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  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue 6 років тому +742

    LOL I've always thought the image of steam filled dark alleys of NYC in movies were special effects.

    • @chillchillpill
      @chillchillpill 6 років тому +34

      Me too, actually! Like in the Blade Runner movies.

    • @Stargate-over-starwars
      @Stargate-over-starwars 6 років тому +13

      It's cool at night

    • @thecitizenjoan
      @thecitizenjoan 5 років тому +25

      When you visit NYC one day you’ll see its real, you feel like you’re in a film sometimes until you pass people arguing at each other on the sidewalk and cab drivers fighting (I’ve witnessed both)

    • @x--.
      @x--. 5 років тому +5

      The alleys are, not the steam.

    • @asmodeusasteroth7137
      @asmodeusasteroth7137 4 роки тому

      In movies yes but many cities were based with steam
      It was easier then to heat
      Imagine if everyone need to store their firewood or coal

  • @gmarshnyc
    @gmarshnyc 9 років тому +897

    Born and raised in NYC and never knew why steam rose from underground.

    • @KevinHarper3DArtist
      @KevinHarper3DArtist 7 років тому +91

      Same, I always thought it was poop air from the sewer...

    • @sumitshresth
      @sumitshresth 7 років тому +37

      yeah nvr understood those steam.untill bow i used to think they are exhaust for subway heating

    • @roberto125919
      @roberto125919 6 років тому +39

      HEY IM WALKIN' OVA HEEEEERRRR

    • @ZeitGeist_TV
      @ZeitGeist_TV 6 років тому +15

      Garner Marshall I know this is old ASF but it's the same for me. Gotta love this City and State in it's totality. I recommend my City dwellers check out N.Y State in it's entirety. Beautiful to drive upstate in Spring and Fall.

    • @idzkk
      @idzkk 6 років тому +4

      I live faraway 10s of 1000s miles from New York city but we were introduced to NYC by comics and media 9/11 ofcourse and i always used to wonder even while playing GTA 4 why steam comes out of drains finally convinced myself that hot bathers in skyscrapers might have causing it😂

  • @seagull2000
    @seagull2000 8 років тому +290

    I didn't know what those steam vents were for until now, and I've been living in NYC for over 40 years!

    • @krashd
      @krashd 5 років тому

      Authorities in NYC are told to inform anyone that asks that it is the subway, although every major city has a subway and theirs doesn't release steam :D

  • @AChocolateMiniroll
    @AChocolateMiniroll 9 років тому +680

    We love you gaben, thanks for steam.

    • @erictaylor2183
      @erictaylor2183 8 років тому +14

      lol

    • @Liam-Carlson
      @Liam-Carlson 7 років тому +7

      Haha

    • @jessicanoory2856
      @jessicanoory2856 6 років тому +10

      I dont like how they failed to mention Gaben

    • @DedCorp
      @DedCorp 6 років тому +2

      Miniroll lol

    • @oskar2219
      @oskar2219 5 років тому +1

      Gaben didnt invent steam, are u stupid. Steam is water at high temprature. You need to do read some books fool.

  • @airguntherapy8665
    @airguntherapy8665 6 років тому +110

    As a kid (from England) I watched so many movies filmed in New York. I'd ask family, friends, "Why is steam coming up through the streets?"
    Never got an answer...........until now. I thought it was just to create a scary atmosphere or something, like "I hear footsteps, what's beyond the steam?!"

    • @Cola64
      @Cola64 4 роки тому

      Airgun Therapy Fred Dibnah wouldve known 🤙🏻

    • @kevinesquivel9823
      @kevinesquivel9823 4 роки тому +1

      Sooo most of the films and shows you watched growing up most likely did not get filmed on location not sure if u new that, they were most likely filem in southern California specifically los angels, so they were movie props but still NYC is weird like that cant explain it I'm from LA myself so it's weird to see steam coming out of the streets never happens here

    • @Anonymous18531
      @Anonymous18531 3 роки тому

      The irony is that it's to avoid having chimneys on the rooftops like you do in your part of the world. It was intended as a direct response to methods of urban heating in the Old World.

