Let's talk about what happens if Trump gets indicted....
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He's relying on his base to make so much trouble that they have to release him. He can't continue to be the center of attention if he flees the country.
Will definitely be buying Wednesdays newspaper for keepsake.
@@E3ECO his base better behave..or they may have to pay the ultimate price for their king nazi! I hope they choose their actions wisely 😉
@BennilocoLoves they'll get kid gloves treatment.
@@dirtydish6642 I used to do that. My collection of newspapers, major events going back to the JFK assassination. When I pass they're going to our local museum.
That p.o.s. last night even saying "Protest" again. I hope the Judge puts a Full On GAG ORDER on Trump n his legal team.
I hope the *law-enforcement officials are ready to deal with his supporters. The way they dealt with the Black Lives Matter movement that is teargas riot, shields and billy clubs.* .. _none of this preferential white treatment as they did for the insurrectionists on the sixth of Taking pictures or video, letting them go, and prosecuting them later._
Typical leftist response: let's take away free speech that we don't like.
This reminds me of a comment I made in a reddit sub that keeps tabs on the qanon movement. I said that if the so-called "deep state" really is as powerful as they claim, then what's stopping them from hiring someone who'd break his hands and vocal chords Tonya Harding style? He'd no longer be able to communicate with the world while it mitigates the potential for him to become a martyr.
@@nealskrenes2612 Can you imagine, attacking the capitol, shitting on the floors, chasing congress people, killing cops, etc...............then being told to go on home.
@@nealskrenes2612 Retired County sheriff here. West Michigan. I agree. Generally in my time,,lists of protests especially in late 60s,70s. We're 100% peaceful. Just as the BLM,George Floyd's were. You do crowd control Sternly but No abusive,violently. It can be done. As I lived it.
I hope the arresting officers remember that Trump approves of not protecting the “bad guys” heads when putting them in the squad car.
The speech was to law enforcement:
“President Donald Trump speaks at Suffolk Community College, July 28, 2017, in Brentwood, New York.”
Smashing Pumpkins…..the band…🤣 Sang a song called “Rat in a Cage”. Cannibalistic activities ensue…😂 edit: I should have said a line from the song Bullet with Butterfly Wings is… “rat in a cage”.
@@Andrea.1tree despite all my rage
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That's just it, they planned his arrest for Tuesday so that we never get to see that or him in cuffs. Boooo
People in Europe are wondering why he's not in prison let alone being eligible to run again!
Because America is in a mess, and if Republicans win the election in 2024 then things will get exponentially worse.
Apparently “people in Europe” could care less about holding Biden accountable. What kind of people are these?? Millions paid out by China to Biden and family- but that’s ok because orange man bad.
I was talking to a coworker about this, and he was excitedly telling me how the constitution doesn’t have a way to deal with this, so Trump has nothing to stop him. My immediate response was “the constitution doesn’t cover it because the founding fathers never expected us to be stupid enough to need those provisions”. Hell, the constitution was drafted in a time when having an affair was enough to IMMEDIATELY end your chances of being the president (lookin at you Hamilton).
Grover Cleveland ran and won in the face of a huge scandal involving a very real illegitimate child he had fathered. This during a time when the country was much more prudish than it was during the early decades after the Revolution, never mind today.
WHAT DID HE SAY WHEN YOU POINTED OUT THAT CHEETO NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT?
@@alanai1981 I haven’t been down that road with him cause it doesn’t matter. Anyone focused on “he never should’ve been president the first time” is fighting the wrong fight. Focus on his actions during and after. Given the lackluster response from his base when he announced he was gonna be arrested, the efforts are working. Less and less people are willing to actually back him. There’s gonna be lots of keyboard warriors and dumb uncles, but they’re more trying to save face cause they don’t want to admit they were wrong.
If the GOP was a person, it would have the honesty of George Santos, the brains of Lauren Boebert, the compassion of Marjorie Taylor Greene, the morals of Matt Gaetz, the integrity of Lindsey Graham, the spine of Kevin McCarthy and the personality of tRump.
🤣👍
Fantastic but very scary anology!
I probably would have described Trump as the anal passage, full diaper included
Real Ugly .
So actually the GOP is a person.
'What happens then?'
Same thing that always happens: Trump screams persicution while begging for money.
