@@buddhistforemost4286 There's also Ann from Persona 5, who embraces her sex appeal and stands up to a perverted volleyball coach and has an internal struggle with her self-confidence about her modeling career.
Honestly, I can never understand why people just get so triggered over something that has nothing to do with them. It's that very reason why they always are, and will be, the butt of the joke because they think that they're doing the world a favor, but it couldn't be that far from the truth.
If anything, ironically, they're being sexist towards women, because of their constant backwards false morality and "virtue signaling" and thinking they know what women want, when in fact, real feminists accept that men and women represent themselves and have their own lifestyles, and I'll gladly take a girl who wears revealing clothing, but is vulnerable enough to be relatable and is not just superficial eye candy. Instead of actually doing something productive, they just whine on Twitter, because of their own insecurities that they refuse to do anything about.
@@davidtimmer596 That just proves the point of how they just get so heated they get over something that's none of their business. And plus, I agree with you in taking a girl with revealing clothing and being vulnerable to be relatable.
My theory is simply the attention they get from it. There's nobody oppressing them so they need to find and show ppl things unreasonably contributing to this "oppression" that Is becoming less and less existent as time goes on and old wounds finally heal.
Milla Maxwell was one of my favorite protagonists of any JRPG. She was such a strong female character and could look sexy alongside her beliefs that shes a strong Goddess. I hate how these SJWs feel like characters can't be inspirational or strong, while also dressing sexy. They seem to be anti choice for these female characters.
Actually Velvet's clothes kinda reflect her state of mind. The tattered state signifies her broken condition while the red and black colours allude to how she has become a violent daemon who only wants revenge against Artorius. But it's not just her clothing that fits her character but that of the other characters in the game as well. Aside from the obvious main characters, I noticed a theme with the uniform of the Abbey high ups. The less the person values emotions, the less colors he has other than the standard white and gold. We see Artorius mostly lacking any other colour other than the white and gold while Teresa and Oscar have little more. Laphicet has more blue and a collar (can signify his enslavement) while Eleanor wears clothes that are mostly blue with little white. And finally with Shigure, his colors are a contrast as he merely fights for the Abbey because he feels like it and not because he is committed to its ideals. Coming back to Velvet, I consider her to be one of the best designed female characters in fictional media. Not only does she possess traits that make her an empowering female character but she also has a decent amount of other likeable traits as well. On top of that, she is not devoid of human flaws (unlike many so called characters made for women empowerment who end up being glorified Mary Sue's or just women merely acting like men) like how she is so obsessed with her revenge that she does not care much about anything else, leading to situations like when Phi was forced to open a portal to the leylines or how Innominat almost made her sink into despair. Overall a good character who is also quite human. And this in turn actually fits the themes of human morality in the story really well. While people criticise the slow starting part of the game, it actually serves the purpose of showing us how circumstances changed Velvet from a sweet top waifu material to someone akin to a genderbent Guts/Edmond Dantes. Then as the story progresses, we see her acting like a villain but still root for her because we know what she has been through. Then because of Phi, we do learn that her human side still remained within her and later Phi is able to help her. In the end, she kills Artorious not out of revenge motivated by pure hatred but because the Shepard had lost sight of his own self and ideals. I noticed that most of the "maxims" Artorius talks about don't exactly feel like maxims when you compare them with Immanuel Kant's philosophy (someone who Artorius seems to follow quite a bit as Kant considers actions driven by principles to be moral instead of those driven by emotions, which he considers irrational) as they have a definite condition/purpose behind them (such as controlling emotions IN ORDER TO control the tide of battle.). From what I read about the Maxim's Kant Spoke of, those maxims were supposed to be unconditional i.e general truth like do good. So we see that Arthur's maxims have conditions which contradicts Kant's definition. Except one. Don't despair. The same one Velvet reminds Artorius as she stabs him. In the end Arthur actually became more of an act utilitarian in his wish to create a peaceful world by removing emotions. That's some really amazing writing right there. Makes me glad I got this game and made me more interested in the Tales series. Hopefully we can see Velvet and Phi reunited in Crestoria. He deserves to be with her far more than Sieg deserves to be with Jeanne.
Also by kings and noble men.They were a symbol of wealth and status as they were heels that you could not work in.(because if you could afford them in the first place you had no business working)Women only started wearing them a little later in history.
Hyperdimension Neptunia's character design is by a young female artist named Tsunako; She doesn't shy away from suggestive depictions either, even though thats not the series' focus at all. Honestly i believe its a bit of a culture thing, along with easily offended idiots of another culture of course.
I'm sure someone would argue that Tsunako is a "victim" of the systemic misogyny in Japanese and anime culture, unable to make her own decisions, or at the very least is forced into designing as she does because it's popular and she wants work. This is reductive and insensitive. When you ignore people's personal preference and free will, you diminish their individuality and importance, essentially bullying them into feeling shame for liking what they like. "Feminists" (I use quotes because they are not REAL feminists, but I lack a better term, and SJW is too broad and amorphous of a label) want to enact change by normalizing this shame to the point that everything that makes THEM uncomfortable is expunged. Instead of just ignoring things they don't like and moving on, they see anything that doesn't fit into their purview as inextricable from whatever they deem wrong with the world, justifiably or not. What I find really aggravating though is they are clucking their tongues at the "moral degradation" in media from a completely different culture. Western culture and Japanese culture share a lot of similarities, but there are quite a few social nuances that are completely ignored when painting with such broad strokes.
@@poethewondercat7851 Its why I call it 3rd wave or 4th wave feminazis as it has an area of when things blew up and it was somewhere 2014 to 2020 or just present but more women are dropping out of feminism due to bad women on their side ironically.
There's blatant sexualization that deserves criticism, and hell even some certain parts of Berseria's protagonist are worth a critic (although very small bits, the overall design works wonders with her character). But, nowadays it seems many of this kind of critic go after characters meant to be attractive just because they're attractive AND women. How come they don't comment on Dante from Devil May Cry? In 3, he starts off shirtless and you can get that look as an alternate costume. He's always designed to be pretty as all hell (even in 5 when he's fairly old). He has charm, and it mixes well with his character. He's powerful, stylish, kinda of a goofy dick and, yes, sexy as all hell. And people acknowledge he's sexy. So many people are horny for Dante! The Berseria protagonist is a furious and brutal warrior with a ragged if somewhat sexy look. Dante is a much more blatantly teasing and arrogant character, that knows he's attractive and loves showing off. So, how come she is worse?
The more I hear these double standard spewing hypocrites talk about things like misogyny and the like the less I care and I honestly didn’t care much to begin with for their lunacy.
As a lady who primarily likes men, I love good design and feel sexy when playing Velvet or even using Shuten-Douji in Fgo. If SJW could stop speaking for me, that'd be great
Although I think Shuten's design is perfect for her and absolutely wonderful, I don't find it attractive. The voice tho? Forget the wine, I could get drunk on that.
High heels were originally a male thing. "The origin of high-heels can be traced back to 15th century Persia when soldiers wore them to help secure their feet in stirrups. Persian migrants brought the shoe trend to Europe, where male aristocrats wore them to appear taller and more formidable."
These SJW'S speak for themselves and they are just ridiculous. They think they speak for all women, but all of my female gamer friends feel empowered when playing with a badass hardcore female character. The sexier the better. I am yet to meet an actual woman that is offended in any way by characters like Velvet. I am so sick of SJW's complaining about inappropriate video games and or anime. They are trying to ruin the 2 things I enjoy most and I'm not ok with it.
Femininity is in part defined by both what men want from women and what women are willingly to do. Generally speaking women want to be beautiful and men want women that way too. It seems to me that these feminist believe feminine beauty is only for men when it's convenient for them. When it's their clothing it's "sex positive" and empowerering when it's animated characters it's "internalized misogyny". It's a double standard that they use like a weapon. Ps. One that occasionally works. Like when Hi-rez covered up Furia's thighs because of complaints.
Those people didn't know. Velvet from Tales of Berseria is the epitamy of female empowerment. She is a strong (metaphorticlly and literally) and independent woman who may or may not need no man.
Alex m I would agree on the later part. If she did not meet her crew, she will be gun blazing, body snatching berserker. I can explain the “slutty” outfit. She was angry when she put on her clothes. So angry that the clothes rip off her clothes without knowing because the hatred for her brother out weighs her fashion sense in her mind.
