The solution works at Charge process decomposing PbSO4 by receiving electron in electrochemistry. For large batteries like UPS, Forklift, it's so hard to create Charge/Discharge process, so we inject the solution and keep using the battery for 2 to 4 weeks, then specific gravity will come up, also voltage condition as well.
Mr. Pogsit Pogapo Our solution can put Salfation (crystallized PbSO4) back to the electrochemical cycle but physical damages. We have customers using lead batteries over 12 years with their own well maintenance.
"1.25v is not good enough, each cell needs to be 2v" The measure is not voltage. it is the Specific Gravity of the electrolyte expressed as mmHg (millimetres of mercury). The mmHg of a fully charged battery is 1250 which is what the hydrometer recorded. Note, the instrument used is made to display the condition of a lead acid battery and anything in the "Green Zone" is to be considered Good! Peter.
It's called specific gravity. its measuring how many times heaver the acid is than distilled water. A standby battery is usually more dilute than a car battery, They are less interested in peak performance, and more interested in calendar life. The zones on that hydrometer are based on a high performance starting battery, so it won't reach green on a standby battery.
I think batteries die when the lead oxide comes off the cathode and the lead migrates to the anode and the oxygen from the lead oxide bubbles out of the battery. Lots of lead oxide winds up on the bottom of the battery too, and you can't get it back on the cathode, ever.
Hello Abcde, you are right. That makes difficulty on our product. Many people mixed up Physical damage and Chemical damage as PbSO4. We can put Sulfation back to the cycle but lead plates damage.
A reading of 1.1 is a completely flat battery. A well used but not physically damaged battery cannot be 10x worse than completely flat. Chemicals cannot be used to repair a physically damaged battery. But it can be used for desulfation. The confusing part is the battery manufacture would treat sulfation as damage.
It ate away the sulfation from the top down, but still quite a bit remaining towards the bottom. Most batteries are sealed so I can't see this being something you can use except on older batteries that have removable cell tops.
Ebay still has new batteries with caps. Also if you already have an old battery, you can keep it going for quite a while. I have a 17 year old battery, and it is still limping along with occasional chemical injection. I use locally available chemicals.
I have a suspicion that sealed LA batteries are no different than ones with caps. They are just easier to transport and do not need filling before selling. And as they fail sooner they can sell more. But of course they still can actually be topped up. You have to cut a hole in the top,of each cell, then reseal it.
@@markthomasson5077 Many of the "sealed" batteries have plugs in each cell, they just aren't made to be easy and readily accessible. My sealed Interstate deep cycle batteries have six plugs, one over each cell, under the label. They are flush and hard to see unless you're looking for them but they come out an allow servicing.
Hmm, just Epsom salt in destilled Water and then pulschargingt the battery with a JouleThief or Bedini circuit works also. You probably added also nanographite or graphene or just carbon black for better conductivity, so the inner resistance (impedance) of the battery is getting lower..But it is generating also lots of HHO gas during charging, so could also be used as an HHO gas generator ! ;)
All telecom batteries are like that as well. Some are round and some are clear but none of them are that small. Least not in the central office battery banks. Each of their 2 volt batteries takes a fork truck to lift and take up more space then most peoples living rooms. They can average about 10,000 amps or more depending on office size. Their strings all run at -48 volts.
I like the fact that the cell links are on top so you can check the voltage of individual cells. I also like to voltage balance cells when batteries are floating on the line, when in standby. The clear case is nice, because you can actually see the plates and current collectors. I'm trying to find Deep Cycle versions of this battery. Standby batteries have long calendar lives, but won't last long in cyclic use. I want them for solar.