  • @Barskor1
    @Barskor1 6 років тому +244

    Now if you bothered to properly insulate buildings the heating cooling costs could drop by 80%

    • @schrempskynate8944
      @schrempskynate8944 6 років тому +31

      Good point, a lot of those older buildings probably have newspaper insulation.

    • @ej_tech
      @ej_tech 5 років тому +16

      We stayed in a friend's apartment in Brooklyn. The glass windows are not double plane like our apartment upstate.

    • @leonst99
      @leonst99 5 років тому +36

      @@ej_tech Does the US really still use single glass windows? In Germany triple glas is standard since more than 20 years and double glass is the lowest standard even in buildings not renovated for 50 years...

    • @samin90
      @samin90 5 років тому +18

      @@leonst99 Some of these buildings are well over 100 years old

    • @leonst99
      @leonst99 5 років тому +7

      @@samin90 ee are having houses that are hundreds ore sometimes over 1000 years old an they are well insulated, that's not a problem.

  • @DazeDream
    @DazeDream 5 років тому +54

    This explains SO MUCH about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!

  • @phuturephunk
    @phuturephunk 6 років тому +13

    I love the fact that Steve loves steam. He's so excited to explain how it's all going down! I respect that.

  • @richschindler8731
    @richschindler8731 7 років тому +48

    Great video. As a retired Local 94 operating engineer I’ve worked with steam my entire career.

    • @seanhicks8538
      @seanhicks8538 5 років тому +1

      local 94 doesn't deal with steam local 30 does

    • @funnybunnymomoney388
      @funnybunnymomoney388 5 років тому +2

      local 94 huh, so you sat on your @ss for 20+ years until retirement.

    • @dadjake
      @dadjake 4 роки тому

      Is there still asbestos in the steam pipes?

    • @VAI1997
      @VAI1997 2 роки тому

      @@seanhicks8538 not true where did you hear that, Local 94 works w steam on a daily basis even if you don’t have a dual ticket

  • @Luboman411
    @Luboman411 7 років тому +197

    Fascinating. I did not know that steam was so integral to this city. Though I don't appreciate that they didn't explain what ConEd burns to gain the steam. Natural gas? Coal? Oil? Steam just doesn't magically appear out of the ground (unless you live on volcanic islands, like Iceland or Japan). And where are those emissions expelled? Near our neighborhoods? I would've liked to have known that tidbit.

    • @ClicketyClack
      @ClicketyClack 7 років тому +62

      The steam is made from waste heat in ConEd's electric cogeneration plants.

    • @techblogger8323
      @techblogger8323 6 років тому +13

      n0ckter yeah that’s what I was thinking wouldn’t it be far more efficient to generate steam on site but I understand it’s a by product

    • @miles2378
      @miles2378 6 років тому +28

      Tech Blogger ConEd uses wast heat from a power plant to make steam if they did not use that heat to make steam than ConEd would need large amounts of water to cool which would be river water or the city's own water supply going to a evaporative cooling tower and lost to the air.

    • @farmerkevin
      @farmerkevin 6 років тому +2

      Natural Gas.

    • @schrempskynate8944
      @schrempskynate8944 6 років тому +21

      @@farmerkevin - Yep, the natural gas powers a jet engine, the jet turns an electric generator, meanwhile the waste heat from the jet engine powers a boiler, the boiler can then either power a steam turbine that's attached to another generator, and the steam from that is used to heat buildings, or the turbine can be bypassed for repairs if need be.

  • @bartpaaddiator2747
    @bartpaaddiator2747 9 років тому +71

    I am disappointed to see no mention of the vintage co-generation plants at Pratt University, which is a great example of how the technology NYU people mentioned was already utilized years ago. The Pratt plant is simply beautiful with its Victorian aesthetic.

    • @seanclancy2587
      @seanclancy2587 6 років тому +2

      Maybe because this is a video about the NYC Steam system and the Pratt plant is in Maryland? Cool wiki article so I'm glad you mentioned it lol.

