The Secret Horror Film Made Without Disney's Permission
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How about a review of 'Nope'?
Can you do a review of as above so below (a film taking place in my country :D)
Paranoia Agent/Perfect Blue
I would love a retrospective of "TEETH."
As Above, So Below (2014)
Mr. Jones (2013)
Underworld series (2003-2017)
Soulmate (2013)
Spike (2008)
Bernard Rose's Frankenstein (2015)
So funny how the whole marketing around this film was "watch this before Disney sues it out of existence!" and then Disney just ended up not caring in the slightest
Which was kind of genius on Disney's part. Because if your marketing is "Disney doesn't want you to see this!" and then Disney makes it clear they don't care if you see it? Then the movie loses.
@@joshkaid
It’s because the seemingly great idea he had, the film is annoying, and boring at times, with the Disney part, having little to do with anything.
They were counting SO hard on the free marketing, and it's honestly surprising that Disney didn't fall for it considering how overprotective and litigious they are over their IPs.
@@CorbCorbinyeah I think Disney had the foresight to say oh this is a terrible movie and now the movie's claim to fame is that movie where they filmed illegally in the Disney Parks.
And when that failed they started stealing the monetization of reviews of Escape from Tomorrow
What a cool movie this could be if it was from the kid's perspectives. A seemingly magical day out with your family slowly unraveling into a resentful nightmare of a day out as you realize your parents are not only not enjoying themselves but are becoming angrier and angrier with each other until it bubbles over onto you. The park morphing into a frightening and unwelcoming place
I agree - think of the real life horror of being a child when one of your parents is abusive - you know something about them or the way they are treating you isn’t quite right, but as a child you dont know why. This film could have tackled this from the child’s lens and how a fun day at the park contrasts with looming anxiety created from the parent. But it ends up being vague horror garbage.
Right, there's a great concept buried in the pitch and this movie absolutely fails it.
Sounds like something that would happen in a RL Stine Horrorland book
I like this idea, it would have been better.
Sounds like a normal summer vacation to me.
To be fair, having to wait in the long lines in the hot Florida sun with screaming kids everywhere is a horror piece on its own.
Eh, sure, but you can easily schedule your trip during a time of the year when it's not hotter than Satan's ballsack and not that crowded with tourists. Or just don't go. That's always an option.
@@cannibalisticrequiem The only time I’ve ever found the best is about the second or third week in January. It only gets to about 85 F at the highest and it’s a lot less crowded.
More torture porn in that one sentence than the whole screenplay of Saw
@@cannibalisticrequiemDisney is never not covered in tourists, dude. It’s also in FLORIDA, it’s never not scorching there
Fun Fact: Director Randy Moore had the actors ride through the "It's a Small World" attraction 12 times to get one scene right.
Oh good lord 😭 that song was probably engraved in there heads I can imagine.
It’s a small world after all 🎵🔊
cruel and unusual
that was also a skit in the Simpsons wasn't it?
well that song does induce anger and violence... it's perfect to get into the right mindset for filming a horror movie
Someone on Some Jerk With a Cameras review of it called it “softcore porn for people who hate themselves” and i think thats the most accurate description of this
Also randy moore “lives in fear of getting sued by disney” but when he did review it Some Jerk noted that disney, in ALL his many years of reviewing their parks, rides, and films, had never Once sent him a copyright strike
Randy Moore sent him Two
And it was for the It’s a Small World sequence.
and from what I remember he was pretty quick to do it too
Small PP energy
Ryan's retrospective review of "Escape from Tomorrow" is more entertaining than the movie itself.
So is Tony Goldmark's review. If you've never seen it I highly recommend it
Yeah, and much better than Garret's review.
It’s wild that Randy Moore had a rubbish family holiday at Disneyland and decided it to make it all our problem.
In interviews he also wanted to make a point that we knew it was also rooted in his daddy issues.
@@bigbearkat2010men will do anything except go to therapy: the movie!
I'm filled with the sudden urge to hate other people's happiness!
"You don't get, man! Look at all those sheeple! I bet I'm not the only guy who creepily lusted over the Disney Princesses while on a lame family trip!"
Disney absolutely made the right move with ignoring this movie. Not only did it prevent the Streisand Effect but by letting people see for themselves how terrible it was, it killed all hype about itself.
