@@basketcase6999 the 6th Doctor would have fitted - it was even part of his storyline, being put on an exercise and diet regime by Mel. But of course, we aren't allowed to say anyone's fat these days, so it was cut out, like it never happened. Ahhhhh, censorship.
0:20 showing his future incarnations, two of them even past his regeneration cycle, is funny enough. But the Time Lords really decided to make the Doctor look at the image of 13 holding the fob watch containing a past they are holding from him lol
Surprised they did not use Peter Davison. He was still in his teens as the time, but one of the original illustrations did resemble the Davison Doctor. Jodie Whittaker I understand confirming that the Time Lords are true gender benders.
@@mrsmirnoff8715it will never happen beyond some new pictures that were used for the 50th anniversary special cause he has started he never wants to be compared to his father or diminish what his father did on the show
I love how the Tardis can't decide if it's the 1970s or the 1980s. The 10th doctor said he worked for UNIT back then but didn't know exactly when it was. Good thinking, RTD
Moffat addressed it too, in The Day Of The Doctor when Kate and Clara pass by some files deatiling Doctor's involvement with UNIT in the Black Archive, Kate says that they are "from the 1970's or 1980's, *depending on the dating protocol."*
The UNIT dating controversy has been subject of debate for 50 years. Web of Fear was set forty years after the Abominable Snowmen which had been set in 1935. The Doctor re-united with Lethbridge-Stewart four years later. Jo Grant was forty years after 1926 as she said in Carnival of Monsters and Sarah Jane said she was from 1980. Mao Zedong happens to be alive even though he died in 1976 and Thatcher happens to be PM making Terror of the Zygons set in or after 1979. Personally, Pertwee is set in the late 1970s.
@@fadikhoory5350My mind canon is a compromise between 1970 and 1980, with the 3rd Doctor arriving on Earth in 1975, so that five years later, Sarah can be from 1980 in "Pyramids of Mars".
Personally, I felt like this was exhibit A in everything wrong with the desire to force connectivity at the expense of good storytelling. The Second Doctor's regeneration is horrifying and tragic. His last moments are in pain and discomfort, seeing him spiral further and further away from us into a dark abyss... and the next time we see the Doctor, it's a new man who collapses out of the TARDIS. It's an incredible end to one of the most ambitious and brilliant serials in the show's history. But there's a certain kind of fan that demands a checklist be ticked off for regeneration. "We need to see the moment it happens! We need to see the face morph!" - bollocks to that, it's completely extraneous here, and frankly it reduces the impact of the original. No disrespect to the people who worked on these extra scenes, but does it really actually add anything to see the Doctor sitting in a chair in the TARDIS as he is engulfed in regeneration energy just to make it more modern? The colourisation work on this was fantastic, but if there's one thing this 90-minute cut made clear it's that you just cannot touch the original.
Honestly all of war games is the only time the time lords felt like a true threat and you almost felt a sense of uneasy the whole time . I think it’s a such a poor choice to make them this decadent bunch of old farts and then I guess it got better when they initially built on the time war as a concept but it got flanderised when they had to visualise things like nightmare child and all the other events mentions off handed. Less is good. I’m only accepting a complete reboot of this show now. Canon or not they already shot themselves in the foot
I enjoyed the colour, but not the edits. There is a certain appeal in having things not be confirmed or denied by the creators. It allows us the audience to come up with wild theories that fit in the canon but also can be disproved just as quick. By telling us certain details through edits, it solidifies the truth and destroys the mystery. The joy of a mystery is not knowing whether it's true or false.
kinda wish they had used sketches of the future incarnation's faces, similar to the sketches used in the original, instead of the stock images. that way it's less "these are your future selves" and more "these are faces you may possibly have in the future **wink wink** **nudge nudge** ". having them just use promo images, some even holding their screwdrivers and everything, is a little weird.
@@highway_roadkill A plot point in one of the post-classic novels was that one of the faces offered to him was the face of the evil parallel-Earth leader in Inferno - spinning him into guilt because he could have been that evil leader. Whoever thought it was "cutesy" to put future regenerations into the clip doesn't understand the story and shouldn't be allowed near clips.
@@TheChibiCrew The way it is named is just focussing on the most central change. With this one being so massively cut for time (more than half of the original runtime removed!), it implicitly is an alternative edition to me. If a "directors cut" doesn't have "alternative version" in the title, that still does not remove the original from existence either. Unless this scene is somehow picked up by the main show putting some more arguments towards this being the "real version", its entirely up to personal preference what you see as the "canon" way.
Seconds responses: 3: that one is too posh 4: too crazy 5: is he a time lord or a con man? 6: well he is too fat isn't he? 7: time lord? More like a penguin 8: Do I have a mid-life crisis? 9: Too brazen. 14: you already showed him to me. 15: that one is too emotional.
@@fadikhoory5350 yet that part was omitted and I wonder why??? Oh yes, it’s now a censorship issue as the media is too sensitive to acknowledge it as it is consider xenophobic. Just can’t joke anymore.
They really showed clips of future Doctors instead of the original alternatives? In one of the post-classic novels, they had a scene where one of the faces he was offered was the face of the evil parallel-Earth leader in the episode "Inferno". They couldn't just do a colourisation, they *had* to mess the video up by showing future incarnations?