    • @ckm-mkc
      @ckm-mkc 5 років тому +5

      @@seanclancy2587 I think @bartpa was referring to the Pratt Institute, which is in Brooklyn - www.atlasobscura.com/places/pratt-institute-engine-room

  • @vscid
    @vscid 9 років тому +19

    lovely video. And all this time I wondered about the mysterious steam from NYC streets. Great work NYT

  • @MMID303
    @MMID303 6 років тому +17

    Surprised how many people didn't know this. I don't live in the city and I still knew about it. I've been to Washington DC and they have steam also. I've seen it rising from vents in the streets. It is however old and aging technology. It's only kept because it would be impossible to replace the entire system at this stage. NYC is too built up to replace hundreds of miles of steam piping.

    • @adamkendall997
      @adamkendall997 5 років тому +2

      A lot of people don't know a lot about a lot of things. And then they go and vote for AOC because she promotes inventing things that haven't been invented yet.

    • @NatureShy
      @NatureShy 4 роки тому

      @@adamkendall997 AOC needs to run for president.

  • @marshalljimduncan
    @marshalljimduncan 5 років тому +14

    pressurized steam is no joke, folks, and it is also extremely corrosive...

    • @stephenrowley4171
      @stephenrowley4171 5 років тому +7

      Everyone thinks of steam as the stuff you get out of your kettle it's, wet and will hurt you. But dry steam is another beast all together you can't see it and it will cut you half.

  • @iyquc
    @iyquc 10 років тому +27

    If this were posted on April 1, I'd think it was an April Fools Joke. Cool stuff; thanks for creating this and posting it! I guess I was unwittingly imagining the 'bizarro' universe the last guy mentioned, b/c I am shocked that this is a huge part of New York City.

  • @Tim7400
    @Tim7400 5 років тому +1

    Very clever installation. Much more effective than every building having its own heating.
    Every city in Denmark over 10.000 people or so have district heating using water instead of steam.
    Getting it from burning our non recyclable rubbish makes the heating fairly cheap and saves us from dumps

  • @GregMuender
    @GregMuender 10 років тому +16

    I love this series!!!!!! Keep up the good work NYT. :)

  • @thecitizenjoan
    @thecitizenjoan 6 років тому +6

    Steam is what is part of Makes NYC so Cinematic especially at night

  • @LastOfTheMaguas
    @LastOfTheMaguas 6 років тому +76

    Long ago they decided to go this route to enhance New Yorker's self esteam.

  • @sebastianmuller1210
    @sebastianmuller1210 5 років тому +27

    Feels like it stopped in the middle of the story.

    • @cerebralm
      @cerebralm 5 років тому +2

      the story doesn't have an ending :)

  • @dmfraser1444
    @dmfraser1444 6 років тому +2

    I have been to NYC many times since 1979 and here in 2018 this totally new to me. Wow!.

  • @qCata
    @qCata 10 років тому +15

    im not american but videos like this make me proud that im a steamfitter by trade.

  • @TheNormanmurk
    @TheNormanmurk 5 років тому +3

    Everytime I went to the city I always wondered why those steam pipes were there. I just thought they were heating the lines underground or just letting off extra steam. I still dont get why it just runs out like that and it isn't in a line concentrated. Why would it leak? Pressure relief?

  • @SparkWater
    @SparkWater 9 років тому +69

    All built by 638 steamfitter labor!!

    • @commodoresixfour7478
      @commodoresixfour7478 7 років тому +4

      Is it a pretty good union or is it garbage like most? I'm all for unions if they actually protect the worker and their job. Its hard for me to blindly trust any Union or Employer.

    • @phuturephunk
      @phuturephunk 6 років тому

      Labor is pretty solid here, so those guys due to their skills do well and are protected well.

  • @963hz
    @963hz 3 роки тому

    Fascinating video. Many thanks 🙏🏼

  • @EduardoSalazar-gd5ij
    @EduardoSalazar-gd5ij Рік тому

    As a steam fitter from California this is very cool. Its very impressive.

  • @derFagottistZockt
    @derFagottistZockt 5 років тому

    What an amazing system! Props to all the engineers and people inventing and working at it

  • @boby115
    @boby115 5 років тому

    Just an FYI to Con Edison, never install a polyethylene plastic gas main or service in the same area as a steam loop line. We unknowingly installed one in St Louis, Mo & the main melted as soon as a steamline developed a leak in the same proximity of the gas main. Fortunately nothing happened ( we were lucky ). I can assure you that polyethylene Main was switched over to a coated steel Main in a record time.

