The difference here is how THIS Arceus is just ranting about how you're the very special chosen one, and it's just a stand-in for a JudeoChristian God, missing the point of Arceus. Meanwhile his set-up in Legends was basically: "Welp, space-time's fucked. Hey you, child. Figure that shit out? K thanx."
It wasn't even winning by default, at least on PokeCommunity at that time Dark Rising was continuously getting compared unfavorably to Ruby Destiny, Shiny Gold, and Naranja, and Naranja was INCOMPLETE to boot. Pretty sure that Brown and the then-incomplete Prism were also getting recommended more, and then there was Light Platinum, the Sienna beta, one of the Shiny Gold overhauls (was it Sigma?)... Oh, and Pokemon Super Eevee came out around that time but that was an RPG maker game.
@@Ayahuasca98 That would be Aten i believe? In this case it's more likely to be the yu-gi-oh reference considering the gym leader's sprite being modeled after Yugi. In the show, Yugi has the spirit of an ancient egyptian pharaoh reside within his body that he switches out with during duels. When in Yugi's body the spirit goes by Yami Yugi, but the pharaoh's real name is Atem (exactly the same as the gym leader). Atem himself is then named after Atum, the primordial/creator god in Egyptian polytheism. Again, thinking of Aten isn't a weird leap of logic, but it's just highly unlikely in this particular case
Something I discovered while analyzing the elite four when I cut the game open with hex tools. All the legendaries in those battles are buffed to a comical degree. None of them have a base stat total below 800 (So you understand that, the strongest non-form Pokémon aside from the 1v4 boss Eternamax Eternatus, is Arceus with 720 BST. Some funny bits about them as well is that Dark Rising Mewtwo has a higher BST than both forms of Mega-Mewtwo, Regigigas has Huge Power instead of Slow Start (And 180 attack which is the same as Mega-Rayquaza before Huge Power takes effect), and Lugia has more than 1000 BST, which is closer to Eternamax Eternatus, a fight designed to be a 1v4, than Mega-Rayquaza and Mega-Mewtwo, the three Pokémon with the higher BST. And the game expects you to beat all of them in a singular battle!
Brah I beat this hack when I was a kid can't be that hard ,and I actually thought people considered this one of the best hacks that's why I clicked this video very surprised 😂
I actually recall enjoying this tho... I never bothered to finish the prequel to the third game or play the third game. Though, I was like 15 so who the hell knows... The second game had interesting choices for sure, as in not so great for pacing and forced losses.
truly the My Immortal of pokemon fangames. my most vivid memory about this game is arguing about it with some guy (who turned out to be a groomer) in one of its playthroughs' comment sections at age 10
There's a fangame called Pokemon Edge Rising that pokes fun at the edgy hacks. The MC's mom gets eaten by a Charizard/Magikarp fusion AoT style (no really, they play the music), there's an edgy murderous Red, there's Maroon 5 for some reason... It's short, but it's really entertaining lmao
That one is really fun to play. The dev also made other two fangames, one currently in development. You should check them out, they are quite interesting.
Something incredible about Regigigas that's worth informing the uninformed of, actually: The thing has HUGE POWER for its ability. Not only does this mean it has no counterbalances to its ridiculously high stats unlike canon Regigigas being stuck with Slow Start, Huge Power effectively means that its already monstrous attack stat is DOUBLED, giving it some of the heaviest hitting offense in the entire hack.
Honestly, as it should be. That, or mold breaker. Poor regigigas should not have to suffer through slow start anymore. They gave sword dog an ability that boosts it's attack upon entering battle, for Arceus' sake.
@@just-linx8271 Wdym "As it should be"?? I get not wanting Regigigas to have such an awful nerf of an ability, but are you kidding me, huge power?? That's an ability that only really Pokémon with incredibly low and shitty stats get, like Azumarill, which mind you single-handedly made it a good Pokémon to use.
This was the game that broke Pikasprey to where he never finished it, in the Kaizo version at least. He also played Snakewood and stopped playing that after he beat the big bad and was at the beginning of the post game.
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts Yep. Dark Rising Kaizo is a doozy. It disables EVs and IVs for a Pokémon’s stat growth. The vitamins are also unusable except for selling. Now consider the fact that the trainers even in the early game use decently high level Pokémon, which ramps up as the game continues until they’re at the late 90s, AND, some of those trainers, most notably the end game, use LEGENDARIES, it’s no wonder Pikasprey just gave up before reaching the end of Dark Rising Kaizo.
@@GravityFaizI play Dark raising Kazio. I only remember everything having lum berry so sleep was useless and everything having earthquake so my Empoleon felt useless.
11:03 This reminds me of what speedrunner Carcinogen said about RE8 Village of Shadows difficulty (I think) Paraphrasing but: “You ask a child how to make a Mario game harder and they’ll say to put Bowser in every room”
radical red is fun, probably only because i play it in minimal grinding mode but past the first gym or two when you start to get a decent team going it becomes a lot easier
@@gengarguy8801almost, remember the fights against teams full of legendary pokemon, those that you as a player have not even seen at that point in the game. For real feels like the worst kind of artificial difficulty,almost like if everyone is tobias(the guy who is a deus ex to beat ash team in sinoh) in the later gyms. onward
@@algomaslejanoquiza3174 what hack are you talking about? i've only played RR out of those listed and they only have legendaries in E4 when the player has access to those themselves
I am genuinely in pure disbelief on how anyone could've remotely considered that Shadow Lugia to be a fair and balanced final boss. Literally a higher BST than fucking *Mega Rayquaza.*
Funny thing about dark rising is they only have dialogue for the boy avatar meaning if you choose the girl you get some unintentionally hilarious dialogue (like imagine some of the x and y Shauna scenes but with way more angst)
I was there when this was still being developed in pokecommunity, I was one of the beta testers. And besides the bugs, its really good for its time as most of the hacks that time was not even finished. My 13 year old self geniunely enjoyed this ROM hack
This was pokemon try-hard mode. It was meant for people who were too good at pokemon to find the regular games enjoyable due to being too easy. If you're not one of those... well.. you're not the target audience :D
While this game may be obnoxious, I have my own horror story with Pokemon Mind Crystal, a French ROM hack to HGSS with bullshit difficulty that doesn't allow you to use items, prevents switching in some cases, and the worst part, DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO HEAL OR SAVE BETWEEN ELITE FOUR BATTLES! It's essentially a marathon of fighting super-OP Elite Four opponents non-stop with no chance to heal or recover, with the team usually out-speeding you. Literally the only way I was able to beat it was by bringing in a Mewtwo with a Quiet nature and max Sp. Atk, and raising it up to Level 100 with Recover, Calm Mind, Psychic, and Signal Beam. And even with the most OP Pokemon to use, I still barely managed to beat that damn game. There's hard, there's extreme, and then there's completely broken.
