The VTOL Jet You Didn’t Know You Need! | iniBuilds Dornier Do 31 | Full Flight Review | MSFS
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In this video, we take the iniBuilds / Asobo Dornier Do 31 out for a hop, skip and a jump, within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We will be ferrying the aircraft over to the Paris Air Show, departing out of Oberpfaffenhofen (EDMO) bound for Paris Le Bourget (LFPB), overflying Friedrichshafen (home of the real Do 31) enroute.
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
ASUS Z790
Intel Core i9 13900K 5.8GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
64GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - Ігри
Dornier have always designed and built weird, quirky stuff. The Do335 is my favourite.
I remeber seeing this beast for the first time at the Dornier Museum. I was just stunned, never saw something like this before. Cant belive we have it in the sim now.
First the Dune Ornithopter and now the Razor Crest, how fun! 😂
Hopefully it doesn't blow up!
In my opinion it looks more like the rocket Ajax from the Flash Gordon movie
I don’t know WHAT they were thinking spending all that time modelling such a strange, innovative and quirky aircraft. What we punters REALLY want is yet another A320, identical to the other 8 A320s on offer except for a slightly weathered flight deck!
ITBS though has missed a trick here as this aircraft more than any other deserved an introduction to the Thunderbirds theme. That would have absolutely set the review off perfectly.
Great review though, thank you! I’ll be getting this simply for the novelty value!
Thank god somebody finally acknowledged the A320 oversaturation.
Haha! Not to worry Andy, I gather we’re expecting another A320, any day now! : P
You’re 100% correct; whilst it did occur to me that the Do31 could easily be Thunderbird 6, I rather missed a trick by not including the music XD
I’m glad you otherwise enjoyed the video though and I do hope you had some fun with the Dornier also. “Thunderbirds are go!”
All the best : )
Hello sir! Great video as always.
I have a funny story about this airplane. When I lived in Southern Oregon, I met the test pilot Dornier hired to fly this beast.
His name was Drury Wood and he was from the golden age of American test pilots, WW2 Navy vet flying corsairs then post war civilian test pilot.
We hit it off as I am a long time aviation guy and chatting further it was evident he was very proud of working for Dornier on this project. I believe he flew it at the Paris and Farnborough air shows around 1969 1970 ish
He was in his late 80s when I met him and one day he showed at my work and gave me a bunch of photos and a video dvd all taken during the project.
After seeing this AC for the sim I need to dig them out of storage and have a look again at them
Small , small world
Haha well, that’s very cool indeed, Andy!
I did a little reading ahead of this review and was surprised to find out that it was an American test pilot, flying on behalf of Dornier (amazing how much can change in just a few short years!). Amazing that you got a chance to talk with him and share some of his stories etc.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video however, much cooler hearing stories from the guy that actually flew it haha!
Many thanks and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations funny additional story: after meeting him, I asked Mr Wood what got him started loving aviation and he told me in late 1920s early 1930s Georgia, where he grew up, the local airfield had an aviation day and his dad bought him a ride on a Ford Trimotor. He was hooked !
Looks fun I just wish the suspension wasn’t as stiff as a rock
MSFS problem, the ground handling and aircraft suspension is non-existent.
Agreed, FSCFI; the suspension is rock hard, which is a shame and all the more noticeable on a VTOL aircraft haha. As Zach points out though, unfortunately, that seems to be an issue with most MSFS addons : /
All the best! : )
The German VTOL Fighters of that time are super interesting as well.
Nice touch there with the German song. As a German I appreciate this.
Weird choice for a local legend but I like Dornier getting some love.
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This plane is ridiculously beautiful and I had to buy it. It was inexpensive, so just had to add this incredible machine to my rapidly filling hangar. It is an amazing design and the ergonomics/visibility of the cockpit are remarkable. This is one powerful bird!
It's like a B-29 crossed with War Rocket Ajax from Flash Gordon. Great review as ever.
Fingers crossed you don't get an engine failure and have to make a dreaded 9-engine landing.
I love that msfs has so many bonkers aircraft (even if the quality is variable).
In the comments to see how far I'd have to scroll to see Flash Gordon..
Haha! That might be the most apt description yet, Roland. For such a unique looking aircraft, it’s amazing how it somehow manages to look like so many other things at the same time. . . XD
I did wonder about an engine-out scenario; presumably, one of the reasons there are 4 engines on each side, it to offer a little bit of redundancy however, I don’t think it would be hard for one engine to take out the others around it. It then occurred to me, what a precarious position a Harrier pilot is in during the hover although, at least he can punch out - not a luxury afforded to those down the back of a DO31 : /
I’m 100% with you; by and large, Asobo has played a blinder with their “Local Legends” / “Famous Flyer” series : )
Cheers and have a great weekend!
