That first one is a station with high-speed passing tracks in the middle, away from the platforms. And the trains also look like Siemens Velaro (known from the German ICE)
The German section is a mix of only one real high speed train, a regular intercity train and even two commuter trains, none of them filmed on high speed tracks. That is why Germany looks a little behind the others.
@Annoying_Dragons I get you. Track maintenance and upgrading has been underprioritized for decades. That is a serious problem in Germany now. In the USA the demand for investments in railway infrastructure is on a much higher level though. Real high speed operation is impossible even on most of the Northeast Corridor.
@@osasunaitor it’s not the same thing though, because you are (hopefully) too far away from the countryside to see it rushing past the window (if you do see that in a plane, be quick about finishing that drink 😬)
@@osasunaitor Yeah but being in an airport and going through tsa and shit sucks such ass. Here in poland you just kinda go to your platform, board the train and at some point show them your ticket.
I just did Madrid to Valencia return on an AVLO/AVE and it cost the equivalent of 18 dollars! The train hit 306 km/h and was so smooth, so comfortable, and so enjoyable that I think that this type of travel is just a privilege. There's no better way to get around.
Actaually going 300 km/h + isnt scary at all, it's very comfortable and quiet. FYI, the trains in Italy do not actually go 400km/h (it's their speed record), they go 300km/h when you ride them. On the other end, the TGV in France has the European speed record of 574 km/h, and you ride at 320.
Frecciarossa is technically certified for a commercial speed of 360kmh, but limited at 300 for line limits (to avoid excessive wear of the catenary and mantainance cost). The tgv record doesn't have much sense because they used a not standard wheels diameter and short composition, so it's a modified train that have "nothing" to do with the actual TGV
@@Ale55andr082 the record from 1991 was only for the ego, but in 2007, the goal for the record was the the clearly push all component ( tracks, trains, catenary, etc ) to the limit or further ( 2 days before the "record day" on a travel with media at 540 kph they had an emergency stop , they didn't imagine it would work over 500kph) and you can't touch the limit with a classic tgv designed for safety. That's why SNCF call it test train in a "test programm" (campagne de test), the record is optionnal ( they had 20 run over 570kph before the record day)
@@stephangoldenberg9163 that could have happened at 100kph too. The flaw that caused eschede is no longer present in any trains and there have been many crashes at 300 with 0 fatality's. Also driving a car on the autobahn is more dangerous
@@apotato5563 Yeah, that's not my point. These trains weigh hundreds of metric tons and are running really fast, the amount of energy is insanely high. _IF_ something happens, it's gonna be huge, that's my point.
Note for Italy: certain models of high speed trains are indeed certified for 400 km/h speed. However, current high speed lines allow a maximum commercial speed of “only” 300 km/h.
I love the freccia rossa trains. I think 300 (maybe 350) km/h is a good travel speed for bullet trais in general. The air resistance is causing an incredible increase of energy consumption even on this speeds. Driving even faster will increase the operation costs and the environmental impact irresponsibly.
@@mariokrings Not only that, but higher speeds also put tracks and electrical line under extreme stress, requiring costly maintenance and increasing failures and accidents.
@@stefano_etrusco Yeah, the powerlines were arcing to the trains pickup antenna in the first clip due to the lines moving up and down. You can also see the power lines moving in another clip from a station, same video.
They have the same problem the UK does, they insist a service like trains need to be profitable on a per route basis. Countries with decent passenger train networks typically construct and run the high speed networks at a loss, yet its for the exact opposite reason to communism because efficient mass transit increases economic productivity, quality of life and level of disposable income. Some routes will be profitable in the long run, this is just pumped back into the network as a whole which can also make the profitable routes even more so as well as create new profitable routes as the smaller routes feed passengers into the others.
I’m from Germany, but live in Spain now. Going on a high speed train is smooth, silent and very comfortable compared to airplanes. Talking about feel of it, you don’t feel the speed on a plane either, but on a train you will experience it more intense by just looking outside a window. By the way, did you know that the Eurostar goes from Paris to London, passing under the ocean? You could see this in the first Mission Impossible which ended in the tunnel under the English Channel ! Spectacular !
This movie forgets something of the utmost importance: the catenary above the train, its power supply! All these trains (Eurostar, but the others too) are powered by electricity.
@@Shamanix000 I think that the scriptwriter thought that would be cool to see Tom Cruise above a Eurostar at full speed, then the director realized that was impossible because of the catenaries and simply scrapped them to make the shot.
Spain here. You don't get the feeling that you're traveling so fast when you're on one of these trains. They're very stable, your glass of soda won't even move if you leave it on the table. You're aware of the high speed when you realize that you've arrived at your destination incredibly soon. And they're very, very cheap, you can go from Madrid to Barcelona for less than 10 euros.
Some of those smaller stations will have lower speed limit, so the trains will slow down a bit. It's for safety obviously. The first clip looked like the station had a high speed up and down line, right in the centre, with no platforms. That one will be going full blast.
To be honest, it's as relaxing as an airplane... Sitting their for 7 hours straight, with a bunch of strangers their sweaty armpits besides your nose... Unless you travel first class on the train, that's mostly empty... Still better than traveling by car tho!
@@timmy7201 At least you can walk around or sit in the restaurant car and eat a Bratwurst. On longer trips I do indeed prefer 1st class though. The surcharge is affordable.
@@timmy7201 Seats on trains are much bigger than on a plane ... so even if there is a sweaty person around ... it is much farther away AND you might even be able to open the window (on a slower train).
3:07 That train is series 102 of RENFE (National Network of Spanish Railways), the public company that until a few years ago had a monopoly on trains in Spain. The RENFE 102 series has been manufactured by TALGO (Goicoechea Oriol Light Articulated Train) (Goicoechea and Oriol are the surnames of the company's founders) a Spanish company in collaboration with BOMBARDIER, a Canadian company. It is popularly known as Pato duck in English, due to the shape of the nose. In Spain we are very fond of giving things funny nicknames. Until 2020, Amtrak operated two pendulum Talgo combinations on the Amtrak Cascades line in Washington state. You should look for information on the Talgo pendulum system and the automatic track gauge change system. This means that train passengers do not have to change trains when they reach the border with France, since Spain has its own gauge, Iberian gauge.
Spain has a very large network. They started building it in 1990, and today it moves millions of passengers and tons of cargo. Spain is a very touristic country, with 80 million visitors every year, and this is the leading domestic transportation method. It has been an incredible success, that keeps on giving. Spain produces up to 80% of its energy with wind and solar durind the daytime, which means, running this trains has become much much cheaper, and very profitable for the state. Since it's a public company, that means, they build new routes with the profits, so it's a win win situation. America is losing out on future economic oportunities of free energy carbonless mass transport.
If America wanted carbonless mass transport we would have it. America has the biggest GDP in the world and all the technology needed to do anything. So there must be a good reason that America has gone another route. Most importantly, America is the largest producer and exporter of petroleum in the world. America can have all the Natural gas or nuclear power plants it needs, your "free" energy isn't really free at all. Everything comes at a cost and will have negative considerations versus other alternatives.
German here! The most amazing thing to me when travelling aboard the ICE is that, if it runs at highest speed, you don't even notice. It's really comfortable, but it's always wise to book your seat as the trains can be overcrowded, especially on weekends or during rush hour and holiday season. But I have to confess I still prefer travelling by night train.
@@citamcicak There are 300 km/h lines in germany which are considered high speed and the line in the video is none of them thats a regular line which was equipped with LZB to allow 200 km/h on it the Orange Grey RRX does not have LZB and can only drive 160 km/h. This is considered a ABS or Ausbaustrecke which is basically a standard non high speed line upgraded for 200 or sometimes 220 km/h train travel. It is not a purposed build high speed line. ua-cam.com/video/vI1vy5kXpoI/v-deo.html Thats a proper german high speed line. Also something to note on that 300 km/h line all timetables are not build for 300 km/h but rather for something like 240 so in case of delay they can drive the full 300 km/h and get time back. Another reason is the ICE4s traveling on that line are only capable of 250 km/h. That ways its easier to integrate them into the timetable.
@@citamcicak To be honest, during my inter-rail trip in 2012: - German trains where the fastest and best organized - Italian trains where a complete disaster It's just the opposite of what I experienced!
Some years ago, with my girlfriend, we took a train to Brussels. We got there in the morning, we visited the city and in the early afternoon, we hopped on the Eurostar and after 2 hours, we were in London! We stayed for 2 days, then took the Eurostar to Paris and the next day, we went back home. We never rented a car or took a taxi. Besides using the train, we either walked or took the subway.
Visited Europe many times between 1998 and 2018 and, apart from Ireland, we never rented a car. Trains, underground systems, occasionally buses (last resort), walking (especially in large cities like London, Paris, Rome, etc) and vaporetto in Venice (my personal favourite public transport system). It made us realise how lacking is the interstate network here in Australia but then with such a huge country and such a small population, high speed rain is never going to be developed because of the cost (though Sydney to Melbourne should have been) - flying, especially for Western Australians like me, remains the only option for fast transport to other states, or even distant parts within my own state.
When you consider they deliver you directly to the city centre, and you can just walk into and out of the stations with pretty minimal delay, they just make sense.
@@evdweide That’s exactly why the Milan-Rome high-speed railway (570 km) basically “killed” the equivalent connection by plane in Italy. 3 hours from city center to city center, seriously? With a plane you’d waste 3 hours just for check-in and check-out procedures, baggage claim etc.
@@stefano_etrusco the same happened in France between Paris and Lyon and Marseille, no one takes a flight anymore since it is so much more convenient to takt the TGV high speed trains.
@@denzzlinga Exactly. Now think about what will happen when the HS line between Turin and Lyon will be finished. A train ride will take around 4.5 hours between Paris and Milan.
Trains are my favorite type of transportation, because of the convenience, speed, comfort, amount of luggage you can take along and the fact it drops you of right in the center of a city. I can travel from my house to a hotel near gare du nord within 4 hours. With a car the travel time is 6 hours non stop. Without taking into account any traffic jams. Which there are around Amsterdam, Antwerp and Paris itself. Plus parking is a nightmare in Paris as well and very expensive. So 7 hours by car is more reasonable if you take fuel, bathroom and food stops into account. Travel by plane is faster when you just take the flight time into account. About an hour. However you need to be in the airport 2 hours before departure and getting there takes at least 30-60 minutes. Then you need to get from the airport in Paris to the center. After getting through security and collecting your bags. Again the train wins. I always feel so lucky to be able to travel like this. And even did it during my visit in the USA. From NYC to Washington. You are missing out big time!
In Spain there have been pretty fast trains since the 1960's, but they were isolated models. The AVE (Alta Velocidad Española - High Speed Spain... Ave also means "bird" in spanish) as we know it today started in 1992 between Madrid and Sevilla for the Sevilla Expo 92. Right now, Spain has the fastest average overall train speed on high speed networks, and one of the largest high speed networks in the world. The lines have also been opened to the public sector so you can now get low cost trains running over many routes, not just RENFE trains. One interesting thing about a lot of the train models is they can change track gauge without stopping, going through a track change facility, where the wheels change gauge on the go and takes about a minute to do the entire train, this way being able to utilise the older wider iberian gauge tracks as well as the newer standard gauge tracks, without having to lay down new tracks all over the country or changing trains at different stations.
I've always been very impressed by Spain's train system, while not all are high speed, but there are a lot of them, my only gripe is that I wish there was more trainlines that went along the coast of Costa del sol(example; From Malaga to Alicante or Barcelona) instead of having to go to Madrid from Malaga then out to Alicante. But compared to Norway that has only one for the airport(albeit our terrain is a hellscape to build high-speed lines on) I'd say you guys are doing a great job.
@@norXmal low rail investment through decades until HST in Spain; because "desarrollismo" (developing phase in Spain under dictatorship) leaded to expand highways and airports but forgot rail until 90s with HST, since only couple of years the HST/conventional-train investments are somehow more equilibrated so it would lead to new lines, hopefully, but it take years or decades to complete just ONE!?
@@norXmal Spain has always been Madrid-centered. Take a look at road maps as well, and you'll see that. In fact, the main 6 highways (A-1 to A-6) are called the "radials". It's a problem that comes from decades ago, and never resolved. For your example, about the difficulto to get from Malaga to Alicante (or anywhere in the Mediterranean coast), there's actually a plan, "the Mediterranean Corridor", but I doubt that even my grandchildren will see ever being completed.