And the dude kind of became what he claimed to hate by putting copyright strikes on people that reviewed his movie
I feel like Disney probably watched the film, realized it was mostly a self-important student film about how "Local Man Hates Amusement Parks And His Wife" and just let it die, leaving it to be picked over by video essayists years later. Nothing more punishing for a man demanding attention to be utterly denied it.
Wouldn't be surprised if Disney higher ups watch this every so often and just laugh at how they entirely ruined any publicity the film might have had by not saying anything at all about it.
Fun Fact: This is this directors only film.
He entered the film world just to spite Disney in an edgy way and was like "Yep, that's it. No need to follow that up."
Wow real mature grown man eh?
Absolute legend
This actually raises my opinion of him. Admittedly my opinion couldn't really get any lower but still
This actually raises my opinion of him. Admittedly my opinion couldn't really get any lower but still
@@SpoopySquido, that would be Tony Goldmark who made an entire UA-cam series using this same gimmick for several years. He now makes a podcast reviewing random Disney Pluss content. I wouldn't call him a shill though considering he's very vocal about Disney's actual faults.
This movie kind of reeks of "edgy pretentiousness", with the only thing going on being "look guys look! Disney's lawyers are just standing there... MENACINGLY!".
Which they been banking on that and marketing the film as the film disney wont let you see and “greatest” guerrilla film ever made
Disney made a right call to not give randy his marketing push and bringing in the striesand effect that he craved
Although randy in turn was a hypocrite and blocked many reviews of his film which in turn guaranteed no one will ever give a fuck about him and the film.
Especially when lets be honest what the fuck is wrong with him writing the character having a fixation on those two girls who wife said they are bit younger then he is. Like wtf
The entire movie could just been him lookin at the camera and saying "have you considered...Disney bad" and it would've said more and said it more subtlety
Subtly*
One of the weirdest things about Randy you get from listening to interviews with him is how much he genuinely believes that stupid old rumor that the giant turkey legs are really emu, he has the witch lady bring it up because it's wholeheartedly what he believes
Wait, really? He really believes that?
I never get conspiracy theorists. Most of their theories unravel as soon as you pull on one of the loose threads hanging out.
@@animeotaku307 There's an analogy I learned of that I think of when discussing how a conspiracy theory propagates, and the basic summary is picturing the belief as the base of a table, and pieces of evidence as the legs. A table needs a strong foundation to be sturdy, to be considered a table. In some instances it turns out these legs just _aren't there,_ that this table has no legs to stand on and thus stops being a table, but when people become emotionally invested in believing something to be true, they will work backwards, insisting that these unsubstantiated claims are indeed real legs, and this is not a plank of wood with nothing to support it, but a real, honest-to-god table. All of these claims are completely interchangeable with eachother, you take one of the legs away and they just put another one in its place, having a theoretically infinite amount of baseless justifications for their beliefs. They become so invested in believing something to be true, that it becomes harder and harder for them to admit they were wrong.
@@animeotaku307 The problem with conspiracy theorists is that the few conspiracies that end up proven true eventually but this only happens with the more reasonable, less bat shit crazy conspiracies out there. The broken clock is right twice a day, but they take it as confirmation that if one conspiracy is true, the others must be as well, so they will defend even the most loosely constructed and easily debunked conspiracy, just waiting for time to prove them right but they forget that 8/10 conspiracies end up being complete bullshit usually. There's a also a line between say thinking the CIA killed JFK vs thinking 5G will mind control you and give you super cancer, the first one is believed by a lot of people, while the other is only believed by absolute lunatics.
I think you’re giving it more credit than it deserves
There's a history with Disney, where they don't call out certain copyright infringements, when they feel that it would just bring more unwanted attention to the product. This is risky, though, as you have to protect your copyrights to keep them, but that's a risk they have taken in the past as well. There's a documentary on this, but I can't remember it's name right now.
You have to protect trademarks to keep them, not copyright.
It's amazing how the image of the guy with cat eyes on the thumbnail of this video is by far the scariest thing in this entire "Horror" movie. It's a shame too, because this movie had potential to be something amazing, especially with the right script involved.
And then you imagine the outro to Thriller playing over it. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I don’t know man. That scene of Epcot rolling towards the audience hit me with extreme fear. I hated stationary Epcot ball and a rolling one is sheer nightmare fuel.
