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Amen! I pray that my family, friends, and anyone indoctrinated with the false teachings, dogmas, and traditions of Roman Catholicism, that their eyes be opened and that they turn from this organization to Jesus Christ. He is sufficient and the only One that offers forgiveness of sins and eternal life. 💕🙏
It’s both, tradition and scripture, they are equal. What did they do for 300 yrs before the canon was put together? The Bible wasn’t dropped intact from the sky. You accept the authority of the Catholic Church when you accept your Bible, they put it together.
@@gradyjohnson7853 unfortunately when Christ returns it will be too late for those who rejected Gods Grace and faith in Jesus Christ. When Jesus returns, He will be ready for war (Revelation 19:11-16)
@@TerryF-ht4qf you referenced a verse I use all the time. This is during seal 6 and 7. It refers to the daynof the Lord. But ot is not just a Day. Ot is a period of time of war and also of salvation for some. Please read Isaiah 63:1-10 but especially verse 4, zech 14, zech 9:14-16, and Jeremiah 30-31 and especially 31:1 and many other verses in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah. The judgement doesn't come until after the millennial reign after satan is thrown into the lake of fire. Rev20:11-15. Bit when Jesus comes and fight against the nations it's over for them.
You have been blessed with so much wisdom. I love your comment that if purgatory were true then we are saying Christ's death on the cross is not enough. Blessings to you Matt. Thank you for sharing.
Amen, Amen, Amen! Matt, you speak truth! My mother was catholic and couldn't marry my Protestant father in the catholic church! I think at some point, she was grieved, but I never heard or saw her grief! She took us to a Methodist church and never heard her complain, nor did I see her praying with a rosary! My mother embraced the Methodist church and volunteered to be the secretary for the meetings that no one wanted to do! I was in the choir, went to many speggitti dinners , and went to church summer camp, which my mother volunteered again! Great church memories!❤️❤️❤️ She passed in 1978, at age 51and I was 24 and all these years. As I am now going on 71, I still miss her sweetness! I truly think she enjoyed the Methodist church more than the catholic church! God bless you, Matt, for speaking about this!✝️🙏❤️
The main problem with the RCC is their rejection of the finished work of Jesus Christ. They feel the need to have their personal input to scripture and salvation. The redeeming power of the blood of Jesus Christ is not sufficient for them. Pray for those held in bondage by the false doctrine and teaching of the RCC. May God deliver them.
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Thank you for doing this video, Matt! My family and I grew up in the Catholic Church , and later on met my mentor, she told me get out of catholic church and I got saved in her church and converted to Christianity in 1998! I've been learning about alot of demonic things, including how the Pope thinks he's God, what blasphemy! And I'm glad you mentioned the Hail Marys. I use to practice rosary beads and say Hail Mary and Our Father , but I'm learning we are to only go directly to God, The mother of Jesus can't help us! But also when it comes to confession, we are not to go to man confess , only directly to Jesus, I use to do confession with a Priest, I'm learning so much! Blessings, Matt!
I was also raised Catholic and went to Catholic school for 13 years. My lack of a relationship with God eventually led me into atheism. Three Christian friends prayed for me for three years until one day my eyes were opened, and I became Born Again. I've been saved for over 20 years. In the beginning I had no idea how indoctrinated I had been. I too once prayed the rosary, etc. It wasn't until I went to Bible College and began reading the Bible that I began to learn about all the lies and blasphemous teachings of the RCC. I was shocked and angry. Now it just makes me sad because I now have a close, intimate relationship with my Savior, something I would never have had as a Catholic. I changed so drastically that my mother recognized it and she too was Born Again. She, my husband and I were all baptized on Resurrection Sunday. I am so thankful to have been saved from the RCC. I don't hate Catholics, most Catholics have no idea about such things. I just feel empathy for them bc I was once blind and deaf too.
Veneration is the very word which RCs use to describe that which we know is idolatry. And yes, the RC church is an authoritarian state. Literally...literally. Most people don't know that the RC church is the only religious bureaucracy that has been officially recognized as a state by virtually every government in the world. Even in Italy it is legally and diplomatically a separate nation from it's host and has it's own national laws. It is an authoritarian bureaucracy that has very little to do with our Lord and Savior and far more to do with wealth and power.
@@thekingschild2116 ….. please tell me what that difference is. I did not parrot an argument. I stated that there is a very distinct difference of which you do not know the difference.
As an ex Roman Catholic I thank God that my parents emigrated from Portugal to South Africa.. My neighbours were all Protestants so at the age of 19 I became a born again Christian. Sadly I wasn't able to get my parents to see the light. They were too indoctrinated and set in their ways.
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Wealth equals power. The Catholic Church had it in the 4th century and this continues in our present day. People want to be associated with power and wealth because of the benefit this brings them in someway, shape or form. A fair trade for the price of their eternal soul do you think? The bible tells us that if we choose worldly things, then we will have our reward!
Amen. I think of Jesus judging the churches in Revelation 2-3. They certainly couldn't tell Jesus, "Wait a minute, we're the original church started when you gave the keys given to Peter!" They were under the rulings of Christ, who is the Word. The Word is not under the churches.
I am a priest myself. Confession is actually confession to GOD in the presence of a priest, who has authority to pronounce absolution. To give a biblical example: King David committed adultery with Bathsheba and brought about the death of her husband Uriah. David was called to repentance by the prophet Nathan. David then confesses his sin and begs pardon, and Nathan can then say, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die” (2 Sm12.13). You see, God does forgive, yet God works through a human minister-in this case, the prophet Nathan. Look at the Acts of the Apostles, where we read that there were believing Christians who had sinned by practicing magic or occult practices and that they confessed those sins before the apostles (Acts 19.18). St. James says, “Confess your sins to one another” (James 5.16) and says this in connection with the Anointing of the Sick, which is administered by the priests (James 5.14). St. Paul speaks of his apostolic authority to pardon sins “in the presence [literally, in the person] of Christ” (2 Cor 2.10), and he ratifies the penitential decisions made by the pastors of the church at Corinth, in much the same way as a bishop gives faculties to a priest to hear confessions and give absolution. About the title of "father": it's just a pious custom. I don't insist on it or demand it or teach it as required by God himself. I doubt that human titles will receive much attention in heaven, but there’s nothing wrong with using them in this life, as a sign of respect (Rom 13.7). St Paul says to Timothy, “Let the elders [presbyters] who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching” (1 Tm 5.17). The Apostle addresses Timothy as “my true son in the faith” (1 Tm 1.2). These terms are not really about power or prestige but a recognition that by grace we become members of God’s family. The Book of Revelation does speak of the 24 presbyters, wearing white robes and having crowns on their heads, bowing down before the Lamb, holding bowls of incense with the prayers of the saints (Rev 4 and 5). The word “priest” is a contraction of the word presbyter. I think we’ll be so absorbed in the worship of the Lamb that titles will not matter much. I see nothing wrong with referring to a Jewish religious teacher as "Rabbi", simply as courtesy, though Jesus reminded us that we have only one teacher. Many Protestant ministers are addressed as "doctor," which simply means teacher, if they have a doctorate in theology or divinity. One can use those titles while acknowledging that, in the ultimate sense, Jesus Christ is our one divine Teacher and that we are all learners. Christ is also the one Good Shepherd, yet there are human beings who act as ministerial shepherds in his service. Pastor means shepherd, and I think you use the term “pastor” for yourself. That doesn’t subtract anything from Christ as the one Good Shepherd. When you see him face to face, will you worry much about the word “pastor”? Christ is the one Eternal High Priest; yet Christians are a priestly people, and there are ministerial priests who are ordained to offer worship. Jesus Christ alone is the one Son of God by nature, but we become sons of God by grace: “But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God” (Jn 1.12-13). “For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, “Abba! Father!” it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him” (Rom 8.14-17). One can take Jesus' words seriously without being such a literalist. The Apostle Paul himself wrote, "For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel” (1 Cor. 4:14-15). The point of Jesus' words is the same as St Paul's in Ephesians 3.14-15: "For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family [or fatherhood] in heaven and on earth is named."
If you are a priest why are you on here casting pearls before swine? The errors all over this are unbelievable. I am not Roman Catholic, but it is clear he does not understand so much about them.
I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages. Light of light; true God of true God; begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by Whom all things were made; Who for us men and for our salvation came down from Heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man. And He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried. And the third day He arose again, according to the Scriptures, and ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead; Whose Kingdom shall have no end. And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, Who proceeds from the Father; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; Who spoke by the prophets. ******** I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.
@@amyshevchenko2476 I came across this by chance, and the title caught my attention. I want to understand the issues raised by people who object to the Catholic Church, so that I can respond more effectively. As Archbishop Fulton Sheen famously said, "There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church - which is, of course, quite a different thing." Matt Mason does have some serious misunderstandings about Catholic teaching. However, far from being "swine", he's actually very articulate and trying to defend Christian faith in a hostile culture. I have a lot of respect for that. On some important points, he's excellent: such as the inseparability of a life of sanctification from justification by faith, and also on "Once-Saved-Always-Saved". He also loves Thomas a Kempis's "Imitation of Christ." Also, from his Facebook page, he's borne with faith and courage some heavy crosses in his life. I can only respect that. So I think he deserves the best response that I can give.
I will just say , I don’t agree with the confessing of your sins to the Priest he did not die on the cross for your sins. The hail Mary’s too much . This is my own personal feel of it since I was raised in a different church than my husband . He was Catholic growing up .
James 5:16..Therefore confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed. So no priest involved here, only the bretheren within the church.
I used to be very open to, and accepting of other religious organisations. I even thought the Muslim and Christian god was one and the same! Our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ is very zealous and unapologetic when it comes to the truth. You know when the true gospel is being preached because it will always end up offending someone who is being deceived. Praying that God will continue to humble our hearts and open our eyes in these last days.
Well said mate 👏 👍 👌 I'm an ex Eastern Orthodox who started reading the scriptures decades ago and found that many of their doctrines and dogmas were contrary to the Scriptures!
Good message. I read that in their catechism, it says that they had the authority to change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. I believe that only God has that authority.
@@lionoffireraw Brother, you are wrong, it was written in stone with his own finger! Do you keep the other nine commandments by breaking the 4th? if you break one, you break them all! If you're keeping Sunday, you are Catholic because you are following them!
The only authority that we should listen to is God himself, who is revealed through his holy scripture. We have nothing else that we can be sure is inspired. The words of godly men do not replace the words of God.
Amen Matt. I got into an argument in a comment section with someone who claimed being baptized is how you become saved. Of course all the comments were deleted. 😢
I find people within Roman Catholicism very hard to reach and extremely argumentative. They have been told (wrongly) that this organization is the first Christian Church, and that it’s Jesus’ church. If that were true, then the teachings would be biblically sound. I see nothing about purgatory, rosary beads, etc..in the Word of God. If anything we are told NOT to pray to those that have died, and NOT to make idols. They will argue that they don’t worship those things, but when I see them bowing down in front of, kissing the feet of these statues, and crying, that is exactly what they are doing. I pray the scales fall off their eyes and that they turn to Jesus (not the pope or traditions of the church) and the Word of God as their authority and perfect sacrifice for forgiveness of sins. 💕🙏 My Uncle will not even leave his house without a trinket in his pocket representing Micheal the Archangel. He says he carry’s it for protection. Why not just pray to the Father thru the Son for protection? It’s hard for me to understand the lunacy behind those things.
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 like so many verses taken out of context, this is a huge one from Catholics. When reading the Bible we have to look at everything else that was taught about these things. It all should mesh and flow together and not seem contradictory. If baptism was required for salvation, then we’re saying Jesus lied to the thief on the cross when He told him, TODAY, you will be with me in paradise. Also, there are several examples in the Bible that show where people were saved (receiving the Holy Spirit) before they were baptized. The evidence of their salvation is the reason why Peter allowed them to be baptized. Requiring anything in addition to faith in Jesus Christ is considered a works-based salvation, no different then every other false religion on earth. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is a gift from God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Ephesians 2:8-9. To add anything to the gospel is to say that Jesus’ death on the cross was not sufficient to purchase our salvation. To say that baptism is necessary for salvation is to say we must add our own good works and obedience to Christ’s death in order to make it sufficient for salvation. Jesus’ death alone paid for our sins (Romans 5:8; 2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus’ payment for our sins is appropriated to our “account” by faith alone (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore, baptism is an important step of obedience after salvation but cannot be a requirement for salvation. We get baptized because we are saved and want to be obedient to God, not the other way around, which is salvation through baptism. I say this with humbleness and love, please study this with a clean slate, not looking through the lens of what you have been told by the Catholic Church. There are a lot of good resources, sermons, and teachings that will help you,but reading the Word of God as a whole and in context is the best and sufficient of all, just like Jesus, because He is the Word. God bless 🙏💕
@@lewlewbelle7275 Baptism saves because it's a work of God not work of man. "Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" 1 Peter 3:21 Baptism forgives our sins and we receive the Holy Spirit. "And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Acts 2:38 "And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name" Acts 22:16 In baptism we are united with Christ. "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Galatians 3:27 In baptism we died with Christ. "Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?" Romans 6:3 In baptism we are circumcised by the circumcision of Christ. "In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead." Colossians 2:11-12 In baptism we are born again. "Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5 In baptism we are washed and born again. "he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit" Titus 3:5 "that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word" Ephesians 5:26
Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.
