I actually am not shocked… I read about this in the late 90s and in early 2000. I saw a child on the news born with this condition and I watched a case of a mother discovering she had this condition.
Joe Gasly No, she doesn't. That's like saying that when you get a heart transplant that you have another person in your body. You don't have another person in your body. You have a part of another person in your body. That's it. But in this case, it's not even part of another person. A person never existed out of the cells that now form this girl's body.
I almost fell out of my chair when I head this woman's story. I have a similar discoloration in the back of one leg, it's a straight line (one side dark, one light) that I thought was a birth mark, all my life I was plague by illness (sinus, respiratory, ect) , been in and out of the hospital, seen countless GP's and that feeling that I should have been a twin was always there. Twins run on my birth mother's side of the family. Thank you for posting I finally have a possible answer and starting point for my next trip to the doctor (I just got over a whopper of an infection).
I haven't seen a doctor yet regarding this, I don't have health insurance. I go to a local health center for basic stuff like allergy meds, however these people are not educationally equip for something like this, so I'll have to wait until I have health insurance to get properly tested. In the interim I'm learning about DNA and cells and how to activate the body's healing system. There a few things I've done combines with visualization which actually worked. Basically I've been visualizing the immune system that's making me ill is no longer dominant and all those cells are shriving up and dying out. It seems to be working - the brain believes anything it's told.
When Taylor said she used to have an obsession with twins as a child, I felt so close to her. My mother was supposed to have triplets, but after several complications during pregnancy on baby miscarried, one was stillborn and the third was me. I have had a literal obsession for as long as I remember with having a twin and honestly the worst part isn’t that I ended up losing both, but it’s this weird feeling of being incomplete that I get all the time.
Not only are you lucky but they live simultaneously through you. I can relate to how you’re feeling but I learned to accept that sometimes things happen for a reason but to never forget that we all have a purpose in this life. I hope one day you will find that and be at peace ♥
My twin died at 16 weeks and the doctor never realized it until I was delivered ahead of his deceased fetus. I always sense someone at my back and the feeling never goes away that I should have my brother here. Nobody in my family ever mentioned it to me until I miscarried twins of my own 14 years ago. I like to imagine that he needed them with him instead, and God blessed me with two singletons after that.
@@carriecree1789 @Chiara Procopio I recommend you the book: "wood you believe - volume 4 - the twinless self" by Jim Cogley, profoundly changed my perception of my life
Wow I was born a triplet too, one of them I absorbed and the other one died when he came out. my Grandma always told me that I could see and talk to my twins before I knew
I cant pay attention to this womans story. All my eyes are focusing on is the Asian lady in the back telling her version of the story with her facial expressions 😊
"When my mother was pregnant with me, they did an ultrasound and found she was having twins. When they did another ultrasound a few weeks later, they discovered that I had adsorbed the other fetus. Do I regret this? No, I believe his tissue has made me stronger. I now have the strength of a grown man and a little baby." - Dwight K. Schrute
There's a documentary about that on you tube. The prosecutor would not believe her that she's the mother of her twins, because the dna comparison was 0%.
@@Existentialnausea I saw that too and her children didn't have her DNA and they were taken from her because authorities didn't believe she was their mother
I’m shocked anyone is born with everything normal. There’s so much that can and does go wrong isn’t there. I think it’s a miracle to have a baby 100 % perfect. Amazing really.
I had to go to physical therapy after a car accident and the therapist said that when you do training for therapy I have to do anatomy and most of the cadavers had something it was not standard. A muscle connected overlapping, etc.
Wow, it's been two years and no one has felt the need to say anything in response to your comments. I know what you mean but just to state the obvious, none of us are perfect. We all have issues though they may be minor or undetectable. Even if we are in the best of health, have all our fingers & toes, perfect is not the right word. First, because it would mean that those with obvious issues are somehow less than perfect, which they're not. Second, and along the same lines, for there to be perfection, there would have to be some standard that we'd all have to meet to qualify. For instance, what's the 'perfect' height, weight, facial feature, skin tone, hair color, eye color... Since there are so many variations & all are acceptable, even two tone skin on a torso... perfection cannot be a thing.
I saw this on a baby years ago. I didn't know what it was. He had that line going down the middle. He was half white, half black. Like somebody drew a line down the middle. I also had a patient with a definite green eye, and definite brown eye. I think it might be worth looking up again
@@HAHA-rm3ii I have the same very distinct two tone line thing running along both my arms, as if to separate the front part of me from the back. I was.a very big baby. I have known many twins & have always been fascinated by them but never thought, felt, nor wanted to be a twin & I'm not my own twin. I heard of this ages ago but in those cases body parts were actually found embedded in the surviving twin. There are also Siamese or conjoined twins & there are the sisters who each had a head & other parts but basically shared one body. I don't doubt stuff happens but if her body attacks itself, I'm surprised she isn't more sick. Maybe everyone with autoimmune issues have a version of this. I'm not often sick but, come to think of it, I never really feel alone. Maybe I do have a twin inside me. LOL
I think they are "plants" That situation of a TOO reactive audience member right in center of camera seems to be a thing on all her shows. Check out other videos.
No you got this wrong😅, practically the twin is dead and only the genetic materials left l” in this case is nothing but debris” So the twin has no tangible effecton her life other than the autoimmune symptoms and the abdomen line
@@fatmahassan1080 Yeah except there was one woman with the same thing where some of her eggs were her twins so what ended up happening was some of her children were genetically not hers. They had her twins genetics. She almost lost her children until they did biopsies from different organs where it showed she had two sets so she could keep her kids.
She’s lucky her twin wasn’t male. I’ve seen cases where they were half male half female and had a lot more medical issues. Still really interesting having two sets of DNA. One lady had such a struggle proving her children were actually hers because DNA said otherwise. Also makes you wonder about crimes and the justice system.
Paulo Guzzon I’ve noticed this occurring in a few of these interviews. Maybe the producers tell everyone who sits in that sit that they will be in the view of the camera throughout the interview
Identical or fraternal? I’m willing to entertain the notion that there may be some type of special, as yet not fully understood bond between identical twins, with "fraternals" though, the relationship DNA-wise, is no closer than it would be had the twin been born years before or after the other. Of course fraternal twins grow up together and thus may develop a closer emotional bond than most siblings, but as to some mystical bond, _maaaybe_ just maybe, it might exist with an identical twin, with a fraternal twin though, no, the idea is nonsense.