I think one of the underrated elements of Clover that you reminded me of when you said the bosses in this game use a lot of healing is just how few healing items Clover bosses use. It seems like they never do
I actually love this ROM hack mostly because of nostalgia. Nowadays, I think I would probably say: "yeah this game is horrible" but me having a soft spot for it, I can't say I hate it. Then again, I was about 14 or so years old when I discovered it? Who knows. Great review and also funny editing :D
2:20 So i was curious, and I decided to grind my gible to lvl 55 to try to win against tornadus (using save scumming) to see if you could see a secret cutscene like that against Red in Fire Red Rocket edition rom hack, but not only does no such scene exist, but beforr that battle you are UNABLE to evolve your gible regardless of level I won uskng savescumming as well as sand attack
In short pokemon dark rising forces you to do the following to enjoy the game: 1. Rare candy cheat to make you at least have an chance on most of the fights, but even the rare candy cheat doesn't solve the difficulty problem 2. Master ball cheat to make you capture an legendary because like you said in the video, the game forces you to use at least 1 legendary on your team, if you beat pokemon dark rising without legendaries then you must have played a lot of kaizo rom hacks 3. Knowledge of the fights is crucial to enjoy the game Bonus: if you are not that good at playing pokemon, then good luck on this hack, because this hack is not friendly for the casual players of an rom hack.
Huh, no wonder I remember liking this game (well not this one, but the origins one, never even got halfway through the others), I used both rare candies and master balls, and then I just balled for the fights
tbh you don't need to have played a lot of kaizo rom hacks to beat this game without legendaries. You just need to have bred/raised an OU or at least UU level competitive team before. If you've played comp, then you know the winning strategies and synergies. Set up your team like it's competitive and you'll have no issues, like get their EVs right, have a pivot mon, set up sweeper, hazard setter, etc.
@@thekamotodragon yep, another reason why pokemon dark rising sucks and you kinda pointed that out The thing i am talking about the need of knowledge of competitive pokemon because as an non-competitive player this game is so hard
Damn bro, this video is amazing. The editing isn't obnoxious and you seem like a genuinely funny guy. I'm currently playing through a Pokémon ROM hack called Pokémon Elite Redux that makes it so all Pokémon have 4 abilities. Elite Redux also has new Mega Evolutions (I won't spoil them) and they're all pretty good! I know Pokémon probably isn't the main focus of your channel, but I definitely recommend Elite Redux if you love a good challenge with no grinding being needed at all. I'll go ahead and list some things I think are great: - Candy Box (infinite rare candies that will push you to the level cap) - Infinite Repel - All TMs available from the start - Egg and Tutor moves learnable at any time - All strong held items available after talking to Nurse Joy - You can effortlessly EV train by putting points into a desired stat - You can change Natures at any time I'm currently playing on Easy Mode, so I'm not sure if these things change when attempting harder difficulties (I think the only thing that would change is the level cap)
This romhack holds a very special place in my heart. I remember this being the "hardest thing I ever played" when I was 12. Looking back, it was just very grindy. Still loved it though. Thank you for uploading this
the unfortunate consequence of playing the games but not watching the anime is that you pronounce all pokemon the way you would sound it out in your head. "bi-ble" "gi-ble"
Got this vid recommended and honestly very entertaining hope to see more from you. I remember playing dark rising but i got pissed off how much bs the game had that i never finished it.
I remember using Victini since you just get one and its Zen Headbutt had 100% flinch chance :) I always avoid legendaries and exploits, but this cheese felt very deserved *Look at me, I'M THE ANNOYING BOSS FIGHT NOW*
Really glad this showed up in recommended, I like how chill the editing style and vibe of the video is; and you're a pretty fair reviewer! I hope you make more vids in general 💪💪
One of my enduring memories of Dark Rising is getting stuck on a battle against Professor Ivan at the end of a cave. Rather I didn't get stuck against him in particular, but more the fact that it's another situation where you have to do 2 boss fights immediately after each other. So, I lost against the next fight, and then some the game is buggy as hell, everytime I'd make it back through the cave to try the second fight again, I'd be forced to figure against Professor Ivan despite his sprite not even being here anymore. And that just kept happening until I ran out of items, so I couldn't even heal before facing the second guy. I somehow got passed it, but it was definitely not my high point with the game.
No. Maybe some people don’t have the same knowledge as you and they just simply aren’t aware. Or maybe they don’t care and they feel that the hack should be judged on its own merits regardless of whether it was the first. Not everything is an opportunity to ‘tell off the plebs’ or whatever.