The question is whether the apostles passed down their authority to any successors they may have appointed. What the RC and EO churches have is a bunch of medieval accretions which cut people off from the Gospel and what we have is sola Scriptura and a billion different denominations because everybody (or nearly everybody at least) reads Scripture however they want.
@@Cube_Ernator1077 - I don't know. Sola Scriptura seems to lead to a proliferation of different interpretations and except for in Augustine and possibly Athanasius I can't find it anywhere in the fathers.
A LOT of erroneous misconceptions regarding the Catholic Church expressed here…And so be it as everyone has an opinion to share. Leaving the divinity debate aside let’s remember that “historically” the first Hebrew bible was written sometime between 1200 - 165 B.C. (Old Testament) …And the New Testament bible being written in the first century A.D. Mass produced bibles, as the bible you refer to here in the form of text, were not created until the invention of Gutenberg’s press in the 15th Century. The Church of Christ was established long before the written word. It existed in oral testimony. That is why “tradition” is vital component of Christianity.
@@lewlewbelle7275 actually the word means “all embracing” / “universal”…the “paganism” theory is a popular fallacy…So many of our religious tenets can be traced back to ancient civilizations. For example, …our Christian symbol of the cross came from pagan times, but we as Christians adopted the symbol of the cross as we believe that our Lord was crucified on a cross. So many symbols of our faith come to us via our ancients.
@@lewlewbelle7275 agree…so that is why we should be careful to label any religious belief as “pagan”…as many symbols within our Christian Church are as you say “seeped in paganism…’
Matt, i agree with most everything you teach, i am sorry but you are mistaken about the Catholic Church. I wish you would watch The Councel of Tent podcast with Trent Horn. Anyway. God bless you.
Well said totally 💯👏 Also if we are going to talk about Scripture, the holidays we celebrate Christmas and Easter are not biblical either. No such authority was given, but we are given authority to keep God’s appointed ‘Holy Days.’ Such as Passover, Pentecost, Day of Atonement, Tabernacles. According to the New Testament these holy days were kept by the disciples, apostles and Christ himself and as he is the one we follow, than surely these are to be remembered and celebrated and not man/tradition Easter, Christmas. 🔥📖🔥
I agree completely! You can see one of my videos on how exactly we should all be following God's ordained feast days (as described in the bible) if you are interested.
Just another quick thought - have you considered steel manning the Catholic position rather than straw manning it? I’d suggest doing thorough research and learn what the most scholarly and educated Catholics have to say on all matters of faith and morals in the Christian sphere. God bless ❤
The whole issue with Roman Catholicism can be summed up in just a few words. Roman Catholicism is nothing more than paganism that has been "Christianized." It's that simple!
Well I survived your last video. Thank you. This message covers many religions. And I will repeat what I said in the last one. Just because a person or a church starts out well they can fall from that status through sin. God leaves and they try to keep the system going. A few examples are Samson, Saul, and the story of Shiloh. God leaves and takes it away. Read how God answered His prophets. With fire from Heaven. After a generation they had to bring their own matches. And then after a while the flame went out of the temple.
True! But first he needs a good hit in the face of the hard truth about his errors not to mention his blasphemies so that hopefully (if he has a heart opened to truth) he could repent and come to Christ.
Catholics believe the church is the final authority, and Protestants believe the scriptures for that role. But all authority is given to Jesus in heaven and on earth: so even with the scriptures, we must focus on how they speak of Him in order to get them right. It is here that we will find no more winds of doctrine (Ephesians 4:13).
As a devout Roman Catholic for almost 70 years I can honestly say I have never ever met or heard a priest arrogant or self-righteous enough to tear apart or disparage other religions. Judge not and you won't be judged.
Many Christians say that we shouldn’t judge others. This is one of the greatest theological misunderstandings that I come across. They often quote ” Judge, not, that you be not judged.” (Matthew 7:1). Yet, they neglect to quote the following verses, which tell us exactly how we are to judge, thus completely taking the verse out of context. There are also a number of other verses about judging, those who profess to be Christians, but are living in a way that is antithetical to biblical Christianity. Below is a video that I did a little while back, which teaches: - That we are commanded to judge these people - Why we are to judge these people - How we are to judge these people Hopefully this helps to give people a better understanding on the matter. ua-cam.com/video/u2aRyF6UaWk/v-deo.html Ps. Do you actually realise that you are judging me for judging? I thought you said we can’t judge? Now you’re judging me! Do you see the irony…? 😛 Check out the video link above to understand what the Bible says on the matter 🙂
ASK THIS QUESTION TO ANY DENOMINATION OR RELIGION. DO I NEED TO BECOME A - - - - ( you fill in blank, Mormon, Jw, budda,Muslim,catholic,baptist,etc…..) TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE? ( I don’t mention heaven or hell, that leads you down a rabbit trail and debating) just say eternal life. IF THEY SAY YES? Then Jesus isn’t enough, you need Jesus + their religion to gain eternal life. ( according to Christianity that’s blasphemy) Jesus is MORE THAN ENOUGH ALONE) if they say no? Then I ask why do you pursue me? It’s irrelevant which denomination, or religion I am to gain eternal life. Moral dilemma either way. 😳😳😳
I knew the RC church did not recognize the authority of scripture, but I did not know that its roots were in the 4th century. Thanks for the history lesson. I will look at this.
@bc5441. The Catholic Church is not a 4th century invention. It was founded by Jesus in AD 33. It was legalised and freed from Roman persecution in AD 313. The channel is wrong.
This phrase "..through grace alone..." Paul wrote, give a verse quoting the Messiah that Paul is repeating. Otherwise either Paul is introducing something outside the teachings of the Messiah or you don't have a clue what Paul is talking about. I'll wait....
So anything that is written in the Bible that Jesus didn’t say directly (in other parts of the Bible) is false? So we can throw out the whole qualifications for church leadership then. Jesus never mentioned that. We can throw out all foods being clean. Jesus never mentioned that. We can throw out instructions to husbands and wives. Jesus never mentioned that. Silly logic…
@@lionoffireraw where does it say all "foods" are clean? Food God gave us is clean, not pigs and shellfish! When I was in the hospital, they told me pigs are not food! I said', I know." They said pigs have no sweat glands and retain all their toxins, I said "I know." people say pigs are raised on corn today and you can eat them. Did they suddenly grow sweat glands? God told His disciples "Follow Me! We say ALL scripture is good, well it says "He who eats swine's flesh, the ABOMINATION and the mouse, shall not enter the kingdom of heaven! there you go, that is Scripture! Isaiah 66.
Does this sound like a 4th century invention? “You must follow the lead of the bishop, as Jesus Christ followed that of the Father, follow the presbytery as you would the Apostles; reverence the deacons as you would God’s commandment. Let no one do anything touching the Church, apart from the bishop. Let that celebration of the Eucharist be considered valid which is held under the bishop or anyone who he has committed it. Where the bishop appears, there let the people be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the CATHOLIC Church (emphasis mine). It is not permitted without authorization of the bishop either to baptize….He who honors the bishop is honored by God. He who does anything without the knowledge of the bishop worships the devil.” - Ignatius of Antioch, letter to the Smyrnaeans (107 AD, a disciple of the Apostle John) "It is incumbent to obey the presbyters who are in the Church-those who, as I have shown, possess the succession from the apostles; those who, together with the succession of the episcopate, have received the infallible charism of truth, according to the good pleasure of the Father. But [it is also incumbent] to hold in suspicion others who depart from the primitive succession, and assemble themselves together in any place whatsoever, either as heretics of perverse minds, or as schismatics puffed up and self-pleasing, or again as hypocrites, acting thus for the sake of lucre and vainglory. For all these have fallen from the truth". - Ireneaus of Lyons, Against Heresies, 4:26:2, 180 AD “When we refer to them that tradition which originated from the Apostles, which is preserved by means of the succession of the presbyters in the churches, they object to tradition, saying they themselves are wiser not merely than the presbyters, but even the Apostles”. - Ireneaus, Against the Heresies, 3.2.2, 180 AD Brother, read the early Church fathers and you will see that always has been the Catholic Church in union with the Bishop of Rome.
There are a few issues with this. There were actually MULTIPLE bishops at the time, who even disagreed with one another. This means that at least some of the bishops were in error. Were the people to continue to listen to these. Bishops, who were in error? Of course not! Secondly, catholic simply means universal. I am catholic, in that sense. But I am not Roman Catholic. So that really means nothing when he says catholic, in relation to the RCC. Thirdly, there is no mention of the particular view of the Eucharist. Fourthly, the early church fathers are not infallible. These are the words of men, not of God.
A few lines down from the quote you posted is this (from Ignatius)… ⬇️ “But shall I, when permitted to write on this point, reach such a height of self-esteem, that though being a condemned man, I should issue commands to you as if I were an apostle”? [Ignatius, bishop of Antioch:] I do not, as Peter and Paul, issue commandments to you. They were apostles. Ignatius (c. 105, E), 1.75.
@@lionoffireraw What is your point? Ignatius wasn't an apostle (as he states) but he was the Bishop of Antioch and therefore had apostolic succession. He defended existing doctrine and never tried to invent new doctrine.
@@lionoffireraw Not really as Catholics were in union with Rome and therefore can be termed Catholic. Those outside of the Church's teachings were referred to as heretics. The Catholic Church and your so-called Roman Catholic are one in the same Church. The word 'Roman' refers to the Latin Church (the Latin rite). At the time of the ECFs, there were not the different rites and therefore the Church is referred to simply as the Catholic Church (as the name of my parish - St Thomas More Catholic Church). If you do not follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, then you are not Catholic or "catholic" if you like. What bishops are you referring to and what doctrines were they in disagreement? Why the Eucharist as the topic is one of authority? Of course they weren't infallible and they didn't have to be as they were defending existing doctrine and not defining new doctrine.
The most damning teaching and practice of Catholicism is infant baptism which gives those who were baptized a false hope and false assurance of possessing salvation
No doubt, but Catholics have no monopoly on that. There are phonies and people who lead double lives in every religion and community. The inconsistency of someone's behavior with his stated creed does not prove that creed wrong. Jesus reproved the Pharisees for hypocrisy and self-righteousness but not for their belief in the inspiration of the Torah, and he defended the oral tradition on the resurrection of the body against the Sadducees. If you want to criticize individual Catholics or Catholic institutions, go ahead. But that is not the same as proving that Catholic doctrine is false.
While I agree with you, it troubles me that early Christians had a worship service very similar to the Catholic Mass today and many modern non-Catholic Christians have left those practices behind. The Catholic Church has established non-Biblical beliefs and practices over time, but most modern Christians don’t worship in the same way as early Christians.
@@Gigi2four Yes, celebrating the Lord’s Supper is mentioned in the New Testament. Also, lots of information about this subject in writings by the early church fathers, the Didache, and other early Christian writings. There is no doubt or debate as to the nature of early Christian worship services.
@@Gigi2four The Mass is composed of two services or liturgies, joined together. The first part is the Liturgy of the Word, composed of biblcal readings and prayer and preaching. The Jews already worshiped in synagogues with a service of the Word, and Jesus and his disciples clearly attended the synagogue. The apostles, after Jesus' resurrection, also went to the synagogues and proclaimed Christ there. When Christians were no longer able to attend the Jewish synagogue, they continued to have services of the Word. I don't know of any Christian groups that reject the reading of Scripture, prayer, or preaching. The second part of the Mass is the Liturgy of the Eucharist. It was given by Christ to his apostles and through them to all baptized believers. It was given in the context of a Passover celebration. An early Christian Eucharist is briefly summarized and referred to in 1 Corinthians 11.23-27. So, yes, there is reference to the Eucharist there, even if the details of the ritual are not clearly specified. From the earliest Christian writings that we have, this rite of the Eucharist was practiced by Christians. Bread and wine were brought forward. In the context of a prayer of thanksgiving (Eucharist means thanksgiving), the words of Christ over the bread and wine were spoken. These were believed to be the true Body and Blood of Christ, and these were received in communion. That is why many Protestants, such as Anglicans and Lutherans and Methodists, retain an order of service that is similar to that of the Catholic Mass, even if they do not believe all that Catholics believe about it. Justin Martyr, who was put to death by the pagan Romans, described Christian worship around 155 AD: "On the day we call the day of the sun, all who dwell in the city or country gather in the same place. The memoirs of the apostles and the writings of the prophets are read, as much as time permits. When the reader has finished, he who presides over those gathered admonishes and challenges them to imitate these beautiful things. Then we all rise together and offer prayers* for ourselves . . .and for all others, wherever they may be, so that we may be found righteous by our life and actions, and faithful to the commandments, so as to obtain eternal salvation. When the prayers are concluded we exchange the kiss. Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to him who presides over the brethren. He takes them and offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and for a considerable time he gives thanks (in Greek: eucharistian) that we have been judged worthy of these gifts. When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: 'Amen.' When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the "eucharisted" bread, wine and water and take them to those who are absent."