Probably my biggest gripe with this was they used promo images of new who incarnations when classic would’ve also worked just as well. Would’ve been better if Matt Smith was the “that one’s too young” because he IS the youngest to play the role. The special felt like just another Daleks in colour mess
You don't want to do a disservice to previous actors playing the role. A lot of fans did *not* like the casting of Jodie Whitaker as the Doctor because of the gender switching, and were blatant about it to the point of rhetorical abuse. "This won't do at all" would have given the impression that the episode revisers implicitly agreed with those fans.
I think this is an interesting idea but its also sacrilegious because it gets rid of the mysterious lure of how Patrick troughton regenerated into Jon Pertwee from black & white to colour. But this edit is interesting and fascinating but it gets rid of the feeling of finding out what happened between the war games and spearhead from space
Not sure about that. We just know they send him back to the Tardis and he regenerates in the chair. It could have had many adventures before he sat down.
The main reason there was no regeneration shown originally was because when they shot the scene they didn’t have the next regeneration casted yet and to give fans new content while they casted a new doctor the comic released new original adventure of the doctor now known as season 6b
That is a genuine clip from 'Spearhead from Space' part 1, the first time we actually saw Jon Pertwee in the classic era. He spent the rest of the episode unconscious.
0:14 How did they know what doctor they would pick over the years. I thought they would find random famous people and pick them to be the doctor. Did they reserve their spots or something.
None of you guys realize that this was not done by the BBC, but this was done by a fan and posted here on UA-cam one year ago. Look up The Confession Dial. This person also did a Sixth Doctor regeneration 4 years ago.
My apologies. I glossed over the description. I must say the work done on those regeneration sequences are amazing! I found out about the regeneration was included in The War Games on a recent broadcast or was it iPlayer. I so wish I could see that in the US, but I am sure we will soon!
So... Why are 13 and 12 there? Because putting the Timeless Child stuff to one side just for a moment, they're from a new set of regenerations he got at the end of 'Time of the Doctor'. The Time Lords shouldnt know they even exist.
Spot on, this bugs me too. Even granting that the Timeless Child stuff means The Doctor would have unknowingly actually had further regenerations available (not my preferred canon, but whatever)... It was meant to be a big deal that there would be more incarnations past the Eleventh. It was meant to be a proper shock and legitimate surprise when "(No Sir,) ALL THIRTEEN" Doctors show up to save Gallifrey on the last day of the Time War. But nah, nevermind that... It turns out all those future incarnations were well documented and on the record as early as the War Games. Just patiently waiting for their respective series, all according to the BBC release schedule.
He should not have been shown the 12th doctor. That appearance is unique as the dctor took it to remind hinself to save people. Like the people in the fires of Pompeii.
Well...not quite. 6B has the 2nd Doctor retain his face for several years in between the sentence and his regen. That gap can still be inferred....we don't see the start of the actual regen inside the TARDIS
Yeah... 6B still happens, its in between the scene where the Doctor's on trial, and the scene where he's on that TV screen. 0:45 that black screen is where 6B takes place
I'm still convinced that Two regenerated into the Fugitive Doctor. It makes sense given that her Tardis closely resembled the Second's on the exterior and interior. And given that the first we see of Three is him falling out of the same Tardis, that seems like a perfect place to patch the Fugitive into the timeline. Any rumors that she predates the First Doctor is just a result of Toymaker shenanigans.
He did. The CIA takes Two a picosecond before the spinning faces He works for the CIA He regenerates into Ruth She Escapes Gets caught by the CIA and they degen her back to Two with an extra regeneration Two is placed back at the end of War Games to regenerate into Two Three was the face the Time Lords choose, Ruth would have been his true regeneration. Also the bits with the future incarnations aren't canon.
This is an amazing idea and actually fits into the Doctor Who canon and The Doctor's timeline perfectly. They should have done something like this instead of making The Doctor the creator of all Time Lords. I hope they erase the Timeless Child stuff from existence.
If by 'deep lore', you refer to whatever nonsense has been introduced since it was cancelled n the 1980s, then I am very glad not to get up in that drivel.
Only problem showing Capaldi is that The Doctor chose that face himself after saving Caecilius in ‘The fires of Pompei’ to remind himself to save people.
One thing that is often overlooked in this scene (remade or not) is that the Time Lords pretty much executed the Doctor. Regeneration has always been linked to death, both in the classic and modern series. You would think that the Doctor would have addressed this at some point, especially during the trial of his sixth incarnation. The Time Lords basically stole an entire life from him.
The best bit was fixing the TARDIS materialisation in the woods, from the jarring model work in Spearhead in Space. They should replace it in future releases of Spearhead
I haven’t been able to see the special because I’ve been on holiday, but only saw the start of this clip. I honestly thought it was a fan made job rather than what they actually went with! It’s like something JNT would do in the 80s!
We'll just act like Season 6B didn't happen, then? Never mind that the 2nd Doctor's regeneration was already shown in The Night Walkers, which takes place after The War Games. If the BBC were going to make any changes, they could've established that Season 6B happened, and adapt the regeneration from The Night Walkers.