I'm subscribing. The editing and narration were very pleasant, I liked the jokes and if more Pokémon content is coming, I'd be glad to be here to see it when it comes
oh the pharaoh that dislikes cheating on kids card games and punishes people who cheat in those with his abilities to punish those souls (later revealed they also allow him to legally cheat)
Empathizing completly with unlisting videos that you feel ashamed of, great work in this gem Belev. Congrats on being able to put out there a solid video that made me laugh and, at the same time, was entertaining and instructive. Keep up the good work my friend!
Cool to see you making content on Pokémon ROM Hacks! If you plan on diving into fan games in the future for Pokémon, I wholeheartedly recommend Pokémon Rejuvenation. While it isn't finished yet and it is quite long, what it has now especially thanks to the recent 13.5 update is really fun and great in quality. Alternatively, its older sister game, Pokémon Reborn, is a properly finished package that is definitely better suited for review purposes, both are tough yet fun (and much more balanced in terms of how the challenge is intended) experiences.
The fact that this hack was my first time playing pokémon in my windows phone made the experience so hard,i remember it took 2 days to me beat the frilish on the "second" route!
@@supergamingwarriorgamerult4705 Add that to the list with Piloswine, Milotic, Vikavolt, and Raikou. Ampharos too, but that one doesn’t bother me. They pronounce it the way it should be pronounced. The correct version is too British.
4:36 Nah, I totally think it could work. You're just seeing what happens when it's told by someone whose brain isn't developed enough to actually tell it well, which understandably makes you hate life.
@@Noname-e9k7k maybe, I suppose final fantasy is famous for heavy story focused rpg writing, so I’m sure a shorter, well written version of this could work
Got this recommended to me last night on the UA-cam Switch app home page and I love your humour and the way you edit. That's a subscribe from me, boys.
The early 2010s, aka the "we make Pokemon fangames so obnoxiously difficult and tedius because the real Pokemon games are 'too easy'" era. I'm glad that the mindset has mostly died off on making boss rushes where each subsequent boss is 5 - 10 levels higher than the previous one, but the issue of "we're big boy Pokemon" still remains. I'd rather play through X and Y with Exp Share on with a team including Aegislash and the cover legendary a hundred times than PP stall a villain-specific mon once. And while I do enjoy difficulty, the only satisfying difficulty I think you could get in a Pokemon-like game is to improve the AI. Competitive Pokemon is fun (when you aren't sweating out your cheeks and running super-mega-hyper stall or going HO screens and clicking buttons), and the AI for trainers in Pokemon games fall way short of battling another player. So I'm waiting for a breakthrough in the fangame scene to come out where they could make it so AI trainers at least switch out whenever they could be in a more advantageous position. And then once they make it so the AI could occasionally guess if _you_ are going to switch out, then that's where the real fun begins (as long as they don't have 6 custom legendaries that are 50 levels higher than your Pokemon [it's before the third badge]).
And I mean proper 50/50 guessing, and not input reading. If they don't ever Flamethrower my Blastoise expecting a Skarmory to come in, then it also takes all the fun out of a battle.
people need to understand that all hyper-difficult games need complicated gameplay that allows for the ability to perfect the combat. in it's current state pokemon is not that, and forcing it just makes the game more grinding heavy. even with complicated A.I. the level gap would need to be slight to non-existent.
I remember playing this game and getting very far in, getting annoyed at grinding in a long session, saving in game but not savestates, talking to a trainer that gives you garbage dialogue infinitely, resetting, and the emulator not having my in game save work properly so that was the end of that Edit: This, the red shown at 9:30
Honestly I think this game has some redeeming qualities. 1. The starter choices are pretty awesome. Gible, Dratini and Bagon 2. The expanded pokedex is pretty cool and you can catch relevant pokemon in basically every area. 3. You get access to a legendary early if you want to use it. It's a unique experience to receive it so early. Helps keep the difficulty level manageable if you choose to use it. 4. Gym leaders have some neat teams, I thought the first gym was a nice wake up call but definitely beatable if you prepared for it. The water gym was a good fight and positioned well. And having boss pokemon like Entei or pikachu!!!! Definitely made for a unique battle dynamic. 5. There even if it's overbearing at times, the difficulty can be overcome if you know how to build a team. The champion, for example, can pretty easily be swept up by dragon dance scrafty if you set up. Certainly a flawed game but I can't say I didn't have fun.
It’s worth considering that each individual level matters less the higher your levels are. You gain stats at a relatively linear pace ( barring evs ) so a jump from level 5 to 15 is a much bigger jump then a jump from 89 to 99. It’s pretty normal to beat red in the jhoto games 20 to 30 levels under so I don’t necessarily see the a late game enemy being ten levels above you being too big a deal. Heck it’s normal in rom hacks to have some over level 100 mons in the post game at like level 120 so you aren’t able to bowl though everything. Brock having 10 levels higher early on is honestly a much bigger deal then later level jumps imo
I remember playing a version called dark Rising Kaizo, the only memories i have are the Tornadus fight, hacking to get an spiritomb and my dad hacking a Regigias, iirc i thini i got to like the 3 gym?
Ok the fact that this was made by a 12 year old is actually damn impressive and makes the hack really hard to hate
Nah lil bro gon get bullied, it is what it is
Scientists Adolf☠️
Nah.
Being made by 12 year old explains the legendary spam-
Hardly, this rom hack is on pair of garbage i and many more made in Rpg maker at similiar age.
Stupidly difficult for nothing but sadistic ego boost
The fact that Arceus opening actually became the official opening of a Pokémon game 😭
"Who's crazy now!"
The person who made the rom hack, probably.
My very first same tought
The difference here is how THIS Arceus is just ranting about how you're the very special chosen one, and it's just a stand-in for a JudeoChristian God, missing the point of Arceus.
Meanwhile his set-up in Legends was basically: "Welp, space-time's fucked. Hey you, child. Figure that shit out? K thanx."