@@Gigi2four From Justin Martyr (put to death by Roman pagans), describing early Christian worship around AD 155: "On the day we call the day of the sun, all who dwell in the city or country gather in the same place. The memoirs of the apostles and the writings of the prophets are read, as much as time permits. When the reader has finished, he who presides over those gathered admonishes and challenges them to imitate these beautiful things. Then we all rise together and offer prayers* for ourselves . . .and for all others, wherever they may be, so that we may be found righteous by our life and actions, and faithful to the commandments, so as to obtain eternal salvation. When the prayers are concluded we exchange the kiss. Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to him who presides over the brethren. He takes them and offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and for a considerable time he gives thanks (in Greek: eucharistian) that we have been judged worthy of these gifts. When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: 'Amen.' When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the "eucharisted" bread, wine and water and take them to those who are absent."
1 Cor 4:6 ...'.you must not go beyond what is written". But as you rightly pointed out, the catholic church and others have become an authority unto themselves. So they are above the God breathed scriptures, another reason why they believe that God is present in their church, only as long as a priest is present. So much for God's omnipresence. Bless you Brother.
That is false. The Second Vatican Council taught in Dei Verbum (On Divine Revelation): "This teaching office is not above the word of God, but serves it, teaching only what has been handed on, listening to it devoutly, guarding it scrupulously and explaining it faithfully in accord with a divine commission and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it draws from this one deposit of faith everything which it presents for belief as divinely revealed." While we do believe that there are certain things that only a priest has authority and ability to do in the Church (such as the consecration of the Eucharist and absolution in confession), it is a dogma of the Catholic faith that God is omnipresent and that Christ promised always to be with us. That "us" includes both the pastors and the faithful. And even most Protestant groups, even if they don't believe in an essential difference between the pastor and the faithful, do generally reserve certain functions to the minister, as a matter of good order and training.
Any claim can be made in defence of the catholic church's doctrine, however "adherence" to sound biblical doctrine is something else, and I'm afraid the catholic church's history speaks of anything but! After studying church history for enough years, has convinced me that the "universal" church has been nothing short of barbaric in it's treatment of anyone who refused to comply with it's demands, it's pillaging of foreign countries, the despicable treatment and institutional rape of thousands of children and the complete apathy to address it, and so the list goes on. So while you may defend your church as being Christ's chosen and your pope as being God's authoritive mouthpiece on earth, I'm afraid your history says other! I know first hand, because I've been on the receiving end of it!!
I'm sorry i have to laugh! It's their very intent that their followers don't read the Bible! In the past the catholic church burned bibles as well as ppl who tried to spread God's written Word.
That is not true. The Second Vatican Council said this in its Constitution on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum): "The sacred synod also earnestly and especially urges all the Christian faithful, especially Religious, to learn by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures the "excellent knowledge of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 3:8). "For ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ." Therefore, they should gladly put themselves in touch with the sacred text itself, whether it be through the liturgy, rich in the divine word, or through devotional reading, or through instructions suitable for the purpose and other aids which, in our time, with approval and active support of the shepherds of the Church, are commendably spread everywhere. And let them remember that prayer should accompany the reading of Sacred Scripture, so that God and man may talk together; for "we speak to Him when we pray; we hear Him when we read the divine saying.""
Actually, the Trinity is not explicit within the New Testament. That is your renegotiation of the text. You could cite Theophilus of Antioch, Polycarp, or Ignatius, all suggested ideas of the Trinity at least 125 years after the death of Jesus Christ, but the Trinity was not an established concept in Christianity, and it was not officially accepted until the 4th century CE.
That is not what I thought was the worst thing about the catholic church. It seems that even when they come out of that cult it is nearly impossible to get those lies out of their spirits, even after being born-again. This is not true for all who truly turn to Yeshua but many, many of them. So sad.
Yes, bang on the money. The problem you will have as a result is trying to convince them that their bibles for example are corrupt. The answers are long and involved, even complicated. A person has to weigh up how much of an argument to make based on the heart of the one we are trying to bring to the truth.
On what basis do you claim that the Catholic Bible is corrupt, when it was through the Catholic Church that the Bible has been handed down to us? There were no Protestants preaching Sola Scriptura and justification by faith alone until the 16th century. And even Protestant Reformers respected the early Church Fathers and accepted the early Catholic Councils that defined the person and nature of Christ as true God and true Man.
@@user-nd8qz9ch5t You are the best example I could have hoped for to demonstrate what I was talking about! Firstly there is difference between The early Catholic church and the current Roman Catholic Church it morphed into whereby church doctrine was decided by men not scripture. Secondly, if you are not a Roman Catholic it does not mean you are Protestant. The true bible in the English Language is not the Catholic bible it is the King James Bible. It is provable as laid out in books by Gale Ripplingler, Floyd Nolan Jones and if you want the skinny on the Catholic Church books by Dave Hunt. The Catholic Bible teaches works salvation. You only have to turn on your T.V. For two minutes before consulting the book of Romans in the KJV to know you’ll never make it on your own. I also must mention the work Brenton Peterson is doing on his site Truth is Christ in verifying the KJV. What the Catholic church has handed down through the centuries is power over the people. Exclusivity of doctrine for the hierarchy. A position of “we’ll tell you what the bible says, do as we say.” You know? Nicolatians! It is still in the Catholic promotional material they put out today! A man in place of Christ? You defend that position?
I guess it depends on what Bible you read, Catholics have more books in their Bible, who are you to assume what's inspired or not, have you read the early church Fathers such as Ignatius and polycarp?
Just look what happed when people took the Bible alone as their authority. We have thousands of denominations all teaching different things. I don’t think that is what Jesus wanted. He prayed that all would be one. We are not one at this point. He cannot be happy about that.
I wonder if there is a sense in which this is true, that Christians are one. I believe the Father heard and answers Jesus prayer. Otherwise, would it be that the Father has denied this request or that Jesus was wrong in praying this?
Better than having authority to interpret the Scriptures, concentrated in one place, where when get it wrong, everyone is led into error!! The fact is that there are so many denominations, who despite having disagreements on secondary issues, agree to the core doctrines of Christianity (divinity of Christ, virgin birth, resurrection, heaven and hell, infallibility of the Bible etc). This actually shows how crystal clear these core doctrines are!! And just because people have disagreements on secondary issues, this doesn’t mean that the Bible isn’t clear. It means that man can read his bias into a text, just like with any other text.
@johnsmit5999 Well, the Father denied Jesus request to let this cup pass from me. So, as any good Father he can say no, however, when Jesus prayed that we all be one, that may be His desire but we still have free will. Jesus chose 12 men and put Peter as the head to be a visible sign of Jesus on earth. That did not make him sinless, it only made him the leader. Perfectly sensible. He gave him the keys which point back to Isaiah, the person with the keys held the authority. That's the way it was for 1500 yrs until someone decided they had a better way than Jesus. Of course after that we now have thousands of different denominations all teaching something different. That is not being of one mind like Jesus wanted.
@lionoffireraw so you don't think 7 sacraments is a core doctrine? You don't think that Communion is receiving Jesus Body and Blood is a core doctrine? You don't think the Mass is a core doctrine? St. Justin wrote to the pagan emperor Antonio's Pius around 155 explaining what Christians did during worship. It is basically the same today. I think that these things are very important.
@@kaykrause4469 I believe it is the gospel which is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes. Jesus taught the disciples that He would die for our sins, be buried and rise again the 3rd day for our justification. This is the key for mankind to be set free from their sins and live eternal with God. Because of Christ's atonement, we can also be healed physically. This is another key that demonstrates the goodness of God towards us.
Very happy faithful Catholic here. First, a challenge: Where in the bible, if we look at the scriptures as you say, does it say 'by grace alone, by faith alone'. It's simply not there. The only time the scriptures use 'Faith alone' is in James, where it says 'Not by faith alone'. Just a word for all our Protestant Brothers and Sisters: have you researched the opposing view? Have you listened to what the smartest people in the Church's history have said about any of these issues of debate? I humbly suggest, if you have not, please do so. If for no other reason than to understand what Catholics actually believe, and not what Protestant UA-camrs say we believe. I went from atheism, to Protestantism, to Catholicism, and only there did I find true faith, and true peace, and the real Lord Jesus Christ, our Saviour. God Bless
Ephesians 2:8-9 There are many false doctrines in the Catholic Church. It’s the result of trusting the authority of men, over the authority of the Word of God.
You spread your own doctrine. No need to touch Catholic doctrine. Everywhere non Catholic people will spread wrong doctrines. This is not Christian spirit.
@@lionoffireraw I know what necromancy is. It is horrible. That is not what we are doing I mean, we and I myself do not pray to family members, loved ones, friends etc . Who are disceast. Only those who have been canonized by the Vatican . And when we do pray to them, we just ask them to pray for us. Just like you would a fellow church member or friend or family. I don't expect everyone to understand or agree with this. It is not the same . I know you have very good teachings. God bless you. youtube.com/@thecounseloftrent?si=YzJfrkal-trYw0tW
Mathew 19: 16-22 16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” 17 “….. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” 18 “Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]” 20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” 21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” 22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Now tell me you prod heretic, why didn't Jesus say, "What are you talk about doing a good thing. All you have to do is believe in me"?
@@lionoffireraw In the Gospels Jesus is asked a direct question. "....what GOOD THING (work) MUST I do to get eternal life? Jesus answers this direct question "keep the commandments" This a work. He also tells him to do a WORK of charity. Only prods like you can twist this and other bible passages (James 2:24) to deny the necessity (MUST DO) of works. In Ephesian, St. Paul is speaking not Jesus. Surely you know that Fathers and Modern Catholic apologists have shown that this does not exclude the necessity of GOOD WORKS. Acquaint yourself with this scholarship before you make a fool of yourself again.
You lost me at 4th century invention. Have you read early church history up until the 4th century? You are in for a big shock. I'm genuinely shocked at your lack of research. Since this video is not really in depth at all I'll just give a few blanket statements myself. -What came first, the Church or scripture? You do realise that the Church existed before the fullness of scripture right? What does the bible say is the pillar and foundation of truth? The church (1 Tim 3:15). -Sola Scriptura is not feasible, not all churches had access to all scriptures until the bible was canonised. Look historically at literacy rates up until today, 1 in 10 people in 1820 were literate, so what do you think the literacy rates would've been in the early church? People relied on oral tradition heavily back in the early church, which includes reading parts of scripture, because churches did not have access to the fullness of scripture until the 4th century (2 Thess 2:15). -Popes existed way before the 4th century and are accounted for all the way back to Peter, the mentioning of the Catholic church exist way before Constantine had anything to do with allowing Christianity to be practiced. -The bible you have today was historically canonised at the council of Rome 382AD, a CATHOLIC council. This includes the 7 deuterocanonical books which were removed after the reformation in the 19th century. Protestants never give a historical account for the canonisation of the Bible because they have to admit it came from the Catholic church. -Read what the early church fathers had to say about the Eucharist/Lord's supper -Read what the early church fathers had to say about Baptismal Regeneration -Catholic teaching supports we are saved through grace and not of works. The sacraments are God's grace poured out in our life and are not so called works. -There is nothing wrong with tradition, you're going to tell me your Protestant faith isn't based on traditions formed from the 16th century? There is a difference between Sacred Tradition and traditions of men? I could go on but there's enough here to get you thinking, God Bless you.
Just a few points… 1. The Scriptures existed long before they were canonised, and they were considered authoritative. The RCC did not come before those manuscripts existed.! 2. There were multiple bishops in the early church, not one singular Bishop of Rome, who was in charge over everyone. The concept of the Pope did not exist in the early church. 3. The official position of the RCC is that salvation is not by faith alone. (Council of Trent - 1545 to 1563 ⬇️ During the the sixth session, the Council issued a decree saying that, “If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.” 4. The early church fathers were not infallible. Any belief on baptismal regeneration, is something formed in the minds of fallible man, not contained in the authoritative teachings of the apostles. 5. Fourth century invention ⬇️ www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html
@@lionoffireraw thanks for your response. Former protestant here btw 😁 1. Yes of course they existed long before they were canonised, that's not the point. The point is humans needed to be guided by inspiration of the Holy Spirit as to which scriptures were inspired and which were apocrypha. Catholic's can give you the historical reference as to who, when and where the scriptures were canonised. The scriptures weren't canonised magically, the council of Rome is where that happened. 2. Yes there were, that doesn't mean there wasn't a pope. One example is Ignatius of Antioch who reference the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. 3. Good works and faith go hand-in-hand. Catholic teaching is one can choose to forfeit their salvation through mortal sin. This essentially means that if we don't co-operate with God's grace and carry the good works He has entrusted with us to do (Eph 2:10) then we are left vulnerable to grave sin because we are rejecting God. What bible verse states we are saved by faith ALONE? When the council of Trent is stating that our justification is increased, this is in terms of our sanctification. There are two terms: Initial justification (both Protestants and Catholics agree on this), and then ongoing justification which is actually very similar to what protestants define as sanctification. In summary, it's not the works that save you - it's whether you choose to co-operate with God's grace, or reject His grace for you. 4. Well every church father believed in Baptismal Regeneration... including the two direct descendants of the apostle John which were Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp. Are you willing to accept that these two bishops got it wrong from the apostle John and for the next 1500 years until the reformation? I don't think so. Furthermore Martin Luther believed in baptismal regeneration too. 5. Gotquestions is historically inaccurate - too many protestants treat gotquestions as if it's on par with scripture. The founder is a 4 point calvinist so I'm not surprised that the article is misinformed on church history. Having said that there is many things I agree with them on particular topics, however they are quite anti-catholic and typically misrepresent the Catholic faith.
