I do wonder what the future will be for RED? Hopefully some of Nikon's reliability and customer service abilities will rub off onto RED itself? Maybe Nikon's huge manufacturing capabilities will also lead to lower prices for future REDs? Maybe we'll see a sub US$4K Komodo? A RED camera with the reliability and robustness of a Nikon Z8 but priced the same, would be quite nice. And it's a *good* thing that a big brand like Nikon who lack a cinema division purchased RED. As if Canon/Sony/ARRI/etc did it, then you could be certain that RED would be fairly quickly shut down (or at the very least gradually wound down). As why on earth would Canon/Sony/ARRI ever want to keep around a direct competitor?? Nope, they'll suck out the bits they want from RED, then shut down the rest so as to focus on their own cinema cameras. That could be a disaster for RED owners such as yourself. But Nikon however now has a toehold in the cinema market with the RED purchase, so Nikon now has the incentive to nurture and expand upon what RED does.
What I expect, and I'll admit I'm looking at this through a more optimistic lens, is for RED to basically operate in the same manner, just with Nikon labeling. There will be compromises for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a "baby RED" camera to bridge Nikon Z users over into the RED ecosystem but I think this is a move that can ultimately benefit both RED and Nikon. RED gets access to Nikon's resources to create new stuff and Nikon gets to slap their logo on it. Unfortunately, I do think it also means RED's going to have fewer skulls on their cameras /s.
I am also worried that Nikon will just take the technology and dumb the RED brand. I really hope it keeps going. I also think they kind of have to, RED has so much more industry respect. So I hope that RED becomes to Nikon what Varicam is to Panasonic. So it's a seperate division, but basically a lot of the technology trickles down to the consumer cameras. Also agree with the value in owning a pre-Nikon RED camera. Maybe I'll finally save up for a Dragon now. I guess we will have to see where everything ends up, but I am exciting to see where both Nikon and RED can end up, but I'm maybe a bit too naïve
I hope Nikon don't start patent trolling especially they better don't touch my beloved Blackmagic Design or else Nikon will be on my personal black list the same way Red was.
I think it’s a case of Nikon wanting to be more like Canon and Sony. Each build their own sensors (as far as I’ve been told) and each have their own video and cinema line of gear. So my idea is that Nikon is using this as a means to have their own sensors and their own line of video and cinema gear along with their stills stuff. I don’t think the Red Cine Cameras are going to change much aside from maybe a name change and a new lens mount. I think this is going to affect the aforementioned areas considerably more.
I seriously doubt Nikon can do anything with a RED board. Cinema cameras use way too much power to be used in a Nikon pro camera. Maybe they can use elements of it. I also have my doubts about this acquisition.
What you always see in a market economy is that big corporations are struggling with change. A company with 220 employees was able to develop sensor technology that a company with 26.000 employees couldn't. So in the end Nikon must buy an innovative company like Red or disappear. Same will happen with companies like Toyota etc. They get killed by the management structure dragging their feet for change because pushing change is hardly rewarded in someones career. I agree, I'm not confident that Nikon will make sensible decisions.
I am excited they get a backing of a billion dollar company. Thats a good thing. It'll advance camera tech for everyone.
I do wonder what the future will be for RED? Hopefully some of Nikon's reliability and customer service abilities will rub off onto RED itself? Maybe Nikon's huge manufacturing capabilities will also lead to lower prices for future REDs? Maybe we'll see a sub US$4K Komodo?
A RED camera with the reliability and robustness of a Nikon Z8 but priced the same, would be quite nice.
And it's a *good* thing that a big brand like Nikon who lack a cinema division purchased RED. As if Canon/Sony/ARRI/etc did it, then you could be certain that RED would be fairly quickly shut down (or at the very least gradually wound down). As why on earth would Canon/Sony/ARRI ever want to keep around a direct competitor?? Nope, they'll suck out the bits they want from RED, then shut down the rest so as to focus on their own cinema cameras. That could be a disaster for RED owners such as yourself.
But Nikon however now has a toehold in the cinema market with the RED purchase, so Nikon now has the incentive to nurture and expand upon what RED does.
What I expect, and I'll admit I'm looking at this through a more optimistic lens, is for RED to basically operate in the same manner, just with Nikon labeling. There will be compromises for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with a "baby RED" camera to bridge Nikon Z users over into the RED ecosystem but I think this is a move that can ultimately benefit both RED and Nikon. RED gets access to Nikon's resources to create new stuff and Nikon gets to slap their logo on it. Unfortunately, I do think it also means RED's going to have fewer skulls on their cameras /s.
I am also worried that Nikon will just take the technology and dumb the RED brand. I really hope it keeps going. I also think they kind of have to, RED has so much more industry respect. So I hope that RED becomes to Nikon what Varicam is to Panasonic. So it's a seperate division, but basically a lot of the technology trickles down to the consumer cameras.
Also agree with the value in owning a pre-Nikon RED camera. Maybe I'll finally save up for a Dragon now.
I guess we will have to see where everything ends up, but I am exciting to see where both Nikon and RED can end up, but I'm maybe a bit too naïve
I hope Nikon don't start patent trolling especially they better don't touch my beloved Blackmagic Design or else Nikon will be on my personal black list the same way Red was.
Red already did, that’s why you don’t have compressed raw in Blackmagic anymore.
I think it’s a case of Nikon wanting to be more like Canon and Sony. Each build their own sensors (as far as I’ve been told) and each have their own video and cinema line of gear. So my idea is that Nikon is using this as a means to have their own sensors and their own line of video and cinema gear along with their stills stuff.
I don’t think the Red Cine Cameras are going to change much aside from maybe a name change and a new lens mount. I think this is going to affect the aforementioned areas considerably more.
RED doesn't have a fab, they don't build any sensors whatsoever themselves.
I seriously doubt Nikon can do anything with a RED board. Cinema cameras use way too much power to be used in a Nikon pro camera. Maybe they can use elements of it. I also have my doubts about this acquisition.
What you always see in a market economy is that big corporations are struggling with change. A company with 220 employees was able to develop sensor technology that a company with 26.000 employees couldn't. So in the end Nikon must buy an innovative company like Red or disappear. Same will happen with companies like Toyota etc. They get killed by the management structure dragging their feet for change because pushing change is hardly rewarded in someones career. I agree, I'm not confident that Nikon will make sensible decisions.