And the drinkers of the orange koolaid will send their trailer park rent money, load up their guns, and show up . . . somewhere . . . to protest violently. Maybe this time capitol cops will have loaded guns. America is so sick of this maggot moronic idiocy. Indict, try and imprison this creature already.
Exactly
grifting to the lowest common denominator of society must be fun as long as you don't have any morals
The hunted witch gets her mugshots Tuesday. Now I understand tfg's pronoun is "her". She has called herself a "hunted witch" for years. Let us honor her, now.
He is, predictably, already doing that on his social media platforms.
The courts better hurry with the"imminent" indictments.
I will believe it when I see it
If they put him in handcuffs on TV then he will get reected as president. I am sure of it. After what they did with raid on Trumps home compared to Hunter sitting on boxes of classified material with no raid. Trump looks better every day in comparision
They are hoping that, when the indictment is released, America will be done w/him. They just want his DNA. Ir will prove he's a rapist.
Narcissists never bow out. It's more typical for them to go down in flames and take as many other people with them as they can.
@Mark Vogel... Exactly! They believe they're never wrong, everyone else is. Wonder what trick he's going to pull out his sleeve?
Do you believe that you are qualified to determine if someone is a narcissist? Maybe they’re almost as important as they think they are?
@@MS-ns2pj If you knew anything about narcissism, you would know that he is a narcissist. It’s not rocket science in this case, it’s extremely obvious.
@@DG-uh8uv he's pretty much a textbook example of a malignant narcissist. Checks all the boxes.
@@DG-uh8uv Narcissism is having an excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical appearance. Understanding personality traits and what they mean is part of my education, teaming, and experience. I had to learn in order to qualify for my chosen MOS’s. I became an expert in my field. I know enough about narcissism to know that you do not know enough. Do you have the required education, training, and experience to know what you’re talking about? I don’t think you do. Yes, your feelings are indeed extremely obvious, but feelings are not facts.
The GOP has a rotting albatross around their neck and have had so many chances to shed the burden. This is going to be one, hot mess.
Trump is a symptom of the rot in the GOP not its cause.
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Mitch McConnell? Lol
Dumpster fire in the middle warehouse full of explosives comes to mind.
They're all in on it. NDAs through the ying yang. When Trump makes a plea deal, he's gonna spill on all the sycophants who committed crimes with him, just wait.
The entire world is waiting for American accountability.
For more than just Trump?
For the war crimes as well?
Might be a long wait.
Long wait for a train that won't come, to quote Malcom Reynolds....
Best get comfy
I noticed you didn't use the word "justice". Subconsciously you believe justice is out of reach.
Even if it's a misdemeanor charge.
He'll get a fine someone else will pay. Then a bump from his traitorous criminal base.
The fact that we have to ask ourselves these questions as a country right now just blows me away.
I hope they hold him and his enablers accountable!
What will convict Donald Trump ??? His own Mouth 👍
Imagine if instead he put all that energy into being vegan or doing CrossFit??
@@arnameyer3658 vegetables and exercise. These are his kryptonite. Well, that and porn stars
Boy, do I wish that were true. It sure hasn't done him in yet and he's said many, many reprehensible things 😢
It's a shame that moral corruption does not manifest itself physically. TFG would be a walking rotting corpse.
Need gag order on him
Trump often complains that no President has ever been treated the way he has. The simple fact is that we have never HAD a President like him. But unless we find a way to hold him accountable, there will be more like him.
Yes. The American people need to draw a line in front of unacceptable behavior, not treat it like some sort of political game.
You're right. And next time a smarter version might succeed. This must not happen.
DeSantis is scary
Well-said
Yeah, other democracies have had leaders like him and it seems to recur...😢
I love how Beau describes all these really crazy, potentially horrible scenarios for the American people and ends with, 'Y'all have a good day!' :)
Eh, he’s ruled by his emotions.
I'd be willing to bet that many of the same people who'd vote for 45 even if he was convicted believe that convicted felons should lose their right to vote (even if they've served their sentence.) Though I've always found it bizarre that in the US, a felony conviction can bar someone from being able to vote (in some states), but not from running for-or even holding- a political office.
I'm beginning to believe that it is easier for a camel to fit thru the eye of a needle, than it is for a wealthy man to actually spend time behind jail bars in America.
Especially if they're white. Or as in this case, orange.