@@SonofSethoitae Doctor Who doesn't have a canon, so stories that fall under 'Season 6B', such as World Game and The Night Walkers, count as much as anything else.
You know, there IS a point before he starts to spiral where you can see his face straight on. After I saw the original, I misremembered it and thought that Pertwee's face appeared there. Wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe some fan can do that.
Dang. Forcing the Doctor to choose his next appearance, while we're going deaf thanks to the poor sound mixing, and they're all incarnations he will become. Definitely an incredible bunch for sure!
Sorry but i just think this is stupid, Jodie and Peter were post regeneration cycle so they shouldn't know about them yet. 2. Removing hes too fat, because we literally cant have a single line in anything that doesnt deem to modern standards 3. Say what you want about them including Jodies image but frankly all the thats there for is to again try and Retcon into past episodes that the doctor can change gender.
When the doctor says he’s to old least Capaldi is seen, he’s too thin we see Tennant when he said that ones too young we see Whittaker, and when he said that one won’t do at all Smith appears
@@joshthedrewthey were going current era versions, and given the other two options were Eccleston or Gatwa, I’m not surprised Jodie got put in. Ncuti is the incumbent so story would be nonsensical in a way, and Eccleston… well, I think he’s seen as persona non grata right now with his criticisms (warranted imho), so - limited. I was surprised in a way Matt was the last one… but I thought it funny because he based his versions personality a bit on Troughton, so basically 2nd is spiting himself on keeping a bit more of his personality.
The person to ask about that would be a bloke called The Confession Dial on UA-cam that did an entire extended cut of the regeneration a few months back - that's where most of these clips of Jon and Pat in the TARDIS come from. :)
@ yeah, they tend to put a compilation up after the doctor regenerates and add the new one at the end, like when they did one for the 12th Doctor, you had his into 13 but you also had two 1st Doctor ones, the original and the one from Twice Upon A Time
I liken regeneration to being sick from too much drink: you try not to throw up, dragging yourself along the floor, bile in your throat, then you explosively puke your guts out. Afterwards, you feel awful, have to sleep it off and, after not feeling much like yourself for 24 hours, start to get back to normal! 😄
Or you had Romana who controlled the process so perfectly she was able to flip between different bodies before settling on one, AND showing the Doctor the various bodies between tries.
Radio Times at the time showed double page diagram of their faces from one through to three with two in middle so this never any question this is now it happened that way.
This isn't a fan edit. This is the ending of the War Games in colour - released by the BBC on 23rd December. The team who did The Daleks in Colour, have cut down, colourised and added the regeneration sequence to the War Games. This clip is from that. To muddy the water a bit, the regeneration sequence is a tweaked version of a fan edit by a YTuber called Confession Dial - which was added to this official release.
@hotdog1214 Oh I see. Thanks for clarifying. It was just the new doctors showing and the cgi of the regeneration that made me think it was something a fan put together. Especially the cgi of John Pertwee. The effects on the show are usually more realistic looking.
Of course he didn't really regenerate. The Time Lord's punishment was to 1. change his appearance and 2. take away memory of how to time travel. They never said "we're going to take away one of your lives by making you regenerate". So Doctor 2 and 3 are the same generation. This was only the second time they had to change actors, maybe the BBC thought it better to come up something different than the previous 1 to 2 regeneration.
please tell me this scene from "the War games in colour isnt what they showed" and this is a fan cover? cos if it is they replaced footage from the original, i wont want to see it.. If you gonna restore a film to colour.. honour the original.. NEVER do a ret-con edit... ffs it spoils the memory :(
I am not a fan of the future incarnations showing, but I wish they at least kept in the switch with matt smith and jodie where patrick says to jodie "this one wont do at all"
Very good point, as that's what always happens now. "Well... Here we go agai-" (atom bomb goes off in unit hq, killing the brigadier, Sarah, and everyone else in the room)
There’s a fan edit that did a better job with showing future incarnations that more accurately fit the disapproval descriptions that the Doctor gave here, but I appreciate the effort.
@@CaptApril123I believe that's just for the regeneration bit, the photographs of the future Doctors was done well before with Colin Baker in the "Too fat" role.
This is great. I haven't watched much of the early Doctors. Very surprised to see the scene of the Second Doctor debating with the Timelords what his next appearance will be like. In all these years, all the clips I've seen surrounding the topic of regeneration, I've never seen that one ever, and it's such a key scene!
I knew this would happen - promoting this as if it is the original episode rather than somebody's 2024 idea of the regeneration with all the 21st century nonsense added. Please change your title to tell the casual viewer this is not really what happened in 1969!
You don’t think the casual viewer might be able to figure out that HD promotional photographs of Matt Smith as the 11th Doctor in 2013 were not in the original 1969 broadcast?
@@jacobcurle8964 That bit is obvious with some thought, but the rest is concerning. Also, you need to remember content posted on YT now will be here in, say, 10 years time, for new generations to find and watch without question, because by then even Matt Smith is 'old Who'. Hence the horror of someone promoting a 'This is the 2nd Doctor's regeneration' thread - it isn't!
@@DarkGob No it's not because the point of much of the Doctor's adventures was to preserve causality and not break the laws of time. Anyone saying rewriting history is "what you'd expect from Doctor Who" has no idea about "Doctor Who".
