Suggestion for the 'Drop-down' panel, holding all the 'plugs', put a short piano hinge at the bottom of the panel. This will help keep stuff in order if, or when, you have to work on it. Have Fun!
Well with your preacher's impression is impressive. Your lucky he has a since of humor. Love your show. Keep up the good work. Own A marina that back in the day had a river plane docked here. Maybe one day. Your a inspiration.
Just discovered your channel and although I have no knowledge of electronic or mechanical stuff, I really enjoy watching your channel, keep up the good work and God bless you and your family.
When first turning on a new avionics install, we call it a "Smoke Check." Do they have certified scales for weighing the plane, and figuring the new EWCG, there at that airport? You're going to want to do that as you will probably end up with more useful load.
@@ColtonBlumhagen That also applies to proper torqueing technics. Tighten it up until it smokes, then back it off a half a turn. Tech tip for ya Jimmy ;}>
Great motivation for an individual that wants to become a pilot and owner of my very own plane. Thank You.. Love Peace Wisdom Sincerely Reverend Jose Luis Gonzalez Jr
I have no qualifications to talk about avionics but I have been in the electronics control business for decades and a product manager including cables and harnesses. That’s a standard amp D connector. Those clam shells do come apart. No need to cut. Also I would advise against mounting that many connectors to a hinged panel unless you have the slack to put strain relief loops in all of the cables. I get very nervous whenever I see D sub headers in boxes that are ultimately soldered to PCB’s in high vibration environments. Inside that gold box is probably a PCB and I would hope it’s double sided plated through with lots of soldermask and assembled with leaded solder. This has actually gotten me interested in looking into Electronic assembly standards for aviation. Actual wiring is pretty well laid out in regulations but once you get inside the boxes I am not sure things are as well laid out. Pun intended. Care and planning must be had. Apart from that congratulations on your progress and I am enjoying the videos.
Jimmy I’m sure you already know you need to put straps on the bottom tray to the Suport the avionics goes to the top support I would recommend Mounting the hub with out hinging it.
Been enjoying your videos. Don’t own a plane yet or have a PPL yet. Have designed and built complex mechanical electronic equipment plus Computers, R/C Helicopters and Planes. Looking at the wiring mess behind the Front Panel leaves me with feelings of a disaster waiting to happen. Realize Planes and especially Helicopters have serious vibration issues. Designs can produce a self generating harmonic vibration that could be self destructive when craft isn’t sitting on the ground. Planes would expect to be less of a problem. Each one of the multi-connector plugs should have gold plated male and female pins plus screw connectors at both ends of the ground shield shell. Each lock screw should have its own small lock washers also. Similar to a Military Spec connection, connections might want to have an over all threaded shield. While flying, everything vibrates, including all wires running around the back panel open area. Wire breakage is expected as copper wire work-hardens when flexed causing wires to crack and split. Likewise throwing complex computerized devices into a panel requires close attention to wires interconnecting everything into a working system. Clean and orderly wire layouts should be a real focus. There’s nothing like assembling a system, being up in the air and depending on a complex computer device to then have wires break. Devices stop working, then what do you do? You were flying by wire, now you’re flying by the seat of your pants! It’s recommended that a device layout is drawn up showing all sensors used as inputs to the devices. Reduce messy wiring with tying wire runs to something allowing easy servicing. Older Planes are expected to have separate devices while new planes would have most built in to a few computer devices. Connectors are commonly a source of trouble. Installed Pins are Press locked in by small tabs. They allow easy insertion into a connector and to remove require use of a “tool”! The tool squeezes the tabs releasing the lock connection. Pulling the wire to pull out the pins isn’t recommended. Stressing the copper wire enables future wire breakage. Nicely well organized wires and harnesses nested together offers reliable use.
Jimmy... been there did that...it was great experience. Your next restoration will be easier as you will be wiser. One request. Your videos will be viewed long after your project is completed. Any way to number them in order of progress... ? Thanks
Jimmy I have avionics from a piper Seneca 2 that we are upgrading. Im here in FL as well so let me know if you need any of the stuff i got everything is functioning as i just took off today.