So glad to see your review on this one. Thank you.
Cheers DGT, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! My pleasure - it’s always nice to review something a little bit different haha.
Thanks for watching and all the best : )
Great review, thanks. Loved the song during the cruise :-)
Thanks very much, Mike! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and indeed the music haha : )
Much appreciated and all the best!
Another plane from the past!Instead of some 737-200, 727, 747-200, DC-9...these relics keep coming out! Free or paid...Thank God, there are people who have resurrected these FSX ones, but gentlemen! Finally, could someone develop some "view from the tower like in FS2004 or Fsx?! My opinion!
awww the best chubby vtol, the spike on the nose, so great
I guess the odd trastion from vertical to horizal flight being weird is how MSFS handles stall it really seemed like it though you were stalling so it was dipping your wing.
Something like that G&B. I wonder whether the Do31 doesn’t make use of a modified helicopter flight model - that could account for the strange behaviours also.
Cheers for your thoughts! All the best : )
Well executed - excellent video and flight.
Thank you very much, Øystein. Obviously, the addon is somewhat basic but, it’s nice to try something a little bit different in the sim : )
Much appreciated and all the best!
I wished I watched this video before I bought the aircraft, the fact you can't control throttle yourself made me lose all interest in this addon, big shame as I really like the aircraft
In real life, the throttles were managed by the Copilot. It is just not possible to manage them yourself
@@Jannik_Stein I modded the aircraft so I have full control, it's possible and it's fun. I'm trying to make the mod an easy drag and drop in community and I'll publish it
You can check my channel, there are two videos of it.
@@federico339 ok now you've got my interest
@@Jannik_Stein unfortunately it's a very "hacky" thing, and it doesn't work too well, also until someone decrypts the files I don't think it's going to be possible to have a drag and drop mod, I might do a video explaining what I did and exactly how it work
I just assigned different controls so they work independently as I have throttle control.
Unique aircraft, great to have it in the sim. As always your presentation is well done, thoughtful, comprehensive, and …fun! Really enjoyed the video,thank you!!
Many thanks, Art! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ALWAYS enjoy your presentations. Have watched several of them many times, learn more each time(!)
Another interesting presentation.... Thank you for sharing your views on another aircraft... Really appreciated...Roger... Pembrokeshire..
Thank you very much, Roger - much appreciated!
Have a great weekend : )
Another great vid.. Absolutely awesome to see this flying from all perspectives... Would love to have a crack at flying this amazing machine. Like you say a few issues but overall a great package... Thanks again for a great vid.. 👍👌
Thank you very much Adam, I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight / a virtual look at this unique machine! Much appreciated and all the best : )
Very useful review! 👍👍
Thanks very much, Raymond! I’m glad you found it useful : )
Cheers!
OH GAWD DARNIT, I promised myself to not get any new aircraft this month!!! Then they go and bring out this amazingly odd and wild machine. That nicely done an most likely very accurate flight deck is likely due to the fact the actual machine still exists. They do need to soften up that landing gear as there appeared no compression at all. The visual model though is really well done. Gonna let some time to go by before getting it, but I will be getting it. I love odd ball aircraft like this.
Mustard made a nice video about this unusual aircraft, best to check it out for some history 101 with the Do31 before watching ini's tutorial or this on how to fly it
I absolutely love your videos. They are so immersive. Please keep up the awesome content. PS - would love to see some more flying in South Africa some day. 😊
Many thanks, sir! I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content. I was considering SA for an A340 video (given that I see SAA has just started flying the old gal internationally again) but, I’m afraid Asia won out for my next video. I do fancy another Joburg to Cape Town trip - I’m sort of waiting on a FlyJSim 727 / 737 in XP12, or the MILVIZ 737 within MSFS : )
Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations oooo SAA certainly are taking her across to Perth… perhaps the LVFR a340 needs another look at 🫣
The lack of supension travel feels a bit wrong. (ua-cam.com/video/x3YueCf1JeI/v-deo.html) @1:50 ...And they missed the iconic sound of the engines.
yeah the missing howl sucks
I noticed that also!
Agreed, Tom. With that level of suspension travel, my landing would have been rather backbreaking! XD
Weight and balance for the LOAD position must be a bit of a nightmare.
kind of needs a "Man in the High Castle" mission set..
Haha. Something along those lines would be fun!
Cheers, all the best : )
There's one DO 31 on display near Munich. Been there dozens of times in my childhood. Never imagined i could "fly" one in MCS... simply amazing!