@@CodeNameX001 bruh what😭
@@CodeNameX001 in the end it turns out to be Hoopa pretending to be Arceus making you help him take over the world
Dark Rising, called one of the best hacks in 2012, when Pokémon ROM hacks were few and far between, making it, by default, one of the best.
Woo, winning by default!
It wasn't even winning by default, at least on PokeCommunity at that time Dark Rising was continuously getting compared unfavorably to Ruby Destiny, Shiny Gold, and Naranja, and Naranja was INCOMPLETE to boot. Pretty sure that Brown and the then-incomplete Prism were also getting recommended more, and then there was Light Platinum, the Sienna beta, one of the Shiny Gold overhauls (was it Sigma?)... Oh, and Pokemon Super Eevee came out around that time but that was an RPG maker game.
We had snakewood
@@Cilenthemaster snakewood definitly beats this game because it's funnier.
That finally explains things.
The yugi gym leader is literally called Atem, so i guess they just decided that one of the gym leaders absolutely had to be a yu-gi-oh reference
But does he cheat rng to make it more accurate?
@@BoneWalker "Heart of the balls" just doesn't have the same ring to it does it
So sad I never saw it back then. I got stuck in the naval rock looking place and quit
No I think it could be a reference to the monotheistic Egyptian God
@@Ayahuasca98 That would be Aten i believe?
In this case it's more likely to be the yu-gi-oh reference considering the gym leader's sprite being modeled after Yugi.
In the show, Yugi has the spirit of an ancient egyptian pharaoh reside within his body that he switches out with during duels. When in Yugi's body the spirit goes by Yami Yugi, but the pharaoh's real name is Atem (exactly the same as the gym leader).
Atem himself is then named after Atum, the primordial/creator god in Egyptian polytheism.
Again, thinking of Aten isn't a weird leap of logic, but it's just highly unlikely in this particular case
Something I discovered while analyzing the elite four when I cut the game open with hex tools. All the legendaries in those battles are buffed to a comical degree. None of them have a base stat total below 800 (So you understand that, the strongest non-form Pokémon aside from the 1v4 boss Eternamax Eternatus, is Arceus with 720 BST. Some funny bits about them as well is that Dark Rising Mewtwo has a higher BST than both forms of Mega-Mewtwo, Regigigas has Huge Power instead of Slow Start (And 180 attack which is the same as Mega-Rayquaza before Huge Power takes effect), and Lugia has more than 1000 BST, which is closer to Eternamax Eternatus, a fight designed to be a 1v4, than Mega-Rayquaza and Mega-Mewtwo, the three Pokémon with the higher BST. And the game expects you to beat all of them in a singular battle!
I had to literally just grind with a quick claw destiny bond ghastly to out cheese the final battle
Brah I beat this hack when I was a kid can't be that hard ,and I actually thought people considered this one of the best hacks that's why I clicked this video very surprised 😂
@@Shyne282agreed. I quite enjoyed most if the series. The Digimon one was a bit odd though.
These stats in a players hands maybe. Not in ai hands. Very Killable. Though shadow lugia can give problems without parish song or destiny bond.
even if it's bad it's impressive a 12 year old made this and it adds a charm to it
Nah. Idgaf if a baby gerbil made it.
Game sucks.
Exactly
I actually recall enjoying this tho... I never bothered to finish the prequel to the third game or play the third game. Though, I was like 15 so who the hell knows... The second game had interesting choices for sure, as in not so great for pacing and forced losses.
Lot of commentators seemed to have enjoyed it
@@panh91 lotta 12 year olds out there
truly the My Immortal of pokemon fangames. my most vivid memory about this game is arguing about it with some guy (who turned out to be a groomer) in one of its playthroughs' comment sections at age 10
You CANNOT just tell us he's a groomer in passing without spilling the beans on the story that lead up to that point
@@kingyeetus5901 buddy just dropped that information and walked off
let me guess, Nappy?
I need to know the story
Dude just dropped a nuke in the comments and peaced out, what a legend.
There's a fangame called Pokemon Edge Rising that pokes fun at the edgy hacks. The MC's mom gets eaten by a Charizard/Magikarp fusion AoT style (no really, they play the music), there's an edgy murderous Red, there's Maroon 5 for some reason...
It's short, but it's really entertaining lmao
im at a paaaaayphone
It should make fun of Snakewood
@@doctorcardio1559tryeen tuuu caaallllll
That one is really fun to play. The dev also made other two fangames, one currently in development. You should check them out, they are quite interesting.
@@thementalorder1233 thanks for the heads up! might be a little harder to find with the Relic Castle shutdown, but I'll give it a good look!
Something incredible about Regigigas that's worth informing the uninformed of, actually: The thing has HUGE POWER for its ability. Not only does this mean it has no counterbalances to its ridiculously high stats unlike canon Regigigas being stuck with Slow Start, Huge Power effectively means that its already monstrous attack stat is DOUBLED, giving it some of the heaviest hitting offense in the entire hack.
Honestly, as it should be. That, or mold breaker. Poor regigigas should not have to suffer through slow start anymore. They gave sword dog an ability that boosts it's attack upon entering battle, for Arceus' sake.
Average sunday in r/stunfisk:
@@just-linx8271 Wdym "As it should be"?? I get not wanting Regigigas to have such an awful nerf of an ability, but are you kidding me, huge power??
That's an ability that only really Pokémon with incredibly low and shitty stats get, like Azumarill, which mind you single-handedly made it a good Pokémon to use.
@@misterbasileo the way I see it, Kyogre is surrounded
@@percygekkouga2151 Ice punch dusknoir
This was the game that broke Pikasprey to where he never finished it, in the Kaizo version at least. He also played Snakewood and stopped playing that after he beat the big bad and was at the beginning of the post game.
i don't blame him, the only reason i suffered through this one was for the purposes of this video lol
Wait there's an even harder version of this game?
