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I love these videos
Damn. Is it gonna be the same with the MacBooks?
Darn it, I was really hoping that this would not happen... as you said, keep the price but give some normal specs for the base model... sad :S Can't wait to see confirmation with 512 SSD... but with mixed feelings :(
crazy amounts of editing glitches in this movie.
Thanks for all the test that you do before we buy these devices so we can buy wisely....
Even though Apple dropped the price impressively, the fact that the SSD would bottleneck the system SO much is clearly very misleading from Apple. I really appreciate how your channel provides so much transparency! The community appreciates this channel. Thank you!
The SSD isn’t a bottleneck for almost anyone. This has been thoroughly tested. The RAM is the limiting factor on this device. Unfortunately, this channel does a horrible job running a scientific test.
I forget the name of the channel but it’s been tested like for like with other models and controlling for just one variable. The RAM is the issue which dramatically effects performance. The SSD isn’t a problem because you’re rarely copying something to your desktop that’s so large that it’s really a factor (especially if you’re working with a 256gb SSD).
@@Cujobob I am not sure what a "scientific" test might be. Tests are useful that clearly spell out their parameters and use models. People can decide whether a scenario matches their own use.
@@Cujobob But the lack of RAM wouldn't be such a huge problem (although it still is a super limiting factor) if the SSD was faster for swap usage. Remember the "unified memory" Apple was advertising a couple of years ago with M1 systems and how they were supposed to work fine with low amount of RAM because of extremely well optimized swapping on fast SSD's?
Well now the whole unified memory thing is just garbage because of even slower SSD's than before.
@@brachiator1 controls need to be in place to be certain that a specific change impacts performance. Changing multiple things at once leaves you unaware of what is causing the change. In this example, he’s leading people to falsely believe the SSD speeds are the bottleneck when it’s been proven they are not.
@@brachiator1 ua-cam.com/video/YKRO-4BiZrI/v-deo.html
If you don’t have a extra 45secs more to transfer files, you have more serious issues to worry about
It’s not 45 seconds. It’s 45 seconds times 50 times a day times 6 days a week times 52 weeks a year times 7 to 9 years.
@@Fred_the_Head so 37 mins a day.. gotcha.. that’s horrible
Thanks for the detailed review, love the thoroughness you guys do to test all aspects of each machine. Really value your advice!
Always loved your side by side comparisons and how much detail you put into them. Never seen any other UA-cam channel go into so much depth.
Very disappointing that the SSD speeds have dropped so much! Thank you for calling this to light!
Thank you so much for your videos. They look so professional and I can just feel how much passion you have for what you do! So sad to hear the ssd's are so much slower.
Definitely appreciate the tear down & knowledge share here. I have an M1 Mini & it’s always interesting to see how they evolve these systems.
Excellent update as usual. These performance reviews are a huge help for those potentially looking to buy a new mac. Waiting to see the speed difference between the base model and 512gb version.
Looking forward to watch the comparisons with the higher SSD models
Dude… that was close. Just made up my mind to get one of those, but stumbled over your video just in time 😅. Thanks a ton!
Have kept an eye on the Mini vs Studio, with M2 coming out I'm leaning Mini, but hearing the impact 512gb has sure settles that piece. Great information to hear. Thanks!
This is a really good video. I feel like it’ll help so many people with their buying decisions I really appreciate how each and every single year this channel as a whole is not only gaining expertise but new skills.
Thanks guys for such a great quality content. I really enjoy your teardowns and analysis, so we
can take into account more details and make better decisions.
Thanks for this video. I'm currently looking to change to apple silicon as my Mac Pro 5,1 will no longer get any security patches . Navigating the new specs is only possible because of the work you guys do.
Nice video. Very informative, as the half speed of the SSD in 256 GB might have gone unnoticed by many mac buyers.
Great review. Fantastic to see the first thing done is to break down the hardware physically rather than through benchmark tests. Next level UA-cam content in it's field. Well done.
Big shout out to everyone at Max Tech! All these tests and comparisons can be a bit overwhelming to process at once, but overall very helpful for average joes like me. Wishing you all the best in your future endeavors!
Love you videos. The way you show us the products as well all the pros and cons. Super helpful! Kudos!
I just found you today! I am very impressed, having only seen this one video. I am looking forward to seeing more ... especially since I am in the market at this very moment to purchase either a MacMini or a 24" iMac. I am leaning very heavily to the MacMini because I would like to try a curved monitor to go along with it. Thanks again. Keep up the good work. JW
Over the years your review, content and quality has definitely improved, you are one of my three go to guys for new tech reviews. Good Job Guys!