@@norXmal There is no need for an high speed trains. High speed train is good for long distances with few stops and the high investment means that it is used between large population areas, although it can offer infrequent service to low population places that happen to be near the rout and with enough distance from other stations. Regional and local train that have shorter distances between station and also serve smaller towns won't benefit from high speed train. As for Spain, it has the second largest high speed rail network in the world after China and the largest per capita.Most of the existing network goes through Madrid but the network is still growing and other connection are being created. One of the most important corridors is the Mediterranean corridor that is has been under construction in section for years and is nearing completion (probably at around 2027/8) and will enable direct connection from France through Catalunya along the coast of the Mediterranean up to Granada and from there to the HSr network of Andalucía.Costa del Sol is not a good place to build high speed train but there are improvement under constructions to allow better and faster high speed connections between the main cities in Andalucía. The first high speed line in Spain to Sevilla is undergoing extended renovations. Other lines that are under advance construction are the lone to Exttremadura, that will connect to Portugal, The long ti,e inder construction Y in Basque country and extension and improvements in other areas. Spain´s goal is to make the high speed lines the long distance service that will connect all major cities in every autonomous region. The least advance line is the The last ones will be La Rioja as many there do not want the high speed trains fearing construction will have negative environmental impacts on their region.
The Japanese shinkansen ("bullet train") has been operating since the 1960s and current models do around 300kph/186mph. The most impressive thing is that the shinkansen, in all that time, has NEVER had a fatal accident. And this is in a country with frequent earthquakes and typhoons. In that time the network has carried more than 10 billion passengers, greater than the population of the entire world.
There was one occasion when a bullet train hit someone hanging around close to the track. As expected, there was nothing recognisable left of him, just human remains imbedded in the nose and across the track. The driver didn’t even realise he hit anything, all he heard was a slight thump. There was another incident when a 17 year old student got his finger caught in the door and the train dragged him until he fell and was killed.
@@qasimmir7117 I knew about the second incident but do you have a source for the first? To clarify I should have said that the shinkansen has never had a fatal accident caused by a crash or derailment. There have been other deaths, for example a person who committed s***ide on the train by setting themself on fire, which killed and injured several other people. But that could have happened in any public place.
High Speed experience: TGV Paris - Bordeaux (575 km) travel time *2hr 3min* city center to city center. If you book your seat in advance it can be cheap: Wednesday 7 August, 9:11am - 11:14am, 49 euros.
The reason why the nose of the trains are so large is because that design helps to reduce sound. That helps when the trains enters a city. Eurostar have and “old” design.
Of all the high speed trains in Europe, the ones in France and Spain are probably the most satisfying to ride on, because they have a lot of long routes that are mostly high-speed. In contrast, Germany's high-speed network is more piecemeal still, with only a few long stretches of high speed, so it feels like you're slowing down quite a lot (not to mention Deutsche Bahn's terrible delays!)
The recordings in Germany were not taken on high-speed routes, but on normal routes with higher speeds. The excerpts from Spain and France, on the other hand, were on real high-speed routes, so the video did not offer a real comparison.
Only the first even sows an actual high speed train. The other ones are one slowe inter city train and the rest being only regional trains, basically the busses of trains.
FYI these somewhat weird looking extra long noses are not only for aerodynamic drag-reduction, but also important, when entering a tunnel at high speeds to keep the air in the tunnel a little more time to move and reduce the air-pressure when approaching the tunnel. That's also why these tunnel-entrances are inclined.
I'm in the UK and I think our faster trains commonly reach 125 mph, but when travelling to France, there's a stretch of motorway south of Calais where the trains run parallel to the motorway. Legal motorway speed is about 80 mph (130 kph), so it feels very odd when a train overtakes you like you're not moving.
Yes, we loved that when we were riding the high speed trains in France - it was the first indication that you're really travelling at speed when you realised the train was easily overtaking the cars on the free flowing motorways.
@@heatherharvey3129 A bit like travelling on the central mainline from London through to the Midlands, where you run parallel to the M1 for a period. Most recent times have seen the speed differential being around 100mph due to roadworks and congestion on the motorway.😀😀
@@clivewilliams3661 LOL There's a reason why buses were our "last resort" choice when we were in the UK - trains, despite the costs, for travelling out of London to places like York, etc. 😁
If I'm right, the Acela is partly based on french TGV (because Acela is a result of a consortium between Bombardier and... Alstom, the public company which makes the TGV). I don't know (and don't remember) all the details, but you can find them easily.
As a frenchman, i travel so many time since the 90's with the french TGV , Thalys & Eurostar. In 1999, i applied for a job in the French National Railways Company then i traveled 3 times with the pilot on long range at 300km/h (186m/h). Its really impressive & got one of my favorite speed souvenir.
First thing: most of the trains in the clips were going slow due to them passing through a station. There's only few stations that are build to accomodate a full speed passage for safety and environmental reasons (these trains going full tilt are LOUD and you understandably don't want that in a city). You can tell because the double decker trains are normal commuter trains that afaik top out at 160km/h (100 mph) and both kinds looked about equally fast. A real high speed train ripping by at speed would look and sound a LOT different. You may or may not be surprised to read me tell you that sitting inside the train, it's incredibly quiet and a smooth ride, you would not be able to tell that you're speeding at 200+ km/h along the country side. At least until another train passes and you feel a brief lurch as the whole train shudders from the clash of displaced air. In the smaller commuter trains, it sounds and feels like the doors are getting ripped out of the train, though thankfully we don't contract Boeing to make those for us. Secondly: Casual speed conversion math errors in the AI search results. Nice to see these things are still about as trustworthy as your next door scam artists trying to sell bridges. I'd disable that crap on your search engine before you get fed potentionally harmful misinformations.
@@robertheinrich2994 yes, it's a vague description, but the ones you listed are not regional train sets. The Duplex is a high-speed train and the IC 2000/2020 / Twindex is something that goes faster than 160 km/h, but maybe shouldn't.
@@robertheinrich2994 I didn't say all double deckers are commuter trains. I refered to the ones shown in the clip and those were the regional commuter kind of trains. Even if some models can go faster than what I'm familiar with it doesn't invalidate the point I made which was that even though they look equally fast in the clips, the actual topspeed differences between those and the actual high speed trains are significant and not illustrated in the video. I hope that clarifies my point to everyone's satisfaction.
I’ve been on several trips by train from coast to coast in both the USA and Canada. Because the US railways are virtually all freight lines and they have the priority. Passenger trains will have to wait for goods trains as they have priority. In Europe passenger trains have priority and timetables are built for that, a goods train will be held back in a siding to allow the passenger train to keep to its timetable.
I'm from Norway, and here we don't have high speed trains. I've been traveling Europe, and I have to say France stands out from the rest. The TGV is extensive, and available "everywhere". Those other countries have very nice rail networks as well, but if you're a high speed train tourist, visit France. 🚄
210 km/h is in no way a record, but it could barely pass definition of high speed, so Norway is not hopeless. Also, there are some stretches of railway that will be good for 250 km/h, should such trains arrive to Norway in the future.
While I agree with the TGV being nice, the regional train network in France is non existent. Try going from Biarritz to Geneva, you'd have to go all the way up to Paris because there is nothing in between. Many towns aren't even connected.
@@xanukraine All new railway sections in Norway are approved for 250 km/h. All trains are new in Norway except for some local trains that will arrive in 2025/26 and the new long-distance trains for both day and night lines. The first will appear in 2025. The last will be able to drive at 250 km/h. The new trains at Oslo Gardermoen from CAF can run at 250 km/h - but there the speed is 220 km/h
The comment is not right. The only city where you have various high speed destination's from is Paris. The rest of the country is like everything in France fare away from such good service. Go to Google and see how you get from Bordeaux to Lyon (two mayor frech cities) to prove what I'm saying. My opinion is, that Spain has currently the best European high speed network. Italy and Germany aren't complete with their roll-out yet, but especially Germany is connecting the whole country far better.
High-speed rail requires flat, straight tracks, and Norway's geography could be described as a half-drowned mountain range (apart from the Southern parts). That really puts a hard block on building this kind of infrastructure.
Many of the trains also have speed gauges in the passenger spaces. It's a cool feeling seeing "300 km/h" on a display^^ Also these trains run really smooth too.
The standard commercial speed for high speed rail is around 320km/h, that's north of 200mph. Here in France, we've had them since Paris to Lyon opened in 1983. The train ride used to be four hours (it takes five hours by car). The TGV (High Speed Train) gets you there in two hours, centre to centre. Paris to Marseille takes nearly eight hours by car if you don't stop at all. The TGV gets you there in three hours and twenty minutes. These trains are absolutely fabulous. The world record for a train on tracks (not on magnetic levitation) was reached by the French TGV on April 3rd, 2007 when it reached 574,8 km/h (that's 357 mph).
From Spain here, I live in alicante and my family is in Madrid so I use the hight speed train with some regularity and I can tell you it smoother than any ccar and even smother than lower speed trains. I have also seen doumentaries about the train network in Europe and USA and desspite still thinking you guys desperatly need them,as I have traveled all over Europe and understand the true scale o an eficient and worth while train network is a lot more thatn just one 10 line hightway, and a lot of people would have to agree to invest a lot of money. I still think you need it, but good luck selling that is todays politics.
I've taken 100's times (if not more) the french TGV, and always been amazed when they cross a station at high speed : you really feel their power, much more than once inside, where you have to look outside to know it's going fast.
The best part in AVE is that you did not even realize moovement and speed. It looks like you are still in a place while your're at 310kph (190 mph aprox)
I just stumbled on your videos through some YT suggestions (the first one being the one where you watched the German police car review). And I have to say, I love how you use good reasoning and are very reflected with your comments. This is kind of refreshing, make the videos pleasant to watch.
Best way to describe the feeling whilst at top speed is to imagine sitting in a bottle that slightly rolls as it speeds along the track, curves are felt around your hip as the upper body sways with the curved tracks and feels like gravity plays tricks..cars adjacent to the train on the highway seem to go real real slow😊
My partner as an app that keeps track of all her family . She showed my it one day the eldest grandson who's just passed his motorbike test was recorded at 125 mph. I told her to ring him up and tell him not to be so stupid. Turns out he was on a train
The Acela is a high speed train riding on conventional tracks for the most part. That's why it can't reach it's top speed for the vast majority of the route. The US could easely order high speed trains but if you don't have dedicated high speed lines that aren't shared with non-high speed trains, then you can't run your high speed trains at the speeds they're designed for. You've reacted to a bunch of trains passing through stations, but at these stations the trains are required to slow down for safety reasons. The 1st german train you reacted to was the high speed train, the other german trains you saw were actually regular trains
From the comments we see that some people don't know the rail speed record. The record is 574.8 km/h (159.7 m/s) set by a modified TGV Euroduplex. It was attained on the LGV Est, at PK 193.2 , near the commune de Éclaires (Marne). The train was named V150 because they were aiming a record speed of 150 m/s (540 km/h), that was surpassed. The specially prepared train was upgraded to 19.6 MW and the tension on the overhead power line was increased to 31 kV. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_du_monde_de_vitesse_sur_rail_en_France
We don't have high speed rail for numerous reasons... 1) We have an amazing interstate highway system. 2) Part of American freedom is the ability of citizens to move anywhere in the Country on a moments notice. Low income people can travel anywhere in their cars. 3) Our Amtrak has to be subsidized due to lack of passengers willing to pay the true cost of their tickets. 4) Taxpayers are not going to shell out trillions of dollars to fund something few people are going to use. If we want to go really fast we buy an airline ticket. 5) Euro countries have made personal car ownership and operation very expensive. They have made rail travel artificially attractive.
I'm a train mechanic for central Paris, if you loves trains, you should look up to the french TGV system and history, i don't know if theres a good video about it. Have a good day Wrocker !!
the TGV is commercially limited to 320km/ph, but it's record is insane : 574.8 kmh / 357.16 mph check the sound when it's passing... ;) ua-cam.com/video/gpeivd9zp90/v-deo.html
The _Acela_ high speed trains connecting Boston and Washington are the same used for the TGV service in France. The trains which will be deployed in California will be from Siemens, the same used for the ICE service in Germany and the AVE in Spain.
If you want a cool look into one of the oldest high speed trains in europe, and the first to break 300 km/h, the channel Mustard made a really cool documentary about the TGV "Why french trains are the fastest" Another one i could recommend, is the absolute speed record on rails of 574.8 km/h, from the same train, that video is crazy to watch, and i dont think ill ever get bored of it
Ther is also a highspeed train from Brightline in Florida, between Miami and Orlando and highspeed reail is al build in Califotnia with also a track to Las Vegas and they are also planning something in Texas.
Since this is near a train station and near residential buildings with comparatively little sound insulation the train probably does not exceed 75 mp/h (120 km/h), maybe at max 87 mp/h (140 km/h). Any more would be dangerous.
