No country is "ready" after independence from a colonizer. Check how USA performed after 1776. Check south American countries after independence from Spain and Portugal. Check Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia & Malaysia.
@@rosielupita5230if anything Indonesia was far better ready then most other countries. as the whole of Asia and Europe, except for the Netherlands, we're basicly rooting for Indonesian independence. As the second world war just ended, and it was the last colony that was held by the Netherlands. And the fact that Indonesia was tactically important for all sides seeing its location. So having them independent means your enemies can't use it against you either. As well as having their favour helps in that regard. So they had no direct support but definitely no direct resistance from any non Dutch armies. To not even speak of the numbers of countries pressuring the Dutch to let it go.
RIZAL KNEW THE FILIPINOS WEREN'T READY FOR A REVOLUTION JUST YET. The question is.... What's his point of writing El Filibusterismo and Noli Me Tangere then? To awaken the Filipinos and make them realize the abuses the Spaniards are doing to the Filipinos right? Then he knew the Filipinos weren't ready for revolution? WTF...... Maybe the reason is.... HE JUST WANTED TO SELL HIS BOOKS... PURE BUSINESS PEPITO
Rizal offered two strategies.. 1. In Noli, he expressed the importance of being educated, independence can be achieved if Filipinos were given proper education. 2. In El Fili, Rizal offered revolution but there is a condition that all Filipinos would participate in the war, those who would not should be annihilated, as he itterates: "ANG AMANG DUWAG AY MAGBUBUNGA NG ANAK NA ALIPIN"
I think the peaceful/ diplomatic inspiration of Rizal is very much reflected in our society. However, I know that when pushed in a corner, Filipinos do have the same fire as Bonifacio and will not hesitate to fight back. Both have inspirational virtues and both are courageous in their own ways.
Just like our nat'l bird is maya during that time while our eagle is more majestic than theirs, national animal is carabao as a symbol of slow progress. And etc........
History major here. I learned this from one of my courses but Rizal was actually kind of contemplating a lot of times whether he should continue the "peaceful way" or abide to Bonifacio's side. You can actually see that a lot if times in the characters of Elias and Ibarra/Simon in Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo. Two characters with two different perspective. The funny thing is, his favorite character out of all the characters in both of the novels is not Ibarra but rather Elias which means, he was also thinking of the possibility of revolutionary rather than reformity because he already seen the decline and failure of La Solidaridad. Unfortunately, according to the transcript of Tavern's interview during the 1899 American conquest Rizal still suggested Bonifacio to not continue with the revolutionary because for the sake of the Filipinos, reformations was so much better and because "it's not the time yet" for revolutionary to occur.
Yes tama. Kahit gusto ni Rizal ng peaceful reforms, alam nya na inevitable na ang armed revolution. Kahit mismo kapatid nya si Paciano, isang high ranking General sa Katipunan. Si Paciano ang responsable sa pagtatanim at paghubog sa isip ng batang Rizal lahat ng injustices ng Spain. Nung lumabas ang El Filibusterismo, and tema nito ay defiance at rebellion. Nung panahon na yun ay nag uumpisa na mang ambush at mang raid ang mga Pilipino. Dahil dun inaresto ri Rizal at nung na execute sya, dun na nag umpisa ang full blown revolution. Kung wala si Rizal, wala si Bonifacio.
"If one wishes to fight, one must first count the cost." Rizal knew this, and didn't gamble the lives of his fellow men for a weak, fragile, and temporary freedom.
To be honest, I think Jose Rizal did a good job by not fighting fire with fire. Instead he used his brain, he is witty and he insulted Spaniards in a way that the spanish colonizers could never reply. He made spaniards lower their pride by words without him using a single sword.
He’s still not a hero of the Philippines then - just a guy who had a lot to say. The real hero is Andres because without him the Philippines wouldn’t be how it is now. That’s like crediting Bill Gates for Apple instead of Steve Jobs.
@@Mb-eo6bg that is your opinion. We can also say the same thing for General Luna, Lapu Lapu and many more filipinos who died for our country.. but being a hero doesnt only mean fighting physically. Sometimes you also need a brain like how McArthur is seen as a hero by other filipinos, did he fight the war? Physically no, he commanded though, so he used his brain just like Jose Rizal.
@@Mb-eo6bg do you know the most important part of war? It is not the weapons, specially during world war 1 and 2... it was the brain, alot of countries would use encouragements, stories of how they are fighting back, how they are killing invadors.. without journalist of wars who makes newspapers, soldiers and its citizens lose hopes and that is how the countries lose wars, when their dignity is in the ground... this is a good example of how Jose Rizal encourage filipinos to fight back and lower Spaniards dignity.
@@Mb-eo6bg war has always been a mind game. War always has a plan.. you can call millions of filipinos heroes because they died protecting the Philippines but we can only have one national hero, the one who actually made a huge impact during the war. The one who motivated the revolution.
In his writings, Jose Rizal highlighted the abuses and injustices committed by the Spanish authorities and officials who were assigned in the Philippines. He aimed to shed light on the mistreatment of Filipinos by those in power, exposing the corruption and oppressive practices that went against the principles of the Spanish Government. Rizal's works contributed to the awakening of national consciousness and the call for reforms in the Philippines during the Spanish colonial period.
Which he didn't get. He wanted a reform bur still under the Monarchy of Spain. He knew Filipinos weren't ready and he never wanted it. He talked about reform because the mainland Spain underwent a reform themselves. And they looked very progressive to him and wanted the same thing. Andres basically ruined all of his plans.
Rizal was a strategist. Bonifacio even lauded his idea. The latter understood what Rizal was thinking all along. The Filipinos weren't ready yet. Instead of a sure revolutionary defeat, Rizal wanted to go on diplomacy first. But he also knew that when the time comes that the Filipinos would be thinking and feeling as ONE, he thought that it would be the right time for a bloody revolution.
@@girlazenitjcagod2775 I don't think he failed, he was already inspiring many Filipinos to fight for the revolution the moment he published his writings, thus him getting executed
Rizal had always look for the bigger picture, he understands more of what will happen if the philippines had independence, it means its up for grabs, the germans and americans
Germany, Japan, and America, and to an extent, Britain would've fought for our territory. His idea of being a Autonomous Province of Spain would've prevented that happening, but it wouldnt prevent us becoming a Battlefield to Japan.
@@USSFFRU what about French and Belgium? the French Empire was trying to build a naval base in part of Mindanao in Spanish era but they didn't continue cause they dont have enough money to build naval base and the muslim people are defending. The Belgium Empire tries to buy Philippines to Queen Victoria of Spain but not enough,the Queen didn't gave Philippines to Belgium. sorry that's all i know😊
If Rizal is so smart he would likely side with Bonifacio, because the Spanish Empire is in decline during those times. Yeah, America chooses him to be our national hero. Symbolically - to tame people. A rich kid intellectual idealist.
@@crymeaariver Rizal was a pacifist, he didn't like how the KKK was going for a Violent Revolution. He wanted Filipino Freedom, He didn't like how the KKK was gonna obtain it. He's a Reformist that wanted Filipino Freedom and Equality with Spain. He wasn't a violent Revolutionary like Bonifacio, without Rizal, Bonifacio wouldn't have became a Revolutionary.
You forgot to mention that Bonifacio was inspired by Rizal and they met during a meeting of La Liga Filipina before Rizal was exiled in Dapitan. Later Dr. Pio Valenzuela was sent to convince Dr. Rizal in Dapitan to join the revolution. Dr. Rizal is not against the revolution, he simply believed that Filipinos are not yet ready. So he declined, instead he suggested that they look for Antonio Luna who studied Military Tactics and Discipline and ask for his counsel.
True... And I honestly prefer Rizals plans... If the Ph went alone other powers in the region would quickly gobble it up... And you wouldnt want the British to invade you, trust me theyre much worse than Spain...
If only Rizal and other ilustrados rallied behind Bonifacio or Luna, giving him strat and wise insights. Our country now might be better. Sad to say that the death of Rizal sparked the heart of our countrymen to revolt, the very thing He told them not to do. I say that they may be viewed as heroes now but during their days, they had different personal agenda. After 300+ years of slavery, still not the right time?
@@Zeela-ey4fq Ok, dont sling 'slavery' around so lightly... I dont think the Spanish enslaved the general citizens and populace while they were here...
People forget Rizal basically had a life built up for himself in Spain. He had European friends and shared their sensibilities. Were it not for his love for his countrymen, he could have just given up and lived a longer, happier life. The man could have had a home in Spain, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or Japan if he had so wanted--the doors of the world are always open to polymaths, but he chose to come back to his sorry homeland and got himself executed for his troubles. After that, it's the nation's turn to determine whether or not his sacrifice was worth it in the end.
Nooooooo 😅 he never wanted us to be separated from Spain. Again, as mentioned in the video, he absolutely wanted a reform not independence. He knew we couldn't do it and he was right! Mainland Spain underwent a total reform and he saw all that. That's what he was asking. Unfortunately, Andres tried to pursue him to join in the revolution as the "utak ng katipunan" but he refused. But Andrew idolized him so much that he included his name as one of the leaders of the revolution. That's why Spain was lured into thinking it was Rizal's idea. In fact, Rizal was already planning on going to Cuba. Andres ruined all of it. This is why Rizal was actually talking about the Spanish language as our wika and not Tagalog. Learned this from my Rizal Professor back in College. Super fascinating! 👌🏼
also, one of the many reasons they chose Rizal was because of the books that he published. that's why he's well known and his history still thrives. he used his pen rather than the sword.
The big bad traitor, killed Antonio Luna one of his finest generals, hell the only true general and he massacre him and his brother, Aguilnaldo shouldn't be a hero he's a traitor
The main reason why the philippine failed to secure its freedom ... Killed too many Revolutionaries who is more heroic and patriotic than that fake first
I love them both. I'm always in awe how people back then have drive and motivation to fought for their country. Meanwhile, people nowadays just want the easier road all the time, this includes me. I don't have the energy to argue with anyone anymore.
right. and the people who are fighting for equal rights on the streets (activists) just like how these men did in the past are being called as "rebels" and "terrorist". that's why Philippines will never get the true Independence, yet.
@@crymeaariver actually what Rizal wanted was for the best interest of the Philippines citizens. If we became an autonomous region of a big power such as spain back then. The other countries would think twice invading the "region" Had we our early freedom from the spaniards would meant the other powers invading us non stop. we got our freedom not in the perfect time but enough for us to become slightly independent but other countries took hold of the governance via the puppet presidents and bogus enrichment programs. The autonomizing of the region might've saved a good chunk of the Philippines people from japanese occupation but also could have prevented american occupation as well but since Philippines didn't become an autonomous region but stayed as a colonized territory. Selling us off wasn't a problem. Our lives would've been much worse if KKK sought freedom too early because patriotic killers tend to bear communistic amongst young educated rich kids. My best example was pol pot. Ravaged by rampant crime and horrible living conditions because of colonization and early independence. the whole place was a mess and was anarchy and royals that couldn't do much but flee elsewhere. Idealistic young men banded together and formed a communist/socialist era that is a total nightmare
@@crymeaariver that rich kid you're talking about just helped people cure illness/disease as a doctor including her mother, teaching a number of youth how to read and write while outcast in dapitan, all of w/c did in pure charitable act. That isn't a privileged person would do back in the day and if they do it's illegal under Spanish rule to uplift Filipinos including how to build their mindset w/o their consent esp. their consent mind you.