It’s still there. I stand in that bird regularly, one of my favs. Sat in an F4 Phantom there too. For anyone interested: Fliegerwerft Schleissheim, part of Deutsches Museum.
I literally have no idea what you are talking about, but I do really like your vids :)
I'd never heard of this aircraft until MSFS announced it awhile back. What a strange plane!
Haha likewise, JB! It’s an interesting aircraft to have in the sim though, even if it is a little basic : )
All the best!
Sail drift must be the kinetic of lift, pushing you down and to the right, not like a stall, like a kite
Interesting aircraft! Is it possible that you could do a review of the Chinook? It seems to have some interesting features.
Hi UL,
I would like to take a look at the Chinook. Unfortunately, I’ve rather missed the boat on the initial release “hype” so, the addon isn’t a top priority (as compared with more recent releases) but, I dare say I will feature the addon at some point : )
Cheers and all the best!
Captain Ted is there water running through those engines like a newer VSTOL would have? Or air cooling only?
As usual awesome well documented, well read easy to understand for us low hour pilots you make it seam so easy and it's NOT an easy plane to fly by any means! Again Great video your a blessing and as others have said should have watched this video before attempting to fly such a complexed aircraft. Ty sir id fly with you anytime
Good question but, I’m afraid I’m actually not sure, Phill. From the little reading that I did, it seems that the DO31 has thrust in excess of its MTOW so, I’m not sure that the water would be needed - that’s just speculation though. . .
I’m really glad that you enjoyed the video; the DO31 is certainly a very unique and interesting aircraft and whilst far from perfect, the addon is a nice effort for what it is : )
Many thanks once again, sir and all the best!
There is also one Aircraft Displayed in the "Flugwerft Oberschleißheim part of the German Museum in Munich. If you like to see it live and in Real.
What's the name of the German song you added midway through? Great video and a unique aircraft!
Hi B2X,
This was the song that I used (even better with the video): ua-cam.com/video/ClDkeyL7soU/v-deo.htmlsi=w_HJAjhFsh0d8uz3
I’m glad you enjoyed the vid and indeed the DO31! Cheers and all the best : )
Sir, you are an exceptional aviator, and your experience shows in all your videos. 😄 The shot of your coming into land is so very reminiscent of the Thunderbirds-styled aircraft of the same era... and I think your comments are fair... hopefully IniBuilds will take note. 👍🏼
Many thanks for the incredibly kind words, SFS! I’m glad you enjoyed the video and yes, hopefully iniBuilds will improve the DO31 a little further.
Very much appreciated and all the best to you! : )
The aircraft probably pitches during the transition from vertical to horizontal flight because of the vectoring nozzles on the main engines. Obviously, it depends on the relationship between center of thrust (CoT) and center of gravity (CG), but generally speaking almost any tilt-jet is going to have this tendecy. Basically, any angle between vertical and horizontal on the thrust vectoring is going to cause some sort of pitching moment because of a misallignment between the CoT and CG vectors that ideally? should be mitigated with thrust differential and PID control if possible. Not sure if the Do 31 has this complete ability. As for the rolling right tendency I have no idea. Anyways cool demonstration video!
what a rather odd Aeroplane but not an odd video thank you for doing this.
Haha, my pleasure, Mike! A very odd (but intriguing) addon indeed : D
Have a great weekend!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thats why I baught the tomahawk very odd and You have a good weekend as well.
Really happy to see an aircraft that stands out from the others.
Shame there's not really any ground equipment. It's not exactly necessary but I do quite like it for screenshot purposes.
Also the Dornier Museum is well worth a visit if you're ever near Friedrichshafen.
Can easily combine that with a visit to Lindau or Immenstaad am Bodensee for some dinner / drinks at the shores of Lake Constance.
Ah yes, travel tips under a flight simulation video me. Just where they belong
Haha well, that does sound like a pretty excellent travel itinerary to be fair, Dream! Perhaps you have missed your calling in life ; )
Cheers mate, all the best!
I have seen the real plane. It looks quite interesting. Would not have guessed that it would get into MSFS
Any chance they could be using a heavily modified helicopter flight model and the right hand wing drop is due to the left over rotor torque and tail rotor physics?
You could well be correct Danowat and the thought had occurred to me also. That would certainly explain a lot and seems more likely, than the behaviours I encountered being a legitimate real-world characteristic of the Do31. I can’t say for sure though. . .
Cheers, all the best! : )
It's like something from Thunderbirds. Or from Marvels Captain America movies.