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec well it makes sense that people with mindsets so focused that they would not care for the rest either outside or their actions because they only have the objectives they care about.
I don't think internalized misoginy is a thing, not in the way modern people think of it at least. I think it's the same form of depression that takes hold of those who are constantly demeaned and mistreated for a long period of time, which applies not only to women, but to everyone subject to any form of mistreatment, as they will try to justify to themselves why they are being treated as they are, so it's not misoginy per se, but in my opinion a phenomenon that can affect everyone equally (supposing the right conditions are present). Nowadays, I think, it is more of a type of mental manipulation, you control others by telling them their beliefs and behavior are not their own, but the byproduct of an evil system, and thus they must change their worldview, otherwise they'd be but a cog in "the system" that must be destroyed.
Funny story: “High heels” as we call them today where originally designed to be worn by Nobles (mainly MEN) while riding on hose back. They where never meant to be worn as walking shoes by anyone, regardless of gender, even less so as dress shoes. The where never originally designed to support a person’s weight. The long heels where used in the same way as a cowboy would use the spurs on their boots, its one of the reasons they’re so sharp. Before you ask I am not into any kind of fashion. I actually got that info from an image and an accompanying short paragraph of text from my old history book from my 3rd year of secondary/high school. Even my History teacher knew that from when he was my age at the time.
Colin Masterson Now apparently women are pressured into heels in Japan's work force, but that doesn't mean some of those women can't feel empowered wearing them.
OtakuDaiKun while I won’t argue that fact with you, I was more or less stating how a piece of Victorian Nobles foot wear meant for horse back riding has somehow become a major part of modern fashion in general. People should still have the choice to wear what ever they want regardless of what others think or deem “tasteful” in society. P.s. I just remembered the ironic humor of men being ridiculed for wearing heels even though they where originally designed for men several decades ago. LOL
Oh heres another tid bit on that because of the differences in man and womens bone structure for a lot of women at least heels are better for them then flats. Partly because they are actually better supporting. Again this has to do with bone structures.
Aren't internalized misoginy would be women who cannot put revealing clothes and be pushed down by men to think that they can't do what they want ? For a lot of centuries women couldn't wear revealing or fambloyant clothes without being labeled as prostitute, firstly by men (but also women who were pushing this shit). When people would saying that a women cannot wear what they wants because they are not supposed to and have their roles in a kitchen and nursery. When they used to put them (and even today in some country) as a same level as a children who can't think for themself. The first wave feminism was made for women to empowering themself and feel confident to feel sexy and wearing what they want or like. These kind of people are the ones who would say "Oh if she wasn't wearing reveling clothes she wouldn't be rape, that what happens when you listen to men". They look way more conservative than what they think they are. As a woman myself these kind of person really upset me. Did they even think of the fact that a woman who drawing sexy women might be lesbian or just enjoy feminine body ? I'm not lesbian but I know that I like to see boobs and ass. (sorry for my english i'm not fluent)
not every part in the past is at fault when some things in the past were very dark times and cycles of survival and experimentation. Plus there was women not just from european victorian period or middle ages who only wore those big dresses because of fads and style. Like even other women from vikings to other tribes or nationalities that had more revealing outfits. Even from greek and romans had more simple dresses that looked more like huge sheets wrapped that still gave the sensual look more revealing than victorian clothing. Plus it was more to do with the lizard brain cell on the back on survive and reproduce when things were harsh for both genders to survive.
@@alexk7880 I know that not every part is at fault. I making generality of Europe and occidental. Viking Greek and romans were way too early and way too different. Most of things that leads our (occidental) society today is based of the Renaissance era not the Viking. Also Fancy dress in Victorian era is not as same as what is considered fancy today.
@@narudayo5053 understandable as something like corssettes seemed like a fad along with peer pressure by richer classes to dress ridiculous at times or wear huge wigs or make weird hairstyles that are too big and lots of knots. Plus as corssettes were a fetish to make the breasts look bigger as certain clothing to even wearing something to make the butt look bigger which to today we created fetishes as if natural growth in it exists even though it takes specific conditions of getting that fetish fantasy as reality as some were able to achieve it.
Throughout the whole story of Berseria nothing Velvet did is indicative of her being a lesbian. I always thought she had a very close relationship with Laphicet which is a dude.
Yeah I didn’t understand that either. Though I don’t think she had any real idea of relationship with anyone including laphicet who seemed to be like family to her
Exactly, she at first projected her dead brother to him, hence why she gave him her brother's name, but later on, she sees Phi as his own being with his own thoughts and emotions. Phi's arc was about discovering these new emotions he has under Velvet's influence, and in turn tore down the walls Velvet built around herself to hide her vulnerability due to how hard she worked to take care of her sickly brother who died, because of Artorius being a power hungry religious nutjob.
Feminism Logic: "This female character here is too sexualised! I don't like it! Change it!" Also Feminism: "I'm too sexy and i expose too much skin? And u don't like it? STOP OPPRESSING ME!"
All these "social justice" warriors of today. It's starting to make me sick. Tryna tell ppl what they can and can't do. Yet at the same time supposably fighting for "freedom" from oppression. Yet they don't realize that oppression is exactly what they themselves are committing.
A "empowered by sexiness" character from time to time is fine by me. Fun, even. But when every combat-capable female in anime uses this trope, the appeal wears out its welcome and the trope becomes a cliche. There's a bazillion different ways to approach a character's visual design.... Approaching every female design with "but it's gotta be SEXY" is actually very limiting in the long run. I want to see a wide variety of visual design for females, so I get disappointed when the artist takes the shortcut of "let's just make her sexy".
Vivid Daydream I can understand that. If there's a demand for a certain character than that's perfectly valid. The issue then becomes what is and isn't considered sexy. A lot of people find just the default school uniform to be attractive on its own. Then, if you deliberately go out of your way to make a character ugly, that doesn't really work either. It's a tad tricky when everyone has a different standard.
Here we go again. Otaku do you ever get tired of SJWs like the rest of us? Cause if it wasn’t for the fact that these people ruin anime I would ignore them and let them scream into the void.
....huh there’s a problem with Velvets outfit I didn’t really notice while engaged with the badass revenge plot and my anger of Arthur’s betrayal in killing his sickly brother in law and throwing his sister in law on a prison but yea ig Velvets costume is revealing that’s cool to
The way i see it women can wear what they want.I know of many women who do not have a problem with wearing "Sexy" clothes because they like how they look in them. We should not feel bad for looking at fictional characters in sexy and revealing outfits.
Alright, let's do a little thought experiment. If fictional characters don't have real-world agency, then are the writers responsible for the evil acts of patriarchy in a lot of intersectional literature? Let's take The Handmaid's Tale for an example: in that setting, the men dominate absolutely and oppress women routinely in their everyday lives. However, given that the men are fictional, they don't have agency in their actions: the only reason they're oppressing women is because the author wrote them that way. As a result, shouldn't we be decrying the author as an agent of the patriarchy? Wouldn't the author be perpetuating the very thing they supposedly hate simply by writing their men in such a manner? Shouldn't we be decrying the treatment of these fictional men, who have no choice but to harshly oppress women just to fulfill the sick fantasies of this writer?
My answer is no. I've never read The Mandmaid's Tale, but I still take a wild guess and say the book was telling its readers "Ladies, don't let this happen to you. Men, don't turn into these assholes." A cautionary tale is what I'm pretty much trying to say. Not much thought was put into that guess, and it's still more effort than an SJW is capable of.
@@OtakuDaiKun Oh, I totally agree: I was just being sarcastic. Personally, I approach all fiction with my disbelief heavily suspended: unless the story's REALLY bad, it takes quite a bit to make me not actually think about the characters as people. Thus, if someone writes a character a certain way, I just accept that's who the character is
@@ashchisalleh1454 Not entirely sure what you're getting at here, but let me put the whole "male gaze" argument in a different light for you. It is supposedly sexist to portray women in skimpy clothing because it somehow demeans the character, correct? This means that the viewer is not meant to be able to respect the female character because she is less covered up than considered normal. That attitude is in itself sexist because your respect for a person - female or otherwise - should not be contingent on how naked they are or are not. If you're getting in a tizzy because a woman is showing skin, that is reflective of your own sexism and not the sexism of the artist
Speaking of “Tales of Xillia” I wish the ending would change with Jude and Milla ending up living together. And in its sequel I wish for Nova to be a playable character, and during the climax of the game where Ludger tries to kill himself to save Elle Nova asks Ludger to kill Nova herself too, which Ludger accepts as he kills himself and Nova simultaneously, saving Elle.
also the amount of cool and badass in her outfit overpowers the amount of sexy in her outfit. like goddamn look at all those belts and that torn coat thingie. i'm a guy (and not even a physically fit or appealing guy mind you) and even i want to cosplay that!!!