Rizal's novels inspired Bonifacio to be a revolutionist. In a way, that still makes Rizal the most influential hero between the two. Hell, my Jose Rizal prof in college used that as their arguing point why Rizal will always be Philippines' national hero.
That completely makes sense, because Bonifacio will never have the patriotism he had because of Rizal. Before reading the book Bonifacio life is not easy he has his own busy life supporting his siblings his first priorities and his life. Until he has a change of heart when he met rizal
@@darkflamemaster6541Bonifacio was a poor guy who lived the full brunt of discrimination and hardship of commoner life under the spanish rule, it was a real life motivation greater than any novel or make believe works Rizal on the other hand is a rich kid who lived overseas and didn't really experience spanish cruelty and had all the luxury of time writing novels while hundreds of filipinos are dying You people undervalue the hardworks of people who actually do the actions for change, you prefer drama and dramatic backstories more
@@alfonseradorimperial642 And you also pretty much severely underestimated and belittled the struggles, empathy, and power of those rich kids, just because they're rich. In lots of former colonial countries it was those class of first foreign educated rich kids who ignited and organized effective resistance. The US founding fathers were very significant intellectuals, most with privileged educational background. The first batches of Indonesian revolutionaries also had similar privileged backgrounds, being educated in STOVIA, THS, or the Netherlands. Sun Yat Sen was a medical doctor, Gandhi came from a peivileged lawyer family, Nehru also came from similar background. Mao Zedong was a son of a wealthy farmer. Engels and Marx was, despite their writings, very privileged ppl of their time. Not that familiar w ph history but still, no need to belittle either of them. Anyone could take a gun and point it at someone but very few could make "make believe" works which could convince someone to actually do that.
@@alfonseradorimperial642You failed to realize that most Filipino revolutionaries are from middle class land renting Families. Why is that? It's because of their capacity to launch a revoution. A revolution also benefits them the most because they will get rid of the Church that owns their lands and to whom the are paying rent to. It will not diminish Bonifacio's importance nor will it elevate him. Those who fought for the independence of our motherland must be revered equally, regardless of their background. Rizal and Bonifacio, and others too, are worthy of being called National heroes, there is no reason to only have one or two.
Nostalgia! I made a term paper centralizing on this topic back in 3rd year college, and it was worth the research since I got enlightened by the true history of the Philippines.
Both Rizal and Bonifacio wanted positive change and a better life for their people. The means for that better life is where they differed. While Rizal thought that a better life for Filipinos would be achieved with Spain, Bonifacio though that a better life for Filipinos would be achieved without it. At the end of the day, both of their causes were animated by a spirit of patriotism.
Bonifacio was one of the people whom Rizal inspired. As a matter of fact, he was a member of the short-lived La Liga Filipina which was established by the latter. Rizal thought that they were not yet ready for an arm struggle, that all of their efforts will only go in vain if they fail.
Rizal's plan was underrated and misinterpreted by many Filipinos during that time. The reason why he persuades Spain to make the Philippines one of its provinces is simply because if that happens, all the laws and rights of Spain will also be applied to their territory including the citizens rights which was the main goal of him to have each and everyone stand an equal footing in the society with the pure citizens of Spain.
Err no. Reform is the dream of Marcelo and Graciano. Rizal is just a guest to their house who are willing to please the 2 so they can help Rizal to distribute his Noli Me Tangere to a wider audience.
@@alexonorep5978 that's a part of it, but based on what we've study regarding the history, it is one of the goals of Rizal to persuade Spain and get the same rights right after we become part of their province.
@@bernardleomo9597 Ahh so you're saying that Rizal is naive and doesn't know that Philippines is not a mere colony of Spain but already a province of Spain? and because of that the Spaniards are willing to die to defend their ownership over this territory? You know the demand for equal rights is not hard earned only if the Filipinos are white skinned like the Spaniards, isn't it? You can demand for equal rights even without telling the Spaniards that we should become a province. Accept the fact that we're different from the Spaniards racially and you can have your concept of province together with your peers and professors but asking who are the real naives here I would gladly say it wasn't Doctor Jose Rizal.
@@bernardleomo9597 Just remember that our country is named after a Spanish King. So our towns also and the streets that ply their routes many are named similar to the ones you can find in Spain till this day.
Peninsulares and Insulares were both Spaniards with the same looks and culture but don’t have the same rights, how much more to a mestizo or Indio? Rizal over Bonifacio? I go for the latter as he was more nationalistic. That’s my honest opinion.
In my opinion. Both of them should be the national hero. Both of them played a big part in history. They may have different views on how to achieve freedom but they still helped us gain it.
Unfortunately, there's no national hero in the Philippines as per the 1987 constitution, it's not written there. It's just brought up by American colonialism and we buy it up to this exact same day.
I’m amaze because of how cool the history of the Philipines is. It’s like reading a well written story, small discussion like this talking about how deep the character of Phillipine’s national hero is the thing that make it’s cool. Kudos from your neighbor Indonesia🇲🇨
Both of them are wonderful and followed their own belief with their people in mind. Both of them are rebel in their different ways and it's inspiring. Connect the pieces together and you will see how many possibilities humanity can rebel against oppressors. You can try diplomacy, yes. But there will be time when you will need to stand up and fight. It's all a matter of balancing and timing.
Not to downgrade Andres Bonifacio, his bravery was unlike no other. But independence would never be achieved by violence and rebellion. Rizal considered the future of the next generations. He knew if the Philippines embraced rebellion, the next generations will be forced to continue what had been started.. Rizal advocated not just love for the country but to prioritize education as well, and in order to achieve this, we need to choose peace and accept help from other nations..
``independence would never be achieved by violence and rebellion`` This is false, no independence movement was achieved without violence. Even the most popular independence movements always have a violent revolution running along side with it.
I wouldn't think about it that way. Independence is won when the colonial power no longer has power or interests in the colony. Armed revolution is merely a means to incur losses such that the colonial power would not be able to sustain their rule over the colony. That is exactly what the Philippine Revolution did, albeit aided greatly by the United States' war against Spain. But of course, the Yanks became our new colonial masters right after. They knew, however, that long term rule over the islands would be unsustainable in the near future, and they would eventually have to grant us independence to cut their losses.
I feel deeply for Gat Andres. I believe he was supposed to be the ideal Filipino, hardworking, intelligent and resilient. I feel bad that he doesn’t get enough recognition he deserves asides from the bolo and revolution. He wasn’t corrupt and his morals are high. I feel bad that his downfall was from his fellow Filipinos. There wasn’t any competition between him and Rizal, it was between him and Aguinaldo. And damn, my heart still cries for his undeserved fate. He should have been the first Philippine president. 😞
Hindi porke rebolusyon ang pinili ay hindi nag-iisip ang mga lumahok nito. Ang rebolusyon ay pinag-iisipan nang maigi at pinagpaplanuhan ito upang maging matagumpay ang bawat hakbang. Kung titingnan natin, nagtagumpay ang rebolusyon ni Bonifacio ngunit ito ay mabilis na inagaw at binawi ng mga kolonyalista mula sa Amerika. Pansinin mo - pinili ng mga Amerikano ang ating pambansang bayani kaya magtaka ka na sa ganyan pa lang hmm 🤨🤔
One of our heroes but not official yet. Wala pa po tayong batas kung sino/sino-sino ang ating national hero(officially). Kasi nga hindi makapagdecide ang mga Filipinos
@@kamote1935 Yes I just googled it. We were taught that Jose Rizal was our National Hero , we even had a course in college called Rizal at Panitikan. Now I realize that its just a public acclamation. Well , I definitely agree in choosing him as a national hero.
because Jose Rizal knew that the Philippines was not ready for Independence, this is also the reason why he killed the main character Simoun in the novel El Filibusterismo
@@jiyoo6109 when reforms are made. Systems shapes behavior. Good system breeds healthy democracy. Bad system breeds disgusting corruption. That's what it is. When we gained independence, what happened? That's the answer. Rizal is a bright man. He knew what you and me can never understand.
@@jiyoo6109 idealistic? Its common sense and practical. Dfq are you spouting. You thought of having our freedom will lead us to a better system? No, because most of the filipinos are illiterate, very few were able to have an opportunity to access education at his time.
Both paved way for the Philippine's Independence. It doesn't really matter who people sees as heroes, their achievement cannot be denied-both paid with their sweat and blood, let them rest.
A hero offers sacrifices, and I believe Andres Bonifacio made the bigger sacrifice between the two since Jose Rizal was too vulnerable with his family; I think he didn't want to die upon his execution, whereas Andres was willing to. It isn't correct to say that Jose Rizal is justified to still be the national hero just because he inspired the Katipuneros, including Andres Bonifacio. When you think about it, revolution would still happen without Jose Rizal because he isn't the only one who wrote against the Spaniards. It was just a matter of time. His death just made it sooner. Besides, in the moon landing it was the astronauts that were praised more than the team behind the mission. Because it was the scariest part of it. Likewise, Andres Bonifacio who had direct involvement in the revolution is worthy of more praise than Jose Rizal; This wouldn't affect Jose Rizal's heroism anyway. It will also encourage the Filipinos to take part, not just commenting their opinions but also having direct involvement with the patriotism we are currently faking to have.
@@MementoMori1001 your comment doesn't sound like an argument. People only still insist Jose Rizal as the national hero by default. What considered heroes today is nearer by definition to Andres Bonifacio. Get away, troll... 😮💨
@arthurnolasco185 Americans were the one who chose the Philippines' National hero which is Jose Rizal. They chose him since compared to Andres Bonifacio who seeks freedom through fighting and revolution, Jose Rizal wanted the Philippines to be part of Spain and be treated equally and he showed it through means of writing. In which case for the Americans who recently occupied the Philippines chose Rizal as it seemed to promote equality rather than a full out battle for revolution which Andres Bonifacio was known for.
If that's the case, why did the Japanese also brought up Rizal to rally Filipinos around as a prophet of Pan-Asianism instead of Bonfacio, na na-snub ng mga radical na secret society ng mha Hapon nung panahon noua
@@rowenanardo343 These are my notes from school, so if there are any inaccuracies, please correct me. August 23, 1896, -Pagpunit ng sedula -Sigaw ng pugad lawin August 29, 1896, Six days after, sumugod ang mga katipunero sa: Mandaluyong, Pandacan, Pasig, at San Juan Del Monte (marami ang namatay.) Sa lahat, hindi sila nagtagumpay.