@@gregoryreese8491 Umm I'll slide in my input as a fraternal twin and say that what you just typed out was kinda weird and also mildly rude though I don't think you intended for it to be that way. But for future reference, you shouldn't go around stating that fraternal twins having a special or spiritual bond is "nonsense" because there are plenty of identical twins that hate and can't stand each other and plenty of fraternal twins that are deeply connected to each other.
The greatest relief is knowing your issue ,when I was a kid I was always dumped because I had low energy and exhaust pretty quick ,The thing was my parents hide from me that I had ASD ,A hole in heart .Even the doctors told that time the earlier the surgery is done the better .I get to know about it on 21 when I had to undergoes a checkup .But that changed my life .I was the depressed person suddenly like woke .The first thing I did was gather money for the surgery did surgery in just 1 year ,Now am 23 and have a perfect life .
My parents used assisted fertility and wound up having triplets: myself, my brother, and my sister. There were four fertilized eggs that were put into her womb and there were four heartbeats to start out, but one had suddenly disappeared between ultrasounds. I have a line down my stomach kind of like Taylor's where there's two different skin tones on either side, so it's interesting to think that I could have the same sort of thing as her.
@@tiannavivianroberts3847 It's not nearly as pronounced, but I've noticed a line for years. I've never had any health issues that can be explained by this, so it could just be a simple sort of birthmark.
Its crazy... I have a few things Eczems Asthma Hayfever Oral allergy syndrome Glossitis And brachydactyly type d...my right thumb is almost a centimetre shorter than my left one. They're mostly inflammatory issues....i have many questions i need answers to
I have an identical twin. She is five minutes older than me. We are in our forties and she is my best friend. I empathize with her wondering what it would have been like growing up with a twin, or even a sibling. I was blessed with six siblings total and now that my parents are gone, they are even more important to me.
She doesn't start doing it till she suddenly seems to notice something off camera at 3:35 - I'm guessing she seen herself on a screen and thought she better start emoting. 😒
I saw this disorder years ago on a HOUSE episode. The kid was having severe and very odd medical problems and hallucinating. Good 'ol HOUSE figured it out.
According to everyone but house it was lupus until he figured out it never was. I always wanted the finale to be that house ended up dying of lupus. Can you say epic!
“When my mother was pregnant, they discovered she had twins. When they did an ultrasound later, they realized I had re-sorbets the fetus. Now, I have the strength of a grown man and a tiny baby.“ - Dwight Schrute
I don't understand why medical professionals didn't immediately recognize this. The first picture of her abdomen told me immediately that she was a Chimera. I was just a nurse, not a doctor, but I was instantly sure of what was going on here. In any event, I'm glad she finally has the answers she needs.
I don't get why they don't check this things in internet or books. They have patients whit unusual signs and marks which obviously can be a clue to something else and they don't dig into it. Good medical professional is one that approach each case with curiosity and use they brain to connect facts which may be unique for every patient.
Everybody has a line down their stomach thought this doesn't apply to you because you don't have the same thing. Sorry about that but you're not special.
I just learned about Chimera today. It blows my mind that a Mother actually absorbs the cells from her babies into her organs. I also read about this situation where a guy who suffered from serious drug addiction issues throughout his life, was left handed and right footed, he found out he had this condition, he apparently also suffered from autoimmune issues because his hair was falling out in patches. My kids are twins, it makes me wonder if they in the womb, could have absorbed some of each other’s cells? Maybe this can explain the closeness between twins in life. This really is absolutely fascinating. I’m so happy that this young lady was able to get to the answers and improve her health!
That moment at 3:25 is so Cringe when shes like "I am my own twin" and then pauses waiting for shocked gasps or something..but nobody reacts. Then Megyn tried to save her 😂
As a Fraternal twin, I believe this story. My twin brother and I are so different. He is dark and I'm light , he's tall and I'm short, I have big eyes and his eyes are small..when I got pregnant and noone knew, he was vomiting lol
I have twins, a boy and girl. My girl twin has multiple problems....PTSD, ADHD, AND so many physical problems.....now, you have me wondering if I would have had triplets.....(they were born in 1963, no ultrasounds back then, and my doctor and I were shocked at the delivery of 2 babies)
If she has a baby, it may not belong to her. A woman with this condition gave birth to a child and DNA tests showed the baby was not the child's mother.
False. She would be the mother however her predominant genetic signature may not match that of her ovaries. She carries two distinct sets of DNA mixed in random places through her body, not alien parts hiding in her torso.
Code Name shes not lying it was a documentary. They eventually had to test the womans hair to determine they were hers. They had even taken her kids accusing her of kidnap eventhough she had proof she birthed them. It took years for them to realize it was chimerism
When DNA tests prove someone in jail is innocent, they need to do different kinds of DNA testing to make sure the jailed person doesn't have two different sets of DNA, one making them innocent and one making them guilty!
My Granddaughter at age sixteen had terrible pain in her abdomen was rushed to hospital thinking it was her appendix the doctor came out told us prepping her for surgery was her ovary not appendix . Two hours later he come out told showing us photos of her twin inside her ovary there was teeth long hair over this ball like structure the same color as my Granddaughter also fingers just tiny body parts of an infant. My son and daughter in law were so shocked my daughter in law fell apart knowing there had been identical twins broke all of our hearts by the twin being absorbed by my beautiful Granddaughter. Today my Granddaughter is 30 yrs old and has a little girl now age 3 so thank God a doctor was up to date with this knowledge of twin absorption
My daughter has this “birth mark” on her stomach!! I’ve always wondered about it but just like her everyone says it’s a birth mark!! More information on this would be amazing this is very fascinating
Wow. Fascinating. It’s like she knew there was something different. I remember a story of a woman who had a child she gave birth to, but her DNA did not match the child. Turns out she had a twin inside her, and THAT twin’s DNA was the biological mother of the child. I’ve also read that many people can carry remnants of their mother’s DNA in them for life.
I did a DNA test last Christmas and when I pulled up my raw DNA profile, I learned that I have my two X chromosomes but I also have "pepper" pieces of a Y chromosome and to me, this is evidence of the same condition, but of a twin brother I absorbed. I used to have two differently colored eyes, I have a finger with an extra interphalangeal line and a patch of skin on my arm that tans differently and one toe that's longer than the matching toe.