I agree with you, however, simply using the artist as girl designing Valvet is too easy imo. Because the manga/anime//gaming world in Japan is mostly a boys’ club and women workers in general have to adhere to what their bosses want. Not saying that Valvet’s design was made to satisfy the patriarchy but it would be to easy to think that the design is official because the artist deems so. More often than not the artist must adhere to what the company wants. Case in point to Ushiwakamaru in Fate/Go. The artist wanted her to be more modest but Nasu wouldn’t use their art until more skin was revealed. All I’m saying is that there is more going on behind the scenes than we’d like to think it’s usually more complicated than it should be
DJ Insanity that’s definitely true! I even recognize sailor moon’s artist for being a woman mangaka in the late 80s along with Ranma 1/2’s artist. However most of the time the editors hold more power than the artist, also the editor is the mouthpiece for the company more often than not and a lot of times positions of power in Japan are put forth for men. Just for a small example of Japan as whole, the prime minister has been quoted on record saying women don’t even need higher education and it’s come out that some companies will outright not higher women. Looping back to the manga world, artists may be more diverse but the choice of design must first be approved to which most of the approvals usually come from men in higher positions of power. I’d say more but this is already long-winded. Japan does have a sting patriarchy
Thanks once again for protecting our waifus form out of control censors and rabid sjw feminists you are the best. All these girls looks beautiful, powerful and unique compared to their boring and outright puritan designs we she in western games. Have you seen the female fighters in MK11 they all wear burqas just with different colors so unimaginative...
I came for the commentary on our society but stayed for the Fact Fiend reference. Dai, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Shine on, you crazy fucking diamond.
didnt velvet dressed like that cause it was available in the prison and later didnt rly care xD? as long as she could fight, she was game, and she didnt feel temperatures anyway...plus, it fits her edgy character and ruthless fighting style
Hey, these two peeps are friends, MY friends, it would be nice if you could block Tim's name too so people dont find the conversation. They dont need weirdos going after them.
Wait a minute an sjw is attacking my girl velvet? Oh boy, I could make a huge thesis paper on why this person's claims just doesn't work but all I'll say is just because velvet is dressed the way she is it doesn't make her in any way weak at all. Moreover it's the fact that she is still a strong woman regardless of her fashion sense. Her journey her struggles and her character development were all the things that bundled up into the reasons why I love her so much as a female lead and as a character. It just sounds really dumb what that person's post was talking about and speaking of God Eater a friend's friend just bought the second one and I asked my friend did his friend get to see best girl AKA Alissa yet and he said no. Anyway this whole sjw thing is still going completely out of control but fantastic work with the video and major props mentioning Ripley AKA badass alien heroine.
Question about the background video playing. Who is the girl with the sandy pale hair, red hat, red skirt, short black top and a huge red and black giant sword with gun features? And what game series is this from?
Bruh imo velvet is the best female protag i have ever played as in a game. I love her. And one of the scenes that made me fucking love her was when she DISLOCATED HER ARM THEN RUSHED INTO A WALL TO RELOCATE IT. FUCKING BADASS Edit: here's that very scene 2:30 And i REALLY like that she doesn't have any romance options in the game. Makes the whole game much more realistic. No time for that shit
I actually love Velvet"s outfit, I would totally wear that, and I'm a dude. Don't like it? Too bad, fight me. But no one insults this waifu. Hell, no one insults husbando bois either. I'd fight ya
Theres a difference between criticism and hate. The only thing I would criticize about Kasumi's design is how similar it is to Joker's design. That's my opinion but you dont see me forcing it upon others. People just want to find reasons to criticize things without actually putting in any effort to analyze it in the first place and then pushing that negativity towards people who genuinely find enjoyment. At that point, it takes away any positive value that their opinion might have and just becomes destructive hatred. Its that kind of stuff that ruins fandoms for others.
Love the Video, I could never understand there argument they have people put to much time into thinking about the character instead of the story they come from and its sad that they arent willing to listen to the other side and they say that there way is the right way I get sick of these arguments because it just feels like I'm just talking to a brick wall so I lose interest fast.
Throwing a hissy fit on sexy anime characters doesn't help, as female characters who appear sexy have actual character developments like Velvet turned from happy to a badass, journalists could've seen the personalities they might like, but they always look at the appearance and aesthetic first...
yeah i'll admit the eye candy is what draws a lot of interest to start with but if there not an interesting charter no one is going to care for very long
I appreciate a lot of things in this vid such as how you underline repeatedly that internalized misogny is a real phenomenon and how you redacted the woman's account name. But there are still going to be a bunch of responses in this thread that are dismissive of feminism in general because humans on the internet who just can't seem to handle nuance will only hear you reaffirming their biases. I'd rather see you engage with people who know more than you (and me) about anime's cultural flashpoints with feminism rather than a Twitter rando SO CLEARLY out of her depth.
You are asking way too much from him, he didn't do it 3 videos ago, he won't do it now. He is well aware that those cherry picked people from twitter/tumblr aren't real feminist, but is easier to attack a strawman than address the real issue
@@KishinAkenm It's a lot to ask of anyone on this platform, really. A couple weeks ago I saw a really good vid essay on the loli crackdown. I can't find it now so I assume it was purged by either youtube or its author. Meanwhile when Captain Marvel was set to come out any slackjawed moron who put together 25 words about why Brie Larson sucks was pretty much guaranteed 200k views on this hellscape of video distribution. Agitating the anime faithful against SJWs instead of dialoging with sex positive feminists is tempting because the algorithm is just begging him to do it. Maybe Dai Kun will meet us halfway and stick with "Social Justice Puritans" as the focus of ire. I kind of like that term.
(1:03) I didn't exactly like velvets outfit either but that didn't stop me from liking her character and her story. Literally everything about the outfit is just a personal choice if I don't like how the outfit looks I can choose a variety of different ones or just look at fanart. (Here's the name of the fanart if you feel like looking at it: 02e90005 )
The same moral guardians policing and dictating what a female character should wear are the same moral guardians claiming real women should be able to wear whatever they want. Great vid as always Dai, I agree with your arguments 💯 percent.
Velvet is tied for number one Tales Of protagonist with Luke, and it has very little to do with her appearance. I like that even when you know what happens that she just gets even more pissed off, and said I don’t care you’re still gonna catch these hands. She has a goal, and until it’s complete she won’t give up. Same goes for Milla. Hell, I named female characters in Mass Effect and dragons dogma, because of how awesome Milla is. I hate that despite how awesome their personalities are they still get reduced to their outfits.
Velvet is the reason I bought tales of berseria, top tier waifu. But hell even with exposed clothing it far from distracts me from her personality and badass fighting techniques, she's extremely fun to play as. I also love her interactions with the rest of the cast and even after going through so much trying to be a loner and not bond with anyone she still feels and is very human, in the end still bonded with Laphicet and it keeps her humanity intact not being consumed by her revenge!
My favorite character ever is Apollo Justice, or Housuke Odoroki if you want the Japanese name. He is nothing like me externally. I am 6'1", he is 5'4". I am a heavy set guy, he is thin. He is asian, I am white. But that doesn't stop me with relating to him. He's a sarcastic bastard, has a strong sense for wanting to find the truth, and when push comes to shove has a massively big heart. All traits I identify with. Maybe if these sexists and racists would stop trying to identify with skin and gender, they would realize how utterly stunted they are and grow intellectually.
OtakuDaiKun Essentially, its a belief that is specifically designed to be impossible to disprove. Its the belief that everything was created last thursday and that everything here was just made to look a billion years old.
