Extra bellissima: "Vidit suum" (23:37), Eja Mate (28:50) - which emulates "Pergolesi in its melodic traits, rhythmic quirks, and thin texture; 51:10 XI. Flammis orci ne succendar (Bass) 51:10 in the key Johann Christian Bach. The premiere probably took place on Good Friday 1768 (?). The first public performance in Vienna under the direction of the composer is recorded in 1771. In 1803, Haydn had the Stabat Mater arranged for a revival by his student Sigismund von Neukomm. Under Haydn's supervision, this added "increased instrumentation": the orchestra of the original version was joined by a flute, two clarinets, two bassoons, two horns, two trumpets and timpani, as well as three trombones as choir reinforcement.
Not sure of its use for Good Friday. Liturgically it was used on September 15 th or on the Friday before the Holy Week, not in Good Friday. Actually, the Stabat Mater is not a liturgical sequence for Holy Week. It is sometimes used, but extraliturgically, for example during the Papal Via Crucis in the Coliseum. I mean "it was used" before the Novus Ordo Liturgy in use from the seventies.
I think you probably know this, but for the avoidance of doubt for others, Haydn’s only extant horn concerto is the one in D major Hob. VIId:3. There are probably a greater number of lost works in the concerto category than any other with Haydn - concertos for flute, bassoon, horn, two horns, violin, baryton, double bass, and some other maybe’s in terms of who actually wrote them are all on the casualty list. Many of these are unlikely to be ever rediscovered as they were generally speaking early works written for the leaders in the Eszterhazy court orchestra, and the manuscripts and copies were probably destroyed in at least three major fires that engulfed both Eszterhaza and Eisenstadt during Haydn’s time there. In contrast, there are no missing symphonies or string quartets, though the exact number of piano sonatas is uncertain as some are ‘doubtful’, and there is a set of six lost sonatas plus at least one other missing today (Hob. XVI:2a-g), a major loss as they were written during Haydn’s sturm und drang period. (Perhaps more surprisingly, there are a small number of very significant lost works from the late visits to London between 1791 and 1795). Hope that’s useful to a wider audience.
Eine wunderschöne Musik und wunderbare Musiker mit Instrument oder Stimme. Ich hätte mich geweigert mit Maske zu spielen, völliger Unsinn !Vielen Dank ❤
The entirely unnecessary masking of the instrumentalists does not age well. The music is more than adequate, but the optics are unsettling if not ominous.
Schön, das Werk einmal mit der durch Haydn autorisierten erweiterten Bläserbesetzung von S. Neukomm zu hören. Nur schade, dass dem excellent spielenden Orchester und Chor keine adequaten Solistinnen gegenüber standen. Die beiden Frauen beherrschen schlichtweg ihr Handwerk nicht. Peinlich, aber leider heutzutage fast Standard. Dafür ein super Bass und auch Steve Davislim ist ein guter Sänger, dem aber die Alt-Musik Singerei nicht entgegen kommt. Herr Jacobs scheint die Musik, wenn nicht dazu gesungen wird, nicht sonderlich zu schätzen. Warum sonst würde er immer dann das Metrum beschleunigen, als wäre es unbedeutendes Füllwerk.......
Nice but it sounds to my ears and on my laptop a bit tiring and muddy because of that concert hall which adds hard reflections but no sweetness, no charm at all. No blame for the musicians or conductor however.
Greatly performed. But: Always, always, always too slow, classical singers sing slow. Period instruments? Nope. In the strings not a single one. Woodwinds are doubtful...
Not only that, but also an annoying habit of allways going from pp to ff when singing a frase that is going up. Especially the Fac Me Tecum is spoiled by this .
is this only so, when cameras are around that the soloist have to drag attention to themselves by beautiful handywork (was that a tenorvoice?) od exiting nightclub outfits ( the alto under the cross...), the bass without bassnotes, the konzertmeister like a schoolboy in need of these pills?
What a splendid, impeccable rendition of this sacred piece of music in these terrible times of war and destruction.
Extra bellissima: "Vidit suum" (23:37), Eja Mate (28:50) - which emulates "Pergolesi in its melodic traits, rhythmic quirks, and thin texture; 51:10 XI. Flammis orci ne succendar (Bass) 51:10 in the key Johann Christian Bach. The premiere probably took place on Good Friday 1768 (?). The first public performance in Vienna under the direction of the composer is recorded in 1771. In 1803, Haydn had the Stabat Mater arranged for a revival by his student Sigismund von Neukomm. Under Haydn's supervision, this added "increased instrumentation": the orchestra of the original version was joined by a flute, two clarinets, two bassoons, two horns, two trumpets and timpani, as well as three trombones as choir reinforcement.