Dr. Jose Rizal was a strong advocate for reforms within the Spanish colonial system, his primary goal was not complete independence. He sought assimilation of the Philippines as a province of Spain, with Filipinos enjoying equal rights and representation. Andres Bonifacio, on the other hand, was a staunch advocate for Philippine independence. He founded the Katipunan, a revolutionary society dedicated to overthrowing Spanish rule and establishing a sovereign Filipino nation.
If Britain had retained control of the Philippines back in the 1760's, I think the Philippines would be a much better place today. That said, a lot of Filipinos had a heart like bonifacio and de Luna back then. Not only did we win the Philippine revolutionary war, we also fought the USA, a blossoming superpower, to a standstill. Hell, the M1911 pistol was designed because of the Philippine American war, as the colt revolvers used by American officers did not have enough rounds or enough stopping power to put a Filipino down.
Even Aquinaldo, despite being the leader of the revolution, professed his love for Spain to the point he was accused of being a Collaborator. Maybe the Americans choose Rizal to be the National Hero but even the Katipunan respected Rizal. Besides, the American preference for Rizal proved appropriate. Rizal had international stature and deserve to be our National Hero.
Love your videos. Thank you for educating the young and reminding the old very memorable things about our history. THings we forget or forget to teach nowadays. Please continue to give more educated and historically correct information about our past! More power to your channel!
@@user-up9lu1zi4r Sorry I don't fully understand you because I can't read filipino. I have to say though, as a wiki contributor for years, most of it is accurate and have sources. The vandalism are made by idiots and trolls, they get banned easily.
Sana naging part na lang ng spain, wala namang nangyari sa pinaglaban na rebolosyon eh kapwa pilipino pa ang kumulong sa atin sa kahirapan 😢😢😢😢 Shout out sa inyo mga corrupt politicians
El Filibusterismo Sinulat ni Jose Rizal "Anó kayó sa araw ng̃ búkas? Bayang walâng budhî, bansâng walâng kalayàan; ang lahát ng̃ tagláy ninyó’y pawàng hirám, sampû ng̃ inyóng mg̃a kasiràan. ¡ ¡Humihing̃î kayóng magíng parang kastilà at hindî kayó namumutlâ sa kahihiyan kung ipagkaít sa inyó! At kahit na ipagkaloob sa inyó ¿anó ang inyóng hang̃ád? ¿anó ang inyóng mátatamó? Maligaya na kayó kung magíng bayan ng̃ pag-aalsá, bayan ng̃ mg̃a digmâan ng̃ mg̃a magkababayan, repúblika ng̃ mg̃a mangdaragít at di nasisiyaháng loób na kagaya ng̃ iláng repúblika sa timog ng̃ Amérika! ¿Anó ang layon ninyó sa pagtuturò ng̃ wikàng kastilà; hang̃ád na kahiyahiyâ kung hindî lamang nápakasamâ ang ibubung̃a? ¡Ibig ninyóng dagdagán ng̃ isá pang wikà ang apat na pû’t kung ilán pang ginagamit sa Kapulùan upang huwag kayóng lalòng magkaantiluhan!." Tayo lang ang nagnais na maging malapit sa mga Kastila. Dahil ang mga Kastila, Latin America ang nais nilang lipatan upang manirahan, hindi Pilipinas. Iyon ang dahilan kung bakit di tayo natutong magsalita ng kastla La libertad de comercio en las islas Filipinas, por Don Manuel Azcárraga y Palmero. Madrid, Impr. de J. Noguera, 1871 "Given that America (Spanish America) was closer and the climate condition in America was better, the land immense and fertile, no matter how large and active the Spanish nation had been, it was not possible there would have been vigor left to serve the remote provinces of Asia, and today we are seeing emigrations from the Cantabrian coast to Buenos Aires and other places where the conditions are known to the European farmers, and where nowhere else can a wider field be presented to the entrepreneurial geniuses.""
I think you said it very well. This is also what my teacher told us when we are high school. Americano ang nag proclaim kay Rizal na national hero natin kasi strategy nila yun para hindi maulit sakanila yung revolution. Since si Bonifacio ay sign ng tapang ayaw nila na matapang ang mga pinoy. Atleast pag si Rizal ang hero natin peace muna ang iisipin natin base sa history natin.
No amount of dictation or legislation from the colonizers would have installed Jose Rizal as a national hero in the deepest meaning of that title. Rizal became the national hero in the hearts and minds of the Filipino people who rallied behind his principles of a Filipino liberty and nationhood.
Jose Rizal deserves to be the National Hero because he was in Europe and had the advantage of observing Spain and their plans for the Philippines. He encouraged the Filipinos to fight because he knew Spain was planning to sell the Philippines to America for $20 million. If it wasn’t for him Andres Bonifacio, Apolonario Mabini, Juan and Antonio Luna wouldn’t be able to plan well for the revolution.
Hindi lang Naman si Rizal ang nag inspire Kay Andress take note mahilig magbasa ng libro si Andress nabasa nya din ang tungkol sa American and french revolution at Nung Nakita niya MISMO na pinatay ang 3 pari marami pang ibang masyado kayong naka focus Kay Rizal na kesyo Hindi mag rebolusyon si Andress kung di dahil Kay rizal
Lol pinag sasabi nitong alam nya ang plano ng Spain to sell. Ano yun chismis sa lansangan yung pag benta sa Pilipinas. Mofo with or without Rizal lalayas ang Spain dahil natatalo sila sa gyera and they hindi na nila afford i maintain ang Philippines
Well it was Noli Mi Tangere that sparked the start of Katipunan. So at some point Katipunan was like the fan-group of 'idol' Jose Rizal - I mean, you're not even allowed to join unless you have read Rizal's novels. 😅
They also used Rizal's name to recruit people.. resulting to Rizal's execution. BTW, Antonio Luna was also implicated and imprisoned.. he stand as a witness against Rizal and was exiled, imprisoned in Spain. Surprisingly was released and studied 'MILITARY TACTICS" in Europe. He has many military books with him when he went back to the Philippines to prove he was an expert on that field. Imagine your general's major military experienced taken from BOOKs.
While I digitalize my great-grandfather's journal from 1945, Lt Melecio said: "...There is nothing more glorious in every red-blooded soldier than to die in the fields of battle for the defense of their native land. They fought valiantly and courageously worthy of immolation for a cause which they honestly believe to be their rightful duty. The golden memory is brilliantly alive in the spirit of these unfortunate heroes."
Actually the reason WHY RIZAL was our national hero because he fought in a peaceful way, since Filipinos chose him so because he was calm. and Filipino's want people to know that we are calm. We dont want people know that we are dangerous whatsoever. The American didn't chose Rizal, it was us.
And you don't have know more about Rizal like why their child died in the night was born if you know that do you considered that as heroism and also do you considered our National Hero was a Gambler and Drinker and Chick boy
As much as I like Andres Bonifacio more, I agree with Dr. Jose Rizal. Philippines at the time was simply very much not ready yet, so the only most plausible way for Filipinos to stand a chance is to survive while learning about identity and nationalism.
@@___Anakin.Skywalker that isnt the only time he betrayed a fellow country men , antonio luna was betrayed by him the last general to actually fight for Philippine independence
@@___Anakin.Skywalker it's not manly and dignified to kill someone using schemes, it's a cowardly move. he was too scared to fight fair and square. people with the most power r always the ones who fear the most.
Growing up, I remember my history teacher told us that one reason why Rizal was chosen over Bonifacio was because of their way of dying. Rizal didn't flinch when he was killed. Bonifacio begged to not be killed.
Tbf he was ordered to be killed and was killed by the very own revolution he created (literally his very own people). And he was his brother who is also ordered to be executed with him. While begging he called them 'kapatid' (brothers) cause again he was killed by his own Filipino people who he trust would stand beside him. While Rizal was killed by the colonizers (tho yes the ones who are holding the guns are Filipinos but the order was from Spain). I equally respect both heroes and even Rizal and bonifacio despite having different views are known to respect eachother, so it does pain me to see that Andres' very tragic death is being depicted this way without fair context, he didn't begged to the enemies he begged to his own people thinking they should have eachothers back
This is also the reason why we commemorate bonifacio's birthday instead of his death unlike Rizal where we commemorate his death. Cause bonifacio's death was betrayal from our own Filipino people which is pure tragic while Rizal's death was tragic yet also something to be proud of like Rizal standing proud before our enemies
Just like Gandhi and Netaji. The former was the pioneer of non-violence and the other a revolutionary in India's fight against the British. The former became a hero the latter died in isolation. Nevertheless they complimented each other.
I remember during our subject in college about rizal's life.. Rizal was driven by his intelligence while Bonifacio was driven by his emotions mainly hatred towards the spaniards, he wanted to fight them fist to fist. Rizal and his family was supposed to flee to borneo to live in peace but spaniards found an illegal document in his sister's baggage. This was the reason why rizal was held in captive and then later on executed. Rizal was very respected despite his small frame that when arrested, soldiers hesitated to touch him and lead him to his cell. Rizal definitely deserved to be a national hero. He fought them through noli and el fili. He was ready to reveal the crimes of prayles to the filipinos and the intention of spaniards in our islands back then. He only halted and backed out when he learned that his mother was punished - they made her walk from laguna (forgot the end point) but it was really really far. Spaniards went too far as they started attacking Rizal's family. They wanted Rizal to come back to the Philippines so they can arrest him. His mother is his wake up call as he can't let them punish his old and weak mother anymore. Rizal realized filipinos cannot stand a chance against spaniards. He went back to ph and planned on leaving the country along with his whole family. But then, this never happen as they got him arrested and executed. Rizal's death sparked revolution led by bonifacio.
Imagine a colonizer (US) declaring a national hero for a colony (Philippines). To date there is no law or proclamation declaring any national hero of the Philippines.
@@richardranido377 But the thing is that Rizal's books inspired Bonifacio to rebel against spain, and Rizal's death is their signal to do all of it. But i also agree that Bonifacio did more for the Philippines than Rizal, Until Aguinaldo killed him 😔
@@cesarlopez-fw8gv Kasi nga American Ang Ng choice n Gawin national hero si Rizal Kasi Kun c Bonifacio bka matutu tyu na kalabanin cla that time kc sakop tyu nn Americano
It would be amazing to see their statues back to back to each other, since the both of them really played a crucial role in the history of the Philippines.
Rizal saw what happened when colonies had early revolutions against their empires. I mean Haiti today is still one of the poorest and corrupt, unstable countries today.
@M Ong I think it is possible that Philippine can self sufficient itself even if it breaks away from the Spaniards. The country is literally in the middle of the trade route between China, Japan, Malaya and Jawa. Not to mention the spice trade as well. The problem with Haiti is that the French made that island to only produce sugar cane and that is the only thing the plantation slaves or Haitian had ever known to do.
@@aaronlimeuchin7352 that is true but Malaya, java , china, were under the rule of the U.S and Spaniards allies. Haiti was excluded from the rest of the world's economy, with the rest of their neighbors being colonizers or colonies opposed to them. This would be the same for the Philippines
By design. Haiti is still punished today for being the only sucessful slave revolt that created a nation. Bad take, unless you're arguing that Rizal feared punishment.