Anime is widely known for being over the top, both in power and sex appeal (and more often than not simultaneously uses both). I'd call this a good thing; power fantasies and escapism are a wonderful balance to the limits of our world on a physical, mental, and social level. A sort of stress relief, if you will. And if it's not your thing, don't ruin it for the rest of us. If I may be so bold, then to hell with double standards and power-hungry public-shaming liars. They only make these broad claims to stir up controversy and grab attention. Only in a fictional piece where misogyny is blatantly obvious AND is portrayed by the author as a good thing (where would someone find that?) would their arguments hold any weight. Even then, that is a VERY SPECIFIC circumstance and the argument should be focused accordingly. Never assume anything, and never speak in broad strokes. Be specific, and educate yourself. Everything in moderation, including moderation.
Well considering that Velvet wanted to wear Colberious' skin as a pelt for a good chunk of the game. Also I care about my Pokémon and Digimon to the point where it becomes troublesome to catch new Digimon. Also things have never changed when it comes to misogyny. The balance of power has just shifted.
Dear SJWs Please,STAY AWAY FROM OUR ANIME AND GAMES We already had enough with weaboos,elitists and rabid fujoshis/fangirls,so,as a representative of the anime community,SJWs are no longer welcome within us
Ya know if everyone played ToB on PC you can get a mod that "fixes" Velvet's clothes. DONT get the WRONG IDEA ABOUT ME. I love Velvet's design. Relax. Just saying on PC there's an option.
Last time I checked, high heels were invented and worn by King Louis XIV. My buddy has Velvet wear her civilian clothes. It does make her look cool. Yeah this troll seem to be just making excuses to complain.
I've always felt that the outrage about Velvet's design was too overblown. Far from the worst thing that has been sexualized and it is addressed within the game. Velvet doesn't care what she looks like, but she will care if you ogle her. And she will at you. Thing is that sex appeal is important for marketing, and sex appeal isn't exclusive to men. Anyone who says that women don't get aroused by sex appeal is lying. As many fandoms as I have been involved in, I have seen only a few that are as sapphic as the Fate series.
OtakuDaiKun it’s just shorthand for stuff such as these calls for censorship accusations of fascist fetishization and the of course the kickvic snafu. I hope you don’t mind it, it’s just shorter is all.
Female empowerment lies in the choice of the woman. If a woman finds empowerment and freedom in revealing clothing, good for her. If she finds it in more modest outfits, good for her. Same thing with choosing between being a career woman or a stay-at-home wife. There's societal forces pressuring people to fulfill roles, yes, but that's why we should celebrate the diversity of all kinds of people. There's also a thing called reclamation in Leftist theory, where something that used to be oppressive is now being reclaimed by the group who suffered under it. A classic example is the N-word. Bold female sexuality falls under here too.
Yes, this is true, to real people. Not fictional characters. Even if Velvet "chooses" to wear that stuff she was designed; and even if she was designed by the woman, she is not purely a female's design. Something that rubbed me wrong on rebuttals of Bayonetta being a sexual object was the argument "she was designed by a woman." That's not how designs work. People are paid to design concepts from directors who tell them what to make, than approves it. If the director says to design a sexy woman, that's what the designers do. Designing in games is also collaborative. You have teams coming up with ideas, who are most likely men. Then you have the programmers and animators that can sexualise the character with animations and camera angles. Real women can make these choices. Characters are puppets that are made and dressed by people.
Damn now I really want to play god eater ressuraction!!!!! I want see cute Alisa!!! And I know no man push any girl into this particular hobby even they happy about it. No give time to you feeling. My waifu need my attention to express the love.
I don't really pay attention to stuff like this because it's becoming a "bigger issue" than it actually is in my opinion. I don't look at what you might be interested in, in general since it kept getting filled up with that stuff. Their fictional characters it shouldn't matter what they wearing because it's not real life so it doesn't matter if game and/or anime physics contradict real life physics because their not real. Sorry for ranting this just really annoys me.
I agree with most of the video, but there's a thing that make me nervous and that's the bikini armor, I can't believe that someone can use that things as armor and my suspension of disbelief just dissapear.
@@OtakuDaiKun Yeah. It works in comedy shows but I can't take seriously a story with bikini armor, if eveyone is using casual clothes then yeah it's anime and there will be sexy outfits but the armor thing is wath bothers me.
Mia Suarez There are some cases where I really like it. Saber Venus from Fate Extella is a good example since Nero inherits the power of a goddess and it embodies her exhibitionist personality.
What's mostly ironic is that if you mention a fictional character may like the outfit. SJWs will immediately say it's fiction and they don't get to choose. If I ever find myself in that argument, as you have, I will feel inclined to reply back, "then why are you so worried about how a fictional character is dressed? You just admitted to my statement they can't like something because they are fictional, so why are you saying they dislike it?" I know most SJWs try to say things to try and bring reality into it by talking about how a man will think women are supposed to dress that way and act a certain way. I find myself brushing most of it off because if someone thinks for a second that women are grope tools they are in for a shock when reality hits. Even without anime and video games violence of any nature is going to happen, so I think how a fictional character is dressed is the least of my concerns. Who am I kidding, SJWs are finding things to blame for their actions or for someone else's actions.
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Again, internalized misogyny is a legit thing, but this ain't it. Do any sexy anime characters empower you? How so?
Ryuko Matoi once she fully embraces Senketsu. Basically, the third episode of that series makes the case itself.
Tifa Lockheart from final fantasy vii i love how she can kick ass yet still be a nuturing and caring ally
Minamoto no Raikou. She'll burn anything that threatens her loved ones to ash.
@@buddhistforemost4286 There's also Ann from Persona 5, who embraces her sex appeal and stands up to a perverted volleyball coach and has an internal struggle with her self-confidence about her modeling career.
OtakuDaiKun Ryougi Shiki And Velvet Crow !!!!
Honestly, I can never understand why people just get so triggered over something that has nothing to do with them. It's that very reason why they always are, and will be, the butt of the joke because they think that they're doing the world a favor, but it couldn't be that far from the truth.
If anything, ironically, they're being sexist towards women, because of their constant backwards false morality and "virtue signaling" and thinking they know what women want, when in fact, real feminists accept that men and women represent themselves and have their own lifestyles, and I'll gladly take a girl who wears revealing clothing, but is vulnerable enough to be relatable and is not just superficial eye candy. Instead of actually doing something productive, they just whine on Twitter, because of their own insecurities that they refuse to do anything about.
@@davidtimmer596 That just proves the point of how they just get so heated they get over something that's none of their business. And plus, I agree with you in taking a girl with revealing clothing and being vulnerable to be relatable.
My theory is simply the attention they get from it. There's nobody oppressing them so they need to find and show ppl things unreasonably contributing to this "oppression" that Is becoming less and less existent as time goes on and old wounds finally heal.
@@godzillajdo they are narcissists basically
Alex m I figured as much.
Milla Maxwell was one of my favorite protagonists of any JRPG. She was such a strong female character and could look sexy alongside her beliefs that shes a strong Goddess.
I hate how these SJWs feel like characters can't be inspirational or strong, while also dressing sexy. They seem to be anti choice for these female characters.
Oh, yeah. Milla's awesome. There's also Judith from Vesperia. Milla and Vevlet are on my top tier JRPG women.
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Actually Velvet's clothes kinda reflect her state of mind. The tattered state signifies her broken condition while the red and black colours allude to how she has become a violent daemon who only wants revenge against Artorius.
But it's not just her clothing that fits her character but that of the other characters in the game as well. Aside from the obvious main characters, I noticed a theme with the uniform of the Abbey high ups. The less the person values emotions, the less colors he has other than the standard white and gold. We see Artorius mostly lacking any other colour other than the white and gold while Teresa and Oscar have little more. Laphicet has more blue and a collar (can signify his enslavement) while Eleanor wears clothes that are mostly blue with little white. And finally with Shigure, his colors are a contrast as he merely fights for the Abbey because he feels like it and not because he is committed to its ideals.
Coming back to Velvet, I consider her to be one of the best designed female characters in fictional media. Not only does she possess traits that make her an empowering female character but she also has a decent amount of other likeable traits as well. On top of that, she is not devoid of human flaws (unlike many so called characters made for women empowerment who end up being glorified Mary Sue's or just women merely acting like men) like how she is so obsessed with her revenge that she does not care much about anything else, leading to situations like when Phi was forced to open a portal to the leylines or how Innominat almost made her sink into despair. Overall a good character who is also quite human.