It’s disappointing to see that configuration still around. I learned so much with you guys lately. Thanks for avoiding us to make basic mistakes
That configuration is still more than enough for basic computing. With a $599 PC, one would not get a faster SSD, a faster CPU and only a basic integrated GPU. Granted many PCs are still easier to upgrade for a lower price.
Interesting to see the effect of a component speed that most people wouldn’t think about. Nice work!
I really appreciate all the effort you guys put into these vids! Thanks so much xxx
It’s a shame how a product that could be almost perfect for so many is limited by the SSD. As always, love the transparency and detail in your videos so keep up the great work.
Mac mini base model is just fine for basic tasks.
I know for people who watch videos like this that the SSD speeds are likely a deal breaker (myself included), but I can assure you that this base model is still plenty fast enough for the majority of people who will use it for internet browsing, streaming and light file management. For many people, transferring 40GB of files is rare and when they do it, the slower SSD speed in this base model is still drastically faster than the old HP or Dell they bought from Costco.
Thanks for this tear down and confirming (the expected discovery) as you had done before. Really valuable piece of information, great content as always. I think this can be a point to consider even for the lightest user in a loner term use, as regular apps get more and more demanding over time.
Great videos. They always have a lots of good info and in-depth testing. Keep up the great work to provide us with all this great info!
Thank you for the efforts and information you share. Really sad to see apple disappointing us on the SSD speeds.
It is extremely disappointing to see just how much the ssd speeds have dropped. We really appreciate the time and energy you have dedicated to sharing your opinions with us.
in reald world u will not even notice the speed drop lol stop whining. what u expect during chip shortage
@@thebeeamberheardsdogsteppe6368 Watch the actual video here, he talks about the "chip shortage".
I don't undestand, what is the problem? You pay less than the previous model, if you double the size of SSD you have double of the speed but also double the capacity and you pay just a little more than the M1 cost (with significantly improved m2 performance)
Always amazed at how little is actually inside these machines. Great to watch you disassembling with such confidence.
Great teardown and review as usual.
Apple could have easily made it so one could use that space for an extra drive.
That’s good to know! Thanks so much for the warning; much appreciated! Cheers!
Love your videos. I can’t start my day without some MaxTech. You do an amazing job with your comparisons and help with my buying decisions.
I honestly don’t buy anything from Apple until I watch your videos. You guys don’t sugar coat anything and always willing to give all the information. Appreciate this channel a lot!
I feel the same way!
Yes I feel the same way. They put greedy in their faces explicitly. Seriously apple gfy
I’d do the opposite what the says usually wrong.
@@lancedomhoff1126 Then you are a fool. He advises better products.
True
Thanks for keeping us up on what’s going on.
Thank you so much for the ton of info before I get one.
Looking forward to watch the comparisons with the higher SSD models!
Definitely glad y'all put out this video so fast, was not expecting that same issue to show up on the base Mac Mini model. Also, very shocked by the amount of empty space in that case! It reminds me of the story of Steve Jobs dropping the first iPod prototype in an aquarium to make a point that it could be made smaller (might be an urban myth though)
How would dropping an iPod in a fish tank prove that it could be made smaller?
@@ianbee1959 bubbles
@@ianbee1959
Bubbles came out from the device and Jobs stated there is still air inside they could make it smaller.
I so appreciate knowing all this as I was just about to purchase one! Thanks so much!
very informative video. I just started to re-evaluate my buying decisions
I'm incredibly thankful for your superb reviews and tests! We appreciate the time and effort you have invested to share your perspectives with us. It is very disheartening to see that the SSD speeds have declined significantly! Fortunately, your reviews provide us with a dependable source of information for making the most informed decisions.
Ok I really like when you guys take these apart. Interesting to see the inside. Cool. Thanks for letting us see the empty chip. Always great info here guys. Thanks.
Thanks for this, really helpful!
See now this is why I love this channel. Always on the ball with the important information. Thanks for the heads up on the SSD speeds because I am seriously considering getting a Mac mini so I’ll wait for the rest of the videos to drop before making my decision
Thank you for the comparison videos. Helping to influence which one I might eventually get.
Amazing Channel!! I hope to get a studio or a mini soon!!
Looking forward to watch the comparisons with higher spec SSD models
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Thank you so much guys for your amazing reviews and tests! We really appreciate the time and effort you put into sharing your thoughts. If I may suggest that you compare the Mac Mini M2 Pro with its 12-core CPU, 19-core GPU, and 32GB of RAM and with the 1TB SSD, to the Mac Studio Max M1 Max with its 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU and the M2 Max with 32GB and with 12‑core CPU, 38‑core GPU . These three models on paper look very similar, and it would be great to see how they compare in terms of performance, specially in Davinci Resolve Studio. Thanks guys, cheers from Barcelona, spain!
