Swap 4090 and Elgato. The bottom slot is still PCIe 4.0 x16 and the 4090 is PCIe 4.0 as well. See Mainboard Manual, Page 5. The card will overhang the PCIe bracket slot area, but since I do not see an obstacle there (25:01), it should be possible to fasten it with one screw at the back. Should hold although it misses the second screw. The area now resting below the slots can exhaust through the mesh in the case there. Plugs for HDAudio, USB 2.0, SYS_FAN, RGB and the like could prove to be a problem though, because the graphics card might block them now. :( UPDATE: The newer BIOS versions for this board allow bifurcation on all PCIe slots, so this is a moot point now. Just add the cards wherever they fit. :)
Secret 3rd option. Put the Elgato on an M.2 Oculink adapter for breakout. Then you can use a vertical style or Low Profile PCIe to NVMe adaptor. I'd have to look at the motherboard manual, but if the bottom x16 slot is from the CPU I see no problem with doing it that way. Day 400 of asking for a PIO motherboard that puts an x16 slot off the top of the motherboard (Parallel to it). Then all the other slots will have plenty of room. Even if there will only be room for 4 of them, none of them can block the GPU.
Since the case has plenty of room due to lack of radiators, I think it might be best to vertically mount the GPU in the front of the case and then use the bottom PCIe slot for the capture card. At least I think that's what I would try :)
I believe once you update the BIOS, you should be able to have the GPU in the top slot and the quad M.2 in the middle. Early BIOS only supported bifurcation on the top slot but according to Level1Techs, that was rectified in later BIOS releases.
@@paulshardware No problem. They titled the full review of the board 'Overclocking Threadripper 7000 on the TRX50 Aero D'. He shows the options in the BIOS around 15:55 in the video.
Regarding the PCIe slot clearance isues: As already mentioned, option one would be to use Lian Li's upgright GPU kit to mount the card over the fan tray at the front. This would also a) bypass the potential clearance issues with the tubes that you touched on, or b) use an aircooled GPU after all. Alternatively you could consider swapping the SSD AIC to a card with its own PLX-Chip to do the bifurcation itself without the need for support on the motherboard side. I think those can get pretty expensive and often only go to gen 3 speeds though...
It should allow him to get more done per hour. In fact... Upgrading your editor's rig could potentially give them fewer chances to chill while waiting for the system to complete a task
My dad's company is looking to upgrade their server for hardware simulation. He got a quote from Dell for a new one for 9k, but it has dual intel cpus both at 16 cores. I suggested he build one of these for half the cost, and he's told me (minus the gpu and crazy storage) to build this exact computer! Pretty cool opportunity.
Paul, for what it's worth the workaround for the network issue doesn't work anymore for Win 11. Just built a PC with an MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk Wifi motherboard and there was absolutely no way to get past the Windows 11 setup screen that requires a network. The keyboard, which worked the entire time, didn't work on that page to do Shift F10 to open the command prompt to enter the keywords to bypass the screen. Wifi didn't work. LAN didn't work. Even tethering to my phone didn't work. Microsoft was absolutely no help, as expected. The only thing that saved me was seeing deep within a sub-Reddit that a USB Wifi dongle worked. That's what saved me but it was 4 days of hair pulling. Once installed I downloaded the updated drivers for the motherboard and all is good. So, not sure if Microsoft is hip to the workaround of the network issue or what but just a heads up. That was my experience.
Thanks for the heads up, this is the first I've heard of the command prompt being blocked in the setup environment, if that's the case it really sucks.
@@paulshardware Maybe I was doing something wrong but the keyboard worked in the previous screens so I know for a fact it was good but there was absolutely no way to pull up that command prompt. Just an FYI in case others run into something similar where they can't see any network to get past that screen. Without your PC building videos I wouldn't have been able to build the thing at all. Thanks!!
I think you were doing something wrong because I just built mine less than a month ago and I was able to get around it. I think it was different than his build guide video, haven't got to it in this video yet, but a Google search for me around it and I was able to get the command prompt up and bypass it.