@@leonfrancis3418 not just Haiti but also many in Latin America and Africa where political instability and corruption rules despite having a successful "revolution" which actually did nothing but change the people's oppressor into from foreigners to their own people
@@mung1233 I agreed partially with your statement, and there is one mistake to your statement. China was not colonized by the British and it's allies, not in entirety. Only the strategic parts of China such as Hong Kong and the Liaodong Peninsula, etc got colonized by the Western Powers. Moreover, Philippine is a huge nation compared to Haiti and it is 11 times bigger than Haiti. Not to mention it had many islands as well. Therefore, it also had lots of resources and people. Haiti had virtually nothing when compared with Philippine. Even if Philippine cannot rely on international trade, they still can trade among their own people. It is not entirely square one for the Philippines.
I guess Jose Rizal would still be our national hero because he would choose something peaceful. He would not opt for something violent because our nation would be weak against Spain. Even if we win,what will be our outcome.
He knew that even if a Revolution would work, we wouldn't be ready in the slightest in a turbulent Political Climate. Japan to the North, The Dutch and Brits to the South, The French in the East, Qing China to the Northeast, Germany to the Southeast, America to the East. Our Geography may be good, but it cursed us as we were in between every last Great Power.
@@USSFFRU true if only Bonifacio and KKK didn't fight against the Spaniards our ancestors will not suffer a great loss especially during WW2. Rizal knew.
Rizal is a hero.. He chose to use what he can so that Filipinos can have a similar starting point because lets be real even if after the revolution what would happen next.. Just go back to old times?.. I firmly believe that Rizal was looking at the Future while Andres Bonifacio was looking at the present. .
@@rejiequimiguing3739 Maybe your definition of hero and mine are different...btw I dont account who made who a hero but their qualities and I just hypothesize what their plan for the future was..
From what I learned in college, Rizal wasn't entirely against a violent uprising. In fact in his conversation with Dr. Pio Valenzuela during his exile in Dapitan, he explicitly made suggestions to Valenzuela what steps to do if an uprising must be ignited. This includes seeking aid and support from the upper class Filipinos at the time, including Antonio Luna, because of their connections and because they can become a threat if they find out that the Revolutionaries are very unarmed. That said, Also, he mentioned Valenzuela of his plan to visit Cuba to aid as a medical doctor for the military. He wanted to use the opportunity to study the revolution tactics in the ongoing fights in Cuba and perhaps learn from it and apply to the Philippine Revolution itself. That said, the narrative behind "Rizal vs Bonifacio" or "Reform vs Revolution" is very disheartening because both parts played crucial roles with each other during their time.
@@mochiyomi7464 pfftt luna and rizal almost killed each other because of women yes but about rizal's execution it is because katipuneros admire rizal and made rizal as an honorary president , and when Spaniards raided one of the bases of bonifacio they saw Rizal's picture and so Rizal was convicted as one of the leader of KKK..stop saying baseless statements.. I joined a quiz bee about Life and works of Rizal so don't me🙂
Rizal was a brilliant thinker and was ahead of anybody in analyzing the geopolitical importance of the Philippines in the world politics. His present critics consider him as traitor and hail Andres Bonifacio as the real hero. There shouldn’t be a conflict in the idea that both wanted nothing but freedom from the abuses of the Spanish colonizer. Bonifacio was for the armed struggle but Rizal was for a more peaceful way.
Exactly 💯 percent truth...! If only they knew how Americans make propaganda to destroy nations so that they can take their resources... Just like Iraq Libya etc....
Rizal was not a reformist, at least in his latter years. His early critiques on Philippine society were aimed at the friar establishment, and he advocated mother Spain to address the corruption of the friars. He later realized that the friar problem was a symptom of the bigger disease: Spanish colonialism itself. This is why despite his reservations on the timing of the Philippine Revolution, he looked favorably upon it. These are evident in his later works and statements, even subtly in Mi Ultimo Adios. It's in this reason that the revolution waged on, not despite Rizal but because of him. Americans "sponsored" the veneration of Rizal because he was already a hero to Filipinos, but their propaganda of Rizal painted him as the pacifist we mistake him for today. There is a paper by Floro Quibuyen entitled "Rizal and the Revolution" that explains all of this in detail.
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They both played a part. They both deserve a place in history. They both captured our imagination and they both inspired us towards nationhood
Agree!Very well said.
Sometimes history is possibly just a scheme meant to fool the ones who read it.
You were raised to think that way
I agree
Yeah is better if they put side by side like Rizal on other side on the Bonifacio and the third side is silang
Rizal knew that Filipinos weren't ready for a revolution just yet.
No country is "ready" after independence from a colonizer. Check how USA performed after 1776. Check south American countries after independence from Spain and Portugal. Check Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia & Malaysia.
@@rosielupita5230if anything Indonesia was far better ready then most other countries. as the whole of Asia and Europe, except for the Netherlands, we're basicly rooting for Indonesian independence. As the second world war just ended, and it was the last colony that was held by the Netherlands. And the fact that Indonesia was tactically important for all sides seeing its location. So having them independent means your enemies can't use it against you either. As well as having their favour helps in that regard. So they had no direct support but definitely no direct resistance from any non Dutch armies. To not even speak of the numbers of countries pressuring the Dutch to let it go.
RIZAL KNEW THE FILIPINOS WEREN'T READY FOR A REVOLUTION JUST YET.
The question is....
What's his point of writing El Filibusterismo and Noli Me Tangere then?
To awaken the Filipinos and make them realize the abuses the Spaniards are doing to the Filipinos right?
Then he knew the Filipinos weren't ready for revolution?
WTF......
Maybe the reason is.... HE JUST WANTED TO SELL HIS BOOKS...
PURE BUSINESS PEPITO
They did pretty considering how hard it was on their numbers
@@jonascreations2119 show proof that Dr. Jose Rizal sold his books and made profit, and royalties given to his family.
Rizal offered two strategies.. 1. In Noli, he expressed the importance of being educated, independence can be achieved if Filipinos were given proper education. 2. In El Fili, Rizal offered revolution but there is a condition that all Filipinos would participate in the war, those who would not should be annihilated, as he itterates: "ANG AMANG DUWAG AY MAGBUBUNGA NG ANAK NA ALIPIN"
You nailed it man. Not many Filipinos who studied history understood this.
this should be pinned
Exactly!
Sa madaling salita: wag pairalin ang tapang, kung walang konkretong plano.
Salamat.
I think the peaceful/ diplomatic inspiration of Rizal is very much reflected in our society. However, I know that when pushed in a corner, Filipinos do have the same fire as Bonifacio and will not hesitate to fight back. Both have inspirational virtues and both are courageous in their own ways.
😍🙌🇵🇭
I think lapu-lapu deserve it even more he fought and defeated the spaniards. Both of Rizal and Bonifacio defeated none of there enemies.
Yeah. Same as goes when we dealing in west phil sea. Always diplomatic protest. We have to be bonfiacio sometimes
Just like our nat'l bird is maya during that time while our eagle is more majestic than theirs, national animal is carabao as a symbol of slow progress. And etc........
Will that fire really show? When the Chinese is securing the west Philippine sea and immigrating in the Philippines secretly?
History major here. I learned this from one of my courses but Rizal was actually kind of contemplating a lot of times whether he should continue the "peaceful way" or abide to Bonifacio's side. You can actually see that a lot if times in the characters of Elias and Ibarra/Simon in Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo. Two characters with two different perspective. The funny thing is, his favorite character out of all the characters in both of the novels is not Ibarra but rather Elias which means, he was also thinking of the possibility of revolutionary rather than reformity because he already seen the decline and failure of La Solidaridad.
Unfortunately, according to the transcript of Tavern's interview during the 1899 American conquest Rizal still suggested Bonifacio to not continue with the revolutionary because for the sake of the Filipinos, reformations was so much better and because "it's not the time yet" for revolutionary to occur.
Yes tama. Kahit gusto ni Rizal ng peaceful reforms, alam nya na inevitable na ang armed revolution. Kahit mismo kapatid nya si Paciano, isang high ranking General sa Katipunan. Si Paciano ang responsable sa pagtatanim at paghubog sa isip ng batang Rizal lahat ng injustices ng Spain. Nung lumabas ang El Filibusterismo, and tema nito ay defiance at rebellion. Nung panahon na yun ay nag uumpisa na mang ambush at mang raid ang mga Pilipino. Dahil dun inaresto ri Rizal at nung na execute sya, dun na nag umpisa ang full blown revolution. Kung wala si Rizal, wala si Bonifacio.
Thank you so much for this. I learned this in high school but kind of forgot about it. Thanks for reminding 🥹
nice
@@blonkshunter5252 so?
Thankyou po!
"If one wishes to fight, one must first count the cost."
Rizal knew this, and didn't gamble the lives of his fellow men for a weak, fragile, and temporary freedom.
Wow it's a quote from Sun Tzu.
pnoy parin panalo kaya dpat lang tlga lumaban...
.. conquered for over a cost of 3h yrs, isn't that long overdue ? as if you wanna add more another 3h .. wtf
@@rigelkent8828 really
And it cost him his life instead rather than the majority.
To be honest, I think Jose Rizal did a good job by not fighting fire with fire. Instead he used his brain, he is witty and he insulted Spaniards in a way that the spanish colonizers could never reply. He made spaniards lower their pride by words without him using a single sword.
Yeah ,Rizal deserve the national Hero .
He’s still not a hero of the Philippines then - just a guy who had a lot to say. The real hero is Andres because without him the Philippines wouldn’t be how it is now. That’s like crediting Bill Gates for Apple instead of Steve Jobs.
@@Mb-eo6bg that is your opinion. We can also say the same thing for General Luna, Lapu Lapu and many more filipinos who died for our country.. but being a hero doesnt only mean fighting physically. Sometimes you also need a brain like how McArthur is seen as a hero by other filipinos, did he fight the war? Physically no, he commanded though, so he used his brain just like Jose Rizal.
@@Mb-eo6bg do you know the most important part of war? It is not the weapons, specially during world war 1 and 2... it was the brain, alot of countries would use encouragements, stories of how they are fighting back, how they are killing invadors.. without journalist of wars who makes newspapers, soldiers and its citizens lose hopes and that is how the countries lose wars, when their dignity is in the ground... this is a good example of how Jose Rizal encourage filipinos to fight back and lower Spaniards dignity.
@@Mb-eo6bg war has always been a mind game. War always has a plan.. you can call millions of filipinos heroes because they died protecting the Philippines but we can only have one national hero, the one who actually made a huge impact during the war. The one who motivated the revolution.
In his writings, Jose Rizal highlighted the abuses and injustices committed by the Spanish authorities and officials who were assigned in the Philippines. He aimed to shed light on the mistreatment of Filipinos by those in power, exposing the corruption and oppressive practices that went against the principles of the Spanish Government. Rizal's works contributed to the awakening of national consciousness and the call for reforms in the Philippines during the Spanish colonial period.
