So the 2nd interviewee is saying they travelled a long watery distance to come to the hole. The shop owners are receiving the food parcels but they’re keeping everything for themselves. They survive on Hot water, Salt and Six Gun Spice. He only saw 2 dead bodies. Their bosses are releasing them, but they don’t know when the bosses will resurface. He’s estimating that they might be around 170 people where he was. He couldn’t respond to the other questions regarding his age and duration of stay underground due to language barriers.
Marcell!!! How can you ask an illiterate person to tell you how many people are there???......illiterate people all Tsongas down there!!! Madachwana wale Mozambique
@@marcelbaloyi6586 thanks for the intervention/ translations because the Xitsonga guy was really giving a lot but the language barrier was the problem 🙏 much appreciated 🙏....so it's true that* underground people are not trapped* ,they are working,only a few who did not know about their kind of *new* job...or even the latter may not be true, it's just that conditions underground are unpalatable?
Theres no such a thing like a Tsonga presenter please man!!!! ZULUS AND SOTHOS LEARN AND PRESENT IN TSONGA TSONGAS CANT DO THIS! THEYLL GIVE US WRONG INFORMATION
Yerrr. With my stance on the rule of law still intact, this is really sad. My African brothers going through so much because of poverty. Nobody would wish this harsh conditions to their worst enemies, just to put bread on the table.😢
Correction. The 3rd miner says he was forced to barter his cellphone for 500ml of mageu. He did not sell it for R500 as the reporter translated. But kudos to her overall to trying to speak in different languages.
Yes, I don't speak the language, but I understood it that way. And the part about guns that are underground, the 1st Miner was referring to Six Gun Grill spice that they were eating spice, vinegar, water etc. Kudos to the reporter, she tried.
Kudos to the interviewers not only trying to understand /translate, but for the gentle empathy too. No aggressive reporters pushing and shoving or shouting over each other. They all realised compassion was needed, no matter their personal opinions. Kudos to them all.
A 14 year old mozambiqan is mature, responsible, well travelled, already abroad, working to feed himself and his family, as some 40 year olds somewhere idle at home, living on mums food and social grants
I feel so sorry for these young men...They are not evil, they work under terrible and dangerous conditions to try and provide for themselves and their families...
@@godfreyberry1599 sad tht u feel this way about 16 year olds that are not robbing raping or killing anyone but instead risking their lives for their livelihood. Wow
@@Her_Self..criminal is a criminal they should be in school not under ground taking what does not belong to them finish. Who don't want to provide for their families?why don't they do this in their countries?useless nxa
This has changed my view and stance about the Zamazama treatment.....they need help rather than being abondoned there....The Push Factor is well know ..Its Poverty among African communities ..Our Governments are the cause
The painful thing is that they are just workers. Someone, a South African, is behind this and benefiting from their hard work instead of mining legally and employing SA citizens. Who is the enabler?
I am surprised by people like Mbangula who denies that there are people underground that are held without their will. I understand that this industry needs to be regulated but what is happening now is crime to keep people underground without their will.
There's so much lies among all of them. Reporters, please go and focus on South Africans that are starving to death everyday due to poverty. Leave SAPS deal with all those illegal minors, with their stories.
The fact that you can detect lies is because of such reporters who work tirelessly getting us to understand and dispel myths.... nonetheless you remain dumb ..Domkop
Heartbreaking indeed. Those people obviously didn't know where they are going. Charging them will never assist in anyway if kingpins are still out there..
The is a lot of misunderstanding in this interview, the presenter should have found a Tsonga understanding person or police officer who can translate between the two sothat we can fully understand what is happening underneath.
His asking if the people who down there should be assisted as they need assistance inside there. They were not eating anything besides salt, and he has not been able to eat anything for days now. His sharing that the people who are underground are alot and he cannot confirm how many are they.
There are no victims here, goog for nothing NPO' S NGO its where they make their money. SA is becoming a lawless state by the day. 6 months underground, today you are a victim. Come now mzansi,😂😂😂😂
everyone is going to get out with a painful story we can't buy that this people knew what they were doing Let them go to jail Small fish Big fish everyone
These are the poor souls that many South Africans wanted to see being starved and „smoked out“. Shame on you, who adopted the evil spirits of Verwoerd and PW Botha!