Awesomesauce video as always guys. I was voting for one epic long video. But actually watching it in 2 parts, makes me appreciate the time it takes to build Joe's new editing rig. My concern so far is the airflow on the CPU cooler. The M.2 adapter card blocks almost half the suction fan. I imagine by now we would know if it has had any issue in cooling. It's cool watching Joe put together his latest editing rig. And knowing how he separates the drives, like i try to do. Caffeinator out!
Put some capton tape on the 4090 where the capture card comes in contact with it and call it good, it’s durable, very resistant to heat and electrically insulating.
I was going to say the same thing, but I second this suggestion. You can buy capton is self adhesive tape or sheet form in various thincknesses/sizes and cut to size you would need for that 4k cap card.
For the pcie cards, i would replace the Aorus card with a HighPoint NVME RAID card. More expensive, but shows up as a single drive, uses all 16 lanes, and is even bootable. Then you could put the gpu in the top slot, NVME RAID in the second, and capture in the bottom with no issue.
What a beast of a machine, it’s going to stomp whatever task you throw at it! I definitely would have just removed the capture card & figure it out later! Congrats Joe!
Or a thin but firm plastic sheet to stop the risk of soldering points to go through the thermal pad and short out the Elgato board on the metal shroud of the GPU?
One idea I had about the capture card issue was one of those Z shaped x16 offset adapters. The bottom part plugs into the board slot moving the connecter down a slot on the case giving you space away from the GPU. Or get 2 90 degree adapters to make your own offset. Or a different mobo that works better with the parts you have lol
I wouldn't put an Enermax PSU or a brand like Montech in a $10,000 build I would probably go with Seasonic as my first choice and at least 10 other brands before I went with Enermax lol. I also probably would have went with the 011 dynamic evo XL or Phanteks NV7 or like the H9 Flow for more radiator support lol. But that's the beautiful thing about hardware it's all subjective.
Hi Paul. That's one fantastic employee Christmas Bonus. Say, that desk pad looks similar to the one I found in my Christmas stocking. My wife needed to remember where she bought it.
first all dont use AIOs when you go for watercooling. Secondly never ever buy a cpu block with a pump inside. Pump should run seperatly. I have a system which runs since 2 years without problem and prior system did run 5 years before I exchanged it. Maintenance as with fan setups is important as well
Any comments or updates, after the angled adapter recall, regarding 4090s and the 12 VH power? Or does that just solidify your view of wanting to make sure you can go direct cable from PSU to GPU?
I finished my 2nd PC build last January. I have $5,895.00 invested in this Intel system. Parts list: Segotep Pheonix T-1 E-ATX case; Seasonic Prime 80+ Platinum 1,300 watt PSU; Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master MB; Intel Raptor Lake Core i9-13900k CPU; Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX-3090 Xtreme GPU; 128 GIG kit of G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR-5 6400Mhz RAM; 3-Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 Nvme SSDs(1 for programs, 1 for files, 1 for system backup); Corsair H150i 360mm radiator AIO cooler; 3-Corsair ML-140 RGB Elite case fans; Acer Predator X38 38" curved monitor; Samsung SE-S184 external DVD burner; Logitech MK875 wireless keyboard and mouse; Windows 11Pro OS. At 66 years old, I am pretty proud of this build project. Can't really justify the money spent, but it sure was fun to build.
Just put insulating tape on the back of the capture card., and shift the mounting screws slightly. I'd put the AIO toward the top, with another intake below, and an exhaust out the back.
Look.... I got to build my first PC this year, and I made a monster. Honestly, I made the decision to go with a 4080 over a 4090 for electricity costs through the year, and thought that that was the only compromise that could've made the build better. Boy, was I wrong.
What would *I* do in that situation? I think I'd be sweating so profusely that I'd faint trying to slot anything in. (I've never built a PC yet but I am moving, slowly towards getting all the parts. A build like this, to me, is so far beyond. It's nice to live vicariously through you guys to see what it's like. Okay, gonna go watch Part 2 now!
