Capcom USA sued Data East over the original Fighter's History, not Karnov's Revenge. (Karnov's Revenge, aka Fighter's History Dynamite, being the sequel.) Capcom failed to get a preliminary injunction, as the court decided some elements were either considered unprotectable or common to the genre, while also disagreeing with the extent of character and move copying that Capcom had claimed.
And people underestimate Fighter’s History, mostly due to how Capcom had tried to sue Data East over the game for being a ripoff of Street Fighter 2, but they got laughed out of court for it.
They sued Data East because of Fighter's History (the prequel), not Karnov's Revenge. Also, Matt saying there werent any new characters. Yungmie and Zazie weren't in Fighter's History, only in Karnov's Revenge
I really like the concept woolie brought up about the fourth wall breaker that announces their moves as the in game functions/descriptors. It’s a nice idea I’d love to see it executed in a game in the future.
That thumbnail is the rapiest I have ever seen a man in my life. It's like he's saying "This finger right here? It's going inside you. And you ain't gonna do shit to stop it."
no shut up though I'm a military muay thai sniper I have you know I keep my back straight and stand tall and proud with my shoulders far back like a real gentleman ready for fisticuffs
Mars actually has the best jump because it works like a shorthop or IAD. As far as dealing with projectiles you're supposed to use his charges. Christ I've played too much Karnov's Revenge.
I don't claim to be an expert, but I did take a couple years learning muay thai and that is NOT the stance I was taught. It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine whenever I see this stance like this, with the front leg practically in the air and his upper body leaning way back
Me: Hey Mizagochi what do you say to these Benoit loving bozos that Capcom sued Data East over the FIRST game; Fighter's History on the SNES and in the arcades, that both Zazie and Yungmie were actually NEW characters added to this game, the fact that there's a hidden character which is an Ox (though it's unplayable), failure to see Karnov's balloooon and the fact that he IS this game's final boss, failure to mention Clown's sexuality preference and just overall now beginning to SUCK! Mizagochi: They should piss off, piss off, piss off, piss off, piss off! Announcer: Mizagochi wins! Perfect!
I wish you guys would start pulling up movelists. It'd take like a second and would help showing off the cast. Yungmie got robbed here because Pat couldn't figure her out. (Not his fault, her moves are weird)
No new characters, Matt? There are at least 4 of them in this I think. Zazie Muhaba, for example, wasn't in the original Fighter's History. Fighter's History had 11 characters(playable or not), while this has 15. Also, you guys consider looking at a move-list for this, but not the in-game move-list for Infinite World?
Fighter's History Dynamite (Karnov's Revenge) is the one series where the SNES game is better than the arcade (the last one not the first). It had Mizoguchi featured as the main with his own story mode and had more moves than the arcade versions and was faster.
Pat: Is Mizuguchi the best character?
Mizuguchi: literally says he's the best character right after
Mizuguchi also sounds like he's saying "piss off!, When he does his spinning kick special move.
My favorite character is that guy cheering from the bench.
Capcom USA sued Data East over the original Fighter's History, not Karnov's Revenge. (Karnov's Revenge, aka Fighter's History Dynamite, being the sequel.) Capcom failed to get a preliminary injunction, as the court decided some elements were either considered unprotectable or common to the genre, while also disagreeing with the extent of character and move copying that Capcom had claimed.
"Why isnt this a Scrublords?" Because just from that first match this shit looks dope?
For some reason people have gotten into the mindset that any fighting game they've never heard of is automatically a Scrublords.
BadWrongFun to be fair FHD is poverty as fuck and a lot of the intricacies are difficult to pick up on from this video.
Povertylords.
And people underestimate Fighter’s History, mostly due to how Capcom had tried to sue Data East over the game for being a ripoff of Street Fighter 2, but they got laughed out of court for it.
Karnov confirmed for Smash on Switch, you can see him in the silhouettes.
Nah YungMie is more likely with that skirtslip
Karnov's Revenge is actually very fun, and quite a decent fighter. I actually love it. Glad its a Fisticuffs and not a scrublords
8:55 God poverty royalty is such a good term to describe this game
You know it's proper poverty because you can still find matches in Fightcade to this day.
KARNOV KARNOV KARNOV KARNOV
Is this the secret ballad of Mr. Heart?
Rohan Kishibe and 『Heaven's Door』 _STILL_ one of my favourite SBFP moments ever. "YOU GOTTA EAT THE KIDS TO SAVE THE CHILDREN MR. HEART!"
Fist of the Fat Star.
4thSurviver The answer of all these questions is Yes...yes it is.
They sued Data East because of Fighter's History (the prequel), not Karnov's Revenge. Also, Matt saying there werent any new characters. Yungmie and Zazie weren't in Fighter's History, only in Karnov's Revenge
Hmm, it's almost as if the Best Friends don't know what they're talking about, again.
Anyone can look like they know everything when they look it up first.
Actually, Yungmie and Zazie were introduced in Fighter's History: Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu!
