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I heard a Rumor that Amazon is going to do a Warhammer Series with Henry Cavill? Has anyone else heard this.. on the plus side, Henry Cavill would be an awesome primarch or really anyone ... on the negative side Amazon did Rings of Power and completely spat on the Tolkien lore.
@@wilkor7643 That gives me hope then. Because I hear he quit the Witcher when the writers decided to crap on the story and tried to introduce modern scio-political BS into the narrative.
Hey Majorkill. Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, The Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Thank you.
I grew up on a world, untouched by our emperor’s holy light and tho I’ve Been a fan of this channel for a while now, I’ve never read a war hammer book or even played the games lol I really like the lore. I’ve finally decided to get into the novels, but there’s soooooo much it’s overwhelming finding a good place to start lol can anyone suggest some good ones to start with, for a noob who only has a basic awareness of the setting, and major factions, from watching major kill UA-cam videos lol I’m Just want a nice place to start that will cover the important shit I need to know and then some fav recommendations for once I’ve got a foothold. Doing my best to not be a heaven, zeno sympathiser scum bag but I’m also worried that my naivety could be taken advantage of by chaos
Commissar Hartman: As soon as you finish your bunks, I want you two turds to clean the head. Guardsman Joker and Cowboy: Sir, aye-aye, sir! Commissar Hartman: I want that head so sanitary and squared away that the God Emperor Himself would be proud to go in there and take a dump! Guardsman Joker and Cowboy: Sir, yes, sir! Commissar Hartman: Guardsman Joker, do you believe in the God Emperor of Mankind? Guardsman Joker: Sir, no... (head explodes from Commissar Harman's bolter gun)
The Thousand Sons rescue a lot of mutans and Psykers from the Imperium, training them to become Sorcerers, Astartes or just actual librarians. Tizca is supposedly an actual metropolis, albeit surreal. They will sacrifice you if they have to, but usually the Thousand Sons are by far one of the best options for Psykers.
i mean if i can expand upon my powers, not get executed and live in a crystal metropolis as a psyker that’s pretty good. might even accompany ahriman to the black library.
But the price for knowledge is high and becoming a sacrifice, a magical experiment or chaos spawn is not uncommon. Demons will still attempt to take your soul. Sorcerers might involve you in their machiavellian power struggles. And Chaos Magic might drive you mad or just twist you into an abomination.
@@serronserron1320 not really. In lore tnzeech don't like his daemons killing those already on his side so he Merks them too. And as a helpful side effect the science allows for more medical knowledge. there is still the off chance you get sacrificed or tricked into being experimented on
@@connormcgehee9349 Thousand sons and Death Guard tend to treat their normal human recruits 'better' than the rest. Death guard sees plague as a gift, and the thousand sons like to recruit more than kill: senseless killing isn't a huge thing for them. The rest actually suck.
This quote is always so funny to me as a long time Street Fighter fan, since Zangief has never been a bad guy, except in the Van Damme movie which is non-canon.
It's not even the positive aspects, it's just the nuance. As a world eaters fan boy it's a bit annoying when every piece of media is just oh they're insane, which is just kinda boring and too one dimensional.
@@Kevc00 Some would say martial honour and pride in ones ability as a warrior is good, some would say they are bad. It's a matter of perspective in that case, although at least martial honour could potentially mean you only seek worthy foes instead of mindlessly butchering everything.
@@inwit594 see that's the kind of nuance I like, less of the pure we love killing kids because that makes us great fighters, and more warriors who fight because they serve the god of war. They fight because it's what they were bred to do. Warriors who's only motivation is to fight. It's different also but much the same. Give more variety and again a bit of nuance to the faction. Generally I just hate when they get the one dimension treatment.
Agree, but yeah khorne is the worst example. Almost all his followers are crazy maniac berzerks. Slaanesh followers make the most sense i think, tzeentch ones are the less chaossy of the lot in my eye, you could have a conversation with a thousand son sorcerer, nurgle too theoritically but you'll die of diseases before that so they are kinda hard to approach...
I've always thought it was weird that the thousand suns are considered the same as the other chaos marines. Ahriman's ritual literally made them immune to the corruption of chaos. So while they are kind of stuck with tzeentch, some of them should be able to break free if they so chose
Or better yet an Adeptus Custodes. Their gene-therapies are implied to be advanced enough to fix whatever is wrong with Ogryn brains. But it would take something very unlikely for them to choose an Ogryn embryo to work with.
Or a thunder warrior. I really want to see the iron warriors try that, and it is not TOO lore wonky. Some ogryn thunderwarriors Frankensteined out added to the iron warriors.
Forget all that; Squat Astartes!!! >XD Salaminimanders!! No Angry marines, just Happy Marines, Sleepy Marines, Dopey Marines, Grumpy Marines, Doc's an apothecary and Sneezy fell to Nurgle!
@@caveychip7510 Oh yes, Rylanor did. But one of Vistario's squad mates used a spell to freeze the bomb in a time warp to contain the explosion. It was only after Vistario saw what a massive creep Fulgrim was, that he thought "Screw it...", and shot his mate in the head, causing the spell to break and the virus bomb to explode.