@Paul, disconnect the tower power and reset switch from the motherboard. Then use a connect/disconnect a jumper on the power motherboard pins. I have seen a bad tower power switch fail and a stuck reset switch prevent a motherboard from powering up.
I have a soundblaster z right below my msi geforce 970 with a normal cooler. Actually it is blocking one of the two fans on the gpu. I’ve had this configuration for like around six years, and everything has been fine. Don’t worry too much about the capture card, it will be fine, especially with the blower style cooler on the card!
@@ghostrideralex11 Yeah, it's cheaper. You can even get it at the Dollar Tree. But if you're building an $8,000+ system, I think you can splurge a couple extra dollars for Kapton tape. :D
From what you are doing it Already shows the the Vision is not the case for top Exhaust and you need the Evo. LOL Paul's mod mat Add the 4k capture card and wedge a thermal pad between and add 2 fans to the bottom/ RGB.
My OCD got triggered when the main processor chip was put into the motherboard. Even though you will never see the processor, it would be upside down when the motherboard is installed into the case. Congrats on your new system.
I had a bit of an issue in the Fractal Define 7 with the bottom slot where the modules would catch on the case when inserting (Giggidy) them into my X520 NIC, so I just used a riser cable and slotted it vertically and that resolved my problem. This solution for that Lian Li case would mean either getting a new case or dremel time.
How do you know which drive is which after the install and drive assignment? I've had trouble in the past (it's been a while) with the first boot not assigning drive letters they way I wanted so I only install the drive I want the boot drive to be until the OS is installed. Maybe this isn't a thing anymore?
I get that bug in my brain with everything!!! Not that it will happen, but does Joe get this if he leaves??? HAHA Best is the creativity to figure out how to troubleshoot the little things that most do not consider!
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
forgive me if this is a stupid question and follow up questions, but why not use an AIO for the CPU? Would an AIO not be more efficient? Or does the Threadripper not get warm enough to justify an extra radiator in the case? Or is the current CPU cooler just that efficient to not justify using an AIO?
Just checked the BIOS setup guide for the motherboard. In page 14, it says that all 3 PCI-e slots have bifurcation options. PCIEX16_1 Bifurcation Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_1 slot is divided. PCIEX16_2 Bifurcation Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_2 slot is divided. PCIEX16_3 Bifurcation Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_3 slot is divided.
9:27 OS on a RAID1, data and applications on a RAID0. You have enough drives to make 4 stripes at 14Gbps each. RAID0 is volatile and no RAID configuration is a backup.
I think that I would be inclined to use racket grip tape on the back of that capture card. Any sharp solder points might poke through insulation or Kapton tape. Might dampen any vibrations between the cards as well.
I have a question: With all these parts from different manufacturers, many of them might require driver installs, like for those ssds to install (if necessary) and update their firmwares. Having these many variety of parts in a system and for each one of them having their own softwares to manage and update firmware, wouldn't this scenario introduce and lot of bloat in the system? These softwares claiming to keep that specific component in "tip-top" condition for "security" and "stuff", constantly running in the background would slow the system down for no reason, right? How do you tackle this issue and any way to manage it all?
Use some cheap electric tape to separate the two cards. By the time the PC is obsolete the glue on the tape will no longer be sticky and the tape will fall off on it's own when the two cards are removed but will protect the capture card until then.
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots. Thus they can now flip the SSDs and GPU to solve the problem.
Paul ... The first expansion card was an NVME card . You will notice that it is thinner than the GPU ... much like the capture card . Glad you had some competent help while sipping on your ale . LoL !!
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
See if Lian Li has a side GPU mount for that case and use a PCIE Riser card for the graphic card or capture card. If that doesn't work, maybe teflon tape the back of that capture card to prevent any shorts.