Tsonga and Sotho journalists should've done these interviews since we all know the miners are zimbambweans, sothos and mozambicans. zimbabweans can usually speak english.
that is bad to find some situation that the top government people new what they do with other people in order to get rich themselves,but not talking the truth here out side the bublic,wherexus the law
This is painful becouse what I know is that the very same police officials are the one who are using this innocent people to collect gold for them,while they are enjoying life on the surface.
Cross a border, illegal, go under, come out when all is done with gold worth 20k. Come Steve, they are out to fetch the necessity, so they be there for ever.
south African, stop being arrogant, this cases are very serious, it's about time something be done, you will only realize it when your own families are the ones in the same situation
Our families are the police that y’all want to go rescue illegal miners who apparently went to commit a crime because of poverty…. Whose life is more important than the other??
Without a doubt, Ramaphosa is the worst president ever. The fact that he succeeded someone as bad as Zuma tells the sad tale of what this country has been through.
A translator who understands the language is needed in such instances. Their statements to the public are very important, we cannot afford to not understand what they are bringing to us.
This industry won't end until SAPS finds out who are the customers buying these unrefined minerals and arming these miners. It's really a pointless fight
So basically the newsroom is protecting all of this... This guys just said these bosses and people under ground who are incharge and refuse them proper food but the interviewer is not interested on that part... So it means serious power people including media are benefiting. These Mozambique guys are just working for the guys down there
The bosses are keeping the workers week so that they can't climb out. They know the police won't climb down. Now they have the people sending food to the wrong people
This young lady doesn't understand the language and how she's going to interpret because she is going to tell us lies. She must not interview someone she cannot understand hi language.
So the 2nd interviewee is saying they travelled a long watery distance to come to the hole. The shop owners are receiving the food parcels but they’re keeping everything for themselves. They survive on Hot water, Salt and Six Gun Spice. He only saw 2 dead bodies. Their bosses are releasing them, but they don’t know when the bosses will resurface. He’s estimating that they might be around 170 people where he was. He couldn’t respond to the other questions regarding his age and duration of stay underground due to language barriers.
Marcell!!! How can you ask an illiterate person to tell you how many people are there???......illiterate people all Tsongas down there!!! Madachwana wale Mozambique
Much appreciated
only criminals in ANC can sit down and plan how to starve people
@@marcelbaloyi6586 thanks for the intervention/ translations because the Xitsonga guy was really giving a lot but the language barrier was the problem 🙏 much appreciated 🙏....so it's true that* underground people are not trapped* ,they are working,only a few who did not know about their kind of *new* job...or even the latter may not be true, it's just that conditions underground are unpalatable?
I like six gun spice on steak. its delicious
Refiloe has been absolutely brilliant covering this ongoing story...what a fantastic journalist she is. 👍👍👍🙏👍
LOL.She don't ask relavant questions.She protect criminals and attact the law
Please get XiTsonga presenters, moving forward. It's obvious that there are still many Mozambicans underground
Theres no such a thing like a Tsonga presenter please man!!!! ZULUS AND SOTHOS LEARN AND PRESENT IN TSONGA TSONGAS CANT DO THIS! THEYLL GIVE US WRONG INFORMATION
@@thabosoweto3094 hawu 😅😅😂😂😂😂
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@@thabosoweto3094😂
Yerrr. With my stance on the rule of law still intact, this is really sad. My African brothers going through so much because of poverty. Nobody would wish this harsh conditions to their worst enemies, just to put bread on the table.😢
Cry of my heart indeed , this is really sad , very sad ,people are hungry, need jobs , sad indeed to see this young men !
Correction. The 3rd miner says he was forced to barter his cellphone for 500ml of mageu. He did not sell it for R500 as the reporter translated. But kudos to her overall to trying to speak in different languages.
Yes, I don't speak the language, but I understood it that way. And the part about guns that are underground, the 1st Miner was referring to Six Gun Grill spice that they were eating spice, vinegar, water etc. Kudos to the reporter, she tried.
Kudos to the interviewers not only trying to understand /translate, but for the gentle empathy too. No aggressive reporters pushing and shoving or shouting over each other.