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No. Karnov's Revenge came out in 1994, introducing Zazie and Yungmie, and Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu came out in 1995
@fml
Samchay was in the first game
The ORIGINAL child eating hero, Karnov
Completely with cutting head action
YEAAAAAAAHHHHH
IT'S HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRREEEEE
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR FOUR YEARS AND IT'S FINALLY TIME
If we ever get the 'Baz in a fighting game he BETTER be the "yells out out his hit states" thing they were joking about. it's destiny.
"TWENTY FRAME STARTUP!"
"UN-SAFE!"
"FAAAAILED MIXUP!"
These games are starting to blend together. Can't really tell the difference other than this one actually has a frame rate
AfroMetalMizu Aigis announced as DLC in CTB.
Ghost5410 In wut
AfroMetalMizu Cross Tag Battle.
Ghost5410 GOOD. I hope Karen Straussman voices her again. Sweet voice
Overrated 4chan meme wafiu is is Half The Roster Is DLC: The Game?
I really like the concept woolie brought up about the fourth wall breaker that announces their moves as the in game functions/descriptors. It’s a nice idea I’d love to see it executed in a game in the future.
"Food baby is too food" -Pat 2018
All I'm getting from the thumbnail is "Tonight. You."
geardog24 on a Friday night
Did they just merge Scrublords with fisticuffs because everything was just scrublords at this point or have they just been having a good streak?
Maybe they have something so bad that they had to lower the bar
woolie fuck up, thats it.
They don't wnnt to use the Scrublords intro anymore because RIP Liam
Homer Sapienne Gone but never forgotten✊🏽😔
Despite the fact that they made a Scrublords intro that didn't have Liam in it.
That thumbnail is the rapiest I have ever seen a man in my life. It's like he's saying "This finger right here? It's going inside you. And you ain't gonna do shit to stop it."
Adrian The Vulture I actually died reading this lol
You should have seen Donovan before he skewered Guts with his Dragon Slayer.
They DID sue Data East, but it was over Fighter's History, not Karnov.
They did such a good job erasing Liam that sometimes I wonder if he was just a figment of my imagination lol
Steffano Fumo savage lmao
Who?
( _whoooo?_ )
Next time they do a brawl I need to bring a bring back Liam sign.
Liam is on Matt's live streams, sometimes. On his Matt Muscles channel
Steffano Fumo I miss Lima bean. :'c
Four months after Karnovember, but this is very pleasing. Baked potato!
No Woolie his stance "IS" bad, his shoulders are too far back and makes him look weird
no shut up though I'm a military muay thai sniper I have you know I keep my back straight and stand tall and proud with my shoulders far back like a real gentleman
ready for fisticuffs
Muskets used this stance to defeat the british in the first world war.
It looks like Clown is REALLY smelly and Samchay wants to smell none of that B.O.
"Sir *cough* just please stay away I have no quarrel with you oh god"
Mars actually has the best jump because it works like a shorthop or IAD.
As far as dealing with projectiles you're supposed to use his charges. Christ I've played too much Karnov's Revenge.
Karnovember came early! YES!!
15:45 Woolie wants more Deadpool but more frame data.
_D Y N A M I T E_
_H I S T O R Y_
@@EggBastion _F I G H T E R ' S_
Every SBFP fan ever: "This is obscure and/or old, therefore it should be a Scrublords." SMFH...
This game is on Fisticuffs
AS IT SHOULD BE
YEAH !!!! IT'S KARNOV'S REVENGE , BABY !!!
The most sexually appealing thumbnail thus far
Baked Potato!
Dang, I forgot Ray was in this. I kept thinking he was in World Heroes for some reason.
Samchay looks bad because you're not used to that stance with chicken legs.
I don't claim to be an expert, but I did take a couple years learning muay thai and that is NOT the stance I was taught. It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine whenever I see this stance like this, with the front leg practically in the air and his upper body leaning way back
Me: Hey Mizagochi what do you say to these Benoit loving bozos that Capcom sued Data East over the FIRST game; Fighter's History on the SNES and in the arcades, that both Zazie and Yungmie were actually NEW characters added to this game, the fact that there's a hidden character which is an Ox (though it's unplayable), failure to see Karnov's balloooon and the fact that he IS this game's final boss, failure to mention Clown's sexuality preference and just overall now beginning to SUCK!
Mizagochi: They should piss off, piss off, piss off, piss off, piss off!
Announcer: Mizagochi wins! Perfect!
why does it seem like every arcade fighting game with chinese characters speak actual chinese with the notable exception of street fighter
KOF also has some Chinese characters that dont speak Chinese
BAKED POTATO!! TAKEAGOODLOOKATTHAT!!!
BAKED POTATO!!!!
For anyone wondering, at 13:48 Karnov is writing pobeda (victory).
Remember the age-old adage, kids:
Fighters that are Karnov > Fighters that are not Karnov
I wish you guys would start pulling up movelists. It'd take like a second and would help showing off the cast. Yungmie got robbed here because Pat couldn't figure her out. (Not his fault, her moves are weird)
I have been training in muay thai for over a decade, Samchay's stance is perfectly fine.
Yet someone else in these comments says his stance is bad. Isn't it funny how that always happens?