At 16:26 Paul says he does not know why the memory has a bump. Isn't that the DDR5 memory controller? I would have thought he would know that. Update as another commenter pointer out it is the Regret Clock Driver
Hey Paul, I was just showing my sister this build as I've just built my system in the white Vision case and it reminded me that my case did NOT have the two silicon covers included, for use when the motherboard is used in the lower position, looking around the internet, this seems to be a common 'oversight' of Lian Li's, perhaps you might be able to get some info/reason, from Lian Li, as to why so many people are reporting the same thing? As far as I know there is only one outlet for the Vision case here in the Uk, perhaps Lian Li could send a bag of these covers to them (OverclockersUK) so they might send them out to all who've bought one of these cases and tuck a pair in each Vision box for all future purchaser's.
Swapping the video card and M.2 card would give you one slot spacing between each. Still have plenty of SSDs attached directly to the motherboard that you don't need to give them the top PCIe slot too.
thanks to you and GamerNexus I build a good midrange pc. If I would have the money I would have loved to build a high end one too but at the moment not possible. Still I can play many of my games in ultra and thats what counts for me.
I still remember the epic Newegg build you did with a few others years ago….Thermaltake Level 10, Intel Extreme Edition CPU, 2x HD5870…was trying to find it the other day but had no luck.
PART 2 IS LIVE! ua-cam.com/video/rLlpEc2IMBk/v-deo.html
Cough cough, what's Joe's Girl's twitch name?
Swap 4090 and Elgato. The bottom slot is still PCIe 4.0 x16 and the 4090 is PCIe 4.0 as well. See Mainboard Manual, Page 5.
The card will overhang the PCIe bracket slot area, but since I do not see an obstacle there (25:01), it should be possible to fasten it with one screw at the back. Should hold although it misses the second screw. The area now resting below the slots can exhaust through the mesh in the case there.
Plugs for HDAudio, USB 2.0, SYS_FAN, RGB and the like could prove to be a problem though, because the graphics card might block them now. :(
UPDATE: The newer BIOS versions for this board allow bifurcation on all PCIe slots, so this is a moot point now. Just add the cards wherever they fit. :)
They need the top slot for the bifurcation of the expansion ssds. the bottom slot does not have it. they stated that in the video.
@@ChromeEagle86 the asus m.2 sled needs the bifrication, the elgatos just a capture card so quests point is valid
Secret 3rd option. Put the Elgato on an M.2 Oculink adapter for breakout. Then you can use a vertical style or Low Profile PCIe to NVMe adaptor.
I'd have to look at the motherboard manual, but if the bottom x16 slot is from the CPU I see no problem with doing it that way. Day 400 of asking for a PIO motherboard that puts an x16 slot off the top of the motherboard (Parallel to it). Then all the other slots will have plenty of room. Even if there will only be room for 4 of them, none of them can block the GPU.
@@ChromeEagle86I think he means GPU in the third x16 slot. Which should work? 🤷🏼♂️
They can put 4090 to 3rd slot. And elgato to 2nd. First slot will not change.
Joe, thanks for being awesome to Paul and us! ❤ Well deserved
I can't wait for part 2! It's fun watching you and Joe work together on a build.
On ya Joe. You are the friend that everyone would be very lucky to have.
Since the case has plenty of room due to lack of radiators, I think it might be best to vertically mount the GPU in the front of the case and then use the bottom PCIe slot for the capture card. At least I think that's what I would try :)
Then you might want to switch to an air-cooled GPU as well.
I believe once you update the BIOS, you should be able to have the GPU in the top slot and the quad M.2 in the middle. Early BIOS only supported bifurcation on the top slot but according to Level1Techs, that was rectified in later BIOS releases.
NVMe RTX M.2 card !
Thanks for the heads up on this! I will check out the update
@@paulshardware No problem. They titled the full review of the board 'Overclocking Threadripper 7000 on the TRX50 Aero D'. He shows the options in the BIOS around 15:55 in the video.
Regarding the PCIe slot clearance isues:
As already mentioned, option one would be to use Lian Li's upgright GPU kit to mount the card over the fan tray at the front.