Reference the Murdaugh trial…..
In the USA, all citizens of the USA are innocent until and unless they are proven to be guilty. The probity that the Democrats have had is that they haven’t been able to find enough evidence to support their accusations. Accusations alone will never qualify as proof. So they whine, cry, complain, minimize, shift blame, and lie, but get nowhere. Anyone with any experience with law enforcement or the courts in the USA will know that getting indicted doesn’t mean much.
Even if everything goes wrong for Trump, he’s arrested, goes through due process, is proven to be guilty, and convicted, as a first time offender, he would receive a presumptive sentence of probation. Trump will never go to jail. Anyone that believes otherwise simply doesn’t have enough experience to know any better.
Source: over 26 years of law enforcement and courtroom experience.
@@safe-keeper1042 So says the racist. Are you a bigot and a sexist as well?
Epstein did.
The fact we are even having this discussion is evidence of how far this country has fallen.
Why so many offensive ads and BS propaganda from UA-cam?
Has the google somehow misplaced all that personal information they collected about me?
No, I think the EVIL google is deliberately trying to offend me with those ads.
Those videos that Tucker showed of January 6th proves that we Democrats are willing to lie to stop Trump. We would have been so much better off if the FBI had arrest Tucker in some sort of trumped up charges before he could air that truth.
Fallen because the Orange traitor is still walking free.
Yeah, it really has. We need to rebuild and get a sense of unity back. He did more to divide our country then I have seen in 60 years. What seems like a possibility is like what happened in the Philippines with Marcos declaring Marshall law and it became a dictatorship regime. One thing in our favor is the constitution and an election can be held to get him out of office.
Yea.... Go ahead and vote for him.. what have you got to lose?.... Famous last words from seven years ago... Answer: everything....
People often stand behind someone who holds their beliefs until that person is actually held accountable. Then they "never knew him, never talked to this person in my life."
agreed. i always thought the only way to cure magats was trump being held accountable; it seems they worship him solely because he openly crimes & gets away with it
MAGA people will stick by Trump. My God did you ever listen to them roll off the huge list of things Trump did that they like. They worship him like a God. It would be hard to find a person that could list a bunch of Biden accomplishments then stand by him like he were the greatest president sense Calvin Coolidge
It has recently come to my attention that the phrase “May you live in interesting times” is meant to be a curse. This puzzled me for a time but now I understand.
That's how I first heard of it, as a curse.
I will believe justice still exists in the USA if he gets convicted.
It doesn't, but let's hope he does anyways.
Agreed…and if Biden doesn’t pardon his ass like ford did
I have zero faith in justice ever being done against that crook. I just hope it’s enough to keep him from power.
theterm american justice is an oxymoron
“May you live in interesting times” is actually a Chinese curse
Personal Request: When all of this criminality goes to trial twenty years from now, would someone kindly etch the outcomes on my tombstone?
I still fondly recall the days when what is now called "Trump's base" was still dismissed as "the lunatic fringe."
@dboatrig There was always a solid 20% conspiracy nutjobs that leaned right or libertarian (they exist on the left as well but there are fewer and they aren't voting for Trump). Trump and Right Wing media have captured another ~20% - a mix of religious zealots (many gun toting anti-abortionist that would shoot you for walking on their property.....irony....) and folks that have just gotten pulled into a well crafted marketing campaign and can't find their way out of it. The emails from Fox confirming the Big Lie is knocking small numbers out of the MAGA crowd - but I don't expect it to fall much more - many have their whole identity tied up in Trump and MAGA ideas. Facts don't matter to them - they just discount all sources that don't confirm their beliefs as "fake".
Just keep picturing him wearing an orange jumpsuit and silver bracelets! ❤️🙏❤️
He’s using what little platform he still has to call for violence. Thank you, Beau Again 🥰
Did you read Trump's truth social post? Nowhere in that post is there any call for violence. Fake News.
Always. It is the mob boss mentality.
Let them come, and armed, we can add more Ashli Babbitts to the pile
@@handmadehearts He already did it.
Everyone and their mother knows that if it was a democrat going through the same events, republicans would be throwing up roadblocks left and right to prevent that candidate from ever running, much less accept the win.
If it was democrat going through the same events, no significant portion of the party or the voters would throw support their way, they would have been asked to resign from whatever position they were occupying and certainly not backed for a new run.