1768!
Not sure of its use for Good Friday. Liturgically it was used on September 15 th or on the Friday before the Holy Week, not in Good Friday. Actually, the Stabat Mater is not a liturgical sequence for Holy Week. It is sometimes used, but extraliturgically, for example during the Papal Via Crucis in the Coliseum. I mean "it was used" before the Novus Ordo Liturgy in use from the seventies.
Comme à l’accoutumée , parfait .
Que maravilha interpretação. Sublime. Vielen Dank!💐💐👏👏👏
До чего же хорошо! Слушаю и переслушиваю много раз! Great, excellent, thank you!
Superb execution.
Wonderful.
Ein gutes orchester chor dirigent sänger video
The Fac me vere has a structure very very similar to the slow movement of the "second" horn concert.
I think you probably know this, but for the avoidance of doubt for others, Haydn’s only extant horn concerto is the one in D major Hob. VIId:3.
There are probably a greater number of lost works in the concerto category than any other with Haydn - concertos for flute, bassoon, horn, two horns, violin, baryton, double bass, and some other maybe’s in terms of who actually wrote them are all on the casualty list.
Many of these are unlikely to be ever rediscovered as they were generally speaking early works written for the leaders in the Eszterhazy court orchestra, and the manuscripts and copies were probably destroyed in at least three major fires that engulfed both Eszterhaza and Eisenstadt during Haydn’s time there.
In contrast, there are no missing symphonies or string quartets, though the exact number of piano sonatas is uncertain as some are ‘doubtful’, and there is a set of six lost sonatas plus at least one other missing today (Hob. XVI:2a-g), a major loss as they were written during Haydn’s sturm und drang period.
(Perhaps more surprisingly, there are a small number of very significant lost works from the late visits to London between 1791 and 1795).
Hope that’s useful to a wider audience.
True.
For reference the study by Anna Levernz about the authorship of the "second" Horn concert by Joseph (available online).
Il s'agit d'une excellente exécution, malgré la difficulté d'après la gestion sanitaire. L'interprétation est si profonde.
❤️❤️❤️❤️👏🏻
So muss das klingen!
Eine wunderschöne Musik und wunderbare Musiker mit Instrument oder
Stimme. Ich hätte mich geweigert mit Maske zu spielen, völliger Unsinn !Vielen Dank ❤
Dann hättest Du leider nicht mitgespielt. Für Musiker war das eine harte Zeit.
Спасибо !Спасибо еще за А.Скарлатти последнее время он становиться моим любимым композитором.
Who did add the parts for the wind instruments?
Sigismund Neukomm, under Haydn's supervision.
@@gustavwetterbrandt9259 thanks you very much. I know Neukomm added parts to other Haydn's works, but I didn't know about his Stabat.
Самый интересный Стабат Матер у А.Скарлатти
The entirely unnecessary masking of the instrumentalists does not age well. The music is more than adequate, but the optics are unsettling if not ominous.
Schön, das Werk einmal mit der durch Haydn autorisierten erweiterten Bläserbesetzung von S. Neukomm zu hören. Nur schade, dass dem excellent spielenden Orchester und Chor keine adequaten Solistinnen gegenüber standen. Die beiden Frauen beherrschen schlichtweg ihr Handwerk nicht. Peinlich, aber leider heutzutage fast Standard. Dafür ein super Bass und auch Steve Davislim ist ein guter Sänger, dem aber die Alt-Musik Singerei nicht entgegen kommt. Herr Jacobs scheint die Musik, wenn nicht dazu gesungen wird, nicht sonderlich zu schätzen. Warum sonst würde er immer dann das Metrum beschleunigen, als wäre es unbedeutendes Füllwerk.......
Nice but it sounds to my ears and on my laptop a bit tiring and muddy because of that concert hall which adds hard reflections but no sweetness, no charm at all. No blame for the musicians or conductor however.
Greatly performed.
But: Always, always, always too slow, classical singers sing slow. Period instruments? Nope. In the strings not a single one. Woodwinds are doubtful...
Not only that, but also an annoying habit of allways going from pp to ff when singing a frase that is going up. Especially the Fac Me Tecum is spoiled by this .
is this only so, when cameras are around that the soloist have to drag attention to themselves by beautiful handywork (was that a tenorvoice?) od exiting nightclub outfits ( the alto under the cross...), the bass without bassnotes, the konzertmeister like a schoolboy in need of these pills?
völlig blöd mit den Masken. Bravi, die nicht mitgemacht!
So it's ok for the wind players and singers to get Covid? 😷 Rene Jacobs, too? 🤧 The violas get to live, but not the conductor?! 🤣