If you look really close you can see her twin sister’s face on the left side? Truly fascinating that the line is perfectly straight, it couldn’t be a birthmark, it’s precisely another pigment altogether.
Martha Dung growing up and going to checkups the doctors told me it’s just hyper pigmentation and my symptoms could be from my eyes ( I had a really strong prescription and got migraines and nausea really easy )
Totally fascinating! I can't imagine this condition will bode well for her mortality and that's the worst part. Any illness will be challenging for her body to fight and I wish her the very best.
@@aricmackenthun47 Technically, no. TTTTS is where one twin's blood vessel system is overdeveloped at the the expense of the other twin, and one or both of them will die unless surgeons can intervene with laser surgery (highly risky) to eliminate some of the overdeveloped blood vessels in the one twin to help equalize the blood vessels in the other. It's very dangerous risky surgery with no guarantee of success, but the only way to save them both. My cousin's twins had it and she had emergency surgery in Toronto mid pregnancy to save them. They did make it to the survival mark of 38 weeks gestation and both were born premature but survived. Both are very healthy but have some mild cerebral palsy.
I have the same issue on my right arm.It goes from my shoulder to my elbow.When I was a child my grandmother scrubbed it so hard one day thinking it was dirt she made me cry(love my grandmother to bits) but dang she rubbed me raw.My mom came in and told her its a birthmark but boy she sure could not believe it because it was so brown and I am so light skinned.
I grew up an only child but I was a twin as well. My twin passed away in the early stages of pregnancy so we don’t know if it was a boy or girl. I wish my twin would have lived and been healthy that way we could have grown up together but I know one day I will see her or him again.
I would think this happens more often than people would think. Children just "know" at some level but sometimes can't quantify it. I for instance kept asking my mom if my dad was my real dad. She denied each time. I found out in my 60's through DNA testing that in fact, he was not my biological dad! Another man was and it all makes sense now, including the medical mystery that I had been dealing with all my life. He carried the gene for Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and I was just diagnosed by a geneticist! Bittersweet, but good to finally KNOW my instinct was correct!
Truly amazing story. She's deals with it incredibly and she's very beautiful. My question is, knowing how her immune system is sort of battling with itself, is her life expectancy affected by this at all?
THE ASIAN LADY IN BACKGROUND --------------> Is actually a Triplet. She repeatedly performs 3 different gyrations. She nods in approval. Then her eyes dart to the floor in disbelief. Then she seems to not approve. Interesting triple genre. I wish she was a quadruplet so the 4th child could "set straight" the other 3. And make them all pay better attention to the twins.
*Your friend catches you talking to yourself Friend: Are you talking to yourself? You: No, I'm having an arguement with my twin who I absorbed a long time ago
Venus isn't actually a chimera though. They finally tested her and found out that she wasn't. She's just a tortoiseshell that happens to be a split face (which is VERY common in tortoiseshell cats).
There is a photo of a cat being circulated on line, which is made up of patches + stripes of various distinct colors.The tagline is like "when you're the last cat made for the day and the factory has run out of matching parts."
There was an episode of House M.D. about this very thing. When twins get too close, they can fuse together and even absorb one of them like her. Two sets of DNA, sometimes two sets of cells in the brain causing very life-like hallucinations.
Imagine if that twin had its own feelings but it can’t express them because it’s trapped inside another person. I know it’s pretty impossible but still
She absorbed some of the cells of her twin, whilst a tiny foetus, which gives her two sets of DNA and two blood types. That does not make her her own twin. Sensible audience for not overreacting.
My twin was 5lbs 6oz. I was 3lbs 3oz. Boy/girl. He came out first. My parents didn't even know I was in there 😆 but, he got to go home and bond. I was in a incubator like the one for chickens for 3 months. With cracked ribs and a broken leg. The moral to this story is we fought almost daily but, I kicked his butt! Until puberty and he became 6'3 in like a day. After that he won and we no longer fight. People thunk twins are so close we can read each other's thoughts. Not true with boy/girl twins. We are 53 now and I don't know anything about him. If I passed him on the street I wouldn't recognize him. Sad I know. But it's better this way.
And it's not your fault you two couldn't form a psychic bond...males sometimes will even *admit* that they can actually NOT be thinking a single thought in their heads!
Tracy Thornton. Tracy Thornton that may be your experience. I had fraternal twins. Boy/girl they are so intune when she got pregnant he got morning sickness. When he got pulled over by cops for racing she had an asthma attack. When she went into labor he got pains. When she rolled the car and was lost for 12 hours no one could find her he dreamed the exact location of her accident. They are 30 years old and live 4 hours apart and still have the same connection. She smokes he has smokers cough every morning! Twins connected for life! Whether you want to feel or not. Unless your father by different sperm like that dude said in the comments......
My Grand mom gave birth to 3 sets of twins. 1 set lived but other 2 lost their sibling at birth. However my cousin who was born from my single aunt twin, had a physical due to pains in abdomin. Doc. Discovered my cousin had a twin that was fused to her overy it had bone hair and size of a softball. ... odd stuff
How crazy! I have the exact same markings on my stomach. Straight down the middle one side is the color of the rest of my body and the other half is white. I use to get teased by guys I dated calling me an ‘oreo’ but now I don’t feel so odd!
Hey there, I'm a twin!! My sister is exactly 1minute older than me, we use to dress a like up till we were about 10 or 11 years old, having a twin is so very cool. We now are 60 years old
Bluemarvel Jean I'm not a twin, but I went to school with some kids from a family with 3 sets of identical twin boys, each set about 2 years apart from the others, and all 6 of the kids looked a lot alike as well. It was pretty strange to see them walking to school.
"And what she found will shock you"
....well, the mystery is kind of dead when you spill the secret in the video title.
kapuraftw 🎯👁️👁️
EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT I SAID
RIGHT
Also the line on her stomach kinda gives it away
I actually am not shocked… I read about this in the late 90s and in early 2000. I saw a child on the news born with this condition and I watched a case of a mother discovering she had this condition.
She’s two people. How freakin awesome is that. She is truly special people. Amazing. She’s beautiful too. I hope she remains healthy
She's one person
Jeremiah James She has a second person inside of her body
By those standards, a miscarried fetus is a person too.
Joe Gasly No, she doesn't. That's like saying that when you get a heart transplant that you have another person in your body. You don't have another person in your body. You have a part of another person in your body. That's it. But in this case, it's not even part of another person. A person never existed out of the cells that now form this girl's body.
