Delusions of atheists: We simply lack belief in God

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  • Опубліковано 13 гру 2024

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  • @RefutingOrientalists
    @RefutingOrientalists  7 днів тому +2

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  • @Rolandais
    @Rolandais 3 дні тому +1

    The problem that theists like yourself can't understand basic concepts like why a court does not find people innocent, but not guilty, is something you should spend some time thinking about. Because, Not guilty is not the same as innocent. Much like, not being convinced that unicorns exist, is not the same as being convinced they do not exist.

    • @RefutingOrientalists
      @RefutingOrientalists  3 дні тому

      The problem with atheists like yourself is that you are dishonest and deluded. The argument you are making regarding believing in extra things without evidence causes absolutely massive problems for atheism. As I show in the video linked in this one. I summarize that argument in this video as well. The pathetic thing is you did not bother to respond to it. You did not even respond to the argument in the video. That is pathetic but then again you are an atheist. Now if you can grow a spine I would be more than happy to have a recorded debate with you on the topic. If not I will not waste my time with you. Feel free to whine in the comments though.

    • @Rolandais
      @Rolandais 3 дні тому

      @@RefutingOrientalists Correct, believing in extra things without evidence, is quite silly, like believing something exists beyond what we have evidence for, such as for example, anything supernatural or beyond material things. Or things outside of the universe. The intelligent, and honest thing to do, is to stop where knowledge ends, and go, "I don't know." and then do the research and experimentation that we know works through rigorous testing, and can predict. The thing you're having issues with, is that the argument in the video, isn't relevant to the main idea.
      What holes are there in my atheism? In my lack of being convinced about the existence of any god or gods? I am of course more than willing for you to present a version of a god you believe in, with evidence, not evidence you claim to have, but evidence I myself can test reliably, or anyone else can test reliably, preferably with instruments or tools that remove personal and subjective biases. Of course, you'd be sitting in the same problem every single theist ever does. Which is, there isn't any that isn't just them filling in a current gap in our knowledge of the universe.
      If you've ever watched Scooby Doo, you'd understand a super basic thing about reality, and that is, it's never ghosts, it's never spirits, or devils or demons, it's just a dude in a costume. Because, every single mystery in the 300,000 odd year history of humanity that has ever been solved, the answer has been, "It wasn't magic."

  • @rhett_rydinhood
    @rhett_rydinhood 6 днів тому +2

    _"here is why this is delusional: if you lack belief in the existence of god,_
    _this necessarily means that you do not believe that god exists."_
    Correct.
    _"if it is the case then you necessarily believe that God does not exist this_
    _is self-evident and there's no way around this fact."_
    Wrong. Just claiming this nonsense ‘self-evident’ and a ‘fact’ does not
    relieve you of a logical proof. And you don't have any, you just make it
    nice and easy for yourself to have a basis for your house of cards.

    • @RefutingOrientalists
      @RefutingOrientalists  6 днів тому

      While existence of God is self evident based on the criteria and justifications many atheists themselves use, I did not make that point during this video. I was saying the nonsense regarding atheists believing God does not exist is self evident. Meaning the fact that atheists have beliefs is self evident. As far as existence of God is concerned, I would be more than happy to have a recorded debate with you on this topic. But if you are not willing to do that I will not waste my time with you. Feel free to whine in the comments though

    • @rhett_rydinhood
      @rhett_rydinhood 6 днів тому +2

      @@RefutingOrientalists
      _"While existence of God is self evident based on the criteria_
      _and justifications many atheists themselves use."_
      So, what are the criteria and justifications that make the
      existence of your god self evident? Please tell me just one,
      the best and most important one.
      _"I was saying the nonsense regarding atheists believing God_
      _does not exist is self evident."_
      Here I am on your side: without reasonable grounds it is just
      as nonsensical to believe in the non-existence of gods as in
      their existence.
      _"Meaning the fact that atheists have beliefs is self evident."_
      But not all atheists have beliefs that relate directly to the
      existence of gods; usually it is more a non-belief of the as-
      sertion of the existence of gods; which is not the same thing.

  • @unclemeag7050
    @unclemeag7050 3 дні тому

    You sound sick I hope you get better soon

    • @RefutingOrientalists
      @RefutingOrientalists  3 дні тому

      I am getting better Alhamdulillah and my hand is healing as well. I caught a cough because of the cold. The winter this time is especially cold here in Pakistan. Honestly I do not remember in my entire life a winter that was this cold.

    • @unclemeag7050
      @unclemeag7050 3 дні тому

      @ I hope you find warmth soon

  • @AnotherViewer
    @AnotherViewer 18 годин тому

    I’m not sure where the logic here is coming from, but I’m going to talk about the key parts of this video. First, claiming that atheism is about not believing in God but without making a claim isn’t exactly a “dishonest” or “delusional” position. It’s a simple matter of definitions. When atheists say they don’t believe in God, they’re just acknowledging the lack of belief in something, not claiming certainty that God doesn’t exist. This distinction is pretty clear. You’re misinterpreting it as a claim of knowledge when it’s more about withholding belief due to the lack of evidence.
    The argument about atheists somehow avoiding a burden of proof is a strawman. Atheists don’t typically claim to know that God doesn’t exist; they just point out that, without sufficient evidence, belief in God doesn’t make sense. This isn’t the same thing as claiming that God doesn’t exist with absolute certainty.
    As for the claim that atheists believe life and the universe came from "blind" processes-yes, many atheists accept naturalistic explanations based on evidence. The idea that physical processes in nature are unguided doesn’t need an intelligent cause to be valid; it’s based on observations and scientific reasoning. The fact that we haven’t yet discovered every answer doesn’t automatically mean that an intelligent creator is required, it just means that we keep looking for more evidence.
    You also misunderstood Occam’s Razor. The idea isn’t that "more is better." It’s that we should avoid unnecessary assumptions. Adding an invisible, supernatural creator without evidence doesn’t simplify the explanation; it complicates it.
    Finally, the whole tone of this video feels more about attacking strawmen and making sweeping generalizations about atheists than addressing actual points. If you think belief in God is rational, fine, but dismissing those who don’t believe based on poor arguments doesn’t strengthen your position.

    • @RefutingOrientalists
      @RefutingOrientalists  15 годин тому

      If you decide to grow a spine I would be more than happy to have a recorded debate with you on this topic. If not I will not waste time with you but feel free to whine in the comments.

  • @inessesalazar
    @inessesalazar 3 дні тому

    I don’t believe in Thor god of thunder being an all powerful deity so therefore my non belief is proof he exists……

    • @RefutingOrientalists
      @RefutingOrientalists  2 дні тому

      Wow it seems atheists are desperate to demonstrate their own stupidity,

    • @inessesalazar
      @inessesalazar 2 дні тому

      @ that is exactly the logic that you’ve used with the statements made in the video. And clearly your argument doesn’t have any validity so you can only call me stupid in response.