How Tilly, Mary-Beth, and Karen Joined the Van Der Linde Gang!
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It really shows how much work Rockstar put into the game, giving almost every character a full back story
thats the bare minimum
@@squidward8125 a lot of games don’t do this
You feel like everyone is a main character not just Arthur and John
@@squidward8125most games dont do that. Infact, most games characters are written so poorly that you dont care when they die. Only your character does.
But in rdr2, you form a bond with every gang member. When they die, atleast for me. I was bummed out & by the end, when everyone Arthur cared for was dead. I too was ready to join them in the afterlife, as Arthur.
So when Arthur buys John time to escape & John says "keep pushing Arthur" & Arthur goes, "nope! Ive pushed all i can". I felt that shit.
No other game has made me feel for fictional characters, like rdr2 did. A once in a lifetime gaming experience imo.
“Not much is known about Karen except she’s a great scam artist and loves the outlaw lifestyle” yep that’s a full backstory all right 😂 less than half the members have full backstories the rest you don’t even know their age without speculating
Karen’s bank job plan was much smarter than any plans given by Dutch. We scored around $20,000 dollars on that job alone.
if anything, that amount would cover more than half, if not all, of the expenses for Dutch and the gang to sail off to Tahiti early!
For real! Enough money like come on 20000?? Thats like millions in that time I wonder on what dutch spended it
20000 they split like 3000-4000 with each other depending on how much cash u took(I took all of em and got split 3000)they probably all gave 1000 to the gang leaving the gang with 12000 which they spent on gang funds and saved the rest that's why
@@D0N-KAPUCCIN0it’s not it’s like a several hundred thousand because the money from black water which was 150k was less then 5 million
Love these do one for LEENNYYYY
WHERE ARE YA LENNEEEEEEEYYYY
@@draxan06 AYYYYYE LENNAYYYYY
IMAN AMERICANNNN!
@@draxan06 YOU’LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVVEEEE!!!!!!!
@@tacituskilgore820 PEEEAAAACCEEEE!!!! LIIIBBEEERRRTTYYY!!!! AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS!!!!
Honest to god, Tilly is just gorgeous.
Fr I never even noticed before
I never antagonize her
@@Evil_kanyeshe's too cute, she and Mary beth have completely stole my heart. I am on chapter 4 and have never antagonized anyone except Dutch and Micah
Fr
@@APsGTGi just said the same thing watching this.. never realized how pretty she is due to my limited interactions w her
The only Karen the world loves
underrated comment fr
Plankton's wife?
@@nobody-yk2huwe forgot about her! Lol
My favorite call from Arthur is when he says "TILLY" while greeting her in camp. 😂
Arthur: "Hai Tilleh' "
I love Tilly so much I named this little feral cat that hangs around my home after her. I'm so happy to know her back story beyond the Foreman brothers
Awwwwww that's so sweet
Exactly tilly is such and underrated and great character
@@von-erikrogers9558 what's so great about tilly lol she's probably the 2nd to last one I care about right in front of Ms Grimshaw that old hag
It's so nostalgic when you met Tilly in Saint Denis in 1907
I love Mary-Beth, always was my crush
Definetly the better mary of rdr2
@@rdr2v1nce7 Mary Linton was better
Same
Nahhh bro Tilly underrated
💀💀💀💀
Tilly is where it's at! My favorite supporting character. If you spend real time at camp, especially during nighttimes around the fire... She tells stories of bloodthirsty witches, yet is a full on sweetheart to the fire too. A sweetheart that will kill if needed, proof is in the pudding, because she had already killed. She has all the layers. Extra awesome. Mary-Beth is a dreamer, a poetic thinker, a cutie pie type!!! She is a great character too, and she seems to have a real connection to Arthur... Honestly I could see them having crushes that were under the surface, as Arthur sees himself as older than he even is, due to wear n tear of the lifestyle. It's great to see what Marybeth ends up doing in the post story.
Karen is a really honest take of what most likely happened to sooooooo many people back then... Whom had a read importance but is a fully lost soul, trying to do what it takes to survive. She is a throw back. She still has one foot in the gang style, even while gangs were subsiding due to how the government was "cleaning up' the country, evolving it toward peaceful existence and a slower life. Karen can't adjust... She feels like her days are over, she is alive for the sake of being alive. Noone really knows what happened to Karen when the gang fades away,disconnects. Many feel as if she was sent out into the world alone, never having had been alone before, yet also never realized that because she always felt a lost soul within "the family" setting the gang tried to give on another. As the world wound down into a slower lifestyle, as there were less and less wandering folks along the road. I would bet MANY people were sent kicking and screaming into the countryside alone, unable to adjust, drinking themselves into life threatening ailments, dying sloshed up.
Very good character development across the board in the game.