Jeremiah James She has the living cells of another human being inside her body.
When the other twin says screw it im still gonna leave a Mark on this world...
hahahahaa
Hahahahahaha fact
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Cool 💙
Very true. There are documented cases
I almost fell out of my chair when I head this woman's story. I have a similar discoloration in the back of one leg, it's a straight line (one side dark, one light) that I thought was a birth mark, all my life I was plague by illness (sinus, respiratory, ect) , been in and out of the hospital, seen countless GP's and that feeling that I should have been a twin was always there. Twins run on my birth mother's side of the family. Thank you for posting I finally have a possible answer and starting point for my next trip to the doctor (I just got over a whopper of an infection).
Eliz Cringle let us know
I will :)
hm i have a similar thing its a white line that goes from my pinky to my foot on right side and i do suffer from constant sinus issues and headaches
Eliz Cringle Was this the answer you were looking for? I’m sorry for your health issues, but I know having an answer would make it easier.
I haven't seen a doctor yet regarding this, I don't have health insurance. I go to a local health center for basic stuff like allergy meds, however these people are not educationally equip for something like this, so I'll have to wait until I have health insurance to get properly tested. In the interim I'm learning about DNA and cells and how to activate the body's healing system. There a few things I've done combines with visualization which actually worked. Basically I've been visualizing the immune system that's making me ill is no longer dominant and all those cells are shriving up and dying out. It seems to be working - the brain believes anything it's told.
When Taylor said she used to have an obsession with twins as a child, I felt so close to her. My mother was supposed to have triplets, but after several complications during pregnancy on baby miscarried, one was stillborn and the third was me. I have had a literal obsession for as long as I remember with having a twin and honestly the worst part isn’t that I ended up losing both, but it’s this weird feeling of being incomplete that I get all the time.
Not only are you lucky but they live simultaneously through you. I can relate to how you’re feeling but I learned to accept that sometimes things happen for a reason but to never forget that we all have a purpose in this life. I hope one day you will find that and be at peace ♥
My twin died at 16 weeks and the doctor never realized it until I was delivered ahead of his deceased fetus. I always sense someone at my back and the feeling never goes away that I should have my brother here. Nobody in my family ever mentioned it to me until I miscarried twins of my own 14 years ago. I like to imagine that he needed them with him instead, and God blessed me with two singletons after that.
@@carriecree1789 @Chiara Procopio I recommend you the book: "wood you believe - volume 4 - the twinless self" by Jim Cogley,
profoundly changed my perception of my life
@@baysgemini
Very good advice.
Wow I was born a triplet too, one of them I absorbed and the other one died when he came out. my Grandma always told me that I could see and talk to my twins before I knew
I cant pay attention to this womans story. All my eyes are focusing on is the Asian lady in the back telling her version of the story with her facial expressions 😊
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😂😂 awesome
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Same
😂😂😂😂😂😂 sooo true
The words “sibling rivalry” seems to be ironically adequate to describe her difficulties.
kenya91b 😂😂😂😂😂
I was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else had thought of sibling rivalry before I posted. Well done mate.
JDHED1 mmmim
kenya91b she won 😂😂😂
"When my mother was pregnant with me, they did an ultrasound and found she was having twins. When they did another ultrasound a few weeks later, they discovered that I had adsorbed the other fetus. Do I regret this? No, I believe his tissue has made me stronger. I now have the strength of a grown man and a little baby." - Dwight K. Schrute
It's a quote from a fictional character on the Office (us version)
this is why i love dwight lol
Rome Alexander TF
I thought this immediately lol
What episode ......was this please tell me
So if she ever gets pregnant, there's a chance her children will be born with her twin's DNA
No it's Steven Universe irl
There's a documentary about that on you tube. The prosecutor would not believe her that she's the mother of her twins, because the dna comparison was 0%.
Yep. I saw a story where that actually happened to another woman.
Omg ur right
@@Existentialnausea I saw that too and her children didn't have her DNA and they were taken from her because authorities didn't believe she was their mother
I’m shocked anyone is born with everything normal. There’s so much that can and does go wrong isn’t there. I think it’s a miracle to have a baby 100 % perfect. Amazing really.
I had to go to physical therapy after a car accident and the therapist said that when you do training for therapy I have to do anatomy and most of the cadavers had something it was not standard. A muscle connected overlapping, etc.
Wow, it's been two years and no one has felt the need to say anything in response to your comments. I know what you mean but just to state the obvious, none of us are perfect. We all have issues though they may be minor or undetectable. Even if we are in the best of health, have all our fingers & toes, perfect is not the right word. First, because it would mean that those with obvious issues are somehow less than perfect, which they're not. Second, and along the same lines, for there to be perfection, there would have to be some standard that we'd all have to meet to qualify. For instance, what's the 'perfect' height, weight, facial feature, skin tone, hair color, eye color... Since there are so many variations & all are acceptable, even two tone skin on a torso... perfection cannot be a thing.
I saw this on a baby years ago. I didn't know what it was. He had that line going down the middle. He was half white, half black. Like somebody drew a line down the middle.
I also had a patient with a definite green eye, and definite brown eye. I think it might be worth looking up again
@@HAHA-rm3ii I have the same very distinct two tone line thing running along both my arms, as if to separate the front part of me from the back. I was.a very big baby. I have known many twins & have always been fascinated by them but never thought, felt, nor wanted to be a twin & I'm not my own twin. I heard of this ages ago but in those cases body parts were actually found embedded in the surviving twin. There are also Siamese or conjoined twins & there are the sisters who each had a head & other parts but basically shared one body. I don't doubt stuff happens but if her body attacks itself, I'm surprised she isn't more sick. Maybe everyone with autoimmune issues have a version of this.
I'm not often sick but, come to think of it, I never really feel alone. Maybe I do have a twin inside me. LOL
@@HAHA-rm3ii the eye thing could be heterochromia
i keep looking at the lady in the back. her face is so expressive. its super entertaining. :)
Stefan Ackermann 😂 so True
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Mandy Simms
Stefan Ackermann haha ohhhh ya I see hahaha in a cute Chinese accent
I think they are "plants"
That situation of a TOO reactive audience member right in center of camera
seems to be a thing on all her shows. Check out other videos.