This would also a) bypass the potential clearance issues with the tubes that you touched on, or b) use an aircooled GPU after all.
Alternatively you could consider swapping the SSD AIC to a card with its own PLX-Chip to do the bifurcation itself without the need for support on the motherboard side.
I think those can get pretty expensive and often only go to gen 3 speeds though...
Joe deserves every bit of this rig. Thanks for the great videos Joe! Este Vato!
It should allow him to get more done per hour. In fact... Upgrading your editor's rig could potentially give them fewer chances to chill while waiting for the system to complete a task
My dad's company is looking to upgrade their server for hardware simulation. He got a quote from Dell for a new one for 9k, but it has dual intel cpus both at 16 cores. I suggested he build one of these for half the cost, and he's told me (minus the gpu and crazy storage) to build this exact computer! Pretty cool opportunity.
Always good to see Paul and Joe working together on camera.
Pail I have been watching you for about 6 years now.
Really enjoy all your videos. You did Joe a real solid here. NIce work guys
Gorgeous case, a beast of a build!
Paul, for what it's worth the workaround for the network issue doesn't work anymore for Win 11. Just built a PC with an MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk Wifi motherboard and there was absolutely no way to get past the Windows 11 setup screen that requires a network. The keyboard, which worked the entire time, didn't work on that page to do Shift F10 to open the command prompt to enter the keywords to bypass the screen. Wifi didn't work. LAN didn't work. Even tethering to my phone didn't work. Microsoft was absolutely no help, as expected. The only thing that saved me was seeing deep within a sub-Reddit that a USB Wifi dongle worked. That's what saved me but it was 4 days of hair pulling. Once installed I downloaded the updated drivers for the motherboard and all is good. So, not sure if Microsoft is hip to the workaround of the network issue or what but just a heads up. That was my experience.
Thanks for the heads up, this is the first I've heard of the command prompt being blocked in the setup environment, if that's the case it really sucks.
@@paulshardware Maybe I was doing something wrong but the keyboard worked in the previous screens so I know for a fact it was good but there was absolutely no way to pull up that command prompt. Just an FYI in case others run into something similar where they can't see any network to get past that screen. Without your PC building videos I wouldn't have been able to build the thing at all. Thanks!!
I think you were doing something wrong because I just built mine less than a month ago and I was able to get around it. I think it was different than his build guide video, haven't got to it in this video yet, but a Google search for me around it and I was able to get the command prompt up and bypass it.
It’s Shift F10, not Control F10.
Sounds like a keyboard problem or something. I was able to bypass the setup a few days ago without any issue.
Great video part 1. Love the back and forth banter between you two
Awesomesauce video as always guys. I was voting for one epic long video. But actually watching it in 2 parts, makes me appreciate the time it takes to build Joe's new editing rig. My concern so far is the airflow on the CPU cooler. The M.2 adapter card blocks almost half the suction fan. I imagine by now we would know if it has had any issue in cooling.
It's cool watching Joe put together his latest editing rig. And knowing how he separates the drives, like i try to do.
Caffeinator out!
Put some capton tape on the 4090 where the capture card comes in contact with it and call it good, it’s durable, very resistant to heat and electrically insulating.
I was going to say the same thing, but I second this suggestion. You can buy capton is self adhesive tape or sheet form in various thincknesses/sizes and cut to size you would need for that 4k cap card.
For the pcie cards, i would replace the Aorus card with a HighPoint NVME RAID card. More expensive, but shows up as a single drive, uses all 16 lanes, and is even bootable. Then you could put the gpu in the top slot, NVME RAID in the second, and capture in the bottom with no issue.
Joe specifically wants individual drives and not raid.
Insane SSD space! I need that for a NAS haha
What a beast of a machine, it’s going to stomp whatever task you throw at it! I definitely would have just removed the capture card & figure it out later! Congrats Joe!
Hard to build to 10K without going TR! Can't wait.
I would just put a large thermal pad sheet between the 2 and call it a day. Great build so far.