  • @LuisRodriguez-ry8oy
    @LuisRodriguez-ry8oy 4 роки тому +3

    100 years from now generations will look into this and say this system it's ridiculously outdated and inefficient.

  • @MrKillroy26
    @MrKillroy26 5 років тому +6

    Always wondered why steam would come from underground in NY.

  • @advancetotabletop5328
    @advancetotabletop5328 2 роки тому

    So like steampunk without the corsets. Thanks for the video!

  • @ImVeryBrad
    @ImVeryBrad 6 років тому +6

    My grandpa is 92 and he always goes on about how steam is far superior to so many other options

  • @TheSeanUhTron
    @TheSeanUhTron 5 років тому +2

    I had no idea there was such a thing as underground steam pipes for this purpose.

  • @toddt6730
    @toddt6730 6 років тому +1

    Keep these videos coming

  • @sonnypruitt6639
    @sonnypruitt6639 4 роки тому

    This really steams me up!!!

  • @ajsky1066
    @ajsky1066 5 років тому

    Used to always wonder why. Was asking my Dad 6 months back about why New York has steam coming out of the roads. Now youtube recommends it. Better late than never!

  • @spacewalker9375
    @spacewalker9375 7 років тому +7

    Wait so does New York have a bunch of small generators all around the city?

    • @schrempskynate8944
      @schrempskynate8944 6 років тому +6

      Yeah, it has small co gen units instead of running steam for miles and miles creating waterhammer they can have smaller runs and don't have to heat the steam as much.

  • @leoromanovsky
    @leoromanovsky 10 років тому +8

    This is a great series on NY, thanks *****

  • @mjribes
    @mjribes 6 років тому +1

    I had never heard of a citywide steam system. Where else do they use these?

  •  6 років тому +1

    This is awesome!

  • @Gnarlodious
    @Gnarlodious 9 років тому +18

    AKA "New York Geyser".

  • @spacemonkeyman
    @spacemonkeyman 10 років тому +139

    Free energy? ! Not really. What do you burn to produce the heat for the steam or where does the electricity come from. Pure steam powerplants is sad to say only on Iceland.

    • @misium
      @misium 7 років тому +11

      DeadGoldBass, I object to you saying "They also eject a bit of co2 but that's almost nothing".
      Burning wood is oxidizing coal, and the end product is always CO2, there is no escaping that. The cleaner the burn the more CO2 is produced (and less CO). There is no way to lower CO2 emissions from burning wood, unless you capture and confine it, which is not happening.
      To stay carbon neutral your only hope is to burn wood that came from recently (less than 50 years) planted trees, and not ancient rain forest or redwood.

    • @Mira_linn
      @Mira_linn 7 років тому +20

      W N most poweplants today reuse the steam to preheat the water used by the poweplant

    • @deceiver123m
      @deceiver123m 7 років тому +1

      misium so ur saying we need to reclassify co2 as food to justify confining and feeding CO2 to school children

    • @deceiver123m
      @deceiver123m 7 років тому

      Kenneth Hermann in ecuador the steam feeds the generators that feed the turbines

    • @Mira_linn
      @Mira_linn 7 років тому +1

      Anthony Plaza one does not exclude the other as the preheating ain't really reliant on the pressure. You can even just use the condensed water to heat houses with directly instead of sending steam around

  • @Misterz3r0
    @Misterz3r0 6 років тому +2

    I always wondered why fight scenes inside building corridors in movies had steam pipes that would inevitable by broken and directed toward one of the parties.

  • @PlaywithJunk
    @PlaywithJunk 4 роки тому

    Cleaner and greener..... but how is all that steam made? Coal? Oil?

  • @mashroob
    @mashroob 6 років тому +13

    Steam.exe stopped working. Steam needs to be online to update. Cannot restart Steam. *Sim-type game town dies.

  • @steviebboy69
    @steviebboy69 6 років тому +1

    I always wondered why you would see steam on videos or movies in NYC. I never knew there was a steam system like this.

  • @Dhspat
    @Dhspat 5 років тому +1

    Great video. Interesting.

  • @usu15550
    @usu15550 6 років тому +4

    How come the source of energy for producing the steam in the first place was not mentioned once?
    What is it?