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts Yep. Dark Rising Kaizo is a doozy. It disables EVs and IVs for a Pokémon’s stat growth. The vitamins are also unusable except for selling. Now consider the fact that the trainers even in the early game use decently high level Pokémon, which ramps up as the game continues until they’re at the late 90s, AND, some of those trainers, most notably the end game, use LEGENDARIES, it’s no wonder Pikasprey just gave up before reaching the end of Dark Rising Kaizo.
@@GravityFaiz lol that's crazy. I remember watching his Snakewood playthrough, but never did the Dark Rising one, I don't think.
@@GravityFaizI play Dark raising Kazio. I only remember everything having lum berry so sleep was useless and everything having earthquake so my Empoleon felt useless.
11:03 This reminds me of what speedrunner Carcinogen said about RE8 Village of Shadows difficulty (I think) Paraphrasing but: “You ask a child how to make a Mario game harder and they’ll say to put Bowser in every room”
in terms of difficulty, We now unfortunately have inclement emerald, radical red, run and bun, etc. Dark rising was the calm before the storm
I tried Radical Red...Never again :) now i stick to pokemon inbound, and exceeded
radical red is fun, probably only because i play it in minimal grinding mode but past the first gym or two when you start to get a decent team going it becomes a lot easier
The difference is those games are genuinely balanced
@@gengarguy8801almost, remember the fights against teams full of legendary pokemon, those that you as a player have not even seen at that point in the game.
For real feels like the worst kind of artificial difficulty,almost like if everyone is tobias(the guy who is a deus ex to beat ash team in sinoh) in the later gyms. onward
@@algomaslejanoquiza3174 what hack are you talking about? i've only played RR out of those listed and they only have legendaries in E4 when the player has access to those themselves
I am genuinely in pure disbelief on how anyone could've remotely considered that Shadow Lugia to be a fair and balanced final boss.
Literally a higher BST than fucking *Mega Rayquaza.*
Probably cause it was made by a 12 year old
@@FTW1230if a child shot you with a gun that is still murder/
Bro its a fair and balenced you are just not good I mean did you try pokemon rejuvenation the bosses there really gives you hard time
@@FTW1230I don’t care, it’s still shitty rom hack. That’s like saying “Oh Halo CE can be excused for having bad levels because it’s an old game”
@@HabitualThinkerare you deadass comparing making a fangame with an actual crime???
2:17 This "Lady Weatherbell" is so adorable and I don't know why! Literally just a random NPC.
Ikr
Funny thing about dark rising is they only have dialogue for the boy avatar meaning if you choose the girl you get some unintentionally hilarious dialogue (like imagine some of the x and y Shauna scenes but with way more angst)
What are you trying to say
Nothing it's just a funny oversight@@eightcoins4401
its like that for alot of rom hacks (victory fire and the others in the series, etc) in general lol
So the girl just... doesn't say anything?
@@PhantomChaos76 imagine a world when girls don't say anything? Peaceful.
I was there when this was still being developed in pokecommunity, I was one of the beta testers. And besides the bugs, its really good for its time as most of the hacks that time was not even finished. My 13 year old self geniunely enjoyed this ROM hack
Really? Wow!
Same I remember enjoying this and it’s sequel and being hyped for the third entry when I was a kid
@@vectorbarreiro4632Speaking of the 3rd entry, what happened? I remember playing an early demo a few years ago but that's it.
Same I liked it when I was 13. Though I'm a cheater. Rather than grinding I'd just open up a save editor, rare candy and then modify my IV values xD
Somehow pokemon fans confusing tedious grinding with actual challenge is super common even over age 12
That's why you see pokemon challenge videos where they just grind for hours and days
Sometimes people forget to include a fundamental part into their game to make it enjoyable:
The fun
This was pokemon try-hard mode. It was meant for people who were too good at pokemon to find the regular games enjoyable due to being too easy. If you're not one of those... well.. you're not the target audience :D
@@marhawkman303tf you mean with that 😂, you can make things difficult and fun
@@gardunogonzalezoctavioange869 Is it possible? yes? did THIS achieve that?
@@marhawkman303 nah
Dude, play the way you want, but don't bash others for not playing the way you're.@@marhawkman303
that last segment got me to subscribe, big ups for treating the hack respectfully
Fun fact. You can actually bypass the dude who stops you from leaving the first gym town He doesn’t see you if you’re as far away as possible
This is definitely something 12-year old me would make if I had the internet access and the passion as the creator
While this game may be obnoxious, I have my own horror story with Pokemon Mind Crystal, a French ROM hack to HGSS with bullshit difficulty that doesn't allow you to use items, prevents switching in some cases, and the worst part, DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO HEAL OR SAVE BETWEEN ELITE FOUR BATTLES! It's essentially a marathon of fighting super-OP Elite Four opponents non-stop with no chance to heal or recover, with the team usually out-speeding you. Literally the only way I was able to beat it was by bringing in a Mewtwo with a Quiet nature and max Sp. Atk, and raising it up to Level 100 with Recover, Calm Mind, Psychic, and Signal Beam. And even with the most OP Pokemon to use, I still barely managed to beat that damn game. There's hard, there's extreme, and then there's completely broken.
that just sounds like a hack specifically made for challenge runs over casual play throughs
0:02 I'm pretty sure that man is not a scientist....
He's obviously a painter.
@@bongcloudopening5404 You're not wrong.
He's an orator
In the game pokemon clover he is
I think one of the underrated elements of Clover that you reminded me of when you said the bosses in this game use a lot of healing is just how few healing items Clover bosses use. It seems like they never do
I actually love this ROM hack mostly because of nostalgia. Nowadays, I think I would probably say: "yeah this game is horrible" but me having a soft spot for it, I can't say I hate it. Then again, I was about 14 or so years old when I discovered it? Who knows.