@@manub.3847 This only applies to road transport, not to rail transport. At the German recording location with the ICE and IC, the speed limit is between 140 and 160 km/h on the tracks on the platform and 200 km/h on the other two tracks.
@@avmz111 Of course there are noise protection guidlines for trains in cities and near residential buildings, this is Germany. No train there would be faster than 140 km/h. Have you ever been on a platform where trains pass thru at 140 km/h? This is definetly not one of them, it would suck you of the platform if you where accidentally to close to the track.
The Eurostar has a specific sound as it is designed to go in the channel tunnel between UK & France and has better slip streaming than regular TGV. To avoid having too much air pressure....
Germany has much less high speed tracks compared to France for example. The line Paris Marseille has almost entirely dedicated high speed tracks, the train covers 800 km in 3 hours.
High speed trains were a game-changer in the transport world. More than 40 years ago I used to travel from Vitoria to Cordoba, in Spain, (aprox. 800 km). The best option at the time, not having a car, was the Express Star "Estrella Picasso", which travelled overnight and took about 12 hours to arrive. When I eventually got a car, it still took me more than 9 hours to do the trip. Now, with the combination Alvia-AVE, it's just about 6 hours, and the comfort is well worth the extra cost.
remember traveling in Spain from Malaga to cordoba by train in 2006 and when we returned 2 years later the time it took was halved due to completion of the high speed Ave lines, wonderful trains and the service is amazing. Also travelled on eurostar from London to Paris, then Paris to Vanne the French rail system is also impressive. When I was a child my father worked for the british railways and as his family we got free train travel in the UK so my love of trains started early
The thing that gives you a true impression of how fast these trains go is if you find a cabview video. Looking as far into the distance as you can and realising that it'll only take you 10 seconds to reach the limit of your distance vision.
This! Or even the passenger view, especially if you get to cmpare the speed and ease at which people in the train move around to all the blur behind the window.
For Ian: German railway has kind of a colour coding to indicate the type and speed-bracket a train is operating in White with red stripe is usually the fastest: ICE and InterCity Red with white stripes is DB Regio service other colour schemes "private-ish" competitors to DB, running any service speed apart from the ICE/InterCity
They only filmed 1 ICE train in Germany. The other trains were regional or just IC, and to add to that the zones that they were filmed in weren't allowing the trains to move at full speed.
I use TGV's in France (which translates to "High Speed Train") once every two months, and I can say that even if it's going 300+ km/h, it's really comfortable! Obviously you see on the outside that you're going fast, but you don't really feel it. The TGV can connect the two biggest French cities, Paris and Marseille, in 3h20, when it would take 7h30 by car. Really cool!
The first AVE (literaly translated Spanish high speed but in Spanish "ave" means bird) was put on tracks in April 1992 and conected Madrid with Sevilla. You can see the outline of a bird on the train's logo. All trains slow their speed at tunnels and stations for safety reasons. The video would be more realistic if they recorded the trains at the open. I prefer traveling with trains... They are way more comfortable than planes because you can go to the bar, walk around, they have bigger bathrooms, have leg room and you can travel with more lugage than the plane and always get you at the city centre. For me it's a plus when I arrive at the middle of the city. This year I traveled between Barcelona to Málaga with AVE trains. In 5 and a half hours I was at Málaga city centre (1150 km aprox. from Barcelona) with a change of high speed trains in Madrid (I had 30 minuts to change trains). If I traveled by plane it was only an hour less than traveling by train because you have to arrive a pair of hours before the flight time at the airport and when you arrive at the destination airport you have to take another transport (bus, train, taxi) to the city centre. If you make numbers you use nearly the same amount of time to travel between those two cities and trains are more relaxing for me than planes. The Swiss train seemed a normal commute train because it was double decked and usually high speed trains are single decked to have lower gravitatorial centre and make them more stable to be able to reach 300 km/h but I'm not an expert on trains, I can be lying ☹. Here in Spain the double decked trains are used to commute and if you go on the upper deck you can feel more the movement of the train than in the lower one. On high speed trains around Europe the movement is minimal and you don't feel the speed. Euromed and Talgo (other Spanish trains) connect cities in Spain and their maximum speed is around 200 km/h. We have too slower trains (Intercity) that have speeds around 160 km/h and our commute trains reach a120 km/h maximum when they decided to be on time 🙄 or not broken down with a technical issue. The video didn't show Italian Freccia Rossa (Red arrow) trains but they are really comfortable and the hostess are lovely (and fashionable 🤣, I love their uniforms).
These are RENFE class 103s and that's literally the export version of the German ICE 3 (Class 403/406/407/408) for Spain, there are even more variants of that Siemens Velaro family, for Russia (where it's called "Sapsan" - Peregrine falcon, the fastest of all birds), China (CRH3), Turkey and also France/Britain (Eurostar 320, before they were delivered, they also drove with ICE 3 class 406 (which can run 4 different voltages - 1.5kV DC, 3kV DC, 15kV/16.7Hz AC and 25kV/50Hz AC) sets to London). Yes, the older TGV trainsets were single deckers, but the newer ones are the double-decked TGV Duplex, some branded as "Ouigo" (which seems to be their budget lineup). Some say these feel a little cramped, I can't tell, I haven't traveled with a TGV yet, but often with regional trains here in Germany and a lot of them are double-decked these days (like these at minute 6, it's a Siemens Desiro HC (=High Capacity) electric multiple unit).
@@szymex22 I didn't know the ICE Metropolitan, so in that case I didn't recognize it. It looked quite interesting in the video: pulled by a red locomotive that doesn't look like ICE at all, but the rear end looks like the end of an ICE.
You should look at 'Why the us has no high speed rail' by CNBC or 'The US High Speed Rail explained' by RMTransit if you want to learn more about how HST's currently are in america
what i remember from those videos (because it was most shocking to me) was that they have a relatively good high top speed, but (as was already said in this video) only for some short parts of the entire routes, and that their average speed for passengers then is only in the 70s instead of 150-250, because freight trains have priority (tracks mostly are owned by the freight train companies), making the passenger trains slow down or stop completely to be overtaken by the freight trains, and only being allowed to use "gaps between freight trains". but for the real info and real data, watch the videos that that fella suggested.
9:44 indeed, riding these trains is an experience! Especially if you're covering a lot a of varied landscapes. Zooming past a mountain from the wagon-bar is certainly a good intro to a week of skiing
I've traveled in the French TGV a couple of times, and to me the speed was incredible. Passing a train going in the other direction (I bet they slowed down for it) produced quite a wham-sound, despite the specialized windows. What I noticed was the specialized tracks, and the noise absorbing earth banks on most of the distance. Not a lot of scenery to see, but one gets to the destination at least as fast as a short flight (which includes all the time at the airport and getting from there to the city center).
When you are in the TGV (Train Grande Vitesse (=High Speed Train), in France), you almost don't feel the speed. It's very smooth, you can move in the train like nothing to reach the "bar train" and buy a drink (very expensive lol), it's pretty cool! The TGV can go faster, but for safety, there is some limits. (320 km/h, when the record is 574,8 km/h, and the train could travels between 400 and 500km/h without any problem. But even at 320 km/h, because France is a pretty small country (especially compare with the USA), this speed is enough, and you can reach almost every big cities in France in 2 or 3 hours from Paris with this train! And as you say, it's so much easier to take the train rather than the plane (and, not always, but can be cheaper), so even if it's not as fast as a plane, it's more convenient for a lot of people.
The length of the Chinese high-speed railway is over 40,000 kilometers (2022), Beijing-Guangzhou, Beijing-Wuhan, on which trains reach speeds of up to 350 kilometers per hour, The record for the highest operational speed of a passenger train of 431 kilometers per hour (268 mph)
but they losing money like no tomorrow, last time they 9 trillion in red, and from people who lived there most Chinese cannot afford to use them and use slower cheaper train instead and safety that is very questionable as they have a lot issues
@@rodsparks4980 bet i dose to those who taxed for it when over billion people cannot afford to use it. 70% of Chinese are in poverty that was a study from Chinese universality what government tried to hide and swipe it from internet, if i was one those 70% and knowing i was funding a railway what i cannot afford to use and it losing trillions id be pi**ed. and the safety of them very questionable they had issues the stuff what manged to get through the Chinese firewall id a drop in the bucket
In France the speed of the train depends on the capacity of the line. (bends, ascents, descents, tunnels, strength of the rail, electrical capacity of the catenary) The maximum nominal speed authorized for trains corresponds to the fastest speed authorized for the fastest trains. This division is informed by a numerical value having the unit kilometer/hour, a value included in a range from 5 to 350. the existing lines types are: 1 - 100 km/h 101 - 120 km/h 121 - 140 km/h 141 - 160 km/h 161 - 200 km/h 201 - 220 km/h 220 - 350 km/h The world record for commercial trains on RAIL has been held in France since 2007 at 574.8 km/h, but the maximum authorized is 350 km/h...safety first! At the station, speed is limited to avoid the blast effect. You will always hear at the station when a passing train approaches: "For your safety, please move away from the edge of the platform."
This is what we do for fun in Europe, it beats driving for endless hours. They have cafes and bars on board! London to Paris in just over 2 hrs = super cool!! 🙋♀️🇬🇧🥳
The Germany section's grey-orange trains were Siemens Desiro [or Mireo?] HC trains, which are regular regional units, not highspeed. The white single deck trains with a red stripe are the ICEs, which are the highspeed ones that go about 200-300km/h - not to be confused with the similar-looking, but not self-propelled IC units. IC = InterCity ICE = InterCity Express
Swiss dude here, that train was not highspeed. It's a normal train used between "big" cities. We don't really have true highspeed rail here since the tracks are limited to 200km/h, but we do have a few high speed trains that connect Swiss cities to other countries. Like the TGV Lyria for exemple
I was on a local train service Norwich to London in 1988 talking to American couple. I apologised for how bad the trains were. I was amazed when they told me it was so much better than the US. 😱
Took the Eurostar/TGV from London to Geneva via Paris. Fantastic experience. They are incredibly cool. Looking forward to taking the Shinkansen in Japan later this year
I used to take the TGV (France) often back then. Your ears actually ring when on board. Just like on a plane. The Eurostar connects Paris to London. The trip last about 2 hours and it goes underwater. The ticket price is pretty cheap (45€).
The big difference is that railways are nationalised (government enterprises) in Europe, whereas in the US they are private commercial companies. The cost of the infrastructure for high-speed rail lines comes from the European governments, we are talking $billions to lay down the track beds and to grade the landscapes to accept the routes. All are electric motive power too, so there is the cost of building and maintaining all of that overhead cabling and power supplies. The US could easily afford to do it, but your political system would seem to be the obstacle. With each state having its own transportation system and funding, there is not the nationwide unity that high-speed rail requires.
Je pense que le problème du réseau ferré américain est que le lobby du pétrole et de l'aviation commerciale écrase toute possibilité pour une compagnie ferroviaire de pouvoir investir et moderniser le réseau!
@@marc9080 California wanted to build one but then a megalomaniac named Musk came along with some vaporware called 'Hyperloop' and effectively sabotaged it.
Nope European railways are private companies, but usually owned by the state. The track companies are separate from the passenger train operators. While the construction of high speed rail is financed by the countries, the operators compete with each other (usually including the national one), helping bring prices down and offer multiple types of services. To accomplish this they buy track access from the national track company.
I took a regular Amtrak train once from Washington to New York, during a vacation where I wanted to visit both cities. It was not a bad experience at all, it was fun, clean and efficient. You guys should have a lot more of that all over the USA.
The issue you will have in the US is that due to the lack of local public transport and your zoning laws, if you are not careful you'll end up with train stations in the middle of nowhere where you end up stuck and need to hire a car, which rather defeats the point.
Liegt halt auch an der Siedlungsstruktur, insbesondere im Westen, wo sich die Großstädte dicht aneinanderreihen. Ist ganz anders als zB Frankreich, wo die großen Metropolregionen bis auf Paris Randlage haben.
Soweit ich weiß, hat man in Frankreich schon sehr viel früher getrennte Strecken für Güterverkehr und Schnellverkehr gebaut, d.h. schon in der Dampflokära. Bis Anfang der 1980er Jahre sind bei uns lediglich Strecken für höhere Geschwindigkeiten ertüchtigt worden, die jedoch für alle Arten von Transport vorgesehen waren. So hat man beispielsweise 1965 die Strecke München-Augsburg speziell dafür ausgebaut, mit den Vorserien-Loks der Baureihe E 03 ( spätere BR 103; die rasenden Eier) Geschwindigkeiten von 200 km/h und mehr fahren zu können. Erst mit den BR 120 Loks und den ICE 1 Zügen kamen bei uns Systeme auf die Schiene, die für Fahrten mit dauerhaft hohen Geschwindigkeiten über 200 km/h ausgelegt waren, weshalb dann auch die Neubaustrecken Würzburg-Hannover und Stuttgart-Mannheim gebaut wurden.