Or a thin but firm plastic sheet to stop the risk of soldering points to go through the thermal pad and short out the Elgato board on the metal shroud of the GPU?
Kapton tape is made for this
For the GPU, just use some Kapton Tape
Nice build!
32T WOW! This is a monster Build for editing! Cool build!
Heck with this computer build. We want to see Joe's deleted scenes!
you need the MEMS NVMe drive only
Insulation shielding sheet on the back of the capture card.
One idea I had about the capture card issue was one of those Z shaped x16 offset adapters. The bottom part plugs into the board slot moving the connecter down a slot on the case giving you space away from the GPU. Or get 2 90 degree adapters to make your own offset. Or a different mobo that works better with the parts you have lol
19:55 LMAO HAhahahahahha freaking PAUL
the build looks great, cograts joe
I wouldn't put an Enermax PSU or a brand like Montech in a $10,000 build I would probably go with Seasonic as my first choice and at least 10 other brands before I went with Enermax lol. I also probably would have went with the 011 dynamic evo XL or Phanteks NV7 or like the H9 Flow for more radiator support lol. But that's the beautiful thing about hardware it's all subjective.
Hi Paul. That's one fantastic employee Christmas Bonus. Say, that desk pad looks similar to the one I found in my Christmas stocking. My wife needed to remember where she bought it.
first all dont use AIOs when you go for watercooling. Secondly never ever buy a cpu block with a pump inside. Pump should run seperatly. I have a system which runs since 2 years without problem and prior system did run 5 years before I exchanged it. Maintenance as with fan setups is important as well
Any comments or updates, after the angled adapter recall, regarding 4090s and the 12 VH power? Or does that just solidify your view of wanting to make sure you can go direct cable from PSU to GPU?
I think Joe is a top man he always stands by Paul when he down and when he on his ups
You are correct, The allen wrench tip is a ball socket. Awesome P.C. :)
Lol...love you Joe!! Could you use a GPU Riser for that capture card, or am I being dumb?
Paul did a Frankenstein thing in part 2 for a fix
Ah yes, the infamous "Memes" drive...
I finished my 2nd PC build last January. I have $5,895.00 invested in this Intel system. Parts list: Segotep Pheonix T-1 E-ATX case; Seasonic Prime 80+ Platinum 1,300 watt PSU; Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master MB; Intel Raptor Lake Core i9-13900k CPU; Gigabyte Aorus GeForce RTX-3090 Xtreme GPU; 128 GIG kit of G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR-5 6400Mhz RAM; 3-Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 Nvme SSDs(1 for programs, 1 for files, 1 for system backup); Corsair H150i 360mm radiator AIO cooler; 3-Corsair ML-140 RGB Elite case fans; Acer Predator X38 38" curved monitor; Samsung SE-S184 external DVD burner; Logitech MK875 wireless keyboard and mouse; Windows 11Pro OS. At 66 years old, I am pretty proud of this build project. Can't really justify the money spent, but it sure was fun to build.
Just put insulating tape on the back of the capture card., and shift the mounting screws slightly.
I'd put the AIO toward the top, with another intake below, and an exhaust out the back.
Joe has been marinated for soo long in this channel and therefore he deserves a PC.
Look.... I got to build my first PC this year, and I made a monster. Honestly, I made the decision to go with a 4080 over a 4090 for electricity costs through the year, and thought that that was the only compromise that could've made the build better.
Boy, was I wrong.
What would *I* do in that situation? I think I'd be sweating so profusely that I'd faint trying to slot anything in. (I've never built a PC yet but I am moving, slowly towards getting all the parts. A build like this, to me, is so far beyond. It's nice to live vicariously through you guys to see what it's like. Okay, gonna go watch Part 2 now!
@Paul, disconnect the tower power and reset switch from the motherboard. Then use a connect/disconnect a jumper on the power motherboard pins. I have seen a bad tower power switch fail and a stuck reset switch prevent a motherboard from powering up.