Reading Dark Imperium atm and it's pretty intrresting how Nurgle infects and takes people over. They aren't even aware of it until they're basically mind controlled and exploding with maggots
"What if one or more Chaos God was defined by their positive traits over their negative" would be a cool video. Either being that way from the start, making a conscious shift in their behaviors,vor altered over eons by their worshippers.
The hat looks good on you. 😉 Imagining Tzeentch as an anti-hero. A trickster who likes to mess around with whomever he wants, but out of mischievous rather than malevolence.
Perhaps the first three chaos gods were weapons made by the old ones to fight the c'tan and necrons. Each one fights at a different scale, and aligned, form a perfect battlefront.
Big true. Imagine the three of them, and all their followers / worshippers completely united. Using all resources in a cohesive manner and letting Ts create the plans while Khorne runs shit down on the battlefield. Nurgle healing any injured and growing more and more armies / champions that are then imbued with power from Khorne. Psykers in the back powered by Ts. I don't think anyone would have much of a chance. Except my lovely Necrons. They'd make them pokemon like they do with all Gods. :)
@@Waishwhw72i19sjx7 that is actually a really good explanation for why the chaos gods seem to be so powerful when they work together. the horus heresy only happened as well as it did because the big three decided that to survive after the great crusade they had to work together and break the leg of the imperium.
Henry Cavill’s new 40k series should be animated by the Astartes animator set in the Great Crusade/ Horus Heresy era with Cavill voicing Constantin Valdor and Charles Dance as the Emperor
I think the best example I can find of this to me is in the Beastslayer book where a Dukes brother(who is secretly a mutant and Tzeentchian follower) tries to have the duke assassinated. But throughout it all he is questioning his motives and reasonings as he genuinely loved his brother and at the last moment he saved his brother and died in turn. Then Gotrek showed up and the assassins lifespan was cut short and the Duke continued to live and lead the following battle.
You forgot Argel-Tal. Arguably, he wasn't given enough time to get properly corrupted. Still, he remained morally mostly good and upright despite having a demon symbiote for a while.
One thing i want to point about the incident between fulgrim and vistaro is that the bomb he allowed to detonate was a virus bomb(which is even more based btw) and not a nuclear one as major kill said. Just want to point that out
Chivalry of Nurgle is actually a relatively prominent thing in Age of Sigmar, btw. A bunch of the Nurgle worshippers in AoS are basically chivalrous, but bloated and diseased knights, who will respect honour and they see their infection-spreading as bringing a kindness into the world. They also oftentimes act like disgusting Bretonnians whereby one prominent Nurglite leader, the Lady of Cankerwall, is somewhat seen as a "Lady of the Lake" equivalent, where Nurgle Knights will go on a pilgrimage to sip on her holy chalice full of Papa Nurgle's disease-juices, so they become fully corrupted Blightkings.
I actually like Chaos a lot more now than the Imperium. The stories are much richer now and we evolve into the reintroduction of the Primarchs. I love the black legion based off the the talons of Horus book series and the new night lord book series, plus I really fucking dig Huron Blackheart now. Though, I’m still a huge Ezekyle fan. Ezekyle deserves more victories, like more world destroying galaxy tearing victories and give Ezekyle the same character profile as in the Black Legion and Talon of Horus or when even in the Siege of Terra series where Ezekyle straight up talked shit to Fulgrim and Angron and the. Cut Angrons feed during a zoom meeting. I loved when he failed the spear tip attack on the palace and got the shit kicked out of him and when he was teleported back to the ship he was pleading “send me back, send me back”. I fell in love with his character at that point. Make the Warmaster kick ass like he is supposed to be! Then kill his ass in an epic doomsday fight and make Huron the next Warmaster!
As someone who did warhammer milsim, playing as a custom slannesh warband called the red crystal aka the meth marines, chaos is chaos good, bad or morally grey, as long as we served their horniness it was all that mattered
Most of us were just methed up physcos who loved to kill anything and anyone, our leader wasn’t inherently evil or good, he just tried to do what was best for us
I myself am making a World eaters warband that follows the predator code of honor which I’m thinking Khorne would be ok with, they go for bigger game such as an imperial knight rather than an old pregnant mother with a broken leg along with her kid with cancer. If I’m correct The great Khorneholio greatly appreciates badass, reckless and self risking actions, he’d be happier seeing a naked berserker charge Guilliman with only his fists than seeing a terminator kill a comatose kid with glass and cardboard for bones using his ridiculously op thunderhammer.
"... nose and ear trimmer I personally don't need (laughter) ...." Well, I didn't needed this too, when I was your age, child, but we will see each other in 10 years, when your fur grows and you constantly ask yourself, why and when you gained like 20 kilograms.
What if they're Demons who serve the Chaos Gods would be converted to serve The Emperor like creating a Chapple of Converted Chaos severance who now serve under you for the Emperors name and will?
I have a Kornite fan character who managed to keep his cool, and actively sends non-combatants back to the imperium only killing the worthy foes who put up a fight. He even gets pissed when someone kills the innocents he sends back to the relative safety of the imperium. However, those who choose to remain become slave labor making food and weapons for the chaos warbands, and end up working in much better conditions with more luxuries than the average imperium citizen and mostly don't have to worry about getting killed since they are all unworthy foes. Additionally, they use these slave populations to recruit new chaos marines who are taught to temper the powers of khorne in a process called the forging.