@@to_loww ein weiterer Unterschied liegt in der Landschaftsform und dem Umgang damit. Ich kann mich noch daran erinnern, dass man sich in Frankreich nicht überall auf die TGV-Strecken gefreut hat, weil an einigen Stellen sehr tiefe und weite Einschnitte in die Landschaft vorgenommen wurden. Auf der Strecke Würzburg-Hannover wurden viele Tunnel und Brücken eingeplant, wofür sowohl die Tunnel als auch die Züge für entsprechend hohe Drücke und Druckveränderungen ausgelegt werden mussten.
I took rides on various Frecciarossa, TGV, AVE and Swiss high speed trains as the Giruno and they are all awesome. Here in Europe we have pretty cool high speed trains, but also commuter, intercity and night trains are pretty awesome. Railway network in Europe is nice, we like to complain about delays and other problems of the railway system, but it’s great to have it. I work on freight trains in Italy since 2018 and before it I have been spotting trains all around western Europe for a long time. Talking about freight trains, USA may seem ahead, but in reality we have pretty nice electric locomotives hauling freight trains. Of course, our freight trains are not as long and heavy as US ones, we are obviously limited by an infrastructure that was designed in most cases almost 200 years ago, and we see how passenger trains have priority over freight, and also another thing that limits us a lot is not using an automatic coupler on freight trains. Speaking of high speed, they started to gain big popularity all around western Europe around late 90s-mid 2000s. It’s true that France started earlier, but Spain and Italy have pretty nice high speed systems too. Germany took a different approach, they have not a lot of high speed lines, but they upgraded some conventional lines to reach higher speeds, and it’s a brilliant idea. 230km/h may not be high speed as it starts conventionally at speeds from 250km/h, but it’s decent and in my opinion more cost effective, as the same infrastructure can be used also by slower regional/intercity or even freight trains when there are no high speed trains.
Cant talk about high speed trains without mentioning Japan, I know its European trains but Japan is building maglev train track that will run trains at 500kmph and cut travel time off of their Shinkansen trains who run at 320kmph.
First clips from Spain are AVE (Alta Velocidad Española- Spanish High Speed), managed by Renfe ( Red Nacional de Ferrocarriles Españoles), a state owned company, the main but not the only that run high speed trains in Spain. The first high speed train in Spain made the route Madrid-Sevilla a long time ago, in 1992.
I don't mean to sound all social worker but I think it goes to the heart of how divided America is that connecting up by train is way too much work for the US.
when watching old western movies, there almost always are trains, either shown as the stations where the heroes and villains enter or leave the town (have a look at the beginning of "once upon a time in the west", or classics like "high noon"), or even where the train plays a central role in connecting the east and the west of the usa to unite all the states, showing races between companies who can finish the connection first. thus one might assume that the usa nowadays could/would have a good train network all over the country, and they might really have that today if they would have continued working on it, instead of starting and improving road connections to a degree that there now are highways with dozens of lanes instead of much narrower and faster train routes, and having caused destruction of old city centers in favor of those highways and parking lots. undoing all of this and building a completely different infrastructure would not only be difficult (constructionwise) and costly, but also require a complete change in habits and preferences over many decades (including eg zoning laws, local transit, personal goals changing away from "having ones own house in suburbs", etc). having only highspeed trains with no infrastructure to get people to and from the stations of that network (except as, once again, by car) probably would not be effective and make no sense. the european high speed train networks can only work together with lots of regional train connections (and other public transport) around the big highspeed stations. and i also see that as a problem over here when companies do only the calculations of "too few passengers on a specific small line" to cause that small line being dismantled and then wondering why people don't use the wonderful good and fast trains. of course people will keep driving when they first had to use cars to get to the stations, and also need cars at their destinations.
@@Anson_AKB You made a very good point. I agree with you that it seems that USA already chose its "system" and it's based only on cars, and it would be now almost impossible to change. It must have been done in the 50's.
You mentioned about wishing to have high speed trains connecting Los Angeles to Phoenix, etc. In fact Brightline (who run the Florida Miami-Orlando service) are planning to build a high speed line go to from LA to Las Vegas as branch line of the California High Speed Rail network which is already under construction to connect LA to San Francisco. Brightline East (as the Florida service is also know) is also planned to be extended to Tampa (and beyond). There is also a high speed line under construction in Texas between Houston and Dallas based in the Japanese Shinkansen technology, known as Texas central rail. I don't see high speed rail ever serving right across the US due to the massive distances, however high speed rail is extremely competitive with air travel for distances of up to about 500 miles (France is in fact in the process of banning all domestic air travel routes due to the convenience offered by the TGV service). PS. Most of the slower German trains might not be the main high speed (ICE - Inter City Express) units from what I could tell. The ICE trains normally are white with a red line down the length of the train below the windows. Even domestic UK train services which travel on lines dating from the 19th century reach 125mph for significant distances (these have been upgraded since then, however the high speed trains still need to share these lines with much slower goods trains). There are a number of quite awesome videos of these trains flying by level crossings at 125mph (and this is SLOW by European standards). I have also had to stop at a level crossing waiting for a train on the East Coast Main Line to go whizzing by and then hoping that the booms will go up just to have another train go whizzing by in the opposite direction. HS2 (which is STILL struggling to get going, if it ever does) promises even higher speed domestic services for the UK. As a further footnote, the Eurostar is a train service which goes through a tunnel underneath the English Channel (known colloquially as the Chunnel) between London, UK and and the rest of Europe - this is also referred to as HS1 in the UK although this only really stops at St. Pancras station in London on the UK side. Another PS : The French hold the world speed record for a train on steel tracks of 574,4km/h (357mph) achieved by an electric powered TGV train. The UK holds the speed record for steam trains (a A4 Pacific locomotive named "Mallard achieved ±202km/h - 126mph) as well as diesel powered trains (an HST train set achieved a speed of 238km/h - 148mph).
Not all trains can reach a speed of 186 mph. That's only the ICE 3. ICE 1 & 2 has a top speed of 174 mph, ICE 4 has a top speed of approximately 160 mph. Also, the speed of 186 mph can only be driven on the route between Frankfurt/Main and Cologne.
even 160 km/h (100 mph) can be considered to be "high speed" when compared to american trains that can go as fast or faster on very short parts of tracks (as was mentioned in this video), but the overall average of even those fast passenger trains then is only in the 70s because of shared tracks with freight trains that have priority. real high speed trains need to get passengers to their stations somehow, and without an overall pretty good train network (or other public transport), a few high speed trains won't have much use and effect.
And so as Info the first generation of ICE was taken in service in 1989. The france TGV was taken into service in 1981. But most countrys in europe, had trains with speeds with other 200 kph since the 70s?
Belgian "ordinary" trains are usually capable of reaching 160 km/h, problem is our trajectories are too short to get to that speed or keep it for a long time.
The fastest train in Europe is the French TGV with a top speed of 574.8 km/h (357.2 Mph) and it was designed for speed. But if you want to see something impressive, you can look up at the Indian Railways with the Gatimaan express for example. This is the kind of train that is used in Europe for secondary railway systems and for safety reasons they don't go faster than 125 mph, although in India they don't seem to have any safety measures, so it's really mind-blowing to watch.
Haha the German ones were not even high-speed trains except for one (first one). That one was the first model from the 80s & 90s. It's called ICE ( I.C.E., not "ice", for Intercity Express). They have a lot more newer ones. They go up to 330kmh/205mph. The 2nd train was an IC (InterCity) and they go about 200kmh/125mph. The other ones were just regular commuter trains which go about 160kmh/100mph top speed. Check out ICE videos with the newer versions where they go full beans. :)
Funny how you react!! 😆In Italy we have 3 different types of trains (I think all Europe countries has the same), Regionals up to 160 km/h, Intercities up to 200 Km/h and AVs up to 300 Km/h. First two runs on conventional tracks, and the last on special and separated tracks. And yes, it's awesome viewing these trains pass by...
these trains must be filmed on the open track, not at stations where the speed is reduced for safety reasons.
My thoughts!
Was gonna say the same. I think the limit through the platform is about 120kph (may be wrong on that, been a while since playing train sim).
absolutely.. on open track the ice3 also goes 320km/h ... while passing train stations the y HAVE TO slow down, even if they are on seperate tracks...
@@vophatechnicus Injuries at 120 km/h is peanuts, BUT AT 320 KM/H... oh oh!
That first one is a station with high-speed passing tracks in the middle, away from the platforms. And the trains also look like Siemens Velaro (known from the German ICE)
The German section is a mix of only one real high speed train, a regular intercity train and even two commuter trains, none of them filmed on high speed tracks. That is why Germany looks a little behind the others.
And the ICE likely also was slowed due to passing a station and (highly likely) not on a dedicated high speed track
Well at least the trains showed up at all which in Germany is a 50/50 chance.
@Annoying_Dragons I get you. Track maintenance and upgrading has been underprioritized for decades. That is a serious problem in Germany now. In the USA the demand for investments in railway infrastructure is on a much higher level though. Real high speed operation is impossible even on most of the Northeast Corridor.
@@mstarOnYT also it was an ICE 1 or 2 (cant tell them apart) who are the slowest of the ICE's
@@Annoying_Dragons What do you expect for a ticket for 49€ a month for every train except the ICE?
You should look up an OLD clip of a TGV setting an outright World Record . About 500 and something km/h from memory .
574,8 km/h or 357 mph ua-cam.com/video/EOdATLzRGHc/v-deo.html&ab_channel=S%C3%A1ndorCsaba
TGV at 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph).
it was 600kmh if i remember correctly. saw this clip yrs before. greets from germany
Correct. According to google the Train Land Speed record is still 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph) set in 2007.
574,8 km/h in 2007 with TGV duplex 😉🇫🇷
Standing in the bar, sipping a glass of beer or wine as the countryside moves past the window at 200 mph is peak civilization.
Well, you could say the same or even better about standing in a Boeing 747 or Airbus 380 bar
@@osasunaitor it’s not the same thing though, because you are (hopefully) too far away from the countryside to see it rushing past the window (if you do see that in a plane, be quick about finishing that drink 😬)
@@fetzie23 "if you do see that in a plane, be quick about finishing that drink" Why bother? At that point, chill and enjoy your last seconds. :D
Is it faster drinking a pint at 200mph or a 0.5l at 300kmh?
@@osasunaitor Yeah but being in an airport and going through tsa and shit sucks such ass. Here in poland you just kinda go to your platform, board the train and at some point show them your ticket.
I just did Madrid to Valencia return on an AVLO/AVE and it cost the equivalent of 18 dollars! The train hit 306 km/h and was so smooth, so comfortable, and so enjoyable that I think that this type of travel is just a privilege. There's no better way to get around.
Actaually going 300 km/h + isnt scary at all, it's very comfortable and quiet. FYI, the trains in Italy do not actually go 400km/h (it's their speed record), they go 300km/h when you ride them. On the other end, the TGV in France has the European speed record of 574 km/h, and you ride at 320.
Frecciarossa is technically certified for a commercial speed of 360kmh, but limited at 300 for line limits (to avoid excessive wear of the catenary and mantainance cost). The tgv record doesn't have much sense because they used a not standard wheels diameter and short composition, so it's a modified train that have "nothing" to do with the actual TGV
@@Ale55andr082 the record from 1991 was only for the ego, but in 2007, the goal for the record was the the clearly push all component ( tracks, trains, catenary, etc ) to the limit or further ( 2 days before the "record day" on a travel with media at 540 kph they had an emergency stop , they didn't imagine it would work over 500kph) and you can't touch the limit with a classic tgv designed for safety. That's why SNCF call it test train in a "test programm" (campagne de test), the record is optionnal ( they had 20 run over 570kph before the record day)
It IS scary! Look for Eschede accident, this was "only" 200km/h. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschede_train_disaster
@@stephangoldenberg9163 that could have happened at 100kph too.
The flaw that caused eschede is no longer present in any trains and there have been many crashes at 300 with 0 fatality's.
Also driving a car on the autobahn is more dangerous
@@apotato5563 Yeah, that's not my point. These trains weigh hundreds of metric tons and are running really fast, the amount of energy is insanely high. _IF_ something happens, it's gonna be huge, that's my point.
Note for Italy: certain models of high speed trains are indeed certified for 400 km/h speed. However, current high speed lines allow a maximum commercial speed of “only” 300 km/h.