    • @fringestream990
      @fringestream990 6 років тому +1

      usu15550 a by product from cooling off reactors that produce electricity.

    • @schrempskynate8944
      @schrempskynate8944 6 років тому +2

      It's natural gas. They mentioned cogen units. That's what powers them.

  • @teddyuk7594
    @teddyuk7594 5 років тому +3

    I like how the 2 accidents aren't accidents, they're "anomalies." They can't BOTH be unique. One is unique. Then another happened.

  • @Vivra_Verra____
    @Vivra_Verra____ 6 років тому

    Did not know this. Really interesting.

  • @remoreacts91
    @remoreacts91 6 років тому +2

    where is the water coming from? Did they say?

  • @chelseawhite7117
    @chelseawhite7117 3 роки тому

    The Times’s outtro music reminds me instantly of he theme from Inside Out every time

  • @MichiganMan1985
    @MichiganMan1985 4 роки тому

    Fascinating!

  • @amesadamson
    @amesadamson 6 років тому +1

    really fascinating!

  • @lasvegassnowman5505
    @lasvegassnowman5505 5 років тому

    Very interesting in our tiny city of 36k they used hot water in the winter if I am correct, btw I was only about 10 or so :) I still remember exploring those coal boilers to this day, what an adventure still smiling :)

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 4 роки тому +2

    Wow, I never knew there were cites out there that had steam being used as a utility, like water, electricity or gas! It seems like something out of a steam-punk game!

  • @elij.s.7580
    @elij.s.7580 4 роки тому

    when water turns to steam it increases 1,700 times in volume. that's a ton of power. and it's just water vapor. I imagine the only reason there aren't more cities in the U.S. using steam is it would require its own infrastructure, and probably be insanely expensive to put in giant pipes underground as well as outfit buildings with everything necessary for steam. I noticed they said New York City was basically "built around steam"

  • @accesser
    @accesser 7 років тому

    Did not know this was a thing thanks

  • @WorkerBee2011
    @WorkerBee2011 10 років тому +6

    TOO COOL!!

  • @alextomich
    @alextomich 5 років тому +1

    But where does the power to generate that steam come from? And why is it always coming out of pipes from shady alleys?

  • @Cheeseatingjunlista
    @Cheeseatingjunlista 6 років тому +2

    Combined heat and power phased out in London for air quality reasons - is there no pollution impact in NY?

    • @tonychambers9228
      @tonychambers9228 4 роки тому

      Less of a impact then every building burning fossil fuel or electricity to heat and cool .

  • @over00lordunknown12
    @over00lordunknown12 6 років тому

    How do they get all of these people together for these stories? If I was making a documentary I wouldn't know where to start.

  • @lemmythebulldog8812
    @lemmythebulldog8812 5 років тому +1

    My dad works with Steve mosto

  • @Steve-bo6ht
    @Steve-bo6ht 5 років тому

    The old photo's of Manhattan have incredible atmosphere

  • @jasonyung525
    @jasonyung525 5 років тому

    wow i had no idea

  • @joshrockwellchem
    @joshrockwellchem 6 років тому +5

    What % of condensate is recovered now?

    • @gregorymalchuk272
      @gregorymalchuk272 6 років тому +1

      I was just thinking that!!! How much condensate is returned to the plant and how much make up water is required.

    • @BigIrish1983
      @BigIrish1983 5 років тому +1

      So in the building I work in we use the condensate to preheat our hot water by passing through a heat exchanger. Then the heated water goes through a hot water generator, using steam, that heats up your tap water. The condensate goes through a cooling tank, as required by law, before it is discharged into the sewer system. As far as I know, condensate is disposed of at the consumers point of use. ConEd doesn’t recover any of the condensate.

  • @miamyguy
    @miamyguy 4 роки тому

    I still dont get it...why do we have the steam system? Is it used for heating?

  • @brandonbaney5734
    @brandonbaney5734 5 років тому +3

    Let's get some of the operators and engineers on here to answer real questions.
    Why is steam so efficient?
    How do you heat the water, into stream?
    Where do you get the water?
    What is steam hammer?
    What precautions are taken to minimize potentially dangerous failure events in the future?
    What pressures do your systems run at?
    How hot is your steam, and why is it that hot?
    Why does stream seem to vent from specific locations , continuously?
    Details make the cake.

