Ultimate ADV Tire Review | Ep1 Motoz Monday | Tractionator Adventure - RallZ - Desert H/T - GPS
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- So... I have been riding Motoz Tires for 10 Years and here are my thoughts on ALL of their ADV Tires and what type or ride each of their tyre's are best used for...
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I was introduced to the Motoz Tractionator Desert H/T in 2011 and used that tire exclusively until 2016 when I was asked to "test" the Tractionator Adventure Tire. 5k miles later... the Adventure Tire became my Go-To tire. The Tractionator GPS tire was released in 2017 and it was intended for more of the GS crowd... but the line has significantly expanded. In 2018 my "New Favorite" tire was created and released... the Tractionator RallZ. These tires are made of a mixture of All Natural Rubber and synthetic materials such as Silica to make the longest lasting, best performing Adventure Tires available. I have videos on most of these tires... but I wanted to put together a summary video answering my most frequently asked questions.
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Tractionator desert was the worst rear tire i had. Short life and offroad grip compared to mitas e07. Hated it.
Mitas e09 hooked up better and lived way longer.
I now wanna try for my AT with lot of fast on road riding adventure front and gps rear ;
It is interesting that you and I had exact opposite experiences. On the AT I did really lik the e07 but on my KTM 1190 it was sketchy. The GPS is a great 50/50 tire.
Hey Kyle ,que me conseille tu pour une ktm EXC f 500 2022 pour un usage 80% route de montagne sec et humide 20% de chemins sec ,merci 😎
RallZ in the rear and Dual Venture up front.
Worth mentioning the GPS tires are 50/50 or 60/40 if flipped to ‘mostly off road’. So all these tires cover 50, 60, 70, 80, and 90 off road.
Yes Sir! The flip of the GPS is important. It’s fully covered in the GPS specific video. Hindsight, I probably should have mentioned in more depth here.
Hi Kyle, I am running the RallZ on my KTM 890r based on your recommendation and they are perfect for the type of riding I do. The improvement over the TKC80s (still had 50% when I swapped) in off road traction is incredible. I do have some road noise associated with primarily the front tire, but it is a non issue for me. Especially considering the off road prowess and very good on road manners. To the UA-cam community, I purchased these tires from Kyle; and would recommend that to anyone!
Great to hear Keith! Thank you for your support. Yes, they can be "louder" than some but they WORK and that I what I like about them.
I need some advise; SInce 2017 I been running (Yamaha Super Tenere 1200) Motoz Tractionator Adventure's on the rear and am very happy with the performance of that tire. I get 3500 miles out of that tire with ease vs less then 1000 miles with a TKC80 rear. This is combined On and Off road. However, I still kept the TKC80 for the front and also get about the same 3500 miles out of that. Reason to keep the TKC80 front is because of its perfect performance during rain on wet asphalt in near freezing temps. In those conditions I can feel the Motoz ADV slipping and skipping but the TKC80 front NEVER missed a beat. Now, I can't seem to find the TKC80 front anymore. Which Motoz tire could replace that? Has that same soft compound giving it that sticky performance on road during cold and possibly wet weather while never holding me back offroad? Thank you.
You have bees running the same combo as many other Adv riders! I'd say the Metzeler Karoo 4 up front is one of the best wet weather tires I've run. The new Mitas Enduro Trail XT+ (non-Dakar) is good too. The Motoz match would be the Dual Venture. Hope this helps!
HI, Kyle I hope you are well, las time I asked you a suggestion on which how tire I must to buy form my KTM 390 adventure comparing TKC 80 Vs Mitas E-10, now let me telle you you was right about mitas E-10, First I put the rear E-10 mitas on my BIKE and I could see the great job Mitas works on muy bike talking about Off Road. I'm Very happy with Mitas E-10, but looking for the future 2023 I'm considering MOTZ tractionator Adventure or rally Desert, Dou you think MOTOZ could be a better replacement ??
The RallZ tire is fantastic! You’ll love it!
Hi again. Do you have any idea why the rear GPS is cutting in between the grooves on my 1250? 2 rear tyres in a row. 😢 Have you experienced or have seen this among your customers? Thank in advance
Interesting… I saw this years ago on the Yamaha Tenere 1200. The wheel was too narrow for the tire. I’ve also seen it in very low pressure situations. Send pics to my IG so I can have a look please.
Anyone have death wobble issues with the adventure tire? We have rain grooves in Calif freeways and I have been getting shimmies, but today I got a mild death wobble. I read something that the issues are with the rain grooves.
I basically softened my grip and let the bike find equilibrium. It was not pleasant to say the least.
Yes, this is an issue people have had. I didn't have it on the Adv front, but many did. They discontinued it two years ago and released the Dual Venture front tire.
Best tire reviews on UA-cam ever!
Working at it... Thanks for watching.
How do these work for lighter duel sport. I have a 2020 XR 650L
Amazing in the correct sizes! I’ve run them on the 300L with great success
do you have a table of results posted that rates street performance and offroad performance and longevity
Thanks for your inquiry. No, that I do not. It’d be good to put together though ;)
Went from Eliz ni to Athens ga 2500miles round trip on desert ht tires and I still have a lot left
They work well and last a long time!
Hi Kyle - been following you for a couple of years and I must applaud your effort and in Depth reviews. (VERY helpful for myself and those I ride with). -------- For my type of Use (70 On Road/30 Off Road) I am sold on the Durability and Grip of MOT Oz GPS and Adventure rears. (Most Likely I´d Pair either with a Moto Oz Adventure Front on my New Africa Twin DCT) *BUT* Here´s my question - I encounter Rain and Wet Patches on Tight Turns a lot down here in the Andes - How good are the Adventure & GPS vs say a TKC 70 in the On Road Wet ?? Or a Michelin Anakee Adventure (Which I have trusted & enjoyed on my previous Bike (Moto Guzzi V85TT). Many Thanks for your Feedback!
Thanks for reaching out. The Motoz are my favorites, but the TKC70 is a better wet weather tire. A compromise between the two would be the Karoo 4. Fantastic wet weather tires.
@@manybikes Thanks. And Happy New year!!
Can the adventure tire or rally tire be used on a lightweight dual sport bike?
Yes, 100%! The smaller dual sport bikes will have smaller sizes which are MUCH lighter in weight and smaller in size. The lugs are further apart too and they work GREAT!
Thanks for sorting out all the models and doing a great job of explaining the differences!
Glad it was helpful!
Does the Motoz Tractionator Adventure front tire for the KTM 890 Adventure (90/90-21) only come as a tube-type tire?