This is AI, not even able to consistently convert kph into mph, what did you expect? 🤣
I love the freccia rossa trains. I think 300 (maybe 350) km/h is a good travel speed for bullet trais in general. The air resistance is causing an incredible increase of energy consumption even on this speeds. Driving even faster will increase the operation costs and the environmental impact irresponsibly.
@@mariokrings Not only that, but higher speeds also put tracks and electrical line under extreme stress, requiring costly maintenance and increasing failures and accidents.
Actually, I think only the Frecciarossa1000 may in future be certified for 360 km/h (that's its designed speed).
@@stefano_etrusco Yeah, the powerlines were arcing to the trains pickup antenna in the first clip due to the lines moving up and down. You can also see the power lines moving in another clip from a station, same video.
Only Americans think trains are "communist" lol
communist - commuters... all the same ^^
They have the same problem the UK does, they insist a service like trains need to be profitable on a per route basis. Countries with decent passenger train networks typically construct and run the high speed networks at a loss, yet its for the exact opposite reason to communism because efficient mass transit increases economic productivity, quality of life and level of disposable income. Some routes will be profitable in the long run, this is just pumped back into the network as a whole which can also make the profitable routes even more so as well as create new profitable routes as the smaller routes feed passengers into the others.
@@Tuberuser187 "They have the same problem the UK does" - neoliberal thieves and parasites
@@Tuberuser187 Germany unfortunately does the same, which is why the DB is in a terrible state now. Privatization really was a shitty idea...
The car production lobby is good at making anything a communist thing if it is a threat to the US dependance on cars
I’m from Germany, but live in Spain now. Going on a high speed train is smooth, silent and very comfortable compared to airplanes. Talking about feel of it, you don’t feel the speed on a plane either, but on a train you will experience it more intense by just looking outside a window.
By the way, did you know that the Eurostar goes from Paris to London, passing under the ocean?
You could see this in the first Mission Impossible which ended in the tunnel under the English Channel ! Spectacular !
Not under the ocean but under the Channel
This movie forgets something of the utmost importance: the catenary above the train, its power supply! All these trains (Eurostar, but the others too) are powered by electricity.
@@Shamanix000 I think that the scriptwriter thought that would be cool to see Tom Cruise above a Eurostar at full speed, then the director realized that was impossible because of the catenaries and simply scrapped them to make the shot.
Eurostar passes under a channel, it's very shallow
Spain here. You don't get the feeling that you're traveling so fast when you're on one of these trains. They're very stable, your glass of soda won't even move if you leave it on the table. You're aware of the high speed when you realize that you've arrived at your destination incredibly soon. And they're very, very cheap, you can go from Madrid to Barcelona for less than 10 euros.
Some of those smaller stations will have lower speed limit, so the trains will slow down a bit. It's for safety obviously.
The first clip looked like the station had a high speed up and down line, right in the centre, with no platforms. That one will be going full blast.
They'll probably never go full speed through a station, that's way too dangerous and also loud.
@@thomasfranz6467 Some stations are designed for trains to pass at full speed
@@jekanyika watch a shinkansen fly by in Japan. possibly north of 300km/h past the platform
@@Xantec Shinkansen doesn't have legacy stations. The high speed network was designed from scratch.
@@to_loww yeah and when they go through these stations, they dont half fly through them.
Going 300 kph in a high speed train is indeed as smooth and quiet as it gets. Recline your seat and relax!
Or get online and do some work on the way.
To be honest, it's as relaxing as an airplane...
Sitting their for 7 hours straight, with a bunch of strangers their sweaty armpits besides your nose... Unless you travel first class on the train, that's mostly empty...
Still better than traveling by car tho!
@@timmy7201 At least you can walk around or sit in the restaurant car and eat a Bratwurst. On longer trips I do indeed prefer 1st class though. The surcharge is affordable.
@@timmy7201 Seats on trains are much bigger than on a plane ... so even if there is a sweaty person around ... it is much farther away AND you might even be able to open the window (on a slower train).
@@timmy7201 There's air conditioning even in 2nd class, so no sweaty armpits.
3:07 That train is series 102 of RENFE (National Network of Spanish Railways), the public company that until a few years ago had a monopoly on trains in Spain.
The RENFE 102 series has been manufactured by TALGO (Goicoechea Oriol Light Articulated Train) (Goicoechea and Oriol are the surnames of the company's founders) a Spanish company in collaboration with BOMBARDIER, a Canadian company.
It is popularly known as Pato duck in English, due to the shape of the nose.
In Spain we are very fond of giving things funny nicknames.
Until 2020, Amtrak operated two pendulum Talgo combinations on the Amtrak Cascades line in Washington state.
You should look for information on the Talgo pendulum system and the automatic track gauge change system. This means that train passengers do not have to change trains when they reach the border with France, since Spain has its own gauge, Iberian gauge.
Spain has a very large network. They started building it in 1990, and today it moves millions of passengers and tons of cargo. Spain is a very touristic country, with 80 million visitors every year, and this is the leading domestic transportation method. It has been an incredible success, that keeps on giving. Spain produces up to 80% of its energy with wind and solar durind the daytime, which means, running this trains has become much much cheaper, and very profitable for the state. Since it's a public company, that means, they build new routes with the profits, so it's a win win situation. America is losing out on future economic oportunities of free energy carbonless mass transport.
If America wanted carbonless mass transport we would have it. America has the biggest GDP in the world and all the technology needed to do anything. So there must be a good reason that America has gone another route. Most importantly, America is the largest producer and exporter of petroleum in the world. America can have all the Natural gas or nuclear power plants it needs, your "free" energy isn't really free at all. Everything comes at a cost and will have negative considerations versus other alternatives.
As a Spaniard... Im going to tell you that RENFE as a company is crappy.
@@karlbmiles 😅🤣😂 Yeah... of course sweetie.
German here! The most amazing thing to me when travelling aboard the ICE is that, if it runs at highest speed, you don't even notice. It's really comfortable, but it's always wise to book your seat as the trains can be overcrowded, especially on weekends or during rush hour and holiday season. But I have to confess I still prefer travelling by night train.
5:55 The train here is just a commuter train running at top speed (+/- 100 mph/160 kmh).
Normalt, IC. SPEED.
Admittedly of the EU countries with Fast. Express. Train lines, Germany is amongst the slowest.
@@citamcicak There are 300 km/h lines in germany which are considered high speed and the line in the video is none of them thats a regular line which was equipped with LZB to allow 200 km/h on it the Orange Grey RRX does not have LZB and can only drive 160 km/h. This is considered a ABS or Ausbaustrecke which is basically a standard non high speed line upgraded for 200 or sometimes 220 km/h train travel. It is not a purposed build high speed line. ua-cam.com/video/vI1vy5kXpoI/v-deo.html Thats a proper german high speed line. Also something to note on that 300 km/h line all timetables are not build for 300 km/h but rather for something like 240 so in case of delay they can drive the full 300 km/h and get time back. Another reason is the ICE4s traveling on that line are only capable of 250 km/h. That ways its easier to integrate them into the timetable.
@@citamcicak To be honest, during my inter-rail trip in 2012:
- German trains where the fastest and best organized
- Italian trains where a complete disaster
It's just the opposite of what I experienced!
@@citamcicak That is nonsense.
Some years ago, with my girlfriend, we took a train to Brussels. We got there in the morning, we visited the city and in the early afternoon, we hopped on the Eurostar and after 2 hours, we were in London! We stayed for 2 days, then took the Eurostar to Paris and the next day, we went back home.
We never rented a car or took a taxi. Besides using the train, we either walked or took the subway.
Visited Europe many times between 1998 and 2018 and, apart from Ireland, we never rented a car. Trains, underground systems, occasionally buses (last resort), walking (especially in large cities like London, Paris, Rome, etc) and vaporetto in Venice (my personal favourite public transport system). It made us realise how lacking is the interstate network here in Australia but then with such a huge country and such a small population, high speed rain is never going to be developed because of the cost (though Sydney to Melbourne should have been) - flying, especially for Western Australians like me, remains the only option for fast transport to other states, or even distant parts within my own state.
Wow, that’s a beautiful journey. I have to try it out one of these years
When you consider they deliver you directly to the city centre, and you can just walk into and out of the stations with pretty minimal delay, they just make sense.
They're just so much better than planes on distances up to a few thousands of km.
@@evdweide That’s exactly why the Milan-Rome high-speed railway (570 km) basically “killed” the equivalent connection by plane in Italy.
3 hours from city center to city center, seriously? With a plane you’d waste 3 hours just for check-in and check-out procedures, baggage claim etc.
@@stefano_etrusco the same happened in France between Paris and Lyon and Marseille, no one takes a flight anymore since it is so much more convenient to takt the TGV high speed trains.
@@denzzlinga Exactly. Now think about what will happen when the HS line between Turin and Lyon will be finished. A train ride will take around 4.5 hours between Paris and Milan.
Also, there is a local network converging on the central stations for ongoing connections. Public transport, it's the future.
6:01 - the grey orange one is a regional train running 160 km/h (100 mph) max speed.
Trains are my favorite type of transportation, because of the convenience, speed, comfort, amount of luggage you can take along and the fact it drops you of right in the center of a city.
I can travel from my house to a hotel near gare du nord within 4 hours.
With a car the travel time is 6 hours non stop. Without taking into account any traffic jams.
Which there are around Amsterdam, Antwerp and Paris itself.
Plus parking is a nightmare in Paris as well and very expensive. So 7 hours by car is more reasonable if you take fuel, bathroom and food stops into account.
Travel by plane is faster when you just take the flight time into account. About an hour. However you need to be in the airport 2 hours before departure and getting there takes at least 30-60 minutes.
Then you need to get from the airport in Paris to the center. After getting through security and collecting your bags.
Again the train wins. I always feel so lucky to be able to travel like this. And even did it during my visit in the USA. From NYC to Washington.
You are missing out big time!
In Spain there have been pretty fast trains since the 1960's, but they were isolated models. The AVE (Alta Velocidad Española - High Speed Spain... Ave also means "bird" in spanish) as we know it today started in 1992 between Madrid and Sevilla for the Sevilla Expo 92. Right now, Spain has the fastest average overall train speed on high speed networks, and one of the largest high speed networks in the world. The lines have also been opened to the public sector so you can now get low cost trains running over many routes, not just RENFE trains. One interesting thing about a lot of the train models is they can change track gauge without stopping, going through a track change facility, where the wheels change gauge on the go and takes about a minute to do the entire train, this way being able to utilise the older wider iberian gauge tracks as well as the newer standard gauge tracks, without having to lay down new tracks all over the country or changing trains at different stations.
"The lines have also been opened to private companies" because RENFE was a public monopoly since it's inception.
I've always been very impressed by Spain's train system, while not all are high speed, but there are a lot of them, my only gripe is that I wish there was more trainlines that went along the coast of Costa del sol(example; From Malaga to Alicante or Barcelona) instead of having to go to Madrid from Malaga then out to Alicante.
But compared to Norway that has only one for the airport(albeit our terrain is a hellscape to build high-speed lines on) I'd say you guys are doing a great job.
@@norXmal low rail investment through decades until HST in Spain; because "desarrollismo" (developing phase in Spain under dictatorship) leaded to expand highways and airports but forgot rail until 90s with HST, since only couple of years the HST/conventional-train investments are somehow more equilibrated so it would lead to new lines, hopefully, but it take years or decades to complete just ONE!?
@@norXmal Spain has always been Madrid-centered. Take a look at road maps as well, and you'll see that. In fact, the main 6 highways (A-1 to A-6) are called the "radials".
It's a problem that comes from decades ago, and never resolved. For your example, about the difficulto to get from Malaga to Alicante (or anywhere in the Mediterranean coast), there's actually a plan, "the Mediterranean Corridor", but I doubt that even my grandchildren will see ever being completed.
@@norXmal There is no need for an high speed trains. High speed train is good for long distances with few stops and the high investment means that it is used between large population areas, although it can offer infrequent service to low population places that happen to be near the rout and with enough distance from other stations.
Regional and local train that have shorter distances between station and also serve smaller towns won't benefit from high speed train.
As for Spain, it has the second largest high speed rail network in the world after China and the largest per capita.Most of the existing network goes through Madrid but the network is still growing and other connection are being created. One of the most important corridors is the Mediterranean corridor that is has been under construction in section for years and is nearing completion (probably at around 2027/8) and will enable direct connection from France through Catalunya along the coast of the Mediterranean up to Granada and from there to the HSr network of Andalucía.Costa del Sol is not a good place to build high speed train but there are improvement under constructions to allow better and faster high speed connections between the main cities in Andalucía. The first high speed line in Spain to Sevilla is undergoing extended renovations. Other lines that are under advance construction are the lone to Exttremadura, that will connect to Portugal, The long ti,e inder construction Y in Basque country and extension and improvements in other areas.