And this in turn actually fits the themes of human morality in the story really well. While people criticise the slow starting part of the game, it actually serves the purpose of showing us how circumstances changed Velvet from a sweet top waifu material to someone akin to a genderbent Guts/Edmond Dantes. Then as the story progresses, we see her acting like a villain but still root for her because we know what she has been through. Then because of Phi, we do learn that her human side still remained within her and later Phi is able to help her. In the end, she kills Artorious not out of revenge motivated by pure hatred but because the Shepard had lost sight of his own self and ideals. I noticed that most of the "maxims" Artorius talks about don't exactly feel like maxims when you compare them with Immanuel Kant's philosophy (someone who Artorius seems to follow quite a bit as Kant considers actions driven by principles to be moral instead of those driven by emotions, which he considers irrational) as they have a definite condition/purpose behind them (such as controlling emotions IN ORDER TO control the tide of battle.). From what I read about the Maxim's Kant Spoke of, those maxims were supposed to be unconditional i.e general truth like do good. So we see that Arthur's maxims have conditions which contradicts Kant's definition.
Except one. Don't despair. The same one Velvet reminds Artorius as she stabs him. In the end Arthur actually became more of an act utilitarian in his wish to create a peaceful world by removing emotions. That's some really amazing writing right there. Makes me glad I got this game and made me more interested in the Tales series.
Hopefully we can see Velvet and Phi reunited in Crestoria. He deserves to be with her far more than Sieg deserves to be with Jeanne.
The original high heels was worn by Persian cavalry men.
And the manliest men in Sparta wore short skirts.
Also by kings and noble men.They were a symbol of wealth and status as they were heels that you could not work in.(because if you could afford them in the first place you had no business working)Women only started wearing them a little later in history.
And pink colors wear by man before girl.
Hyperdimension Neptunia's character design is by a young female artist named Tsunako; She doesn't shy away from suggestive depictions either, even though thats not the series' focus at all. Honestly i believe its a bit of a culture thing, along with easily offended idiots of another culture of course.
I'm sure someone would argue that Tsunako is a "victim" of the systemic misogyny in Japanese and anime culture, unable to make her own decisions, or at the very least is forced into designing as she does because it's popular and she wants work.
This is reductive and insensitive. When you ignore people's personal preference and free will, you diminish their individuality and importance, essentially bullying them into feeling shame for liking what they like. "Feminists" (I use quotes because they are not REAL feminists, but I lack a better term, and SJW is too broad and amorphous of a label) want to enact change by normalizing this shame to the point that everything that makes THEM uncomfortable is expunged.
Instead of just ignoring things they don't like and moving on, they see anything that doesn't fit into their purview as inextricable from whatever they deem wrong with the world, justifiably or not.
What I find really aggravating though is they are clucking their tongues at the "moral degradation" in media from a completely different culture. Western culture and Japanese culture share a lot of similarities, but there are quite a few social nuances that are completely ignored when painting with such broad strokes.
@@poethewondercat7851 Its why I call it 3rd wave or 4th wave feminazis as it has an area of when things blew up and it was somewhere 2014 to 2020 or just present but more women are dropping out of feminism due to bad women on their side ironically.
There's blatant sexualization that deserves criticism, and hell even some certain parts of Berseria's protagonist are worth a critic (although very small bits, the overall design works wonders with her character). But, nowadays it seems many of this kind of critic go after characters meant to be attractive just because they're attractive AND women.
How come they don't comment on Dante from Devil May Cry? In 3, he starts off shirtless and you can get that look as an alternate costume. He's always designed to be pretty as all hell (even in 5 when he's fairly old). He has charm, and it mixes well with his character. He's powerful, stylish, kinda of a goofy dick and, yes, sexy as all hell. And people acknowledge he's sexy. So many people are horny for Dante! The Berseria protagonist is a furious and brutal warrior with a ragged if somewhat sexy look. Dante is a much more blatantly teasing and arrogant character, that knows he's attractive and loves showing off.
So, how come she is worse?
I bet none of these SJWs would would complain if they saw a Eizen in a towel, which is also in the game as a costume.
The more I hear these double standard spewing hypocrites talk about things like misogyny and the like the less I care and I honestly didn’t care much to begin with for their lunacy.
As a lady who primarily likes men, I love good design and feel sexy when playing Velvet or even using Shuten-Douji in Fgo. If SJW could stop speaking for me, that'd be great
ZeroDexBex check your internalized misogyny madam
Shuten Douji is awesome.
@@HuntertheWraithDragon her voice makes me melt! I love her.
@@DecieversFinery Same not to mention the fact that I love her playful personality.
Although I think Shuten's design is perfect for her and absolutely wonderful, I don't find it attractive.
The voice tho? Forget the wine, I could get drunk on that.
High heels were originally a male thing.
"The origin of high-heels can be traced back to 15th century Persia when soldiers wore them to help secure their feet in stirrups. Persian migrants brought the shoe trend to Europe, where male aristocrats wore them to appear taller and more formidable."
These SJW'S speak for themselves and they are just ridiculous. They think they speak for all women, but all of my female gamer friends feel empowered when playing with a badass hardcore female character. The sexier the better. I am yet to meet an actual woman that is offended in any way by characters like Velvet. I am so sick of SJW's complaining about inappropriate video games and or anime. They are trying to ruin the 2 things I enjoy most and I'm not ok with it.
Internalized misogyny is just a copout to dismiss any woman who disagrees without having to refute them.
Exactly, it's just an insult, not an actual argument.
it is a thing, it's people who shame other women for being feminine/not being feminine, basicy the people on twitter are full of it
Femininity is in part defined by both what men want from women and what women are willingly to do. Generally speaking women want to be beautiful and men want women that way too. It seems to me that these feminist believe feminine beauty is only for men when it's convenient for them. When it's their clothing it's "sex positive" and empowerering when it's animated characters it's "internalized misogyny". It's a double standard that they use like a weapon.
Ps. One that occasionally works.
Like when Hi-rez covered up Furia's thighs because of complaints.
Dan Hughes Even if the outfit is for a male's preferences, the fact that it's a fictional character means nobody's forcing it on an actual woman.
@@OtakuDaiKun I agree. That's the important bit.
Those people didn't know. Velvet from Tales of Berseria is the epitamy of female empowerment. She is a strong (metaphorticlly and literally) and independent woman who may or may not need no man.
well she needed a crew to help fight others and was a sort of chain to help keep her and everyone together
Alex m I would agree on the later part. If she did not meet her crew, she will be gun blazing, body snatching berserker. I can explain the “slutty” outfit. She was angry when she put on her clothes. So angry that the clothes rip off her clothes without knowing because the hatred for her brother out weighs her fashion sense in her mind.
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec well it makes sense that people with mindsets so focused that they would not care for the rest either outside or their actions because they only have the objectives they care about.
I don't think internalized misoginy is a thing, not in the way modern people think of it at least. I think it's the same form of depression that takes hold of those who are constantly demeaned and mistreated for a long period of time, which applies not only to women, but to everyone subject to any form of mistreatment, as they will try to justify to themselves why they are being treated as they are, so it's not misoginy per se, but in my opinion a phenomenon that can affect everyone equally (supposing the right conditions are present). Nowadays, I think, it is more of a type of mental manipulation, you control others by telling them their beliefs and behavior are not their own, but the byproduct of an evil system, and thus they must change their worldview, otherwise they'd be but a cog in "the system" that must be destroyed.
Funny story:
“High heels” as we call them today where originally designed to be worn by Nobles (mainly MEN) while riding on hose back. They where never meant to be worn as walking shoes by anyone, regardless of gender, even less so as dress shoes.
The where never originally designed to support a person’s weight. The long heels where used in the same way as a cowboy would use the spurs on their boots, its one of the reasons they’re so sharp.
Before you ask I am not into any kind of fashion. I actually got that info from an image and an accompanying short paragraph of text from my old history book from my 3rd year of secondary/high school. Even my History teacher knew that from when he was my age at the time.
Colin Masterson Now apparently women are pressured into heels in Japan's work force, but that doesn't mean some of those women can't feel empowered wearing them.
OtakuDaiKun while I won’t argue that fact with you, I was more or less stating how a piece of Victorian Nobles foot wear meant for horse back riding has somehow become a major part of modern fashion in general.
People should still have the choice to wear what ever they want regardless of what others think or deem “tasteful” in society.