    • @lemonsqueeZ96
      @lemonsqueeZ96 5 років тому

      1) Because it would get wasted otherwise and it's still useful, 2) Boilers, by burning something 3) River probably 4) Look up "practical engineering" they have a video on this 5) Multiple-redundant safety features. Too complicated to answer simply 6) 200psi 7) Most steam systems run at the boiling point of water unless they're superheated this is just how steam works 8) Leaks or overflow. This is also a safety feature, excess steam is allowed to vent to prevent pressure build-up. But also because in general you're making more than you need, if you made less than you need you'd periodically have not enough because nothing is perfect and the load is going to cycle.

    • @brandonbaney5734
      @brandonbaney5734 5 років тому +1

      @@lemonsqueeZ96 I don't think you get the point

    • @hubert187
      @hubert187 5 років тому

      Steam has a high heating value. Also before natural gas was placed in the city, having one coal plant was a lot better then every building running their own.
      Steam is heated under pressure in the superheater after it leaves the steam drum. This is where the steam is 'dried'.
      The water comes from the Aqueduct, so it needs to be processed via an RO, or else you will scale the boiler.
      The street pressure is around 200 psi I think.
      It's probably around 300-400 degrees to carry the extra btus.
      Steam vents because there is a steam trap that failed. It's likely waiting to be repaired during a shutdown.

  • @sd906238
    @sd906238 4 роки тому +4

    One of those steam lines broke in an office building back in 1972. It cooked 7 people alive.

  • @skunkjobb
    @skunkjobb 5 років тому

    There are district heating networks in all cities in the Nordic countries but with hot water instead of steam. I guess you have that too in the US.

  • @poly_hexamethyl
    @poly_hexamethyl 6 років тому +1

    2:02 No wonder it's 90% humidity in the plant if they discharge steam inside. Would that be unintentional leaks? Why not discharge it outside?

    • @schrempskynate8944
      @schrempskynate8944 6 років тому +2

      It's condensate that goes to the trenches to be reused. By reusing it the efficiency goes way up. If they don't drain it then you get water hammer.

  • @english792
    @english792 5 років тому +1

    Strictly speaking, the white vapor isn't really steam. Actual steam is invisible.

  • @claireoconnell7657
    @claireoconnell7657 5 років тому

    How do they generate all the steam? Where do they get the water and what's used to heat it?

  • @jmyers9853
    @jmyers9853 5 років тому +1

    i always wondered why so much steam was coming out of the streets in nyc

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat 2 роки тому

    I assume that if you live in a residential house or apartment in Manhattan, then there's a "steam meter" some where in the building? Like there is for other utilities like gas, water and electric?

  • @deecotton5435
    @deecotton5435 5 років тому +1

    Most have no idea what's under their feet.

  • @sz42781
    @sz42781 5 років тому +1

    An unseen highpressure steam leak can cut your arm clean off

  • @liverii6540
    @liverii6540 3 роки тому

    Impressive

  • @Zayday1993
    @Zayday1993 4 роки тому

    its scary how 4:56 looks almost identical to the world trade center collapse I remember people saying they thought it was another event

  • @General5USA
    @General5USA Рік тому

    Where does New York get the oil for all the steam heat?

  • @davefoc
    @davefoc 5 років тому

    The NYU cogeneration plants were interesting. On cold days does NYU generate more electricity than it can use to heat its building? Can it feed the excess electricity into the New York City grid?

  • @marechalrommel
    @marechalrommel 6 років тому +1

    How is it produced?

  • @dylanwelles619
    @dylanwelles619 6 років тому +1

    What heats YOUR WATER?

  • @LilDanger-dp8oe
    @LilDanger-dp8oe 4 роки тому

    Rats: We use New York City steam to dig in trash cans
    Ninja Turtles: We get our pizza from steam.

  • @misium
    @misium 7 років тому +9

    Never heard of steam being used in cities as a byproduct from power plants. The normal is to use water, not steam.

  • @gmeztubenation
    @gmeztubenation 3 роки тому

    The main point of the steam is for radiator heat in the winter. I feel like they missed that.