The character in question is a corrupted wolfen who managed to keep his sense of self when he became a wolfen in order to save his battle brothers, and ended up siding drinking the blood god flavored chaos cool aid to kick the crap out of some of Tzeench's hentai monsters. Unlike other chaos space marines he is under no illusions of his servitude to Khorne, but chooses to stay with Khorne because no matter where he goes he'll end up serving someone and at least Khorne gives him powers and is actively present when compared to the emperor.
I have a theory that the Chaos gods represent the four way a civilisation (not Civilisation with a capital letter, just any civilisation) can end. Wiped out by a plague, conquered/genocided in a war, through its own decadence and depravity, or through change of its key components. The last one is less obvious, as it doesn't necessarily involve people going crazy or dying en masse, but if we define a civilisation by a set of practices (culture, religion, architecture, political system...) it's easier to understand how one can end because one (or more) of these practices is replaced by a different one. Unlike in the other three cases, it's a new civilisation replacing the old one rather than the old civilisation being destroyed, but either way that old civilisation no longer exist as it was initially defined. It's interesting that Tzeentch, who represents change, is the one whose evil is also less definite.
I like to think there is at least 1 chaos warband that doesn't do senseless slaughter or cruelty and is only focused on freeing enslaved or subjugated imperial worlds.
Generally, when you think of Chaos (outside of 40K), you think of someone that goes either way. Good and evil and everything in between. They could slaughter an entire town of people. But then build a ranch for all the pets who's owners they killed. Just wacky and random. That is by definition, Chaos. Randomness and unpredictability.
No mention of the Relictors? a space marine chapter that have made it their mission to use chaos AGAINST chaos. Though, they were declared as traitors and they had to flee into the eye of terror. But who knows, they might still be devoted to the emperor.
Jago sevetar, if you can count him, total legend, it's a bit of a grey area with the night lord's, traitors but are they pledged to chaos? Easily my favourite chapter
This idea has been bouncing around my brain for a bit, but a splinter group of word bearers who worship and spread the positive aspects of chaos would be a really interesting subfaction
Fabius Bile is also sane. He can be considered a champion of Slaanesh because he unintentionally empowers Slaanesh in his obsessive quest to perfect his genetics research and torturing billions of people in the process. If you believe the ends justify the means, then Fabius is good. Since his horrific research may save far more people than it kills.
To put it simply: the Chaos Deities only want to see their own power grow and the others fade away. So, no any who follow them are doom to a fate worse than death. But, I can be wrong and who knows how many space marines, imperial guard, eldar, or other beings of chaos have turned against their masters.
Pawns of Chaos is an older BL title that has both the "chaos " and "Imperial " act in awful but understandable ways, with the chaos side arguably being the more sympathetic.
7:29 tbf though fulgrim was quite slaaneshy then and the thousand sons were quite tzeenchy so it stands to reason that it may have been a boon to tzeeench to jick slaanesh in the balls (however many of them slaanesh has) by kneecapping fulgrim
The chaos gods represent the primordial aspect of the human (or sentient) consciousness in extremes. Khorne represents the primordial desire of the survival of the fittest. Nurgle represent adaptability and sustainability of a species. Tzeentch represents innovation and development of a civilization. Finally, slaanesh represents desire and fulfillment of one's self.
What about that those imperium guard that honour Khorne, the blood pack I think they are called. Also my personally made death guard army go about killing in the name of Nurgle but only to bring life back to otherwise urbanised or overpopulated areas so nature can flourish once more, would that be “ using chaos for good “ or would it depend on your outlook?
I think the problem is with objective definition of good and bad. Take a Pleague Marine that spreads Nurgles Gifts aka Herpatits A to Z for anyone outside it seems pretty evil to infect your local infant clinic with it but the Pleague Marine having said infections himself thinks that they don't hurt him but bring him closer to his god and make him immune to what he persives as a horrible condition people need to be saved from in his eyes he does something good.
One of the first Unification Kings that the Emperor killed actually started out as a priest that rallied his people and prayed for deliverance from the hell that was Age of Strife Terra. One day, his prayers were answered, a “divine” entity gave him the power to preform miracles to protect and grow his tribe. But as his tribe prospered, the more of an appealing target they became to raiders and rivals. To protect his tribe, he beseeched his god for ever greater power, what once could be gained by simple prayer and faith soon required ritual sacrifice to appease his god, and things only escalated from there. Thus did a simple holy man that just wanted to protect his tribe became one of the worst genocidal Priest-Kings of the age. By the time he realized the truth of his power and just exact what he served, the things who’s name he committed countless atrocities in. He was either to far in its clutches or delusional that he still controlled his destiny.
It’s the curve of knowledge- first impression is that all Chaos is evil, after some research you see that it is capable of good, and then once you got it all figured out you go back to the original assumption
Concerning using the dark gods favor and then telling them off; depending on who you ask that is what the Emperor did when he created the primarchs or shortly before that. After all no will is strongerthan his.