Spain´s goal is to make the high speed lines the long distance service that will connect all major cities in every autonomous region. The least advance line is the The last ones will be La Rioja as many there do not want the high speed trains fearing construction will have negative environmental impacts on their region.
The Japanese shinkansen ("bullet train") has been operating since the 1960s and current models do around 300kph/186mph. The most impressive thing is that the shinkansen, in all that time, has NEVER had a fatal accident. And this is in a country with frequent earthquakes and typhoons. In that time the network has carried more than 10 billion passengers, greater than the population of the entire world.
On 1963 only 210kph.
The first line high speed its only 270 kph.
I think the Shikansen has an automated stop during an earthquake to protect it and its passengers
There was one occasion when a bullet train hit someone hanging around close to the track. As expected, there was nothing recognisable left of him, just human remains imbedded in the nose and across the track. The driver didn’t even realise he hit anything, all he heard was a slight thump. There was another incident when a 17 year old student got his finger caught in the door and the train dragged him until he fell and was killed.
@@qasimmir7117 I knew about the second incident but do you have a source for the first? To clarify I should have said that the shinkansen has never had a fatal accident caused by a crash or derailment. There have been other deaths, for example a person who committed s***ide on the train by setting themself on fire, which killed and injured several other people. But that could have happened in any public place.
@@dominiklehn2866 Yes!
High Speed experience: TGV Paris - Bordeaux (575 km) travel time *2hr 3min* city center to city center. If you book your seat in advance it can be cheap: Wednesday 7 August, 9:11am - 11:14am, 49 euros.
505km. Old track have more kilometrs.
Faster than by plane!
@@ruhri0411if you take security and other airport stuff into account it’s way slower
@@xAntrim I think that was the point. You're faster from Paris city center to Bordeaux city center by train than by plane.
@@Clery75019 yes I know I war replying to someone else
The reason why the nose of the trains are so large is because that design helps to reduce sound. That helps when the trains enters a city. Eurostar have and “old” design.
Of all the high speed trains in Europe, the ones in France and Spain are probably the most satisfying to ride on, because they have a lot of long routes that are mostly high-speed. In contrast, Germany's high-speed network is more piecemeal still, with only a few long stretches of high speed, so it feels like you're slowing down quite a lot (not to mention Deutsche Bahn's terrible delays!)
The recordings in Germany were not taken on high-speed routes, but on normal routes with higher speeds. The excerpts from Spain and France, on the other hand, were on real high-speed routes, so the video did not offer a real comparison.
Only the first even sows an actual high speed train. The other ones are one slowe inter city train and the rest being only regional trains, basically the busses of trains.
Hey, i am the creator of the video. It was an accident. But, if you enter my video, you can see high speed trainss in germany that were cut-off.
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FYI these somewhat weird looking extra long noses are not only for aerodynamic drag-reduction, but also important, when entering a tunnel at high speeds to keep the air in the tunnel a little more time to move and reduce the air-pressure when approaching the tunnel. That's also why these tunnel-entrances are inclined.
There's a better video called high speed rail europe intense edition, react to that too.
I'm in the UK and I think our faster trains commonly reach 125 mph, but when travelling to France, there's a stretch of motorway south of Calais where the trains run parallel to the motorway. Legal motorway speed is about 80 mph (130 kph), so it feels very odd when a train overtakes you like you're not moving.
HS1 trains reach 185mph.
ye the eurostar lines
Yes, we loved that when we were riding the high speed trains in France - it was the first indication that you're really travelling at speed when you realised the train was easily overtaking the cars on the free flowing motorways.
@@heatherharvey3129 A bit like travelling on the central mainline from London through to the Midlands, where you run parallel to the M1 for a period. Most recent times have seen the speed differential being around 100mph due to roadworks and congestion on the motorway.😀😀
@@clivewilliams3661 LOL There's a reason why buses were our "last resort" choice when we were in the UK - trains, despite the costs, for travelling out of London to places like York, etc. 😁
If I'm right, the Acela is partly based on french TGV (because Acela is a result of a consortium between Bombardier and... Alstom, the public company which makes the TGV). I don't know (and don't remember) all the details, but you can find them easily.
As a frenchman, i travel so many time since the 90's with the french TGV , Thalys & Eurostar. In 1999, i applied for a job in the French National Railways Company then i traveled 3 times with the pilot on long range at 300km/h (186m/h). Its really impressive & got one of my favorite speed souvenir.
First thing: most of the trains in the clips were going slow due to them passing through a station. There's only few stations that are build to accomodate a full speed passage for safety and environmental reasons (these trains going full tilt are LOUD and you understandably don't want that in a city). You can tell because the double decker trains are normal commuter trains that afaik top out at 160km/h (100 mph) and both kinds looked about equally fast. A real high speed train ripping by at speed would look and sound a LOT different. You may or may not be surprised to read me tell you that sitting inside the train, it's incredibly quiet and a smooth ride, you would not be able to tell that you're speeding at 200+ km/h along the country side. At least until another train passes and you feel a brief lurch as the whole train shudders from the clash of displaced air. In the smaller commuter trains, it sounds and feels like the doors are getting ripped out of the train, though thankfully we don't contract Boeing to make those for us.
Secondly: Casual speed conversion math errors in the AI search results. Nice to see these things are still about as trustworthy as your next door scam artists trying to sell bridges. I'd disable that crap on your search engine before you get fed potentionally harmful misinformations.
the swiss IC 2000 actually goes up to 200km/h, and TGV duplex actually reaches 320km/h in usage as a double decker train.
@@robertheinrich2994 He probably meant the German RRX units (grey Desiro HC trains with a bit of white and orange).
@@leanderhartl9504 could be. but doubledecker = commuter = 160km/h is just oversimplified. there are faster ones.
@@robertheinrich2994 yes, it's a vague description, but the ones you listed are not regional train sets. The Duplex is a high-speed train and the IC 2000/2020 / Twindex is something that goes faster than 160 km/h, but maybe shouldn't.
@@robertheinrich2994 I didn't say all double deckers are commuter trains. I refered to the ones shown in the clip and those were the regional commuter kind of trains. Even if some models can go faster than what I'm familiar with it doesn't invalidate the point I made which was that even though they look equally fast in the clips, the actual topspeed differences between those and the actual high speed trains are significant and not illustrated in the video. I hope that clarifies my point to everyone's satisfaction.
I’ve been on several trips by train from coast to coast in both the USA and Canada. Because the US railways are virtually all freight lines and they have the priority. Passenger trains will have to wait for goods trains as they have priority. In Europe passenger trains have priority and timetables are built for that, a goods train will be held back in a siding to allow the passenger train to keep to its timetable.
They also have much better track beds, unlike their American counterparts which still use wooden ties.
I'm from Norway, and here we don't have high speed trains. I've been traveling Europe, and I have to say France stands out from the rest. The TGV is extensive, and available "everywhere". Those other countries have very nice rail networks as well, but if you're a high speed train tourist, visit France. 🚄
210 km/h is in no way a record, but it could barely pass definition of high speed, so Norway is not hopeless.
Also, there are some stretches of railway that will be good for 250 km/h, should such trains arrive to Norway in the future.
While I agree with the TGV being nice, the regional train network in France is non existent. Try going from Biarritz to Geneva, you'd have to go all the way up to Paris because there is nothing in between. Many towns aren't even connected.
@@xanukraine All new railway sections in Norway are approved for 250 km/h. All trains are new in Norway except for some local trains that will arrive in 2025/26 and the new long-distance trains for both day and night lines. The first will appear in 2025. The last will be able to drive at 250 km/h. The new trains at Oslo Gardermoen from CAF can run at 250 km/h - but there the speed is 220 km/h
The comment is not right. The only city where you have various high speed destination's from is Paris. The rest of the country is like everything in France fare away from such good service. Go to Google and see how you get from Bordeaux to Lyon (two mayor frech cities) to prove what I'm saying.
My opinion is, that Spain has currently the best European high speed network. Italy and Germany aren't complete with their roll-out yet, but especially Germany is connecting the whole country far better.
High-speed rail requires flat, straight tracks, and Norway's geography could be described as a half-drowned mountain range (apart from the Southern parts). That really puts a hard block on building this kind of infrastructure.
Many of the trains also have speed gauges in the passenger spaces. It's a cool feeling seeing "300 km/h" on a display^^ Also these trains run really smooth too.
The standard commercial speed for high speed rail is around 320km/h, that's north of 200mph. Here in France, we've had them since Paris to Lyon opened in 1983. The train ride used to be four hours (it takes five hours by car). The TGV (High Speed Train) gets you there in two hours, centre to centre.
Paris to Marseille takes nearly eight hours by car if you don't stop at all. The TGV gets you there in three hours and twenty minutes. These trains are absolutely fabulous.
The world record for a train on tracks (not on magnetic levitation) was reached by the French TGV on April 3rd, 2007 when it reached 574,8 km/h (that's 357 mph).
From Spain here, I live in alicante and my family is in Madrid so I use the hight speed train with some regularity and I can tell you it smoother than any ccar and even smother than lower speed trains. I have also seen doumentaries about the train network in Europe and USA and desspite still thinking you guys desperatly need them,as I have traveled all over Europe and understand the true scale o an eficient and worth while train network is a lot more thatn just one 10 line hightway, and a lot of people would have to agree to invest a lot of money. I still think you need it, but good luck selling that is todays politics.
I've taken 100's times (if not more) the french TGV, and always been amazed when they cross a station at high speed : you really feel their power, much more than once inside, where you have to look outside to know it's going fast.
The best part in AVE is that you did not even realize moovement and speed. It looks like you are still in a place while your're at 310kph (190 mph aprox)
I just stumbled on your videos through some YT suggestions (the first one being the one where you watched the German police car review). And I have to say, I love how you use good reasoning and are very reflected with your comments. This is kind of refreshing, make the videos pleasant to watch.
Best way to describe the feeling whilst at top speed is to imagine sitting in a bottle that slightly rolls as it speeds along the track, curves are felt around your hip as the upper body sways with the curved tracks and feels like gravity plays tricks..cars adjacent to the train on the highway seem to go real real slow😊
My partner as an app that keeps track of all her family . She showed my it one day the eldest grandson who's just passed his motorbike test was recorded at 125 mph. I told her to ring him up and tell him not to be so stupid. Turns out he was on a train
Hahaha the look on his face with the first two trains. 😂
The Acela is a high speed train riding on conventional tracks for the most part. That's why it can't reach it's top speed for the vast majority of the route.
The US could easely order high speed trains but if you don't have dedicated high speed lines that aren't shared with non-high speed trains, then you can't run your high speed trains at the speeds they're designed for.
You've reacted to a bunch of trains passing through stations, but at these stations the trains are required to slow down for safety reasons.
The 1st german train you reacted to was the high speed train, the other german trains you saw were actually regular trains
From the comments we see that some people don't know the rail speed record.
The record is 574.8 km/h (159.7 m/s) set by a modified TGV Euroduplex.
It was attained on the LGV Est, at PK 193.2 , near the commune de Éclaires (Marne).
The train was named V150 because they were aiming a record speed of 150 m/s (540 km/h), that was surpassed.
The specially prepared train was upgraded to 19.6 MW and the tension on the overhead power line was increased to 31 kV.
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_du_monde_de_vitesse_sur_rail_en_France
We don't have high speed rail for numerous reasons...
1) We have an amazing interstate highway system.
2) Part of American freedom is the ability of citizens to move anywhere in the Country on a moments notice. Low income people can travel anywhere in their cars.
3) Our Amtrak has to be subsidized due to lack of passengers willing to pay the true cost of their tickets.
4) Taxpayers are not going to shell out trillions of dollars to fund something few people are going to use. If we want to go really fast we buy an airline ticket.
5) Euro countries have made personal car ownership and operation very expensive. They have made rail travel artificially attractive.
I'm a train mechanic for central Paris, if you loves trains, you should look up to the french TGV system and history, i don't know if theres a good video about it.
Have a good day Wrocker !!
Look up: Why French Trains Are The Fastest
@@luca94430 that’s cool,😎 thank you, have a great night friend 🎉
@@IWrocker Here is a link for the high speed record from 2007 by the TGV. Enjoy.
ua-cam.com/video/EOdATLzRGHc/v-deo.html
@@chrismulder6523From the UA-cam channel Mustard
the TGV is commercially limited to 320km/ph, but it's record is insane : 574.8 kmh / 357.16 mph
check the sound when it's passing... ;) ua-cam.com/video/gpeivd9zp90/v-deo.html
The _Acela_ high speed trains connecting Boston and Washington are the same used for the TGV service in France.