Great review and also funny editing :D
considering everything the game from 13 years ago made by A 12 YEAR OLD is great some adults can't even imagine being this good
At making something obscenely hard?
@@houndrysmagolyteofhope4661At making something original that isn't the same old Quality of Life hack copy pasted everywhere in the romhacking scene.
Spamming level 100 legendaries with leftovers and full restores really isn't that impressive
wouldnt doubt they got help too
The one thing a 12 year old couldn’t do was balancing
This game is the perfect example in game design of "Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD do something"
Dark Chaos is definitely some shit that a 12 years old kid would come up.
Dude had fun back then.
2:20
So i was curious, and I decided to grind my gible to lvl 55 to try to win against tornadus (using save scumming) to see if you could see a secret cutscene like that against Red in Fire Red Rocket edition rom hack, but not only does no such scene exist, but beforr that battle you are UNABLE to evolve your gible regardless of level
I won uskng savescumming as well as sand attack
In short pokemon dark rising forces you to do the following to enjoy the game:
1. Rare candy cheat to make you at least have an chance on most of the fights, but even the rare candy cheat doesn't solve the difficulty problem
2. Master ball cheat to make you capture an legendary because like you said in the video, the game forces you to use at least 1 legendary on your team, if you beat pokemon dark rising without legendaries then you must have played a lot of kaizo rom hacks
3. Knowledge of the fights is crucial to enjoy the game
Bonus: if you are not that good at playing pokemon, then good luck on this hack, because this hack is not friendly for the casual players of an rom hack.
Huh, no wonder I remember liking this game (well not this one, but the origins one, never even got halfway through the others), I used both rare candies and master balls, and then I just balled for the fights
tbh you don't need to have played a lot of kaizo rom hacks to beat this game without legendaries. You just need to have bred/raised an OU or at least UU level competitive team before. If you've played comp, then you know the winning strategies and synergies. Set up your team like it's competitive and you'll have no issues, like get their EVs right, have a pivot mon, set up sweeper, hazard setter, etc.
@@thekamotodragon yep, another reason why pokemon dark rising sucks and you kinda pointed that out
The thing i am talking about the need of knowledge of competitive pokemon because as an non-competitive player this game is so hard
So basically it's radical red and exceed have baby but the baby has malnutrition?
Got it ROM hacks for pokemons are dark souls mode
Damn bro, this video is amazing. The editing isn't obnoxious and you seem like a genuinely funny guy.
I'm currently playing through a Pokémon ROM hack called Pokémon Elite Redux that makes it so all Pokémon have 4 abilities. Elite Redux also has new Mega Evolutions (I won't spoil them) and they're all pretty good! I know Pokémon probably isn't the main focus of your channel, but I definitely recommend Elite Redux if you love a good challenge with no grinding being needed at all.
I'll go ahead and list some things I think are great:
- Candy Box (infinite rare candies that will push you to the level cap)
- Infinite Repel
- All TMs available from the start
- Egg and Tutor moves learnable at any time
- All strong held items available after talking to Nurse Joy
- You can effortlessly EV train by putting points into a desired stat
- You can change Natures at any time
I'm currently playing on Easy Mode, so I'm not sure if these things change when attempting harder difficulties (I think the only thing that would change is the level cap)
i think i've heard of that one actually, it sounds pretty cool probably will play it in the future. glad you liked the video!
Your editing along with your monotone voice is killing me. I love it 😂😂
A man of culture: Also buys 99 hyper potions when I reach the elite four.
When I was 12 years old, I did indeed beat this game like 7-8 times
Would love to see the creator try to remaster this game
This romhack holds a very special place in my heart. I remember this being the "hardest thing I ever played" when I was 12. Looking back, it was just very grindy. Still loved it though. Thank you for uploading this
I'm sorry but the sheer disappointment i suffered when you called gible "guy-ble" almost ruined my day 0:56 💀. Good video tho.
the unfortunate consequence of playing the games but not watching the anime is that you pronounce all pokemon the way you would sound it out in your head. "bi-ble" "gi-ble"
@@belevsI think you just don't know how to read or something cause even without hearing it aloud I would never have thought to pronounce it that way
@@Idkwgo1I've never heard anyone say something other than Gible (Bible), but I don't immerse myself in Pokémon.
Pokemon names are not always accurate in the show, according to the official Pokedex. Pidgeot is supposed to be like pidgeon with a t, not pidgey-ot.
@@belevs It's a play on "nibble," like you're nibbling on something. Why else would its evolutions have "bite" and "chomp" in their names?
Bro said Guy Bull
Got this vid recommended and honestly very entertaining hope to see more from you. I remember playing dark rising but i got pissed off how much bs the game had that i never finished it.
In all my years, I've never heard Gible pronounced that way. It's pronounced like "nibble" as a pun on its nature to bite.
The way you say “Gible” takes years off my lifespan
even if i'm wrong i'm dying on this "gible" hill. they should spell it with two b's or else my tyranny won't end
@@belevs Well At that point it’s just determination. Evil, but respectable
@@belevs Gible is pronounced like you would nibble just replace the n with g
@@belevs hear me out... "jee-ble"
@@checkerhat327 "jai-bul"
I remember using Victini since you just get one and its Zen Headbutt had 100% flinch chance :)
I always avoid legendaries and exploits, but this cheese felt very deserved
*Look at me, I'M THE ANNOYING BOSS FIGHT NOW*
There's a glitch where you can repeat the Victini event effectively giving you infinite Vicitnis and Sacred Ashes
@@2spky5me That's so stupid and I am very unsurprised that's a thing
Really glad this showed up in recommended, I like how chill the editing style and vibe of the video is; and you're a pretty fair reviewer! I hope you make more vids in general 💪💪
One of my enduring memories of Dark Rising is getting stuck on a battle against Professor Ivan at the end of a cave. Rather I didn't get stuck against him in particular, but more the fact that it's another situation where you have to do 2 boss fights immediately after each other. So, I lost against the next fight, and then some the game is buggy as hell, everytime I'd make it back through the cave to try the second fight again, I'd be forced to figure against Professor Ivan despite his sprite not even being here anymore. And that just kept happening until I ran out of items, so I couldn't even heal before facing the second guy. I somehow got passed it, but it was definitely not my high point with the game.