There is a tubeless version but I’d recommend the Dual Venture instead, it’s great
@@manybikes thanks! I purchased the Dual Venture and put it on my 890 Adventure. Rode it for 200 miles with a mix of asphalt and forest service roads a week ago. It worked great in both environments. I was actually impressed with how good it was on the highway.
I was going to message you on what tire to replace the Scorpions with on the ATAS. Nevermind, Question answered, Thanks KB
Awesome!
Love the Rallz's on my 790 AdvR though I hate to see them go to waste on bitumen. Could you do a side by side offroad comparison between the Rallz and Adventure and GPS to see exactly how you gain/lose from each tyre in varying terrain. By side by side I mean, same bike, say day, same rider, same tracks, same lines. I reckon that will help a lot of viewers trying to decide which best suits them in real world conditions.
I do have content of all three tires on the same exact tracks / surfaces with me as the rider. Different bike though... and different days. I'll see what I can stitch together.
FYI - Motoz Container Update: ua-cam.com/video/LqX6xqd6Glg/v-deo.html
Hey Kyle, I started watching your videos early last year when I had decided to trade my Tuono for a Tiger 900. I really did not know squat about adventure riding and the gear associated with it. I bought a set of AX41's for the Tiger after watching your reviews and they are amazing compared to the stock 90/10 A41's. This year I bought a CRF 300 Rally and I've been out in the Florida forests nearly every week. I LOVE this Honda but the stock IRC's are twitchy as hell in deep sand and useless in mud, both of which we have in Central Florida in abundance. I'm going to switch to the RallZ's even though they are sized slightly larger but still listed as compatible.
Thanks again for all the info you share, it's been hugely beneficial for my learning curve !! One question, is Motocity a new name for Chaparral or a different company ?
Thank you for taking time to comment and to share our story. LOVE IT! That 300 Rally is amazing and I really want an opportunity to ride it an do a review of it. We have not seen one here yet... Are you in love with it? Chaparral is Chaparral... they laid off the video team in March of 2020. I have been on my own doing contract work up until Feb of this year when I came on Full Time here in Arizona at a small family owned dealership. It's a fun gig. I would recommend the Desert H/T on the CRF due to it's size and weight. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/rVnT0dl04UA/v-deo.html When you are ready to purchase, please shop here first: www.motocityparts.com/category/22653/adventure-tires Another tire I would recommend for the forest / sand is the The MOTOZ Tractionator Enduro S/T (soft terrain) has been designed to give aggressive traction in soft terrain with longer wear than regular soft terrain tires. It features MX grip with Enduro strength and wear. Motoz says (I HAVE NOT TESTED) it is the right choice for maximum traction in mud and extreme conditions. Designed for riders who want the grip of an MX tire and a tough carcass for off-road with better resistance to punctures and pinch flats. Excellent for all weather in soft/varied applications.
Hybrid Natural/Synthetic compound is unique in its ability to give long wear in a soft terrain tire, but good on road grip. Check it out here:
www.motocityparts.com/product/193966/motoz-tractionator-enduro-s-t-dot Thanks for your support. - Kyle
Is there a road noise difference between the front Rallz and the Adventure? I'm running a Dsport rear+front on my DR650, and the front is extraordinarily loud. I previously ran Shinko front + D606 rear, and loved it, but so far the Tusk feels like a D606 but with twice the mileage. Looking for that unicorn...I'm planning on going Dsport rear + Rallz front (or MT21)
I would try the new Dual Venture front tire from Motoz. It is a ground up front tire that is "reversible" so you can swap it when it starts to wear. Its along the lines of an MT21 and works great. I have run 3 of the fronts on three different bikes and have gotten over 7k miles from each of the tires.
@@manybikes Sweet! Thank you
@@GoodkatNW yes sir!
I need a 50/50 for my 2018 road King
Awesome! That is a tough size to fit...
Will the desert fit a 6x17 rim. Ready to buy just don't know if they will fit..
The 170/60B17 TL DOT ECER75 Rear 72 Q is for a 5.5 inch rim.
Thanks. I'm looking for a offroad tire. For my solid rim setup after blowing out My spokes with a tree branch.. than swap my standard for normal roads
Hi Kyle, regarding this tyre is there any for a Wr450f Yamaha 2018 ?thanks
Yes Sir! Either the RallZ or the Desert HT would be my recommendation.
@@manybikes ok, thanks for info
Can we order through/from you?
Yes you can! www.Manybikes.biz is my site. Thanks for your support.
Hi Kyle, love your easy-to-understand in-depth reviews. I ride a 2014 F 700 GS in Australia and have run the GPS, the Tractionator Adventure, and the RallZ. With the last 2 front Tractionator Adventure tires, the center blocks wear down looking like a wedge or chisel. What would be the cause for kind of this wear? Currently, I'm running GPS rear with Dunlop trail max Mission front as I've had a lot of sealed road use to do of late with the odd bit of dirt, but soon to head out bush again with the Tractionator Adventure.
Thanks for your support! The Tractionator Adventure front tires have been known to wear that way, as most knobby front tires do. The wear is exaggerated if lower pressures are run. It’s caused from front breaking the block rolls and the trailing edge wears down. Now… Motoz has a new front tire which is reversible! Every 3k or so miles you can flip it and after about 500 miles you have newish tire traction. Pretty impressive. Check it out: A Reversible Adv Tire! Motoz Tractionator Dual Venture Tire 3k Mile Review | Ep14 Motoz Monday
ua-cam.com/video/27SpF6NufXs/v-deo.html
Are you still associated with chaparral motors? Why are you with Moto City now? I want to buy some tires.
Thanks for the inquiry. Zero affiliation with Chaparral since March of 2020. They laid 150 of us off when the rumor of Covid hit.. Pretty sad. I have built the site www.MotoCityParts.com so as to be able to continue to sell tires and other Moto Related items. I'd love your support there. Thanks! Remember to use coupon MOTOZ for Free Shipping on a set of tires. Thanks for your support. - Kyle
Here is the tire size conversation with the T7 being shown.
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So I want to put the tractionator adventure 90/90 21 and 130/80 17 on my Dr650, do these tyres only run tubeless? Anyone?
You will want the Tube Type tire for your DR650.
@@manybikes is there a tube option? I only see them in tubeless...
@@BadgerMcblasty the 130/80-18 is only available in Tubeless but you’ll add a tube. The 90/90-21 Tube Type is here: Tractionator Adventure - DOT
Item: 14-090-090-21TT | Mfg #: 14-090-090-21TT
Size: 90/90-21TT
How about tires for ADV’s in the 250cc range?? (Everything you do is for big bikes!)