@@lionoffireraw Of course there were many bishops in the fourth century, just as there are many bishops now. The Catholic understanding of a particular "church" (rightly ordered assembly of God's holy people) is that of a bishop with his priests and deacons and faithful. So every diocese is a Catholic "church" in that sense. From as early as we have records, the bishop of Rome had a special role in preserving the unity of these diocesan churches among themselves, without presuming to take over the actual role of being a universal bishop. Still today, the diocesan bishop is a successor of the apostles, not just the pope's branch manager. You are operating under a misunderstanding of what the papal office is.
But see here you are trying to make a video against people and you're just as guilty. I'm not a catholic. I don't know why people are coming out of the woodwork.And saying things and making videos trying to refute people when they're guilty. in the Bible.Does it say faith alone. Except that it isn't. And there's no use in saying Christ alone.Because that isn't gonna get you. First off you can point to jesus christ all day long and his blood does not cover people that are out here in sin.
@@lionoffireraw How can one get from one kingdom to the other (vv 1-7)? By the unity of grace, faith, and works (v. 9)Not that these are equal, for grace is uncreated and infinite, whereas our faith is limited and can grow; good works flow out of authentic faith. Works cannot earn us this great treasure - it i s a pure gift-but those that receive this gift do good. We are not saved by good works, but FOR good works (v 10)....something I read
Wasn’t the concept of the trinity come from ancient Babylonians with nimrod, Semiramis (queen of heaven), Tammuz (sun) which is where the pagan Sun symbology comes from and is all over it, even some “Christian” church’s have a solar symbol which refers to sun worship. Sol Invictus god of the Roman Empire. They kept it but just changed it a little and told them with their made up authority that this is or people never even questioned it.
The Pope would claims to be infallible believes the following ; 1. The Pope is referred as the head of the church. Actually Jesus Christ is the head of the church. Last time I checked the Pope did not die for the church. Christ died for the church. 2. The Pope refers to himself as the Holy Father. The only Holy Father is reserved for our Father in heaven. Matthew 23:9 “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.” 3. The Pope is refer to as the Vicar of Christ( Christ substitute on earth). The only substitute for Christ on earth is the Holy Spirit. John 15:26-27 “I will send you the Helper from the Father. The Helper is the Spirit of truth who comes from the Father. When he comes, he will tell about me. And you will tell people about me too, because you have been with me from the beginning. Based on the statements above, the Pope is the Godhead. He has stolen the Trinity. This is the kind of false doctrine that comes from the Roman Catholic Church.
@@charlespoe5155 the concept of the Trinity (I know some people don’t like that word) comes from God himself. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, 3 eternally distinct persons of the One True God. They each have the same characteristics and personality, but with different functions and roles. Eternally distinct but eternally unified. In the Bible we see where They were all there during creation, when man was made in the image of God and all throughout both old and new testaments of the Bible. So any other “trinities” are counterfeits (false) and came from the original Trinity. Which came first the chicken or the egg? So I’ll ask which came first the One True God/Creator or the ancient Babylonians?
@@lewlewbelle7275 yes I agree that some don’t like that word. I personally don’t have an issue with it or it’s concept and especially the true trinity. My issue is when it’s twisted, but then again that is the Vatican the divine serpent in Latin the language of deception doing his thing and blending their doctrine that looks like they are talking about God, Jesus, Holy Spirit but they are talking about Nimrod, Mary (queen of heaven Semiramis ) Jesus (Tammuz) the sun god not the Son of God. That’s where mystery Babylon the Great that is hard to catch but is doable helps the mother Harlot full of abominations.
The Trinity is the most agreed upon doctrine of all time; it has become the acid test for whether a church is true, or whether it should be considered a cult. The term itself is coined, but the concept is Biblically sound. It is the only doctrine that has ever been found that can account for everything the scriptures say about the person of God, agree with all of them, and be refuted by none. Maybe we can get Matt to do a video on the subject one day soon.
@michelleschultz=exactly. No one has that authority. Heb 4:9! and if Yeshua (Joshua in English, not Jesus) had given them another day, He would've spoken of it!
Well not totally convinced. I am Catholic and I can assure you that Jesus alone is Lord. Yes we have traditions but they are more no more than that. The bottom line is that Jesus is Lord.
@@lionoffireraw A certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” Luke 11: 27-28 “henceforth all generations will call me blessed.” Luke 1:48
Look at 2Corinthians 11:13-15. The Catholic church is the ultimate fulfillment of these 3 verses making it Satans counterfit of the REAL THING. A good study of Daniel, led by the Holy Spirit will reveal the Papacy as the horn that plucked up 3 by the roots and the Popes as the mouth speaking great things. In light of this your headline of "the BIGGEST problem" falls short of being truth. You said things that are correct, but overall this is the evidence that you are unqualified to judge "another mans servant". Repent and continue to study young man, that the Lord may bless you with TRUTH.
The Bible is a collection of manuscripts that were in circulation from the time of the apostles. They weren’t “invented” by the RCC in the fourth century...
@@lionoffirerawyou have a wrong knowledge of history. After Jesus's Ascension, there were many letters and epistles written. Some were false writings and some were heretical. The Catholic Church in 3 Councils around AD 400 reviewed and filtered through these letters and epistles and settled which were authentic and true inspired letters and which were false writings. So the canon of the NT was decided by the Catholic Church at that time. There was no official OT canon at the time of Jesus. So the Catholic Church also concluded the OT canon in these 3 councils . The Church has the authority because Jesus give them in Matt 18:18 1 Tim 3:15 Matt 28:16-20
If you were to go back to the early church, you would not find a Bible. The church came before the Bible, the Bible came together in 397 or there abouts through the authority of the Catholic Church. Even the Bible says that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth. Not the Bible. I think it is you who needs to study a little more. The Bible is a Catholic book. Jesus renamed Peter and said on this Rock I, Jesus, will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against her. Jesus said He would remain with His church till the end of time. I believe that. That means His church is kept free from teaching error when it comes to faith and morals. His church still stands today, still being guided by the Holy Spirit. We don’t trust men, we trust the Holy Spirit guiding those men just as he guided them to put the canon of the Bible together.
The Scriptures existed long before they were canonised, and they were considered authoritative. The RCC did not come before those manuscripts existed.!
@johnsmit5999 I'm sorry, no. Read the text, it says nothing like that. He changed his name to Peter meaning Rock and then said and on this Rock I will build my church. Why is it so hard to believe that God could use a man to build His Church on. He is God, He knew He wouldn't be physically here and wanted someone to be the head on earth. The Holy Spirit would work through this man and the teaching authority Jesus would leave behind. If He didn't set it up there would have been chaos. Even secular institutions have a hierarchy so things run smoothly. Jesus was smart enough to know what we would need. He gave the authority to His Apostles to preach, teach, heal, turn bread into His body and wine into His blood. God can do anything He wants. He wanted to feed us with His very self. God loves us that much. That is when many walked away. Drinking blood was against their law and yet it was what Jesus said to do, not just once but several times. The Mass is being at calvary, it is the unbloody sacrifice of Jesus. Not a resacrifice but the same one only non bloody. Why? Because Jesus told the the Apostles to do what He had just done at the last supper. Turn bread and wine into His body and blood. He is God, He can do this, unfortunately Martin Luther broke that line because he was only a priest with no authority to make a priest. Only a Bishop can do that. So in other words you can only get the true body blood soul and divinity of Jesus in Communion in the Catholic Church.
@lionoffireraw I said the RCC was the one who put the Canon together. There were all kinds of scriptures out there. Many of which did not make it in the Canon of the Bible as we know it today. The church came first, then in around 393 at the council of Hippo the church put together the Canon of scripture we have today. Of course when Luther came he then removed 7 books and wanted to remove even more. Tobit Judith, first and second maccabees. Wisdom ,Sirach, and Baruch. Those are the 7 books that he got rid of. 1Tim 3:15 the church of the living God the pillar and bulwark of truth. Even the Bible says the church is the pillar of truth. Which church?
@@kaykrause4469 The church is the body of Christ, who have come to know Jesus personally by being born from above. They attend all kinds of different fellowships.
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Well said! God Bless you.
Same here, thank God for saving me
Thank you for addressing this difficult subject. Praying for our family and friends that they see the Biblical truth.
Elevating tradition above the bible will lead to all kinds of false doctrines, that's why the principle of sola scriptura is so important.
It’s both, tradition and scripture, they are equal. What did they do for 300 yrs before the canon was put together? The Bible wasn’t dropped intact from the sky. You accept the authority of the Catholic Church when you accept your Bible, they put it together.
@@kaykrause4469Amen
We need to pray that the deception be removed and their eyes opened to Christ and the real meaning of the Cross.
Everything rises and falls under the authority of the truth of the Word of God
Imagine if all professing Christians bowed down to the authority of Scripture!?
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I wish it would happen now. But unfortunately when the scriptures day that everyone knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord
The problem is a lot of professing Christians are not Christians at all. I no longer refer to people as Christians, I called them believers.
@@gradyjohnson7853 unfortunately when Christ returns it will be too late for those who rejected Gods Grace and faith in Jesus Christ.
When Jesus returns, He will be ready for war (Revelation 19:11-16)
@@TerryF-ht4qf you referenced a verse I use all the time. This is during seal 6 and 7. It refers to the daynof the Lord. But ot is not just a Day. Ot is a period of time of war and also of salvation for some. Please read Isaiah 63:1-10 but especially verse 4, zech 14, zech 9:14-16, and Jeremiah 30-31 and especially 31:1 and many other verses in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah. The judgement doesn't come until after the millennial reign after satan is thrown into the lake of fire. Rev20:11-15. Bit when Jesus comes and fight against the nations it's over for them.
You have been blessed with so much wisdom. I love your comment that if purgatory were true then we are saying Christ's death on the cross is not enough. Blessings to you Matt. Thank you for sharing.
Amen, Amen, Amen!
Matt, you speak truth!
My mother was catholic and couldn't marry my Protestant father in the catholic church! I think at some point, she was grieved, but I never heard or saw her grief! She took us to a Methodist church and never heard her complain, nor did I see her praying with a rosary! My mother embraced the Methodist church and volunteered to be the secretary for the meetings that no one wanted to do!
I was in the choir, went to many speggitti dinners , and went to church summer camp, which my mother volunteered again!
Great church memories!❤️❤️❤️
She passed in 1978, at age 51and I was 24 and all these years. As I am now going on 71, I still miss her sweetness!
I truly think she enjoyed the Methodist church more than the catholic church!
God bless you, Matt, for speaking about this!✝️🙏❤️
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I'm sure they missed her too Ruth, what sweet memories to have!🙏
The main problem with the RCC is their rejection of the finished work of Jesus Christ. They feel the need to have their personal input to scripture and salvation. The redeeming power of the blood of Jesus Christ is not sufficient for them. Pray for those held in bondage by the false doctrine and teaching of the RCC. May God deliver them.
I’m so grateful to have found your channel. 🙏
Welcome. I’m so glad that it’s a blessing to you. Matt 🙏
I’ll post my other channel below, where I do scripted and edited teachings. Check it out if you like 😃
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@@lionoffirerawthe biggest problem is that you fulfill Matt 24:24.
Thank you for doing this video, Matt! My family and I grew up in the Catholic Church , and later on met my mentor, she told me get out of catholic church and I got saved in her church and converted to Christianity in 1998! I've been learning about alot of demonic things, including how the Pope thinks he's God, what blasphemy! And I'm glad you mentioned the Hail Marys. I use to practice rosary beads and say Hail Mary and Our Father , but I'm learning we are to only go directly to God, The mother of Jesus can't help us! But also when it comes to confession, we are not to go to man confess , only directly to Jesus, I use to do confession with a Priest, I'm learning so much! Blessings, Matt!
I was also raised Catholic and went to Catholic school for 13 years. My lack of a relationship with God eventually led me into atheism. Three Christian friends prayed for me for three years until one day my eyes were opened, and I became Born Again. I've been saved for over 20 years. In the beginning I had no idea how indoctrinated I had been. I too once prayed the rosary, etc. It wasn't until I went to Bible College and began reading the Bible that I began to learn about all the lies and blasphemous teachings of the RCC. I was shocked and angry. Now it just makes me sad because I now have a close, intimate relationship with my Savior, something I would never have had as a Catholic. I changed so drastically that my mother recognized it and she too was Born Again. She, my husband and I were all baptized on Resurrection Sunday. I am so thankful to have been saved from the RCC. I don't hate Catholics, most Catholics have no idea about such things. I just feel empathy for them bc I was once blind and deaf too.