Great information guys. if guys like you where not there to review this product, we will definitely been screwed 😂😂
YES PLEASEEE!!!
Like your channel , was thinking about updating to the new mini,
Now I’ll wait a bit. Thanks
Thank you, I chose wisely with the M1 Studio a couple months ago. Setting up my workspace compares to administering 3 TB in the size of a football field on 2 GB spinning footballs to 43k systems around the globe. Yet I find we are still struggling with the same issues...
Great review! Even with the slow SSD, the base model is a superb deal tbh!
It seems like the Mac mini became a very interesting product since the Apple silicon transition and it keeps on delivering great performance for much less money.
Thanks for the info 😅
Great content! Subscribed👍🏼👍🏼 Looking forward to your comparison with the higher SSD models.
Waiting to see the speed difference between the base model and 512gb. Excellent video as always.
Disappointing to see Apple doing it again but I can’t say I’m surprised. Great video as usual, great to see you guys with the products in hand eventually! It’s awesome that you guys break down the products physically as well comparing the cooling components etc.
nice to see this detail review. Thank you
Thanks for dropping this knowledge 💯
Great look at these two machines. You have to say: Apple has lost some magic in recent years but these new m1 and m2 chips are bringing some thunder! 👍
Sad to see the decrease in price has to be for a slower SSD, but I think they may be targeting a lot of students and people that are not power users
No, they should be able to sell the new Mac Mini at 600 with the same SSD as M1. The specs bump from the M1 chip is not that great plus it has been more than 2 years since the M1 Mini was released. They are doing this because they can. For those who are not power users, just get the base M1 Mini at discount price, it would be a better deal than the M2 Mini.
The reason for the 1 ssd instead o 2 rely in the TBW = TeraByteWrite: 1 Ssd of 256 Gb has bigger TBW then 2 ssd of 128GB so.. yes is slower but.. it will work for more time before the chip reach the end of its lifespan and given they are soldered on the logic board it is a better solution for a basic model.
Great review and really appreciate learning all this(I was about to buy the base model and I would have been a big mistake… I’m going to start designing and I need a computer that has a descent performance. I’ll wait and find a good deal on a used M1. Thank you! 👌🏼✌🏼
Thank you for these videos. They are very through
As a result of watching your review, I purchased a Mac Mini M2 Pro with 32 GB ram and just the base 512 storage. I performed my first FCPX 20-minute 4K video and was blown out of my seat! Not only the speed of rendering and uploading was astonishing, but the quality of the GPU is far better than my new Alienware R13!
I have a nearly new R13 for sale...
If you see this machine as a really entry level one it's just perfect. For standard office work or schools, this machine is overkill. And I would say that even if you do a bit more with it, you're still ok. And look what's available at this price tag in the Windows world...
This 100% - I'm moving my parents off a Ryzen R9 all in one to a Mac Mini 2, This will destroy their workload - youtube, email, browsing etc. And its all wrapped in the idiot proof apple setup.
The efficiency is really what made me grab mine.
From my view..it’s more important to increase the ram to 16-24 g vs increasing the ssd capacity…as it won’t need to use the ssd for virtual memory
Great job with the work and those giveaways keep the good work best wishes for the 2023
I’m really disappointed by the ssd speeds. This could have been the perfect entry level desktop Mac. I’m really glad you pointed that out.
Thanks MT, I am new to the channel but can already tell that you are through and I trust your reviews.
Amazing content 😻i love your content from a long time ❤️
I'm extremely grateful for your wonderful reviews and tests! We value the time and energy you have dedicated to sharing your opinions with us. It is very disheartening to see that the SSD speeds have deteriorated so much!
Thanks for the in-depth analysis and breakdown of the new Mac Mini. I appreciate the transparency and attention to such detailed and informative reviews of new Apple products, it makes easier for those who need the Mac mini to make informed decisions. Can't wait to see the comparison between the base model and 512gb version. Keep up the great work!
Appreciate the info! Definitely good you guys did this one!!!
You know, it is videos like these that help with the decision process. A lot of people are just talking about how great it is, and it is an upgrade, but you guys go deep with it and specify why you should changes ssd sizes or ram etc when buying and that is appreciated.
Hey thanks for the video. Was quite interesting to see inside!
That’s really a light of valuable info shared as you do always.
It's not expected, thanks bro for this teardown and giving us insights ❤️❤️ even though slowing down SSD is not greatly affecting day to day general activities but the read and write speed in higher benchmarks n photoshop is drastically low. But again Mac mini is meant for general n not pro consumption and the price has also reduced. So I think it's justified....