Well, the 250cc and 450cc range is typically referred to as a Dual Sport motorcycle and their tire requirements are much different. The new ADV tires are made in Dual Sport sizes and are much lighter than the big ADV brothers. What type of riding are you doing?
@@manybikes dual sport riding… 60% on road 40% on dirt gravel roads… No single tracks! Just need an advocate for our type of bikes and what options we have which are very limited. Just bought a set of Shinko 705s which I think will work fine. But also all tires need to be tube type… Which also throws a wrench in our works. Any advice you can share is greatly appreciated by my kind!
I love the Motoz Rallz on the smaller DS bikes. In your sizes they are tube type and really light. They last like iron, dig like claws in the dirt and are smooth on the highway. Looking at doing some dual sport tire testing here in the near future. Thanks for your support.
Do you have a 50/50 in a 180/55B/18
Wow! That is an interesting tire size! What is it going on?
Great idea! I was looking for something like this. Thanks for putting in the effort once more, and glad to see you still have fun with it. I"ll be following this!
Thanks for watching! Just a little more info about each of the tires specifically. Good times as always.
Are you not with chaparral anymore?
NOPE. Not since March of 2020. ZERO video from them until recently, and it was a sad production. Sadly Chap Laid off about 150 employees when Covid Hit March of 2020. The video team was the first to go... I freelanced for a year and am now here at MotoCity in Arizona.
@@manybikes that's sad to hear, I enjoyed your tire tests and still re watch them,currently looking for a 50/50 for my klr in Montana lol,
Well I am still pumping them out.... and I can sell you any tire you want at the same or better price than Chap... So see me first please! Is there anything special you'd like to see?
@@manybikes I'd like to see more tire tests on some of the lighter weight bikes like the klr,Yamaha t7 and of that sorts. Your videos are great but I am wanting a tire tat goes large gravel and paved roads well that don't burn off in 3-4 k miles.alot of the roads up here I ride are 3/4" or larger gravel or straight shale
Once again great info! Primarily on your advice I've ran (KTM 1090r) the Desert HT which was AMAZING through Tennessee clay, mud & rotten leaf compost carpets. It pulls through the worst like the tracks of a dozer! Again on your advice, the Tractionator ADV, wow that tire was the best all around tire (street - dirt) I've ridden TN. The Michelin Anakee Wild beat it everywhere except in longevity. The Motoz ADV & the Desert HT on Tennessee hard packed "chirt" roads (dirt & sand mix) both have one minor personality quirk in that transitioning from the center to the outer blocks there is this momentary disconnect (on the back tires only). Annoying at first but always, always trustworthy! After a while you just get use to it and its part of the ride. I've come to you for advise EVERYTIME I've bought tires and then I went & bought my tires from suppliers close to TN. Often getting my tires in two days or even next day free delivery. I appreciate what you do to the point that I will be buying all my tires from you going forward and waiting patiently and extra day or days to get them. This the best way I can think of saying thank you for what you do! ... Yep, I'm due for a new back and I am torn wanting to try out the new Dunlop Trailmax Mission's (but MUD!) & knowing that Motoz ADV will work well with the next few thousand miles I'm heading to ... FRONT TIRE: On your advice again the Motoz Tractionator Rallz are it! No matter what I run out back this tire is just perfect in the front for everything I ask from it!!!! Thanks Kyle
Thank you for your support David, I really appreciate it. The Motoz tires are really well made... and I do struggle when followers ask about my choice between the Wild and the Motoz: For me the Anakee Wild wears out 2x faster than the Adventure. The Wild feels like riding on a cloud for the first 1k miles or so due to the sipped lug sidewalls which are built to flex. I love the feedback from the road due to the soft sidewalls, it is a great tire. The Motoz Adventure is in my opinion / experience a more robust tire than the Michelin and is smoother on the highway and lasts longer with very similar off-road performance. Honestly they are my top two... with the AX41 rounding out the 3rd. But it wears out 2x faster than the Wild!!! Motoz is the balance between performance and longevity. Motoz is running into a shortage at the moment... TWO containers arrived this week without your 150/70-18 ... so it will be about 4 weeks until they are back in stock. We sold through or stock yesterday morning within 2 hours of this video being launched. Thank man, I appreciate you. - Kyle
@@manybikes HA, telling me they are out of stock for a month makes me want it LOL! Agreed with all the above. As far as I can tell you don't get to ride TN, AL, KY, AR, MS so much (the clay and mud here is like peanut butter mixed with olive oil) and yet you still hit the bullseye in your answer! - Those Motoz Tractionator ADV's are just near perfectly suited for this region. Thanks!
@@davidbaird2063 Ha! Ha! I’ve ridden a bunch in TN… but that’s it from your list. I found TN to be a lot like CT as well! Snotty! Now I’m in the desert!
G’day Kyle, cheers from Australia.
I would like your opinion on comparison of Motoz GPS & Dunlop Trailmax Mission tyres as they both claim to be 50/50 tyres. As I’ll be fitting one set of these to my r1200gsA 2016.
Thank bud 👍
I need to get a set of the TrailMax Mission tires ordered in so I can do your comparison. I have noted it and will work on it! Thanks for the recommendation.
Hey Keith
Love your videos
I ride a triumph tiger
Do mostly road riding and very less off road riding
Was confused which one to choose between Michelin Anakee adventure and the Metz Karoo street
Would like to know which one would you recommend
Thx
Hey there! Thanks for watching. It’s Kyle by the way… Keith is a cool guy too… I’d suggest the Continental TKC70 or the Karoo Street or the Anakee Adventure. In that order from “more off-road friendly” to less… all perform great on the street… but the dirt performance is very different.
Hey what do you suggest for a winter commuter tire? The shinko 705's seem like the choice but the range of the life span of the motoz's are amazing for miles used.
Commuter & offroad fun.
The Shinko 705 look good when first glancing at the price tag. Then you count the fact that you will need to replace them 2x or 3x to every set of Motoz... the "cheap tire" ends up being more expensive. The Motoz GPS tire will roll 12k miles. I have never seen a Shinko get 1/2 that.
@Kyle Bradshaw the issue I've been told about the motoz is they are very hard rubber & nearly impossible to warm up in snow
@@houjous5131 nothing is going to “warm up” in the snow! The GPS is more similar to the 705 as far as aggressiveness goes. It’s got silica in it to help perform in the wet. That being said, I love the Rallz / Dual Venture combo.
Hi Kyle, I was running the K-60 scout on the front and rear of my 1090r and I just put a Motoz GPS on the rear and a Motoz Adventure on the front. Only had time for a short ride. Maybe 50 km, but the Adventure on the Front felt kind of spongy and rounded in turns and cornering. No sliding or slipping. I guess it's due to huge tread depth. I think you mentioned this in one of your videos.