Finnaly, you are approaching the subjects I have thought about... If you are ready, I can give you knowledge about the warp and the chaos gods... (at least the one I think might be correct)
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Keeping up with your tit snitch concept I think Iskander Khayon is an example of a mostly good Chaos follower who is also not deluded. I mean in one shorty story he is confronted by autistic grey knights and gives them a chance to be diplomatic and instead they force him to basically dumpster them. He seems like a rather excellent character who is trapped by his circumstances, he does engage in some morally grey behaviours mostly involving his pet dark eldar, over all his entire character is like well im forced to be a nerd living with a bunch of thugs, drug addicts, and veterans with ptsd, might as well make the most of it.
Well, I mean they can be good. If they stick with the good side of Chaos, like honor with Khorne and joy with Slaneesh, and resist the temptations of evil. As an honorable follower of the Blood God, I can attest to the fact that good Chaos worshippers exist. We're just very few and don't get much attention since Chaos feeds stronger on evil aligned emotions rather than positive ones. One evil act equals a hundred good acts, that's why the Chaos Gods are evil as a whole upon first glance.
I do wish they did a little of fleshing out of the chaos factions, I wouldn’t mind seeing them not all be evil monsters all the time, not saying they need to be good, but the best characters to me are often tragic ones or morally ambiguous ones. Random example I can think of is Silco from Arcane, he’s still the villain but by the end of it’s a lot more questionable if he’s actually in the wrong at all. Characters like that add a layer of depth to even the “bad guys” that I think warhammer as a whole lacks, especially in the chaos v imperium department.
To be fair, the Chaos Gods don't require a beginning and end to exist, they existed before their births and if they die, they'll exist after death too. It wouldn't make sense for them to begin when they began, if that makes any sense, which it shouldn't, because you shouldn't understand the birth or existence of gods, to do so is false. They've certainly shifted over time, but that's the nature of Chaos, it's ever shifting, but never ends or begins.
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I heard a Rumor that Amazon is going to do a Warhammer Series with Henry Cavill? Has anyone else heard this.. on the plus side, Henry Cavill would be an awesome primarch or really anyone ... on the negative side Amazon did Rings of Power and completely spat on the Tolkien lore.
@@Grabthar191 Not only he will start he will be an Executive Producer
@@wilkor7643 That gives me hope then. Because I hear he quit the Witcher when the writers decided to crap on the story and tried to introduce modern scio-political BS into the narrative.
Hey Majorkill. Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, The Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Thank you.
I grew up on a world, untouched by our emperor’s holy light and tho I’ve Been a fan of this channel for a while now, I’ve never read a war hammer book or even played the games lol I really like the lore. I’ve finally decided to get into the novels, but there’s soooooo much it’s overwhelming finding a good place to start lol can anyone suggest some good ones to start with, for a noob who only has a basic awareness of the setting, and major factions, from watching major kill UA-cam videos lol I’m
Just want a nice place to start that will cover the important shit I need to know and then some fav recommendations for once I’ve got a foothold.
Doing my best to not be a heaven, zeno sympathiser scum bag but I’m also worried that my naivety could be taken advantage of by chaos
"Anyone who runs is a Chaos worshipper. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined Chaos worshipper." - Inquisitor Tim Colceri
Ha, I'll just slowly walk back and forth. Truly an Emperor-inspired thought.
"Ain't war hell!!" Lol
@@GreyRChan full metal jacket
@@bmorebread8993 huh hate your drill sergeant simulator eh
Commissar Hartman: As soon as you finish your bunks, I want you two turds to clean the head.
Guardsman Joker and Cowboy: Sir, aye-aye, sir!
Commissar Hartman: I want that head so sanitary and squared away that the God Emperor Himself would be proud to go in there and take a dump!
Guardsman Joker and Cowboy: Sir, yes, sir!
Commissar Hartman: Guardsman Joker, do you believe in the God Emperor of Mankind?
Guardsman Joker: Sir, no... (head explodes from Commissar Harman's bolter gun)
The Thousand Sons rescue a lot of mutans and Psykers from the Imperium, training them to become Sorcerers, Astartes or just actual librarians. Tizca is supposedly an actual metropolis, albeit surreal. They will sacrifice you if they have to, but usually the Thousand Sons are by far one of the best options for Psykers.
all well and good till they jam you into a hellbrute
i mean if i can expand upon my powers, not get executed and live in a crystal metropolis as a psyker that’s pretty good. might even accompany ahriman to the black library.
But the price for knowledge is high and becoming a sacrifice, a magical experiment or chaos spawn is not uncommon. Demons will still attempt to take your soul. Sorcerers might involve you in their machiavellian power struggles. And Chaos Magic might drive you mad or just twist you into an abomination.
@@serronserron1320 not really. In lore tnzeech don't like his daemons killing those already on his side so he Merks them too. And as a helpful side effect the science allows for more medical knowledge. there is still the off chance you get sacrificed or tricked into being experimented on
@@connormcgehee9349 Thousand sons and Death Guard tend to treat their normal human recruits 'better' than the rest. Death guard sees plague as a gift, and the thousand sons like to recruit more than kill: senseless killing isn't a huge thing for them. The rest actually suck.
"Just because you're a bad guy doesn't mean you're a bad guy." - some Russian wrestler dude from Wreck-It Ralph movie
Zangief, from street fighter if you wanted to know.
@@RoamingHitbox and his muscles of steel
Zangief from Street fighters
This quote is always so funny to me as a long time Street Fighter fan, since Zangief has never been a bad guy, except in the Van Damme movie which is non-canon.
