Entry Level DevOps Jobs Don't Exist
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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It's getting harder to find an entry level DevOps job. But it's not impossible! In this video, i'll share my thoughts on the current state of this job market and some tips on securing an entry level DevOps job.
Timestamps:
0:00 The important bit
0:31 History?
3:51 Actions?
6:20 Future? - Наука та технологія
DevOps isn't an "entry level" job. It's where you go after you've been something like a junior developer and/or junior sysadmin moving up the career ladder. It is more of a mid-to-senior position just like how SRE isn't an entry level position either, it is where you go as you move up from a junior position. Nothing wrong with that. After all you don't get your MD and skip being a junior doctor and become a consultant or registrar either.
I was doing DevOps before we called it DevOps. I was a hybrid developer and sysadmin within the company. Then we moved to cloud services rather than on-prem or self-managed data centre based servers. I was a senior system administrator and then a Solution Architect for a large blue chip company when we reorganised the titles and we renamed positions to the more modern titles of SRE and DevOps Engineer, etc. So the reality is a DevOps Engineer/SRE is the "new" title of a Senior System's Administrator/Integration Specialist with production ownership and responsibilities, etc. Not things you would put on a junior employee straight out of college.
Very true
Huh? With tools like Terraform and Wing there's no reason why a junior engineer can't be part of the devops team. From all the internal tools you develop for product teams to managing infrastructure junior devs can contribute to all of that. As far as prod is concerned all teams are responsible for prod. Devops is just one of many teams. Unless you're doing a large complicated manual process (why) then you can easily have junior devs just like with any other team.
@@nestharus Oh for sure you could have a "Junior DevOps Engineer" role. And I have seen such positions from time to time. However generally when you see a DevOps position advertised they're looking for someone with experience at mid-level or usually senior level. Someone who has a few years of real world use of Terraform, Anisible and development in Golang, etc. building deployed solutions. These are things you just don't really find in a fresh graduate and so we see more junior positions as either system administrators or developers with some cross over to develop DevOps skills.
It's not a knock at graduates of course, it is just that "DevOps" isn't all that well defined across the industry. Many companies (and by that I mean management) don't fully understand (or care much) the difference between dev and ops sides of things, to them it is all just technical stuff with strange words like git and terraform and CI/CD.
Whereas they have a bit of a better understanding of "software developer" and "system administrator" roles.
When I first started working in IT back in 2001 DevOps didn't exist. There was no "cloud". All our servers were either in a dedicated server room on site or in a data centre. Many things transitioned to VMs yet remained either on-prem or in a DC. Then things moved to the cloud and a whole new skill set of rapid deployment and scalability emerged as hardware was no longer a hard limit that required speccing up, ordering, delivery, setup and deployment. It became a budget meeting then a few clicks in AWS (or whatever you use) and you could scale away to your hearts content without having to worry about buying a dozen new servers (massive CapEx hit) and all the baggage that comes with ownership of the hardware. If things change you are left with hardware doing nothing whereas doing if things change you just scale back down.
Anyway I am writing an essay now so I will stop 😁 I do agree with you is my point, it is just that the industry and specifically management hasn't really caught up fully as DevOps can mean many different things in different companies and so when a company says they want a DevOps engineer what they're (usually) saying is they want a senior person with a lot of experience to save them money and build them more reliable infrastructure. These are things they don't feel comfortable hiring a fresh grad for but rather someone with a good 3-5 years experience under their belt.
"After all you don't get your MD and skip being a junior doctor"
No such thing as a junior doctor.
@@shameermulji perhaps not where you live but in the UK there certainly is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_doctor
Devops isn't an entry level position, same as cyber security. Hence no entry level jobs
Bring back the time when people were Devs before they were devops
I completely agree with that reddit post at 2:35. The drive to teach yourself is one of the most crucial skills for cloud beginners.
I mentor a lot of cloud beginners who and I'm always surprised when they say they need someone to hold their hands and keep them accountable.
My thought is always you should be self motivated and be willing to think outside the box to be successful in this industry
Thanks for the quality video :)
Devops by itself is comprised of many fields. I always tell my friends in networking that they should reinvent themselves as soon as possible since the legacy network engineer is going to dissappear soon (only big organizations with private DC will have jobs for them). Devops is a good direction, but for network people you should really aim for SRE or cloud infrastructure
"legacy network engineer is going to disappear soon"
How sure are you about that?
networking certifications provided by the networking device makers is a business in itself , your statement will be true only if the AI will get so good to actually do the work easily AND be as profitable as selling the said trainings/courses/certifications etc.
+ Plus some language barriers for non Native english speakers here in the UK
4:05 Could you make a video on a roadmap you would give for learning DevOps?
Yes will look to cover this in future videos - stay tuned.
waiting for this, i know it aint an entry level job. but It excites me when you were talking about roles of devops in the video u made 9months ago about The Harsh Reality of DevOps engr. I felt like this is what I want in the long run. I hope although it aint gonna be easy, there’s roadmap that will lead to ultimately learning the roles of devops and for what may companies want from you
yeah contribute to documentation , if doing it at work isn't enough , Jesus I'm so tired of this, second place and what you're asked to do is "yeah check out the documentation and get a feeling of what might be missing in it and what is actually done regularly by the team but not documented"
I am working in good leading mnc in india.. and I got placed in 2021.. but then I got only azure devops related work like pipelines , spn secrets renewal task.. now I am completing 2.9 yrs here.. but my main job was .net dev .. now what should I do ? Should I go and continue in devops work ? Or should I go for .net role ? I feel both are time taking work.. no work life balance.. what should I do😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I felt like going towards data analytics may be good.. but chatgpt and other saturation things in that field made it tough to get jobs after certain experience.. what should I do ! Please please please please please help me... Please....if I get good guidence I will atleast reduce my overthinking and will work.. currently I m learning azure platform and docker ... Please suggest me what should I' do.. my interest wasn't IT but due to family background and need of money I started working here.
Also I find okay I f I do dedicatedly might be it can happen in good way .
What’s the main problem with your current job? Why do you want to leave?
It’s important to think about what’s important to you and what your interests are. This sounds like a decision that only you can make.