Again, I love Tilly ... She has been through slave control, physical abuse, sexual violence at a young age... Somehow she held onto her sweethearted way of being, also while having hardened a very honest way of seeing the world. Somehow, even with her demons, she held them inside, while living calculated, yet still taking time to look up and see the rainbows. Literally, ya get a interaction with her and Arthur at the view along the edge of the first camp when they get out of the snowy mountains. She reminds Arthur to see the rainbow, and remember the beauty of life. Even while they are running from demons.
whole ass essay, but an awesome one.
Wow the way you describe Tilly was so beautifully written. Wow I really love Tilly too, and I love the fact that she was the last girl to say her true goodbyes to Author and had a better ending than everyone else. She deserves it ❤
tilly is undoubtedly one of my favorite characters
Always liked tilley
Yeah she is just so cute lol… And her backstory and relationship with Dutch, Arthur and Hosea is even cuter. How they raised her and took care of her.
@@jemoder196 my opinion, Mary is the cutest
@@SiegeRock in my opinion, Gavin is the cutest
@@DoC3Y Chad
@@DoC3Y uncle 👑
i love these girls so much, they’re the heart and soul of the camp.
Karen would of been a great addition to the online side as our main person for heists.
@@Rxzy well there's rumours there might be a dlc soon
@@Sub2Cider if its anything substantial it'll be a ranch based role.
That’d be adorable AND badass ngl
Yeah you should probably stop dreaming
@@Sub2Cider that’ll be 200 gold for the new dlc
Glad 2 of them got out of that life and did well for themselves, Tilly always wanted a family as she said (during her saving mission i think) and Mary-Beth always wanted to be a writer, it's sad to know that Karen died, she was already broken before Sean's death but Sean's death really broken her more
Karen's death wasn't confirmed. Tilly just assumed she probably drank herself to death, but didn't know for sure because she lost track of her.
@@Erizedd Yes, i hope her being "dead" wasn't true though, she's miserable but still have a chance to turn her life around
Tilly is so cute! I've always liked her, her and Lenny are my favorites 😍❤️ I also like Hosea and Jack :)
Mary Beth's more Hotter in my opinion
I think tilly lowkey looks fine
She looks so beautiful in any artwork but in-game she looks… strange.
@@Gaboxxy96 game did her dirty
Her face reminds me of Zendaya
@@Gaboxxy96 how, literally how
@@JPEGMECHA don’t know how to explain it, it’s like the lighting and colour of her face makes her look weird in-game. Playing I never perceived her as a beautiful character unlike the other girls, but looking at the real person I realize she is stunning.
Ok, I have to say this. I have never realized how beautiful Tilly is. She’s genuinely one of the prettiest people I’ve ever seen real or fictional.
simp
Two big reasons to love Karen..
💀
...
What’s the other?
@RDR.fan_ it's her boobs
Dude same I’m sorry yall those two reasons are practically jumping out at me 💀💀💀
I really like Karen’s character, she’s as brave as Sadie is, it’s a shame how Sean’s death (possibly) ended up killing her
So Karen's backstory and fate are both left for speculation? That's sad.
All 3 of these women where my crush during my time playing RDR2 when I first got it. Idk what it was about them but I was drawn to them. Wish more missions included them.
I know you tug it out to naked rdr2 character models mod
Fr all three of them are pretty specially Mary Beth
Always wanted to know karens😔
I feel like rockstar didn’t give a crap about Karen lol no details on how she got there, no word on what happened to her after 1899, no gravestone or anything. It’s like she’s meant to be a small insignificant character
It’s just that karen was falling into alcohol and went somewhere without letting us know
Unsure if it’s canonical information but the wiki mentions Karen meeting Javier and Arthur in Tucson, Arizona after helping in a bank robbery dressed as a nun.
Tilly was so cute haha😂
I got some inklings as to what Tilly's story was, but I never got enough to piece out her full backstory till now. Girl has been through it, man.
Mommy Beth 😩😩😩
My favorite part about this game has to be just how human everyone looks
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Karen mentiones a bank robbery she and Arthur and Javier did in Tucson Arizona , maybe that's where they found her
Arthur has that southern drip
Karen was the only one of these two who actually participated in the outlaw life. She helped rob the valentine bank and she defended the house during the O’Driscoll attack. She is also the only woman other than Sadie to do guard duty.
Tilly is a sweetheart no doubt
Red dead characters are awesome. Been watching this while loading rdr2 online
A red dead redemption three would be pretty great if it was yet another precruel showing the start an introduction of every single member of the Vanderlinde gang and how are they all got together and then the final mission would be the Blackwater job
Karen was so fine tho
Mary Beth too 😏
@@SiegeRock Susan tho 💯
@@cruzaider5339 I honestly though Mary and Karen were hella cute though, I thought the lady who helps you with the bath in saloons was her LOL. then I went to Ambarino, and stumbled into her in like, valentine or strawberry I forget.