Why should Democrats stop him from winning the Republican nomination? That is the business of the Republican Party. If they are too big of a bunch of wussies to do it, then they deserve what is coming to them.
Republicans are never troubled by their own hypocrisy.
If GOP selects him, the ones who sign their "loyalty pledge" should go to jail with him. 😂
Anyone that believes that Trump will go to jail does not understand enough about the rule of law, law enforcement, or the courts to have the ability to form a valid argument. No, Trump will not go to jail.
I’m more concerned about what happens if we do nothing at all. Do you know what kind of message that would send?
IF I were a judge, and The Dumbald asked for a delay so he could run, I would dust off a TON of established precedents, that all read:
"Justice delayed is Justice denied."
Lol, isn't that exactly what he wants though..denial of justice. But yes, we definitely want to see to it that he gets a fair and speedy trial in the best interest of justice.
The fact that someone can ask these questions in a serious way tells us that our "justice system" is unserious, but not in a funny way.
It's amazing how felons can't vote in some states but can still become effing president.
Unfortunately he is not yet a convicted felon. Hoping that will change soon.
Tiger king is though
It's amazing how they pursue a misdemeanor but the people on Epstein's flight logs are still free
@sangmang4919 I could argue that, since vanishingly few people ever run for it or become president, that the individual's right to vote is more important. But what are you getting at? The public's right to have trustworthy non-criminals in the highest office seems much more important than felons' right to aspire to that office.
It is truly an ironic fact that a convicted felon can become president of the USA if he fulfills the 5 basic rules to become president.
Could you imagine Republicans getting into criminal reform not because the current system needs reviewing, but because their potential nominee is forcing them to.
The Republicans traditionally believe in the rule of law. The Democrats traditionally do not.
Let his followers protest. They cry so beautifully at the sentencing.
There's no way he's held in a cell awaiting trial over the Stormy Daniels hush money case, so he's most likely going to be walking out of there (if he's arrested at all) claiming his "release" is evidence of his innocence. There is a real risk with the way he's playing his base right now, though. Any violence surrounding a pre-announced "arrest" makes his announcement look like incitement and lends additional credibility to the much more dangerous (to Trump) January 6 charges.
I couldn't care less. Their judgement with their vote never to be trusted again.
Let’s talk about what will happen if they DON’T indict him…
If they don't, the talk will be that Trump will be the next president.
What will happen?
Yes, let's! 😠
@@hugh261 Very funny.
If there is one thing you can count on Trump to do, it is break all the rules.
Well, as Leona Helmsley said "the rules are for the little people".
so, slick willie, oblow me and brandon are boy scouts?
@@MikeEWard Well certainly, compared to a demented, cultist, insurrectionist.
Absolutely. So is Nixon and Ragan. Honor scouts compared to Rump.
I'm betting on a slow-moving white Bronco endlessly circling through McDonalds drive-throughs.
This entire 7 years as felt like that slow chase, except a lot slower, with a million murdered 😢 instead of 2.. 🥺 And that murderer got away with it. We must not let this one get away! 😠
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that will be quite a sight to behold!
You are one funny man William!!!! Very good!! Hehehe
Oh, that's good. But a bad precedent..that SOB got away with it.
"Interesting times" is putting it mildly. Thanks, Beau.
All that needs to happen is a conviction , if they don't get it !!! God help us all as Americans !
I'm tired of living in "interesting times." How about we live and let live and leave each other alone?
If we didn't have people like Trump around it would be so much easier to do just that.
A note to trump sycophants
You cannot blindly support trump
And the American Constitution
At the same time.
Despite the fact that most of them can't spell constitution without spell check, and haven't read any of it, they would still disagree.
I could wish that said sycophants could _read_ the Constitution, or even its preamble!🤦♂️
@@erichbrough6097 Love your thoughts Erich. The problem I see is that anyone naïve enough to believe trump isn't going to read the Constitution. Big words you know...
Pretty sure they have no idea what "Sycophant" means. Unfortunately, they don't know how to look it up either.
I'm fairly sure they're aware of that and they don't, in fact, support the constitution. They'll use it if it fits, but that's about all
Our fore fathers could not have imagined this sad state of affairs. Sounds like we need a convention for updating the constitution.