Holy smoke...if she gets pregnant with twins, one could be her daughter the other one her niece! Mind blown 😳😳
No. They do not share organs.
No you got this wrong😅, practically the twin is dead and only the genetic materials left l” in this case is nothing but debris”
So the twin has no tangible effecton her life other than the autoimmune symptoms and the abdomen line
@@fatmahassan1080 Yeah except there was one woman with the same thing where some of her eggs were her twins so what ended up happening was some of her children were genetically not hers. They had her twins genetics. She almost lost her children until they did biopsies from different organs where it showed she had two sets so she could keep her kids.
@@Rinsuki do you have the case report? It's interesting
Yeah there was a case like that, when an only child woman get a DNA with her kids it came out that they were her nieces and nephews
She’s lucky her twin wasn’t male. I’ve seen cases where they were half male half female and had a lot more medical issues. Still really interesting having two sets of DNA. One lady had such a struggle proving her children were actually hers because DNA said otherwise. Also makes you wonder about crimes and the justice system.
I am female chimera with male dna
Leah no way, can you elaborate on you’re situation?
@@Leah-vb4vq stop lying. It doesn't work that way.
@Yanny pup Chimeras are fraternal twins, not conjoined. Different thing.
It certainly does work this way and quite a few seem to be females with retained male twins
"I am my own twin"
"SHE. IS HER OWN. TWIN. ...explain what that means"
She is her own twin 😤
LOLOL
@@stonergee420 best explaination ever
Im satisfied
3:32 she carries her twins DNA, blood stream and immune system
She is her Own Twin
Dwight had the same thing in The Office. So he has the strength of a grown man and a tiny baby.
From the comment up 👆?
i was thinking of that 😆 and i saw your comment
The Asian lady in the audience seating behind her is feeling it lol
Paulo Guzzon 🤣🤣
Lol
Paulo Guzzon I’ve noticed this occurring in a few of these interviews. Maybe the producers tell everyone who sits in that sit that they will be in the view of the camera throughout the interview
Thanks, now I can't stop staring at her lol 😂😂😂
Paulo Guzzon oh man... If I had that seat I would have been fidgeting in the background so bad they would stop filming and reseat me. Lolol
I seriously love the mark on her stomach, makes her so special and unique shes beautiful
hana d Absolutely agree! 😍
Yea I'd hit it
I like it too
She so beatuiful.
hana d REALLY? IT DOESN'T MAKE HER BETTER,GREATER,SPECIAL.She will get sick,grow old and due, just like the rest of us.smh!!!
Hope her immune system gets better. She's definitely a beautiful special person.
I’m a twin and I couldn’t image my life without my beautiful loving sister. She is my other half our souls our soo connected supernaturally
Me too!
I am also a twin and can’t image my life without my twin .She is my other half.
Identical or fraternal? I’m willing to entertain the notion that there may be some type of special, as yet not fully understood bond between identical twins, with "fraternals" though, the relationship DNA-wise, is no closer than it would be had the twin been born years before or after the other. Of course fraternal twins grow up together and thus may develop a closer emotional bond than most siblings, but as to some mystical bond, _maaaybe_ just maybe, it might exist with an identical twin, with a fraternal twin though, no, the idea is nonsense.
@@gregoryreese8491 Umm I'll slide in my input as a fraternal twin and say that what you just typed out was kinda weird and also mildly rude though I don't think you intended for it to be that way. But for future reference, you shouldn't go around stating that fraternal twins having a special or spiritual bond is "nonsense" because there are plenty of identical twins that hate and can't stand each other and plenty of fraternal twins that are deeply connected to each other.
O.o your other have . That is nice to have a sibling as your soul mate . There is not problem with romance in your soul mate relationship
“I ate my twin in the womb”-pitch perfect
Megan lol
"I have gills like a fish"
sameeee
Megan. Your weird!!!
It's not funny
Goes psycho on her boyfriend. "You cheated on me with my twin sister!"
Boyfriend: "Uh.."
They were fraternal... Could have cheated with her brother. 🙈
@@zoeymarie28 that was a joke too 🙈
;)
YOU CAME ON MY SISTERS STOMACH ,CHEATER!
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When she said she can’t speak for anyone else...
Vanessa U. 😂😂😂
Underrated comment
HahahA
Vanessa U. That’s a good thing.
Vanessa U. 😹😹
The greatest relief is knowing your issue ,when I was a kid I was always dumped because I had low energy and exhaust pretty quick ,The thing was my parents hide from me that I had ASD ,A hole in heart .Even the doctors told that time the earlier the surgery is done the better .I get to know about it on 21 when I had to undergoes a checkup .But that changed my life .I was the depressed person suddenly like woke .The first thing I did was gather money for the surgery did surgery in just 1 year ,Now am 23 and have a perfect life .
So happy for you!
@@laurieb3703 Thanks a lot ❤️
Im so happy for you sweetie
so happy for you!
Ducking parents !!! M glad u r good now
The lady in the background has such a beautiful, kind face and compassionate expression.
My parents used assisted fertility and wound up having triplets: myself, my brother, and my sister. There were four fertilized eggs that were put into her womb and there were four heartbeats to start out, but one had suddenly disappeared between ultrasounds. I have a line down my stomach kind of like Taylor's where there's two different skin tones on either side, so it's interesting to think that I could have the same sort of thing as her.
You should watch, The twin inside me. I recall watching it several years ago. Two sets of DNA.
I'd love to know if you have this
How much like Taylors? Id love to see your birthmark....i have the same one.
@@tiannavivianroberts3847 It's not nearly as pronounced, but I've noticed a line for years. I've never had any health issues that can be explained by this, so it could just be a simple sort of birthmark.
Its crazy...
I have a few things
Eczems
Asthma
Hayfever
Oral allergy syndrome
Glossitis
And brachydactyly type d...my right thumb is almost a centimetre shorter than my left one.
They're mostly inflammatory issues....i have many questions i need answers to
I have an identical twin. She is five minutes older than me. We are in our forties and she is my best friend. I empathize with her wondering what it would have been like growing up with a twin, or even a sibling. I was blessed with six siblings total and now that my parents are gone, they are even more important to me.