He mentioned it lol.
Okay so, part 2 when?
Best/most underrated Pokémon rom hacks?
dark rising was my first rom hack i ever played. tried so hard to like it but damn that one cresellia
You tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end, it never really mattered
Back with another classic, worth the wait man
i know what you are
So does everybody forget that this was literally the FIRST hack to try and be its own thing, story and region wise?
Nah, they were other hacks that did this before, like pokemon Brown and many others that have become kinda lost media
Far from it. Several other hacks had already attempted the idea by 2011
@@PeruvianPotato yeah pokemon quartz had been released by then and other GBA hacks were already completed like brown
No. Maybe some people don’t have the same knowledge as you and they just simply aren’t aware. Or maybe they don’t care and they feel that the hack should be judged on its own merits regardless of whether it was the first. Not everything is an opportunity to ‘tell off the plebs’ or whatever.
No it isn't. There are other ones made even earlier and much better than Dark Rising
I'm subscribing. The editing and narration were very pleasant, I liked the jokes and if more Pokémon content is coming, I'd be glad to be here to see it when it comes
10:25 it's because Atem is the name of the Pharoah fused with Yugi. He's the guy that does the shadow game stuff in Yu Gi Oh
oh the pharaoh that dislikes cheating on kids card games and punishes people who cheat in those with his abilities to punish those souls (later revealed they also allow him to legally cheat)
Empathizing completly with unlisting videos that you feel ashamed of, great work in this gem Belev. Congrats on being able to put out there a solid video that made me laugh and, at the same time, was entertaining and instructive. Keep up the good work my friend!
This video is gonna blow up btw, good vid, subbing
pretty accurate prediction lol, can you tell me what the winning lottery ticket will be
@@belevs the thumbnail upgrade and if you keep uploading, and yeah I've seen it happen to a few people I've subbed to, usually challenge videos
This is truly the Dark Souls of ROM Hacks
Cool to see you making content on Pokémon ROM Hacks! If you plan on diving into fan games in the future for Pokémon, I wholeheartedly recommend Pokémon Rejuvenation. While it isn't finished yet and it is quite long, what it has now especially thanks to the recent 13.5 update is really fun and great in quality. Alternatively, its older sister game, Pokémon Reborn, is a properly finished package that is definitely better suited for review purposes, both are tough yet fun (and much more balanced in terms of how the challenge is intended) experiences.
I LOVE REJUVENATION OML
The Shadow Lugia reminded me of that mf Yveltal...but at least you can continue on if you don't beat it....
The fact that this hack was my first time playing pokémon in my windows phone made the experience so hard,i remember it took 2 days to me beat the frilish on the "second" route!
honestly for 2012 this is pretty solid
That plot reveal being that it was made by a literal kid is kinda wholesome ngl. Doesn't change the fact that its way too difficult to beat though.
A literal kid wow ngl
“Stand up to official releases” who’s gonna tell him how low that bar is
I love the chaotic editing style and the cats lol
Bro calling Gible Guy-ble? He's reminding of one of the only good jokes in that awful sequel to The Suite Life of Zack and Cody.
Am I the only one who actually thinks the suite life on deck was decent?
@@tolis19 I didn't know people hated suite life on deck until now
I mean he also called Bagon, Bag-on (which a ton of poke tubers seem to do even when that's not how it's pronounced)
@@supergamingwarriorgamerult4705 Add that to the list with Piloswine, Milotic, Vikavolt, and Raikou.
Ampharos too, but that one doesn’t bother me. They pronounce it the way it should be pronounced. The correct version is too British.
@@tolis19No idea what this guy's on about, Suite Life on Deck was great.
"Suckin at somethin is the first step to being kinda good at somethin" -Jake the dog
Ironically enough, a fan game called Phoenix Rising is one of the best fan games I've ever tried(although unfinished)
that game been in the making for so many years that at this point i doubt it ever gonna be made sadly
pretty sure it's been cancelled for like ~5 years now
Im playing it right now. What a coincidence
It's still in the works and is progressing well
Fire vid bro, glad I found ur channel 🤝
4:36 Nah, I totally think it could work. You're just seeing what happens when it's told by someone whose brain isn't developed enough to actually tell it well, which understandably makes you hate life.
@@Noname-e9k7k maybe, I suppose final fantasy is famous for heavy story focused rpg writing, so I’m sure a shorter, well written version of this could work
Have you guys even played order destroyed?
That was a freaking survival hack with similar difficulty to this game!
00:40 So Pokemon legends arceus ripped off dark rising?
Got this recommended to me last night on the UA-cam Switch app home page and I love your humour and the way you edit. That's a subscribe from me, boys.
HE'S BACK LESS GO
my fault homie i got lost in the woods, back to normal uploads now
@@belevs np bro we're just glad we got another belevs banger
7:10 you still have the option to disable animations
1:36 LMAO. Ive never seen Lermit hit the ground before
really entertaining & well-made video, you had me cracking up off the bat. keep it up man!
The early 2010s, aka the "we make Pokemon fangames so obnoxiously difficult and tedius because the real Pokemon games are 'too easy'" era.
I'm glad that the mindset has mostly died off on making boss rushes where each subsequent boss is 5 - 10 levels higher than the previous one, but the issue of "we're big boy Pokemon" still remains. I'd rather play through X and Y with Exp Share on with a team including Aegislash and the cover legendary a hundred times than PP stall a villain-specific mon once.