Really really really hate with a passion the new age regeneration. With all the fire and explosions. The classic merging from the old to the new form is much better, as well as waking up in the old doctors clothes
Note how the "that one's too fat" has been removed.
We haven’t got a fat Doctor yet for them to use as an image. Maybe they’ll do that for the fifteenth.
Would probably be a bit harsh calling an actor fat. I don't think any of the incarnations of the Doctor were fat anyway.
@@basketcase6999 the 6th Doctor would have fitted - it was even part of his storyline, being put on an exercise and diet regime by Mel. But of course, we aren't allowed to say anyone's fat these days, so it was cut out, like it never happened. Ahhhhh, censorship.
@@theDWshowto be fair, it did tighten up the sequence
@@steveg5122 I'm not sold on that. We're talking, what? Two seconds? We're not clawing back some really noticeable amount of time.
0:20 showing his future incarnations, two of them even past his regeneration cycle, is funny enough. But the Time Lords really decided to make the Doctor look at the image of 13 holding the fob watch containing a past they are holding from him lol
Surprised they did not use Peter Davison. He was still in his teens as the time, but one of the original illustrations did resemble the Davison Doctor. Jodie Whittaker I understand confirming that the Time Lords are true gender benders.
They were like “lol guess what she got in her hands buddy”
They should have given a couple of the options as RTD or The Moff.
@@donmccullen1973He was twenty something when he played the doctor I think
@donmccullen1973 he was 29 when he became the Doctor. Surprised they didn't have a clip of Pertwee.
The best part is that mid regeneration he looks like Sean Pertwee
I still have a hope that Sean Pertwee will play the 3rd doctor someday.
I was sorta expecting Sean Pertwee to cameo haha
For a moment, I actually thought it was him.
@@mrsmirnoff8715it will never happen beyond some new pictures that were used for the 50th anniversary special cause he has started he never wants to be compared to his father or diminish what his father did on the show
Using the future incarnations was a terrible idea. "You never know what you're going to get" undermined.
Call it a comical nod.
if they were going to do something like this it should have been the classic doctors shown.
I love how the Tardis can't decide if it's the 1970s or the 1980s. The 10th doctor said he worked for UNIT back then but didn't know exactly when it was. Good thinking, RTD
Moffat addressed it too, in The Day Of The Doctor when Kate and Clara pass by some files deatiling Doctor's involvement with UNIT in the Black Archive, Kate says that they are "from the 1970's or 1980's, *depending on the dating protocol."*
The UNIT dating controversy has been subject of debate for 50 years. Web of Fear was set forty years after the Abominable Snowmen which had been set in 1935. The Doctor re-united with Lethbridge-Stewart four years later. Jo Grant was forty years after 1926 as she said in Carnival of Monsters and Sarah Jane said she was from 1980. Mao Zedong happens to be alive even though he died in 1976 and Thatcher happens to be PM making Terror of the Zygons set in or after 1979. Personally, Pertwee is set in the late 1970s.
@@fadikhoory5350My mind canon is a compromise between 1970 and 1980, with the 3rd Doctor arriving on Earth in 1975, so that five years later, Sarah can be from 1980 in "Pyramids of Mars".
Yes I thought that more than deliberate
I would say, 1976-7 as Sarah Jane Smith said she was from 1980 in the pyramids of mars.
The way they addressed the dating controversy was genius!
The regeneration was created by the Confession Dial on UA-cam
And if you look really closely, the "error code" as the date jumps back and forth spells "Mawdryn" backwards
And “6F” was the story code and 83 was the year it was broadcast.
2:07 love the little foreshadowing to Spearheads From Space with the meteorites!
Personally, I felt like this was exhibit A in everything wrong with the desire to force connectivity at the expense of good storytelling.
The Second Doctor's regeneration is horrifying and tragic. His last moments are in pain and discomfort, seeing him spiral further and further away from us into a dark abyss... and the next time we see the Doctor, it's a new man who collapses out of the TARDIS. It's an incredible end to one of the most ambitious and brilliant serials in the show's history.
But there's a certain kind of fan that demands a checklist be ticked off for regeneration. "We need to see the moment it happens! We need to see the face morph!" - bollocks to that, it's completely extraneous here, and frankly it reduces the impact of the original. No disrespect to the people who worked on these extra scenes, but does it really actually add anything to see the Doctor sitting in a chair in the TARDIS as he is engulfed in regeneration energy just to make it more modern?
The colourisation work on this was fantastic, but if there's one thing this 90-minute cut made clear it's that you just cannot touch the original.
It also completely contradicts the Season 6B theory, which kinda got confirmed by the 5 Doctors and 2 Doctors
Honestly all of war games is the only time the time lords felt like a true threat and you almost felt a sense of uneasy the whole time . I think it’s a such a poor choice to make them this decadent bunch of old farts and then I guess it got better when they initially built on the time war as a concept but it got flanderised when they had to visualise things like nightmare child and all the other events mentions off handed. Less is good. I’m only accepting a complete reboot of this show now. Canon or not they already shot themselves in the foot
I enjoyed the colour, but not the edits. There is a certain appeal in having things not be confirmed or denied by the creators. It allows us the audience to come up with wild theories that fit in the canon but also can be disproved just as quick. By telling us certain details through edits, it solidifies the truth and destroys the mystery. The joy of a mystery is not knowing whether it's true or false.