Yes Sir Rick. Those 3/4" tall tread blocks do move more than most ADV tires as they are nearly 2x taller. That feeling will go away as the tread blocks wear down.
Hi Kyle great info on the motoz. Question, wich is better for you if you're going on pavement an a lot of gravel roads and a bit of sand here and there what would it be between motoz adventure tires or Michelen anakee wild?
Great question... They will be similar. For me the Anakee Wild wears out 2x faster than the Adventure. The Wild feels like riding on a cloud for the first 1k miles or so due to the sipped lug sidewalls which are built to flex. I love the feedback from the road due to the soft sidewalls, it is a great tire. The Motoz Adventure is in my opinion / experience a more robust tire than the Michelin and is smoother on the highway and lasts longer with very similar off-road performance.
Thanks for replying, Which one would be better in the twisties?
The reason for me choosing between these 2 is I ride n v strom which is lacking in ofroad capability and me lacking decent skill, and are planning a mostly gravel trip with one of these tires in mind and when I'm back I'm going to switch back to the great continental trail attack 3,s for normal road riding.
@@danietheron9978 very similar… the Motoz will feel more planted at first… then the Michelin … then the Michelin will be gone and the Motoz takes over ;) The Michelin is a “higher performance” street tire overall.
@@danietheron9978 your V-Storm will benefit from the lighter weight of the Anakee Wild. I’d suggest you go that route.
Anyone have experience with these tires on LIGHT 250/300cc dual sports? Looking to replace a D606 rear/IRC GP-21 front on my Honda Crf250L and wondering how the Motoz lineup would compare to those. I’m a SoCal rider so I send it in the twisties 90-95% of the time but then the remainder 5-10% of the time I go to something like Gorman where I need to keep up with my friends on real dirt bikes so despite all the street riding I do, I can’t go for something like the GPS I need something way more aggressive. Talk about searching for a unicorn lol. But if anyone has experience with how these compare to the D606 or the stock IRCs I’d appreciate the insight
Yes! Do the Motoz RallZ. I have found it to be better than the D606. You can run the RallZ front or the Enduro ST or IT if you want to have better knobbies for the front off-road.
@@manybikes thanks a bunch for the reply and all your videos!!
Kyle. im running 2021 Africa twin dct. what tires would you recommend for offroad and good street performance both.
If you do mostly street with some gravel roads tossed in there... go with the Tractionator GPS tire. If you like to get into the mud... or deep sand but want longevity (we are talking 6k miles or so... ) go with the Adventure. If you want the best dirt performance with great street manners go with the RallZ. If you are entering a race... pick the Desert H/T ;)
Just got ax41 were would they fall in.
Congrats! I love the AX41 tires, they are fantastic. They are a 60% dirt tire probably between the Adv and the RallZ. They wear out really quick and have soft sidewalls…. That’s the main difference between them and the Motoz
@@manybikes thank you.
@@brucegerken1063 my pleasure!
Excellent detailed review with plenty advices for the road strategy. Never seen something like this... + experienced rider talking about it.
Bravoooo!!
Thanks for watching!
Hi Kyle. That Desert HT front looks completely different than what I have. What is the cause of that? Otherwise great video and looking forward to the sequels.
Thanks for watching! The Tubeless and TubeType Desert HT’s have very different tread patterns. Here is a sneak peek: Motoz Desert H/T Tire Review | Motoz Monday Ep2 | Most Aggressive Adventure Tire 90% Dirt 10%Street ua-cam.com/video/pGG0Pa8RR7k/v-deo.html
Kyle can i take you by the word shipping is free even to GERMANY
Free shipping to the lower 48 USA States... Not worldwide ;)
Why don't you list the 130/ 80 -17 size tire rear desert H/T on your web page ?
It didn’t exist when the listing was created. Was added later.
@@manybikes Its not on your web page today ?
@@Sertao2013 I can personally provide them to you. Please email me or message me on social media and I’ll work on the details with you.
@@manybikes Thanks I just ordered and received front and rear for my bmw g 650 gs sertao rear 143.00 and front 125.00 free shipping . I looked around and that seemed to be a pretty good price .
Motoz GPS on the rear and Motoz Adventure on the front, great combination.
Right on! I too like this combo for LONG Mileage with Great Bite.
You put me on my Rallz for my KLR, been loving them.. need tires for a KLX now, think I'll do the same if they're sized for it?
Yes Sir! The KLX is so SWEET!!!!
Thanks Mr Bradshaw for your review. In another life, you did a great review of 50/50 adventure tires. I'm now confused because you indicated the tractionator adventure is a great tire on tarnac but in your review, you gave the lowest score under freeway conditions. Is it because the adventure is a loud tire on freeway? Thanks in advance for indicating what I missed.
Good question! Here I am speaking to JUST these 4 Motoz tires... not to the other 25 tires I have tested. Of these 4... the GPS is the most highway friendly, ADV is #2, RallZ is #3 and the Desert HT is #4. It is great on tarmac here as it lasts 6K+ miles for most riders and will take you anywhere. It is lounder than some of the "other tire brands" and it is pretty heavy in comparison, and the front tire can wander more than others... LOTS OF FACTORS ... It is an amazing tire though and I have had the Adventure on my 950 Super Enduro exclusively from 2016 to 2020. It works great.
Great info as always the problem I am have is finding 150/70/18 for my tenere 700
I’ve got the Rallz in stock. Message me in IG or FB for details.
Got the rallz on my afric twin love the performance of the tire but the noise on the highway is too much. How much quieter is the adventure tire?
Ha! Ha! Must be running that factory exhaust ;) On my 1190 all I hear is the Yosh! IN all seriousness... The Adventure is about 15% quieter than the Rallz. It is still a little audible fully aired up but get really loud on the highway below 30 psi. It does roll a hair smoother than the Rallz too...
I had a couple sets of Heidenau K60 Scouts on a Suzuki 650 V-Strom. Front an rear wore about the same. 16,000 miles on them. Good all around tire.
I had a set of TKC80's on a DR-Z400. Front and rear wore about the same. 4000 miles on them. Good all around tire.
I had a set of MotoZ Desert H/T's on the DR-Z400. Front and rear wore about the same. 5000 miles on them. Much better in the dirt than the TKC80's and about the same on the highway.
I had a set of MotoZ Adventures on the DR-Z400. Front and rear wore about the same. 6000 miles on them. As good or better than the TKC80's.
