Phil Collins Explains How He Got "That" Drum Sound
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Phil Collins Explains How He Got "That" Drum Sound
Phil Collins explains how he used compression and noise gated reverb to get that infamous drum sound that became not only his signature, but would end up being the standard recording technique of percussion in the 80s and beyond!
The song Phil ultimately gives an example of is "Intruder" from the 1980 album "Melt" by Peter Gabriel. Phil played drums on that album and the whole thing starts off with that iconic sound.
Special thanks to John Edginton for approved permission to use a clip from his interview with Phil. Make sure to check out his UA-cam channel "John Edginton Documentaries". Incredible footage to explore on there from many amazing artist and musicians.
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The noises he makes with his mouth to exemplify the effect are incredibly accurate
What do you expect... He's been playing the drums for all of his life - AND was a singer :-)
It reminds me of an old Southside Johnny interview where they ask the horn players a stupid question and they all moan "uhhhh" and it actually sounds like a horn section... :-)
It was developed in 1979 by producer Steve Lillywhite and engineer Hugh Padgham while working on Peter Gabriel's self-titled third solo album, after Phil Collins played drums without using cymbals at London's Townhouse Studios.
Padgham claimed he discovered the sound accidentally when he opened an overhead mic, intended to be used as a talkback channel, above Collins's drum set when the pair were working on the track. The microphone was heavily compressed as well as using a gate.
It was the "Listen Mic Compressor" (LMC) of a SSL 4000 Mix-Console.
Ok that makes sense.
This comment needs to be pinned to the top. All these years PC got the credit for the gated reverb trick, yes Mt. Lilywhite & Mr. Padgham are the real creators.
@@robertsinnerman7804yes 🙂 thank you. PC played the drums and the audio engineers dialed in that sound accidentally.
I don't completely believe ole Phil because it was done prior to Gabriel lp which they had to have heard by Tubes, Holdsworth, and hugely by Bowie on Low...this plus eventide harmonizer made that sound... now Townhouse Padgham and Lillywhite certainly perfected it...also let's not forget Drums Wires XTC
That fill in No Self Control is incredible.
Sure is
It's an epic Phil in.
When Peter Gabriel's sound was absolute state of the art (supported by Phil). I remember when I first heard & saw the video of "Shock the monkey" for the first time, I was shocked like a monkey, I felt this is a totally new sound I'd never heard before.
Living legend. Phil
This man is brilliant.
Possibly the best description of "That " sound I have heard. No cymbals!
I love playing this way when I play with sounds.. so much fun:)
That was incredible! And i go to listen "I dont care anymore"
The Abacab album has some great examples of gated reverb as well.
First! Fantastic man what a great video!!!
The man who invented Gated Reverb! He is a genius! In the Air Tonight is the most sampled drum track in history. Also the phenominal intro to ''Second Home By The Sea' (Genesis) the awesome drum intro!
The most sampled drum track in history is in actuality Led Zeppelin's "When the Levee Breaks".
lol. He did not "invent" the gate, nor gated reverb, nor did he make the engineering decisions to create the sound for the recording. That was Hugh Padgham. Phil just played drums.
Who ever sampled In The Air Tonight? The instantly-recognizable tom fill isn't something anybody would sample to make a beat with, and the rest of it is just a CR-78. The most sampled drum tracks are the Amen break, Funky Drummer, When The Levee Breaks, Apache break, Think break, and a bunch more James Brown and Sly & the Family Stone tracks.
@@Tyrell_Corp2019 You're so corny dude you know what scopex meant for fuck's sake
Génie!!🥁🎶💯🔥🙏🏿
Genius!
When was this recorded? Thanks
Just Simmons drums at the begining
The 80s would have sounded a lot different if this little accident didn't happen.
far from an accident :)
It was an accident
@@bibson1405 Ultimately it doesn't matter cause many tracks ended up having 808 or 909 drum machine sounds rather than actual drums.
You compose the closing of the gate to complement the rhythm of the beat
So mixers have to start to learn metronome 😆😅
I'm confused, how does a compressor make the sound last longer? Doesn't he mean reverb?
It compresses by reducing volume on the hit and lifting the volume on the tail from the room. This only works if you record in a space where there is a room sound. so any dry kick sample will need a reverb on it to get a room. Hence the gated reverb
He's referring to the attack and decay on the the hits which is adjusted via the compressor and gives it that tight sound. The reverb is added after
@@5pr1nk57 Sort of. The reverb is actually natural room reverb, completely before the microphone, so it's first. It's then compressed to lift the room reverb and smash the drum sound + ambience together, then last, it's gated.
You could compress drums, add reverb, then add a gate last, but that wasn't done when they discovered this sound, and that would achieve a bit of a different sound, since the reverb would be unaffected by the compressor.
A compressor essentially takes a signal and makes the loud bits quieter and the quiet bits louder, within a set of parameters the engineer dials in (like threshold of the compression kicking in, attack, release etc). You're trying to reduce the dynamic range of the incoming signal and evening it out. Used creatively, it can make sounds sustain longer. The amount of this processing is then affected by the ratio that is set (e.g. 2:1 means that for every 2dB you're above the threshold you've set, you reduce the gain by 1dB). For a snare drum you might use a ratio of 5:1 or more.
hugh padgeham was important on this sound.
Notwithstanding his use of concert toms as well.
Homie got small hands
who gives a fuck lol 😂
Phil's sound was great, but over used by other bands. Just like what I'm explaining to my little brother right now how in metal all the drums sound synthetic, and razor sharp "distortion" guitars all sound fake and shitty . With Ableton live that can 100% replicate those sounds live too. Just sounds thin, weak, and plastic if you will.
And thus, gated reverb was born…..and ruined drums forever.