@@novawolf_gamingno it didn’t we got to see flashes of season 6b right before his regeneration
Well said
Love the glimpse of the pod that would be a major plot point in the next story.
Good catch. I saw them but it just didn't register in my dusty databanks.
They couldn't have known past 12 at the time. They didnt even begin the time war until after.
kinda wish they had used sketches of the future incarnation's faces, similar to the sketches used in the original, instead of the stock images. that way it's less "these are your future selves" and more "these are faces you may possibly have in the future **wink wink** **nudge nudge** ". having them just use promo images, some even holding their screwdrivers and everything, is a little weird.
@highway_roadkill agreed
@@highway_roadkill A plot point in one of the post-classic novels was that one of the faces offered to him was the face of the evil parallel-Earth leader in Inferno - spinning him into guilt because he could have been that evil leader.
Whoever thought it was "cutesy" to put future regenerations into the clip doesn't understand the story and shouldn't be allowed near clips.
They had one job to just colour the original episodes. Fan edits need to stay as fan edits and not as official changes.
I agree. Stop changing history
Nobody's changing history or anything. This is an optional alternate way to experience the original. It doesn't replace the original.
@SuperCookie64 it's advertised as a colourization, not an alternative
@@TheChibiCrew The way it is named is just focussing on the most central change. With this one being so massively cut for time (more than half of the original runtime removed!), it implicitly is an alternative edition to me. If a "directors cut" doesn't have "alternative version" in the title, that still does not remove the original from existence either.
Unless this scene is somehow picked up by the main show putting some more arguments towards this being the "real version", its entirely up to personal preference what you see as the "canon" way.
@@SWSe2 let's just be real, anything after Peter capaldi doesn't really matter
Seconds responses:
3: that one is too posh
4: too crazy
5: is he a time lord or a con man?
6: well he is too fat isn't he?
7: time lord? More like a penguin
8: Do I have a mid-life crisis?
9: Too brazen.
14: you already showed him to me.
15: that one is too emotional.
cackled at “that’s too old!” & “that’s too thin!” Lolol
The doctor sure does loves insulting his other selves lmao, how the timelords were smirking
@@snickerboi3723the “He’s Too Fat” segment is edited out and that would have been Colin Baker(Ms. Piggy).
And you wouldn't be cackling at 'well he's too fat isn't he?'
@@fadikhoory5350 yet that part was omitted and I wonder why??? Oh yes, it’s now a censorship issue as the media is too sensitive to acknowledge it as it is consider xenophobic. Just can’t joke anymore.
@@fadikhoory5350 I would to be honest haha, Colin baker pops up “he’s too fat isn’t he”
imagine being outclassed by Devious, a project made out of what, two bits and string in the 1990s?
They really showed clips of future Doctors instead of the original alternatives?
In one of the post-classic novels, they had a scene where one of the faces he was offered was the face of the evil parallel-Earth leader in the episode "Inferno".
They couldn't just do a colourisation, they *had* to mess the video up by showing future incarnations?
Don’t like that they used future incarnations, they shouldn’t have just stuck with the original sketches
Even sketches of the future doctors would work, instead of actual images. This looks fanmade.
Luckily this fan edit isn't canon so it can be ignored or just dismissed as a bit of fun.
It is not fan made. The war games was condensed, recoloured and uploaded onto the BBC iPlayer.
Considering how the Shalkra Doctor was canonised in the episode Rogue I wish he was a optional incarnation shown to the Second Doctor
I think it would be funny (and better) to use ones from Curse of Fatal Death.
3:31 need to touch grass.
Love how they used the fan-made Confession Dial video
Probably my biggest gripe with this was they used promo images of new who incarnations when classic would’ve also worked just as well. Would’ve been better if Matt Smith was the “that one’s too young” because he IS the youngest to play the role. The special felt like just another Daleks in colour mess
You don't want to do a disservice to previous actors playing the role. A lot of fans did *not* like the casting of Jodie Whitaker as the Doctor because of the gender switching, and were blatant about it to the point of rhetorical abuse. "This won't do at all" would have given the impression that the episode revisers implicitly agreed with those fans.
I think this is an interesting idea but its also sacrilegious because it gets rid of the mysterious lure of how Patrick troughton regenerated into Jon Pertwee from black & white to colour. But this edit is interesting and fascinating but it gets rid of the feeling of finding out what happened between the war games and spearhead from space
Not sure about that. We just know they send him back to the Tardis and he regenerates in the chair. It could have had many adventures before he sat down.
Most likely especially with the three doctors and five doctors
@@AkeeyanI2 And Two Doctors... though I can certainly understand why you might not want to think about that one too much.
The main reason there was no regeneration shown originally was because when they shot the scene they didn’t have the next regeneration casted yet and to give fans new content while they casted a new doctor the comic released new original adventure of the doctor now known as season 6b
@@kevin10001 Past tense of cast is still cast, not casted.