@@CynVee wow, praise God! Thank you for sharing your story, I'm so glad to hear God got a hold of you and your family, Blessings!
@luciaimparato9390 bless you as well, Lucia. We serve a great God. 🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
@@CynVee thank you, Amen to that
Veneration is the very word which RCs use to describe that which we know is idolatry.
And yes, the RC church is an authoritarian state. Literally...literally. Most people don't know that the RC church is the only religious bureaucracy that has been officially recognized as a state by virtually every government in the world. Even in Italy it is legally and diplomatically a separate nation from it's host and has it's own national laws.
It is an authoritarian bureaucracy that has very little to do with our Lord and Savior and far more to do with wealth and power.
Yes!!
I think you do not know what distinguishes veneration from worship.
@@amyshevchenko2476 i do. And you're just parroting the "argument" i always hear from you guys. Please seek Truth instead, cause you're deceived .
@@thekingschild2116 ….. please tell me what that difference is. I did not parrot an argument. I stated that there is a very distinct difference of which you do not know the difference.
@@amyshevchenko2476 I think you do not understand what distinguishes worship from idolatry.
As an ex Roman Catholic I thank God that my parents emigrated from Portugal to South Africa.. My neighbours were all Protestants so at the age of 19 I became a born again Christian. Sadly I wasn't able to get my parents to see the light. They were too indoctrinated and set in their ways.
Well said brother. I was saved by the grace of God out of papism 39 years ago.
Me too, so thankful to the Lord!😊
how can you know to be save by grace, its the complete opposite of grace.
What you say in this video is very, very good, and should be shared frequently.
Well said, i will be forwarding this video! Great Channel. Keep It Going! 🙏 ❤️
Welcome. I’m so glad that it’s a blessing to you. Matt 🙏
I’ll post my other channel below, where I do scripted and edited teachings. Check it out if you like 😃
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Wealth equals power. The Catholic Church had it in the 4th century and this continues in our present day. People want to be associated with power and wealth because of the benefit this brings them in someway, shape or form. A fair trade for the price of their eternal soul do you think? The bible tells us that if we choose worldly things, then we will have our reward!
Amen. I think of Jesus judging the churches in Revelation 2-3. They certainly couldn't tell Jesus, "Wait a minute, we're the original church started when you gave the keys given to Peter!" They were under the rulings of Christ, who is the Word. The Word is not under the churches.
Love and blessings from a fellow Aussie! Keep up the sharing, we are all just beggars telling other beggars where to find bread.
I totally agree with you.
God says not to call a man Father for there is only one Father in Heaven. Telling people you must confess to a man to be forgiven is just plain wrong!
I am a priest myself. Confession is actually confession to GOD in the presence of a priest, who has authority to pronounce absolution. To give a biblical example: King David committed adultery with Bathsheba and brought about the death of her husband Uriah. David was called to repentance by the prophet Nathan. David then confesses his sin and begs pardon, and Nathan can then say, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die” (2 Sm12.13). You see, God does forgive, yet God works through a human minister-in this case, the prophet Nathan.
Look at the Acts of the Apostles, where we read that there were believing Christians who had sinned by practicing magic or occult practices and that they confessed those sins before the apostles (Acts 19.18). St. James says, “Confess your sins to one another” (James 5.16) and says this in connection with the Anointing of the Sick, which is administered by the priests (James 5.14). St. Paul speaks of his apostolic authority to pardon sins “in the presence [literally, in the person] of Christ” (2 Cor 2.10), and he ratifies the penitential decisions made by the pastors of the church at Corinth, in much the same way as a bishop gives faculties to a priest to hear confessions and give absolution.
About the title of "father": it's just a pious custom. I don't insist on it or demand it or teach it as required by God himself. I doubt that human titles will receive much attention in heaven, but there’s nothing wrong with using them in this life, as a sign of respect (Rom 13.7). St Paul says to Timothy, “Let the elders [presbyters] who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching” (1 Tm 5.17). The Apostle addresses Timothy as “my true son in the faith” (1 Tm 1.2). These terms are not really about power or prestige but a recognition that by grace we become members of God’s family.
The Book of Revelation does speak of the 24 presbyters, wearing white robes and having crowns on their heads, bowing down before the Lamb, holding bowls of incense with the prayers of the saints (Rev 4 and 5). The word “priest” is a contraction of the word presbyter. I think we’ll be so absorbed in the worship of the Lamb that titles will not matter much.
I see nothing wrong with referring to a Jewish religious teacher as "Rabbi", simply as courtesy, though Jesus reminded us that we have only one teacher.
Many Protestant ministers are addressed as "doctor," which simply means teacher, if they have a doctorate in theology or divinity. One can use those titles while acknowledging that, in the ultimate sense, Jesus Christ is our one divine Teacher and that we are all learners.
Christ is also the one Good Shepherd, yet there are human beings who act as ministerial shepherds in his service. Pastor means shepherd, and I think you use the term “pastor” for yourself. That doesn’t subtract anything from Christ as the one Good Shepherd. When you see him face to face, will you worry much about the word “pastor”?
Christ is the one Eternal High Priest; yet Christians are a priestly people, and there are ministerial priests who are ordained to offer worship.
Jesus Christ alone is the one Son of God by nature, but we become sons of God by grace: “But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God” (Jn 1.12-13). “For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, “Abba! Father!” it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him” (Rom 8.14-17).
One can take Jesus' words seriously without being such a literalist. The Apostle Paul himself wrote, "For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel” (1 Cor. 4:14-15). The point of Jesus' words is the same as St Paul's in Ephesians 3.14-15: "For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family [or fatherhood] in heaven and on earth is named."
If you are a priest why are you on here casting pearls before swine? The errors all over this are unbelievable. I am not Roman Catholic, but it is clear he does not understand so much about them.
I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages. Light of light; true God of true God; begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by Whom all things were made; Who for us men and for our salvation came down from Heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man. And He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried. And the third day He arose again, according to the Scriptures, and ascended into Heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead; Whose Kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, Who proceeds from the Father; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; Who spoke by the prophets.
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I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.
That isn’t how it works.
@@amyshevchenko2476 I came across this by chance, and the title caught my attention. I want to understand the issues raised by people who object to the Catholic Church, so that I can respond more effectively. As Archbishop Fulton Sheen famously said, "There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church - which is, of course, quite a different thing."
Matt Mason does have some serious misunderstandings about Catholic teaching. However, far from being "swine", he's actually very articulate and trying to defend Christian faith in a hostile culture. I have a lot of respect for that. On some important points, he's excellent: such as the inseparability of a life of sanctification from justification by faith, and also on "Once-Saved-Always-Saved". He also loves Thomas a Kempis's "Imitation of Christ." Also, from his Facebook page, he's borne with faith and courage some heavy crosses in his life. I can only respect that. So I think he deserves the best response that I can give.
Well said. The authority comes from God, God's Word, Jesus Christ.
Love your videos. Hope you don't mind, I pasted the link to this video in my own video description box about why following this religion is wrong.
I will just say , I don’t agree with the confessing of your sins to the Priest he did not die on the cross for your sins. The hail Mary’s too much . This is my own personal feel of it since I was raised in a different church than my husband . He was Catholic growing up .
James 5:16..Therefore confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed. So no priest involved here, only the bretheren within the church.
Amen and Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
I used to be very open to, and accepting of other religious organisations. I even thought the Muslim and Christian god was one and the same! Our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ is very zealous and unapologetic when it comes to the truth.
You know when the true gospel is being preached because it will always end up offending someone who is being deceived. Praying that God will continue to humble our hearts and open our eyes in these last days.
Well said mate 👏 👍 👌
I'm an ex Eastern Orthodox who started reading the scriptures decades ago and found that many of their doctrines and dogmas were contrary to the Scriptures!
Good message. I read that in their catechism, it says that they had the authority to change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.
I believe that only God has that authority.
We are no longer under the sabbath (that’s Old Covenant), but I agree that the RCC has no authority to change anything!!!
@@lionoffireraw Brother, you are wrong, it was written in stone with his own finger! Do you keep the other nine commandments by breaking the 4th? if you break one, you break them all! If you're keeping Sunday, you are Catholic because you are following them!
Thank you!
The only authority that we should listen to is God himself, who is revealed through his holy scripture. We have nothing else that we can be sure is inspired. The words of godly men do not replace the words of God.
Thank you for bringing this to light.🕊♥️
Amen Matt.
I got into an argument in a comment section with someone who claimed being baptized is how you become saved. Of course all the comments were deleted. 😢
I find people within Roman Catholicism very hard to reach and extremely argumentative. They have been told (wrongly) that this organization is the first
Christian Church, and that it’s Jesus’ church. If that were true, then the teachings would be biblically sound. I see nothing about purgatory, rosary beads, etc..in the Word of God. If anything we are told NOT to pray to those that have died, and NOT to make idols. They will argue that they don’t worship those things, but when I see them bowing down in front of, kissing the feet of these statues, and crying, that is exactly what they are doing. I pray the scales fall off their eyes and that they turn to Jesus (not the pope or traditions of the church) and the Word of God as their authority and perfect sacrifice for forgiveness of sins. 💕🙏 My Uncle will not even leave his house without a trinket in his pocket representing Micheal the Archangel. He says he carry’s it for protection. Why not just pray to the Father thru the Son for protection? It’s hard for me to understand the lunacy behind those things.
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:16
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 like so many verses taken out of context, this is a huge one from Catholics. When reading the Bible we have to look at everything else that was taught about these things. It all should mesh and flow together and not seem contradictory. If baptism was required for salvation, then we’re saying Jesus lied to the thief on the cross when He told him, TODAY, you will be with me in paradise. Also, there are several examples in the Bible that show where people were saved (receiving the Holy Spirit) before they were baptized. The evidence of their salvation is the reason why Peter allowed them to be baptized. Requiring anything in addition to faith in Jesus Christ is considered a works-based salvation, no different then every other false religion on earth. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is a gift from God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Ephesians 2:8-9. To add anything to the gospel is to say that Jesus’ death on the cross was not sufficient to purchase our salvation. To say that baptism is necessary for salvation is to say we must add our own good works and obedience to Christ’s death in order to make it sufficient for salvation. Jesus’ death alone paid for our sins (Romans 5:8; 2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus’ payment for our sins is appropriated to our “account” by faith alone (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore, baptism is an important step of obedience after salvation but cannot be a requirement for salvation. We get baptized because we are saved and want to be obedient to God, not the other way around, which is salvation through baptism. I say this with humbleness and love, please study this with a clean slate, not looking through the lens of what you have been told by the Catholic Church. There are a lot of good resources, sermons, and teachings that will help you,but reading the Word of God as a whole and in context is the best and sufficient of all, just like Jesus, because He is the Word. God bless 🙏💕
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Baptism saves because it's a work of God not work of man.
"Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" 1 Peter 3:21
Baptism forgives our sins and we receive the Holy Spirit.
"And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Acts 2:38
"And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name" Acts 22:16
In baptism we are united with Christ.
"For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ." Galatians 3:27
In baptism we died with Christ.
"Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?" Romans 6:3
In baptism we are circumcised by the circumcision of Christ.
"In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead." Colossians 2:11-12
In baptism we are born again.
"Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." John 3:5
In baptism we are washed and born again.
"he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit" Titus 3:5
"that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word" Ephesians 5:26
@@lewlewbelle7275if they bow before statues, they will bow before the Antichrist.
Hallelujah!!! I'm the favorite, $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and the church.
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This is why the reformation happened. Thank the Lord He sent Luther and others to enlighten and change the church. Praise be to Him
That's why Jesus gave us access to the Holy Ghost, who testifies of the truth of all things.
The question is whether the apostles passed down their authority to any successors they may have appointed. What the RC and EO churches have is a bunch of medieval accretions which cut people off from the Gospel and what we have is sola Scriptura and a billion different denominations because everybody (or nearly everybody at least) reads Scripture however they want.
@Daniel_miller300 are you suggesting the Bible should not be relied upon, as the definitive Word of God?
@@Cube_Ernator1077 - I don't know. Sola Scriptura seems to lead to a proliferation of different interpretations and except for in Augustine and possibly Athanasius I can't find it anywhere in the fathers.
Amen my brother❤🙏 You are the best. You make everything make sense.
I’m so glad that it is helpful to you!!
That does make a lot of sense - great point! 👍
A LOT of erroneous misconceptions regarding the Catholic Church expressed here…And so be it as everyone has an opinion to share. Leaving the divinity debate aside let’s remember that “historically” the first Hebrew bible was written sometime between 1200 - 165 B.C. (Old Testament) …And the New Testament bible being written in the first century A.D. Mass produced bibles, as the bible you refer to here in the form of text, were not created until the invention of Gutenberg’s press in the 15th Century. The Church of Christ was established long before the written word. It existed in oral testimony. That is why “tradition” is vital component of Christianity.