What's crazy is that this type of thing should already be covered under the law. Isn't it just terrible that there are more laws that would keep someone from being a police dispatcher with a record than there is keeping someone out of the office of the presidency?
It should be covered under law, but unfortunately, until recently, honor had a great more meaning and stature. It was assumed that if you had any sort of honor, there would be absolutely no question as to whether or not you were eligible or even excepted as a candidate.
The level of Torture he would do if Donald Tramp becomes the 47th President is a nightmare for the American People. OMG 😤😤😤
For the whole damned world, Bye.
He won't, 8 million more voters didn't vote for him . In 2024 it will be like 12 million. Not sure how many Republicans died of covid because of trump .
It would be civil war.
Cause things are really going great right now..
@@gmsteele44 maybe we could keep it getting divorced. But since 70% of GDP comes from blue counties, if not states, alimony and child care will be difficult.
Just wanted to say hello and ty for all you do to keep us informed! here in Tucson AZ we appreciate you and all you do.
Only predictable thing will Trump will play the victim and call for his supporters to avenge him.
And ask for money.
I'm so tired of living in interesting times. I want boring, easy, slow times.
I agree with you Starla. The good ole' days are long behind us though. We as a nation have gone down a rabbit hole the last thirty years that we will never come out of.
Seriously. These past few years we've been living through multiple once in a lifetime events. We really are on the worst timeline but hopefully things will start getting better sooner rather than later. 😫
@@infinitecurlie I hope so as well. As an American living overseas I am often asked what the hell going on with the US. Even in countries that are our allies our sanity has been question. I remember my first year in South Korea there were massive protests about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There was actually a sigh of relief when President Obama won the 2008 election. People were just in disbelief after the 2016 election. We'll see.
lolololol
Our founding fathers never planned for someone who was both profoundly corrupt and profoundly shameless.
They didn't anticipate mass media combined with a disdain for education among a significant percentage of voters.
They may have considered that there would be a candidate that is corrupt and shameless, but what they could never have anticipated was that 70 million people just don't care and would vote for him anyway. More of an indictment on the American voter's recklessness.
And profoundly stupid. PAB is the perfect storm of deplorable.
They sort of did actually. Part of the intent behind the Electoral College was that it would serve as a final "circuit breaker" against that sort of thing.(They didn't have circuits back then but that was the idea.)
@@emsleywyatt3400 too bad the electoral college got all twisted out of shape so that it could not do its intended purpose. Though at the time it may not have been able to accomplish the intended purpose even if it hadn't been twisted as there were too many idiots that were party diehards regardless of the consequences.
Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the people who want to "return us to a better time" also want to be the first to knowingly choose a potential criminal to represent them?
I don't expect any congruence from the "wish upon a star" fabulists.
Republicans are never troubled by their own hypocrisy.
I am concerned that there is gonna be violence if/when he’s arrested, no matter the outcome of any trial
I hope that the followers he is calling to defend him remember that the last time he did so a thousand of them went to jail and he went to play golf.
This is an interesting time I would prefer not to be living through.
I just wanted to say I love your take on things , and watch every post you put up. Thank you for the great on-site and work you put in
the stupidity of having a system where a sitting president cant be charged with a crime is the epitome of "american exceptionalism"
Indeed.
The absolute stupidity!! Agreed!!
Hierarchy fails wherever it's tried.
The stupidity of being able to run for president while under investigation, or indictment, on multiple fronts, is going to have to be looked at.
A person couldnt get a job at a 7/11 with these problems, not even close.
Why in the F would we want an obvious criminal as president?
America's naivete is from another time.
Trump's supporters are not just gullible uneducated rednecks.
This proves they are accomplices and should have been treated as such from day one.
He will burn the party to the ground before he backs off
From your mouth to God's ear!
Yes there is no doubt because he is not a republican, he only cares about himself. That's why the other republicans are afraid of him because he has no low that he won't sink too. He would even lie about everyone in the party and try to take them down with him if he knew he was going down anyway. He really has no ideology whatsoever. Just a need for power and self aggrandizement. IMO.
And he will never back off.
He'll play puppetmaster from prison for as long as he can.
He’ll burn the country to the ground before he backs off.
Good👍😂
He’s calling on his supporters to protest. Like that worked out so well for them the first time. We’re going to need a bigger jail….