I love hearing that she has a best friend who is like a sister to her. I pray her health gets better.
all i noticed was the older Asian lady's facial expressions in the background 4:21-4:27
and well through out the video
Yes. They shouldn't have people's faces in the background. It detracts from the conversation you're trying to focus on. lol
🤣🤣
She doesn't start doing it till she suddenly seems to notice something off camera at 3:35 - I'm guessing she seen herself on a screen and thought she better start emoting. 😒
@@Kazza_8240 I think you're needed in the FBI for detecting all that,
@@yejideasocham9185 thanks man 😁
I saw this disorder years ago on a HOUSE episode. The kid was having severe and very odd medical problems and hallucinating. Good 'ol HOUSE figured it out.
jn wd
I miss that show so so so much!
We sure could use some doctors like House! need some people to think outside the box!
Mad house isn't on Netflix 😩
What episode?
According to everyone but house it was lupus until he figured out it never was. I always wanted the finale to be that house ended up dying of lupus. Can you say epic!
“When my mother was pregnant, they discovered she had twins. When they did an ultrasound later, they realized I had re-sorbets the fetus. Now, I have the strength of a grown man and a tiny baby.“ - Dwight Schrute
Absorbing a non viable fetus
Wow that cool 💏
P
I don't understand why medical professionals didn't immediately recognize this. The first picture of her abdomen told me immediately that she was a Chimera. I was just a nurse, not a doctor, but I was instantly sure of what was going on here. In any event, I'm glad she finally has the answers she needs.
I don't get why they don't check this things in internet or books. They have patients whit unusual signs and marks which obviously can be a clue to something else and they don't dig into it. Good medical professional is one that approach each case with curiosity and use they brain to connect facts which may be unique for every patient.
@@ivaniliev2272because it’s rare and hardly even happens so it’s hard to identify
WOW! I have had a line down my stomach my entire life, with one side darker too! I have had similar health issues also. Mind blown!
I have the same birthmark
Everybody has a line down their stomach thought this doesn't apply to you because you don't have the same thing. Sorry about that but you're not special.
@@patman0250 not everybody
@@beeduo870 everybody just got to look harder.
@@patman0250 I looked hard. I don’t see a line. 🤷♀️
3:00 "When I lifted my shirt, I could see that he was blown away" I laughed a bit too hard at this.
IoI just when I thought I had the dirtiest mind ever.
Lol same
If you can't post the whole thing, don't post at all.
No kidding... where's the interview with the Mom?
Right!!
MOMMA SAID!!
I did want to see the rest of the interview myself
😂😂😂 i know right
starts at 3:02
by time I got to this helpful comment, it LITERALLY started.
actually it starts at 0:00 lmao
Lacy Archer the interesting part.
J'von Ramgeet Same
I just learned about Chimera today. It blows my mind that a Mother actually absorbs the cells from her babies into her organs. I also read about this situation where a guy who suffered from serious drug addiction issues throughout his life, was left handed and right footed, he found out he had this condition, he apparently also suffered from autoimmune issues because his hair was falling out in patches. My kids are twins, it makes me wonder if they in the womb, could have absorbed some of each other’s cells? Maybe this can explain the closeness between twins in life. This really is absolutely fascinating. I’m so happy that this young lady was able to get to the answers and improve her health!
Oh can't eat the spaghetti because the handle is huge and dissapeared? Thanks guys
She is gorgeous! I hope she can live a healthy balanced life.
That moment at 3:25 is so Cringe when shes like "I am my own twin" and then pauses waiting for shocked gasps or something..but nobody reacts. Then Megyn tried to save her 😂
That ratings moment ...
Hehe I know. I think everyone was like "what does that even mean"
Im over here thinking the same thing. “I am my own twin.” The F777k does that even mean? Nobody can understand a statement like that
🤣🤣🤣😂😂
A lot of people in the audience reacted....
As a Fraternal twin, I believe this story. My twin brother and I are so different. He is dark and I'm light , he's tall and I'm short, I have big eyes and his eyes are small..when I got pregnant and noone knew, he was vomiting lol
"My body can't keep up with my brain."
I have a chronic illness and I relate to that so hard!
I. Have twins, boy and girl,
I have twins, a boy and girl. My girl twin has multiple problems....PTSD, ADHD, AND so many physical problems.....now, you have me wondering if I would have had triplets.....(they were born in 1963, no ultrasounds back then, and my doctor and I were shocked at the delivery of 2 babies)
Same here, and I have a similar birthmark
If she has a baby, it may not belong to her. A woman with this condition gave birth to a child and DNA tests showed the baby was not the child's mother.
False. She would be the mother however her predominant genetic signature may not match that of her ovaries. She carries two distinct sets of DNA mixed in random places through her body, not alien parts hiding in her torso.
Code Name shes not lying it was a documentary. They eventually had to test the womans hair to determine they were hers. They had even taken her kids accusing her of kidnap eventhough she had proof she birthed them. It took years for them to realize it was chimerism
Nicole Robinson the baby was not the child's mother. That sentence confuses me
Code Name.
Doesn’t seem like you need a DNA test to show that the baby was not the child’s mother
I'm a twin, but my sister was lost in the womb. I found this video to try to feel better 'cause today is one of the days I'm missing her 💔
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Why the facepalms in the replies though?
@@愛-m8l6l no idea
Her face looks different on each side as well. One side is longer, more flat while the other side has a higher cheekbone short jaw/chin
T Leigh and now I can’t stop looking at her face lol but I do have to agree with you. So weird
T Leigh
Absolutely normal.
Her nose too
T Leigh i think it just her make-up and lighting
T Leigh that's always the case, no one is perfectly symmetrical.
The title irritates me. Just say “woman discovers she had fused with her twin” or something
@Little Wolf Girl lmaooooooo!
This makes me wonder how often this could happen and we just don’t know it. 🤔
Indeed my arms have different colours I wonder
@@aiyahauza2102 dude that crazy!
When DNA tests prove someone in jail is innocent, they need to do different kinds of DNA testing to make sure the jailed person doesn't have two different sets of DNA, one making them innocent and one making them guilty!
I remember that show, they accused the mother of kidnapping the child until they took DNA from a different part of the body.
tooth fairy I think that’s what she’s saying, that she remembers the show where that was the case...
tooth fairy it wasn't, same condition. Chimerism.
