How to install a drive hub extension on a Coleman or Fleetwood pop up camper

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  • @MarkM-xd2zo
    @MarkM-xd2zo Рік тому

    Hi Derek. Thank you so much for all that you do for us Coleman owners. I rent out pop-ups on Outdoorsy here in Colorado. When something on my Coleman breaks, I can rely on your store and videos to get me out of a jam. I recently had a drive hub extension fail on a customer camping 100 miles away. Your workaround to get the roof down and the video to replace it was extremely helpful! Please keep doing what you do; the world needs more people like you. :)

  • @billstoermer8668
    @billstoermer8668 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you, Derek. Just saved the day for my grandkids and family!

  • @kurtmiller976
    @kurtmiller976 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this video and replacement parts. The drive hub extension on my 2004 Fleetwood Bayside failed and this video with the new drive hub extension was exactly what I needed to fix it.

  • @a4SilverBullet
    @a4SilverBullet 4 роки тому +3

    Great video! Thanks again!

  • @tylerehrick1854
    @tylerehrick1854 2 роки тому

    This helped so much in fixing our fleet wood!!

  • @montemartella7914
    @montemartella7914 3 роки тому

    Great Video. Replaced mine perfectly because of this.

  • @byebyeclutter
    @byebyeclutter 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video, Derek! We replaced our drive hub extension and we are back in business! We lost ours on our way home from camp. Quick question, how do you know when to stop unwinding when you are lowering the popup? If you go too far, does that loosen the drive hub?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 місяці тому +1

      I always recommend lock-tite the drive shaft nut on so this does not occur.

    • @byebyeclutter
      @byebyeclutter 4 місяці тому

      Great, we used the red lock tite so fingers crossed! Our camper is 30 years old and likely had the original drive hub extension. Always twisted and turned so surprised it didn't fall off sooner. Thanks again!

  • @donpedro71
    @donpedro71 4 місяці тому

    I suspect the issue is inside the box just beyond the crank assembly tube. Do you have a video that shows how to take apart the inside and replace? I have the model with the two open side bearing cup.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 місяці тому

      More videos coming soon on lift system components

  • @sammysam45
    @sammysam45 Рік тому

    Do you have to replace all the gears that they sell when buying the tube if its bad. Or just the extention tube?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  Рік тому

      The drive hub, drive shaft and clutch pad are common replacement parts. If the drive shaft and clutch pad are fine, replace just the tube.

  • @emeraldwilson5784
    @emeraldwilson5784 Рік тому

    Can you tell me what to do if i can not get the bolt to break free? You made it look so simple.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  Рік тому +1

      If you have the dreaded slotted nut instead of the 5/8, you may need to cut the tube above the nut to allow extraction

    • @mariahbreding7759
      @mariahbreding7759 4 місяці тому

      Where do you cut it? I have tried with all my might and am turning the waffle tree in the process. Don't want to damage wiffle

    • @mariahbreding7759
      @mariahbreding7759 4 місяці тому

      Also a 5/8 socket fits fine

  • @jmohr77
    @jmohr77 6 місяців тому

    99 Redwood...top wont go gown after raising with zero issues. Seems as though it might be the hub extension, but is it possible that drive shaft itself should be replaced? New to camper life here!

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  6 місяців тому

      It’s likely that the drive hub is not decompressing. I would start my diagnostics there.

    • @jmohr77
      @jmohr77 6 місяців тому

      @@popupcamperpro Will do, thank you.

  • @gloriarubio2203
    @gloriarubio2203 2 роки тому

    Awesome info - is it possible the drive hub extension just needs a cleaning or do the mentioned issues (roof stuck up, no clicking, etc.) call for replacement? When I removed the drive hub entension nut/tube, there was a lot of gunk, so wondering if I can reinstall after I clean it.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  2 роки тому

      Give it a shot Gloria! It won’t hurt to try.

  • @thcrw7391
    @thcrw7391 Рік тому

    I looked in mine with a flashlight and that pin that the crank tool holds on too is bent weird almost a c shape in the center of it, not sure it will tap out correctly with a punch, Any suggestions?