  • @badbwoyjojo3724
    @badbwoyjojo3724 4 роки тому +5

    I'm so proud of the Human race watching this video.

  • @pieter5466
    @pieter5466 4 роки тому

    Makes me wonder:
    - what would it take to completely electrify NYC (e.g. no more steam)
    - what would be gained, e.g. robustness? simplicity? cost reduction? etc

    • @nathaniely.236
      @nathaniely.236 3 роки тому

      NYC is already fully electrified, as in all buildings have access to electricity. Getting rid of the steam system would require all the buildings currently using it to build new heating and cooling systems (hot water heaters and the like) that would be much more separated and likely less efficient. Not to mention, they would still have to burn natural gas and would probably be less clean in general. The steam system is not really outdated at all in terms of a centralized and efficient heating system.

  • @saudiprince6532
    @saudiprince6532 5 років тому +3

    But I don’t know why you need so much steam?

    • @hubert187
      @hubert187 5 років тому

      To heat all the city radiators/ air handler units.

  • @Schooney60606
    @Schooney60606 6 років тому +3

    Funny watching this after seeing there was a steam pipe explosion today.

  • @cevu5kol060
    @cevu5kol060 3 роки тому

    Watching because the IL cold weather is killing my skin haha.

  • @bedfordpower
    @bedfordpower 5 років тому +11

    If steam is so efficient why haven’t I seen any new town or neighborhood implement this system ?

    • @dylanpeterson6192
      @dylanpeterson6192 5 років тому +3

      If you look at large hospitals or business parks, you will likely see steam. I work at the VA and we use steam for heating, and chilled water for cooling the entire campus. it all originates from one building and is piped to the rest, where it is fed into the air conditioning system at numerous points.

    • @placeholdername0000
      @placeholdername0000 5 років тому

      In Denmark and other Nordic countries we use hot water from powerplants and solar facilities.

    • @Playinghaloin2004
      @Playinghaloin2004 5 років тому

      They do! Large facilities such as stadiums,, hospitals and conference centers still use boilers for heating and energy transfer.
      And every home has a hit water heater in it!

    • @tonychambers9228
      @tonychambers9228 4 роки тому

      There are plenty of citys that use this type of steam system. The reason most places dont have it is because its expensive to implement and most of these systems were installed when the citys were in development.

  • @TheAntiEggroll
    @TheAntiEggroll 5 років тому +2

    Why do no other major cities do it at this level if its such a positive thing?

    • @josch468
      @josch468 4 роки тому +1

      TheAntiEggroll Because it is outdated.

    • @jakeweazy
      @jakeweazy 4 роки тому +1

      To go back and add steam now would be a nightmare but because it's already there it's a great thing to have

    • @taylorlightfoot
      @taylorlightfoot 4 роки тому +1

      @@josch468 It wouldn't make sense to build a steam system today. Less and less of our energy is being produced by burning fossil fuels as the grid shifts towards renewable carbon free power sources (wind/hydro/solar/etc) NY uses it because it's been there forever. They'll continue to use it so long as they're burning fossil fuels to generate electricity for the city.

  • @dallasjsallad
    @dallasjsallad Рік тому

    At 5:07 I wonder if that is a part on his desk that led to the explosion in 2007 🧐

  • @wasiftajwar149
    @wasiftajwar149 4 роки тому

    I alwayz wondered wat are those sky scraper cooking?

  • @Michaelbos
    @Michaelbos 5 років тому

    Very interesting .

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 7 років тому

    Can we still make bagels? Sure. It's just a little steamy.

  • @1pedro876
    @1pedro876 4 роки тому

    He said they use steam for cooling... how?

  • @SilenceDogood76
    @SilenceDogood76 5 років тому

    The fact that it takes at least 7 minutes to explain the New York City steam system says a lot about this video.

    • @SilenceDogood76
      @SilenceDogood76 5 років тому

      @Blake Brown This video is 6:59 minutes long. It does very little to explain anything about the New York City steam system. It is a waste of time.

  • @vishalgaurav4411
    @vishalgaurav4411 5 років тому +1

    I never knew that steam was also necessary for a modern city

    • @taylorlightfoot
      @taylorlightfoot 4 роки тому

      It's not necessary, but they keep using it. At least as long as electricity is generated by burning methane.