I saw that same show crazy
Me too.
tooth fairy what's the name of the show please
My Granddaughter at age sixteen had terrible pain in her abdomen was rushed to hospital thinking it was her appendix the doctor came out told us prepping her for surgery was her ovary not appendix . Two hours later he come out told showing us photos of her twin inside her ovary there was teeth long hair over this ball like structure the same color as my Granddaughter also fingers just tiny body parts of an infant. My son and daughter in law were so shocked my daughter in law fell apart knowing there had been identical twins broke all of our hearts by the twin being absorbed by my beautiful Granddaughter. Today my Granddaughter is 30 yrs old and has a little girl now age 3 so thank God a doctor was up to date with this knowledge of twin absorption
Her ovarian cyst is known as a teratoma, they may contain teeth, hair, bone, fat, eyes, and/or organ tissue.
Did she say she has TWO bloodstreams? Connected to one heart?
You’re not the only one confused
Maybe she meant blood type
@@NiaMSnow That's what I think
She has multiple blood types because the sides create different types due to the different DNS of the bone narrows.
Such a straight perfect line... what?!
Asian lady behind be like, "Ahaaaaa...... I knew it" all the time, lol
shut up xD I'm laughing so hard
😂😂😂
Lmao
That's freaking hilarious
Asian lady is always there, behind almost every guest on that show, she's like, a prop!
Try this:
Close your eye and just listen to the lady talk..... doesn’t she sound like Sarah Jessica Parker?
Agree?
Yessss
Haha yes
I came over here to write that comment
My daughter has this “birth mark” on her stomach!! I’ve always wondered about it but just like her everyone says it’s a birth mark!! More information on this would be amazing this is very fascinating
I have the mark too!
Did either of you find out if it’s due to a twin or not?
When asked she can say "I'm an only children"
Wow. Fascinating. It’s like she knew there was something different. I remember a story of a woman who had a child she gave birth to, but her DNA did not match the child. Turns out she had a twin inside her, and THAT twin’s DNA was the biological mother of the child. I’ve also read that many people can carry remnants of their mother’s DNA in them for life.
@3:51 "now I carry my sibling" how does she know that, it could be her sibling carrying her!!
But she's here talking
Mum should have had that ultrasound
Snags Kaciu it wouldn’t have shown anything if the zygotes were fused early on
ultrasounds were super common back then, especially for home births.
I did a DNA test last Christmas and when I pulled up my raw DNA profile, I learned that I have my two X chromosomes but I also have "pepper" pieces of a Y chromosome and to me, this is evidence of the same condition, but of a twin brother I absorbed. I used to have two differently colored eyes, I have a finger with an extra interphalangeal line and a patch of skin on my arm that tans differently and one toe that's longer than the matching toe.
She has the same voice as Sarah Jessica Parker, dont you think?
vjpaddy2010 she kinda looks like her too!
Agreed
She absolutely does and now I can’t get it outta my head 😂
vjpaddy2010 omg she sounds just like her
vjpaddy2010 nah I don't hear it.
I wonder if she has two souls in there also.
Lol
Lol
Like Beyond: Two Souls 😳
I wandered about that also.
Hmm.. good one !
If you look really close you can see her twin sister’s face on the left side? Truly fascinating that the line is perfectly straight, it couldn’t be a birthmark, it’s precisely another pigment altogether.
People's faces are not always symmetrical anyway, but in this case I noticed the same.
@@LaurieWilliams-lk8fc
On the baby photo
omg I legit have the same issue, the left side of my stomach is darker than the other and there’s this straight line. now I’m shook
Amani Jay have you gone to the doctor?
Martha Dung growing up and going to checkups the doctors told me it’s just hyper pigmentation and my symptoms could be from my eyes ( I had a really strong prescription and got migraines and nausea really easy )
Pictures for proof please
Omg we need updates!
Have you done any genetic testing?
Wow! She has an Asian lady growing out the side of her neck.
Spider Watson lmao!...awesome
I'm Travelin channel
Why thank you.😉
Spider Watson HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Hahaha😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Totally fascinating! I can't imagine this condition will bode well for her mortality and that's the worst part. Any illness will be challenging for her body to fight and I wish her the very best.
This is one of the most interesting stories I have ever heard!Thanks so much to all who shared.
I have the same on my torso. Only I have freckles on one side. I love it. My Mom did tell me that the doctor mentioned something about me being a Twin
You can’t have 2 blood streams without 2 hearts.
She probably meant blood types.
Twin to twin transfusion syndrome is when one twin absorbs the other twin. That absorbed twin then becomes a parasite that feeds off the other twin.
@@aricmackenthun47 Technically, no. TTTTS is where one twin's blood vessel system is overdeveloped at the the expense of the other twin, and one or both of them will die unless surgeons can intervene with laser surgery (highly risky) to eliminate some of the overdeveloped blood vessels in the one twin to help equalize the blood vessels in the other. It's very dangerous risky surgery with no guarantee of success, but the only way to save them both. My cousin's twins had it and she had emergency surgery in Toronto mid pregnancy to save them. They did make it to the survival mark of 38 weeks gestation and both were born premature but survived. Both are very healthy but have some mild cerebral palsy.
I hope she's ok now with covid running around. 😱
Ikrr!🥺
She has Double Immune System
She can literally say that she absorbed her twin in her mom's stomach to sound badass and it'd be true
This sounds like something out of dragon ball z “ we fuse together “ 😳
Omg not wrong 😮😮😮😮😮
Or Steven Universe. Sheesh.
In all of the above, I think I was thinking of the same things
Interesting story. I suggest you use the term "abdomen" instead of "stomach" . The stomach is an organ in the abdomen which is used in digestion.
How about "belly" or "tummy?
The real question is:
Are her brain cells made of two different DNA types?? That will really freak me out. It's like fusion in Dragonball Z.
I have the same issue on my right arm.It goes from my shoulder to my elbow.When I was a child my grandmother scrubbed it so hard one day thinking it was dirt she made me cry(love my grandmother to bits) but dang she rubbed me raw.My mom came in and told her its a birthmark but boy she sure could not believe it because it was so brown and I am so light skinned.
Your grandmother part is hilarious 😆
I grew up an only child but I was a twin as well. My twin passed away in the early stages of pregnancy so we don’t know if it was a boy or girl. I wish my twin would have lived and been healthy that way we could have grown up together but I know one day I will see her or him again.
I would think this happens more often than people would think. Children just "know" at some level but sometimes can't quantify it. I for instance kept asking my mom if my dad was my real dad. She denied each time. I found out in my 60's through DNA testing that in fact, he was not my biological dad! Another man was and it all makes sense now, including the medical mystery that I had been dealing with all my life. He carried the gene for Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and I was just diagnosed by a geneticist! Bittersweet, but good to finally KNOW my instinct was correct!