  • @erictreptow1549
    @erictreptow1549 2 роки тому

    Awesome Derek. Watched many of your videos and was able to understand and fix my 1996 Sedona issue. Roof was stuck in the up position. I found the 5/8 nut in the tube was completely off the threads. I was able to put it back on and tighten it. Roof goes up and down fine now. Any thought why it would have come off? This camper is new to me so I have no idea what the history of the unit is. Ran out of time today but tomorrow I will remove the tube and inspect the spacers, spring and washer as well as the threads on the shaft.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  2 роки тому +1

      I recommend using Loctite to keep the nut on. Medium strength blue is what I use.

    • @erictreptow1549
      @erictreptow1549 2 роки тому

      @@popupcamperpro thanks. I saw that on the video and I missed that step when putting it pack on

  • @reginagenovesi3608
    @reginagenovesi3608 3 роки тому

    I have a new drive hub extension on its way for my 2000 Sedona. If this doesn't get my pop up to lower what would be the next area you would recommend focusing on? I have greased the whiffle tree and cables. When I went to inspect the whiffle tree the plate was off and the cables were spun once around the whiffle tree.I fixed that as best as I could - hoping there wasn't permanent damage from the plate being loose. Thank you for any and all advice.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому

      Possible binding would be my next inspection. Cables and lift arms.

  • @jeffreyross8740
    @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому

    I just baought the rebuild kit and my nut only goes on a few threads. Did i get the wrong one, i cant wait another week for the right nut on my driveshaft in the tube

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  Рік тому

      Please give us a call at colemanpopupparts.com for assistance Jeffery!

  • @extendprogram
    @extendprogram 2 роки тому

    what are the symptoms that would warrant this needing replacing?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  2 роки тому

      A slipping hub is the number one reason kameron. Example if you turn the handle to the right and the roof does not raise. I hope this is helpful!

  • @KRT045
    @KRT045 4 роки тому +1

    So on the Utah model the whole back panel would need to be removed to replace this right?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому

      It should not be necessary to remove the rear panel to change the drive tube on any model. Doing so does give you a bit more access, and lets you inspect the overall condition of the crank and chain.

  • @acforhim1
    @acforhim1 4 роки тому +1

    Perfect!! Thank you for making this video. So, in order to replace my thrust bearing, I have to remove this first right? 2007 E3

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому +2

      Not on every system. On your E3 you should be able to undo the pins at the whiffle tree coupler, and unbolt the crank assembly without removing the drive hub tube. It's never a bad idea to disassemble the drive hub tube and check the overall condition of the parts as well.

    • @acforhim1
      @acforhim1 4 роки тому +1

      @@popupcamperpro I was thinking that! Great, I'll go that route first and then if successful I'll check out the hub tube. We are so thankful for your videos.

  • @ernestoluzan
    @ernestoluzan 4 роки тому +1

    I have a Somerset with an electric motor and I’d like to add an extension. My spare tire is in the way at this time of me having to manually crank the roof. In case the motor ever fails, I’d like to have an extension so I can easily crank and not have to remove spare. Any suggestions?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому

      A long reach crank handle or a fabricated motor over ride crank adapter should do the trick.

  • @mitchellaman5528
    @mitchellaman5528 5 місяців тому

    My drive tube is pretty loose and bent my crank handle. Can I just tighten it?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  5 місяців тому

      Not sure Mitch. I would recommend further diagnosing.

  • @diyrob9160
    @diyrob9160 Рік тому

    My roof will not raise up. The extension tube just spins, nothing els is spinning. The tube is also loose and I can’t get it to tighten snug. I have not tried removing the nut yet. Do you know why the tube would be loose and nothing happens when I try to crank it up?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  Рік тому +1

      We do! This is commonly a stripped drive hub and or drive shaft.

  • @jeffreyross8740
    @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому

    If I have a sheared pin on my whiffle tree would that cause the pop up not to go up?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  Рік тому

      Absolutely, although it’s not common.

    • @jeffreyross8740
      @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому +1

      @@popupcamperpro it's was the nut on the front side by the eyebolts.

  • @austinschuld8786
    @austinschuld8786 3 роки тому

    It looks like we're going to need your drivehub extension kit although we are running into a major problem. Our tube is not unscrewing when rotated to the left after the 5/8 nut is removed. I suspect it's corroded on. Do you have an recommendations to get this removed?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому

      It will come off. You will have to fight past the crossed threads. Don’t be afraid to cut it off close to the drive shaft, or use a bigger hammer.