The trains which will be deployed in California will be from Siemens, the same used for the ICE service in Germany and the AVE in Spain.
If you want a cool look into one of the oldest high speed trains in europe, and the first to break 300 km/h, the channel Mustard made a really cool documentary about the TGV "Why french trains are the fastest"
Another one i could recommend, is the absolute speed record on rails of 574.8 km/h, from the same train, that video is crazy to watch, and i dont think ill ever get bored of it
Ther is also a highspeed train from Brightline in Florida, between Miami and Orlando and highspeed reail is al build in Califotnia with also a track to Las Vegas and they are also planning something in Texas.
The strange shape of the front of the train looks odd because it reduces the bang that happens when the train leaves a tunnel.
Many Americans have never been on a bus, let alone a train 😂
5:37 This train is an Intercity train that's probably running at 125 mph. (200 kmh)
Don't forget that there are also residential buildings nearby, so there is often a speed limit for trains for noise protection reasons.
Since this is near a train station and near residential buildings with comparatively little sound insulation the train probably does not exceed 75 mp/h (120 km/h), maybe at max 87 mp/h (140 km/h). Any more would be dangerous.
Or if a train is an Intercity it's about 50/50 whether it's running at all.
@@manub.3847 This only applies to road transport, not to rail transport. At the German recording location with the ICE and IC, the speed limit is between 140 and 160 km/h on the tracks on the platform and 200 km/h on the other two tracks.
@@avmz111 Of course there are noise protection guidlines for trains in cities and near residential buildings, this is Germany. No train there would be faster than 140 km/h.
Have you ever been on a platform where trains pass thru at 140 km/h? This is definetly not one of them, it would suck you of the platform if you where accidentally to close to the track.
The Eurostar has a specific sound as it is designed to go in the channel tunnel between UK & France and has better slip streaming than regular TGV. To avoid having too much air pressure....
Germany has much less high speed tracks compared to France for example. The line Paris Marseille has almost entirely dedicated high speed tracks, the train covers 800 km in 3 hours.
High speed trains were a game-changer in the transport world.
More than 40 years ago I used to travel from Vitoria to Cordoba, in Spain, (aprox. 800 km). The best option at the time, not having a car, was the Express Star "Estrella Picasso", which travelled overnight and took about 12 hours to arrive.
When I eventually got a car, it still took me more than 9 hours to do the trip.
Now, with the combination Alvia-AVE, it's just about 6 hours, and the comfort is well worth the extra cost.
remember traveling in Spain from Malaga to cordoba by train in 2006 and when we returned 2 years later the time it took was halved due to completion of the high speed Ave lines, wonderful trains and the service is amazing. Also travelled on eurostar from London to Paris, then Paris to Vanne the French rail system is also impressive. When I was a child my father worked for the british railways and as his family we got free train travel in the UK so my love of trains started early
The thing that gives you a true impression of how fast these trains go is if you find a cabview video. Looking as far into the distance as you can and realising that it'll only take you 10 seconds to reach the limit of your distance vision.
This! Or even the passenger view, especially if you get to cmpare the speed and ease at which people in the train move around to all the blur behind the window.
For Ian:
German railway has kind of a colour coding to indicate the type and speed-bracket a train is operating in
White with red stripe is usually the fastest: ICE and InterCity
Red with white stripes is DB Regio service
other colour schemes "private-ish" competitors to DB, running any service speed apart from the ICE/InterCity
They only filmed 1 ICE train in Germany. The other trains were regional or just IC, and to add to that the zones that they were filmed in weren't allowing the trains to move at full speed.
I use TGV's in France (which translates to "High Speed Train") once every two months, and I can say that even if it's going 300+ km/h, it's really comfortable! Obviously you see on the outside that you're going fast, but you don't really feel it. The TGV can connect the two biggest French cities, Paris and Marseille, in 3h20, when it would take 7h30 by car. Really cool!
The first AVE (literaly translated Spanish high speed but in Spanish "ave" means bird) was put on tracks in April 1992 and conected Madrid with Sevilla. You can see the outline of a bird on the train's logo.
All trains slow their speed at tunnels and stations for safety reasons. The video would be more realistic if they recorded the trains at the open.
I prefer traveling with trains... They are way more comfortable than planes because you can go to the bar, walk around, they have bigger bathrooms, have leg room and you can travel with more lugage than the plane and always get you at the city centre. For me it's a plus when I arrive at the middle of the city. This year I traveled between Barcelona to Málaga with AVE trains. In 5 and a half hours I was at Málaga city centre (1150 km aprox. from Barcelona) with a change of high speed trains in Madrid (I had 30 minuts to change trains). If I traveled by plane it was only an hour less than traveling by train because you have to arrive a pair of hours before the flight time at the airport and when you arrive at the destination airport you have to take another transport (bus, train, taxi) to the city centre. If you make numbers you use nearly the same amount of time to travel between those two cities and trains are more relaxing for me than planes.
The Swiss train seemed a normal commute train because it was double decked and usually high speed trains are single decked to have lower gravitatorial centre and make them more stable to be able to reach 300 km/h but I'm not an expert on trains, I can be lying ☹. Here in Spain the double decked trains are used to commute and if you go on the upper deck you can feel more the movement of the train than in the lower one. On high speed trains around Europe the movement is minimal and you don't feel the speed. Euromed and Talgo (other Spanish trains) connect cities in Spain and their maximum speed is around 200 km/h. We have too slower trains (Intercity) that have speeds around 160 km/h and our commute trains reach a120 km/h maximum when they decided to be on time 🙄 or not broken down with a technical issue.
The video didn't show Italian Freccia Rossa (Red arrow) trains but they are really comfortable and the hostess are lovely (and fashionable 🤣, I love their uniforms).
Pues ya ves que los Ouigo son de dos pisos
The TGV are double decker high speed trains
@@ivannipaidea970 🤣🤣 no pensé en ellos
@@cdrw92 I didn't remember them. I said I wasn't an expert
These are RENFE class 103s and that's literally the export version of the German ICE 3 (Class 403/406/407/408) for Spain, there are even more variants of that Siemens Velaro family, for Russia (where it's called "Sapsan" - Peregrine falcon, the fastest of all birds), China (CRH3), Turkey and also France/Britain (Eurostar 320, before they were delivered, they also drove with ICE 3 class 406 (which can run 4 different voltages - 1.5kV DC, 3kV DC, 15kV/16.7Hz AC and 25kV/50Hz AC) sets to London).
Yes, the older TGV trainsets were single deckers, but the newer ones are the double-decked TGV Duplex, some branded as "Ouigo" (which seems to be their budget lineup).
Some say these feel a little cramped, I can't tell, I haven't traveled with a TGV yet, but often with regional trains here in Germany and a lot of them are double-decked these days (like these at minute 6, it's a Siemens Desiro HC (=High Capacity) electric multiple unit).
the german trains were mostly commuter trains. Only the first one was a old version of the highspeed train.
Wasn't the second train an Intercity (not as fast as an ICE, but also a long distance train)? I wouldn't call that a "commuter train".
@@tobyk.4911 Yes but on a non high speed line. The grey orange RRX is a commuter train doing 160 km/h max.
@@tobyk.4911I think that was an ICE Metropolitan, now it’s scrapped.
@@szymex22 I didn't know the ICE Metropolitan, so in that case I didn't recognize it. It looked quite interesting in the video: pulled by a red locomotive that doesn't look like ICE at all, but the rear end looks like the end of an ICE.
@@tobyk.4911anything pulled by a locomotive like that for me is not hst 😂
You should look at 'Why the us has no high speed rail' by CNBC or 'The US High Speed Rail explained' by RMTransit if you want to learn more about how HST's currently are in america
what i remember from those videos (because it was most shocking to me) was that they have a relatively good high top speed, but (as was already said in this video) only for some short parts of the entire routes, and that their average speed for passengers then is only in the 70s instead of 150-250, because freight trains have priority (tracks mostly are owned by the freight train companies), making the passenger trains slow down or stop completely to be overtaken by the freight trains, and only being allowed to use "gaps between freight trains".
but for the real info and real data, watch the videos that that fella suggested.
9:44 indeed, riding these trains is an experience! Especially if you're covering a lot a of varied landscapes. Zooming past a mountain from the wagon-bar is certainly a good intro to a week of skiing
I've traveled in the French TGV a couple of times, and to me the speed was incredible. Passing a train going in the other direction (I bet they slowed down for it) produced quite a wham-sound, despite the specialized windows. What I noticed was the specialized tracks, and the noise absorbing earth banks on most of the distance. Not a lot of scenery to see, but one gets to the destination at least as fast as a short flight (which includes all the time at the airport and getting from there to the city center).
When you are in the TGV (Train Grande Vitesse (=High Speed Train), in France), you almost don't feel the speed. It's very smooth, you can move in the train like nothing to reach the "bar train" and buy a drink (very expensive lol), it's pretty cool!
The TGV can go faster, but for safety, there is some limits. (320 km/h, when the record is 574,8 km/h, and the train could travels between 400 and 500km/h without any problem.
But even at 320 km/h, because France is a pretty small country (especially compare with the USA), this speed is enough, and you can reach almost every big cities in France in 2 or 3 hours from Paris with this train! And as you say, it's so much easier to take the train rather than the plane (and, not always, but can be cheaper), so even if it's not as fast as a plane, it's more convenient for a lot of people.
The length of the Chinese high-speed railway is over 40,000 kilometers (2022), Beijing-Guangzhou, Beijing-Wuhan, on which trains reach speeds of up to 350 kilometers per hour, The record for the highest operational speed of a passenger train of 431 kilometers per hour (268 mph)
maglev record is 603kph
but they losing money like no tomorrow, last time they 9 trillion in red, and from people who lived there most Chinese cannot afford to use them and use slower cheaper train instead and safety that is very questionable as they have a lot issues
@@stevekenilworth China is not America, it's not all about money.
@@stevekenilworthLosing money or profits doesn't matter when it's a state-owned operation.
@@rodsparks4980 bet i dose to those who taxed for it when over billion people cannot afford to use it. 70% of Chinese are in poverty that was a study from Chinese universality what government tried to hide and swipe it from internet, if i was one those 70% and knowing i was funding a railway what i cannot afford to use and it losing trillions id be pi**ed. and the safety of them very questionable they had issues the stuff what manged to get through the Chinese firewall id a drop in the bucket
Definitely look up that TGV speed record. Magnificent train. French are very proud and for a good reason.
In France the speed of the train depends on the capacity of the line. (bends, ascents, descents, tunnels, strength of the rail, electrical capacity of the catenary)
The maximum nominal speed authorized for trains corresponds to the fastest speed authorized for the fastest trains.
This division is informed by a numerical value having the unit kilometer/hour, a value included in a range from 5 to 350.
the existing lines types are:
1 - 100 km/h
101 - 120 km/h
121 - 140 km/h
141 - 160 km/h
161 - 200 km/h
201 - 220 km/h
220 - 350 km/h
The world record for commercial trains on RAIL has been held in France since 2007 at 574.8 km/h, but the maximum authorized is 350 km/h...safety first!
At the station, speed is limited to avoid the blast effect.
You will always hear at the station when a passing train approaches: "For your safety, please move away from the edge of the platform."
This is what we do for fun in Europe, it beats driving for endless hours.
They have cafes and bars on board!
London to Paris in just over 2 hrs = super cool!! 🙋♀️🇬🇧🥳
The Germany section's grey-orange trains were Siemens Desiro [or Mireo?] HC trains, which are regular regional units, not highspeed. The white single deck trains with a red stripe are the ICEs, which are the highspeed ones that go about 200-300km/h - not to be confused with the similar-looking, but not self-propelled IC units.
IC = InterCity
ICE = InterCity Express
Hey i am the creator, my bad for the regio trains.
Swiss dude here, that train was not highspeed. It's a normal train used between "big" cities. We don't really have true highspeed rail here since the tracks are limited to 200km/h, but we do have a few high speed trains that connect Swiss cities to other countries. Like the TGV Lyria for exemple
Actually you do. The Gotthard and Lötchberg base tunnels allow for 250 km/h running
@@MaartenOtto That's 92km out of the 5000-something kilometers of our rail network. Sure that's technically highspeed but... kinda short
Also, of all trains, why did they pick the bombardier :I
I was on a local train service Norwich to London in 1988 talking to American couple. I apologised for how bad the trains were. I was amazed when they told me it was so much better than the US. 😱
Took the Eurostar/TGV from London to Geneva via Paris. Fantastic experience. They are incredibly cool. Looking forward to taking the Shinkansen in Japan later this year
I used to take the TGV (France) often back then. Your ears actually ring when on board. Just like on a plane. The Eurostar connects Paris to London. The trip last about 2 hours and it goes underwater. The ticket price is pretty cheap (45€).
