Universalism and Free will | BCU Model | Lesson 6
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People do have a Freewill to make random decisions, and even the decisions were make can come due to God either giving wisdom or removing it. But nobody has a Freewill that can override God's will.
... are you saying that it is God's will for people to suffer, get sick, die, sin, commit murder, rape, genocide....
The idea of biblical freewill is decimated time and time again in the scriptures. A rudimentary reading of Ephesians ch. 1 leaves no room for free will in God's plan.
Absolutely not true. Ephesians speak of God's Plan of the ages, not "predestination". His Plan of the ages mandate that at the end all be reconciled, but does not deny free will nor human responsibility.
In love He predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will - Ephesians 1:5
@austinwillis6776 How blessed is God! And what a blessing he is! He’s the Father of our Master, Jesus Christ, and takes us to the high places of blessing in him. Long before he laid down earth’s foundations, he had us in mind, had settled on us as the focus of his love, to be made whole and holy by his love. Long, long ago he decided to adopt us into his family through Jesus Christ. (What pleasure he took in planning this!) He wanted us to enter into the celebration of his lavish gift-giving by the hand of his beloved Son.
Ephesians 1:3-6 MSG
bible.com/bible/97/eph.1.3-6.MSG
Why are you using The Message translation? You should use a verifiable translation, with a transparent system, such as Young’s Literal or the Concordant Literal. God is in complete control of his operation.
Why are you using The Message translation? You should use a verifiable translation, with a transparent system, such as Young’s Literal or the Concordant Literal. God is in complete control of his operation.
Okay there's an aspect about this they you are not seeing concerning man's Freewill. Man cannot accept or reject Jesus Christ unless it is the will of God that they come to him.
Jesus said No man cometh unto me unless the Father draw him, and those that are drawn to Christ are indeed the chosen of God. The called, have you seen that term? It is spoken often in the New testament and that simply means a person who from the foundation of the world were called into this grace. Not becuz God chose us and it's his will to destroy the rest of his creation, but this is where ultimate reconciliation falls into place. The called are from the foundations of the world given their calling, given justification and given grace as per Paul's teaching, and being called we are drawn to Christ and will abide with him, and this is not at all our choosing, it is his choosing as he calls us. The same is true for the rest of the world who are not called and drawn to Christ, is that their fault??? Jesus said that no man cometh unto me unless they are drawn by the Father. And so it is not their choosing nor their fault that they have not been chosen or drawn to Christ. All of this is being done according to the counsel of his own will and really has nothing to do with our so called decisions, good or bad. Look at Noah for example. Who found grace in the eyes of the Lord??? Noah found that grace and this is the only reason why Noah was saved, for by grace are ye saved!
What about the rest of the world that heard Noah's preaching, does it say anywhere that they also found this grace? Absolutely not!
Without the calling and grace of God no man can be saved and this is why the rest of the world perished.