I currently have a set of MotoZ RallZ on an Africa Twin. The rear tire has about 10,000 miles on it and could probably go another 5000, but it picked up a blade from a utility knife. I replaced the tube but there is a gash in the tire that makes me nervous. The front tire is about done, so I think I will retire the rear. Front tires are getting about 5000 miles, so I am burning up three front tires for every rear. The RallZ are great on and off road, including snow.
Great feedback! I love the RallZ rear and Dual Venture front combo!
@@manybikes I seem to be getting better mileage than most. I suspect it's because my motorcycle is my transportation, so I spend most of my time on asphalt. I also live in Western Washington, so I spend a lot of time on wet roads, and occasionally snow. I don't think it wears the tires as fast.
I have a set of GPS tires waiting to go on. I'm concerned I'll never settle on one setup because there will always be something new to try. Life is hell on a motorcycle.
Coastal mountain roads turn into goose greese for the early, cool, damp morning ride to the dirt so on road performance in the wet is really important for me. Where I live we don't have much need for high-speed freeway performance but octopus grip is critical on twisty mountain roads.
Of these 4 tires the RallZ would be your best bet as it has the greatest mix of silica and the rubber compound is softer.
What do you think of the 80 for sand?
I running gps 50 50 motoz
The TKC80 is a great all around tire. I do not think it is best suited for sand, but it works as good as most of the other 50/50+ tires out there. Of all the adventure tires out there, I prefer the Motoz Desert H/T or the RallZ in the sand due to the deeper tread blocks than most and the large scoop like lugs.
804/805 for me lol 7600k mils i get from a set
Tha is crazy mileage!
@@manybikes i just put 3rd set on my t7 last set 7600 mils did 4 bdrs on it last year idahobdr wybdr and cobdr and utbdr
@@grego10r that’s rad!
I know it is not what these tyres are for, however i like to push my bike on road (twisties) too, which one offers the best on road grip and lean angle? Thanks in advance Kyle.
The RallZ hands down. I rip my 150 hp Adv bike full pinned open out of corners with zero issues… love them! Watch this whole vid: Motoz Rallz Tractionator Adventure Tire 2k Mile Review Vlog - Real World Footage ua-cam.com/video/mA7e5BAm6CQ/v-deo.html
@@manybikes thank you my good sir
Thank you for your service, Kyle! I've followed your Chaparral videos (their loss) which led me to buy the Rallz for my 800 Tiger and am in love with it! However, I feel that the front tire gets a little squirrelly on the highway so I'm contemplating swapping it out with an adventure front. What are your thoughts?! Thanks!
Right on! Thank you for your support. I personally LOVE the Adventure tire and have not had the unstable issues that some have claimed. I have however had the font end shimmy using the Rallz and the Desert H/T tires ESPECIALLY on rain grooved cement - like kryptonite to Superman! I would recommend the Adventure Front tire for your Tiger... and if that still has you feeling uneasy I'd recommend the TKC80 or the Dunlop TrailMax Mission front. I have used all of those combos and they all work well. Thanks for watching and thanks for your support.
@@manybikes I still have Mitas E07s Dakar on my KTM 890, but I need more traction. How would you feel if I put the MOTOZ Adventure or RallyZ in the rear and keep the E07 Dakar in the front? Also do you feel the Rallyz would be overkill in my case? (not doing super aggressive riding). thanks again and I am shopping with you from now onwards. You have great reviews! Very helpful!
Why can’t I find a front 90/90 21 Motoz Tractionator Adventure tire
Correct! It’s been replaced by the Dual Venture front tire. ua-cam.com/video/Jn4K8kGMLbM/v-deo.html
Awesome video. I'm a noob to the adv riding, picking up a 05 KTM 950 Adventure this weekend. Looks like I'll be going with the adventure tires, just curious on tire pressure advice.
Sweet! You will love it! I have a 2009 and it is a great machine. Run them at the recommended pressures on pavement and I drop to 30 as my all around pressure off-road.... unless the going gets tough. Then I air them down to mid to low 20's. Enjoy!
Congratulations on your 950 Adventure!
Excellent video Kyle! You are truly a MotoZ-en Master! Honestly, your videos provide the most Motoz information you can find on the internet or UA-cam. Your information has made me a Rallz fan for my T-700. The Motoz Monday series is a reason to like Mondays!
Glad to help! Good to know there are several of you excited for the series. Looks like you are getting your moneys worth out of your current set of Rallz. I think they are a great balance of performance and wear. I don't like tires on the bike for years anyway ;)
New tires every season, !! And THE name is motoz rallz 💪😃 My t7 loves Them. If ther would be a 80/80 tire rallz ,must be it.
Heck Yeah!!!
@@miclinda256 Hi Micael, my T7 does not love them... on the pavement anyway. They are fantastic offroad. On pavement or even hardpack dirt the front tire feels very unsettled at speeds over 50/60 mph. The handlebars get wobbly. Did you experience this issue?
@@MrQueLastima hi…! Not at all, tyre presure 2,1 front and rear . 190 km/h no wobble . Suspension settings maybe ?? Dont remember my stock settings
Have now changed to K-tech front and rear 2000$ kit , But still stable, even better in corners. 👍
Such a great channel! For my T7 I ride a lot of rocky slow speed technical trails. I also ride quite a bit of curvy mountain highway as well as loose smooth fire roads getting there. Not much in the way of deep sand or mud. The stock Pirelli Scorpion Rally STRs are great on the highway but squirrelly on the fire roads. I would like something that still provides good grip when leaning over on the tarmac but does better on the fire roads and will hold up to abuse on the rocky trails. The good pavement performance seems to eliminate the desert ht and the rallz? Will the adventure perform on pavement when I want to pass the crotch rockets? Thanks!
I say the Adv or RallZ rear and a Dual Venture front. The Adv and Rallz are similar on-road but the Rallz is a step above off-road. Both will hang with the sport bikes.
@@manybikes Thank you for your advice. May I order these through you?
@@Noone-dy7sh yes Sir! Text me… 209-596-2260
Hey Kyle. You are doing great work with tires. I wanted to pick your brains on something. How would you compare the following FRONT tires on road, and off-road:
- Dunlop TrailMax Mission
- Motoz Tractionator Dual Venture
- Tractionator Adventure
- Scorpion Rally STR (my current set for reference)
and those read tires:
- Dunlop TrailMax Mission
- TKC70 Rocks
- Tractionator Adventure
- Scorpion Rally STR
I found you prise the first three in similar fashion so wondered about a direct comparison.
What's up! Thanks for reaching out. Here are my feelings on how I'd compare the following FRONT tires on-road, and off-road...
The most on-road tire will be the Scorpion Rally STR, followed by the TrailMax Mission followed by the Tractionator Adv followed by the Dual Venture.