@@ZoMbi5lAy3r convenient he was so directly regarded as antagonist so much when all he was is just, like
A patriotic citizen of Soviet Russia
I think gw should focus more on the pozitive aspect of chaos gods especially khorne ( you can see how popular is the blood pack)
It's not even the positive aspects, it's just the nuance. As a world eaters fan boy it's a bit annoying when every piece of media is just oh they're insane, which is just kinda boring and too one dimensional.
@@Kevc00 Some would say martial honour and pride in ones ability as a warrior is good, some would say they are bad. It's a matter of perspective in that case, although at least martial honour could potentially mean you only seek worthy foes instead of mindlessly butchering everything.
@@Kevc00 yeah the world eaters definitly need the blood pact treatment
@@inwit594 see that's the kind of nuance I like, less of the pure we love killing kids because that makes us great fighters, and more warriors who fight because they serve the god of war. They fight because it's what they were bred to do. Warriors who's only motivation is to fight. It's different also but much the same. Give more variety and again a bit of nuance to the faction. Generally I just hate when they get the one dimension treatment.
Agree, but yeah khorne is the worst example. Almost all his followers are crazy maniac berzerks. Slaanesh followers make the most sense i think, tzeentch ones are the less chaossy of the lot in my eye, you could have a conversation with a thousand son sorcerer, nurgle too theoritically but you'll die of diseases before that so they are kinda hard to approach...
I've always thought it was weird that the thousand suns are considered the same as the other chaos marines. Ahriman's ritual literally made them immune to the corruption of chaos. So while they are kind of stuck with tzeentch, some of them should be able to break free if they so chose
I thought his spell also made them all autonomous dust housed in power armor
@@BrothaMan831
If I remember correctly, all of the non-psykers became dust constructs. All of the psykers became immune to chaos corruption.
MajorKill, We need a video about what would happen if someone tried to make a Space Marine out of an Ogryn
Or better yet an Adeptus Custodes.
Their gene-therapies are implied to be advanced enough to fix whatever is wrong with Ogryn brains.
But it would take something very unlikely for them to choose an Ogryn embryo to work with.
Or a thunder warrior. I really want to see the iron warriors try that, and it is not TOO lore wonky. Some ogryn thunderwarriors Frankensteined out added to the iron warriors.
Forget all that; Squat Astartes!!! >XD
Salaminimanders!!
No Angry marines, just Happy Marines, Sleepy Marines, Dopey Marines, Grumpy Marines, Doc's an apothecary and Sneezy fell to Nurgle!
@@TheEyez187 leagues of Votann are the closest you will ever see.
@@EsotericDrifter Never considered those; only seen one video about them. Recall them being Hi-Tech, but not low to the deck! :D
I think Tzeentch would have found Visatrio blowing up a Virus Bomb right in Fulgrim's face absolutely hilarious.
Honestly can imagine tzeench let it happen just to tell slaneesh that they chose poorly
Even Magnus would find that funny...might be why he sent his boi's in the first place.
Wait, was rylanor the one who virus bombed fulgrim?
Edit: sorry, forgot about that other gigachad from that scene
@@caveychip7510 Oh yes, Rylanor did. But one of Vistario's squad mates used a spell to freeze the bomb in a time warp to contain the explosion. It was only after Vistario saw what a massive creep Fulgrim was, that he thought "Screw it...", and shot his mate in the head, causing the spell to break and the virus bomb to explode.
Reading Dark Imperium atm and it's pretty intrresting how Nurgle infects and takes people over. They aren't even aware of it until they're basically mind controlled and exploding with maggots
I gotta say Dark Imperium really made me fall in love with Nurgle's Demons. They're so jolly, except Ku'gath who's very grumpy
Maybe someone should make a Chaos army of 50% noise marines and 50% iron warriors... And make them pray to the Gods of Metal
"What if one or more Chaos God was defined by their positive traits over their negative" would be a cool video.
Either being that way from the start, making a conscious shift in their behaviors,vor altered over eons by their worshippers.
Imperial Citizen : "Thank goodness, Space Marines, praise the Emperor, we're saved."
Alpharius : " Saved? More like under new management."
The hat looks good on you. 😉
Imagining Tzeentch as an anti-hero. A trickster who likes to mess around with whomever he wants, but out of mischievous rather than malevolence.
Isn't that spot already taken by Cegorach?
Ya meant a troll
Perhaps the first three chaos gods were weapons made by the old ones to fight the c'tan and necrons. Each one fights at a different scale, and aligned, form a perfect battlefront.
Big true. Imagine the three of them, and all their followers / worshippers completely united. Using all resources in a cohesive manner and letting Ts create the plans while Khorne runs shit down on the battlefield. Nurgle healing any injured and growing more and more armies / champions that are then imbued with power from Khorne. Psykers in the back powered by Ts. I don't think anyone would have much of a chance.
Except my lovely Necrons. They'd make them pokemon like they do with all Gods. :)
@@Waishwhw72i19sjx7 that is actually a really good explanation for why the chaos gods seem to be so powerful when they work together. the horus heresy only happened as well as it did because the big three decided that to survive after the great crusade they had to work together and break the leg of the imperium.