***** Thanks, Yes some of these are made to be like the old batteries from the 50's-60's but they're hard to find also. I have two and can't remember anymore where they came from. Thanks John
That's great that it improved the specific gravity of the electrolyte, but I would have liked to see the data on discharge. Was there an improvement in the amp hours each time it was discharged? That's the bottom line, that it has the capacity to serve its purpose. That's a beautiful battery to look at. It has the cell links on top, so it can be voltage balanced, and so you can measure the voltage of individual cells. It's also easy to see the water level, and inspect the plates. What brand is that, and do they make those in deep cycle? That's the battery I'm looking for for my solar install. A standby battery won't last long in cyclic use like that. I can't find them anywhere.
This solution works during charge proces, so we normally inject it to the battery ready to replace or brand new for prevention of Sulfation. You can find more info on www.ecoglobe21.com
That is just a myth, it doesn't actually work. 90% of lead battery failures are due to sulfating build up on the lead plates effectively lowering its life span. This is just natural process, it prevent this you need to desulfate your cars battery every once in a while; either with a battery pulse device or a battery desulfator.
The voltage would be correct if the battery is not physically damaged, such as when the plates fall apart from ageing. The hydrometer measures the capacity at the correct voltage. 1.225 is about 80% of the new battery capacity. He did better at 1.25. A new battery is 1.28+.
How did you prepare a cutaway for the battery like that? I would like to do some tests on batteries where I can see what the results are as I go. Any advice?
Saludos, 1° Cual es la corriente realizas la carga ? 2° Cuan es la corriente de descarga ? 3° Que es el compuesto que aplicas para desulfatar las celdas?
german valenzuela hola la carga la realizan en modo equalizacion a 8 voltios por eso hay gasificacion para bateria de 6 volt con una corriente maxima de un decimo de la capacidad nominal de la bateria y el liquido parece q es polvo muy fino de carbon mineral para bajar la resistencia interna por consiguiente mejorar la conductividad entre placa positiva y negativa saludos.
The chemical "melts" the sulfation allowing some plate surface to be opened again for charging and discharging. Adding acid will be no use because it is the acid that created sulfation in the first place. When acid is converted to lead sulfate, electrical energy is released for powering your car. When electrical energy is applies to lead sulfate, the sulfate changes back to acid. This process is not 100% efficient. So each cycle of charge/discharge leaves more and more of the sulfate not converted back to acid. Eventually all the plates are completely covered by lead sulfate and cannot function any more.
It is not Chemical. The solution contains, Solvated Electron water with Carbon Black and EVA polymer. The point is an alternative way to deliver electron to Sulfation.
1.225 is 80% charge - 80% of the original new battery capacity. 1.25 is not stuffed. It's just not new battery like. If I had 1.25, I'd be laughing. I only get 1.225 after a full charge.
So, what common chemical is "the secret additive"? Epsom salts? Whatever it is and if you're selling it, I'll bet that you don't reveal what it is because you're selling it at many times the price of stuff from a chemical supply house.
Hmm--You're gassing that batt WAY Too Hard! All yer gonna do, doing that is Rot out the positive-plates (Oxygen decomposition of the lead grid structure into lead peroxide) leaving grid weak, deformed/buckled and or broken! --Always keep gassing to minimum, No more than 15 mins Equalising-Charge.... EDTA and PROPER Pulse Desulphation is the way to go, with a very LOW rate of charge, so as NOT to rot out whats left of positive grids......... Pulse Desulphation based on a good Pulser design, not some p-o-s cheap combined charger thing....
I use locally available chemicals and my battery is 17 year old. 12.4V to 13.xV, depending on how recently it was charged. My gut guess is the capacity is 150 CCA from the original 600 CCA. The car cranks but doesn't start easily in the depth of December cold. But, it does start.
That's necessary to flake away the non bonded material, to expose the bonded material to the electrolyte. That will increase the performance of the battery by reducing the equivalent series resistance of the cells. You're right though, repeated overcharging of a battery will shorten its service life.
The real problem with batteries seems to be the built in obsolescence of their physical properties. More space at the bottom for sludge is a no brainier. In the 1920s batteries were REPAIRED... right down to flattening out plates that have been warped by heat stress. I have a book from the period that not only shows you how, it shows you how to make commercial batteries from scratch, complete with workshop set up. Just add modern safety devices and presto... goodbye 2 year batteries. Goodbye international trade in used batteries. Hello local jobs. You may scoff at the economics. But it does not explain how a one or two person local bakery can still exist in an age of bread factories supplying supermarkets.