Now Off-Road I find the Motoz Tractionator Adv to be far superior to any of the other tires listed. Followed by the Dunlop TrailMax Mission / Continental TKC70 Rocks and then the Scorpion Rally STR.
Hope this helps.
- Kyle
@@manybikes Thanks so much for your input! However, I got lost somewhere in the middle of it. You say you are comparing FRONT tires on road, but then for offroad you seem to be talking about the back tires only (as you name TKC70Rocks, which is back-only tire). Could you please rephrase?
Also, just to give you a hint of what I'm looking for: 70/30 str/dirt tires for Norden 901. I have road racing background so I appreciate sportbike asphalt performance (leaning, grip, low noise, no vibrations on braking with front) but also want to get into some off-road (in time more aggressive, even if still only 30% due to limited availability) and not get stuck or washed-out with the front. What would you recommend for that situation? I'm in Central Europe, so no deserts for me - usually dirt and gravel roads with occasional mud section if no way around it.
@@impact0r I’d go with the Dunlop TrailMax Mission or Pirelli STR up front and the Continental TKC70 Rocks in the rear.
@@manybikes Thanks for the suggestion. Would Motoz GPS be worth considering for front and/or rear? How do they compare to TrailMax and TKC70?
Currently, riding on Scorpion Rally STR - ace on asphalt, but can get miserable off-road unless things are bone-dry. Really bad side-sliding in light mud - both front and rear.
Also, I ride about 50% 2up, if that makes a difference.
(sorry should have watched the whole thing)
Kyle, in your incoming reviews could you please give mileage estimates separately for front and rear (also if possible mention front/rear behavior). Some of us like running aggressive front for grip and more conservative rear for mileage.. for example ADV front with GPS rear, etc.
I hear you loud and clear! I will work at adding front tire data... I personally am not a fan of the GPS front tire as it is not "as dirty" as I would like... and that is why I pair it with the ADV front tire. I also am thinking about the ADV front for my next RallZ rear... so I get more even wear on the street and still have grip in the dirt. Thanks for watching!
@@manybikes thanks a bunch!
And yeah most of the time it's alot easier to ride around bold rear than slippery front 😂
Heck Yeah!!!!! My preference all day long!
GREAT VID KYLE
Thanks for watching!
Sharing this with my sales staff. Thanks again Kyle
Fantastic! Episode 2 is being uploaded now... and features the Desert HT.
First i commute to work on my bike and play in tge las vegas desert. Went moto camping in UT and AZ (so bike loaded with gear) On my Drs 400s I first put on the tractionate desert ht, excellent in the desert very loud on the street, slippery on wet road (remember I live in Vegas, it rarely rain but when it does the road is very "oily ") got a bit over 5k miles on them. Then I put on 2 set of motor mountain hybrid, off road they were as good as the desert ht, again only dry stuff here. Better on the street and less slippery on wet road about 8k miles on them. A couple of weeks ago I installed the adventure tire, I haven't gone in the desert so can't comment, on street they seems to be slightly better than the mountain hybrid.
On all of them I was surprise on how much I could lean the bike in a turn without loosing grip.
Love it! The way the Motoz tires work and last is remarkable. I am curious to hear how you like the ADV as compared to the previous two tires you have run.
@@manybikes so far on the street no issues. My front size is slightly different than oem, motoz 90-90-21 oem 80-100-21 so its a bit wider but no rubbing.
I probably could have gotten more mileage from the mountain hybrid but several time i ran them on tge street with 12 psi on front and about 14 on rear (supposed 18 and 22 ) i dont do a good job checking my tire pressure, i look at it when the bike start to feel "weird"...lol
@@Loiczzr Ha! Ha! You and I both!!!
I am between the motoz and the anakee wild. I am an off road rider at heart but use my t7 to commute on and ride street as well.
Go with the Motoz RallZ in the rear and the Dual Venture up front. You won't be disappointed.
@@manybikes sounds like a good combo.. thanks..
Fantastic review! Best one out there!
Thanks for watching! Happy to be of service.
Kyle, got RallZ from you end of June for my T7, put them on myself with the tools I carry on my bike (pain in the you know what) however, the tires work great! Thank you and I appreciate the tire size recommendation too perfect!
That is awesome! Knowing how to do a tire repair / swap in the field is a KEY tool that most leave out of their "tool box" if you get what I am saying. Nice work! I LOVE my Motoz... "they just work" and ... work LONGER than most too! I call that a Win Win!
Kevin! How much tire pressure ? I have 30 psi front and rear. And My t7 is so god on every ground , i could cry 😃
Same here! I run them at the recommended pressures if going to be on the highway at high speeds all day. BUT on the daily I jump on pavement and off-road I run them at 30 front and rear. I have found this to me my go-to all around pressure and then off-road for the day I keep them at 30 psi .... UNTIL the going gets tough. If I am getting beat up by the rocks and lack of sidewall squish, I air them down to low 20's and if in the SAND all day I'll go down to 18 or so... But most of the time its 30 psi.
@@miclinda256 Sorry to take so long My T7 I keep in Redlands CA where i go to every other week or so and I couldn't remember psi ! I knew it was low Both front and rear at 19psi. Use on Highway and off road. I run Cyclops TPMS tracks psi and tire temp. After reading Kyle's & Your comments, I aired up to 24psi. Link is where I rode. PSI dropped to 19 at about 8000 ft tire temp 88 deg outside temp drop to 51 deg and Thunder lightening and poured rain! Psi went back up as I dropped in elevation and temp came up to. Rain stopped air temp 95 tire psi 23 tire temp 108deg rear. 24psi seems fine tires work great rocky, rain, mud and asphalt. I only have little over 200 miles on them, there great! www.relive.cc/view/vevYxVYAWJq
Why are these tires so expensive? 1 rear tire Is twice the price of shinko or Dunlop PAIRS....
Cause it lasts way longer
@@wadeberry8261 they don't last 4xs longer. You get maybe 33% more use.
I'd say because they are made of primarily All Natural Rubber and they are made in Thailand not China... and they last a LONG time. I blew through two sets of Shinko tires and a Kenda Big Block in the same mileage as a single Motoz Adventure. Three sets of tires and 6 mounting fees (the average guy is not swapping his own tires) is MUCH more expensive than 1 set of Motoz Tires.
@@manybikes I didn't think of the mounting fees. I mount my own so it's no biggie.
I have an 890 Adventure, started with TKC 80's, then switched to AX41's. I am ordering a set of Rallz to try but curious about your thoughts on the best combo for road off / off road (I will sacrifice on the street so I can feel safer off road). I live in Half Moon Bay (SF Bay Area) and do day trips down Highway 1 through Santa Cruz / Watsonville to Hollister Hills (hard pack and sandy) for the afternoon and then back home. Rain grooves are not really a big problem for me but I like to ride the twisties in coastal Santa Cruz mountains and the roads can be intermittently slippery due to fog/moisture in spots.