Last but not the least, bro I love yr channel!!🤩🤩🤗❤️
I have been struggling with the idea of building a computer versus buying a computer mainly for video and photo editing. Not only did I have to put that idea on hold due to Covid. I looked at acquiring the Mac Mini M1 but it was expensive with all the add-ons. I find your channel one of the best with up-to-date advice to potential consumers about Apple computers. Keep it up.
This is probably the most informative channel relevant to my interest in purchasing
a new Mac Mini. I feel that when I do purchase, I will now, because of your efforts, be
making a much more informed purchase. Good work ! Glad I subscribed.
Appreciate the clarity and insight as i was contemplating getting one of these for photo editing!
It's so disappointing to see the slower ssd speeds on these new computers. Thanks so much for all the work you guys do in bringing these videos to us. :)
I think it’s actually a good thing.
It’s not going to matter for most users, it’s still not a slow SSD it’s just not as fast as the more expensive models.
Overall I'm happy that the Apple is producing their own chips now and we have many options on the market, even though some of them are not perfect at least there are options. Intel Macs were really unnecessarily expensive for what it offered, especially compared to non-Apple options.
Hey, great content. Very helpful!
thank you. Needed to know this.
Love your detailed and informative videos. It’s a real shame the base model has a slow ssd but I feel like 512GB should be the bare minimum a computer comes with these days. I’m very interested to see how the M2 and M2 Pro compare to each other as a music maker!
My plan is to get the M2 version and upgrade the memory to 24 and the hard drive to 512, but waiting for them to be released to see how they are. Looking forward to your tests once you get the ones you ordered.
Why not get the M2 Pro Mac Mini base model instead of M2 24/512? You gona lose some memory but you'll have much more CPU power for a short price difference. Think about it because MacOS can handle some tasks using the SSD to hold memory data. And with the faster CPU the OS will get things done faster, that in other words maybe can compesate the memory difference. idk, maybe this is smth that you can think abt.
@@washingtonpaiva6947 yep, price becomes quite close to the M2 Pro mac mini.
@@washingtonpaiva6947 looked at it again and you are right. Completely missed that. Thank you!
@@washingtonpaiva6947 you only get 2 extra efficiency cores and more GPU cores. Unless you do alot of video editing, I'd rather go for the 24GB ram, which means more apps being open at any one point. The M2 Pro only makes sense if you max it to 32GB.
Love your videos! Been a subscriber since 2018 and have not missed a video!
Thanks for this. Very surprised to learn this. Subscribed .
As you said, “not everyone needs to 512”, that also applies, “not everyone needs that SSD speed “, $100 lower still works better for a lot of users, and if vs m1 mini, spending $100 extra, you get 512 SSD vs 256, and m2 chip, and other upgrades.
true. Mac mini M2 base model is the best media pc for me.
Exactly this. Personally, makes 0 difference to or from. Running all data externally and don't write a lot to internal drive anyway. Since most coding, design and music production is so light weight in terms of writing. That saved money is far more appealing.
I lucked out and bought the 512MB version which is twice as fast (I think it clocks in at 3182 Write and 2850 Read). Looking forward to a Max Tech review of this machine to confirm, update or refine those numbers. I ordered it the day they released them so I just fluked out. I figured 512MB was a good size for my system drive and I have a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro SSD in a matching dock below the Mini. It’s a phenomenal machine.
im watching an letting the dust settle an trying to decide the best path. thankyou for your channel.
Thanks for the video I was thinking to get the base version, now I realize is not a good a idea. Great review!
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What?
It scares me how Apple only lowered the prices by 100 bucks so they could charge double (or more) for a better SSD.
Thanks a lot for the heads up. Hope To continue receiving such great content
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Thanks for the video!
Great video! Love you guys look into those things, since I'm a Mac user
I'm at a loss for words to express my gratitude to you for creating this content.
And I have to say that the interior of the M2 Mac Mini is simply stunning; Apple engineers are truly amazing.
The difference between SSD speeds are insane. You guys are the best showing this for everyone, big respect!
I enjoyed your review and look forward to your future reviews! Thank you!
I subscribed. Really surprised to hear this news about the SSD bottleneck. Looking forward to your upcoming videos to see which one to buy.
I think of the $599 Mac mini is to provide a low cost entry system for new users, or for users who don't need much for a computer but still want something fast.
You buy products, you review it, you compare it, and now you’re tearing it down. You absolutely done everything with the product. Hail to the ALL AROUND TECH REVIEWER ❤😂