The solution works at Charge process decomposing PbSO4 by receiving electron in electrochemistry. For large batteries like UPS, Forklift, it's so hard to create Charge/Discharge process, so we inject the solution and keep using the battery for 2 to 4 weeks, then specific gravity will come up, also voltage condition as well.
Mr. Pogsit Pogapo
Our solution can put Salfation (crystallized PbSO4) back to the electrochemical cycle but physical damages.
We have customers using lead batteries over 12 years with their own well maintenance.
"1.25v is not good enough, each cell needs to be 2v"
The measure is not voltage. it is the Specific Gravity of the electrolyte expressed as mmHg (millimetres of mercury). The mmHg of a fully charged battery is 1250 which is what the hydrometer recorded. Note, the instrument used is made to display the condition of a lead acid battery and anything in the "Green Zone" is to be considered Good! Peter.
It's called specific gravity. its measuring how many times heaver the acid is than distilled water. A standby battery is usually more dilute than a car battery, They are less interested in peak performance, and more interested in calendar life. The zones on that hydrometer are based on a high performance starting battery, so it won't reach green on a standby battery.
I think batteries die when the lead oxide comes off the cathode and the lead migrates to the anode and the oxygen from the lead oxide bubbles out of the battery. Lots of lead oxide winds up on the bottom of the battery too, and you can't get it back on the cathode, ever.
Hello Abcde, you are right. That makes difficulty on our product. Many people mixed up Physical damage and Chemical damage as PbSO4.
We can put Sulfation back to the cycle but lead plates damage.
That battery was in a decent condition to begin with. A well used bat will be ten times as worse. Proof test on that!
A reading of 1.1 is a completely flat battery. A well used but not physically damaged battery cannot be 10x worse than completely flat. Chemicals cannot be used to repair a physically damaged battery. But it can be used for desulfation. The confusing part is the battery manufacture would treat sulfation as damage.
It ate away the sulfation from the top down, but still quite a bit remaining towards the bottom. Most batteries are sealed so I can't see this being something you can use except on older batteries that have removable cell tops.
Ebay still has new batteries with caps. Also if you already have an old battery, you can keep it going for quite a while. I have a 17 year old battery, and it is still limping along with occasional chemical injection. I use locally available chemicals.
I have a suspicion that sealed LA batteries are no different than ones with caps. They are just easier to transport and do not need filling before selling. And as they fail sooner they can sell more. But of course they still can actually be topped up. You have to cut a hole in the top,of each cell, then reseal it.
@@markthomasson5077 Many of the "sealed" batteries have plugs in each cell, they just aren't made to be easy and readily accessible. My sealed Interstate deep cycle batteries have six plugs, one over each cell, under the label. They are flush and hard to see unless you're looking for them but they come out an allow servicing.
Hmm, just Epsom salt in destilled Water and then pulschargingt the battery with a JouleThief or Bedini circuit works also. You probably added also nanographite or graphene or just carbon black for better conductivity, so the inner resistance (impedance) of the battery is getting lower..But it is generating also lots of HHO gas during charging, so could also be used as an HHO gas generator ! ;)
We are luckily getting repeats in overseas. Thank you to all.
what is this? is it for sale? some info would be nice....videos with words tend to be best
All telecom batteries are like that as well. Some are round and some are clear but none of them are that small. Least not in the central office battery banks. Each of their 2 volt batteries takes a fork truck to lift and take up more space then most peoples living rooms. They can average about 10,000 amps or more depending on office size. Their strings all run at -48 volts.
