Great spiel Mark, long term V10s paddler (called it my lounge chair, son now has it) and lately Carbonology Vault. Have been wobbling in the Vault trying to push ahead in bumpy conditions, thought enough, at age 57, 176cm & 72kgs need to get stable. Tried V9 this morning - wow - I'll never fall out. Went flat out, got it to 11kmh & turned full rudder, really good. Boats turn so much better nowadays. Anyway your video clinches it (I will check Swordfish to be sure) Appreciate the comments on build quality as I've heard about things like bubbling on the newer brands. Cheers
I really appreciated that you compared the roominess to the V10sport and let us know it was definitely less. I find my V10 sport to be just a little too twitchy for me to be completely confident in, but I am a bigger guy, so I max out the cockpit in the V10S. I get the impression the V8 Pro is my best bet in the future.
I’m the same mate, I’m 130kg, wide in the hips and struggle to fit into skis and live very remote. I know I fit a V10sport, the nitro640 was too tight. I’ve been paddling a sipre 575 and it’s seriously twitchy… I’ve become used to it though and there’s nothing better for stability than time in the boat.
Wonderful Review Mark - Thank you so much. I'm 190 cm (6' 3") & 105 kgs and fit into this ski very well although it is a snug fit. I struggle in my V10 and I'm one of those people who has too many numbers on my ski to paddle in the fun conditions. Love this ski. Picks up waves surprisingly well and still performs very well when you have to paddle in the river - Every bit as good as you say it is - an absolute winner...
Thank you, Mark, that was a really awsome and comprehensive review! I live in Brazil and I am a newbie in surfskis. Currently I am learning a lot and getting fitter on a V7. But as I progress in paddling I feel the V9 will be the right ski for me some months ahead. I would also very much like to know the name of the song and the singer the appears in the final seconds of this video of yours. Such a beautiful voice!
Man o man. Started on a V10 Sport (Performance) 10 years ago. Worked hard. Went in my first race. Won the swim leg .... Now getting back into it and I wobble like a jelly fish. Thanks for the review. Just need to find some COVID $$ and I‘ll be done to have a crack. Cheers
Thanks for a comprehensive and competent review of yet another great ski from Epic. And thanks for reminding us to stick with skis which are well within our competence level.
You're on the money Mark. Was paddling a V10 Elite for some years and now just want to kick back and have fun in the surf with my mates without thinking too much about stability. Appreciate the test drive of the V9, its' awesome boat for mine (see what I did just there...) ;-)
Thanks Mark. Great review. I'm a 67 year old guy who has a 2014 V10 (black nose), but I'm now finding it a bit heavy to carry around, particularly without side carry handles. I now do mostly flat water paddling and, whilst the V10 is a little faster than the V9, for me the weight saving (I'm buying an Ultra) plus the carry handles, makes this a very attractive way to keep me paddling for years to come.
great video - great hair - and definitely the lowest hump set up especially for short legged people. I did fit into the seat - fairly snug so most people will fit in being 1 metre tall and 900mm wide
Would the V9 be a step too far for a life long sea kayak(Arctic Raider) paddler? Or would the V8 be a better buy? I'm only really interested in rough weather paddling.
It would definitely be a large step up if you've never p[addled a ski. The V8 would be a getter choice if you want to go out in the waves straight away.
It it possible to use the front handle (or small rope) to swim it past the short break. Probably most concerned about landing it, pearling and breaking it. I used to grab hobie island and swim it out/in. waves , waves usually 3-4 ft maybe.
Yes you could if you wanted. These skis are fast enough to break out though, and fast enough if you know what you’re doing to get in front of the impact zone on the way in.
@@MarkSundin Yes dude, No mentions to other boats of different brands in the same category in flat in terms of avg speed. Correct me if Iam wrong and apologies if I did not pay attention
@@deepbluewaterful mate it’s something I don’t actually care about, I’m the wrong guy if you’re looking for a flat water speed comparison, they are called surf skis for a reason.
@@MarkSundin Ok I see. Me too prefer linking runs mate. But sometimes we ask on social media, also for friends or for other "types" of paddlers to have a wider knowledge about the subject. Not all of us are ready for waves. Thats all. Peace and nice waves
Hi mark thank you for taking the time to post such an informative video. Helps everyone to find the best ski for their needs. How does the v9 compare to the Think Six and Evo gen 3? Thanks for your help.