She seems like a very sweet person. All the best to her.
Anyone else think of Dwight from the office. “Absorbed my twin in the womb”
I didn’t absorb my twin but I tried to starve him to death 🤷🏻♀️
Failed tho
Omg
How is your relationship post womb😂😂
nia johnson not great, I think he still holds a lot of resentment towards me for that 🤷🏻♀️ 😂 it’s been 23 years and he still hasn’t gotten over it
😂😂😂
Megan too funny #sns
I am an identical mirror twin, and I cannot believe the pain of your loss, truth of your discovery, and now the unlocking of your life.
Truly amazing story. She's deals with it incredibly and she's very beautiful. My question is, knowing how her immune system is sort of battling with itself, is her life expectancy affected by this at all?
THE ASIAN LADY IN BACKGROUND --------------> Is actually a Triplet. She repeatedly performs 3 different gyrations. She nods in approval. Then her eyes dart to the floor in disbelief. Then she seems to not approve. Interesting triple genre. I wish she was a quadruplet so the 4th child could "set straight" the other 3. And make them all pay better attention to the twins.
Keedeeaylaison Meghalowtsika I wonder if the production team told her to be all dramatic with her facial expressions?
*Your friend catches you talking to yourself
Friend: Are you talking to yourself?
You: No, I'm having an arguement with my twin who I absorbed a long time ago
I saw a cat online who has this condition, she has half face blonde, half face black
Ling DaSweetPie yes That's Venus the 2 faced cat
yeah.
There is always a relevant cat online for every story
Venus isn't actually a chimera though.
They finally tested her and found out that she wasn't.
She's just a tortoiseshell that happens to be a split face (which is VERY common in tortoiseshell cats).
There is a photo of a cat being circulated on line, which is made up of patches + stripes of various distinct colors.The tagline is like "when you're the last cat made for the day and the factory has run out of matching parts."
Many of us as human beings have become so much more aware of our world ourselves and our universe in modern times, Amazing
Dima Andro Totally!
Dima Andro a sign of end times?
There was an episode of House M.D. about this very thing. When twins get too close, they can fuse together and even absorb one of them like her. Two sets of DNA, sometimes two sets of cells in the brain causing very life-like hallucinations.
Imagine if that twin had its own feelings but it can’t express them because it’s trapped inside another person.
I know it’s pretty impossible but still
Thats incredible.
She absorbed some of the cells of her twin, whilst a tiny foetus, which gives her two sets of DNA and two blood types. That does not make her her own twin.
Sensible audience for not overreacting.
At 5:44 look at the lady in the back.
This is exactly why I don't watch this channel. There is no follow up video here.
What I find so intriguing is that the line is SO straight!!!
My twin was 5lbs 6oz. I was 3lbs 3oz. Boy/girl. He came out first. My parents didn't even know I was in there 😆 but, he got to go home and bond. I was in a incubator like the one for chickens for 3 months. With cracked ribs and a broken leg. The moral to this story is we fought almost daily but, I kicked his butt! Until puberty and he became 6'3 in like a day. After that he won and we no longer fight. People thunk twins are so close we can read each other's thoughts. Not true with boy/girl twins. We are 53 now and I don't know anything about him. If I passed him on the street I wouldn't recognize him. Sad I know. But it's better this way.
Tracy Thornton that's unfortunate
Sad story
Sad...but am I horrible for laughing at how you described your incubator? ❤
And it's not your fault you two couldn't form a psychic bond...males sometimes will even *admit* that they can actually NOT be thinking a single thought in their heads!
Tracy Thornton. Tracy Thornton that may be your experience. I had fraternal twins. Boy/girl they are so intune when she got pregnant he got morning sickness. When he got pulled over by cops for racing she had an asthma attack. When she went into labor he got pains. When she rolled the car and was lost for 12 hours no one could find her he dreamed the exact location of her accident. They are 30 years old and live 4 hours apart and still have the same connection. She smokes he has smokers cough every morning! Twins connected for life! Whether you want to feel or not. Unless your father by different sperm like that dude said in the comments......
My daughter has a birthmark like that..its all on her stomach and one of her arms.
Totalchaos1983 0 yeah I was told ut was a birth mark only it went all the way down one leg and formed a v od diamond shape on my right leg.
Interesting hmm
Totalchaos1983 0
Under black light a chimera will have a visible swirling pattern on their back. Look at your daughter with one.
2degucitas and an affinity for harry potter
Totalchaos1983 0 i too have 2 birthmarks.one huge one on left thigh and a smaller one on right thigh
I hope and pray she gets better. She seems like a real good person...
My Grand mom gave birth to 3 sets of twins. 1 set lived but other 2 lost their sibling at birth. However my cousin who was born from my single aunt twin, had a physical due to pains in abdomin.
Doc. Discovered my cousin had a twin that was fused to her overy it had bone hair and size of a softball. ... odd stuff
Wow
I wonder if she has dreams or can emotionally feel her twins Spirit
Joanna deymonaz Probably not.
This is so crazy and fascinating
ugh... megyn Kelly trying to be like oprah is beyond cringy
RedYellowBlue I think she’s doing a great job.
My IMMEDIATE thought when she began speaking
you get a like she gets a like your twin gets a like everyone gets a like
I'm unsure who Meghan Kelly is but she has such a lovely voice.
How crazy! I have the exact same markings on my stomach. Straight down the middle one side is the color of the rest of my body and the other half is white. I use to get teased by guys I dated calling me an ‘oreo’ but now I don’t feel so odd!
WOW! I'm a twin! incredible story.Beautiful young woman.
How many actual twins are out there on UA-cam?
Hey there, I'm a twin!! My sister is exactly 1minute older than me, we use to dress a like up till we were about 10 or 11 years old, having a twin is so very cool. We now are 60 years old
Bluemarvel Jean I'm a fraternal twin
I wish I had a twin TT
Bluemarvel Jean I'm not a twin, but I went to school with some kids from a family with 3 sets of identical twin boys, each set about 2 years apart from the others, and all 6 of the kids looked a lot alike as well. It was pretty strange to see them walking to school.
Bluemarvel Jean Im a fraternal twin!! I have a twin sister who’s 1 minute older than me :)