What would your recommendation be for the front? RallZ? AX 41? TKC80?
First off... Nice bike! The 890 is a fantastic machine! The AX41 tires are on my list of Top 3... and they would be #1 if they lasted longer than 2k miles. Anyhow... the RallZ as a set is Amazing but many do not like the front tire due to the handlebar shake some get. My list of Non-RallZ front tires would be #1 Anakee Wild, #2 AX41 and Motoz Dual Venture. LOVE ME some Santa Cruz Mountain Coastal Road! I spent 35 years in Fremont / Livermore. My Go-To blow some steam off ride was Highway 17 out to the end of the Pierfor a Clam Chowder at The Dolphin. Then up Highway 1 to 84 or Highway 9 then across the Dunbarton or Bay Bridge to get home. Love that route! So many options... And then there is the "hard to find" Buzzard Lagoon Road through the redwoods! Nice area for sure.
@@manybikes Kyle, thanks for the quick reply and intel, much appreciated! I'm going to try the Rallz front to see how it works, and will then try the Anakee to compare. Let me know if you are ever up here again, we can ride to Alice's Restaurant and then do one of the many awesome mountain roads up here. Did you ever ride Tunitas Creek? Pescadero Creek?
@@nealschlatter434 Yes Sir! Tunitas Creek and Pescadero Creek are amazing! I used to have keys to the property net to Lockheed near Fleton / Empire Grade Road and used to tear it up on the local trails. The "good ol' days" for sure!
@@manybikes I'm looking to get a set of Rallz rear and the new DV front for when my AX41's wear out - where are you working these days? I'd rather buy from you that other companies because you do so much to educate all of us
@@nealschlatter434 manybikes at g mail and I’ll get you rolling.
I'm running Motoz Tractionator Rallz on sportster awesome tyre in deep. Just finished a trip to Cape York on the sportster with trailer in tow. 65000kms on Tractionator GPS I still have about 50% tread left on it. The ride was wet, dry, highway speeds 😉 and dirt.
Sounds great! Love expeditions like that and I love your story! Thanks for sharing.
First view!! Thanks Kyle for the information. You have helped steer me to the RallZ tire for my 890 in Colorado. Can’t wait to try it out! Do you have any shipping discounts or anything? How hard is it to mount those by hand with spoons etc? Thanks!!
I’m actually checking your website now for those tires. You mentioned free shipping so I’m ordering a set. Gotta double check I get the right tire sizes and the tubeless version for my 890.
Yes Sir! We offer FREE shipping on the tires! As for mounting… check this out: How to Change a Motorcycle Tire with a Tube at Home in Your Garage ua-cam.com/video/gSF3oi7z91A/v-deo.html
@@flyinghigh370 150/70-18 and 90/90-21 Tubeless. The 150’s are all should arrive next week, we’ve got 20 of them on order and 2 containers are scheduled to land.
@@manybikes Thanks. So I’m guessing the 90/90-21 TT is Tube Type and I want the other one? Rookie question. Just don’t want to have to test your return policy!
@@flyinghigh370 the 890 wants the Tubeless. Check this out: Motoz Tractionator RallZ Adventure Tire Review - Same Size Different Tires? Tube vs. Tubeless ua-cam.com/video/qwHDZHufy6A/v-deo.html
Motoz not motaz
Depends on who you talked to… Motoz AU called and told me it’s short for Moto Australia and pronounced it MoTaz on the phone.
Cant wait for review on Tubes
It is coming!!! With weights and thicknesses... what I would recommend / suggest / what I run in my own bikes and carry with me.
Good on ya Kyle. I've managed to 'time' my tire changes at the Mexican border coming from Canada. One time I bought the tire on State side and installed in Ensenada.
Good overview.
Good stuff! Yea, timing tire changes can be important! Running out of rubber and or not being able to get the rubber you want is a bummer. Love me some Baja!!!!
Kyle, great review. I’m running new Dunlop 50/50 but the tractionators look great. What reduced pressures do you run off road? Cheers from Sydney.
The TrailMax Mission is an impressive tire. I think it is very comparable to the GPS tire in the Motoz line-up. Regarding pressures... I run full pressure if running highway all day long... 30 psi if jumping from dirt to street and back again... and mid 20's if the going gets really sandy (for a better footprint / flotation) or rocky so the sidewalls conform instead of deflect. I will get to the land down under one of these days... Last time I tried... I flew there, did not have the right visa and they put me right back on the plane... SF to AU back to SF... with a 4 hour layover. Sucky!
Ty for the reviews ... I went with the Motoz Adventure...lovem 😊
Glad you like them!
Great explanation on the different Motoz! I also run a more aggressive front, and more 50/50 on the back. GS1250 feels quite heavy on the front, and i dont like washout on the front tire. The rear i dont care... :-) Now im going to test out Anakee Wild on front, TCK 70 rocks on the rear
Right on! The TKC80 front and TKC 70 Rocks in the rear is what I will be mounting up next week on my 1190 Adv R. I really like that combo on my 390 Duke... and now I need to test it to see if it will hold up to heavy bike with Horsepower. We shall see... When that test is done I will go back to my RallZ rear and Secret Not Yet Announced Motoz Front tire. Stay tuned!
Hi
How is the gps 50:50 on wet tarmac?
I have ridden it through two winter seasons without any issue. It works well. Full pressure on slippery surfaces like moss the rear center strip slide a bit when riding straight up. A little less pressure and the knobs do their job.
Thanks a lot for the review!
When talking about GPS tyres could you say something more about the difference between 50/50 and mostly off-road direction?
Is mostly off-road direction noticeably better than 50/50? How it affects on pavement abilities, noise etc? Is there any impact on longevity?
In the mostly off-road mounting there is more forward traction straight line. Better off-road braking. But keep in mind that is nominal. Any tire with that center strip is not going brake as well as a tire without it off-road. Noise level was about the same. Wear? Seems to be Pretty close. Handling isn't quite as good when you reverse on pavement. Braking on pavement seems unaffected. The trailmax mission is a better 50/50 tire imo. Maybe doesn't wear quite as long.
Great feedback Paul, I concur. dlamichala, I have noticed a little better traction off-road in the Mostly Off Road orientation in the "tough stuff" where I need the tire to claw or scoop the media. On road I did not notice any difference in handling, noise, or in wear. It is a solid tire with huge mileage.
Wow, very comprehensive review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! Happy to be of service!