  • @jerryparrotta4537
    @jerryparrotta4537 3 роки тому

    Hello Pop up camper pro. You may be my savior. I just acquired a 1996 Viking Legend pop up camper. It is in great shape but missing the extension hub. I ordered all the parts, I think, that I need but I don't know how to put it all together. I've been going crazy trying to find some instructions or diagrams or schematics but not having luck. Can you help me install this extension hub? Thank you, Jerry

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому

      Hello Jerry! I believe that the Viking uses Goshen lift system parts. We have two new videos coming out this week showing crank system rebuilds. Hopefully these may answer your questions.

  • @johntcloud9485
    @johntcloud9485 2 роки тому

    My drive hub extension has a flat head notch and no 5/8 inch nut. How do I removed it? It's locked up.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  2 роки тому

      We can help! Please see our other content covering this question or give us a call at colemanpopupparts.com

  • @bruceambrose5928
    @bruceambrose5928 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. What size of drill bit did you use?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому

      I checked my bits at the shop that I used, but they are not marked with the size. So sorry, we buy them in bulk from a nuts and bolt vendor, and I just grab an assortment from time to time. You can just match up the old pin with the same size bit. That's all I did. Perhaps someone else has a marked bit assortment and could answer as well?

  • @richardclaudio9526
    @richardclaudio9526 4 роки тому +1

    My 2002 Sedona will crank up but it won’t release to crank down seem like the extension tube is locked the only way to crank down is to release the pawl

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому +1

      You are correct. The tube is not releasing in this instance. I would recommend removing the tube and inspecting the threads.

    • @davidlynch1517
      @davidlynch1517 3 роки тому

      I have the exact same problem that it ratchets up but then won't release to come back down. Did you figure out what your cause was?

  • @joannedebuhan8814
    @joannedebuhan8814 2 роки тому

    Hi i just baught a fleet wood neon model 4139 . Would u know where i could find an owners manual? And would u know if the leveling jacks are suposed to b down before i pop up the trailor ?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  2 роки тому

      Welcome to the club Joanne! You can find the manuals, guides parts and more at my webstore colemanpopupparts.com/

  • @andreathompson9933
    @andreathompson9933 2 роки тому

    I followed these steps however it is not a 5/8 bolt, it is a large flat head "screw". I can not get enough purchase on it to remove. Have you ever seen this?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  2 роки тому

      Yes. If your unable to remove it, cut the tube off to allow the removal.

    • @andreathompson9933
      @andreathompson9933 2 роки тому

      @@popupcamperpro Thank you for your reply, what do you recommend to try removal before resorting to cutting tube off?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  2 роки тому

      @@andreathompson9933 you can try chemical penetrant and an air hammer to free it.

  • @GnosisMan50
    @GnosisMan50 3 роки тому

    You could also use a scissors jack to support the old hub to remove the crank pin. Aside from that, you really need to be careful drilling a new pin holes for the crank. It has to be at the center line of the extension diameter. Otherwise, your crank will not engage on the pin. I'm just wondering why they didn't drill that hole during manufacturing.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому

      Good tips GnosisMan50! I agree that perhaps we should start having the new hub kits manufactured with 2 or more position holes for the pins. Thanks for writing!

    • @jeffreyross8740
      @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому

      What if my 2 washers don't fit on shaft?

  • @donaltman9780
    @donaltman9780 4 роки тому

    What all is involved adding an electric lift motor to a camper that did not come with this option? I have a new to us 2003 Coleman Niagara elite and think I might like to upgrade the lift system.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому +1

      Hello Don! Your 03 Niagara calls for the ball bearing whiffle tree 5361. At the following link you can find the instructions for adding a power lift to this camper.
      cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0273/4347/files/ELECTRIC_LIFT_INSTALLATION_BALL_BEARING.pdf?10244277974924402285
      It should take about 2 to 4 hours, more than a few hundred dollars in parts and some fabrications is typically required as well. I hope this information is helpful, and thank you for writing!