Which he didn't get. He wanted a reform bur still under the Monarchy of Spain. He knew Filipinos weren't ready and he never wanted it. He talked about reform because the mainland Spain underwent a reform themselves. And they looked very progressive to him and wanted the same thing. Andres basically ruined all of his plans.
And now filipino is under and will be still a spaniard ruled and influenced.
@@paulayvonnealbao567 Bonifacio stray 😭
Rizal was a strategist. Bonifacio even lauded his idea. The latter understood what Rizal was thinking all along. The Filipinos weren't ready yet. Instead of a sure revolutionary defeat, Rizal wanted to go on diplomacy first. But he also knew that when the time comes that the Filipinos would be thinking and feeling as ONE, he thought that it would be the right time for a bloody revolution.
Jose Rizal did try diplomacy, but he failed and got executed by the Spaniards that causes Filipinos to rebel.
@@girlazenitjcagod2775 well-said
@@girlazenitjcagod2775 I don't think he failed, he was already inspiring many Filipinos to fight for the revolution the moment he published his writings, thus him getting executed
@@girlazenitjcagod2775 He didn’t fail as everything did start upon his death.
Rizal had always look for the bigger picture, he understands more of what will happen if the philippines had independence, it means its up for grabs, the germans and americans
Germany, Japan, and America, and to an extent, Britain would've fought for our territory. His idea of being a Autonomous Province of Spain would've prevented that happening, but it wouldnt prevent us becoming a Battlefield to Japan.
@@USSFFRU what about French and Belgium?
the French Empire was trying to build a naval base in part of Mindanao in Spanish era but they didn't continue cause they dont have enough money to build naval base and the muslim people are defending.
The Belgium Empire tries to buy Philippines to Queen Victoria of Spain but not enough,the Queen didn't gave Philippines to Belgium.
sorry that's all i know😊
@@mollymargalouebeltran2228 France would be way more concerned over Germany than us in the Philippines.
Belgium was content with the Congo anyway
If Rizal is so smart he would likely side with Bonifacio, because the Spanish Empire is in decline during those times. Yeah, America chooses him to be our national hero. Symbolically - to tame people. A rich kid intellectual idealist.
@@crymeaariver Rizal was a pacifist, he didn't like how the KKK was going for a Violent Revolution. He wanted Filipino Freedom, He didn't like how the KKK was gonna obtain it.
He's a Reformist that wanted Filipino Freedom and Equality with Spain. He wasn't a violent Revolutionary like Bonifacio, without Rizal, Bonifacio wouldn't have became a Revolutionary.
You forgot to mention that Bonifacio was inspired by Rizal and they met during a meeting of La Liga Filipina before Rizal was exiled in Dapitan. Later Dr. Pio Valenzuela was sent to convince Dr. Rizal in Dapitan to join the revolution. Dr. Rizal is not against the revolution, he simply believed that Filipinos are not yet ready. So he declined, instead he suggested that they look for Antonio Luna who studied Military Tactics and Discipline and ask for his counsel.
But both Luna and Bonifacio back stab by aguinaldo cause Rizal is not there the person he fear
ang dami plot twistt hahahahahah di tinuro sa school hahaha
and Rizal didn't even know he was the password of LLF, if it was me I wouldve felt betrayed
@Trish Gaming Veb tinuro yan sa Highschool. Maaring di mo lang nahagilap o tinamad lang yung teacher mo magturo.
Tama yan kaya mahaba haba ang kwento ng rizal na yan kasi yang laliga ang naging climax ng libro
Its easy to complain and become a rebel. Anyone can do that. But to be wise and able to control your emotions, that is much more challenging.
True... And I honestly prefer Rizals plans... If the Ph went alone other powers in the region would quickly gobble it up... And you wouldnt want the British to invade you, trust me theyre much worse than Spain...
If only Rizal and other ilustrados rallied behind Bonifacio or Luna, giving him strat and wise insights. Our country now might be better. Sad to say that the death of Rizal sparked the heart of our countrymen to revolt, the very thing He told them not to do. I say that they may be viewed as heroes now but during their days, they had different personal agenda. After 300+ years of slavery, still not the right time?
@@Zeela-ey4fq Ok, dont sling 'slavery' around so lightly... I dont think the Spanish enslaved the general citizens and populace while they were here...
@@Lord_Ivoundy_Creood im sorry i don't sugar coat slavery.
@@Zeela-ey4fq i wasnt talking about sugar coating anything...
People forget Rizal basically had a life built up for himself in Spain. He had European friends and shared their sensibilities. Were it not for his love for his countrymen, he could have just given up and lived a longer, happier life. The man could have had a home in Spain, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or Japan if he had so wanted--the doors of the world are always open to polymaths, but he chose to come back to his sorry homeland and got himself executed for his troubles.
After that, it's the nation's turn to determine whether or not his sacrifice was worth it in the end.
He could've been forgotten if he did that, but he didn't which is why, we're talking about him
He's well traveled and knows Spanish citizenship is going to be useful
Nooooooo 😅 he never wanted us to be separated from Spain. Again, as mentioned in the video, he absolutely wanted a reform not independence. He knew we couldn't do it and he was right!
Mainland Spain underwent a total reform and he saw all that. That's what he was asking.
Unfortunately, Andres tried to pursue him to join in the revolution as the "utak ng katipunan" but he refused.
But Andrew idolized him so much that he included his name as one of the leaders of the revolution. That's why Spain was lured into thinking it was Rizal's idea. In fact, Rizal was already planning on going to Cuba.
Andres ruined all of it.
This is why Rizal was actually talking about the Spanish language as our wika and not Tagalog.
Learned this from my Rizal Professor back in College. Super fascinating! 👌🏼
also, one of the many reasons they chose Rizal was because of the books that he published. that's why he's well known and his history still thrives. he used his pen rather than the sword.
@@paulayvonnealbao567 Look what happened to us. Jose Rizal is right all along.
Rizal's death is the go signal for Bonifacio to do his thing..(eye 4 an eye)
But it all gone to waste when Aguinaldo entered the big picture..
Yeah Fuc* that guy
The big bad traitor, killed Antonio Luna one of his finest generals, hell the only true general and he massacre him and his brother, Aguilnaldo shouldn't be a hero he's a traitor
Noon pa man uso na Ang mga epal tulad ngayon sa mga pulitiko natin.Hahaha
Rizal knew the peril of corruption then. He saw it coming.
The main reason why the philippine failed to secure its freedom ... Killed too many Revolutionaries who is more heroic and patriotic than that fake first
“Pasasaan pa ang kalayaan, kung ang mga alipin ngayon ay sila din namang mang-aalipin bukas.” -Jose Rizal, El Filibusterismo
"Where would freedom go, if the slaves of today would become the slavers of tomorrow."
@@Coffeehouse_Latte thanks for clarifying
Meaning kapwa filipino ang mang aalipin sa kapwa filipino sa hinaharap
I like how youtube auto translator just wanted to go for a war
@@Coffeehouse_Latte or better yet... Slaves of today be slave drivers of tomorrow...
I love them both. I'm always in awe how people back then have drive and motivation to fought for their country. Meanwhile, people nowadays just want the easier road all the time, this includes me. I don't have the energy to argue with anyone anymore.
right. and the people who are fighting for equal rights on the streets (activists) just like how these men did in the past are being called as "rebels" and "terrorist". that's why Philippines will never get the true Independence, yet.
Rizal, not only wants to preserve life, but to uplift, to develop, to improve the quality of life of fellow-Filipinos... not just to be free.
Rizal is a rich kid intellectual idealist. Improvement of life did not happen, free? Nah.
@@crymeaariver actually what Rizal wanted was for the best interest of the Philippines citizens. If we became an autonomous region of a big power such as spain back then. The other countries would think twice invading the "region" Had we our early freedom from the spaniards would meant the other powers invading us non stop. we got our freedom not in the perfect time but enough for us to become slightly independent but other countries took hold of the governance via the puppet presidents and bogus enrichment programs. The autonomizing of the region might've saved a good chunk of the Philippines people from japanese occupation but also could have prevented american occupation as well but since Philippines didn't become an autonomous region but stayed as a colonized territory. Selling us off wasn't a problem. Our lives would've been much worse if KKK sought freedom too early because patriotic killers tend to bear communistic amongst young educated rich kids. My best example was pol pot. Ravaged by rampant crime and horrible living conditions because of colonization and early independence. the whole place was a mess and was anarchy and royals that couldn't do much but flee elsewhere. Idealistic young men banded together and formed a communist/socialist era that is a total nightmare
@@crymeaariver that rich kid you're talking about just helped people cure illness/disease as a doctor including her mother, teaching a number of youth how to read and write while outcast in dapitan, all of w/c did in pure charitable act. That isn't a privileged person would do back in the day and if they do it's illegal under Spanish rule to uplift Filipinos including how to build their mindset w/o their consent esp. their consent mind you.
@@crymeaariveragree
@@crymeaariver I mean even Bonifacio was an intellectual idealist...
Rizal's novels inspired Bonifacio to be a revolutionist. In a way, that still makes Rizal the most influential hero between the two.
Hell, my Jose Rizal prof in college used that as their arguing point why Rizal will always be Philippines' national hero.
That completely makes sense, because Bonifacio will never have the patriotism he had because of Rizal. Before reading the book Bonifacio life is not easy he has his own busy life supporting his siblings his first priorities and his life. Until he has a change of heart when he met rizal
Kahit ala c Rizal Meron uusbon na Bonifacio
@@darkflamemaster6541Bonifacio was a poor guy who lived the full brunt of discrimination and hardship of commoner life under the spanish rule, it was a real life motivation greater than any novel or make believe works
Rizal on the other hand is a rich kid who lived overseas and didn't really experience spanish cruelty and had all the luxury of time writing novels while hundreds of filipinos are dying
You people undervalue the hardworks of people who actually do the actions for change, you prefer drama and dramatic backstories more
@@alfonseradorimperial642 And you also pretty much severely underestimated and belittled the struggles, empathy, and power of those rich kids, just because they're rich. In lots of former colonial countries it was those class of first foreign educated rich kids who ignited and organized effective resistance.
The US founding fathers were very significant intellectuals, most with privileged educational background. The first batches of Indonesian revolutionaries also had similar privileged backgrounds, being educated in STOVIA, THS, or the Netherlands. Sun Yat Sen was a medical doctor, Gandhi came from a peivileged lawyer family, Nehru also came from similar background. Mao Zedong was a son of a wealthy farmer. Engels and Marx was, despite their writings, very privileged ppl of their time.
Not that familiar w ph history but still, no need to belittle either of them. Anyone could take a gun and point it at someone but very few could make "make believe" works which could convince someone to actually do that.
@@alfonseradorimperial642You failed to realize that most Filipino revolutionaries are from middle class land renting Families. Why is that? It's because of their capacity to launch a revoution. A revolution also benefits them the most because they will get rid of the Church that owns their lands and to whom the are paying rent to.
It will not diminish Bonifacio's importance nor will it elevate him. Those who fought for the independence of our motherland must be revered equally, regardless of their background.