Lmfao the promo shoot photos they use take me out lmaoo
I'll keep watching the original thanks.
I like how when he came out of the Tardis at the end of the video, it shook and wobbled a bit just like a summerhouse bought from B&Q.
That is a genuine clip from 'Spearhead from Space' part 1, the first time we actually saw Jon Pertwee in the classic era. He spent the rest of the episode unconscious.
That was really pretty good, and rather touching. Glad to see he was Terminally Cranky, from the very beginning!
Saw this like brilliant 😁 thanks for the upload
I’m glad you enjoyed ☺️ I know that people outside the UK can’t watch 💙
0:14 How did they know what doctor they would pick over the years. I thought they would find random famous people and pick them to be the doctor. Did they reserve their spots or something.
Should have been other Doctors like Peter Cushing or Richard E. Grant. Or Rowan Atkinson.
It's fan service
This isn't the original version of the story. They added in the other Doctors for the remaster. They originally used sketches.
I feel like Matt and Jodie should have been switched.
My favourite doctor out of them all..Jon Pertwee .😊
None of you guys realize that this was not done by the BBC, but this was done by a fan and posted here on UA-cam one year ago. Look up The Confession Dial. This person also did a Sixth Doctor regeneration 4 years ago.
@@robert_roland63 I credited him on the description :)
My apologies. I glossed over the description. I must say the work done on those regeneration sequences are amazing!
I found out about the regeneration was included in The War Games on a recent broadcast or was it iPlayer. I so wish I could see that in the US, but I am sure we will soon!
So... Why are 13 and 12 there? Because putting the Timeless Child stuff to one side just for a moment, they're from a new set of regenerations he got at the end of 'Time of the Doctor'. The Time Lords shouldnt know they even exist.
You answered your own question. You can't put the Timeless Child to one side, and that sequence was added after Chibnall introduced the concept.
@@dazdavey3566 Blimey it's all getting a bit messy, isnt it?
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ;)
@@josephf.4540 exactly
Spot on, this bugs me too.
Even granting that the Timeless Child stuff means The Doctor would have unknowingly actually had further regenerations available (not my preferred canon, but whatever)... It was meant to be a big deal that there would be more incarnations past the Eleventh. It was meant to be a proper shock and legitimate surprise when "(No Sir,) ALL THIRTEEN" Doctors show up to save Gallifrey on the last day of the Time War.
But nah, nevermind that... It turns out all those future incarnations were well documented and on the record as early as the War Games. Just patiently waiting for their respective series, all according to the BBC release schedule.
He should not have been shown the 12th doctor.
That appearance is unique as the dctor took it to remind hinself to save people. Like the people in the fires of Pompeii.
Well done! PT and JP would both be proud, were they here today to see this.
Of all the regenerations this was the saddest.
Season 6B fans weeping.
It still works in the cannon
Well...not quite.
6B has the 2nd Doctor retain his face for several years in between the sentence and his regen. That gap can still be inferred....we don't see the start of the actual regen inside the TARDIS
Yeah... 6B still happens, its in between the scene where the Doctor's on trial, and the scene where he's on that TV screen. 0:45 that black screen is where 6B takes place
@@HazarTulumYou mean the moment he literally starts regenerating?
@@T_Black_Lodge no? He literally starts regenerating when he's in the TARDIS in this version
I'm still convinced that Two regenerated into the Fugitive Doctor. It makes sense given that her Tardis closely resembled the Second's on the exterior and interior. And given that the first we see of Three is him falling out of the same Tardis, that seems like a perfect place to patch the Fugitive into the timeline. Any rumors that she predates the First Doctor is just a result of Toymaker shenanigans.
He did.
The CIA takes Two a picosecond before the spinning faces
He works for the CIA
He regenerates into Ruth
She Escapes
Gets caught by the CIA and they degen her back to Two with an extra regeneration
Two is placed back at the end of War Games to regenerate into Two
Three was the face the Time Lords choose, Ruth would have been his true regeneration.
Also the bits with the future incarnations aren't canon.
This is an amazing idea and actually fits into the Doctor Who canon and The Doctor's timeline perfectly. They should have done something like this instead of making The Doctor the creator of all Time Lords. I hope they erase the Timeless Child stuff from existence.
What drivel are you spouting?
@@kiernanwalker3852 deep lore shit. You wouldn't get it.
If by 'deep lore', you refer to whatever nonsense has been introduced since it was cancelled n the 1980s, then I am very glad not to get up in that drivel.
Only problem showing Capaldi is that The Doctor chose that face himself after saving Caecilius in ‘The fires of Pompei’ to remind himself to save people.
Christ this is an official BBC release?
Yes. The War Machine - in colour. The 10 part series, colourised & edited down to a 90 minute special.
@@wylco1959I watched the original series, and it really dragged. 3 or 4 half-hour episodes would have been fine, but ten was far too much.
I prefer the original, because it implies that the Time Lords knew about the second regeneration cycle due to Peter Capaldi being an option here.
Been watching the OG stuff on Tubi. Just about to start The War Games, so I'll be seeing the actual footage real soon. Very excited! ❤❤
One thing that is often overlooked in this scene (remade or not) is that the Time Lords pretty much executed the Doctor. Regeneration has always been linked to death, both in the classic and modern series. You would think that the Doctor would have addressed this at some point, especially during the trial of his sixth incarnation. The Time Lords basically stole an entire life from him.