Henry Cavill’s new 40k series should be animated by the Astartes animator set in the Great Crusade/ Horus Heresy era with Cavill voicing Constantin Valdor and Charles Dance as the Emperor
Charles Dance would make a better Malcador
I think the best example I can find of this to me is in the Beastslayer book where a Dukes brother(who is secretly a mutant and Tzeentchian follower) tries to have the duke assassinated. But throughout it all he is questioning his motives and reasonings as he genuinely loved his brother and at the last moment he saved his brother and died in turn. Then Gotrek showed up and the assassins lifespan was cut short and the Duke continued to live and lead the following battle.
You forgot Argel-Tal. Arguably, he wasn't given enough time to get properly corrupted. Still, he remained morally mostly good and upright despite having a demon symbiote for a while.
Tit Snitch is the funniest pronunciation I’ve heard yet
I was so fucking confused when he started saying that xD
One thing i want to point about the incident between fulgrim and vistaro is that the bomb he allowed to detonate was a virus bomb(which is even more based btw) and not a nuclear one as major kill said. Just want to point that out
To be fair... The Night-Lords were skinning babies before 'falling to Chaos'
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Chivalry of Nurgle is actually a relatively prominent thing in Age of Sigmar, btw. A bunch of the Nurgle worshippers in AoS are basically chivalrous, but bloated and diseased knights, who will respect honour and they see their infection-spreading as bringing a kindness into the world. They also oftentimes act like disgusting Bretonnians whereby one prominent Nurglite leader, the Lady of Cankerwall, is somewhat seen as a "Lady of the Lake" equivalent, where Nurgle Knights will go on a pilgrimage to sip on her holy chalice full of Papa Nurgle's disease-juices, so they become fully corrupted Blightkings.
I actually like Chaos a lot more now than the Imperium. The stories are much richer now and we evolve into the reintroduction of the Primarchs. I love the black legion based off the the talons of Horus book series and the new night lord book series, plus I really fucking dig Huron Blackheart now. Though, I’m still a huge Ezekyle fan. Ezekyle deserves more victories, like more world destroying galaxy tearing victories and give Ezekyle the same character profile as in the Black Legion and Talon of Horus or when even in the Siege of Terra series where Ezekyle straight up talked shit to Fulgrim and Angron and the. Cut Angrons feed during a zoom meeting. I loved when he failed the spear tip attack on the palace and got the shit kicked out of him and when he was teleported back to the ship he was pleading “send me back, send me back”. I fell in love with his character at that point. Make the Warmaster kick ass like he is supposed to be! Then kill his ass in an epic doomsday fight and make Huron the next Warmaster!
As someone who did warhammer milsim, playing as a custom slannesh warband called the red crystal aka the meth marines, chaos is chaos good, bad or morally grey, as long as we served their horniness it was all that mattered
Most of us were just methed up physcos who loved to kill anything and anyone, our leader wasn’t inherently evil or good, he just tried to do what was best for us
I myself am making a World eaters warband that follows the predator code of honor which I’m thinking Khorne would be ok with, they go for bigger game such as an imperial knight rather than an old pregnant mother with a broken leg along with her kid with cancer.
If I’m correct The great Khorneholio greatly appreciates badass, reckless and self risking actions, he’d be happier seeing a naked berserker charge Guilliman with only his fists than seeing a terminator kill a comatose kid with glass and cardboard for bones using his ridiculously op thunderhammer.
@@greatgatsby0174 probs, I mean take skarbrand for example, the only reason khorne was mad at him was because Skarbrand attacked him from behind
@@greatgatsby0174 Khorne is the Chaos god of honor and courage, too.
@@stevenschnepp576 Yeah I’m aware, that’s why they have that code of honor.
"... nose and ear trimmer I personally don't need (laughter) ...."
Well, I didn't needed this too, when I was your age, child, but we will see each other in 10 years, when your fur grows and you constantly ask yourself, why and when you gained like 20 kilograms.
06:17 it's Cymar Xydia of the White consuls chapter and Vorx of the Lords of Silence warband if anyone's interested
If your answer is anything other than "yes" you can join them in the brick wall staring contest.
Can you making a video on the different harlequin masks?
the emperor is disappointed, "are there any good heretics?" yes, there are. DEAD HERETICS.
What if they're Demons who serve the Chaos Gods would be converted to serve The Emperor like creating a Chapple of Converted Chaos severance who now serve under you for the Emperors name and will?
The title is like saying getting burned is it gonna hurt I mean sure from you’re finger 1 second burn to full on cremation
I have a Kornite fan character who managed to keep his cool, and actively sends non-combatants back to the imperium only killing the worthy foes who put up a fight. He even gets pissed when someone kills the innocents he sends back to the relative safety of the imperium. However, those who choose to remain become slave labor making food and weapons for the chaos warbands, and end up working in much better conditions with more luxuries than the average imperium citizen and mostly don't have to worry about getting killed since they are all unworthy foes. Additionally, they use these slave populations to recruit new chaos marines who are taught to temper the powers of khorne in a process called the forging.