P.s. I just remembered the ironic humor of men being ridiculed for wearing heels even though they where originally designed for men several decades ago. LOL
Oh heres another tid bit on that because of the differences in man and womens bone structure for a lot of women at least heels are better for them then flats. Partly because they are actually better supporting. Again this has to do with bone structures.
Aren't internalized misoginy would be women who cannot put revealing clothes and be pushed down by men to think that they can't do what they want ? For a lot of centuries women couldn't wear revealing or fambloyant clothes without being labeled as prostitute, firstly by men (but also women who were pushing this shit).
When people would saying that a women cannot wear what they wants because they are not supposed to and have their roles in a kitchen and nursery. When they used to put them (and even today in some country) as a same level as a children who can't think for themself.
The first wave feminism was made for women to empowering themself and feel confident to feel sexy and wearing what they want or like. These kind of people are the ones who would say "Oh if she wasn't wearing reveling clothes she wouldn't be rape, that what happens when you listen to men". They look way more conservative than what they think they are.
As a woman myself these kind of person really upset me. Did they even think of the fact that a woman who drawing sexy women might be lesbian or just enjoy feminine body ? I'm not lesbian but I know that I like to see boobs and ass.
(sorry for my english i'm not fluent)
not every part in the past is at fault when some things in the past were very dark times and cycles of survival and experimentation. Plus there was women not just from european victorian period or middle ages who only wore those big dresses because of fads and style. Like even other women from vikings to other tribes or nationalities that had more revealing outfits. Even from greek and romans had more simple dresses that looked more like huge sheets wrapped that still gave the sensual look more revealing than victorian clothing. Plus it was more to do with the lizard brain cell on the back on survive and reproduce when things were harsh for both genders to survive.
@@alexk7880 I know that not every part is at fault. I making generality of Europe and occidental. Viking Greek and romans were way too early and way too different. Most of things that leads our (occidental) society today is based of the Renaissance era not the Viking. Also Fancy dress in Victorian era is not as same as what is considered fancy today.
@@narudayo5053 understandable as something like corssettes seemed like a fad along with peer pressure by richer classes to dress ridiculous at times or wear huge wigs or make weird hairstyles that are too big and lots of knots. Plus as corssettes were a fetish to make the breasts look bigger as certain clothing to even wearing something to make the butt look bigger which to today we created fetishes as if natural growth in it exists even though it takes specific conditions of getting that fetish fantasy as reality as some were able to achieve it.
As always, great job. Keep fighting the good fight my friend.
Sounds more like a case of insecurity from the sjw. Can't look as good as Velvet so hate hate hate away.
Emperor Maxwell you’re so stupid ...
Throughout the whole story of Berseria nothing Velvet did is indicative of her being a lesbian. I always thought she had a very close relationship with Laphicet which is a dude.
Yeah I didn’t understand that either. Though I don’t think she had any real idea of relationship with anyone including laphicet who seemed to be like family to her
Exactly, she at first projected her dead brother to him, hence why she gave him her brother's name, but later on, she sees Phi as his own being with his own thoughts and emotions. Phi's arc was about discovering these new emotions he has under Velvet's influence, and in turn tore down the walls Velvet built around herself to hide her vulnerability due to how hard she worked to take care of her sickly brother who died, because of Artorius being a power hungry religious nutjob.
In the words of Jack Atlas, “I’m gonna pretend that made sense.”
(Internalized Brain Cells Dying intesefies)
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Feminism Logic:
"This female character here is too sexualised! I don't like it! Change it!"
Also Feminism: "I'm too sexy and i expose too much skin? And u don't like it? STOP OPPRESSING ME!"
All these "social justice" warriors of today. It's starting to make me sick. Tryna tell ppl what they can and can't do. Yet at the same time supposably fighting for "freedom" from oppression. Yet they don't realize that oppression is exactly what they themselves are committing.
A "empowered by sexiness" character from time to time is fine by me. Fun, even. But when every combat-capable female in anime uses this trope, the appeal wears out its welcome and the trope becomes a cliche. There's a bazillion different ways to approach a character's visual design.... Approaching every female design with "but it's gotta be SEXY" is actually very limiting in the long run. I want to see a wide variety of visual design for females, so I get disappointed when the artist takes the shortcut of "let's just make her sexy".
Vivid Daydream I can understand that. If there's a demand for a certain character than that's perfectly valid. The issue then becomes what is and isn't considered sexy. A lot of people find just the default school uniform to be attractive on its own. Then, if you deliberately go out of your way to make a character ugly, that doesn't really work either. It's a tad tricky when everyone has a different standard.
Here we go again. Otaku do you ever get tired of SJWs like the rest of us? Cause if it wasn’t for the fact that these people ruin anime I would ignore them and let them scream into the void.
Vermithrax I just wanna prove them wrong at every turn. Plus it gives me an excuse to promote some great sexy anime.
I was just watching that .
I have seen more beaten guys by girls in anime.
....huh there’s a problem with Velvets outfit I didn’t really notice while engaged with the badass revenge plot and my anger of Arthur’s betrayal in killing his sickly brother in law and throwing his sister in law on a prison but yea ig Velvets costume is revealing that’s cool to
It makes me laugh that people actually get flipped about fictional characters
The way i see it women can wear what they want.I know of many women who do not have a problem with wearing "Sexy" clothes because they like how they look in them.
We should not feel bad for looking at fictional characters in sexy and revealing outfits.
I think anime is filled more with misandry than misogyny. Look at most cases of antagonists in anime and tsunderes.
Anime loves equality. Men can beat women and women can beat men.
@@Written_in_the_Starss Definitely more equal than western media.
I couldn't agree more my friend
@@Written_in_the_Starss glad someone understands that
Alright, let's do a little thought experiment. If fictional characters don't have real-world agency, then are the writers responsible for the evil acts of patriarchy in a lot of intersectional literature? Let's take The Handmaid's Tale for an example: in that setting, the men dominate absolutely and oppress women routinely in their everyday lives. However, given that the men are fictional, they don't have agency in their actions: the only reason they're oppressing women is because the author wrote them that way. As a result, shouldn't we be decrying the author as an agent of the patriarchy? Wouldn't the author be perpetuating the very thing they supposedly hate simply by writing their men in such a manner? Shouldn't we be decrying the treatment of these fictional men, who have no choice but to harshly oppress women just to fulfill the sick fantasies of this writer?
Distance It's a balance between believing a performance and realizing that someone has to play the bad guy for a compelling story.
My answer is no. I've never read The Mandmaid's Tale, but I still take a wild guess and say the book was telling its readers "Ladies, don't let this happen to you. Men, don't turn into these assholes." A cautionary tale is what I'm pretty much trying to say.
Not much thought was put into that guess, and it's still more effort than an SJW is capable of.
@@OtakuDaiKun Oh, I totally agree: I was just being sarcastic. Personally, I approach all fiction with my disbelief heavily suspended: unless the story's REALLY bad, it takes quite a bit to make me not actually think about the characters as people. Thus, if someone writes a character a certain way, I just accept that's who the character is
At least writer Do something about it. They not give excuses.
@@ashchisalleh1454 Not entirely sure what you're getting at here, but let me put the whole "male gaze" argument in a different light for you. It is supposedly sexist to portray women in skimpy clothing because it somehow demeans the character, correct? This means that the viewer is not meant to be able to respect the female character because she is less covered up than considered normal. That attitude is in itself sexist because your respect for a person - female or otherwise - should not be contingent on how naked they are or are not. If you're getting in a tizzy because a woman is showing skin, that is reflective of your own sexism and not the sexism of the artist
Sjws- we are protecting them
Me- velvet literally kills and eats demons what protection she needing
Frankie Yuen If anyone who insults her will either get school or at worst, becomes her dinner.
sjws-from the male gaze.
I love how you’re refuting your own arguments.
I love Sailor Mars , Velvet crowe and Sakuya tachibana as my favorite badass females.
more important... where do that images from alien come from?!
First, Internalized Opression
Now, Internalized Misogyny.
What's wrong with these people?
Internalized oxygen combustion
That One Annoying Altera Fanboy what’s next, Internalized Exprosion?
@@doorbladder5735 Internalized Racism
Speaking of “Tales of Xillia” I wish the ending would change with Jude and Milla ending up living together. And in its sequel I wish for Nova to be a playable character, and during the climax of the game where Ludger tries to kill himself to save Elle Nova asks Ludger to kill Nova herself too, which Ludger accepts as he kills himself and Nova simultaneously, saving Elle.