Just can’t leave things alone can you? 🙄
The best bit was fixing the TARDIS materialisation in the woods, from the jarring model work in Spearhead in Space. They should replace it in future releases of Spearhead
I haven’t been able to see the special because I’ve been on holiday, but only saw the start of this clip. I honestly thought it was a fan made job rather than what they actually went with! It’s like something JNT would do in the 80s!
This isn't available to watch in my country, did they really add the modern doctors there?
They did in fact. This is how it was aired on BBC Four.
We'll just act like Season 6B didn't happen, then? Never mind that the 2nd Doctor's regeneration was already shown in The Night Walkers, which takes place after The War Games. If the BBC were going to make any changes, they could've established that Season 6B happened, and adapt the regeneration from The Night Walkers.
What's The Night Walkers?
@@ACtheLegend A short comic book story from 1966.
@@rockysandman5489 - It's both brilliant and as creepy as hell. Far more inventive, in fact, than a great deal of modern era Who.
You understand that 6b has never been canon and that comics and novels have no bearing on the television series, right?
@@SonofSethoitae Doctor Who doesn't have a canon, so stories that fall under 'Season 6B', such as World Game and The Night Walkers, count as much as anything else.
You know, there IS a point before he starts to spiral where you can see his face straight on. After I saw the original, I misremembered it and thought that Pertwee's face appeared there. Wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe some fan can do that.
Dang. Forcing the Doctor to choose his next appearance, while we're going deaf thanks to the poor sound mixing, and they're all incarnations he will become. Definitely an incredible bunch for sure!
_Holy Hadrojassic,_ that gave me chills… 😲
3:14 This is brilliant, haha! 😂
Sorry but i just think this is stupid, Jodie and Peter were post regeneration cycle so they shouldn't know about them yet.
2. Removing hes too fat, because we literally cant have a single line in anything that doesnt deem to modern standards
3. Say what you want about them including Jodies image but frankly all the thats there for is to again try and Retcon into past episodes that the doctor can change gender.
It’s a kid’s show. It’s trying to grow up. We could all learn from that example.
Replacing the faces with future Doctors is goofy enough, but they at least could have picked better images than just slapping the promo images in
When the doctor says he’s to old least Capaldi is seen, he’s too thin we see Tennant when he said that ones too young we see Whittaker, and when he said that one won’t do at all Smith appears
Should have switched Jodie with matt for too young.
A female doctor would have been ridiculed in 1969 unfortunately.
I would’ve changed it to too young is Matt Smith then won’t do at all is either Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann or Christopher Eccleston
@@joshthedrewthey were going current era versions, and given the other two options were Eccleston or Gatwa, I’m not surprised Jodie got put in.
Ncuti is the incumbent so story would be nonsensical in a way, and Eccleston… well, I think he’s seen as persona non grata right now with his criticisms (warranted imho), so - limited.
I was surprised in a way Matt was the last one… but I thought it funny because he based his versions personality a bit on Troughton, so basically 2nd is spiting himself on keeping a bit more of his personality.
@@MediaArchive2-z9f Ironic, considering that Troughton was the first to suggest a female Doctor.
0:14-0:24 nice & accurate editing 😂
He looks like Tony Montana in the thumbnail 😂
SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND (points at K9)
Must have been a shock to transform into someone older. I’d be out looking for hair dye straightaway.
I don’t like how they changed the previews but other than that this is really cool
Oh no... that one looks like a scarecrow!
Ok Russell - now that you’ve obliterated the 6B theory, explain The Two Doctors.
simply brilliant
Why is he in the 5th Doctor’s TARDIS suddenly?
How the hell did they do it with a younger Jon?
CGI, likely bits from his first serial.
They used clips from his first season
The person to ask about that would be a bloke called The Confession Dial on UA-cam that did an entire extended cut of the regeneration a few months back - that's where most of these clips of Jon and Pat in the TARDIS come from. :)
I wonder when they update the ‘Regenerations 1966 - 202?’ If they include this, it is official BBC job I don’t see why not
Presume that will be whenever 15 regenerates
@ yeah, they tend to put a compilation up after the doctor regenerates and add the new one at the end, like when they did one for the 12th Doctor, you had his into 13 but you also had two 1st Doctor ones, the original and the one from Twice Upon A Time
A regeneration is like having a panic attack
I liken regeneration to being sick from too much drink: you try not to throw up, dragging yourself along the floor, bile in your throat, then you explosively puke your guts out. Afterwards, you feel awful, have to sleep it off and, after not feeling much like yourself for 24 hours, start to get back to normal! 😄
Or you had Romana who controlled the process so perfectly she was able to flip between different bodies before settling on one, AND showing the Doctor the various bodies between tries.
@ 💯🎯
Hes not The Doctor, he's a very naughty boy! ❤
Radio Times at the time showed double page diagram of their faces from one through to three with two in middle so this never any question this is now it happened that way.
What did they do in the TARDIS, deep fake Troughton and Pertwee with the right models/actors?
I love this! Very well done!