The character in question is a corrupted wolfen who managed to keep his sense of self when he became a wolfen in order to save his battle brothers, and ended up siding drinking the blood god flavored chaos cool aid to kick the crap out of some of Tzeench's hentai monsters. Unlike other chaos space marines he is under no illusions of his servitude to Khorne, but chooses to stay with Khorne because no matter where he goes he'll end up serving someone and at least Khorne gives him powers and is actively present when compared to the emperor.
I have a theory that the Chaos gods represent the four way a civilisation (not Civilisation with a capital letter, just any civilisation) can end. Wiped out by a plague, conquered/genocided in a war, through its own decadence and depravity, or through change of its key components.
The last one is less obvious, as it doesn't necessarily involve people going crazy or dying en masse, but if we define a civilisation by a set of practices (culture, religion, architecture, political system...) it's easier to understand how one can end because one (or more) of these practices is replaced by a different one. Unlike in the other three cases, it's a new civilisation replacing the old one rather than the old civilisation being destroyed, but either way that old civilisation no longer exist as it was initially defined. It's interesting that Tzeentch, who represents change, is the one whose evil is also less definite.
Took me few moments to realize that Tit-snich is Tzeentch, not Slaanesh as TIT-SNITCH like describes Slaanesh prety well😄
I like to think there is at least 1 chaos warband that doesn't do senseless slaughter or cruelty and is only focused on freeing enslaved or subjugated imperial worlds.
Generally, when you think of Chaos (outside of 40K), you think of someone that goes either way. Good and evil and everything in between. They could slaughter an entire town of people. But then build a ranch for all the pets who's owners they killed. Just wacky and random. That is by definition, Chaos. Randomness and unpredictability.
Manscaped.
The one shaver both Imperium and Chaos agree upon.
The Inquisition quietly let's that slip.
I’ve always said Plague Marines are basically Chaos Salamanders so even though their twisted they think they’re good
In old lore khorne used to send his daemons to kill any warrior who called his name while murdering defenseless people
No mention of the Relictors? a space marine chapter that have made it their mission to use chaos AGAINST chaos. Though, they were declared as traitors and they had to flee into the eye of terror. But who knows, they might still be devoted to the emperor.
Jago sevetar, if you can count him, total legend, it's a bit of a grey area with the night lord's, traitors but are they pledged to chaos? Easily my favourite chapter
Tits snitch sounds like that messed up person who tells your significant other that you have been fooling around 😂
This idea has been bouncing around my brain for a bit, but a splinter group of word bearers who worship and spread the positive aspects of chaos would be a really interesting subfaction
Fabius Bile is also sane. He can be considered a champion of Slaanesh because he unintentionally empowers Slaanesh in his obsessive quest to perfect his genetics research and torturing billions of people in the process.
If you believe the ends justify the means, then Fabius is good. Since his horrific research may save far more people than it kills.
To put it simply: the Chaos Deities only want to see their own power grow and the others fade away. So, no any who follow them are doom to a fate worse than death. But, I can be wrong and who knows how many space marines, imperial guard, eldar, or other beings of chaos have turned against their masters.
Pawns of Chaos is an older BL title that has both the "chaos " and "Imperial " act in awful but understandable ways, with the chaos side arguably being the more sympathetic.
7:29 tbf though fulgrim was quite slaaneshy then and the thousand sons were quite tzeenchy so it stands to reason that it may have been a boon to tzeeench to jick slaanesh in the balls (however many of them slaanesh has) by kneecapping fulgrim
Question: can an Undivided aspirant teeter between two Patrons without getting wrecked? Or does worship need to be divided four ways?
A video on olanius and John gramaticus would be cool
I think overall Argel Tal staid pretty moral. He was loyal to his friends and didn't let Raum consume his humanity.
To answer the title in the thumbnail, only the dead ones.
Thousand Sons seem more stable and level headed than the Imperium. They definitely give Psykers a better deal.
The answer to your question? Yes. The dead ones.
Yes Inquisitor, this video right here.
Am I tripping, or is he really calling Tzeentch "Tit Snitch"?
The chaos gods represent the primordial aspect of the human (or sentient) consciousness in extremes.
Khorne represents the primordial desire of the survival of the fittest.
Nurgle represent adaptability and sustainability of a species.
Tzeentch represents innovation and development of a civilization.
Finally, slaanesh represents desire and fulfillment of one's self.
What about that those imperium guard that honour Khorne, the blood pack I think they are called. Also my personally made death guard army go about killing in the name of Nurgle but only to bring life back to otherwise urbanised or overpopulated areas so nature can flourish once more, would that be “ using chaos for good “ or would it depend on your outlook?
ALL KNEEL FOR THE WARMASTER HORUS THE TRUE MASTER OF MANKIND !!! Henry Cavill starting in Warhammer movie or show so fucking excited!!!
On Amazon... Yeah. They did well with The Boys but I'm having doubts with 40K.
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Can we get a video about all the first captain’s during the Horus Heresy? Like how they became first captain, and what gear they rocked.
I think the problem is with objective definition of good and bad.
Take a Pleague Marine that spreads Nurgles Gifts aka Herpatits A to Z for anyone outside it seems pretty evil to infect your local infant clinic with it but the Pleague Marine having said infections himself thinks that they don't hurt him but bring him closer to his god and make him immune to what he persives as a horrible condition people need to be saved from in his eyes he does something good.