Thanks mate. Been looking for a video like this.
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching.
Subscribed for this series! My current setup on my Dr650 and T7 is tkc80 front and rallz rear. I haven't tried any of the motoz fronts yet since I had some tkc80's laying around and it has his grip and longevity
Thanks for the sub! The TKC80 is a common go-to for guys who live in areas with rain grooved cement. The Motoz front tires don't like that surface much ;)
@@manybikes We don't have much of that road type here in central Indiana, but they aren't very good at laying smooth pavement around here so a lot of it is fairly grooved. I notice it quite a bit with the rallz rear, but the tkc80 front keeps me pretty stable
@@jerryjb Nice!
Great video brother. Your recommendation on the tractionator adventure was spot on.
Awesome, Glad to hear it! I sure like them... Happy Trails to you!
Kyle, as always great information. How do any of these tires fare vs Dunlop Trailmax Mission?
Thanks for watching and I am happy that you find the content informational. Want an early look? Monday's release will be Episode 4 where I discuss the Tractionator Adventure tire from Motoz. Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/CNWWzvYL6Is/v-deo.html It is the closest to the TrailMax mission in mileage and overall use. It is in my opinion 10% "dirtier" than the Dunlop and has more "rubber on the ground" as the Dunlop is really really round in profile. I'd like to do a head to head comparison between the two here in the near future...
Thanks for the reply. I will definitely be tuning in, and would love to see a head to head. Have about 1000 miles left on my factory tire and currently searching for what I will put on next.
@@tap13out Yeah… So many options now days! It’s pretty awesome!
awesome and we are at "tire dilemma" again, will be on the market next year, love your rubber reviews for sure, thnx V!
Glad to help!
@@manybikes hey Kyle, other day you were doing short video on KTM build and you guys adding the cooling seat cover, where did get it and what brand it is…. Keep up good work my friend 🙏
Yes Sir! I took it for a spin... the seat cover fees "strange" but does work! I just added ALL of the KTM PowerParts to our website and you can buy the seat cover there, check it out: www.ktmpartspro.com/category/22876/ktm-890-adventure
@@manybikes awesome no one loves roasted chestnuts in summer 🤪🤪🤪
Great content/review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! Labor of LOVE.... I have had a tire fetish since I was a kid. Calling out 4x4 tire tread tracks on dirt roads as we went for family walks.
New heidenau k60 ranger?
Thanks for the heads up! I need go get my hands on a set of these!!!
@@manybikes I have a set of ax41 in my shopping cart right now but I think I'll wait for your review on the ranger. They look similar kinda shinko/ax41 mix. I hope they perform well and is a little more resistant to puncture. The new video on their fb page looks amazing.
@@marcnunes6916 Yea... I googled it and just watched the video before responding to your original message. The do look just like what you are describing. They are promising! There is not a US importer as of yet... I reached out to them directly. We will see.... If I were you - I'd roll the AX41's until the Rangers are available.
@@manybikes got you! I will do that you guys have it in stock ready to go.
@@marcnunes6916 I just reached out to Heidenau and the process for us to become a retailer is in the works... The Ranger is "in production" but will not be released for sale until January of 2022. We will get on of the initial "10 sets" that arrive in the USA. Pretty stoked! Thanks for the heads up!
What sort of pressures are you running?
I run full recommended pressure when running the highway all day or multiple days in a row.... Daily use where I jump from street to dirt and back again and airing up / down is useless and time consuming I run 30 psi. If I am in rocks and need more help in the from of sidewall flex or in deep sand where I need a bigger footprint I'll drop down to the low 20's and extreme cases to 18 psi.
@@manybikes Reason I ask is that I always seem to get less than what others indicate. I have a RallZ on the back of a KTM 790 Adv and I am interested to see how far I get out of it - the 790 loves to spin that rear wheel. Thanks mate.
Good review
Glad you enjoyed it! Please subscribe to the series if you haven't already. New Motoz video each Monday!
Great Video!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. More to come very Monday here for a little while...
I am running the Trailmax Missions on my Tiger 900. Very happy with them, but want something a little more aggressive, but still commutable. I have heard some complaints about the Motoz Tractionator Adv front tire. What do you think of the Trailmax front and Tractionator Adv rear? Or maybe something more aggressive all around like Rallyz front and Adv rear? Appreciate your content man!
Right on! For the commute I would totally recommend the Mission Front with the Motoz rear. Either the RallZ or the Adventure - either would do the trick. ADV will get you more mileage but the RallZ is a little more aggressive. The F850 GS in my ADV tire video.... I swapped him to a Mission Front and he LOVED it!
I am here looking for a 18 inch 80 off and 20 on road tire for the front of my TW200.
Awesome! And... good luck. I did run a Bridgestone AX41 reverse direction up front on a bike of mine... and it worked well. That may be a way for you to go.
@@manybikes Thanks for your quick reply, I will look into that one.
Kyle, Can you please mention in your videos the differences in the rim widths Motoz calls fro between the TL and tubed versions of their tires? I only found the info on the australian site for example here motoz.com.au/product/tractionator-rallz-2/ The tubeless tire recommends a width of 2.5, whereas the tubed says 1.85. The US site makes no mention of this, and neither do most vendors - what this means is I got a Tubeless tire on my T7 after I converted it to tubeless but did not realize the tire was for a fatter rim, and the tire wore out much faster than the rear tire, maybe about 1500-2000 miles. The Rear was still looking good, I believe the fact the TL tire needed a fatter rim make the profile incorrect on my bike and then it wore wrong .
Check this one out! Motoz Tractionator RallZ Adventure Tire Review - Same Size Different Tires? Tube vs. Tubeless ua-cam.com/video/qwHDZHufy6A/v-deo.html
Cool, that was a good video, I saw you recommended the wider tubeless tire though, which seems like it’s made for a wider rim than the t700. I ran it but it did not last very long. Would you still recommend the wider tubeless tire? Maybe if the tubless tire is what you suggest I will try the adventure instead of the rallz and see if I get better wear.
Also, what are your thoughts on running a 140 rear on a t700? I’ve seen folks do it, it the rim seems wide for that.
Thanks again, appreciate your time.
Mike
I have run both set-ups on the T7 and I liked the turn in feel the best on the Tubeless Front and the rear in the 150 fit much better and wore much longer than the 140 which became too round to utilize all of the traction it could provide. Motoz says for the T7 the rims are "in-between" their specs and while the recommend the wider tires they sell about 50/50 to the T7 customers. The Adv front will wear WAY longer than the Rallz for sure! I went two rears to 1 front on the Adventures when mounted on my 950 Super Enduro!
Thank you!
@@mikecmp My Pleasure!