Look how that worked out on Jan 6
If we let our all the pot smokers we will have room.
Guantanamo Bay would serve just fine for blondo abomination.
They will need to name a new prison in his honor to hold all his criminal followers. The Trump correctional facility.
Let out everyone convicted of possession of small quantities, and switch to the Portuguese model for handling them from now on.
Then cram the insurrectionists into the existing cells, one per two square feet.
They said it was good enough for families trying to find a better life for their children.
Yeah I agree Beau, he's definitely gonna run if he's indicted...
Hopefully all the way to Siberia...
I agree 👍 There is no precedent for any of this. If he's indicted, what does the Secret Service do? All kinds of questions.
If he's convicted, he should lose his SS protection. And pension, and perks. If a previously upstanding and outstanding citizen commits a crime and goes to jail, they lose the privilege of voting. Why should former presidents be treated differently?
The 14 th amendment says no one can run for pubic office if they have engaged in an insurrection or any rebellious actions toward the US Govt…
It will be put to the test...
It all hangs on how swiftly the US justice system takes to convict.him of insurrection, sedition and treason. US justice, in these evidence-heavy Trump cases, has still proven intolerably slow and cumbersome.
And he could still win the presidency with another preposterous EC fiasco. Interesting times indeed...absolutely dangerous is more like it.
It has to be proven first. I can't understand why the government hasn't formally designated J6 as an insurrection. That seems like a first, essential step, to me.
@@belladonnatook8851 Supreme Court can't overthrow a constitutional amendment and the GOP has no other go-to than to get the Court to write new laws.
The FBI and CIA already investigated that, and he was not charged. You're being dishonest, or you don't know what you are talking about. Are you a judge? Nope, that's why we got them so people like you can't make decisions based on your obvious biased comments.
I'll believe it when I see it.
It's amazing how a creature of so little value and importance can create so much frenzy and chaos ...
It's been pretty damn disillusioning.
Thanks for addressing this BEAU
Thanks, Beau. So glad I found your channel. Keep up the great work 👊
Not American but if I was I would surely have questions about there being no rule preventing a criminal from running the country and a population that supports such a person. Oh and the daily mass murders that take place because you are...free?
Our founding fathers antiquated ideas on the honor of men is why.
There are a lot of things the Constitution doesn't address because they weren't issues back then. It's left us in a bit of a quagmire today.
@@E3ECO Shame the constitution couldn't be fixed by amending it or something....
@@Grumpy_Hobbit I know, but our destructive polarization makes that impossible nowadays.
@@E3ECO Good and evil have always been polarizing, just a shame all it took for America to get there was a single conman.
Probably just me, but it took nearly the whole video for the meaning of the 3 Witches on Beau's shirt to become clear to me. I really enjoyed the way it snuck up on me -- lol.
Just the thought of the worst that can happen makes my blood boil and my stomach turn.
Do we still have a 14th amendment? He should absolutely not be allowed on any ballot in the country; not with the dozens of crimes he's committed. Half of them self-admitted... and on video!
Might be time to just abolish the 14th altogether, if insurrectionists are allowed to run for office!
Well if the INC can charge putin and his "children welfare " boss with crimes maybe there's hope for tge orange infidel and his lackeys getting the same justice.
Who's responsible if the 14th amendment is not invoked? Accountability for everyone!
@@AnthonyStabler congress. So….. yeah, that’s a no go
They tried that with green and she's still around. All 150 plus infidels should have fallen under that ammendment.
That would require a conviction and none of the charges technically meet the criteria anyway.
Between Multiple counts both civiland criminal in NY, DC and GA, I expect this to be the 1st of many indictments. The tip of the iceberg so to speak.
But those videos that Tucker shown about January 6th will make Trump appear to be a victim
4:45 I was waiting for the Hocus Pocus shirt tie in. well played.
Nothing will change except in the rare case that he actually gets jail time. In that extremely unlikely case he will be out of the country until after the vote.
His base will only be encouraged by it.
Unfortunately, the base that remains at this point will be completely unfazed by anything Trump does or any criminal consequences of his malfeasance.
He can shoot someone in the street and it wouldn't matter.
Unfortunately, I believe that as well.
It's like they have so given up that any old thing can happen and, so what? Bring on the rallies?
His campaign can be stopped cold by pretrial release conditions. They can (and should) ban him from the internet & speaking in public as a condition of release.