They all realised compassion was needed, no matter their personal opinions. Kudos to them all.
@@Masonwabe_Kwata....Mara they do refer to having seen guns underground...
This reporter is super excellent SISTER u will go far ❤❤❤
It's clear that the are big fish behind this syndicate.....more investigations must take place.
A community member went down to tell them to surface, they said they were waiting for instruction from there Generals. Makes you wonder.
Exactly, south african criminals are protected by police.
And it seems like they have communications with the outside world 😮
Props to the interviewer listening to 5 different languages mixed together and figuring out what they are saying.
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I'm hearing tsonga from the one with the white cloth over his head. I understood most of what he said.
Most South Africans understand most of our languages, it's pronouncing them back were it becomes a issue
@ZuluBill most South Africans except for the KZN Zulus...🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️
They live in your head rent free neh @mphosa995
Mozambique must educate it's citizens to curb this problem
A 14 year old mozambiqan is mature, responsible, well travelled, already abroad, working to feed himself and his family, as some 40 year olds somewhere idle at home, living on mums food and social grants
@jameskillu9171 poverty is the reason why you find child labourers
Can we perhaps get an indication of how many people that have resurfaced to date are from which nationality? Just for a statistical information.
I feel so sorry for these young men...They are not evil, they work under terrible and dangerous conditions to try and provide for themselves and their families...
Criminals always play the family and food on the table 💩 when caught. These are violent criminals helping themselves to whatever's not guarded 24/7 .
@godfreyberry1599 I Pray that circumstance will.put you in that position, so that you may learn some humility and compassion
They Criminals and again why don't they go and dig under their mother s homes
@@godfreyberry1599 sad tht u feel this way about 16 year olds that are not robbing raping or killing anyone but instead risking their lives for their livelihood. Wow
@@Her_Self..criminal is a criminal they should be in school not under ground taking what does not belong to them finish. Who don't want to provide for their families?why don't they do this in their countries?useless nxa
This has changed my view and stance about the Zamazama treatment.....they need help rather than being abondoned there....The Push Factor is well know ..Its Poverty among African communities ..Our Governments are the cause
The painful thing is that they are just workers. Someone, a South African, is behind this and benefiting from their hard work instead of mining legally and employing SA citizens. Who is the enabler?
African leaders should find ways to create sustainable work for its citizens in this continent
I am surprised by people like Mbangula who denies that there are people underground that are held without their will. I understand that this industry needs to be regulated but what is happening now is crime to keep people underground without their will.
Lega mining is regulated. No need to regulate this. This is dangerous.
Those holes must be closed. You go further without Geologist and mining Engineers
Julius EFF go help your people.They will listen to you if you ask them to surface from underground
these people needs help, please 🙏 This people are kidnapped, literally, please help them
Send your husband to help them please
I dont think South Africans r united like that ... @WillamShauke
That's their story & they're sticking to it.
Go help them babes…. Police ain’t going there same as the soldiers. They have families too.
Let's join hands fight back for our country this country was givine to us by our forefathers
Zama Zamas will say anything for the government to feel sorry for them
Their clothes are clean, not dirty from working underground.
This is sad, our brothers suffer in the hands of the evil corrupt elites
Mastermind is enjoying Hennessey with slay queens 😢😢😢
miners are innocent, and victims of abuse by mining kingpins, who are untoucjables
Far from innocent
...true, their poverty and ignorance are used to enrich the predators and criminals.
South Africa Mzantsi
Somalians top of the ground
Mozambiquens bottom of the ground
Lol 😂
😅😅😅😅😅up and down it's busy😅😅😅 in SA
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We are under siege!
There's so much lies among all of them. Reporters, please go and focus on South Africans that are starving to death everyday due to poverty. Leave SAPS deal with all those illegal minors, with their stories.
😂😂😂 Nje
Exactly😂
Learn to spell n also learn to have compassion. They r starving 16 yr olds. Have a soul
Some are south Africans
The fact that you can detect lies is because of such reporters who work tirelessly getting us to understand and dispel myths.... nonetheless you remain dumb ..Domkop
This is a scary situation,I wonder how many are dead inside there 😢,
It's not scary they want to be there
This is traumatizing
Anc,Frelimo,Zanu pf ,Swapo,u sold our people.