@@MarkSundin Thank you Mark. I sadly don't have access to the think skis but have tried a gen 2 EVO in the past and really like how the footwell was below the seat.
Hi Mark I've been paddling a fenn swordfish for a few years now. Never 100% comfortable in big windy conditions. I had a back operation last year and now I find the Swordfish just a little too twitchy. Is the v9 appreciably more stable than the Swordfish?
Yes I’d say it’s definitely easier to paddle than the Swordy, a little more stable but with many of the old Swordfish S’s characteristics in moving water.
Hey Mark. Great review mate. First time I've seen a review with the same approach to SS's as me. Its al about the waves. Ive been slugging away on a Finn PE for the last 15 yrs. Living in VIC there is very minimal opportunity to try before u buy. Your review has given me confidence that this is the right choice for me. Im 6'5 and 105kg. Love surfing even in the bigger waves (even at Bells/Winkipop at times). I have no idea how the transition from a very stable sluggish ski to the Epic ski will go. Is the Epic V9 the right choice for me or should i consider another model or brand?
You’d have to try it mate, you may not fit into the bucket for starters. I probably wouldn’t be taking a 12kg ski out in breaking beach surf either, so tend to pull the spec ski off the rack for that stuff.
Hi mate, great video. I'm a small framed paddler. I started off with a V7 and upgraded to V10 sport and I think it was too big a jump for me. It's okay in the flat water, but feel very tippy and big on the rough water. Considering a V8 Pro or V9 and I want to know if a lighter layup would handle easier for a small framed paddler?
Both skis are fine for lighter paddlers, layup doesn't make a huge difference, if anything the heavier ski will sit down more in the water absorb the fizz better.
Never tried a surf ski, and wanting to ride swells out in the deep blue sea. New V5 Rotomoulded for $1,995, V7 rotomoulded for $2,095, or second hand V10 sport for $1999 with all gear?
Hi Guys! Thanks for a good informative video. Paddling a Carbonology Boost today, happy with that, but, you know, fun to try something else. Would V9 fit me, 183 cm and 98 kg?
It would just depend on your hip size. The Boost has a slightly wider bucket than the V9, you’d need to get in one to see. You’re the same size and weight as me so most likely fine.
I want an eddyline 14 style yak that is carbonlite, 19 feet long, 29 inches wide, sit on top, skeg and rudder with cloud 10 seat and only 2k dollars!!!
Great that you’re out in the water in anything that floats. You’re talking about an entirely different craft there, all the best. As to sitting on the seat, I’ve done several 100km races in these craft and you’ve never sat in something as comfortable, the ergonomics favour good posture, and correct technique.
@@MarkSundin surf skis seam very similar to s.o.t. yaks. But more length and thinner and streamlined. I kinda wish I got the v17 instead of the eddyline 14. Inwas just worries about the width. The eddyline is mega stable though it has strong points, good for lesuring and fishing.
@@MarkSundin what I really want to do with a watercraft is paddle between islands. Island hopping in the Cedar Keys, Key West, Dry Tortugas, any near land Island let's say 20 miles or less. I want to craft that will efficiently do that. I road trip in winter time for three months at a time and I usually go to Florida so... the eddyline was about eighteen hundred bucks. The v17 is right around that in the states it's about 1700 on the website. I don't know if that includes the rudder or if that's an extra option. I love my eddyline but for distance it's taxing so I'm looking at what my options are and the v17 looks like the start of what I'm looking for but Man..the price of the V8 in the V10... you got to really want it. I think I'm still in denial phase.
Eddyline has something called a cloud 10 seat which is mandatory for distance Adventures. I can't imagine sitting on that hard plastic From miles and miles.
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I had watched this review before getting a V9 and after having paddled it for over 2 years I can truly say I love it!
Great spiel Mark, long term V10s paddler (called it my lounge chair, son now has it) and lately Carbonology Vault. Have been wobbling in the Vault trying to push ahead in bumpy conditions, thought enough, at age 57, 176cm & 72kgs need to get stable. Tried V9 this morning - wow - I'll never fall out. Went flat out, got it to 11kmh & turned full rudder, really good. Boats turn so much better nowadays. Anyway your video clinches it (I will check Swordfish to be sure) Appreciate the comments on build quality as I've heard about things like bubbling on the newer brands. Cheers
I really appreciated that you compared the roominess to the V10sport and let us know it was definitely less. I find my V10 sport to be just a little too twitchy for me to be completely confident in, but I am a bigger guy, so I max out the cockpit in the V10S. I get the impression the V8 Pro is my best bet in the future.