I swear to God
There is a short horror movie that was filmed on the Haunted Mansion ride that's pretty decent. It was also done in a guerrilla style
I think I remember someone trying to do a full-length movie similar to this one, but apparently the guy stopped because it was annoying having to re-shoot scenes on the rides by waiting in line every time he needed to re-shoot scenes. I think he said that 20 seconds of footage would require a full day of work.
Genuinely shocked you were able to make this sound like a movie that had any real thought put into it. Can't wait to see what you review next!
My coworker was there one of the days they were filming & she said as the main dude running around looking bothered & confused her dad was going to check & see if he was okay but he saw the camera filming around him & decided against it. Good thing he did
This was totally unexpected, but I love that you manage to eek meaning out of even infamously disliked films. Fascinatingly, I heard that in an interview the lead actor believed he was acting in a comedy.
The fact that Randy thought Jim was likable is still baffling. It's an intetesting read on the film even if you have to disregard most of Randy's own intentions to get there. Death of the author ect
Man, the director and the lead actor are so messed up. They think he's this likable everyman. But instead he's basically a sex offender stalking two underage girls for half the film. This film is just... so much ick. And not like fun, intentional ick. Like the ick that a sex offender would make thinking everyone thinks the same.
@@TheMadAfrican1 yeeeep... And the wife comments that the girls are "a little young Jim. Even for you." at one point so Disney is definetly not responsible for that part of his behavior
etc.*
Randy may have some issues with women...
lmao my parents took me and my brother to disney as our last family vacation before announcing their divorce, there really is something to parents seeing disney as a way to give their kids nice memories right before a marriage fails
Lmfaooooo mine did too and it doubled as my first ever trip too 🥴😂
My dad did it before telling us he had cancer
"Welcome to Disneyland! Screw you, here's some real life tragedy. Now go buy a Mickey hat."
Jenny Nicholson's video on this on ("Escape from Tomorrow is a dumb exercise in misery") is a good watch for another perspective on the film
She goes a lot into it’s production and creator intent
Would recommend berberian sound studio, about a foley artist who goes to work on horror movies and his mind slowly begins to deteriorate. It's really criminally underrated
I’m shocked you managed to describe this movie as a movie at all because when I watched it I distinctly remember it just being absolute shit
I think this video and Jenny Nicholson's are the most press this film has received since the year it came out. And that's for the best
Some Jerk With a Camera also did a review of the film years ago.
Jay from RLM did a short review but his thoughts on it pretty much mirror everyone elses
It's easy to forget, but I remember this film actually getting a ton of press for a while when it was released. It was definitely talked about and promoted a decent amount long before Jenny made her video.
The problem was that, like, so was the guy who got his pecker chopped off by his angry wife while he was sleeping. There's a lot of things that get a ton of press but the press just doesn't lead to anything substantial so those stories kinda get forgotten.
The movie wasn't all that easy to find, and couldn't really be sold or distributed. So, people would hear about this movie and just not be able to watch it, which is why the actual film hasn't been seen by a lot of people even though most people are aware on some level of a horror movie that was secretly filmed at Disneyland.
That and the band New Years Day raved about it during the release. I remember they constantly talked about it on Instagram.
My favorite part of this movie was when Jenny Nicholson made a brutal takedown about it and also delved into Randy Moores odd quirks. But yeah, this movie is not what I'd consider Lynchian or surreal. It just seems pretentious and cynical, which is a bummer since it seems like it had real potential based on the premise.
Her video is great!
😡 my mortal enemy, that fraud randy moore 😡
Yes, this. Her video is hilarious and amazing!
You mean that fraud, Randy Moore?
I've watched Jenny's video about three or four times since it released, and I almost skipped Ryan's as a result. Not because I didn't want to hear what he had to say about it, but simply because Jenny skewered the film so thoroughly for me, that I can't imagine anyone taking it seriously. Bless Ryan for trying I guess?
I sort of get the idea of the gimmick - however I can’t help but think running through the park disrupting the days of people just trying to spend the day with their families and taking up a disability seat specifically to put an actor in to make fun of people using them feels kind of scummy
Damn, the one time someone was relying on the Streisand effect, Disney actually managed to keep their toys in their pram
Figures that a creepypasta has a more interesting, consistent, and in depth subversion of Disney than a movie clearly doing it to get attention as opposed to really saying anything.