Rizal and Bonifacio, and others too, are worthy of being called National heroes, there is no reason to only have one or two.
Bonifacio's tragic story still hits me.. very sad..
Killed by his fellow Filipino
And he only wanted freedom/independence but the price he paid is high
Probably paid to betray him. Like Judas betrayed Jesus for silver.
😢😢😢
Nostalgia! I made a term paper centralizing on this topic back in 3rd year college, and it was worth the research since I got enlightened by the true history of the Philippines.
Both Rizal and Bonifacio wanted positive change and a better life for their people. The means for that better life is where they differed. While Rizal thought that a better life for Filipinos would be achieved with Spain, Bonifacio though that a better life for Filipinos would be achieved without it. At the end of the day, both of their causes were animated by a spirit of patriotism.
Rizal is a 'Reformist' up front but he is actually a "Silent Revolutionist"
Bonifacio was one of the people whom Rizal inspired. As a matter of fact, he was a member of the short-lived La Liga Filipina which was established by the latter. Rizal thought that they were not yet ready for an arm struggle, that all of their efforts will only go in vain if they fail.
And it did.
And It did. He was right all along he did say that we are not ready yet.
I wished that we had 2 national heroes, to represent that the Philippines will fight for what is right and fight in a peaceful way
Rizal Used His Brain, Bonifacio Used His Heart...
Imagine if filipinos became friendly to Spaniards and accepts their indolent way of living
People would look so different nowadays
He used his brain so hard that guaranteed his people's occupation by another foreign country, such a genius
Rephrase: Rizal exercise more on critical thinking while Bonifacio was driven by his emotions
@@raqraven We were friendly, but they abused our kindness.
I disagree to this ... Bonifacio didn't use his heart... Know why? Kung totoong mahal mo ang mga tao sa bansa mo... Hahayaan mo ba silang mamatay?
Rizal's plan was underrated and misinterpreted by many Filipinos during that time. The reason why he persuades Spain to make the Philippines one of its provinces is simply because if that happens, all the laws and rights of Spain will also be applied to their territory including the citizens rights which was the main goal of him to have each and everyone stand an equal footing in the society with the pure citizens of Spain.
Err no. Reform is the dream of Marcelo and Graciano. Rizal is just a guest to their house who are willing to please the 2 so they can help Rizal to distribute his Noli Me Tangere to a wider audience.
@@alexonorep5978 that's a part of it, but based on what we've study regarding the history, it is one of the goals of Rizal to persuade Spain and get the same rights right after we become part of their province.
@@bernardleomo9597 Ahh so you're saying that Rizal is naive and doesn't know that Philippines is not a mere colony of Spain but already a province of Spain? and because of that the Spaniards are willing to die to defend their ownership over this territory? You know the demand for equal rights is not hard earned only if the Filipinos are white skinned like the Spaniards, isn't it? You can demand for equal rights even without telling the Spaniards that we should become a province. Accept the fact that we're different from the Spaniards racially and you can have your concept of province together with your peers and professors but asking who are the real naives here I would gladly say it wasn't Doctor Jose Rizal.
@@bernardleomo9597 Just remember that our country is named after a Spanish King. So our towns also and the streets that ply their routes many are named similar to the ones you can find in Spain till this day.
Peninsulares and Insulares were both Spaniards with the same looks and culture but don’t have the same rights, how much more to a mestizo or Indio? Rizal over Bonifacio? I go for the latter as he was more nationalistic. That’s my honest opinion.
In my opinion. Both of them should be the national hero. Both of them played a big part in history. They may have different views on how to achieve freedom but they still helped us gain it.
Unfortunately, there's no national hero in the Philippines as per the 1987 constitution, it's not written there.
It's just brought up by American colonialism and we buy it up to this exact same day.
@@connordrake5713without them we wouldn't even exist
I’m amaze because of how cool the history of the Philipines is. It’s like reading a well written story, small discussion like this talking about how deep the character of Phillipine’s national hero is the thing that make it’s cool. Kudos from your neighbor Indonesia🇲🇨
We don’t have a national hero, but, we have national heroes.
Your funny
wtf???
Wait what?
Thank you, Finally someone gets it
Aguinaldo is my favorite hero
“Mabuti dapat ang panimula, upang mabuti rin ang wakas"
🥰
Sana pero dami plot twists eh hahahhaa
rizal: *violence was never an answer*
andres: *well peace was never an option*
When someone's trying to be edgy...
its a referenced joke.
Me: Well, life is a multiple choice
Rizal actually: “Violence is a question. And the answer is …. not yet.”
Peace is an option
Both of them are wonderful and followed their own belief with their people in mind. Both of them are rebel in their different ways and it's inspiring.
Connect the pieces together and you will see how many possibilities humanity can rebel against oppressors.
You can try diplomacy, yes. But there will be time when you will need to stand up and fight. It's all a matter of balancing and timing.
Not to downgrade Andres Bonifacio, his bravery was unlike no other. But independence would never be achieved by violence and rebellion. Rizal considered the future of the next generations. He knew if the Philippines embraced rebellion, the next generations will be forced to continue what had been started.. Rizal advocated not just love for the country but to prioritize education as well, and in order to achieve this, we need to choose peace and accept help from other nations..
It would definitely bring more violence
He is a Chinese
@@cannyeyes382 And?
``independence would never be achieved by violence and rebellion`` This is false, no independence movement was achieved without violence. Even the most popular independence movements always have a violent revolution running along side with it.
I wouldn't think about it that way. Independence is won when the colonial power no longer has power or interests in the colony. Armed revolution is merely a means to incur losses such that the colonial power would not be able to sustain their rule over the colony.
That is exactly what the Philippine Revolution did, albeit aided greatly by the United States' war against Spain. But of course, the Yanks became our new colonial masters right after. They knew, however, that long term rule over the islands would be unsustainable in the near future, and they would eventually have to grant us independence to cut their losses.
I feel deeply for Gat Andres. I believe he was supposed to be the ideal Filipino, hardworking, intelligent and resilient. I feel bad that he doesn’t get enough recognition he deserves asides from the bolo and revolution. He wasn’t corrupt and his morals are high. I feel bad that his downfall was from his fellow Filipinos. There wasn’t any competition between him and Rizal, it was between him and Aguinaldo. And damn, my heart still cries for his undeserved fate. He should have been the first Philippine president. 😞
Bonifacio was the Filipino Xiang Yu. Aguinaldo was Liu Bang.
Agree❤
That is why i'm still wondering why people still celebrate for that traitor, corrupt, spoiled brat from Cavite...
Rival was the definition of the phrase think before you act
Do more research
Hindi porke rebolusyon ang pinili ay hindi nag-iisip ang mga lumahok nito. Ang rebolusyon ay pinag-iisipan nang maigi at pinagpaplanuhan ito upang maging matagumpay ang bawat hakbang.
Kung titingnan natin, nagtagumpay ang rebolusyon ni Bonifacio ngunit ito ay mabilis na inagaw at binawi ng mga kolonyalista mula sa Amerika.
Pansinin mo - pinili ng mga Amerikano ang ating pambansang bayani kaya magtaka ka na sa ganyan pa lang hmm 🤨🤔
Sa mga naka- abroad, gugustohin din na magaya ang bansa natin sa iba… Very true even as of today…
Jose Rizal is our national hero because he inspired Filipinos to fight for independence. He might be against a bloody revolution but he fueled it.
One of our heroes but not official yet. Wala pa po tayong batas kung sino/sino-sino ang ating national hero(officially). Kasi nga hindi makapagdecide ang mga Filipinos
@@kamote1935 Yes I just googled it. We were taught that Jose Rizal was our National Hero , we even had a course in college called Rizal at Panitikan. Now I realize that its just a public acclamation. Well , I definitely agree in choosing him as a national hero.
Coming from a person who shares a similar history which choose the bloody revolution, you did well, i wish my people opted for a peaceful resolution
He might not want independence itself. Gusto lang niya maging probinsya ng Spain Ang pilipinas
Nah its americans dictated RIZAL to be hero
Rizal & Bonifacio R both great heroes 2 me R.I.P🙏🕊❤
because Jose Rizal knew that the Philippines was not ready for Independence, this is also the reason why he killed the main character Simoun in the novel El Filibusterismo
not ready? so when?
@@jiyoo6109 when reforms are made.
Systems shapes behavior. Good system breeds healthy democracy. Bad system breeds disgusting corruption. That's what it is.
When we gained independence, what happened? That's the answer.
Rizal is a bright man. He knew what you and me can never understand.
@@naimas8120 thats just all idealistic approach.
@@jiyoo6109 idealistic? Its common sense and practical. Dfq are you spouting. You thought of having our freedom will lead us to a better system? No, because most of the filipinos are illiterate, very few were able to have an opportunity to access education at his time.
@@jiyoo6109 tell that to Rizal 😊
We have a national hero, a supposed role model for everyone of us, that had an idealist mindset.
Both paved way for the Philippine's Independence. It doesn't really matter who people sees as heroes, their achievement cannot be denied-both paid with their sweat and blood, let them rest.
A hero offers sacrifices, and I believe Andres Bonifacio made the bigger sacrifice between the two since Jose Rizal was too vulnerable with his family; I think he didn't want to die upon his execution, whereas Andres was willing to.
It isn't correct to say that Jose Rizal is justified to still be the national hero just because he inspired the Katipuneros, including Andres Bonifacio. When you think about it, revolution would still happen without Jose Rizal because he isn't the only one who wrote against the Spaniards. It was just a matter of time. His death just made it sooner.
Besides, in the moon landing it was the astronauts that were praised more than the team behind the mission. Because it was the scariest part of it. Likewise, Andres Bonifacio who had direct involvement in the revolution is worthy of more praise than Jose Rizal; This wouldn't affect Jose Rizal's heroism anyway. It will also encourage the Filipinos to take part, not just commenting their opinions but also having direct involvement with the patriotism we are currently faking to have.
Kung hindi dahil ky Rizal baka naging crypto adik si Bonifacio instead of a hero kaya mas greater pa rin si Rizal kesa sa kanya.
@@MementoMori1001 your comment doesn't sound like an argument. People only still insist Jose Rizal as the national hero by default. What considered heroes today is nearer by definition to Andres Bonifacio. Get away, troll... 😮💨
@@trudis based on Hollywood/marvel standards? Hahaha
You have a point. Jose Rizal was not the only one who wrote against the spaniards. He was just the most famous at that time.
@MementoMori1001 your Rizal is just coward
The American chose Jose Rizal, so they can perpetrate their vested interest in the country.
How could America choose a guy who was already dead?
@arthurnolasco185 Americans were the one who chose the Philippines' National hero which is Jose Rizal. They chose him since compared to Andres Bonifacio who seeks freedom through fighting and revolution, Jose Rizal wanted the Philippines to be part of Spain and be treated equally and he showed it through means of writing. In which case for the Americans who recently occupied the Philippines chose Rizal as it seemed to promote equality rather than a full out battle for revolution which Andres Bonifacio was known for.
Should be obvious. Pacification of populace.