Catholic a word meaning United is a lot different than Roman Catholic, which is a combination of the first Church/Christianity and Roman paganism.
@@lewlewbelle7275 actually the word means “all embracing” / “universal”…the “paganism” theory is a popular fallacy…So many of our religious tenets can be traced back to ancient civilizations. For example, …our Christian symbol of the cross came from pagan times, but we as Christians adopted the symbol of the cross as we believe that our Lord was crucified on a cross. So many symbols of our faith come to us via our ancients.
@@mrob75 the whole world, words, holidays, etc…are seeped in false gods and paganism.
@@lewlewbelle7275 agree…so that is why we should be careful to label any religious belief as “pagan”…as many symbols within our Christian Church are as you say “seeped in paganism…’
Amen
At the day of judgment.. there will be big surprises..
Wow!! By its fruits will the tree be judged...
Matt, i agree with most everything you teach, i am sorry but you are mistaken about the Catholic Church.
I wish you would watch The Councel of Tent podcast with Trent Horn.
Anyway.
God bless you.
Just boils down to what you choose to believe.
Well said totally 💯👏
Also if we are going to talk about Scripture, the holidays we celebrate Christmas and Easter are not biblical either. No such authority was given, but we are given authority to keep God’s appointed ‘Holy Days.’
Such as Passover, Pentecost, Day of Atonement, Tabernacles. According to the New Testament these holy days were kept by the disciples, apostles and Christ himself and as he is the one we follow, than surely these are to be remembered and celebrated and not man/tradition Easter, Christmas. 🔥📖🔥
I agree completely! You can see one of my videos on how exactly we should all be following God's ordained feast days (as described in the bible) if you are interested.
exactly!
AMEN YOUNG MAN🩸
My brother in law is a Catholic and I am him if it’s not in the Bible how can it be true. He said tradition matters and what he believes.
Just another quick thought - have you considered steel manning the Catholic position rather than straw manning it?
I’d suggest doing thorough research and learn what the most scholarly and educated Catholics have to say on all matters of faith and morals in the Christian sphere. God bless ❤
The whole issue with Roman Catholicism can be summed up in just a few words. Roman Catholicism is nothing more than paganism that has been "Christianized." It's that simple!
Well I survived your last video. Thank you. This message covers many religions. And I will repeat what I said in the last one. Just because a person or a church starts out well they can fall from that status through sin. God leaves and they try to keep the system going. A few examples are Samson, Saul, and the story of Shiloh. God leaves and takes it away. Read how God answered His prophets. With fire from Heaven. After a generation they had to bring their own matches. And then after a while the flame went out of the temple.
The pope needs Jesus!
True! But first he needs a good hit in the face of the hard truth about his errors not to mention his blasphemies so that hopefully (if he has a heart opened to truth) he could repent and come to Christ.
Catholics believe the church is the final authority, and Protestants believe the scriptures for that role. But all authority is given to Jesus in heaven and on earth: so even with the scriptures, we must focus on how they speak of Him in order to get them right. It is here that we will find no more winds of doctrine (Ephesians 4:13).
As a devout Roman Catholic for almost 70 years I can honestly say I have never ever met or heard a priest arrogant or self-righteous enough to tear apart or disparage other religions. Judge not and you won't be judged.
Many Christians say that we shouldn’t judge others.
This is one of the greatest theological misunderstandings that I come across. They often quote ” Judge, not, that you be not judged.” (Matthew 7:1). Yet, they neglect to quote the following verses, which tell us exactly how we are to judge, thus completely taking the verse out of context. There are also a number of other verses about judging, those who profess to be Christians, but are living in a way that is antithetical to biblical Christianity.
Below is a video that I did a little while back, which teaches:
- That we are commanded to judge these people
- Why we are to judge these people
- How we are to judge these people
Hopefully this helps to give people a better understanding on the matter.
ua-cam.com/video/u2aRyF6UaWk/v-deo.html
Ps. Do you actually realise that you are judging me for judging?
I thought you said we can’t judge?
Now you’re judging me!
Do you see the irony…? 😛
Check out the video link above to understand what the Bible says on the matter 🙂
@@lionoffireraw was I judging you? I was only pointing out what you were doing. Tearing down another religion.
ASK THIS QUESTION TO ANY DENOMINATION OR RELIGION. DO I NEED TO BECOME A - - - - ( you fill in blank, Mormon, Jw, budda,Muslim,catholic,baptist,etc…..) TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE? ( I don’t mention heaven or hell, that leads you down a rabbit trail and debating) just say eternal life. IF THEY SAY YES? Then Jesus isn’t enough, you need Jesus + their religion to gain eternal life. ( according to Christianity that’s blasphemy) Jesus is MORE THAN ENOUGH ALONE) if they say no? Then I ask why do you pursue me? It’s irrelevant which denomination, or religion I am to gain eternal life. Moral dilemma either way. 😳😳😳
Sola scriptura
I knew the RC church did not recognize the authority of scripture, but I did not know that its roots were in the 4th century. Thanks for the history lesson. I will look at this.
@bc5441. The Catholic Church is not a 4th century invention. It was founded by Jesus in AD 33. It was legalised and freed from Roman persecution in AD 313. The channel is wrong.
It is a fourth century invention. Read below ⬇️
www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html
@@lionoffireraw I can also writing something to say that you are a Chinese. Is my writing credible ?
This phrase "..through grace alone..." Paul wrote, give a verse quoting the Messiah that Paul is repeating. Otherwise either Paul is introducing something outside the teachings of the Messiah or you don't have a clue what Paul is talking about. I'll wait....
So anything that is written in the Bible that Jesus didn’t say directly (in other parts of the Bible) is false?
So we can throw out the whole qualifications for church leadership then. Jesus never mentioned that.
We can throw out all foods being clean. Jesus never mentioned that.
We can throw out instructions to husbands and wives. Jesus never mentioned that.
Silly logic…
@@lionoffireraw where does it say all "foods" are clean? Food God gave us is clean, not pigs and shellfish! When I was in the hospital, they told me pigs are not food! I said', I know." They said pigs have no sweat glands and retain all their toxins, I said "I know." people say pigs are raised on corn today and you can eat them. Did they suddenly grow sweat glands? God told His disciples "Follow Me! We say ALL scripture is good, well it says "He who eats swine's flesh, the ABOMINATION and the mouse, shall not enter the kingdom of heaven! there you go, that is Scripture! Isaiah 66.
Does this sound like a 4th century invention?
“You must follow the lead of the bishop, as Jesus Christ followed that of the Father, follow the presbytery as you would the Apostles; reverence the deacons as you would God’s commandment. Let no one do anything touching the Church, apart from the bishop. Let that celebration of the Eucharist be considered valid which is held under the bishop or anyone who he has committed it. Where the bishop appears, there let the people be, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the CATHOLIC Church (emphasis mine). It is not permitted without authorization of the bishop either to baptize….He who honors the bishop is honored by God. He who does anything without the knowledge of the bishop worships the devil.”
- Ignatius of Antioch, letter to the Smyrnaeans (107 AD, a disciple of the Apostle John)
"It is incumbent to obey the presbyters who are in the Church-those who, as I have shown, possess the succession from the apostles; those who, together with the succession of the episcopate, have received the infallible charism of truth, according to the good pleasure of the Father. But [it is also incumbent] to hold in suspicion others who depart from the primitive succession, and assemble themselves together in any place whatsoever, either as heretics of perverse minds, or as schismatics puffed up and self-pleasing, or again as hypocrites, acting thus for the sake of lucre and vainglory. For all these have fallen from the truth".
- Ireneaus of Lyons, Against Heresies, 4:26:2, 180 AD
“When we refer to them that tradition which originated from the Apostles, which is preserved by means of the succession of the presbyters in the churches, they object to tradition, saying they themselves are wiser not merely than the presbyters, but even the Apostles”.
- Ireneaus, Against the Heresies, 3.2.2, 180 AD
Brother, read the early Church fathers and you will see that always has been the Catholic Church in union with the Bishop of Rome.
Look around, the Catholic church has no authority, never has.
There are a few issues with this. There were actually MULTIPLE bishops at the time, who even disagreed with one another. This means that at least some of the bishops were in error. Were the people to continue to listen to these. Bishops, who were in error? Of course not!
Secondly, catholic simply means universal. I am catholic, in that sense. But I am not Roman Catholic. So that really means nothing when he says catholic, in relation to the RCC.
Thirdly, there is no mention of the particular view of the Eucharist.
Fourthly, the early church fathers are not infallible. These are the words of men, not of God.
A few lines down from the quote you posted is this (from Ignatius)… ⬇️
“But shall I, when permitted to write on this point, reach such a height of self-esteem, that though being a condemned man, I should issue commands to you as if I were an apostle”?
[Ignatius, bishop of Antioch:] I do not, as Peter and Paul, issue commandments to you. They were apostles. Ignatius (c. 105, E), 1.75.
@@lionoffireraw What is your point? Ignatius wasn't an apostle (as he states) but he was the Bishop of Antioch and therefore had apostolic succession. He defended existing doctrine and never tried to invent new doctrine.
@@lionoffireraw Not really as Catholics were in union with Rome and therefore can be termed Catholic. Those outside of the Church's teachings were referred to as heretics. The Catholic Church and your so-called Roman Catholic are one in the same Church. The word 'Roman' refers to the Latin Church (the Latin rite). At the time of the ECFs, there were not the different rites and therefore the Church is referred to simply as the Catholic Church (as the name of my parish - St Thomas More Catholic Church). If you do not follow the teachings of the Catholic Church, then you are not Catholic or "catholic" if you like.
What bishops are you referring to and what doctrines were they in disagreement?
Why the Eucharist as the topic is one of authority?
Of course they weren't infallible and they didn't have to be as they were defending existing doctrine and not defining new doctrine.
1:54 Are there squirrels or chipmunks or mouse in your garden? to the bottom right, there's 2 animals enjoying the shade of the tree
The most damning teaching and practice of Catholicism is infant baptism which gives those who were baptized a false hope and false assurance of possessing salvation
The biggest problem is hypocrisy..
No doubt, but Catholics have no monopoly on that. There are phonies and people who lead double lives in every religion and community. The inconsistency of someone's behavior with his stated creed does not prove that creed wrong. Jesus reproved the Pharisees for hypocrisy and self-righteousness but not for their belief in the inspiration of the Torah, and he defended the oral tradition on the resurrection of the body against the Sadducees. If you want to criticize individual Catholics or Catholic institutions, go ahead. But that is not the same as proving that Catholic doctrine is false.
While I agree with you, it troubles me that early Christians had a worship service very similar to the Catholic Mass today and many modern non-Catholic Christians have left those practices behind. The Catholic Church has established non-Biblical beliefs and practices over time, but most modern Christians don’t worship in the same way as early Christians.
Do you have biblical records of early believers conducting services similar to mass?
Lutheran divine service is very similar what the early Christians practiced.
@@Gigi2four Yes, celebrating the Lord’s Supper is mentioned in the New Testament. Also, lots of information about this subject in writings by the early church fathers, the Didache, and other early Christian writings. There is no doubt or debate as to the nature of early Christian worship services.
@@Gigi2four The Mass is composed of two services or liturgies, joined together. The first part is the Liturgy of the Word, composed of biblcal readings and prayer and preaching. The Jews already worshiped in synagogues with a service of the Word, and Jesus and his disciples clearly attended the synagogue. The apostles, after Jesus' resurrection, also went to the synagogues and proclaimed Christ there. When Christians were no longer able to attend the Jewish synagogue, they continued to have services of the Word. I don't know of any Christian groups that reject the reading of Scripture, prayer, or preaching.
The second part of the Mass is the Liturgy of the Eucharist. It was given by Christ to his apostles and through them to all baptized believers. It was given in the context of a Passover celebration. An early Christian Eucharist is briefly summarized and referred to in 1 Corinthians 11.23-27. So, yes, there is reference to the Eucharist there, even if the details of the ritual are not clearly specified.
From the earliest Christian writings that we have, this rite of the Eucharist was practiced by Christians. Bread and wine were brought forward. In the context of a prayer of thanksgiving (Eucharist means thanksgiving), the words of Christ over the bread and wine were spoken. These were believed to be the true Body and Blood of Christ, and these were received in communion. That is why many Protestants, such as Anglicans and Lutherans and Methodists, retain an order of service that is similar to that of the Catholic Mass, even if they do not believe all that Catholics believe about it.
Justin Martyr, who was put to death by the pagan Romans, described Christian worship around 155 AD:
"On the day we call the day of the sun, all who dwell in the city or country gather in the same place.
The memoirs of the apostles and the writings of the prophets are read, as much as time permits.
When the reader has finished, he who presides over those gathered admonishes and challenges them to imitate these beautiful things.
Then we all rise together and offer prayers* for ourselves . . .and for all others, wherever they may be, so that we may be found righteous by our life and actions, and faithful to the commandments, so as to obtain eternal salvation.