@@therealjimmysworld could put area 760 facing out and for clearance, use 1” spacers on inside hub mount . 760 would give you maps, traffic, etc, but cost way less than a G3
Please let us know how you add power? Do you splice into the existing wires from the circuit breakers or do you add new breakers and wire the breakers to the bus bar?
So above the right yoke I thought you were going to install a chalk board so your "copilot" can write down how fast you think you are going. haha! I was honestly expecting the worst that somehow you would shock yourself when you were turning the power on or at least seeing some sparks fly out! :) On a serious note how many hours do you think you've put in getting up to speed? It sure does beat paying the full A&P rate for sure.
That's a great idea! I could put a tic tac toe on the blank side!! hahaha I figure I'm at about 80 hours now... but that includes all my shop time, so 60 hours of actual work on the plane. I got another 20-30 before it's "done". (A/P & engine monitor + bugs)
I would like to ask you a question how can i can .buy a 172 cessna in good shape or am i getting the cart before the hourse because i have never flew a airplane or taking a class please steer me in the right direction because i am 60 year and i have always been in love with the idea of being a pilot
While you have the panel so far apart, consider installing a flex alert annunciator. www.approachaviation.com/html_pages/flexalert.html Having the landing gear lights up high in your field of view can save an embarrassing gear up. Plus, it looks cool. You might also add a command switch to the right horn of your pilots yoke. The switch can be wired to your 430W to flip active and standby freqs. Very handy on departure. Later on, when you upgrade to a GTN750 it can be used to trigger a voice command action. Easy to put it in now while everything is opened up.
That’s great. May I suggest that if you don’t use the wires that you type up a little note about the wire function and ty-wrap the note to the free end. It really helps when the next owner or tech starts trying to figure out what these “mystery wires” do.
PROGRESS!!! Whooo Hooo! I enjoy your videos so much but feel bad because you spend so much time producing and editing the videos that you have less time to work on your plane. Nevertheless keep .'em coming
good question. No. I am only installing things certified to go on this aircraft. There is a whole process for taking a certified plane and making it experimental and then universes collide if I ever wanted to bring it back to certified...
Makes sense. As long as all the avionics etc are certified its fine to install. Thanks for the reply. I should have thought about that, but I am often confused about what things you can install/work on yourself with aircraft.
Hey Jimmy could you share how difficult was it to hook up the audio panel with the Fast stack. I just ordered mine and was just wondering how plug n play is it really..? thanks.
by far the easiest thing on the airplane. run a ground and power and figure out what inputs (ie: aux 1: i did not use, aux 2: for back passengers, I did use. Had to solder the wires on the passenger headset jacks: easy, all labeled at the ends.) I can't think of anything else...If you can install a car radio, you can do this. Matter of fact a car radio is more complicated than this setup. Also, anytime I had a question, Tim or Shawn(?) was quick to answer my call/email. You will be glad you went with the Fast Stack setup. (I don't even get compensated for that review! lol)
@@therealjimmysworld Since I know you read comments...One of the things that I really like/enjoy about your "show" (besides loving airplanes) is that you are keeping it real. I like how you don't hide the messy details that others don't show. For example, when you make a mistake or something doesn't go exactly "right" - makes it so much more relatable. Along those same lines, I appreciate that it seems as if you are not hiding expenses or details around money; certified aviation has gotten (IMHO) out of control. If you keep it real and keep sharing the details around costs/expenses/sponsorships etc - I hope that you get lots of subscribers and tons of views and quite frankly, I hope you can make lots of money from UA-cam...I mean, really, a kid making a million dollars a year reviewing toys? I thought you would like to know why I keep coming back everyday. I want to help you buy that jet!
thanks! The best part of the journey is all the real stuff! That's where memories are made! Seriously, I need to find that kid and ask him how to make money with this facetube thing... That would be awesome to make money from these videos!