His heads a bit small in the regeneration scene
Technically too thin could be seen as offensive too
I really liked this. Do you plan to do any other fan edits? Or just this one?
This isn't a fan edit. This is the ending of the War Games in colour - released by the BBC on 23rd December. The team who did The Daleks in Colour, have cut down, colourised and added the regeneration sequence to the War Games. This clip is from that.
To muddy the water a bit, the regeneration sequence is a tweaked version of a fan edit by a YTuber called Confession Dial - which was added to this official release.
@hotdog1214 Oh I see. Thanks for clarifying. It was just the new doctors showing and the cgi of the regeneration that made me think it was something a fan put together. Especially the cgi of John Pertwee. The effects on the show are usually more realistic looking.
Did they really add those modern doctors to it? That’s just wrong
I'd like to see ty tennant or harry melling play next doctor who because they are grandchildren of peter davison and patrick trougton?
Wow...
I dont remember it happening that way?
Gotcha!
There's a chair in the tardis
George Lucas level meddling
Of course he didn't really regenerate. The Time Lord's punishment was to 1. change his appearance and 2. take away memory of how to time travel. They never said "we're going to take away one of your lives by making you regenerate". So Doctor 2 and 3 are the same generation. This was only the second time they had to change actors, maybe the BBC thought it better to come up something different than the previous 1 to 2 regeneration.
@@wjstix nope, it's spelled out with no margin for error or confusion in Time of the Doctor that it was a regeneration.
Hate these bastardisations of the classic stories - so glad i have the original versions.
That's fun. And a helluva lot better than Lucas's Special Editions! 😂
Where is this from?
Excellent work !!!!
please tell me this scene from "the War games in colour isnt what they showed" and this is a fan cover? cos if it is they replaced footage from the original, i wont want to see it.. If you gonna restore a film to colour.. honour the original.. NEVER do a ret-con edit... ffs it spoils the memory :(
The woke is strong with this video.
Censoring Patrick Troughton is pure f'ing evil.
I am not a fan of the future incarnations showing, but I wish they at least kept in the switch with matt smith and jodie where patrick says to jodie "this one wont do at all"
I prefered that drawn version of the future doctors, not google images where theyre holding the sonic loll
That would just be exploited by right wing Doctor Who fans, they would see it as validation, and they don’t deserve it.
Why didn’t his TARDIS explode?
Why would it explode?
Regeneration doesn’t cause the tardis to explode
Very good point, as that's what always happens now. "Well... Here we go agai-" (atom bomb goes off in unit hq, killing the brigadier, Sarah, and everyone else in the room)
Season 6b happens at 1:31 everyone stop complaining about this contradicting it when it explicitly acknowledges it
This is just flashbacks. Nothing to do with season 6b
That's just previous stories from the 2nd Doctor's era
Thought you were going to have him turn into Ruth
You’ve redecorated me. I don’t like it.
There’s a fan edit that did a better job with showing future incarnations that more accurately fit the disapproval descriptions that the Doctor gave here, but I appreciate the effort.
I think the person that did that edit was actually hired for this one.
@@CaptApril123Yes. The Confession Dial collaborated with the BBC on this. This is their work.
@@CaptApril123I believe that's just for the regeneration bit, the photographs of the future Doctors was done well before with Colin Baker in the "Too fat" role.
the revised ending of my favorite doctor who story. i don't like it.
PC - probably Davies at work....
I like this version… I liked the second and third Doctors.
Keeping the original.
Poor 2. Forced to regenerate.
This is great. I haven't watched much of the early Doctors. Very surprised to see the scene of the Second Doctor debating with the Timelords what his next appearance will be like. In all these years, all the clips I've seen surrounding the topic of regeneration, I've never seen that one ever, and it's such a key scene!
Still 10 times better than today's rubbish
I knew this would happen - promoting this as if it is the original episode rather than somebody's 2024 idea of the regeneration with all the 21st century nonsense added. Please change your title to tell the casual viewer this is not really what happened in 1969!
You don’t think the casual viewer might be able to figure out that HD promotional photographs of Matt Smith as the 11th Doctor in 2013 were not in the original 1969 broadcast?
@@jacobcurle8964 That bit is obvious with some thought, but the rest is concerning. Also, you need to remember content posted on YT now will be here in, say, 10 years time, for new generations to find and watch without question, because by then even Matt Smith is 'old Who'. Hence the horror of someone promoting a 'This is the 2nd Doctor's regeneration' thread - it isn't!
This is orwellian. Rewritting history on a time travel show.
my guy it's a TV show
also rewriting history is literally the exact thing you would expect from a time travel show
@@DarkGob No it's not because the point of much of the Doctor's adventures was to preserve causality and not break the laws of time. Anyone saying rewriting history is "what you'd expect from Doctor Who" has no idea about "Doctor Who".
An abomination how they have retconned this! Just colourize the original transmissions!
agreed. And I also loved the regeneration scene so I would just leave that part in. (I want to make my own edits)
@@emptyspotlight yeah, that was the only good part of it.
Really really really hate with a passion the new age regeneration. With all the fire and explosions.
The classic merging from the old to the new form is much better, as well as waking up in the old doctors clothes
An absolute desecration of the war games.