God yes, Abandoned by Disney all the way man
@@kellydavis3219 I'd love to see a film adaptation of Abandoned by Disney.
@@MSinistrari or of Room Zero
"Shut the door, dear, you're letting out the cold."
I personally didn’t care for Abandoned by Disney, but I weirdly enjoyed I Was Visited By the Disney Legal Team.
And ironically both authors kinda come off as tools if you don't see their work as anything but great. Slimebeast's work IS better than this though, I'll give him that much.
I feel you've given this movie too much credit.
This is one of those rare times where I can probably say that there’s Creepypastas that are scarier than this.
I know for a fact there are. Hell, the original Disney creepypasta is way better than this.
It's at least tonally consistent
I remember hearing about this movie and looking it up on Wikipedia years ago.
Never watched the movie, but from the wiki and pictures alone, it felt so fucking surreal.
Imo there’s so many actual things that we can and should criticize Disney for. The treatment and low pay of workers. The attacks on smaller creators, etc. I feel like Randy, in addition to making what is in my opinion a bad movie, glosses over actual problems with the corporation and just focuses on…things that probably were just mildly annoying to him when he went with his family (weird food, pushy employees, and uh…his kind of gross fixation on overweight guests using mobility aids…) it just feels so “I’m 12 and this is edgy.”
The closest he gets to legitimate criticism is the whole “the Disney Princesses are escorts” part, but with how women in the film are treated overall it just feels like a random conspiracy instead of any real critique.
Absolutely agree. If he set out to make a critique on Disney's corporate practises, he failed.
@@animeotaku307 Honestly as a florida resident and as a young woman who does musical theatre that whole conspiracy never flew with me because I KNOW so many women who were princess performers. I would have applied myself but I’m an inch too tall lol
@@animeotaku307 I haven't seen the movie nor will I, but that leads me to wonder if the framing is to posit a conspiracy/critique about Disney, or to shame sex work. Or both, could be both.
@@groofay in all fairness to randy, I doubt he wanted to shame sex workers, it was less of the conservative moral panic variant and more of the moderate liberal “WOAH ISNT THAT WHACKY?!!!” variant
As an IP attorney Disney did the smartest thing when it comes to there intellectual property rights. It would hurt them more to actually engage with this movie. Might as well let them be in obscurity. Great video.
The devil works hard, but Ryan trying to give this movie substance works harder.
I don't think you've done the 1977 Japanese unique horror movie "House" yet... That's a must review, and great to get that movie more exposure to your audience. Won't disappoint!!!
I wanna see this concept and these ideas done by a more competent director. Wouldn’t even have to be “about” Disney or take place at a Disney park. A Lynchian story about a depressed dad and/or mom trying to take their kids out for a family vacation while their lives fall apart and their insecurities come to the surface sounds like it would be a good movie.
*evil laughs in The Shining*
The idea of a surreal horror movie set in a happy cheery theme park is such a good idea that it makes the mediocrity of the actual product stand out so much more.
This is definitely one of those movies that is more “fascinating” than “good”. I watched it on netflix years ago and it definitely has a place in my memory but I doubt would ever watch it again.
I remember watching Some Jerk With a Camera's review of this movie and he...didn't have a lot of good things to say about it. Isn't it that strange film that tried to spread a bunch of debunked conspiracy theories about Disneyland? Like that their chicken legs are actually emu? Man, even listening to someone trying to make sense of it makes me feel like i'm in a fever dream.
Yup, it’s the same one.
Dude, I'd love it if they served emu legs at the park. Emu is tasty af.
I think _Escape from Tomorrow_ honestly falls flat because it’s so… basic in its execution.
The guerrilla style filming is probably the most unique thing about the film, because other than that it just falls into the generic _Disney is actually Evil and Dark and Bad and Oh, isn’t it scary just how Edgy and Scary the whole thing is?_ trope and carries about as much depth as a kiddie pool.
I’m also not very fond of completely hopeless endings. Subverting Jim’s initial character from just a frustrated father down on his luck to being a scumbag is fine, but him dying at the end after his rescuing of his daughter and breaking away from the spell really rubs me the wrong way, even though it displays the only real unsettling image in the entire film.