Your last name is fitting because your views on censorship and the application of it certainly are "grose".
@@NicholasWolfwood-md7vm wow, did you hurt yourself thinking of that shitty burn I heard the first time in Kindergarten? And FYI, dumbass, the word that is a homonym for my name that means disgusting is spelled "gross". Restrictions on speech are commonplace for pretrial release.
I don't think a federal court would allow that since it is a federal election. A federal court would likely stop such a state court ruling.
Trump's Secret Service needs to be replaced by agents who are not MAGAts.
Probably already done.
@@JimCastleberry No, YOU are thevone calling for corruption.
fascists shouldn’t be permitted to work in any law enforcement role, but unfortunately many do
Unless you know them personally, you have no idea what they believe. As someone that has been I’m charge of many security details, I know that all political beliefs are kept personal while working. I do not care if the official is a Republican, Democrat, or with some other party. Whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant. We are professionals. Someone that isn’t a professional would never understand.
None of the adults would ever call anyone a “MAGAt”.
@@MegaFortinbras Actually, he is not. If he were, he would be a Democrat.
I doubt TFG regrets taking that escalator ride. Being the narcissistic character he is... he relishes even this attention.
That escalator ride was evil how? What was it about that escalator ride that sent you communists into hate mode? Your side is always touting diversity, inclusion and acceptance until it come to conservatives then it is full on smash mouth! What happened to the love?
Not TFG. More like WLB (whiny little b*tch)
Exactly. He found out that his base is willing to do anything he asks with unflinching loyalty as mob bosses insist on.
@@gail9566 Why do you hate Trump so much?
Party time! 🎉
Agreed..!
Indictment is a feather in the hat for the guy.
Rich people get arrested too but they are still allowed to golf, eat fancy dinners, walk freely and run for office.
I do wish I had more faith in the system to actually hold him accountable. Sadly even on a conviction I don’t think he will be.
the irony meter will break if the party of 'law and order' sticks behind an indicted candidate
It broke long ago.
They're never troubled by their own hypocrisy.
I think there will be a lot of celebrations across the country.
"For the State of the Union address, we go to Leavenworth prison."
😅 OMG, that would be Funny..!
Warm-up act: Tranny Storytime
Beau - Great quote! Bread and Circuses - if both could kill you. There IS a fascination about these times that is hard to escape. The freak show is unavoidable.
Only in America ...
GOP….don’t nominate a candidate who is under criminal indictment….don’t nominate a candidate who is certain to not accept the results of the election….again. These should not be hard prohibitions.
This wouldn't even need to be said if the GOP were actually comprised of the type of characters the Founding Fathers assumed they would be.
Anyone with any law enforcement or courtroom experience understands that indictments are meaningless. Many prosecutors use the indictment process as a fishing expedition to see if anyone will get scared and tell on others, even if they have to make things up. Most indictments do not lead to anything. In 2016, Trump was easily the class of the general election. In 2020, he was again, easily the class of that general election. We have no idea whom else will run in 2024 and Trump may or may not be the class of that election. What is known is that whomever wins the nomination for the Democrats will be supremely unfit to serve in public office, much less as the POTUS.
Part of me really wonders if this will be how we finally get ranked choice voting pushed through into the mainstream, if for no other reason than so the GOP has a way out. Might be something that we could turn into a (relatively) positive step for how our elections work here in the States.
If there are laws which prevent "criminals" from voting even after they have served their time, then there need to be laws which prevent criminals from being elected until they have served their time. Those who have served should have their voting rights restored.
The nomination isn't official until the Republican National Convention. The Convention can nominate someone else, even if Trump wins the primary. If Trump's situation looks bad enough, they would have the justification to do so. Of course, after that, they would stand even less of a chance in the general election.
Yeah, it would only be after the Convention that it would be blocked. Of course, even that's awkward. Most convention delegates are theoretically bound to vote according to their primary state votes.
And "stealing" the nomination from him like that would be great fodder for his base. If he didn't go along with it and he almost certainly wouldn't that would completely kill the chances of the GOP winning.
The scenario Beau didn't really touch on is him being not just indicted, but convicted and winning anyway. If he's convicted on charges related to the 6th the 14th could be used to keep him from taking office. On other charges, that's not true.