1:10 "... and it'll keep everything up nice and high, away from the yoke so whenever it moves no wires are anywhere near that thing." I was teaching a student aerobatics in a 152 Aerobat and the student, after an aileron roll asked "Is this normal?". I asked "What?" ... and the pitch was OK, but the roll control was jammed (thankfully in a neutral position) solid. I flew it back on rudder and elevator to the field, and it turned out that a loop of avionics wire had caught on the control yoke pin. So - it happens! Got away with that one, too.
Hi my name is Logan.jimmy i live in south Africa near a airport i would like one day to become aircraft engineer. O and also there is a Cherokee caravan ll and a Cherokee 140 it's not my airplanes but I would like to plant to be restored and not lying in a field rusting and waiting for it and.
Where else on UA-cam can you watch an electrical genius who is not sure what he is doing, who makes mini 7-minute videos to perfection, and seems to have the exuberance of an 11-year old boy? When you then realize that he is building an actual aircraft out of used parts which he expects to solo flight at 10,000 ft, yelling "Yippee-Ki-Yay", a little fear and respect sets in - and you know that you will be back for more of this sheer insanity. Something wrong here! 🙄
This would be a lot more enjoyable to watch if the guy in the video didn’t act like a five-year-old half the time. I get excited when things work as well, but I definitely don’t act like that. Hard to watch.
I'm putting a 57 Apache back in the after 26 years. I'd love to contact you and talk about your wiring harnesses. Can you message me on Facebook messenger?
Suggestion for the 'Drop-down' panel, holding all the 'plugs', put a short piano hinge at the bottom of the panel. This will help keep stuff in order if, or when, you have to work on it. Have Fun!
Good idea.
MAKE A BIG MAC COMPARTMENT
Every time I reluctantly watch a UA-cam ad, I’m thinking that I’m somehow indirectly financing that eventual jet of yours.
hahahaha, well, if you are, I ain't seeing any of that money! lol
Your energy, personality, and attitude are awesome! I always enjoy all of your videos and look forward to seeing them!
Thanks so much!
Well with your preacher's impression is impressive. Your lucky he has a since of humor. Love your show. Keep up the good work. Own A marina that back in the day had a river plane docked here. Maybe one day. Your a inspiration.
Jimmy’s tha man.can’t wait for the maiden flight
Me too!
I'm a civilian but I do consider myself a "plane-kind". Very excited to witness the nearly live progress on the Six. Lights and beeps! Wooo-Hooo!
yes!!!
Just discovered your channel and although I have no knowledge of electronic or mechanical stuff, I really enjoy watching your channel, keep up the good work and God bless you and your family.
Jimmy I'm so stoked! And that joy in your voice is just pure! Good man!
Thanks so much!!
The plane is looking done already!
So close!!!
I like that you went modest on the radios, 430w and a kx155 all ya need!
yeah, no need to go crazy.... I mean well.... I'm kinda already there, but the plane can still be normal...right?!
Good job! You didn't let any of the factory smoke out. Its a real pain to put that factory smoke back in.
You got that right!
You are one great guy to watch
Love flying. Just know money yet. But would love to meet you.
When first turning on a new avionics install, we call it a "Smoke Check." Do they have certified scales for weighing the plane, and figuring the new EWCG, there at that airport? You're going to want to do that as you will probably end up with more useful load.
Smoke Test
@@ColtonBlumhagen That also applies to proper torqueing technics. Tighten it up until it smokes, then back it off a half a turn. Tech tip for ya Jimmy ;}>
hahaha, yep!! electronics are powered by smoke! once it gets out, they don't work anymore and it's hard to put that smoke back in there...
exactly!
@@therealjimmysworld absolutely! don't let the smoke out cause it's really hard to put it back in!
You flipped the switch and somewhere in the world all the power went off in a major city!! :D
That would have been super funny to put a clip in there! hahahaha
Great motivation for an individual that wants to become a pilot and owner of my very own plane. Thank You.. Love Peace Wisdom Sincerely Reverend Jose Luis Gonzalez Jr
Congratulations on your progress.
Thank you!