I agree.
Even if a woman designed her, that woman knows what she was doing. She wants to appeal to the male gaze
Women can appreciate how other women look, y'know.
also the amount of cool and badass in her outfit overpowers the amount of sexy in her outfit. like goddamn look at all those belts and that torn coat thingie. i'm a guy (and not even a physically fit or appealing guy mind you) and even i want to cosplay that!!!
I agree with you, however, simply using the artist as girl designing Valvet is too easy imo. Because the manga/anime//gaming world in Japan is mostly a boys’ club and women workers in general have to adhere to what their bosses want. Not saying that Valvet’s design was made to satisfy the patriarchy but it would be to easy to think that the design is official because the artist deems so. More often than not the artist must adhere to what the company wants. Case in point to Ushiwakamaru in Fate/Go. The artist wanted her to be more modest but Nasu wouldn’t use their art until more skin was revealed. All I’m saying is that there is more going on behind the scenes than we’d like to think it’s usually more complicated than it should be
You might want to go beyond the idea that manga and anime is a "boy's club" see the CLAMP group and the woman who made Full metal Alchemist
DJ Insanity that’s definitely true! I even recognize sailor moon’s artist for being a woman mangaka in the late 80s along with Ranma 1/2’s artist. However most of the time the editors hold more power than the artist, also the editor is the mouthpiece for the company more often than not and a lot of times positions of power in Japan are put forth for men. Just for a small example of Japan as whole, the prime minister has been quoted on record saying women don’t even need higher education and it’s come out that some companies will outright not higher women. Looping back to the manga world, artists may be more diverse but the choice of design must first be approved to which most of the approvals usually come from men in higher positions of power. I’d say more but this is already long-winded. Japan does have a sting patriarchy
Thanks once again for protecting our waifus form out of control censors and rabid sjw feminists you are the best. All these girls looks beautiful, powerful and unique compared to their boring and outright puritan designs we she in western games. Have you seen the female fighters in MK11 they all wear burqas just with different colors so unimaginative...
Nikolas Faraday Those designs are what you get in an SJW paradise.
I came for the commentary on our society but stayed for the Fact Fiend reference. Dai, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Shine on, you crazy fucking diamond.
didnt velvet dressed like that cause it was available in the prison and later didnt rly care xD? as long as she could fight, she was game, and she didnt feel temperatures anyway...plus, it fits her edgy character and ruthless fighting style
"The more in touch we are with our fantasies, the less we demand from reality"
Hey, these two peeps are friends, MY friends, it would be nice if you could block Tim's name too so people dont find the conversation. They dont need weirdos going after them.
As in SoapyTits?
Can I not have nice things anymore? Also that man deserves a medal for that burn.
Wait a minute an sjw is attacking my girl velvet? Oh boy, I could make a huge thesis paper on why this person's claims just doesn't work but all I'll say is just because velvet is dressed the way she is it doesn't make her in any way weak at all. Moreover it's the fact that she is still a strong woman regardless of her fashion sense. Her journey her struggles and her character development were all the things that bundled up into the reasons why I love her so much as a female lead and as a character. It just sounds really dumb what that person's post was talking about and speaking of God Eater a friend's friend just bought the second one and I asked my friend did his friend get to see best girl AKA Alissa yet and he said no. Anyway this whole sjw thing is still going completely out of control but fantastic work with the video and major props mentioning Ripley AKA badass alien heroine.
Question about the background video playing. Who is the girl with the sandy pale hair, red hat, red skirt, short black top and a huge red and black giant sword with gun features?
And what game series is this from?
God eater
@@tuyet2bdead193 Thank you man! Looks like a cool game.
*Internalized Misogyny*
*pulls out a glass of whiskey* I need this...
Bruh imo velvet is the best female protag i have ever played as in a game. I love her. And one of the scenes that made me fucking love her was when she DISLOCATED HER ARM THEN RUSHED INTO A WALL TO RELOCATE IT. FUCKING BADASS
Edit: here's that very scene 2:30
And i REALLY like that she doesn't have any romance options in the game. Makes the whole game much more realistic. No time for that shit
I actually love Velvet"s outfit, I would totally wear that, and I'm a dude. Don't like it? Too bad, fight me.
But no one insults this waifu. Hell, no one insults husbando bois either. I'd fight ya
Theres a difference between criticism and hate. The only thing I would criticize about Kasumi's design is how similar it is to Joker's design. That's my opinion but you dont see me forcing it upon others.
People just want to find reasons to criticize things without actually putting in any effort to analyze it in the first place and then pushing that negativity towards people who genuinely find enjoyment. At that point, it takes away any positive value that their opinion might have and just becomes destructive hatred. Its that kind of stuff that ruins fandoms for others.
Love the Video, I could never understand there argument they have people put to much time into thinking about the character instead of the story they come from and its sad that they arent willing to listen to the other side and they say that there way is the right way I get sick of these arguments because it just feels like I'm just talking to a brick wall so I lose interest fast.
Throwing a hissy fit on sexy anime characters doesn't help, as female characters who appear sexy have actual character developments like Velvet turned from happy to a badass, journalists could've seen the personalities they might like, but they always look at the appearance and aesthetic first...
yeah i'll admit the eye candy is what draws a lot of interest to start with but if there not an interesting charter no one is going to care for very long
I appreciate a lot of things in this vid such as how you underline repeatedly that internalized misogny is a real phenomenon and how you redacted the woman's account name. But there are still going to be a bunch of responses in this thread that are dismissive of feminism in general because humans on the internet who just can't seem to handle nuance will only hear you reaffirming their biases. I'd rather see you engage with people who know more than you (and me) about anime's cultural flashpoints with feminism rather than a Twitter rando SO CLEARLY out of her depth.
You are asking way too much from him, he didn't do it 3 videos ago, he won't do it now. He is well aware that those cherry picked people from twitter/tumblr aren't real feminist, but is easier to attack a strawman than address the real issue
@@KishinAkenm It's a lot to ask of anyone on this platform, really. A couple weeks ago I saw a really good vid essay on the loli crackdown. I can't find it now so I assume it was purged by either youtube or its author. Meanwhile when Captain Marvel was set to come out any slackjawed moron who put together 25 words about why Brie Larson sucks was pretty much guaranteed 200k views on this hellscape of video distribution. Agitating the anime faithful against SJWs instead of dialoging with sex positive feminists is tempting because the algorithm is just begging him to do it. Maybe Dai Kun will meet us halfway and stick with "Social Justice Puritans" as the focus of ire. I kind of like that term.
How long has your OP song been rock? I like it.
PedroWolf25 Like a month. Thanks^^
Day by day, I'm getting more tire to the point I'm not even angry anymore just tired.
Arthoria Pendragon Idilfitri They want you to give up so they can have their way.
(1:03)
I didn't exactly like velvets outfit either but that didn't stop me from liking her character and her story.
Literally everything about the outfit is just a personal choice if I don't like how the outfit looks I can choose a variety of different ones or just look at fanart.
(Here's the name of the fanart if you feel like looking at it: 02e90005 )
Wow This video is better than I expected.
The same moral guardians policing and dictating what a female character should wear are the same moral guardians claiming real women should be able to wear whatever they want. Great vid as always Dai, I agree with your arguments 💯 percent.
Velvet is tied for number one Tales Of protagonist with Luke, and it has very little to do with her appearance. I like that even when you know what happens that she just gets even more pissed off, and said I don’t care you’re still gonna catch these hands. She has a goal, and until it’s complete she won’t give up. Same goes for Milla. Hell, I named female characters in Mass Effect and dragons dogma, because of how awesome Milla is. I hate that despite how awesome their personalities are they still get reduced to their outfits.
Velvet is the reason I bought tales of berseria, top tier waifu. But hell even with exposed clothing it far from distracts me from her personality and badass fighting techniques, she's extremely fun to play as.
I also love her interactions with the rest of the cast and even after going through so much trying to be a loner and not bond with anyone she still feels and is very human, in the end still bonded with Laphicet and it keeps her humanity intact not being consumed by her revenge!
I very much so like and greatly appreciate what you are doing with these videos so thank you from me to you.
Dont pretend you’re not the problem straight men.
Problem with what?