Bravo....the only truthful comment ebengidinga lana
this miners emerging are also victims, please help
Refiloe you deserve the Award for the Best Investigative Journalist for 2024 WE LOVE YOU SIS
Our government is weak if i was in charge, i should have solved these issues last month
Lol, you cant be in charge,due to evil, God looks at the heart , befor appointing a leader
By doing what, provide solutions Chief, don't just talk on this platform
How and who are you
@NeoSehloho-p1f I'm human. If I had power having all the resources why should I fail
They are selling fake sausages in Khyalisha and you do nothing. NOTHING!!
With the municipalities having sewage problems must just lead those pipes into the mineshafts this will solve the problem of sewage and zama zamas.
You would wish that on your enemy?
WOWU!!! WHAT AN INHUMAN CRUEL SUGGESTION AS IF THOSE PEOPLE UNDERGROUND ARE THE CSUSE OF THE PROBLEMS YOU ARE CURRENTLTY FACED WITH.
@@MncediMbambani wasn’t it Marie Antoinette that said “Let them eat cake”?
Can’t be a mere coincidence.
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A sad story for Mozambicans I have my cousins who are zama zamas l hope they are listening
So your cousins are criminals?
Am happy @ least today NO "Zimbabweans" word was mentioned. At least you now know the true definition of a foreigner
Heartbreaking indeed. Those people obviously didn't know where they are going. Charging them will never assist in anyway if kingpins are still out there..
This is a circus waist of money busy entertaining criminals, lying about there age.can you
The is a lot of misunderstanding in this interview, the presenter should have found a Tsonga understanding person or police officer who can translate between the two sothat we can fully understand what is happening underneath.
His asking if the people who down there should be assisted as they need assistance inside there. They were not eating anything besides salt, and he has not been able to eat anything for days now. His sharing that the people who are underground are alot and he cannot confirm how many are they.
Get a Tsonga journalist to able understand them, and able to ask them
There are no victims here, goog for nothing NPO' S NGO its where they make their money. SA is becoming a lawless state by the day. 6 months underground, today you are a victim. Come now mzansi,😂😂😂😂
everyone is going to get out with a painful story we can't buy that this people knew what they were doing
Let them go to jail
Small fish Big fish everyone
The lust for and after money to the root to all forms of evil!!!!!!😂😂😂
Where is the story of being trapped ?
Trapped by other criminals and food MUST be supplied to feed the criminals !!
What a joke !!
Sent ARV n condoms down
These are the poor souls that many South Africans wanted to see being starved and „smoked out“.
Shame on you, who adopted the evil spirits of Verwoerd and PW Botha!
Life is such a struggle for many black people😢
3 Mozambicans?
Others are dying due to hunger as he concluded.
Please give them food,those people are tired and hungry
😭😭😭😭😭 not easy to see painful lifestyle Eish
The reporters have nothing else to do so they hang out here in stilfontien. The should leave the area so the police can do their work.
I think he did not say the phone was sold for 500 rand but for 500g of mageu so sad
The journalist must leave that place so that the police can do their work
Tsonga and Sotho journalists should've done these interviews since we all know the miners are zimbambweans, sothos and mozambicans. zimbabweans can usually speak english.
that is bad to find some situation that the top government people new what they do with other people in order to get rich
themselves,but not talking the truth here out side the bublic,wherexus the law
This is painful becouse what I know is that the very same police officials are the one who are using this innocent people to collect gold for them,while they are enjoying life on the surface.
6 guns, they're talking about spice that they're eating, not actual guns.
Goodness me😭😭😭😭 imagine drinking water with salt and eating colgate 😮
Cross a border, illegal, go under, come out when all is done with gold worth 20k. Come Steve, they are out to fetch the necessity, so they be there for ever.
...and now they think they can dupe us? 🤔
south African, stop being arrogant, this cases are very serious, it's about time something be done, you will only realize it when your own families are the ones in the same situation
Ay we got our own problems to deal with! Why don’t you help them?