Ryan Hollinger really said "never a bad time to rewatch that one Jenny Nicholson video and by inevitable consequence every single one of her other videos" RIP my night
This movie is- well, guilty pleasure is the wrong word, I don’t enjoy it on its own- some kind of ironic masterpiece to me. It’s so self-satisfied and stupid, but entertaining like an old MST3K movie. It’s incredibly fun to subject your friends to a film like this.
If the word "pretentious" was a film.
Another film I have never heard of before or would have thought to watch added to the watch list. Thanks Ryan for giving consistent quality and really reinvigorating my love and exploration of the genre!!
So one horror series I think you should do a video on that NEVER gets any love, despite being very similar to Terrifier is ‘Hatchet’. The Hatchet series is such a fun turn off your brain film series that never gets enough love. I’d love to hear your thoughts on it, honestly.
Can you please review As Above So Below? It’s about a group of explorers and archaeologists venturing into the Paris Catacombs and eventually they travel so deep into it they end up in Hell. If you haven’t seen it already I think you might find it interesting
I remember Ryan mentioning it in his review of The Pyramid. He had some positive things to say about it.
Then again, he was also reviewing The Pyramid. Anything would have been better.
Honestly? A someone who has been to Disney land a few times, I can’t remember a trip where there weren’t fights amongst my family. Possibly the first trip when I was like 5 or 6. I defiantly have many extremely happy memories there, but there’s often this underlying current of “this happened just before/after a fight.” This movie reminds me of the people who insist that Disney uses pheromones or subliminal psychology to “force” people to be happy. There’s this idea that Disney is sinister and in trying to force happiness is somehow abusing or manipulating it’s guests. When what it comes down, imo, is that when you have family issues during vacation it feels extra shitty. There are so many valid critiques of Disney parks and the brand as a whole, but this one just doesn’t work for me.
I mean disney is very obviously using subliminal psychology to affect the attendees through extreme control of the parks environment. It's not mind control or anything but small manipulations of the surroundings to maintain the "happiest place on earth" look.
But there's also other factors that lead to these fights such as the expectation of happiness, bottling up emotions for the sake of making a "good family trip" as well as because you've spent a lot of money to be there, like this vacation is gonna fix those problems. When these expectations fall apart they make whatever problems erupt. Then you also just got other irritations such as high prices on food/souvenires, long lines, and warm weather, which doesn't make things easier.
Honestly, I think that the biggest problem with this theory is that it forgets that a lot people are really good at masking their emotions. You can probably find thousands of people who saw their parents dramatically change their behavior when entering or exiting public settings.
Jenny Nicholson has a great video about this "film" and how creepy it is lol
I remember hearing about this movie on "Some Jerk With a Camera." It had an interesting permission until it fell apart near the end.
Jenny Nicolson's breakdown on this was also brilliant.
Would love to see a video on Audition or Ichi the Killer
theres something so hilariously embarrassing about building your entire marketing off of how youre doing something that could easy piss off a major company and then your product being so absolutely nothing that even said company wont even sneeze in your direction because who cares
Ryan! Please review “Stay Alive” a 2006 Horror film that is Technically a Disney Slasher film. “If you die in the game, you die for real”
Some day!
I don’t usually take reviews to heart but the one I saw stuck with me about the movie and I’ll paraphrase it, ‘how the movie was made is more interesting than the movie itself.’
God I remember when Jenny Nicholson reviewed this POS years ago that was a funny vid 😂
That’s how I found out about it.
So did Tony Goldmark
Has she slept with you yet tho?
One of the rare times where the Cooperation gets a well deserved W. Giving the director nothing of what he wanted and made him not a Martyr, but a thing you would just shrug and walk away from.
And even people that hate Disney on principle just seem to accept the movie is a pretentious turd and the director is a wannabe edgelord with the nuance of the goth kids from South Park
Randy thinks he’s the prophet writing on subway walls when really, he’s the guy you glance at in Walmart.
I remember this doing the rounds when i was back in Uni and it was treated like some mythical underground thing sticking it to the man. By people that never saw it. Anyone that did just kind of shrugged it off as pure marketing covering something that feels like the sort of film tim and eric would have made a fake trailer for back in the day.