@Herr Goober Down maliciously
@@SiegeRock Gavin too 😏
“Let’s rob a bank”
“But I won’t lie to you , there will be law if we linger”
🗿🗿🗿
if only Tilly has octiplet sisters and they joined Dutch's gang.
Tilly my baby
Karen is a strange character for me. You see a lot of her especially in chapter 2, but don't know anything about her background. Then towards the end of the game she just disappears, and we never find out what happened to her. Just a bit strange from rockstar imo.
technically we do find out what happened, according to tilly its most likely she drank herself to death, which is most likely what happened seeing how she was going by chapter 6.
I also think it's mentioned that when mary-beth, tilly, etc leave the gang karen left as well, swanson tried to get them to leave earlier but they didnt
If you don't kill Anthony foreman as Arthur he becomes a bounty for John
My siblings say that I look like tilly's face that bc I love her a lot 😭
The camp girls were great. They were the sweetest
Gotta love the writers just forgot karen was even a character
Atleast they gave her big bubas
I think her backstory is left blank on purpose, like it's something she doesn't want to share with anyone, probably alot of trauma
Mane karen and Mary are just so fine😩
I've wanted to moterboat Karen since I started playing RDR2 😅
every video starts with “this is how”
Yup
I always liked their friendship reminds me Arthur,Dutch and Hosea friendship but in a young female versión
Mary Beth is very pretty
Id give her a good seeing to, that's for sure.
Tilly was my favourite female of the van der Lin gang
Tully fye idc 🔥🔥😍😍
Keep these video's up : D!
even do one's on older Red dead side characters and even one's in Rdr2 if u can.
They did Karen dirty. Feels like half way through the game they just gave Sadie, Karen's personality of being wild and down to be a gun for the gang and pushed Karen into the background as a drunk with an ambiguous and lame ending for her if it's true.
Sadie was a badass since the first time when she held a knife against micah
@@mohamedhichemmouzali6505 That's just her being hysterical otherwise she wouldn't be all mopey throughout the 2 Chapter.
@@ragingjavier0075 a person can't learn shooting and horse riding throw out few days like the transition from chapter 2to 3 she was just traumatised from the murder of her husband
@John Gardner she was decent but I hoped she stayed
Sadie is such a key character she's literally on the face of the game disc
Karen is the opposite of karens
Nice way to explain this all in such a short vid
Tilly is so pretty🙏🏽😭
Out of all these 3 female characters, Karen is the only one where we don’t specifically know what happened to her after the Dutch gang dismantled.
I'm honestly disappointed that karen doesnt have much a backstory, before her large amount of drinking even for her she was the life of the gang, her and a couple other made the camp so nice to be in... at least until the further along you got
Forgot that Mary-Beth’s mom died of tonsillitis or something with a t
Tuberculosis?
@@mimebites nah it was another thing lol
Typhoid
@@scorpionic3599 yeah that
She died from Typhoid fever.
If Karen was in the epilogue then it would have been even better or if Karen was in the gang when the spilt happened she would’ve taken Arthur’s side
How beautiful Tilly is on this fan art I presume… gosh, Michael Jordan was black jesus Tilly Jackson is a Black Angel 😭❤️
We know Tilly and Lenny family were slaves because of how they were born
Karen had lost it when Sean died.
I don’t know why I see tilly so innocent
I just realized Anthony Forman is also in rd2 online
I’m halfway thru the story now, I really just want Arthur to plough Marybeth lmaooooo like come onnn
Man I need more on Karen, I need to know what happens after the game to her, seems like she was forgotten about.
Wonder if karen saw hosea as a father figure because of her also being a scam artist.
Do yall know that you cam dance with karen like you cam with marry Beth idk if you can dance with both cause I literally found this out 2 days ago cause on this current playthrough I forgot to dance with marry then like 4 in game days karen asked me to dance with her
I know the Mary-Beth one happens after saving Sean in Ch2 but when does the Karen one happen?? I didn’t know this lol. Seems kind of weird considering her and Sean were a thing
@@brownsugar9743 it was in chapter 2 but later and also if you declined marybeths dance
@@thorodinsson5684 damn i literally just entered Ch3 fml 😅 Can’t believe this is like my 3rd play through and I still never had that encounter
@@brownsugar9743 🤣🤣 it's all good you'll get it eventually next time your in chapter 2 don't expect marybeths dance that should then allow you to dance with kerian
Yep! In my first gameplay I danced with Mary Beth, and in my 2nd I was super surprised to dance with Karen!
They’re all children of Dutch
Tilly was my favorite
do y'all realize how karen's backstory AND death cause are unknown?
All the characters feel so real to me bro, I legit am emotionally attached to all these characters like family, just going through the game again, knowing the terrible outcome of the game at the end, walking through camp as Arthur and saying hello to all the members (besides Micah) puts a smile on my face.