I like the fact that the cell links are on top so you can check the voltage of individual cells. I also like to voltage balance cells when batteries are floating on the line, when in standby. The clear case is nice, because you can actually see the plates and current collectors. I'm trying to find Deep Cycle versions of this battery. Standby batteries have long calendar lives, but won't last long in cyclic use. I want them for solar.
Hello, Can you supply a few links for purchasing batteries with clear cases. I'd be very grateful.
John
Motorcycle batteries often have transparent cases like this, it's difficult to know which manufacturers though.
*****
Thanks, Yes some of these are made to be like the old batteries from the 50's-60's but they're hard to find also. I have two and can't remember anymore where they came from.
Thanks
John
Component:
Ionic functional water (Solvated-electron water solution) CAS 7732-18-5
Carbon black CAS 1333-86-4
Polymer (PVA) CAS 9002-89-5
EcoGlobe21 what is these chemicals
are they additives help to remove sulfation
let me know about procurement details in india tellvarad@gmail.com
That's great that it improved the specific gravity of the electrolyte, but I would have liked to see the data on discharge. Was there an improvement in the amp hours each time it was discharged? That's the bottom line, that it has the capacity to serve its purpose. That's a beautiful battery to look at. It has the cell links on top, so it can be voltage balanced, and so you can measure the voltage of individual cells. It's also easy to see the water level, and inspect the plates. What brand is that, and do they make those in deep cycle? That's the battery I'm looking for for my solar install. A standby battery won't last long in cyclic use like that. I can't find them anywhere.
This solution works during charge proces, so we normally inject it to the battery ready to replace or brand new for prevention of Sulfation. You can find more info on www.ecoglobe21.com
Epsom salt diluted on distilled water, some natural (maybe food) coloring dye and 10 times the price... clever!
That is just a myth, it doesn't actually work. 90% of lead battery failures are due to sulfating build up on the lead plates effectively lowering its life span. This is just natural process, it prevent this you need to desulfate your cars battery every once in a while; either with a battery pulse device or a battery desulfator.
The chemical I use is white. No idea what it is, but works on my 17 year old BMW battery.
That's great and all but what about the voltage?
The voltage would be correct if the battery is not physically damaged, such as when the plates fall apart from ageing. The hydrometer measures the capacity at the correct voltage. 1.225 is about 80% of the new battery capacity. He did better at 1.25. A new battery is 1.28+.
Reminds me of The Walking Dead. Zombie batteries walking around at 1/10th the speed
How did you prepare a cutaway for the battery like that? I would like to do some tests on batteries where I can see what the results are as I go. Any advice?
Saludos,
1° Cual es la corriente realizas la carga ?
2° Cuan es la corriente de descarga ?
3° Que es el compuesto que aplicas para desulfatar las celdas?
german valenzuela hola la carga la realizan en modo equalizacion a 8 voltios por eso hay gasificacion para bateria de 6 volt con una corriente maxima de un decimo de la capacidad nominal de la bateria y el liquido parece q es polvo muy fino de carbon mineral para bajar la resistencia interna por consiguiente mejorar la conductividad entre placa positiva y negativa saludos.
What is the formula? if you are not willing to say then why did you post the video?
He showed the formula on a screen grab, but only briefly. Next time you watch the video, you need to pause it. It's not up long enough to study it.
Very nice.Where do I get this product.I have lived off grid for 20+ years and have been waiting for something like this.Great job.
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Super-Desulfation_110401443.html
I'm not sure but I did some checking on e-sol solution and I think you can get It here
Why didnt you fill the tube the same the second time?
The solution treatment will be available in India soon.
let me know from where a sample of same can be procured in india
hi delaine serget
what do you mean my dont get what u said. did you try and not satified?
Search for batteries for ham radio. repeaters or broadcast stations. A lot of radio stations have those nice clear batteries.
What the heck is that desulfation stuff? How do we know it wasn't just acid? That would make the specific gravity increase.