When the prayers are concluded we exchange the kiss.
Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to him who presides over the brethren.
He takes them and offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and for a considerable time he gives thanks (in Greek: eucharistian) that we have been judged worthy of these gifts.
When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: 'Amen.'
When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the "eucharisted" bread, wine and water and take them to those who are absent."
@@Gigi2four From Justin Martyr (put to death by Roman pagans), describing early Christian worship around AD 155:
"On the day we call the day of the sun, all who dwell in the city or country gather in the same place.
The memoirs of the apostles and the writings of the prophets are read, as much as time permits.
When the reader has finished, he who presides over those gathered admonishes and challenges them to imitate these beautiful things.
Then we all rise together and offer prayers* for ourselves . . .and for all others, wherever they may be, so that we may be found righteous by our life and actions, and faithful to the commandments, so as to obtain eternal salvation.
When the prayers are concluded we exchange the kiss.
Then someone brings bread and a cup of water and wine mixed together to him who presides over the brethren.
He takes them and offers praise and glory to the Father of the universe, through the name of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and for a considerable time he gives thanks (in Greek: eucharistian) that we have been judged worthy of these gifts.
When he has concluded the prayers and thanksgivings, all present give voice to an acclamation by saying: 'Amen.'
When he who presides has given thanks and the people have responded, those whom we call deacons give to those present the "eucharisted" bread, wine and water and take them to those who are absent."
1 Cor 4:6 ...'.you must not go beyond what is written". But as you rightly pointed out, the catholic church and others have become an authority unto themselves. So they are above the God breathed scriptures, another reason why they believe that God is present in their church, only as long as a priest is present. So much for God's omnipresence. Bless you Brother.
That is false. The Second Vatican Council taught in Dei Verbum (On Divine Revelation): "This teaching office is not above the word of God, but serves it, teaching only what has been handed on, listening to it devoutly, guarding it scrupulously and explaining it faithfully in accord with a divine commission and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it draws from this one deposit of faith everything which it presents for belief as divinely revealed."
While we do believe that there are certain things that only a priest has authority and ability to do in the Church (such as the consecration of the Eucharist and absolution in confession), it is a dogma of the Catholic faith that God is omnipresent and that Christ promised always to be with us. That "us" includes both the pastors and the faithful.
And even most Protestant groups, even if they don't believe in an essential difference between the pastor and the faithful, do generally reserve certain functions to the minister, as a matter of good order and training.
Any claim can be made in defence of the catholic church's doctrine, however "adherence" to sound biblical doctrine is something else, and I'm afraid the catholic church's history speaks of anything but! After studying church history for enough years, has convinced me that the "universal" church has been nothing short of barbaric in it's treatment of anyone who refused to comply with it's demands, it's pillaging of foreign countries, the despicable treatment and institutional rape of thousands of children and the complete apathy to address it, and so the list goes on. So while you may defend your church as being Christ's chosen and your pope as being God's authoritive mouthpiece on earth, I'm afraid your history says other! I know first hand, because I've been on the receiving end of it!!
IMO their biggest failing it seems is to check on their flock, to be sure they are reading the bible.
I'm sorry i have to laugh! It's their very intent that their followers don't read the Bible! In the past the catholic church burned bibles as well as ppl who tried to spread God's written Word.
@@thekingschild2116 it surely seems like that... if they did read the gospels their lives would be in ruins.
That is not true. The Second Vatican Council said this in its Constitution on Divine Revelation (Dei Verbum):
"The sacred synod also earnestly and especially urges all the Christian faithful, especially Religious, to learn by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures the "excellent knowledge of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 3:8). "For ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ." Therefore, they should gladly put themselves in touch with the sacred text itself, whether it be through the liturgy, rich in the divine word, or through devotional reading, or through instructions suitable for the purpose and other aids which, in our time, with approval and active support of the shepherds of the Church, are commendably spread everywhere. And let them remember that prayer should accompany the reading of Sacred Scripture, so that God and man may talk together; for "we speak to Him when we pray; we hear Him when we read the divine saying.""
The Trinity is a 4th century creation at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 CE.
Actually the concept of the Trinity is all throughout Scripture. This is hundreds of heads before Nicea.
Actually, the Trinity is not explicit within the New Testament. That is your renegotiation of the text. You could cite Theophilus of Antioch, Polycarp, or Ignatius, all suggested ideas of the Trinity at least 125 years after the death of Jesus Christ, but the Trinity was not an established concept in Christianity, and it was not officially accepted until the 4th century CE.
@@lionoffireraw God is not 3 but 1 as in 1x1x1=1. not 1+1+1=3!
That is not what I thought was the worst thing about the catholic church. It seems that even when they come out of that cult it is nearly impossible to get those lies out of their spirits, even after being born-again. This is not true for all who truly turn to Yeshua but many, many of them. So sad.
It's called brain-washing.
Satans the head of Catholic Church not our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ
@@thekingschild2116 Yeshua washed their feet!!!!
@@carolbowen1693 Yes. The pope would never do that.
Yes, bang on the money. The problem you will have as a result is trying to convince them that their bibles for example are corrupt. The answers are long and involved, even complicated. A person has to weigh up how much of an argument to make based on the heart of the one we are trying to bring to the truth.
On what basis do you claim that the Catholic Bible is corrupt, when it was through the Catholic Church that the Bible has been handed down to us? There were no Protestants preaching Sola Scriptura and justification by faith alone until the 16th century. And even Protestant Reformers respected the early Church Fathers and accepted the early Catholic Councils that defined the person and nature of Christ as true God and true Man.
@@user-nd8qz9ch5t You are the best example I could have hoped for to demonstrate what I was talking about! Firstly there is difference between The early Catholic church and the current Roman Catholic Church it morphed into whereby church doctrine was decided by men not scripture. Secondly, if you are not a Roman Catholic it does not mean you are Protestant. The true bible in the English Language is not the Catholic bible it is the King James Bible. It is provable as laid out in books by Gale Ripplingler, Floyd Nolan Jones and if you want the skinny on the Catholic Church books by Dave Hunt. The Catholic Bible teaches works salvation. You only have to turn on your T.V. For two minutes before consulting the book of Romans in the KJV to know you’ll never make it on your own. I also must mention the work Brenton Peterson is doing on his site Truth is Christ in verifying the KJV. What the Catholic church has handed down through the centuries is power over the people. Exclusivity of doctrine for the hierarchy. A position of “we’ll tell you what the bible says, do as we say.” You know? Nicolatians! It is still in the Catholic promotional material they put out today! A man in place of Christ? You defend that position?
I guess it depends on what Bible you read, Catholics have more books in their Bible, who are you to assume what's inspired or not, have you read the early church Fathers such as Ignatius and polycarp?
Just look what happed when people took the Bible alone as their authority. We have thousands of denominations all teaching different things. I don’t think that is what Jesus wanted. He prayed that all would be one. We are not one at this point. He cannot be happy about that.
I wonder if there is a sense in which this is true, that Christians are one. I believe the Father heard and answers Jesus prayer. Otherwise, would it be that the Father has denied this request or that Jesus was wrong in praying this?
Better than having authority to interpret the Scriptures, concentrated in one place, where when get it wrong, everyone is led into error!!
The fact is that there are so many denominations, who despite having disagreements on secondary issues, agree to the core doctrines of Christianity (divinity of Christ, virgin birth, resurrection, heaven and hell, infallibility of the Bible etc).
This actually shows how crystal clear these core doctrines are!!
And just because people have disagreements on secondary issues, this doesn’t mean that the Bible isn’t clear. It means that man can read his bias into a text, just like with any other text.
@johnsmit5999 Well, the Father denied Jesus request to let this cup pass from me. So, as any good Father he can say no, however, when Jesus prayed that we all be one, that may be His desire but we still have free will. Jesus chose 12 men and put Peter as the head to be a visible sign of Jesus on earth. That did not make him sinless, it only made him the leader. Perfectly sensible. He gave him the keys which point back to Isaiah, the person with the keys held the authority.
That's the way it was for 1500 yrs until someone decided they had a better way than Jesus. Of course after that we now have thousands of different denominations all teaching something different. That is not being of one mind like Jesus wanted.
@lionoffireraw so you don't think 7 sacraments is a core doctrine? You don't think that Communion is receiving Jesus Body and Blood is a core doctrine? You don't think the Mass is a core doctrine? St. Justin wrote to the pagan emperor Antonio's Pius around 155 explaining what Christians did during worship. It is basically the same today. I think that these things are very important.
@@kaykrause4469 I believe it is the gospel which is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes. Jesus taught the disciples that He would die for our sins, be buried and rise again the 3rd day for our justification.
This is the key for mankind to be set free from their sins and live eternal with God. Because of Christ's atonement, we can also be healed physically. This is another key that demonstrates the goodness of God towards us.
Very happy faithful Catholic here.
First, a challenge: Where in the bible, if we look at the scriptures as you say, does it say 'by grace alone, by faith alone'. It's simply not there. The only time the scriptures use 'Faith alone' is in James, where it says 'Not by faith alone'.
Just a word for all our Protestant Brothers and Sisters: have you researched the opposing view? Have you listened to what the smartest people in the Church's history have said about any of these issues of debate?
I humbly suggest, if you have not, please do so. If for no other reason than to understand what Catholics actually believe, and not what Protestant UA-camrs say we believe.
I went from atheism, to Protestantism, to Catholicism, and only there did I find true faith, and true peace, and the real Lord Jesus Christ, our Saviour.
God Bless
Ephesians 2:8-9
There are many false doctrines in the Catholic Church. It’s the result of trusting the authority of men, over the authority of the Word of God.
You spread your own doctrine. No need to touch Catholic doctrine. Everywhere non Catholic people will spread wrong doctrines. This is not Christian spirit.
Re: praying to "dead Saints".
God is not the God of the dead but of the living.
In the Bible this practice is called necromancy. We aren’t to communicate with any human who has passed on from this life!
@@lionoffireraw I know what necromancy is. It is horrible.
That is not what we are doing
I mean, we and I myself do not pray to family members, loved ones, friends etc . Who are disceast. Only those who have been canonized by the Vatican .
And when we do pray to them, we just ask them to pray for us. Just like you would a fellow church member or friend or family.
I don't expect everyone to understand or agree with this.
It is not the same .
I know you have very good teachings.
God bless you.
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@@lionoffireraw
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Mathew 19: 16-22
16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
17 “….. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
18 “Which ones?” he inquired.
Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[a] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[b]”
20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
Now tell me you prod heretic, why didn't Jesus say, "What are you talk about doing a good thing. All you have to do is believe in me"?
Works are the evidence of salvation, not the means by which we are saved. Jesus NEVER says otherwise!!
Ephesians 2:8-10.
@@lionoffireraw Should a rely on you or should I rely on Jesus?
@@lionoffireraw In the Gospels Jesus is asked a direct question. "....what GOOD THING (work) MUST I do to get eternal life? Jesus answers this direct question "keep the commandments" This a work. He also tells him to do a WORK of charity. Only prods like you can twist this and other bible passages (James 2:24) to deny the necessity (MUST DO) of works. In Ephesian, St. Paul is speaking not Jesus. Surely you know that Fathers and Modern Catholic apologists have shown that this does not exclude the necessity of GOOD WORKS. Acquaint yourself with this scholarship before you make a fool of yourself again.
You lost me at 4th century invention. Have you read early church history up until the 4th century? You are in for a big shock. I'm genuinely shocked at your lack of research. Since this video is not really in depth at all I'll just give a few blanket statements myself.
-What came first, the Church or scripture? You do realise that the Church existed before the fullness of scripture right? What does the bible say is the pillar and foundation of truth? The church (1 Tim 3:15).
-Sola Scriptura is not feasible, not all churches had access to all scriptures until the bible was canonised. Look historically at literacy rates up until today, 1 in 10 people in 1820 were literate, so what do you think the literacy rates would've been in the early church? People relied on oral tradition heavily back in the early church, which includes reading parts of scripture, because churches did not have access to the fullness of scripture until the 4th century (2 Thess 2:15).
-Popes existed way before the 4th century and are accounted for all the way back to Peter, the mentioning of the Catholic church exist way before Constantine had anything to do with allowing Christianity to be practiced.
-The bible you have today was historically canonised at the council of Rome 382AD, a CATHOLIC council. This includes the 7 deuterocanonical books which were removed after the reformation in the 19th century. Protestants never give a historical account for the canonisation of the Bible because they have to admit it came from the Catholic church.
-Read what the early church fathers had to say about the Eucharist/Lord's supper
-Read what the early church fathers had to say about Baptismal Regeneration
-Catholic teaching supports we are saved through grace and not of works. The sacraments are God's grace poured out in our life and are not so called works.
-There is nothing wrong with tradition, you're going to tell me your Protestant faith isn't based on traditions formed from the 16th century? There is a difference between Sacred Tradition and traditions of men?
I could go on but there's enough here to get you thinking, God Bless you.