Joe, I would be very very very very very very mad if the corners don't match.
I have been waiting for this build 🎉
I'd go with the easy route with the capture card, just put some tape on it so the hardware on top can't shortfuse.
32TB of sahlid Gen4 NVMe SSDs is wicked! It’s awesome to know Paul sets up Joe with sweet hardware to unleash his creativity 🤓
GOOD LUCK with that Enermax PSU. GOOD LUCK!!! - I hope you have insurance.
I have a soundblaster z right below my msi geforce 970 with a normal cooler. Actually it is blocking one of the two fans on the gpu. I’ve had this configuration for like around six years, and everything has been fine. Don’t worry too much about the capture card, it will be fine, especially with the blower style cooler on the card!
1:44 I want to know, what is too far!!!!!!
His Halloween tech news got age restricted lol not sure why
I'd just use electrical tape on the back of the capture card to prevent shorts. Alex did a similar fix for the PC vs Mac Pro video on the LTT Channel.
Kapton tape would be even better. It'll prevent shorts and it handles thermals better than electrical tape.
@@dividion8102 This. But electrical tape is cheaper 😂
@@ghostrideralex11 Yeah, it's cheaper. You can even get it at the Dollar Tree. But if you're building an $8,000+ system, I think you can splurge a couple extra dollars for Kapton tape. :D
People ask me when I tell them about my HDD space. What do you need with 18 TB of space!? They just don't know.
From what you are doing it Already shows the the Vision is not the case for top Exhaust and you need the Evo. LOL Paul's mod mat Add the 4k capture card and wedge a thermal pad between and add 2 fans to the bottom/ RGB.
My OCD got triggered when the main processor chip was put into the motherboard. Even though you will never see the processor, it would be upside down when the motherboard is installed into the case. Congrats on your new system.
This pc will be insane.
32 TERRABYTES!!! Great Scott
I had a bit of an issue in the Fractal Define 7 with the bottom slot where the modules would catch on the case when inserting (Giggidy) them into my X520 NIC, so I just used a riser cable and slotted it vertically and that resolved my problem. This solution for that Lian Li case would mean either getting a new case or dremel time.
see if you can throw that gpu AIO onto the exhaust spot in the back
Great video guys!! Paul you are awesome,.....What a great Boss you are...love you!!!
Joe Dropping the Mf'er without a second thought: Thumbs up.
How do you know which drive is which after the install and drive assignment? I've had trouble in the past (it's been a while) with the first boot not assigning drive letters they way I wanted so I only install the drive I want the boot drive to be until the OS is installed. Maybe this isn't a thing anymore?
Beautiful Editing Rig !!!
Damn thats a serious ass build.. Kickass video.. Keep em coming plz.
As a car guy with plenty of engine rebuilds under my belt I think that little torque wrench was pretty cool 🔧💯
The black Noctua fans can totally be RGB, just do one corner red, another green, and a third one blue. I guess the 4th can be white to make it RGBW.
Are these lian li cases any good? Do they have air flow?
I get that bug in my brain with everything!!! Not that it will happen, but does Joe get this if he leaves??? HAHA Best is the creativity to figure out how to troubleshoot the little things that most do not consider!
That is so awesome
if the 4090 was in the top slot and the thin other cards were in the bottom two it would fit just fine
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
Sheesh! That cooler tower is HUGE!!!
I think it's actually larger than my dachshund's head!
looks good . maybe someday i can build the same specs❤ cant wait for part 2
forgive me if this is a stupid question and follow up questions, but why not use an AIO for the CPU? Would an AIO not be more efficient? Or does the Threadripper not get warm enough to justify an extra radiator in the case? Or is the current CPU cooler just that efficient to not justify using an AIO?
Pro Tipp: always do a test boot, before installing into the case
Just checked the BIOS setup guide for the motherboard. In page 14, it says that all 3 PCI-e slots have bifurcation options.
PCIEX16_1 Bifurcation
Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_1 slot is divided.