Because acid would make the SG increase the first time and without charging
The chemical "melts" the sulfation allowing some plate surface to be opened again for charging and discharging. Adding acid will be no use because it is the acid that created sulfation in the first place. When acid is converted to lead sulfate, electrical energy is released for powering your car. When electrical energy is applies to lead sulfate, the sulfate changes back to acid. This process is not 100% efficient. So each cycle of charge/discharge leaves more and more of the sulfate not converted back to acid. Eventually all the plates are completely covered by lead sulfate and cannot function any more.
How to prepare lead dioxide (pbo2) ?
It is not Chemical. The solution contains, Solvated Electron water with Carbon Black and EVA polymer. The point is an alternative way to deliver electron to Sulfation.
so the battery is still stuffed as the number should be 128
1.225 is 80% charge - 80% of the original new battery capacity. 1.25 is not stuffed. It's just not new battery like. If I had 1.25, I'd be laughing. I only get 1.225 after a full charge.
was the battery found dead the next day?
Yes, it was the butler in the library with a candlestick. We know it was murder by the look on the corpses face.
So, what common chemical is "the secret additive"? Epsom salts? Whatever it is and if you're selling it, I'll bet that you don't reveal what it is because you're selling it at many times the price of stuff from a chemical supply house.
name product plis
Where can i get a clear battery
The battery brand is furukawa battery
Skip to the last 30 seconds to see the results of adding a 20cc of Solvated-Electron solution whatever that is.
Hmm--You're gassing that batt WAY Too Hard!
All yer gonna do, doing that is Rot out the positive-plates (Oxygen decomposition of the lead grid structure into lead peroxide) leaving grid weak, deformed/buckled and or broken!
--Always keep gassing to minimum, No more than 15 mins Equalising-Charge....
EDTA and PROPER Pulse Desulphation is the way to go, with a very LOW rate of charge, so as NOT to rot out whats left of positive grids.........
Pulse Desulphation based on a good Pulser design, not some p-o-s cheap combined charger thing....
How long of life span did you achieve?And what voltage difference from oem specs does it obtain?
Go away from lead acid, and take a look at nickel iron battery, it will blow you mind ;-)
I use locally available chemicals and my battery is 17 year old. 12.4V to 13.xV, depending on how recently it was charged. My gut guess is the capacity is 150 CCA from the original 600 CCA. The car cranks but doesn't start easily in the depth of December cold. But, it does start.
cool
Whats with the fuckin opera, oddest music choice ever...-.-
good demonstration tho
DragonsREpic I really agree...
Looks like your using too much power to charge / recharge the battery and actually causing electrolysis.
Hi! I need to restore a dead forklift battery (36V), What should I do, it only reads 13 volts and is sulfated around it..
Get a BatteryMINDer 36271
over amping a battery in short burst is one way to remove the led-sulfate build up causing the poor performance
+dfissell you mean short burrs of high current
That's necessary to flake away the non bonded material, to expose the bonded material to the electrolyte. That will increase the performance of the battery by reducing the equivalent series resistance of the cells. You're right though, repeated overcharging of a battery will shorten its service life.
What a chemical
dont get what u said
Gwen Landry mas raro
The real problem with batteries seems to be the built in obsolescence of their physical properties. More space at the bottom for sludge is a no brainier. In the 1920s batteries were REPAIRED... right down to flattening out plates that have been warped by heat stress.
I have a book from the period that not only shows you how, it shows you how to make commercial batteries from scratch, complete with workshop set up. Just add modern safety devices and presto... goodbye 2 year batteries. Goodbye international trade in used batteries. Hello local jobs.
You may scoff at the economics. But it does not explain how a one or two person local bakery can still exist in an age of bread factories supplying supermarkets.
What is the book title sir?
I'm curious to the title as well. I would love to read that book!
Where can I buy the solution for the battery?
+Gilbert Roman
Pls contact through www.ecoglobe21.com
Thank you.
WASTE OF TIME INDEED
DEAD NEVER COME BACK TO LIFE.....
And I Am the Legend :D
I saw Jon Snow
All are a fucking hoax to get hits and make money.
Hoax.