If that's the case, why did the Japanese also brought up Rizal to rally Filipinos around as a prophet of Pan-Asianism instead of Bonfacio, na na-snub ng mga radical na secret society ng mha Hapon nung panahon noua
PERIOD! EXACTLY!
Dr. Jose Rizal's writings were the instrument that awakens the hearts of the revolutionists.
Which was reckless to begin with
@@maritesbuster8209 paano pong naging reckless?
@@rowenanardo343 These are my notes from school, so if there are any inaccuracies, please correct me.
August 23, 1896,
-Pagpunit ng sedula
-Sigaw ng pugad lawin
August 29, 1896,
Six days after, sumugod ang mga katipunero sa: Mandaluyong, Pandacan, Pasig, at San Juan Del Monte (marami ang namatay.)
Sa lahat, hindi sila nagtagumpay.
Nope, it isn’t. It was the death of the martyred priests.
Dr. Jose Rizal was a strong advocate for reforms within the Spanish colonial system, his primary goal was not complete independence. He sought assimilation of the Philippines as a province of Spain, with Filipinos enjoying equal rights and representation.
Andres Bonifacio, on the other hand, was a staunch advocate for Philippine independence. He founded the Katipunan, a revolutionary society dedicated to overthrowing Spanish rule and establishing a sovereign Filipino nation.
If everyone has a heart like bonifacio and luna back then , i think our country is not what it is today...
Agree
Agree just like Francisco dagohoy did the longest revolt during the Spanish colonization.
If Britain had retained control of the Philippines back in the 1760's, I think the Philippines would be a much better place today.
That said, a lot of Filipinos had a heart like bonifacio and de Luna back then. Not only did we win the Philippine revolutionary war, we also fought the USA, a blossoming superpower, to a standstill. Hell, the M1911 pistol was designed because of the Philippine American war, as the colt revolvers used by American officers did not have enough rounds or enough stopping power to put a Filipino down.
Lapu Lapu in the corner......
Even Aquinaldo, despite being the leader of the revolution, professed his love for Spain to the point he was accused of being a Collaborator. Maybe the Americans choose Rizal to be the National Hero but even the Katipunan respected Rizal. Besides, the American preference for Rizal proved appropriate. Rizal had international stature and deserve to be our National Hero.
It won't be surprising if he was a collaborator. He did collaborate for the Americans and Japanese after all.
Love your videos. Thank you for educating the young and reminding the old very memorable things about our history. THings we forget or forget to teach nowadays. Please continue to give more educated and historically correct information about our past! More power to your channel!
José Rizal is a doctor and saved so many Filipinos lives that's why he is our national hero.
I think Philippine history is full of twists and turn , all of the fascinating!
Full of sadness and regrets.
Thank you for shedding a light on your country's history
Love from Indonesia
This isn't accurate. Search on wikipedia or encyclopedia websites, not youtube
@@enso8762 even Wikipedia isn't accurate. Kaya pinagbawalan kami ng research teacher namin na kumuha Ng information doon para sa research paper.
@@user-up9lu1zi4r Sorry I don't fully understand you because I can't read filipino. I have to say though, as a wiki contributor for years, most of it is accurate and have sources. The vandalism are made by idiots and trolls, they get banned easily.
thank you for the informative videos. I just love your voice. it's very calming
Sana naging part na lang ng spain, wala namang nangyari sa pinaglaban na rebolosyon eh kapwa pilipino pa ang kumulong sa atin sa kahirapan
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Shout out sa inyo mga corrupt politicians
Nakamit nga natin ang kalayaan ngunit ngayon ay tayo ang sumisira sa ating sariling bayan.
Pangit pa rin, aabusuhin ka pa rin
El Filibusterismo
Sinulat ni Jose Rizal
"Anó kayó sa araw ng̃ búkas? Bayang walâng budhî, bansâng walâng kalayàan; ang lahát ng̃ tagláy ninyó’y pawàng hirám, sampû ng̃ inyóng mg̃a kasiràan. ¡
¡Humihing̃î kayóng magíng parang kastilà at hindî kayó namumutlâ sa kahihiyan kung ipagkaít sa inyó! At kahit na ipagkaloob sa inyó ¿anó ang inyóng hang̃ád? ¿anó ang inyóng mátatamó? Maligaya na kayó kung magíng bayan ng̃ pag-aalsá, bayan ng̃ mg̃a digmâan ng̃ mg̃a magkababayan, repúblika ng̃ mg̃a mangdaragít at di nasisiyaháng loób na kagaya ng̃ iláng repúblika sa timog ng̃ Amérika! ¿Anó ang layon ninyó sa pagtuturò ng̃ wikàng kastilà; hang̃ád na kahiyahiyâ kung hindî lamang nápakasamâ ang ibubung̃a? ¡Ibig ninyóng dagdagán ng̃ isá pang wikà ang apat na pû’t kung ilán pang ginagamit sa Kapulùan upang huwag kayóng lalòng magkaantiluhan!."
Tayo lang ang nagnais na maging malapit sa mga Kastila. Dahil ang mga Kastila, Latin America ang nais nilang lipatan upang manirahan, hindi Pilipinas. Iyon ang dahilan kung bakit di tayo natutong magsalita ng kastla
La libertad de comercio en las islas Filipinas, por Don Manuel Azcárraga y Palmero.
Madrid, Impr. de J. Noguera, 1871
"Given that America (Spanish America) was closer and the climate condition in America was better, the land immense and fertile, no matter how large and active the Spanish nation had been, it was not possible there would have been vigor left to serve the remote provinces of Asia, and today we are seeing emigrations from the Cantabrian coast to Buenos Aires and other places where the conditions are known to the European farmers, and where nowhere else can a wider field be presented to the entrepreneurial geniuses.""
I think you said it very well. This is also what my teacher told us when we are high school. Americano ang nag proclaim kay Rizal na national hero natin kasi strategy nila yun para hindi maulit sakanila yung revolution. Since si Bonifacio ay sign ng tapang ayaw nila na matapang ang mga pinoy. Atleast pag si Rizal ang hero natin peace muna ang iisipin natin base sa history natin.
Ganiyan din sabi ng professor ko nung college.
Ouch
No amount of dictation or legislation from the colonizers would have installed Jose Rizal as a national hero in the deepest meaning of that title. Rizal became the national hero in the hearts and minds of the Filipino people who rallied behind his principles of a Filipino liberty and nationhood.
They were good allies and vouched for each other. They both deserve all the respect.
They both love their country ....thats the most important thing . Love of country is something that our leaders lack today, sad to note .
I like his voice, so soft, so soothing. Kudos for you buddy
Jose Rizal deserves to be the National Hero because he was in Europe and had the advantage of observing Spain and their plans for the Philippines. He encouraged the Filipinos to fight because he knew Spain was planning to sell the Philippines to America for $20 million. If it wasn’t for him Andres Bonifacio, Apolonario Mabini, Juan and Antonio Luna wouldn’t be able to plan well for the revolution.
Hindi lang Naman si Rizal ang nag inspire Kay Andress take note mahilig magbasa ng libro si Andress nabasa nya din ang tungkol sa American and french revolution at Nung Nakita niya MISMO na pinatay ang 3 pari marami pang ibang masyado kayong naka focus Kay Rizal na kesyo Hindi mag rebolusyon si Andress kung di dahil Kay rizal
Lol pinag sasabi nitong alam nya ang plano ng Spain to sell. Ano yun chismis sa lansangan yung pag benta sa Pilipinas. Mofo with or without Rizal lalayas ang Spain dahil natatalo sila sa gyera and they hindi na nila afford i maintain ang Philippines
The discussion here is worth reading. Congratulations for igniting your viewers interest in the matter of Jose Rizal and Andres Bonifacio.
Rizal is the eye opener of the Filipinos that is why he is the national hero
Despite differing views, Bonifacio actually respected Rizal and even attempted to rescue him.
Wait fr?
@@Zero432ZXthe katipunan sent Pio Valenzuela to Dapitan in order to inform Rizal about the revolution as well as to escape him
@@shem7146 There's so many things I don't know about my own homeland...
Well it was Noli Mi Tangere that sparked the start of Katipunan.
So at some point Katipunan was like the fan-group of 'idol' Jose Rizal - I mean, you're not even allowed to join unless you have read Rizal's novels. 😅
They also used Rizal's name to recruit people.. resulting to Rizal's execution. BTW, Antonio Luna was also implicated and imprisoned.. he stand as a witness against Rizal and was exiled, imprisoned in Spain. Surprisingly was released and studied 'MILITARY TACTICS" in Europe. He has many military books with him when he went back to the Philippines to prove he was an expert on that field. Imagine your general's major military experienced taken from BOOKs.
Man! You have a very good voice and intonation! You had me hooked this short.
While I digitalize my great-grandfather's journal from 1945, Lt Melecio said: "...There is nothing more glorious in every red-blooded soldier than to die in the fields of battle for the defense of their native land. They fought valiantly and courageously worthy of immolation for a cause which they honestly believe to be their rightful duty. The golden memory is brilliantly alive in the spirit of these unfortunate heroes."
Actually the reason WHY RIZAL was our national hero because he fought in a peaceful way, since Filipinos chose him so because he was calm. and Filipino's want people to know that we are calm. We dont want people know that we are dangerous whatsoever. The American didn't chose Rizal, it was us.
And you don't have know more about Rizal like why their child died in the night was born if you know that do you considered that as heroism and also do you considered our National Hero was a Gambler and Drinker and Chick boy
I have a José Rizal neck tie. Marvelous man, a hero of a great nation. 💛🇵🇭
Wow! Your voice is really nice, the delivery of your speech is very clear. Very articulate! Galing!
Agreed to this
As much as I like Andres Bonifacio more, I agree with Dr. Jose Rizal. Philippines at the time was simply very much not ready yet, so the only most plausible way for Filipinos to stand a chance is to survive while learning about identity and nationalism.
That's what I know too. But yet Aguinaldo had Andres Bonifacio killed.
Can't blame the him. A man needs to do what a man needs to do. It is what it is
@@___Anakin.Skywalker that isnt the only time he betrayed a fellow country men , antonio luna was betrayed by him
the last general to actually fight for Philippine independence
@@ai9183 Antonio Luna was a piece of shi so he deserved what he got. Plus he didn't execute them both.
@@___Anakin.Skywalker it's not manly and dignified to kill someone using schemes, it's a cowardly move. he was too scared to fight fair and square. people with the most power r always the ones who fear the most.
@@ahyiah02 men you described dead quickly LMFAO get real bro brains over brawns
This dude teached me better than my AP teacher
Thats bad!!!
Growing up, I remember my history teacher told us that one reason why Rizal was chosen over Bonifacio was because of their way of dying. Rizal didn't flinch when he was killed. Bonifacio begged to not be killed.
@@DaStareofDeath itagalog mo na lang dude
@@JavaChipGaming then why you speak english
Not only did he not flinch, he was also able to turn his body so that he could face the sun when he fell, in spite of being shot in the back.