Like bro how is a game so good that I literally feel love for the characters like family 😭
Anthony forhaman was a bounty in rdr2
Karen is a mystery not much background hardly any mention of her in epilogue either
Idania
Karen is Red Harlow
Just finished replaying the game, after five years ( the last time I couldn’t go chapter 4 I stopped just before the bank robbery )
Cried like a kid again. I hate Dutch more than I hate Micah
And also I am very “ disappointed “ to not have the possibility to do more jobs with the ladies of the camp
I really love them all, I sympathize with Karen pain… I sympathize with Tilly fierce attitude, I sympathize with Mary Beth romantic mind but not one to underestimate… I still don’t like molly even though I wish I could have helped her when she wanted to talk to Arthur but instead uncle show up 😂
But I despise Abigail more than ever. She is so selfish and ungrateful and unfair to John
Yes John has been a bad father but he quickly try to make things right with Abigail and Jack
But I particularly have a soft spot for Karen… her most likely death by alcoholism makes me very sad
Tilly I just “ love her “ because she is so beautiful while being this… wild and free mind with also a great personality.
Karen… I don’t know I just think she could have been saved
Where did you find those high quality pictures of the characters you use in these vids?
I get most from the Red Dead Wiki
Those were pretty much promotion from rockstar once the game launched
Btw her mom was a slave when she was 15
the female gang members are the best characters in the game and weren't featured nearly as much as they deserved.
Karen has great personalities
why would dutch teach all these people how to read and foght and survive if he was a bad person? thats why i think all the controversies took a toll on him. He loved all of them at the end of the day
Yeah , I do bad stuff to
Can anyone remind me what happend yo Karen? As far as I remember she disappear when the camp moved to near the cave
She leaves after the gang starts to fall apart and it's theorized by Mary Beth or Tilly(I forget who) that she drank her self to death
@@dishantithomas4198 Tilly.
Nobody knows, but the scariest theory is that maybe she was kidnapped by these sickos of the Murfree bunch. I really hope it's not true.
I felt such a satisfaction when Colm got hanged. For Kieran, Annabelle and Sadie‘s husband
Tilly can get it
Honestly for ages Karen’s face was fuzzy for me I always forgot what she looked like. For. Obvious reasons…..
Dutch was never evil
...did you play the game?
@@Tensifyed yep..and what i meant was Dutch was not a bad person... Dutch began acting very strange after the tram accident...he loved Dutch and the others as his own...
@@gagancs1743 I mean none of the characters in the gang are good people cuz they're outlaws of thieves and murderers but Dutch was always a bad person who tried helping out lost souls and teaching them to be loyal to him and better criminals. Dutch showed his true colors when he killed Heidi McCord in the Blackwater Heist in a bad way told from a lot of the gang members and really shook them up creating doubts in John.
@@ragingjavier0075 and he left John to die like three times...but i always thought he had some special love for Arthur and Hosea...and also took part in rescuing jack
@@ragingjavier0075 yeah I think he really started to lose his mind chapter 4.
Tilly look like bluefaces girl
Don't disrespect tilly like that
@@Fijxnn lol
God is great
In my opinion tilly was the unnecessary character to be featured in the game
Oh and please dont call me racist some dumb bastards...
she just exists in one mission and you could just see her around in camp sometimes and.... Thats it. Literally you once meet her in the epilogue
No side missions. Just a black woman there for her to be there?
She's living her life.
That could be said for Mary Beth aswell however their additions make the camp more lively and a family.
I agree but if were talking unnecessary then i say Swanson. Dude literally did 0 work and brought it 0 money and 0 intel for jobs that they could do. At least Tilly did chores around camp. Swanson just exists and spends the entire game drugging himself or drinking.
First of all she "exists" in more than one mission: there's the one where you take the girls to Valentine, then she can be a part of a stagecoach mission if you decide to do it, then of course the one where she gets kidnapped. That's 3. Also she is one of Arthur's "psy", you can confide to her at some point in camp. Finally, she's seen during the part with John and her story gets a great ending. In all, she's there for a reason and she's super memorable.
@@jonathanturbide2232 She has that mini mission/encounter where she invites arthur to play dominos too, and also has a camp item request, she participates on a stagecoach robbery, also in ch6 at the end she takes Jack to Abigail when shit starts going bad. And to top it all off, Tilly (along with Mary-Beth) is the only one of the gang who genuinely had a good life . She got married and had a baby and lives in St. Denis..John even gets to talk to her during epilogue. Tilly was Far from just “existing” 😂she had more screen time than Swanson, Mary-Beth, Pearson, Grimshaw, even Kieran.
so pretty much women on here are no different than real life. Scam artists, got it. lmao
Ooooooof course Tilly was the daughter of a former slave