Our families are the police that y’all want to go rescue illegal miners who apparently went to commit a crime because of poverty….
Whose life is more important than the other??
What is arrogant about enforcing the law ?
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ubyou can ask that again
AU is useless, SADC is dead, and politicians are clinging to power, there is no hope for Africans.
modern day slavery happening in south africa
language barriers for intelligence is crucial if we are really need to gather information
This is so painful 🥺 These desperate laaities are basically enslaved in a foreign land, underground at that 😭💔
It's tough Africa
Without a doubt, Ramaphosa is the worst president ever. The fact that he succeeded someone as bad as Zuma tells the sad tale of what this country has been through.
Why? Because illegal immigrants and miners got themselves into this mess? How is Ramaphosa part of this?
Time to resolve issues of the past not complain in that manner...
@@stephenmachipi9708 All these crises are getting worse and worse under his administration. He refuses to take action on everything.
A translator who understands the language is needed in such instances. Their statements to the public are very important, we cannot afford to not understand what they are bringing to us.
"Tlala e ntshitse dinoga moleteng" Ke Sepedi seo...
"Di poppe dans now..."
More emergency cars and police please...😐
These small boys are carriers, i see them everyday. She is driving the interviews.
How did they get under an abounded mine ? Why aren’t they getting arrested?
What’s happening guysss??
He is speaking xitsonga
Unemployment rate is too high and the youth enjoys short cuts. 😢
In south africa but those are foreign nationals
Why judge foreign pple south African use nyaopes
This industry won't end until SAPS finds out who are the customers buying these unrefined minerals and arming these miners. It's really a pointless fight
Can Vavi get his ass down there
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He won't
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He says, they're eating salt and six gun spice and drink water to survive.
So basically the newsroom is protecting all of this... This guys just said these bosses and people under ground who are incharge and refuse them proper food but the interviewer is not interested on that part... So it means serious power people including media are benefiting. These Mozambique guys are just working for the guys down there
Ngaze ngafisa ukukuzwa we oe Second interview 😢
Bakhona kuma comments asebetolikile 😂😂 okukhulu engikutholayo ukuthi bayadabukisa. Ingabe loko kusho ukuthi sikhohlwe yini ukuthi nabo baphula umthetho?
Those people's are Hijacked 😢
He meant 500ml mageu not R500
This is very sad
No Subtitles Newzroom
This is great advertising for 6gun😂😂😂
Subtitles would have been appreciated in this video hey...
Would like to see who the "big fish" are!
Why our Government don't help our Soldiers who are in DRC Congo and who are South African with dis money mara
The bosses are keeping the workers week so that they can't climb out. They know the police won't climb down. Now they have the people sending food to the wrong people
I understand everybody 😮😮😮😮😮😮
This is sad
What languages are they speaking?
Just listen don't ask 😂😂😂
Mozambican tsonga/ shangaan mixed with sotho
@@siviwembatane3600 🤣🤣🤣can't hear a thing they say...
@@Le_mire_Thanks, no wonder it's difficulty to follow the conversation lol.
Mozambique
The 19year old guy said he sold the phone in exchange for a 500ml of mageu, not R500
Lifaka Coolgati😂😂😂😂😂
So this is actually human slavery in 2024 in South Africa 😢
If it's slavery,who is guilty of that.Are you saying SA is commiting slavery
Bayaphela yindlala abantababantu😭😭😭😭
So des a shop underground😮
St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I cain't go
I owe my soul to the company store
There are syndicates and mastermind who are controlling these poor guys but they must tell the truth so that they can get help
This young lady doesn't understand the language and how she's going to interpret because she is going to tell us lies. She must not interview someone she cannot understand hi language.
Who sent you their?
Plz ubani kade ababhadala who is paying them after work
Please put SA firstly not our problem, how they were employed
These are actually children whonare misled by empty promises im sure. Hope they were given food and drinks etc
Refiloe the 19 year old man says he sold his phone for 500ml Mageu not R500
Is that the phone that was stolen?.
@@godfreyberry1599 Ehh you gave him a stolen phone, you know more about this case than us😂
This people are not trapped
He said the ones with guns, don't allow them to go out
Really sorry for the young mama's. To ge so young and so desperate.