Tbf he was ordered to be killed and was killed by the very own revolution he created (literally his very own people). And he was his brother who is also ordered to be executed with him. While begging he called them 'kapatid' (brothers) cause again he was killed by his own Filipino people who he trust would stand beside him. While Rizal was killed by the colonizers (tho yes the ones who are holding the guns are Filipinos but the order was from Spain). I equally respect both heroes and even Rizal and bonifacio despite having different views are known to respect eachother, so it does pain me to see that Andres' very tragic death is being depicted this way without fair context, he didn't begged to the enemies he begged to his own people thinking they should have eachothers back
This is also the reason why we commemorate bonifacio's birthday instead of his death unlike Rizal where we commemorate his death. Cause bonifacio's death was betrayal from our own Filipino people which is pure tragic while Rizal's death was tragic yet also something to be proud of like Rizal standing proud before our enemies
Think before you act. I ALSO CHOOSE PEACE FIRST. ❤️
I like this philippine history content. Keep creating these videos man! Greetings from Indonesia
A hero is a hero, national hero or not, they both did big things. Proud Filipino here!
That “Proud Filipino” is so cringey 😖
Proud? Overuse stop it
Just like Gandhi and Netaji. The former was the pioneer of non-violence and the other a revolutionary in India's fight against the British. The former became a hero the latter died in isolation. Nevertheless they complimented each other.
British is different from the Spaniards
Actions speak LOUDER than WORDS.
Taught me more in less than 60 seconds than my 1-hour-to-write 8 page front back notebook in AP💀
Interesting...What did u write in the paper ?
With 500 words TF😂
@@GeorgeTSiy just stalking all the presidents, their wives, age, year old, their size
This man taught me more Filipino history and other stuff than my AP class did
You're probably sleeping at that time or not paying attention
@@JAMALODIN_LAO-ON Yeah even the persian and Spartan war was mentioned by my AP teacher😂
without rizal revolution didnt happened. both were different but tied together like a butterfly effect
I remember during our subject in college about rizal's life..
Rizal was driven by his intelligence while Bonifacio was driven by his emotions mainly hatred towards the spaniards, he wanted to fight them fist to fist.
Rizal and his family was supposed to flee to borneo to live in peace but spaniards found an illegal document in his sister's baggage. This was the reason why rizal was held in captive and then later on executed. Rizal was very respected despite his small frame that when arrested, soldiers hesitated to touch him and lead him to his cell.
Rizal definitely deserved to be a national hero. He fought them through noli and el fili. He was ready to reveal the crimes of prayles to the filipinos and the intention of spaniards in our islands back then. He only halted and backed out when he learned that his mother was punished - they made her walk from laguna (forgot the end point) but it was really really far.
Spaniards went too far as they started attacking Rizal's family. They wanted Rizal to come back to the Philippines so they can arrest him. His mother is his wake up call as he can't let them punish his old and weak mother anymore. Rizal realized filipinos cannot stand a chance against spaniards. He went back to ph and planned on leaving the country along with his whole family. But then, this never happen as they got him arrested and executed.
Rizal's death sparked revolution led by bonifacio.
This is the first i heard about Philippines history. Love from Vietnam 🇻🇳
I'm a Filipino descended from Vietnamese.
Rizal is the inspiration for Bonifacio, that is why he will just be next to him.
@@junavila6023 nobody is first or second.
@@junavila6023 there would be no independence if all talk, no violence
Imagine a colonizer (US) declaring a national hero for a colony (Philippines). To date there is no law or proclamation declaring any national hero of the Philippines.
Because it's US occupation then
😂
Bonifacio has always been my hero....
Me too Rizal only wanted Philippines become a province of Spain period
Me too. Bonifacio is my national hero.
@@richardranido377 But the thing is that Rizal's books inspired Bonifacio to rebel against spain, and Rizal's death is their signal to do all of it. But i also agree that Bonifacio did more for the Philippines than Rizal, Until Aguinaldo killed him 😔
Rizal is not being acknowledged as a hero even in his own hometown. They know better .
@@cesarlopez-fw8gv Kasi nga American Ang Ng choice n Gawin national hero si Rizal Kasi Kun c Bonifacio bka matutu tyu na kalabanin cla that time kc sakop tyu nn Americano
It would be amazing to see their statues back to back to each other, since the both of them really played a crucial role in the history of the Philippines.
Rizal saw what happened when colonies had early revolutions against their empires. I mean Haiti today is still one of the poorest and corrupt, unstable countries today.
@M Ong I think it is possible that Philippine can self sufficient itself even if it breaks away from the Spaniards. The country is literally in the middle of the trade route between China, Japan, Malaya and Jawa. Not to mention the spice trade as well. The problem with Haiti is that the French made that island to only produce sugar cane and that is the only thing the plantation slaves or Haitian had ever known to do.
@@aaronlimeuchin7352 that is true but Malaya, java , china, were under the rule of the U.S and Spaniards allies. Haiti was excluded from the rest of the world's economy, with the rest of their neighbors being colonizers or colonies opposed to them. This would be the same for the Philippines
By design. Haiti is still punished today for being the only sucessful slave revolt that created a nation.
Bad take, unless you're arguing that Rizal feared punishment.
@@leonfrancis3418 not just Haiti but also many in Latin America and Africa where political instability and corruption rules despite having a successful "revolution" which actually did nothing but change the people's oppressor into from foreigners to their own people
@@mung1233 I agreed partially with your statement, and there is one mistake to your statement. China was not colonized by the British and it's allies, not in entirety. Only the strategic parts of China such as Hong Kong and the Liaodong Peninsula, etc got colonized by the Western Powers.
Moreover, Philippine is a huge nation compared to Haiti and it is 11 times bigger than Haiti. Not to mention it had many islands as well. Therefore, it also had lots of resources and people. Haiti had virtually nothing when compared with Philippine.
Even if Philippine cannot rely on international trade, they still can trade among their own people. It is not entirely square one for the Philippines.
I guess Jose Rizal would still be our national hero because he would choose something peaceful. He would not opt for something violent because our nation would be weak against Spain. Even if we win,what will be our outcome.
He knew that even if a Revolution would work, we wouldn't be ready in the slightest in a turbulent Political Climate. Japan to the North, The Dutch and Brits to the South, The French in the East, Qing China to the Northeast, Germany to the Southeast, America to the East.
Our Geography may be good, but it cursed us as we were in between every last Great Power.
@@USSFFRU Yes and we are also cursed with being the Storm barrier of Southeast Asia.
@@paulhendrixlacamento4405 That as well lmao
@@USSFFRU true if only Bonifacio and KKK didn't fight against the Spaniards our ancestors will not suffer a great loss especially during WW2. Rizal knew.
Rizal is a hero.. He chose to use what he can so that Filipinos can have a similar starting point because lets be real even if after the revolution what would happen next.. Just go back to old times?.. I firmly believe that Rizal was looking at the Future while Andres Bonifacio was looking at the present. .
The American made him a hero.
@@rejiequimiguing3739 Maybe your definition of hero and mine are different...btw I dont account who made who a hero but their qualities and I just hypothesize what their plan for the future was..
Yes. The pen is mightier than tne sword.
From what I learned in college, Rizal wasn't entirely against a violent uprising. In fact in his conversation with Dr. Pio Valenzuela during his exile in Dapitan, he explicitly made suggestions to Valenzuela what steps to do if an uprising must be ignited. This includes seeking aid and support from the upper class Filipinos at the time, including Antonio Luna, because of their connections and because they can become a threat if they find out that the Revolutionaries are very unarmed. That said, Also, he mentioned Valenzuela of his plan to visit Cuba to aid as a medical doctor for the military. He wanted to use the opportunity to study the revolution tactics in the ongoing fights in Cuba and perhaps learn from it and apply to the Philippine Revolution itself.
That said, the narrative behind "Rizal vs Bonifacio" or "Reform vs Revolution" is very disheartening because both parts played crucial roles with each other during their time.
Bonifacio idolised Rizal and I can say he is the biggest fan of him.
That's true and Rizal turned down the offer of Bonifaio to lead the revolution, and Rizal become the Nat'l Hero not Bonifacio, how ironic😂😂😂
@@cesarlopez-fw8gv but the question is do they even care about that title of the so called "National Hero"?
And also bonifacio was the reason why Rizal got executed, Rizal was accused that he is one of the leaders of katipunan ..
@@arthurcolumbretes7346 bro it's because of fcking Luna who accused Rizal not Bonifacio
@@mochiyomi7464 pfftt luna and rizal almost killed each other because of women yes but about rizal's execution it is because katipuneros admire rizal and made rizal as an honorary president , and when Spaniards raided one of the bases of bonifacio they saw Rizal's picture and so Rizal was convicted as one of the leader of KKK..stop saying baseless statements.. I joined a quiz bee about Life and works of Rizal so don't me🙂
Rizal is the great choice to become a hero. Higit pa nagawa niya kesa sa ibang mga bayani kahit mga bayani sa ibang bansa.
True
Rizal was a brilliant thinker and was ahead of anybody in analyzing the geopolitical importance of the Philippines in the world politics. His present critics consider him as traitor and hail Andres Bonifacio as the real hero. There shouldn’t be a conflict in the idea that both wanted nothing but freedom from the abuses of the Spanish colonizer. Bonifacio was for the armed struggle but Rizal was for a more peaceful way.
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That's why Barbie forteza was a time traveler.
Rizal played safe and smart. He's not a pacifist nor a person who desire violence solely for freedom. I like that.
Peace is always the resolution 🙏
The Americans wanted the Filipino to have a hero like Rizal who don't like violence so we are easy to control by them.
Not much has changed we are still being controlled by the rich, corrupt, greedy and religious people of the Philippines.
Exactly 💯 percent truth...! If only they knew how Americans make propaganda to destroy nations so that they can take their resources... Just like Iraq Libya etc....
Rizal is my national hero!
Rizal was not a reformist, at least in his latter years.
His early critiques on Philippine society were aimed at the friar establishment, and he advocated mother Spain to address the corruption of the friars. He later realized that the friar problem was a symptom of the bigger disease: Spanish colonialism itself.
This is why despite his reservations on the timing of the Philippine Revolution, he looked favorably upon it. These are evident in his later works and statements, even subtly in Mi Ultimo Adios.
It's in this reason that the revolution waged on, not despite Rizal but because of him. Americans "sponsored" the veneration of Rizal because he was already a hero to Filipinos, but their propaganda of Rizal painted him as the pacifist we mistake him for today.
There is a paper by Floro Quibuyen entitled "Rizal and the Revolution" that explains all of this in detail.
He is not a pacifist for sure
I'd choose PEACE, anytime.
In short ..Rizal seek diplomatic revolution while Andres opted Drastic revolution.
Is the the inspiration for Season 2 TPN
Correction it's reformation for Rizal is a reformist and not a revolutionist
What do you expect Andres Bonifacio will be a modern day DDS.
@@chrispbacon7533 DDS ay mga tngang pnatiko ng bliw at hlimaw n politiko.
In short, Rizal used his brilliant mind. 👍