And while I do enjoy difficulty, the only satisfying difficulty I think you could get in a Pokemon-like game is to improve the AI. Competitive Pokemon is fun (when you aren't sweating out your cheeks and running super-mega-hyper stall or going HO screens and clicking buttons), and the AI for trainers in Pokemon games fall way short of battling another player. So I'm waiting for a breakthrough in the fangame scene to come out where they could make it so AI trainers at least switch out whenever they could be in a more advantageous position. And then once they make it so the AI could occasionally guess if _you_ are going to switch out, then that's where the real fun begins (as long as they don't have 6 custom legendaries that are 50 levels higher than your Pokemon [it's before the third badge]).
And I mean proper 50/50 guessing, and not input reading. If they don't ever Flamethrower my Blastoise expecting a Skarmory to come in, then it also takes all the fun out of a battle.
people need to understand that all hyper-difficult games need complicated gameplay that allows for the ability to perfect the combat. in it's current state pokemon is not that, and forcing it just makes the game more grinding heavy. even with complicated A.I. the level gap would need to be slight to non-existent.
young me would say the same about XnY. beat it and the looker quest dozens of times .
I really like that you tried to find the good in the game, including that it's an impressive endeavor from an earlier time and younger creator.
man, i thought it was snakewood
i first made my own romhack at 11, so seeing someone make it at 12 is impressive
"After spending hours searching reddit for a few minutes" - any redditor knows exactly what you mean. Killed this video. Easy new sub, keep 'em coming
Wait... Snakewood wasn't the most hated ROMhack?
EDIT: I am never trusting you in saying Gible's name ever again.
The purple lugia isnt based on that 3d pokemon game where u have to "rescue" corrupted pokemons ?
I remember playing this game and getting very far in, getting annoyed at grinding in a long session, saving in game but not savestates, talking to a trainer that gives you garbage dialogue infinitely, resetting, and the emulator not having my in game save work properly so that was the end of that
Edit: This, the red shown at 9:30
Dark chaos move lmao. Also congrats this video blew up your channel
Honestly I think this game has some redeeming qualities.
1. The starter choices are pretty awesome. Gible, Dratini and Bagon
2. The expanded pokedex is pretty cool and you can catch relevant pokemon in basically every area.
3. You get access to a legendary early if you want to use it. It's a unique experience to receive it so early. Helps keep the difficulty level manageable if you choose to use it.
4. Gym leaders have some neat teams, I thought the first gym was a nice wake up call but definitely beatable if you prepared for it. The water gym was a good fight and positioned well. And having boss pokemon like Entei or pikachu!!!! Definitely made for a unique battle dynamic.
5. There even if it's overbearing at times, the difficulty can be overcome if you know how to build a team. The champion, for example, can pretty easily be swept up by dragon dance scrafty if you set up.
Certainly a flawed game but I can't say I didn't have fun.
0:38
PROFESSOR OAK IS GETTING TO REAL WITH THESE QUESTIONS
It’s worth considering that each individual level matters less the higher your levels are. You gain stats at a relatively linear pace ( barring evs ) so a jump from level 5 to 15 is a much bigger jump then a jump from 89 to 99. It’s pretty normal to beat red in the jhoto games 20 to 30 levels under so I don’t necessarily see the a late game enemy being ten levels above you being too big a deal. Heck it’s normal in rom hacks to have some over level 100 mons in the post game at like level 120 so you aren’t able to bowl though everything. Brock having 10 levels higher early on is honestly a much bigger deal then later level jumps imo
Imagine being twelve, and you make a beloved, yet controversial ROM hack for a famous game. Honestly, respect the hustle.
I'm really surprised Pokémon Snakewood didn't come up, it's almost definitely worse than dark rising
it definitely came up, just maybe at 1/2 the frequency of dark rising. i think dark rising might be more played(?) which might explain that
10:16 I spent like a good five minutes laughing at this 😂
I have the amount of complaining in this video.
"Too much grass", "too much text", "too much battles". MF do you even enjoy playing games?
Immediate sub, you are very funny sir and are a rising star in this community!
I went from '2012 cringe haha' to 'oh wow it was made by a 12-year-old' to 'why the fyck is she still stuck in that phase'
“After countless hours of scrolling through Reddit for a few minutes” is SSS+ tier subtle joke I love it 😂😂😂
I'm just happy this was made by a normal 12 year old kid and not a weirdo grown person, who's weirdly obsessed with Pokemon a lil too much 💀
Also the person that made the mod is older than me. That's crazy
wierdo comment L ageism
12:04 "At this point in the game, I had nothing that was super effective against Psychic", he says, before showing his *level 100 Volcarona*
I actually have a physical release of Dark Rising. It's obviously a bootleg haha
@@khill64 I kinda want to get my hands on a copy now, even though I only have a gameboy/ds, how did you get yours
@@belevs I was at a gaming convention years ago and someone was selling a bunch of fully boxed bootleg romhacks
early rom-hack gen standard is, light platinum, glazed, gaia, dark rising
That random dude threatening to sacrifice your dad was clearly bluffing everyone knows the average pokemon trainer doesn't have a dad
You earned yourself a subscriber, friend. I like your unfiltered humor :)
I remember playing a version called dark Rising Kaizo, the only memories i have are the Tornadus fight, hacking to get an spiritomb and my dad hacking a Regigias, iirc i thini i got to like the 3 gym?
I've never had the patience to grind till level 100, but you did that in a rom hack that you don't like...
Mad respect
Learning about fan projects like this makes me happy
that atem's sprite looks like his fly was down and he had an unfortunate and revealing accident involving that.
When put into the context that this was literally the first hack made by someone who was 12 years old at the time, this is actually pretty awesome