PCIEX16_2 Bifurcation
Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_2 slot is divided.
PCIEX16_3 Bifurcation
Allows you to determine how the bandwidth of the PCIEX16_3 slot is divided.
That will be a beast! Don't forget to insure it.
9:27 OS on a RAID1, data and applications on a RAID0. You have enough drives to make 4 stripes at 14Gbps each. RAID0 is volatile and no RAID configuration is a backup.
They can use RAID 5
Joe specifically wants to use the drives individually.
I think that I would be inclined to use racket grip tape on the back of that capture card. Any sharp solder points might poke through insulation or Kapton tape. Might dampen any vibrations between the cards as well.
Joes smile when paul says he goes too far. Lol
for your clearance problem, I would put the GPU in slot 1, and the ssds and capture card in slot 2 and 3 🤷♂
I have a question: With all these parts from different manufacturers, many of them might require driver installs, like for those ssds to install (if necessary) and update their firmwares. Having these many variety of parts in a system and for each one of them having their own softwares to manage and update firmware, wouldn't this scenario introduce and lot of bloat in the system? These softwares claiming to keep that specific component in "tip-top" condition for "security" and "stuff", constantly running in the background would slow the system down for no reason, right?
How do you tackle this issue and any way to manage it all?
Use some cheap electric tape to separate the two cards. By the time the PC is obsolete the glue on the tape will no longer be sticky and the tape will fall off on it's own when the two cards are removed but will protect the capture card until then.
Have you considered a vertical hount for the graphics card
Awesoome build happy for joe
with the capture card you might be able to 3d print a top cover for it to give some protection
$2k graphics card. That costs more than my first used car did.😅
Aw man, that Aero board looks so good ❤
Is it possible to mount the graphics card at the bottom slot and the capture card above?
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
Thus they can now flip the SSDs and GPU to solve the problem.
Paul ... The first expansion card was an NVME card . You will notice that it is thinner than the GPU ... much like the capture card . Glad you had some competent help while sipping on your ale . LoL !!
With the pre-release BIOS, this board originally only supported the bifurcation required by the quad SSD card in the top slot. Later BIOS revisions added it to all slots.
See if Lian Li has a side GPU mount for that case and use a PCIE Riser card for the graphic card or capture card. If that doesn't work, maybe teflon tape the back of that capture card to prevent any shorts.
Merry Christmas Paul & Joe
At 16:26 Paul says he does not know why the memory has a bump. Isn't that the DDR5 memory controller? I would have thought he would know that. Update as another commenter pointer out it is the Regret Clock Driver
Hey Paul, I was just showing my sister this build as I've just built my system in the white Vision case and it reminded me that my case did NOT have the two silicon covers included, for use when the motherboard is used in the lower position, looking around the internet, this seems to be a common 'oversight' of Lian Li's, perhaps you might be able to get some info/reason, from Lian Li, as to why so many people are reporting the same thing? As far as I know there is only one outlet for the Vision case here in the Uk, perhaps Lian Li could send a bag of these covers to them (OverclockersUK) so they might send them out to all who've bought one of these cases and tuck a pair in each Vision box for all future purchaser's.
Torques number 1 last, nice job!!
Electrical tape would be my go to, but you could use resin of some type as well. Not really high voltage so it just needs to be insulated..
Swapping the video card and M.2 card would give you one slot spacing between each. Still have plenty of SSDs attached directly to the motherboard that you don't need to give them the top PCIe slot too.
Is using an SSD for cache still valid at this point?
Slide a thin sheet of cardboard between the card cut to size, it will work and less time to do.
thanks to you and GamerNexus I build a good midrange pc. If I would have the money I would have loved to build a high end one too but at the moment not possible. Still I can play many of my games in ultra and thats what counts for me.
Is there room to install an 1/8" piece of Lexan on top of the Elgato card?
I still remember the epic Newegg build you did with a few others years ago….Thermaltake Level 10, Intel Extreme Edition CPU, 2x HD5870…was trying to find it the other day but had no luck.