The big difference is that railways are nationalised (government enterprises) in Europe, whereas in the US they are private commercial companies. The cost of the infrastructure for high-speed rail lines comes from the European governments, we are talking $billions to lay down the track beds and to grade the landscapes to accept the routes. All are electric motive power too, so there is the cost of building and maintaining all of that overhead cabling and power supplies. The US could easily afford to do it, but your political system would seem to be the obstacle. With each state having its own transportation system and funding, there is not the nationwide unity that high-speed rail requires.
Je pense que le problème du réseau ferré américain est que le lobby du pétrole et de l'aviation commerciale écrase toute possibilité pour une compagnie ferroviaire de pouvoir investir et moderniser le réseau!
@@marc9080 California wanted to build one but then a megalomaniac named Musk came along with some vaporware called 'Hyperloop' and effectively sabotaged it.
Nope European railways are private companies, but usually owned by the state.
The track companies are separate from the passenger train operators. While the construction of high speed rail is financed by the countries, the operators compete with each other (usually including the national one), helping bring prices down and offer multiple types of services. To accomplish this they buy track access from the national track company.
01:30 The worst stations are these ones you have to jump aboard while the train is moving.
2:25 because, so far i know, the US prioritizes freight over passengers
Just thinking. All these are traveling through very populated countries. You, in the States, have so much more room to set high speed trains up
I took a regular Amtrak train once from Washington to New York, during a vacation where I wanted to visit both cities.
It was not a bad experience at all, it was fun, clean and efficient.
You guys should have a lot more of that all over the USA.
There are petrol lobbies in America. You do not need a fast train.
The issue you will have in the US is that due to the lack of local public transport and your zoning laws, if you are not careful you'll end up with train stations in the middle of nowhere where you end up stuck and need to hire a car, which rather defeats the point.
Mr Ford etc. would have objections. Did no one watch 'Who framed Roger Rabbit?'
@@etherealbolweevil6268 Like the real life Great Street Car conspiracy
Deutschland fährt viel auf konventionellen Strecken ,ein Kompromiss zwischen vielen Haltepunkten und Geschwindigkeit.
Liegt halt auch an der Siedlungsstruktur, insbesondere im Westen, wo sich die Großstädte dicht aneinanderreihen.
Ist ganz anders als zB Frankreich, wo die großen Metropolregionen bis auf Paris Randlage haben.
Soweit ich weiß, hat man in Frankreich schon sehr viel früher getrennte Strecken für Güterverkehr und Schnellverkehr gebaut, d.h. schon in der Dampflokära.
Bis Anfang der 1980er Jahre sind bei uns lediglich Strecken für höhere Geschwindigkeiten ertüchtigt worden, die jedoch für alle Arten von Transport vorgesehen waren.
So hat man beispielsweise 1965 die Strecke München-Augsburg speziell dafür ausgebaut, mit den Vorserien-Loks der Baureihe E 03 ( spätere BR 103; die rasenden Eier) Geschwindigkeiten von 200 km/h und mehr fahren zu können.
Erst mit den BR 120 Loks und den ICE 1 Zügen kamen bei uns Systeme auf die Schiene, die für Fahrten mit dauerhaft hohen Geschwindigkeiten über 200 km/h ausgelegt waren, weshalb dann auch die Neubaustrecken Würzburg-Hannover und Stuttgart-Mannheim gebaut wurden.
@@to_loww ein weiterer Unterschied liegt in der Landschaftsform und dem Umgang damit.
Ich kann mich noch daran erinnern, dass man sich in Frankreich nicht überall auf die TGV-Strecken gefreut hat, weil an einigen Stellen sehr tiefe und weite Einschnitte in die Landschaft vorgenommen wurden.
Auf der Strecke Würzburg-Hannover wurden viele Tunnel und Brücken eingeplant, wofür sowohl die Tunnel als auch die Züge für entsprechend hohe Drücke und Druckveränderungen ausgelegt werden mussten.
I took rides on various Frecciarossa, TGV, AVE and Swiss high speed trains as the Giruno and they are all awesome. Here in Europe we have pretty cool high speed trains, but also commuter, intercity and night trains are pretty awesome. Railway network in Europe is nice, we like to complain about delays and other problems of the railway system, but it’s great to have it. I work on freight trains in Italy since 2018 and before it I have been spotting trains all around western Europe for a long time. Talking about freight trains, USA may seem ahead, but in reality we have pretty nice electric locomotives hauling freight trains. Of course, our freight trains are not as long and heavy as US ones, we are obviously limited by an infrastructure that was designed in most cases almost 200 years ago, and we see how passenger trains have priority over freight, and also another thing that limits us a lot is not using an automatic coupler on freight trains.
Speaking of high speed, they started to gain big popularity all around western Europe around late 90s-mid 2000s. It’s true that France started earlier, but Spain and Italy have pretty nice high speed systems too. Germany took a different approach, they have not a lot of high speed lines, but they upgraded some conventional lines to reach higher speeds, and it’s a brilliant idea. 230km/h may not be high speed as it starts conventionally at speeds from 250km/h, but it’s decent and in my opinion more cost effective, as the same infrastructure can be used also by slower regional/intercity or even freight trains when there are no high speed trains.
Cant talk about high speed trains without mentioning Japan, I know its European trains but Japan is building maglev train track that will run trains at 500kmph and cut travel time off of their Shinkansen trains who run at 320kmph.
The first three comments I saw were literraly all bots.
Its on every channel i follow almost. The early comments were all fembots over the last week on them all 🤷♂️
First clips from Spain are AVE (Alta Velocidad Española- Spanish High Speed), managed by Renfe ( Red Nacional de Ferrocarriles Españoles), a state owned company, the main but not the only that run high speed trains in Spain. The first high speed train in Spain made the route Madrid-Sevilla a long time ago, in 1992.
They look like german ICEs. 🤔
I don't mean to sound all social worker but I think it goes to the heart of how divided America is that connecting up by train is way too much work for the US.
when watching old western movies, there almost always are trains, either shown as the stations where the heroes and villains enter or leave the town (have a look at the beginning of "once upon a time in the west", or classics like "high noon"), or even where the train plays a central role in connecting the east and the west of the usa to unite all the states, showing races between companies who can finish the connection first. thus one might assume that the usa nowadays could/would have a good train network all over the country, and they might really have that today if they would have continued working on it, instead of starting and improving road connections to a degree that there now are highways with dozens of lanes instead of much narrower and faster train routes, and having caused destruction of old city centers in favor of those highways and parking lots.
undoing all of this and building a completely different infrastructure would not only be difficult (constructionwise) and costly, but also require a complete change in habits and preferences over many decades (including eg zoning laws, local transit, personal goals changing away from "having ones own house in suburbs", etc). having only highspeed trains with no infrastructure to get people to and from the stations of that network (except as, once again, by car) probably would not be effective and make no sense.
the european high speed train networks can only work together with lots of regional train connections (and other public transport) around the big highspeed stations. and i also see that as a problem over here when companies do only the calculations of "too few passengers on a specific small line" to cause that small line being dismantled and then wondering why people don't use the wonderful good and fast trains. of course people will keep driving when they first had to use cars to get to the stations, and also need cars at their destinations.
@@Anson_AKB You made a very good point. I agree with you that it seems that USA already chose its "system" and it's based only on cars, and it would be now almost impossible to change. It must have been done in the 50's.
You mentioned about wishing to have high speed trains connecting Los Angeles to Phoenix, etc. In fact Brightline (who run the Florida Miami-Orlando service) are planning to build a high speed line go to from LA to Las Vegas as branch line of the California High Speed Rail network which is already under construction to connect LA to San Francisco. Brightline East (as the Florida service is also know) is also planned to be extended to Tampa (and beyond). There is also a high speed line under construction in Texas between Houston and Dallas based in the Japanese Shinkansen technology, known as Texas central rail. I don't see high speed rail ever serving right across the US due to the massive distances, however high speed rail is extremely competitive with air travel for distances of up to about 500 miles (France is in fact in the process of banning all domestic air travel routes due to the convenience offered by the TGV service).
PS. Most of the slower German trains might not be the main high speed (ICE - Inter City Express) units from what I could tell. The ICE trains normally are white with a red line down the length of the train below the windows. Even domestic UK train services which travel on lines dating from the 19th century reach 125mph for significant distances (these have been upgraded since then, however the high speed trains still need to share these lines with much slower goods trains). There are a number of quite awesome videos of these trains flying by level crossings at 125mph (and this is SLOW by European standards). I have also had to stop at a level crossing waiting for a train on the East Coast Main Line to go whizzing by and then hoping that the booms will go up just to have another train go whizzing by in the opposite direction. HS2 (which is STILL struggling to get going, if it ever does) promises even higher speed domestic services for the UK. As a further footnote, the Eurostar is a train service which goes through a tunnel underneath the English Channel (known colloquially as the Chunnel) between London, UK and and the rest of Europe - this is also referred to as HS1 in the UK although this only really stops at St. Pancras station in London on the UK side.
Another PS : The French hold the world speed record for a train on steel tracks of 574,4km/h (357mph) achieved by an electric powered TGV train. The UK holds the speed record for steam trains (a A4 Pacific locomotive named "Mallard achieved ±202km/h - 126mph) as well as diesel powered trains (an HST train set achieved a speed of 238km/h - 148mph).
My country(Portugal)has the "Alfa Pendular" kinda of TGV.. that goes up to 220 km/h..it looks pretty fast from a far when it goes by..good video.
Most of those trains from Germany were not high speed trains. In Germany the trains go 186 mph.
Not all trains can reach a speed of 186 mph. That's only the ICE 3. ICE 1 & 2 has a top speed of 174 mph, ICE 4 has a top speed of approximately 160 mph. Also, the speed of 186 mph can only be driven on the route between Frankfurt/Main and Cologne.
@@Dueruemtarget i only go on the one between CGN and FRA. But I have been on Thales from Köln to Paris. How fast is that?
@@larrywynn9092 up to 250km/h in Germany and 300 km/h in Belgium and France
@@Dueruemtarget 300km/h can be reached on the the lines Nürnberg-Ingolstadt and Nürnberg-Erfurt-Halle/Leipzig too
I wonder why it showed for germany a few regional trains?
Yeah, only the first one was high speed (ICE - Intercity Express).
even 160 km/h (100 mph) can be considered to be "high speed" when compared to american trains that can go as fast or faster on very short parts of tracks (as was mentioned in this video), but the overall average of even those fast passenger trains then is only in the 70s because of shared tracks with freight trains that have priority. real high speed trains need to get passengers to their stations somehow, and without an overall pretty good train network (or other public transport), a few high speed trains won't have much use and effect.
And so as Info the first generation of ICE was taken in service in 1989.
The france TGV was taken into service in 1981.
But most countrys in europe, had trains with speeds with other 200 kph since the 70s?
Belgian "ordinary" trains are usually capable of reaching 160 km/h, problem is our trajectories are too short to get to that speed or keep it for a long time.
The fastest train in Europe is the French TGV with a top speed of 574.8 km/h (357.2 Mph) and it was designed for speed.
But if you want to see something impressive, you can look up at the Indian Railways with the Gatimaan express for example. This is the kind of train that is used in Europe for secondary railway systems and for safety reasons they don't go faster than 125 mph, although in India they don't seem to have any safety measures, so it's really mind-blowing to watch.
in 2007, the TGV reached 574.8 km/h, the current world record
The record video is on UA-cam
These were not all high-speed trains.
Haha the German ones were not even high-speed trains except for one (first one). That one was the first model from the 80s & 90s. It's called ICE ( I.C.E., not "ice", for Intercity Express). They have a lot more newer ones. They go up to 330kmh/205mph.
The 2nd train was an IC (InterCity) and they go about 200kmh/125mph.
The other ones were just regular commuter trains which go about 160kmh/100mph top speed.
Check out ICE videos with the newer versions where they go full beans. :)
Funny how you react!! 😆In Italy we have 3 different types of trains (I think all Europe countries has the same), Regionals up to 160 km/h, Intercities up to 200 Km/h and AVs up to 300 Km/h. First two runs on conventional tracks, and the last on special and separated tracks. And yes, it's awesome viewing these trains pass by...
I rode the TGV on the high speed track from Bordeaux and Paris. 2 hours only, and to see the landscape flying by the window is impressive.
Standing at the cafeteria of a train at 300 km/h enjoying a beer and a sandwich while reading a newspaper makes life better.