To this movie's credit, it did achieve one thing. It made Jenny Nicholson the most angry I've ever seen her, by a mile.
I'd love to see Ryan cover 'Melancholia'
Finally! Now when I'm bored and want to re-experience Randy Moore's..."film" I have 2 videos to watch! This and Jenny Nicholson's videos gave this movie more attention an Disney ever did, lol
Tony Goldmark/some jerk with a camera has some videos on it too - there’s an appearance from one of the extras in it too! It’s a bit “TGWTG” in style, but still good fun.
@@thepanpiper7715 It also handles the message of escapism and exploring a man’s complicated feelings about Disney way better.
@@animeotaku307Yeah. Tony, Ryan and Jenny all put WAY more thought and heart into this movie than Moore ever did.
You should cover the video game Until Dawn or The Quarry. They're interactive horror movies essentially. I find them really interesting and you've covered video games in the past, so it isn't much of a stretch.
Ryan: this movie ultimately is ok, nothing stellar though.
Also Ryan: proceeds to relay an in depth interpretation of the movies plot and visuals which in turn makes it ironically intriguing 😅
Yeah, my take on this movie is almost exactly the same as yours. It feels like it should have been so much better than it actually was, but it was just too scattershot. Individual moments and images work, but as a film, it puffs itself up but then deflates like a ruined souffle.
There's a line in the film that always stuck with me. The lady Jim talks to reveals that they aren't eating turkey legs, and it's actually emu legs that Disney buys. Because emu legs are larger.
Except, as Tony Goldmark broke down in his video on the film, it falls apart when you calculate how many emu would have to be farmed in order to sustain the approximately 1.6 million turkey legs sold every year.
day just got about 10x better, cheers ryan
I'll be honest, I tried to watch this a few year's back and had to turn it off about halfway through. I'll say no more. Your video was useful in that it scratched an itch I didn't know I had to know what happened - and I'm glad I turned it off!
I’m glad I’m not the only one spending a not insignificant amount of time lounging around obsessing over In Times New Roman…
Escape from Tomorrow: The secret horror film made without Disney's permission, emphasis on SECRET.
Ryan, writing up his essay for it: *HOYEVER.*
I remember watching Jenny Nicholson talk about this movie. She showed multiple interviews from the director(?) and he kept repeating the same shit over and over and over to promote the movie. It came off as so pretentious when the film itself lacks any nuance.
oh my god one of my friends brought this to bad movie night... we were all just baffled with it! thank you for reminding me of its existence, ryan! I'm sending this to my group for a walk down the most insane memory lane
Abel Korzeniowski's soundtrack for this is amazing!
From the title i almost thought it was going to be Return to Oz
So, basically, this is one of those films where a remake would make a lot of sense. The premise is quite interesting, but of course the talent behind and in front of the camera was not up to part. I know that those who have watched it basically call it pretentious and just... bad, but you made so many interesting points about it that I feel it's a film that deserves some credit. Imagine someone like Ari Aster or Mike Flanagan remaking it...
As always, really cool to hear your thoughts on an obscure horror film.
Always so good to see another video from Ryan and learn about new movies
“Oh shit, you want me to explain that.” 😂
You have much more respect and patience for this mess of a film than I ever could. Someone once summed it up as, “This dude had one crappy trip to Disney World with his family so he decided to make an entire movie about it.”
I can’t really see the depth you grasped from this film, hoyever, I do genuinely applaud you for finding it. I’ve always seen this as a shallow attempt at putting an edgy spin onto the Disney experience. “What of Disney was this evil corporation?” It’s comical on paper and has been done to death and the only new thing this film really provides is a weird new strain of the flu that people die by.
14:36 my dad works for Siemens, and in america it's pronounced exactly the same as thr male bodily fluid. Now i want to show him this movie to see if he spills company secrets hahaha
Didn’t know this was a horror film! Only heard about its reputation as a guerrilla film. Cool!
Well... """""horror"""""
@@RyanHollinger True, true, lol
@@RyanHollinger
“Horror-ish”
“Horror-like”
“Horror-adjacent”
“Horror substitute”
“I can’t believe it’s not Horror”
“Horror Lite”
“Horror Zero”
“Gluten-free Horror”
“Cruelty-free Horror”
“Free Range Horror”
“Impossible Horror”
“The genre formerly known as Horror”
“Crystal Pepsi”
I’m super interested to see you cover the Peter Jackson splatter trilogy and how the shaped Jackson into later directing the Hobbit. Plus hearing your thoughts on Meet the Feebles might be a great once in a lifetime chance to break the mental love of puppets.