I have no qualifications to talk about avionics but I have been in the electronics control business for decades and a product manager including cables and harnesses. That’s a standard amp D connector. Those clam shells do come apart. No need to cut. Also I would advise against mounting that many connectors to a hinged panel unless you have the slack to put strain relief loops in all of the cables. I get very nervous whenever I see D sub headers in boxes that are ultimately soldered to PCB’s in high vibration environments. Inside that gold box is probably a PCB and I would hope it’s double sided plated through with lots of soldermask and assembled with leaded solder. This has actually gotten me interested in looking into Electronic assembly standards for aviation. Actual wiring is pretty well laid out in regulations but once you get inside the boxes I am not sure things are as well laid out. Pun intended. Care and planning must be had. Apart from that congratulations on your progress and I am enjoying the videos.
Thanks for the comment! Lots of good stuff!
You're a brave man. . . Like the videos, but make them longer, please.
Jimmy I’m sure you already know you need to put straps on the bottom tray to the Suport the avionics goes to the top support I would recommend Mounting the hub with out hinging it.
Roger that
That is awesome dude! Great job!
Thanks!
I love your videos. You are a lot of fun to watch. Keep up the great work. I would love to be able to fly. Age and health reasons prevent it.
Thank you! Glad you enjoy them!
Keep up the great work Jimmy!
Always!
Been enjoying your videos. Don’t own a plane yet or have a PPL yet. Have designed and built complex mechanical electronic equipment plus Computers, R/C Helicopters and Planes. Looking at the wiring mess behind the Front Panel leaves me with feelings of a disaster waiting to happen. Realize Planes and especially Helicopters have serious vibration issues.
Designs can produce a self generating harmonic vibration that could be self destructive when craft isn’t sitting on the ground. Planes would expect to be less of a problem.
Each one of the multi-connector plugs should have gold plated male and female pins plus screw connectors at both ends of the ground shield shell. Each lock screw should have its own small lock washers also. Similar to a Military Spec connection, connections might want to have an over all threaded shield. While flying, everything vibrates, including all wires running around the back panel open area. Wire breakage is expected as copper wire work-hardens when flexed causing wires to crack and split. Likewise throwing complex computerized devices into a panel requires close attention to wires interconnecting everything into a working system. Clean and orderly wire layouts should be a real focus. There’s nothing like assembling a system, being up in the air and depending on a complex computer device to then have wires break. Devices stop working, then what do you do? You were flying by wire, now you’re flying by the seat of your pants!
It’s recommended that a device layout is drawn up showing all sensors used as inputs to the devices. Reduce messy wiring with tying wire runs to something allowing easy servicing. Older Planes are expected to have separate devices while new planes would have most built in to a few computer devices. Connectors are commonly a source of trouble. Installed Pins are Press locked in by small tabs. They allow easy insertion into a connector and to remove require use of a “tool”! The tool squeezes the tabs releasing the lock connection. Pulling the wire to pull out the pins isn’t recommended. Stressing the copper wire enables future wire breakage. Nicely well organized wires and harnesses nested together offers reliable use.
Cool stuff...excellent job
Thanks!
Nice work man keep it up 💪🏼💪🏼
Appreciate it!!
Ooooo... ahhhh... nice!
yay! lights!!!
Jimmy... been there did that...it was great experience. Your next restoration will be easier as you will be wiser. One request. Your videos will be viewed long after your project is completed. Any way to number them in order of progress... ? Thanks
Great suggestion!
Jimmy I have avionics from a piper Seneca 2 that we are upgrading. Im here in FL as well so let me know if you need any of the stuff i got everything is functioning as i just took off today.
I might need a couple things. Email me at jiminize1@yahoo.com
- power outlet & a couple steam gauges are among the list.
Congratulations Brother. Why are you not upgrading to glass panel?
That extra zero at the end over what I’m spending on current panel
Is it really that easy? Just power and grounds? Great job either way! This makes avionics look easy for us A&Ps with no wiring experience
It was the easiest part of this whole build. seriously.
So cool
Might want to consider adding a iPad mini mount to the front side of that plate if possible.
That’s a good idea. What’s your favorite?
Aero 760
that's a good idea
@@therealjimmysworld could put area 760 facing out and for clearance, use 1” spacers on inside hub mount . 760 would give you maps, traffic, etc, but cost way less than a G3
anything would cost less than a G3! lol Thanks for the suggestion.