Just a few points…
1. The Scriptures existed long before they were canonised, and they were considered authoritative. The RCC did not come before those manuscripts existed.!
2. There were multiple bishops in the early church, not one singular Bishop of Rome, who was in charge over everyone. The concept of the Pope did not exist in the early church.
3. The official position of the RCC is that salvation is not by faith alone.
(Council of Trent - 1545 to 1563 ⬇️
During the the sixth session, the Council issued a decree saying that, “If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.”
4. The early church fathers were not infallible. Any belief on baptismal regeneration, is something formed in the minds of fallible man, not contained in the authoritative teachings of the apostles.
5. Fourth century invention ⬇️
www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html
@@lionoffireraw thanks for your response. Former protestant here btw 😁
1. Yes of course they existed long before they were canonised, that's not the point. The point is humans needed to be guided by inspiration of the Holy Spirit as to which scriptures were inspired and which were apocrypha. Catholic's can give you the historical reference as to who, when and where the scriptures were canonised. The scriptures weren't canonised magically, the council of Rome is where that happened.
2. Yes there were, that doesn't mean there wasn't a pope. One example is Ignatius of Antioch who reference the primacy of the Bishop of Rome.
3. Good works and faith go hand-in-hand. Catholic teaching is one can choose to forfeit their salvation through mortal sin. This essentially means that if we don't co-operate with God's grace and carry the good works He has entrusted with us to do (Eph 2:10) then we are left vulnerable to grave sin because we are rejecting God. What bible verse states we are saved by faith ALONE? When the council of Trent is stating that our justification is increased, this is in terms of our sanctification. There are two terms: Initial justification (both Protestants and Catholics agree on this), and then ongoing justification which is actually very similar to what protestants define as sanctification.
In summary, it's not the works that save you - it's whether you choose to co-operate with God's grace, or reject His grace for you.
4. Well every church father believed in Baptismal Regeneration... including the two direct descendants of the apostle John which were Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp. Are you willing to accept that these two bishops got it wrong from the apostle John and for the next 1500 years until the reformation? I don't think so. Furthermore Martin Luther believed in baptismal regeneration too.
5. Gotquestions is historically inaccurate - too many protestants treat gotquestions as if it's on par with scripture. The founder is a 4 point calvinist so I'm not surprised that the article is misinformed on church history.
Having said that there is many things I agree with them on particular topics, however they are quite anti-catholic and typically misrepresent the Catholic faith.
@@lionoffireraw Of course there were many bishops in the fourth century, just as there are many bishops now. The Catholic understanding of a particular "church" (rightly ordered assembly of God's holy people) is that of a bishop with his priests and deacons and faithful. So every diocese is a Catholic "church" in that sense. From as early as we have records, the bishop of Rome had a special role in preserving the unity of these diocesan churches among themselves, without presuming to take over the actual role of being a universal bishop. Still today, the diocesan bishop is a successor of the apostles, not just the pope's branch manager. You are operating under a misunderstanding of what the papal office is.
@@lionoffireraw the website you cited is not an unbiased source.
But see here you are trying to make a video against people and you're just as guilty. I'm not a catholic. I don't know why people are coming out of the woodwork.And saying things and making videos trying to refute people when they're guilty. in the Bible.Does it say faith alone. Except that it isn't. And there's no use in saying Christ alone.Because that isn't gonna get you. First off you can point to jesus christ all day long and his blood does not cover people that are out here in sin.
Ephesians 2:8-9
@@lionoffireraw How can one get from one kingdom to the other (vv 1-7)? By the unity of grace, faith, and works (v. 9)Not that these are equal, for grace is uncreated and infinite, whereas our faith is limited and can grow; good works flow out of authentic faith. Works cannot earn us this great treasure - it i s a pure gift-but those that receive this gift do good. We are not saved by good works, but FOR good works (v 10)....something I read
Amen! But, the Trinity appears to have been created, by the Catholic Church, as well. See Acts 2:38 Acts 8:16 Acts 10:48 Acts 19:5
Wasn’t the concept of the trinity come from ancient Babylonians with nimrod, Semiramis (queen of heaven), Tammuz (sun) which is where the pagan Sun symbology comes from and is all over it, even some “Christian” church’s have a solar symbol which refers to sun worship. Sol Invictus god of the Roman Empire. They kept it but just changed it a little and told them with their made up authority that this is or people never even questioned it.
The Pope would claims to be infallible believes the following ;
1. The Pope is referred as the head of the church. Actually Jesus Christ is the head of the church. Last time I checked the Pope did not die for the church. Christ died for the church.
2. The Pope refers to himself as the Holy Father. The only Holy Father is reserved for our Father in heaven. Matthew 23:9 “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
3. The Pope is refer to as the Vicar of Christ( Christ substitute on earth). The only substitute for Christ on earth is the Holy Spirit. John 15:26-27 “I will send you the Helper from the Father. The Helper is the Spirit of truth who comes from the Father. When he comes, he will tell about me. And you will tell people about me too, because you have been with me from the beginning.
Based on the statements above, the Pope is the Godhead. He has stolen the Trinity.
This is the kind of false doctrine that comes from the Roman Catholic Church.
@@charlespoe5155 the concept of the Trinity (I know some people don’t like that word) comes from God himself. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, 3 eternally distinct persons of the One True God. They each have the same characteristics and personality, but with different functions and roles. Eternally distinct but eternally unified. In the Bible we see where They were all there during creation, when man was made in the image of God and all throughout both old and new testaments of the Bible. So any other “trinities” are counterfeits (false) and came from the original Trinity. Which came first the chicken or the egg? So I’ll ask which came first the One True God/Creator or the ancient Babylonians?
@@lewlewbelle7275 yes I agree that some don’t like that word. I personally don’t have an issue with it or it’s concept and especially the true trinity. My issue is when it’s twisted, but then again that is the Vatican the divine serpent in Latin the language of deception doing his thing and blending their doctrine that looks like they are talking about God, Jesus, Holy Spirit but they are talking about Nimrod, Mary (queen of heaven Semiramis ) Jesus (Tammuz) the sun god not the Son of God. That’s where mystery Babylon the Great that is hard to catch but is doable helps the mother Harlot full of abominations.
The Trinity is the most agreed upon doctrine of all time; it has become the acid test for whether a church is true, or whether it should be considered a cult. The term itself is coined, but the concept is Biblically sound. It is the only doctrine that has ever been found that can account for everything the scriptures say about the person of God, agree with all of them, and be refuted by none. Maybe we can get Matt to do a video on the subject one day soon.
And the greatest deception of all ... Changing the Sabbath !
@michelleschultz=exactly. No one has that authority. Heb 4:9! and if Yeshua (Joshua in English, not Jesus) had given them another day, He would've spoken of it!
The Catholic church is a "4th century invention". Shame, that's all I need to know that the video is poorly researched.
Edit: "nice click bait BTW"
Well not totally convinced. I am Catholic and I can assure you that Jesus alone is Lord. Yes we have traditions but they are more no more than that. The bottom line is that Jesus is Lord.
Do you realise you are offending Jesus the way you are talking about Mary and the "rosary nonsense" ?
Mary would be utterly humiliated, seeing how Catholics venerate her 😔 She would be cringing!!
@@lionoffireraw So, you don't care if you are offending Jesus ?
@@lionoffireraw A certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” Luke 11: 27-28
“henceforth all generations will call me blessed.” Luke 1:48
The pope is a nice guy.
Even sinners als practising LHBTQAUSIDJNGFLSIE+ are welcome in the Roman church and can continue their life in sin!
thank you for pointing out Roman Church. I know not all of them believe that.
Look at 2Corinthians 11:13-15. The Catholic church is the ultimate fulfillment of these 3 verses making it Satans counterfit of the REAL THING. A good study of Daniel, led by the Holy Spirit will reveal the Papacy as the horn that plucked up 3 by the roots and the Popes as the mouth speaking great things. In light of this your headline of "the BIGGEST problem" falls short of being truth. You said things that are correct, but overall this is the evidence that you are unqualified to judge "another mans servant". Repent and continue to study young man, that the Lord may bless you with TRUTH.
Wait till bro finds out catholic church existed before the bible
Yes. Adam was definitely a follower of the Roman Catholic Church.
The Bible is a collection of manuscripts that were in circulation from the time of the apostles. They weren’t “invented”
by the RCC in the fourth century...
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@@lionoffirerawyou have a wrong knowledge of history. After Jesus's Ascension, there were many letters and epistles written. Some were false writings and some were heretical. The Catholic Church in 3 Councils around AD 400 reviewed and filtered through these letters and epistles and settled which were authentic and true inspired letters and which were false writings. So the canon of the NT was decided by the Catholic Church at that time. There was no official OT canon at the time of Jesus. So the Catholic Church also concluded the OT canon in these 3 councils . The Church has the authority because Jesus give them in
Matt 18:18
1 Tim 3:15
Matt 28:16-20
@@KMisty1 that makes utterly no sense even as a joke.
If you were to go back to the early church, you would not find a Bible. The church came before the Bible, the Bible came together in 397 or there abouts through the authority of the Catholic Church. Even the Bible says that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth. Not the Bible. I think it is you who needs to study a little more. The Bible is a Catholic book. Jesus renamed Peter and said on this Rock I, Jesus, will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against her. Jesus said He would remain with His church till the end of time. I believe that. That means His church is kept free from teaching error when it comes to faith and morals. His church still stands today, still being guided by the Holy Spirit. We don’t trust men, we trust the Holy Spirit guiding those men just as he guided them to put the canon of the Bible together.
Couldn't it be that it was on Peter's confession of Jesus as the Christ that the church is built on?
The Scriptures existed long before they were canonised, and they were considered authoritative. The RCC did not come before those manuscripts existed.!
@johnsmit5999 I'm sorry, no. Read the text, it says nothing like that. He changed his name to Peter meaning Rock and then said and on this Rock I will build my church. Why is it so hard to believe that God could use a man to build His Church on. He is God, He knew He wouldn't be physically here and wanted someone to be the head on earth. The Holy Spirit would work through this man and the teaching authority Jesus would leave behind. If He didn't set it up there would have been chaos. Even secular institutions have a hierarchy so things run smoothly. Jesus was smart enough to know what we would need. He gave the authority to His Apostles to preach, teach, heal, turn bread into His body and wine into His blood. God can do anything He wants. He wanted to feed us with His very self. God loves us that much. That is when many walked away. Drinking blood was against their law and yet it was what Jesus said to do, not just once but several times. The Mass is being at calvary, it is the unbloody sacrifice of Jesus. Not a resacrifice but the same one only non bloody. Why? Because Jesus told the the Apostles to do what He had just done at the last supper. Turn bread and wine into His body and blood. He is God, He can do this, unfortunately Martin Luther broke that line because he was only a priest with no authority to make a priest. Only a Bishop can do that. So in other words you can only get the true body blood soul and divinity of Jesus in Communion in the Catholic Church.
@lionoffireraw I said the RCC was the one who put the Canon together. There were all kinds of scriptures out there. Many of which did not make it in the Canon of the Bible as we know it today. The church came first, then in around 393 at the council of Hippo the church put together the Canon of scripture we have today. Of course when Luther came he then removed 7 books and wanted to remove even more. Tobit Judith,
first and second maccabees. Wisdom ,Sirach, and Baruch. Those are the 7 books that he got rid of. 1Tim 3:15 the church of the living God the pillar and bulwark of truth.
Even the Bible says the church is the pillar of truth. Which church?
@@kaykrause4469 The church is the body of Christ, who have come to know Jesus personally by being born from above. They attend all kinds of different fellowships.
Consider ONLY The 'Hail Mary' !!!
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The 'first half' of the prayer "Hail Mary, full of grace, The Lord is with thee,,,"
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(A Verbatim Biblical Quote/Nothing Wrong with The Bible, Rightly Divided !)
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NOW, Consider the TWISTED 'End' of the 'Hail Mary',,,
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"Holy Mary, Mother of God, Pray for us sinners, now A-N-D; ,,, 'At the Hour of our Death'. Amen."
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Praying to 'CONCRETE' (That which CANNOT Hear or SAVE),,,upon one's 'Death Bed' ???
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This Effectively REMOVES Any 'C-H-A-N-C-E' of even a 'Death Bed' (Thief on the Cross) Salvation !!!
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NOT ONLY are Catholics NEVER 'Born Again' during their Entire Lives;
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The ENEMY has CLEVERLY Removed (Even) The CHANCE of a Genuine 'Death-Bed' Salvation !!!
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THIS is ONE Terrible, NASTY, HORRIBLE thing Satan has DONE !!!
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“But WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
‘H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S’ !!!
For you LOCK PEOPLE OUT of The Kingdom of Heaven:
For you Neither go in ‘yourselves’,
NOR do you Permit others when they try.”
~ JESUS CHRIST ~
(St Matthew 23:13/GWT)
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“GOD is the ‘Creator’;
Satan is the ‘COUNTERFEITER’.”
~ Edwin Louis Cole
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Matthew 23:13 is exactly what the Holy Spirit reminded me of the last time i walked into a catholic church with all it's idols.
Amen