I hate it when movies have a good concept that gets ruined by bad writing, directing, and acting.
Ryan seems like the kind of guy who'd examine "Plan 9 From Outer Space" like it was "The Shining".
Honestly expected this comments section to be filled with defenders of this movie, but it seems to be just people dumping on it.
I think it might be because the whole “the movie Disney doesn’t want you to see!” overhyped it, so when people actually saw it they were even more disappointed. Surreal post-modern stuff doesn’t get a lot of people interested and the people who are interested are usually looking for a point to it. And this film, by the director’s own admission, didn’t have much of one.
This one was a 'not for me'. I was too busy wondering how they managed to film everything and being annoyed at the father and being distracted by the special effects (and the CGI backgrounds) to really appreciate the movie itself. As someone already pointed out, I wonder what a movie like this would be like if it was told from the perspective of the kids.
When i was being an extra in a short film, i described this movie on set to one of the other extras. The premise truly disturbed him.
How about the Hell House LLC series or the Firefly Saga from Rob Zombie next? Love your videos!
BLUE Raycons, Ryan? How could you. I thought you were a RED RAYCON kinda guy. And to think I trusted your judgment.
10/10 I can't believe you'd do that.
In concept, I like a lot of the stuff the film is trying to do, like making the dad a creepy pervert going through a mental breakdown, the surreal black and white cinematograph and tone , the idea of Disney as a sinister opioid-of-the-the people style conspiracy, but the execution of it makes it at best an underwhelming gimmick or at worst, a pretentiously hollow “we live in a society” mediocre satire
[Director edited the film in South Korea to hide from Disney]
Your film really isn’t that important, bro
As someone who has family that goes to Disney california alot , this feels so surreal seeing a surreal horror using the park families go to consistently
It's been years since I've seen the film.
I remember the ending being like heaven or something and he's with his family but his son is missing. And it always bothered me that the son is gone.
Was it because his son left him to die or because he seemed to like his son less than his daughter
I don’t normally leave comments, but I feel like I would love to see you talk about the Lady Snowblood films and how it affected the revenge film genre.
Meiko Kaji really isn’t talked enough and I think you would have a deep appreciation for these beautiful films.
Do videos on House, Beau is Afraid, Funny Games, American Mary, or Evil Dead Rise!
Disney is actually said more than once because the main character at one point name checks Disney World
Please watch + cover Deadstream!!!!
I loved watching another youtuber cover this weird film - I rewatch Jenny Nicholson’s vid on escape from tomorrow so often. There was just so much going on behind the scenes only for Disney to completely ignore it
Going off this review, the spoiler section specifically, it feels like the movie isn't as deep as it thinks it is. All it seems to be saying is "the happiest place on earth isn't that happy". It's just a very surface level critique of Disney.
I’ve listened to In Times New Roman front to back at least twice a day, not to mention playing my favorite tracks of that day even more.
QotSA greatest band of our generation. Josh Homme greatest musician of our generation.
The way you described/interpreted the movie is significantly more interesting & entertaining than the actual movie
I regularly think about this film but never remember the title or how to sun up what it was about, so come to the conclusion that there’s no way it was real and I dreamt it. Good to see other people have seen this fever dream
Hey Ryan, would love to see you cover the Canadian classic Videodrome by Cronenberg, I feel like you'd have a great take and it would fit the channel well
Loved this. Coulda sworn the daughter was dressed as snow white, not sleeping beauty. But I haven't watched the film either, so maybe they made the allegory in the script. Either way, I loved this.
What I find most frustrating about this film is that Disney has done a ton of fucked up stuff that could be made into a horror story (the fact that no one is allowed to be declared dead in park grounds, the sheer number of people who release ashes in the haunted mansion, the urban legend of skeletons in the pirates ride) but no. The writer decided to just make shit up.
The Haunted Mansion one is *not* Disney's fault, they don't want anyone's remains in the park. You get a lifetime ban if you're caught, and the Haunted Mansion gets routinely vacuumed specifically to clean up ashes.