Lawl I would love to see your reactions to the actually move list of this game. Half of the characters just lawl with the commands.
How is a full reset faster than going back to the title screen?
Everyone expects Mizoguchi
Not a single BALLOOOON attack from Karnov?!?! Common guys thats like a Fatal Fury video without a single rising tackle from Terry.
Well, they don't know the command for it.
YEEEEEEEEEES
KARNOV BAYBEE
Ryoko is basically a proto-Makoto
That's super true. It's like Capcom ripped off Ryoko for SF3 as revenge for this and Fighter's History. Also, "proto-Makoto" is really fun to say.
But not really
Is that thumbnail the fighting version of Uncle Sam?
I wish Liam were here. He would've loved Tiger Bazooka.
it's shocking sometimes how adorable the intro is
Ryoko is cool as hell
2:58 aw thanks Pat!
FIYAAAAR! BALLOOOOOON!!
BALLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
I'd always assumed Karnov was Eastern European, what with being called Karnov.
Jordan Etherington I would guess like a Mongolian-descended Russian guy?
I'm glad Pat pulled it off with Marstrius despite Woolie clearly having an advantage.
YUNGMIE BEST GIRL
Xenochrist she's so fuckin sick, dude. People don't even know.
Why don't you guys just make a save state before either player picks their first character
StickFigsHL2 They did that in a previous episode and Pat & Matt gave Woolie shit for it for some reason.
Which episode was that?
Jeedy Jay One of the last few, can't remember exactly
I really hope that the snk collection be on the switch very soon
I'm gonna asume that Mizoguchi was inspired by Sakigake Otokojuku!
mauro banegas He is literally Momotaro with Togashi's personality lol
I see you´re a man of culture as well.
When is wind jammers?
Fun fact, Samchay is super fucking popular in Japan, that he warranted a Samchay only tourney.
Did the logo on Ray's shirt just fall off at 3:32 ?
yes
Yep. It just peace'd out
Did they say what version of the game are playing ?
I always forget it's Friday
The capcom vs snk 2 stage theme is the bomb.
This is s true... Love we're makin
James Small is a British blackman?!?? The lore thickens...
Ok Karnov in Tekken 7 WHEN?
You mean you don't want Mizoguchi and his "TIGUHBADUUKADA"?
You mean: "TAKEALOOKATTOTHIS"?
This is a great example of a game with backgrounds so busy it makes the action difficult to follow
Someone show this to Northernlion.
No he's Bruiser Brody.
I usually have more fun with SNK Fighters then I do with Capcom Fighters other than Heritage for the future
Gotta say this does look pretty great.Reminds me of Streets Of Rage and Final Fight a lot.
Have I been living under a rock? There was a fucking Karnov fighting game?!
I dunno why, but for some reason I want a Fisticuffs of Mortal Kombat 2.
No new characters, Matt? There are at least 4 of them in this I think. Zazie Muhaba, for example, wasn't in the original Fighter's History. Fighter's History had 11 characters(playable or not), while this has 15. Also, you guys consider looking at a move-list for this, but not the in-game move-list for Infinite World?
Man, I pumped some hours into this game on GGPO back in the day. Karnov's has some goofy ass 100% combos.
Anything can be in a Fisticuffs episode if you try hard enough.
Does the emulator manual not have a move list?
GET READ
"Is she a tic throw character?"
You mean a grapp-ler?
Leana: It's says here you paid for a hotel room??
Matt: It's not what you think! James Small and I were just playing Karnov's Revenge!
Why is the tumbnail an Asian version of abdullah the butcher
Such a lust for Karnov's revenge. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!
Dude...Karnov is gonna make it into Smash 5. I can feel it in my groin...
Timmer9hen I doubt karnov would make it
Pat, Marstorius literally has a charging Rekka, that's what you could use to cover the distance
It's not a charging Rekka, it's a dashing lariat
'Accuracy Sucks': The Pat Story
Who is this James Small they keep mentioning?
This isn't the one where Mizaguchi can charge the Tiger Bazooka up for a few seconds then fire out a bigger one?
It is
oh they just didn't know about it. lol
Yeah. To be fair, most people wouldn't know, because the command for it is that you gotta do the Tiger Bazooka motion, but with the four buttons
For some reason i thought they already did this one a long time ago
Marstorius: Bitches don't know about my Double German.
This game looks pretty great!
I'm actually a big fan of these games.
Mizoguchi looks like every 80s anime macho man ever. (It's the eyebrows)
gaminggoddess85 He's based on Tsurugi Momotaro from Sakigake!! Otokojuku
Like I said, 80s anime macho man.
Between this and Dragonball FighterZ, IDK which is the more technical of the two.....very intriguing.
Fighter's History Dynamite (Karnov's Revenge) is the one series where the SNES game is better than the arcade (the last one not the first). It had Mizoguchi featured as the main with his own story mode and had more moves than the arcade versions and was faster.
18:30 tell him woolie
With each match, I slowly realized more and more why Capcom sued them for this
It feels like there's a yak on my chest.
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