Imagine thunderbird 2 in the sim.😊
Haha, that was very much one of my thoughts also, Ian. As another viewer pointed out, I missed a trick by not making the Thunderbirds theme the intro music to this video! XD
Cheers, all the best : )
This pointy little bastard has TEN ENGINES. No other modern aircraft has needed a dedicated flight engineer more
why is the left stick canted toward the left (as i would imagine it would so you can fly with your left hand leaving your right to manipulate the center controls) but the thumb pickle button seems shaped for your right hand. a bit confusing there.
Haha, I did wonder the same myself, Shawn. I guess, Dornier cantered the stick into a more comfortable position but, didn’t feel like re-designing the stick itself (perhaps the stick is “stock”, from another aircraft type). I’m not really sure though. . .
Cheers, all the best : )
There is one in munich
FLASH!! ... ah ahhhhhh!! ... despatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body.
I believe the space version came with Emperor Ming stuck on the front.
I may be wrong but i do not think the vertical engines are modelled in the sim. The nose wheel should not lift. The elevators are responsible for nose wheel lift when the air flow is sufficient.
my guess is that the aircraft has a heavy headwind modelled into it or its treated as a 10kg aircraft meaning the forward speed you see on heavy brakes is sufficient to lift it into the air.
Try takeoff with the B747 with a 160kt headwind.
It’s quite possible that you’re correct PO; I’m not really sure how the aircraft has been modelled (my guess, would be some sort of helicopter flight model / hack) but, the DO31 certainly exhibits some strange behaviours (including the ones that you mention).
Cheers for your thoughts and all the best! : )
How do you control your view? Do you use head tracking and disable it when needing to click on something?
Hi Dibby,
I use head-tracking (TrackIR 5 to be precise). I have my profile dialled in, such that with a little bit of careful head movement, things are stable enough for me to click on switches etc, without disabling the tracking each time (if you want to try my profile for yourself, it’s available over on Flightsim.to : )
I hope that helps a little? All the best!
SO COOL to have such an uncommon aircraft in the sim!
I very much agree, US! : )
It would be nice if iniBuilds developed the DO31 a little bit further but, I think that’s unlikely to happen (so, I will just enjoy the aircraft for what it is).
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yep - and for $15, it's hard for me to complain.
Many thanks for the great demo flight!
Greetings
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The gear seems too stiff when it lands.
It was harder to set the flight controls on the flight stick then it was actually to fly this thing.
From a cold start my aircrafts hover engines are locked open, how do i close them? I tried just taking off from a hover then clicking the button to disengage it but it stays open, how come?
It rolls when you pitch in forward flight? Sounds like a lateral weight inbalance, maybe fuel tank locations or something
Actually, it pitches down (which I could maaaybe understand) and rolls to the right, when main engine thrust is added in / to exit the hover. I can’t really think why that would be (unless it’s some hangover from iniBuilds using a helicopter flight model, perhaps?). . . Any ideas, sir? : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No idea! lol I don't have the airplane, not really my thing
great to have a walrus to fly in the sim!! 😁
Walrus or Norwhal?
@@normanbyrne9868 SHIT! yes a Narwhal 🤣
There is at least another one located at the Deutsches Museum in Munich
Yeah I’ve seen that one too.
@@monacosfranz4202a bisserl was geht halt immer 😉
@@e36s50b30 so schaugts aus 😅
An odd and oddly beautiful plane.
Agreed, Kyle; somehow, Dornier managed to create an airframe that is simultaneously both beautiful and ugly haha.
All the best!
never fails, i watch your videos and i spend money lol
Haha! My sincere apologies, Marshie - at least this one is quite cheap and cheerful XD
Happy flying and have a great weekend!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations hah no apologies needed. your reviews have exposed me to several payware airplanes i would have otherwise avoided. you as well buddy, all the best!
How does it compare to MV-22B Osprey?
I’m afraid I couldn’t say, Greg - I don’t own the Osprey (yet).
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best : )
What's making all that noise when you flip the battery master on? It sounds like she immediately starts spooling an engine?
Hi Streaky,
I assume that noise is supposed to emulate the avionics fans (or something to that effect). Quite a nice sound effect although, rather loud, as you say. Aircraft fans can be pretty noisy but, they aren't generally louder than a Rolls Royce Pegasus at full chat (which seemed to be the case here) XD
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah, I did wonder if it was the avionics, and maybe gyros spinning up, but seemed too loud for that. After having watched the rest though, I wonder if it's the vertical lift engines we're hearing? You mentioned when you went to start them that the throttle for them was already in start, and they were already spinning? I wonder if that throttle is meant to be out of the start position before you put the batteries on?
It could well be that also. I had my (3rd) throttle axis all the way back and that seems to be as far back as the lift engine levers will go. That being said, the lift engines do seem to immediately spool up to some degree, as you say. I did wonder whether that’s by design (perhaps they are always partially spooled, to allow for a quick start-up etc) but, to be frank, I have no idea haha.
Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one. All the best!
First in the comments section!! I wanted to check this aircraft out! Thank you for the video💪🏻
My pleasure on the video, Alethino! Cheers : )
Looks like a cartoon character
Flying Narwhal.
Surely this is THE holy grail of post-apocalyptic aircraft to use?!!!
If post-apocalyptic earth has oceans made of oil, maybe.
@@mro9466And seas of ground crews
Haha perhaps, John! Although, as MRO points out, you’d certainly need access to vast supplies of JET A1 (and depending on the nature of said apocalypse, some guns might be useful also) : P
All the best!
You should be playing the "Erika" song while flying this.
❤ good video as always ❤ thx for that.
But please do not torture me with the bad German Fliegerkameraden song. 😂 I am able to understand the language 😂
Take care
Haha! One doesn’t need to speak German, to know that it’s a pretty cheesy song but, I quite like it actually haha (though, it wouldn’t have been nearly as enjoyable, without the retro video that went along with it - G91’s, F-104’s, F-4’s etc).
Many thanks! : )
X-Plane could have simulated this aircraft much better. The FM for this in MSFS is laughable. If they uncouple the main engine vector thrust from the lift engine thrust, it would be a little better. Its nicely modeled though.
Ugly airplane , I like the song , what is the name of the song 🎵 ? It’s good when I will fly the Messerschmitt ! 😂
Ugly, yet somehow beautiful at the same time haha. This was the song that I used: ua-cam.com/video/ClDkeyL7soU/v-deo.htmlsi=JksWXJkXcDRgdGPh
Cheers, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations nice , thank you very much. ! 😃👌😍
You’re most welcome! : )
ua-cam.com/video/x3YueCf1JeI/v-deo.html its sound is like something straight from a 1960's science fiction movie
Why are the physics so shit in mfs, just notice how the gear behaves vs how it did irl
honestly don't blame mfs for that, the quality of individual aircraft varies widely, especially with these third party add-ons.
It would be way better and more appropriate if you did done this with helipads.
Lots of Do31 footage here : ua-cam.com/video/x3YueCf1JeI/v-deo.html
What is up with the weird artifacting on the intakes?
Hi IP,
I believe that's caused by DLSS frame generation (which I have recently started using).
I hope that clarifies things. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations It does explain it but with your rig you can just run straight TAA and the whole sim will look better.
Hi IP,
I was running straight TAA until very recently however, even with a decent PC, the sim was still choking my FPS from time to time (with quite a few people commenting on it); obviously it’s a bit of give and take but, I think the odd visual artefact is worth it, for a smother experience / video : )
Cheers!
Why they spend time and resource on those? There are a MILLION problems already to be solved into the sim... Maybe they´re just wating for the 2024 version to solve some, and than 2026 to sove some others, just as Apple does...
I can see where you’re coming from João however, the development of the DO31 was contracted out to iniBuilds so, I don’t think the addon cost anything in terms of MSFS’ development. That being said, I suspect you’re correct, in that Asobo’s focus is (for better or worse) probably shifting towards MSFS 2024 at this point. . .
All the best! : )
a kind of sub par aircraft, systems modelling is.. barebones and flight dynamics are like an arcade game.. dissapointed honestly
A truly wonderful aircraft that just doesn’t cut it. Inibuilds ego is too unhealthy, and falsely resembles authenticity through their undercooked work.
Hardly a thing from them seems to work on Xbox, which is not a good for a community that is passionate for wanting quality representation of products.
Genuinely I’m not appreciative for them as I once thought.
Reichsfuhrer John Smith has arrived
Inibuilds really did another half job here. Unfortunately. That "Oh is the copilot doing the job coz is complicated" smells like we couldn't be bothered more...
That’s fair, Zaelu. I find the DO31 to be fun for what it is and to be fair to iniBuilds, they probably just built what they were contracted to make (Asobo probably wasn’t looking for a “study level” rendition of the aircraft). That being said, I have been somewhat surprised by the quality of iniBuilds’ products within MSFS, given their reputation in X-Plane; other than their A310 / A300 (which are still not without fault), I’ve found most of their offerings in MSFS to be a little mediocre thus far. . .
Cheers, all the best!
The minute the word Inibuilds is mentioned it’s an absolute NO from me. Terrible developer.
They’re very spotty, almost nothing works on Xbox they make. Why are they praised? They’re a big pothole of a developer.
@@joshuagabsart totally agree. It amazes me why there are a great many people that think they’re great. Maybe on PC but definitely not on Xbox
Looks shite