone accentuates is down-picking.
I can't get over how sloppy this guitarwork is. Sure the riffs are great but the two guitars not being in complete sync kinda ruins it for me.
Impossible to play totally in sync without studio magic
Those tracks were recorded back when humans actually HAD to play the whole song.
That's why it's not completely synchronized.
I praise that kind of work over today's standards any day. The way things are done in the modern process should be called "sloppy" instead, because everything is done through copy & paste.
Musicians are lazy now.
@@gustavomarques4097 I honestly think that's one reason why modern metal really lacks the feel and flavor of older stuff like Rust in Peace.
Wtf are you even talking about, it's called multitracking
If you need to listen to the isolated tracks to hear how sloppy they are, they aren't sloppy. It sounds fine in the mix and that's all that matters.
Not after symphothy or anything but I have a dyspraxia that really effects my hand and eye co ordination so playing fast is extremely difficult , but always wanted to learn this , it's taken me a month but I'm 1 minute in 😁 it'll probably take me a year to do the solo 😂just wanted to write to to say anyone can play this with patience :)
did you get the solo down?
i have dyspraxia myself luckily guitar is the only thing it dosnt effect
@@eliteagent401 not yet, stopped playing guitar for a while, I'll get it soon though :) thanks for asking :)
@@jameseddolls ah good :)
@@lukejones5053 how bout now
0:09
Best riff & solo of this album...
holy wars better riff
all the album is perfect
@@RudyAyoub dude nice to see you here! Lol
@@RudyAyoub I like your videos btw nice and funny work :D
Polaris riffs
goodness marty friedman's rhythm playing is sloppy, good thing Dave is on top of the mix and there's bass to tighten it up in the actual song
What a riff... So heavy
3:10
3:09
0:17 Intro
Hmm…I always that that bass was a guitar.
my favourite part was allways 4:27
1:28 1:29
2:10
Is this Dave's actual recorded track for the album?