Please let us know how you add power? Do you splice into the existing wires from the circuit breakers or do you add new breakers and wire the breakers to the bus bar?
Was everybody else holding their breath as the master and each of the other components were slowly turned on? #SilentPastorJimmyPrayer
I should have had a blood pressure monitor on at that moment! 195/140! hahaha
When you found out the KX 155 was good, why didn't you double stack it and have the safety.
OH NO! I can relate to your dorkyness.... so what does that make me? A DORK! ....We should start a club or something.
I’m there!
So above the right yoke I thought you were going to install a chalk board so your "copilot" can write down how fast you think you are going. haha! I was honestly expecting the worst that somehow you would shock yourself when you were turning the power on or at least seeing some sparks fly out! :) On a serious note how many hours do you think you've put in getting up to speed? It sure does beat paying the full A&P rate for sure.
That's a great idea! I could put a tic tac toe on the blank side!! hahaha
I figure I'm at about 80 hours now... but that includes all my shop time, so 60 hours of actual work on the plane. I got another 20-30 before it's "done". (A/P & engine monitor + bugs)
Gee can hook up a old parallel printer. How old are those connectors?
So what do you think this plane will be worth once the rebuild is done? $125K? $175k?
I will gladly sell it for $175k!! Hahaha
Realistically, I figure somewhere around $110k-$120k
I would like to ask you a question how can i can .buy a 172 cessna in good shape or am i getting the cart before the hourse because i have never flew a airplane or taking a class please steer me in the right direction because i am 60 year and i have always been in love with the idea of being a pilot
We’ll, get on it! You could always have a friend fly with you until you have Your license.
Jimmy, did you work on the 737 MAX??
hahahaha
While you have the panel so far apart, consider installing a flex alert annunciator. www.approachaviation.com/html_pages/flexalert.html
Having the landing gear lights up high in your field of view can save an embarrassing gear up. Plus, it looks cool.
You might also add a command switch to the right horn of your pilots yoke. The switch can be wired to your 430W to flip active and standby freqs. Very handy on departure. Later on, when you upgrade to a GTN750 it can be used to trigger a voice command action. Easy to put it in now while everything is opened up.
good suggestions! It's already wired for the flip switch. Not sure if I'm going to install it though...KISS after all
That’s great. May I suggest that if you don’t use the wires that you type up a little note about the wire function and ty-wrap the note to the free end. It really helps when the next owner or tech starts trying to figure out what these “mystery wires” do.
PROGRESS!!! Whooo Hooo! I enjoy your videos so much but feel bad because you spend so much time producing and editing the videos that you have less time to work on your plane. Nevertheless keep .'em coming
Thanks so much!!
Noob question. As you are doing the install on these things. Will the plane be considered experimental? I'm a bit confused about that.
good question. No. I am only installing things certified to go on this aircraft. There is a whole process for taking a certified plane and making it experimental and then universes collide if I ever wanted to bring it back to certified...
Makes sense. As long as all the avionics etc are certified its fine to install. Thanks for the reply. I should have thought about that, but I am often confused about what things you can install/work on yourself with aircraft.
There's more to it than just certified... (thanks government bureaucracy) It has to be certified for each model airplane... yeah...that's right...
Can an aircraft remove or move avionics around themselves in their own airplane?
Jimmy I'm loosing track of your various projects.....😊
Yup, I’m a little dorky too.
nice!
Hey Jimmy could you share how difficult was it to hook up the audio panel with the Fast stack. I just ordered mine and was just wondering how plug n play is it really..? thanks.
by far the easiest thing on the airplane. run a ground and power and figure out what inputs (ie: aux 1: i did not use, aux 2: for back passengers, I did use. Had to solder the wires on the passenger headset jacks: easy, all labeled at the ends.) I can't think of anything else...If you can install a car radio, you can do this. Matter of fact a car radio is more complicated than this setup. Also, anytime I had a question, Tim or Shawn(?) was quick to answer my call/email. You will be glad you went with the Fast Stack setup. (I don't even get compensated for that review! lol)
Can I get a avionics technician job after getting electrician experience with a trade school ?