  • @jeffreyross8740
    @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому

    How far do my shear pins gotta be in at thrust nut? There are 2?

  • @rn_texasangler7150
    @rn_texasangler7150 4 роки тому

    I have a 2007 Fleetwood niagara and im getting resistance if I'm cranking the roof down. Going up is okay, clutch is engaging fine but going down takes a lot of effort. What do you think is the problem?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому +1

      Hmmm. If the compression is disengaging completely in the crank assembly, I would suspect its binding in the arms, or the whiffle tree. I see on FB where you have maintained it by greasing. It could be an issue inside the drawbar block or bearings.

    • @rn_texasangler7150
      @rn_texasangler7150 4 роки тому

      @@popupcamperpro thanks. I think youre right about it binding. Thanks!

  • @kellyrichins6351
    @kellyrichins6351 3 роки тому

    Great video.. Nothing I tried seemed to work to make my 1999 Colman stay up. Still keeps falling down slowly.. I can't seem to find anyone in Salt Lake City Utah to fix it.. Any ideas?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому +1

      Hello Kelly! You can fix it. What have you tried so far?

    • @kellyrichins6351
      @kellyrichins6351 3 роки тому

      I figured it out finally.. Just had to take a breath and watch your videos a few more times.. 😄.. Thank you for spending your time to respond and making these great video's for all of us..

  • @daletyrrell8630
    @daletyrrell8630 3 роки тому

    What size drill bit did you use to drill the holes?

    • @dellie0dellie
      @dellie0dellie 3 роки тому

      I need to know that also

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому

      Simply choose a bit the same diameter as the pin or the existing hole. Easy breezy.

  • @jasonmoss7941
    @jasonmoss7941 3 роки тому

    Can I cut off my extension I've and make a new hole AFTER I have the whole new lift system installed. Forgot to do step #1!!😳

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому

      I do not see why not Jason.

    • @jasonmoss7941
      @jasonmoss7941 3 роки тому

      @@popupcamperpro the vibration won't mess up the threads on the tube, shaft, or whiffle tree will it?

    • @jasonmoss7941
      @jasonmoss7941 3 роки тому

      Thank you for all your help and videos @Pop up camper pro! I am now up and ready to go!😀

  • @jasonmoss7941
    @jasonmoss7941 3 роки тому

    Is it the same for an older model(96)?

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  3 роки тому +1

      On older models that have drive hub extension tubes, yes. Not all have this system. It was implemented in the early 90's.

    • @jasonmoss7941
      @jasonmoss7941 3 роки тому

      @@popupcamperpro thank you..bought a used 96 Fleetwood Taos last fall, took it out last weekend 1st time.
      Had crank handle in it and my daughter ran back in to get something. Tipped it onto the handle, now it won't crank up or down, just spins. Hopefully it's either the drive hub or the extension. I'm checking out all your videos since no one in a 200 mile radius works on pop ups. Again, thanks

  • @rileysowner
    @rileysowner 4 роки тому

    How do you support the tube on the 2005 Utah to remove the pin when it is so much higher up.

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  4 роки тому

      Good question James. A 1x2 or similar board cut to length will do the trick.

    • @rileysowner
      @rileysowner 4 роки тому +1

      @@popupcamperpro thanks. I am not yet sure if the extension tube is the issue, but the slipping seems to be for there. I was hoping to pull the wiffle tree cover off to inspect it today, but we have extreme rain and wind so it will have to wait. Hopefully it is the tube and I will be able to get it shipped up to Canada quickly or our trip in two weeks will be tenting it for a week.

    • @rileysowner
      @rileysowner 3 роки тому

      @@maryjuanarasta9220 yes. Replacing the drive hub extension tub fixed the issue.

  • @ellstackeradventures
    @ellstackeradventures 3 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @jeffreyross8740
    @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому

    Ya ...would of been nice to have 2 nuts to see which one fit right instead of having to order one

    • @popupcamperpro
      @popupcamperpro  Рік тому

      Two are included in the kits just for this Jeffery!

    • @jeffreyross8740
      @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому +1

      I ordered the 3000 crank assembly kit and received only one.

    • @jeffreyross8740
      @jeffreyross8740 Рік тому

      Sorry it was the rebuild kit. But it shows 2