Video on all the elder gods and why they were created by the old ones
Surprised Argel Tal wasn't raised in this
I love your video dude and I got 1 of your signed calendars
What about the silver night the space marine who resisted all 9 realms of slaaebsh and almost killed her
Then the slver knight immediately fell to slanessh bcz the Prince had turned into a xhild and the Knight hesitated
One of the first Unification Kings that the Emperor killed actually started out as a priest that rallied his people and prayed for deliverance from the hell that was Age of Strife Terra. One day, his prayers were answered, a “divine” entity gave him the power to preform miracles to protect and grow his tribe. But as his tribe prospered, the more of an appealing target they became to raiders and rivals. To protect his tribe, he beseeched his god for ever greater power, what once could be gained by simple prayer and faith soon required ritual sacrifice to appease his god, and things only escalated from there. Thus did a simple holy man that just wanted to protect his tribe became one of the worst genocidal Priest-Kings of the age. By the time he realized the truth of his power and just exact what he served, the things who’s name he committed countless atrocities in. He was either to far in its clutches or delusional that he still controlled his destiny.
Nurgle guys "death guard": "they just need to be cleansed"
Video idea: What is the dumbest thing each Primarch has ever done
It’s the curve of knowledge- first impression is that all Chaos is evil, after some research you see that it is capable of good, and then once you got it all figured out you go back to the original assumption
Concerning using the dark gods favor and then telling them off;
depending on who you ask that is what the Emperor did when he created the primarchs or shortly before that.
After all no will is strongerthan his.
Ok are we going to ignore the fact he kept say "TiT-Snitch" and not "Zeenche"
Bruh....
thank you
Yes Inquisitor. This man
One person id like to mention is Cyrene Valention, confessor of the word bearers. She seems like a decent chaos worshipper
Finnaly, you are approaching the subjects I have thought about... If you are ready, I can give you knowledge about the warp and the chaos gods... (at least the one I think might be correct)
Be gone, Chaos!
love this content been tuning into videos for the past few years and your stuff only gets better and better keep it up Major!
6:17 where is this story from? Who is that bad ass Nurgle Marine who buried the Marine bodies when he killed them?
If I was reborn in the 40k universe I would like to be the son of khorne.
So is it possible to make a order god by driving millions of human through the warp without shields?
Anything that's not a yes, is heresy
Great topic today, MajorKill. Keep it up
Rylanor is the giga-chad dreadnought
HERESY!
Anyway, good question.
*Grabs popcorn*
Hey Major, left some shit in my check out bin man. I'll get back over there and checkout shortly. Fell on some hard times with holidays, but wanted to give you heads up. Take care mate.
You should do Majorkill pop sockets
The only good heretic, is a burnt heretic.
That promo really going out to the "and gal" part of your audience. Sorry chief, but there's no way I'm getting the homies a ball razor for christmas.
Keeping up with your tit snitch concept I think Iskander Khayon is an example of a mostly good Chaos follower who is also not deluded. I mean in one shorty story he is confronted by autistic grey knights and gives them a chance to be diplomatic and instead they force him to basically dumpster them. He seems like a rather excellent character who is trapped by his circumstances, he does engage in some morally grey behaviours mostly involving his pet dark eldar, over all his entire character is like well im forced to be a nerd living with a bunch of thugs, drug addicts, and veterans with ptsd, might as well make the most of it.
you miss Liliean Chase and Zygmunt Moloch, they were good chaos lads
Fair tbh
Good Heretics?
ASMODAI! MAKE HIM REPENT.
Yes, Inquisitor, this man right here!
Well, I mean they can be good. If they stick with the good side of Chaos, like honor with Khorne and joy with Slaneesh, and resist the temptations of evil. As an honorable follower of the Blood God, I can attest to the fact that good Chaos worshippers exist. We're just very few and don't get much attention since Chaos feeds stronger on evil aligned emotions rather than positive ones. One evil act equals a hundred good acts, that's why the Chaos Gods are evil as a whole upon first glance.
I do wish they did a little of fleshing out of the chaos factions, I wouldn’t mind seeing them not all be evil monsters all the time, not saying they need to be good, but the best characters to me are often tragic ones or morally ambiguous ones. Random example I can think of is Silco from Arcane, he’s still the villain but by the end of it’s a lot more questionable if he’s actually in the wrong at all. Characters like that add a layer of depth to even the “bad guys” that I think warhammer as a whole lacks, especially in the chaos v imperium department.
Khayon the Black is a pretty swell dude
Hey majorkill are we gonna get any more darktide or was that livestream it?
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!
To be fair, the Chaos Gods don't require a beginning and end to exist, they existed before their births and if they die, they'll exist after death too. It wouldn't make sense for them to begin when they began, if that makes any sense, which it shouldn't, because you shouldn't understand the birth or existence of gods, to do so is false. They've certainly shifted over time, but that's the nature of Chaos, it's ever shifting, but never ends or begins.
🤔That Time Alpha Legion is maybye Chaos?
Or my Favorite is Logan Grimnars Axe of Morkai(Somehow it's a Chaos weapon that he can use)
Majorkill we would all love to know which story and character should Henry be playing
As a crimson slaughter fan we’re not that evil we’re just insane and haunted by the voices of those we murdered completely by accident :D