Jimmy, why so secretive with the autopilot?
Oh, sorry about that. I’ve been so caught up with all the other stuff. I’ll share it soon :)
@@therealjimmysworld Since I know you read comments...One of the things that I really like/enjoy about your "show" (besides loving airplanes) is that you are keeping it real. I like how you don't hide the messy details that others don't show. For example, when you make a mistake or something doesn't go exactly "right" - makes it so much more relatable. Along those same lines, I appreciate that it seems as if you are not hiding expenses or details around money; certified aviation has gotten (IMHO) out of control. If you keep it real and keep sharing the details around costs/expenses/sponsorships etc - I hope that you get lots of subscribers and tons of views and quite frankly, I hope you can make lots of money from UA-cam...I mean, really, a kid making a million dollars a year reviewing toys? I thought you would like to know why I keep coming back everyday. I want to help you buy that jet!
thanks! The best part of the journey is all the real stuff! That's where memories are made! Seriously, I need to find that kid and ask him how to make money with this facetube thing... That would be awesome to make money from these videos!
1:10 "... and it'll keep everything up nice and high, away from the yoke so whenever it moves no wires are anywhere near that thing."
I was teaching a student aerobatics in a 152 Aerobat and the student, after an aileron roll asked "Is this normal?". I asked "What?" ... and the pitch was OK, but the roll control was jammed (thankfully in a neutral position) solid. I flew it back on rudder and elevator to the field, and it turned out that a loop of avionics wire had caught on the control yoke pin. So - it happens! Got away with that one, too.
Oh man!!
What exactly is that Gold thing? I know you mentioned it in an earlier video but...
gold thing? The square box that everything plugs into? That's the Fast Stack hub. Is that what you're referring to?
That moment when the lights flicker to life......
It's alive!!!!
Do you ever go home? I mean everytime we see you you are in the airplane. I'm sure your wife misses you, right? lol
That is my home
How many lbs of old junk have you removed from the aircraft so far? What will the new weight of the plane be compared to the old one?
Don't know yet. I'm guessing (including the A/P) it will be about 20-30lbs lighter.
@@therealjimmysworld all of the extra / excess wiring alone should help
seriously!
How much can u customize a plane
IS DENNIS WEAVER RELATED TO YOU?? YAWL SHO' 'NUFF FAVOR!
What was price of cables, board, etc
I paid $2500 for the hub and all harnesses (including the 6 place intercom). Way better than any other bid I got by thou$ands!
Would have liked less dancing and more of how you connected power and ground wires, connecting vor, connecting audio up., etc.
it's plug and play with this system. Just plug one end to the equipment, other end to the box, power/ground and you're done. Super easy.
Hi my name is Logan.jimmy i live in south Africa near a airport i would like one day to become aircraft engineer.
O and also there is a Cherokee caravan ll and a Cherokee 140 it's not my airplanes but I would like to plant to be restored and not lying in a field rusting and waiting for it and.
Where else on UA-cam can you watch an electrical genius who is not sure what he is doing, who makes mini 7-minute videos to perfection, and seems to have the exuberance of an 11-year old boy? When you then realize that he is building an actual aircraft out of used parts which he expects to solo flight at 10,000 ft, yelling "Yippee-Ki-Yay", a little fear and respect sets in - and you know that you will be back for more of this sheer insanity. Something wrong here! 🙄
welcome to the asylum!
Ha ha that's very good!
Please don’t start playing with things while you are working on these electronics! Dorky? More medication Jimmy.
hahahaha
This would be a lot more enjoyable to watch if the guy in the video didn’t act like a five-year-old half the time. I get excited when things work as well, but I definitely don’t act like that. Hard to watch.
on a scale from 1 to 10 how difficult would you say this installation was?
I'm putting a 57 Apache back in the after 26 years. I'd love to contact you and talk about your wiring harnesses. Can you message me on Facebook messenger?
Chat with Tim Hass at approach fast stack