There are rules. The vast majority of delegates are obligated to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged on the first ballot. I have no idea what leeway might exist in the rules for unusual cases, but I think we have to at least consider that if Trump wins an outright majority of delegates his nomination may be inevitable.
@@bobbun9630 They might have to finance and promote an independent 3rd party
conservative candidate.
gop has no good options at this time. trump is not going to go quietly into the night, he will bluster, rage, and burn everything in his reach down. That is assuming he doesn't run off and start his own party separate from the gop which is another likely scenario. If they make him the candidate he is a losing option, maga nuts as a whole are getting less and less support and he is doing the same song and dance as previous elections while have multiple legal anchors tied around him all of which are pushing all but his diehard base away. Either way it will take years to really put the gop back together and that is assuming that they have the leadership and skills to actually build it back up. The whole time people will be jumping that ship and while they may not be running to democrats they will likely move into a more neutral cycle.
@@bobbun9630 And they are not legally bound to abide by those regulations/rules, remember what happened with Hillary and Bernie in 2016 where the DNC rigged things to ensure Hillary won. The DNC and RNC can do as they see fit, neither has any legal obligation to follow their own rules.
Lock the traitor up!
They tried but Hillary was too slick. Then she killed Epstein!
And, might I add, THROW AWAY THE KEY!
I’ve got a champagne bottle waiting for this precious moment.
Interesting times for sure. Thank you Beau.
Sounds like law enforcement is ready this time! Maybe they won't drop the ball this time!
They dropped the ball in Uvalde so you never know.
It's interesting, watching our country sink into fascism while we watch, helplessly.
I'm not American, but even i would hesitate to use the word "interesting". (Even if i secretly think it's fascinating.) But the fascism is all on one side, and that side is represented by MANY above averaging stupid people. Classic good versus evil, good should win... But WILL it?
The closest that the USA has ever seen to true fascism is the FDR Administration. If fascism ever does come to the USA, it will call itself liberalism. As long as we keep fighting against the tyranny of the Democrats, we will be ok.
After what he's done when he was 45 I don't understand why he would be allowed to run again in the first place.
They better be able to convict the villian because he will be untouchable if he gets off.
What happens is nothing. Justice in the US is highly dependent on how much money you have.
This is the truth. People getting excited over this and forgetting our multi-tier, pay as you go legal system.
Sad but true
Something is seriously wrong with our whole system that the voters would not reject such a candidate completely. The fact that we have all these grand juries at work and he still might get any votes is proof that our system is a failure. We need candidates that are the BEST AMONG US yet we have wanna be mob bosses running for office. And the best among us would never be willing to go through the crap of a campaign. Smearing of their character and the same for all their family members, not worth it.
Yes the system is flawed no doubt, but remember even ten years ago, any one of a thousand disgusting things that he has done would have been the end of a political career. This is more about the dumbing down of the electorate. 30 percent of the GOP does not care who he is or what he has done, they just want to stick it to the woke dems. Can't blame them on the woke stuff and I am an independent. Wake up on the woke stuff. Not good.
A whole lot of people only vote as an act of deliberate sabotage.
They think destroying democracy will somehow benefit them, most of them are clueless just how they rely upon that democracy.
They are also not utterly clueless by accident.
It was planned and activated by Reagan in the 80s. Our system has been so corrupted that opinions are valued over facts to the detriment of all.
@Mark Pashia... The system isn't bad or wrong, it's the elected officials that are manipulating the system. As well as the people who would vote for someone such as 45. A country that doesn't follow law and order will come under persecution from TMHG.
@@cinnamongmc5430 The system is absolutely bad and wrong, and always has been. Trump's antics are just a highly visible manifestation thereof.
@@cinnamongmc5430 The system is in fact both bad and wrong: gerrymandering, PACs, the unrepresentative nature of the Senate, billionaires buying politicians, the fact that Congress acts on behalf of the rich instead of their ordinary constituents...it's a cesspool of corruption, much of it designed to be that way.
"What happens if he is able to delay ...?" -- Precisely why it's ridiculous this has taken so long. He should have been indicted 2 years ago.
In the history of the USA, there have always been a bit of a crowd that cheered for Bonnie & Clyde types. Fortunately, there was always been a stronger group that were more than ready for the shootout.
Please heed and share the word of Beau!!