My favorite character ever is Apollo Justice, or Housuke Odoroki if you want the Japanese name.
He is nothing like me externally. I am 6'1", he is 5'4". I am a heavy set guy, he is thin. He is asian, I am white. But that doesn't stop me with relating to him. He's a sarcastic bastard, has a strong sense for wanting to find the truth, and when push comes to shove has a massively big heart. All traits I identify with.
Maybe if these sexists and racists would stop trying to identify with skin and gender, they would realize how utterly stunted they are and grow intellectually.
First?
Loved the video! Listened just now will watch again later for the visuals.
You know the funny thing is that you can change the outfit
Internalised misogyny is the Last Thursdayism of arguments.
Xuanathan I don't know what that means...
OtakuDaiKun
Essentially, its a belief that is specifically designed to be impossible to disprove. Its the belief that everything was created last thursday and that everything here was just made to look a billion years old.
Xuanathan Ah, okay
What about misogyny? Why isnt this an issue? Thats also internalized. It goes both ways. Talk about hypocrisy.
you mean misandry?
Holy Shit. Did you just reference Fact Fiend? NICE!
Kaptain Silver I watch a lot of UA-cam while I'm doing mundane editing tasks.
Dai I'm begging you please post a link to the end theme for your videos it fuckin bops and I would listen to it if I could
maegaman 1 You just gave me an exciting idea.
Anime is widely known for being over the top, both in power and sex appeal (and more often than not simultaneously uses both). I'd call this a good thing; power fantasies and escapism are a wonderful balance to the limits of our world on a physical, mental, and social level. A sort of stress relief, if you will. And if it's not your thing, don't ruin it for the rest of us.
If I may be so bold, then to hell with double standards and power-hungry public-shaming liars. They only make these broad claims to stir up controversy and grab attention. Only in a fictional piece where misogyny is blatantly obvious AND is portrayed by the author as a good thing (where would someone find that?) would their arguments hold any weight. Even then, that is a VERY SPECIFIC circumstance and the argument should be focused accordingly.
Never assume anything, and never speak in broad strokes. Be specific, and educate yourself. Everything in moderation, including moderation.
What a misleading title. Doesn't actually discuss general internalized mysogny in anime, just defending one character's design.
It only takes one example to debunk such a ridiculous concept.
Well considering that Velvet wanted to wear Colberious' skin as a pelt for a good chunk of the game. Also I care about my Pokémon and Digimon to the point where it becomes troublesome to catch new Digimon. Also things have never changed when it comes to misogyny. The balance of power has just shifted.
Good on you man :3
If it wears a Revealing outfit... and can kick ass... it isn't Masagonist.
Dear SJWs
Please,STAY AWAY FROM OUR ANIME AND GAMES
We already had enough with weaboos,elitists and rabid fujoshis/fangirls,so,as a representative of the anime community,SJWs are no longer welcome within us
11:03 Some people do need to be reminded to live in reality as well as fantasy, though.
I agree. But that's up to the person and not the fiction.
Revenge lesbian? I played and beat the game, she's more of a shoutacon. xD
"She didn't choose the outfit, the creator did"
No shit
Ya know if everyone played ToB on PC you can get a mod that "fixes" Velvet's clothes. DONT get the WRONG IDEA ABOUT ME. I love Velvet's design. Relax. Just saying on PC there's an option.
Ugh... "fixes"... but good point. I love options.
The internet has some wild opinions about anime
I like her dark theme like in carnival phantasm men love darkness
i think velvet said that she had a crush on a man one time. So theirs only proof against her being lesbian. Just a thought
Last time I checked, high heels were invented and worn by King Louis XIV.
My buddy has Velvet wear her civilian clothes. It does make her look cool.
Yeah this troll seem to be just making excuses to complain.
always thought she had a admiration bordering on a slight romantic infatuation with Arthur but thats just my take on the character could be wrong
I've always felt that the outrage about Velvet's design was too overblown. Far from the worst thing that has been sexualized and it is addressed within the game. Velvet doesn't care what she looks like, but she will care if you ogle her. And she will at you. Thing is that sex appeal is important for marketing, and sex appeal isn't exclusive to men. Anyone who says that women don't get aroused by sex appeal is lying. As many fandoms as I have been involved in, I have seen only a few that are as sapphic as the Fate series.
correct me if I'm wrong but over in Japan wouldn't Velvet Crow be considered a punk because of the way she dresses
Lector Dreadwood Well... nobody dresses like her in modern times.
It’s nice to see the weeb wars in full swing
Mitsuanri94 I don't like the term weeb but yeah there's a conflict going on.
OtakuDaiKun it’s just shorthand for stuff such as these calls for censorship accusations of fascist fetishization and the of course the kickvic snafu. I hope you don’t mind it, it’s just shorter is all.
Mitsuanri94 Understood.
Female empowerment lies in the choice of the woman. If a woman finds empowerment and freedom in revealing clothing, good for her. If she finds it in more modest outfits, good for her. Same thing with choosing between being a career woman or a stay-at-home wife. There's societal forces pressuring people to fulfill roles, yes, but that's why we should celebrate the diversity of all kinds of people.
There's also a thing called reclamation in Leftist theory, where something that used to be oppressive is now being reclaimed by the group who suffered under it. A classic example is the N-word. Bold female sexuality falls under here too.
Yes, this is true, to real people. Not fictional characters.
Even if Velvet "chooses" to wear that stuff she was designed; and even if she was designed by the woman, she is not purely a female's design.
Something that rubbed me wrong on rebuttals of Bayonetta being a sexual object was the argument "she was designed by a woman."
That's not how designs work. People are paid to design concepts from directors who tell them what to make, than approves it. If the director says to design a sexy woman, that's what the designers do.
Designing in games is also collaborative. You have teams coming up with ideas, who are most likely men.
Then you have the programmers and animators that can sexualise the character with animations and camera angles.
Real women can make these choices. Characters are puppets that are made and dressed by people.
Everyone im watching today is reccomending karl and brad , i love those 2 brits , they are the best
Damn now I really want to play god eater ressuraction!!!!! I want see cute Alisa!!!
And I know no man push any girl into this particular hobby even they happy about it. No give time to you feeling. My waifu need my attention to express the love.
was that camera mode in god eater or is this something else
It's a spin off game exclusive to Japan.
@@OtakuDaiKun oh what a pity it looks fun😄
Smoses If you look up God Eater off shot most of it is on UA-cam. It's not very long.
@@OtakuDaiKun thanks i will do that
She's most definitely a victim
Lol
I don't really pay attention to stuff like this because it's becoming a "bigger issue" than it actually is in my opinion. I don't look at what you might be interested in, in general since it kept getting filled up with that stuff. Their fictional characters it shouldn't matter what they wearing because it's not real life so it doesn't matter if game and/or anime physics contradict real life physics because their not real. Sorry for ranting this just really annoys me.
I'm gonna go see walkthroughs of Tale of Berseria (since I don't own a PS4) right now.
I have a let's play of the entire game if you want to try that.
I agree with most of the video, but there's a thing that make me nervous and that's the bikini armor, I can't believe that someone can use that things as armor and my suspension of disbelief just dissapear.
Mia Suarez That's one of those points where you have fun with something you know is ridiculous, unless they're like a god or something.
@@OtakuDaiKun Yeah. It works in comedy shows but I can't take seriously a story with bikini armor, if eveyone is using casual clothes then yeah it's anime and there will be sexy outfits but the armor thing is wath bothers me.
Mia Suarez There are some cases where I really like it. Saber Venus from Fate Extella is a good example since Nero inherits the power of a goddess and it embodies her exhibitionist personality.
What's mostly ironic is that if you mention a fictional character may like the outfit. SJWs will immediately say it's fiction and they don't get to choose. If I ever find myself in that argument, as you have, I will feel inclined to reply back, "then why are you so worried about how a fictional character is dressed? You just admitted to my statement they can't like something because they are fictional, so why are you saying they dislike it?" I know most SJWs try to say things to try and bring reality into it by talking about how a man will think women are supposed to dress that way and act a certain way. I find myself brushing most of it off because if someone thinks for a second that women are grope tools they are in for a shock when reality hits.
Even without anime and video games violence of any nature is going to happen, so I think how a fictional character is dressed is the least of my concerns. Who am I kidding, SJWs are finding things to blame for their actions or for someone else's actions.