I’m the same mate, I’m 130kg, wide in the hips and struggle to fit into skis and live very remote. I know I fit a V10sport, the nitro640 was too tight. I’ve been paddling a sipre 575 and it’s seriously twitchy… I’ve become used to it though and there’s nothing better for stability than time in the boat.
Wonderful Review Mark - Thank you so much. I'm 190 cm (6' 3") & 105 kgs and fit into this ski very well although it is a snug fit. I struggle in my V10 and I'm one of those people who has too many numbers on my ski to paddle in the fun conditions. Love this ski. Picks up waves surprisingly well and still performs very well when you have to paddle in the river - Every bit as good as you say it is - an absolute winner...
Nice one mate, it definitely does a lot of things well...!
Thank you, Mark, that was a really
awsome and
comprehensive review! I live in Brazil and I am a newbie in surfskis. Currently I am learning a lot and getting fitter on a V7. But as I progress in paddling I feel the V9 will be the right ski for me some months ahead. I would also very much like to know the name of the song and the singer the appears in the final seconds of this video of yours. Such a beautiful voice!
Man o man. Started on a V10 Sport (Performance) 10 years ago. Worked hard. Went in my first race. Won the swim leg .... Now getting back into it and I wobble like a jelly fish. Thanks for the review. Just need to find some COVID $$ and I‘ll be done to have a crack. Cheers
Great video, I really want one now! I got a Fenn Mako Elite cheap and learned on this, but I struggle in waves... This is the boat for me!
Thanks for a comprehensive and competent review of yet another great ski from Epic. And thanks for reminding us to stick with skis which are well within our competence level.
You're on the money Mark. Was paddling a V10 Elite for some years and now just want to kick back and have fun in the surf with my mates without thinking too much about stability. Appreciate the test drive of the V9, its' awesome boat for mine (see what I did just there...) ;-)
the best product review and definitely sold . excellent job .
Great honest and comprehensive review mate. Tuna with a chine!! Love it!! Time to start saving the hard earned ones!!
Thanks Mark. Great review. I'm a 67 year old guy who has a 2014 V10 (black nose), but I'm now finding it a bit heavy to carry around, particularly without side carry handles. I now do mostly flat water paddling and, whilst the V10 is a little faster than the V9, for me the weight saving (I'm buying an Ultra) plus the carry handles, makes this a very attractive way to keep me paddling for years to come.
great video - great hair - and definitely the lowest hump set up especially for short legged people. I did fit into the seat - fairly snug so most people will fit in being 1 metre tall and 900mm wide
Great review! Love the honesty
great review Chief. thx.
Just pre ordered one.
Would the V9 be a step too far for a life long sea kayak(Arctic Raider) paddler? Or would the V8 be a better buy? I'm only really interested in rough weather paddling.
It would definitely be a large step up if you've never p[addled a ski. The V8 would be a getter choice if you want to go out in the waves straight away.
It it possible to use the front handle (or small rope) to swim it past the short break. Probably most concerned about landing it, pearling and breaking it. I used to grab hobie island and swim it out/in. waves , waves usually 3-4 ft maybe.
Yes you could if you wanted. These skis are fast enough to break out though, and fast enough if you know what you’re doing to get in front of the impact zone on the way in.
Hi nice video mate! Going to buy a v9...but...how it comperes in speed to other boats in flat also?
Umm, did you watch the review dude…?
@@MarkSundin Yes dude,
No mentions to other boats of different brands in the same category in flat in terms of avg speed. Correct me if Iam wrong and apologies if I did not pay attention
@@deepbluewaterful mate it’s something I don’t actually care about, I’m the wrong guy if you’re looking for a flat water speed comparison, they are called surf skis for a reason.
@@MarkSundin Ok I see.
Me too prefer linking runs mate. But sometimes we ask on social media, also for friends or for other "types" of paddlers to have a wider knowledge about the subject.
Not all of us are ready for waves.
Thats all.
Peace and nice waves
Hi mark thank you for taking the time to post such an informative video. Helps everyone to find the best ski for their needs.
How does the v9 compare to the Think Six and Evo gen 3?
Thanks for your help.
They’re all good skis, very difficult to compare brands as they always have a different feel. If you can get in them, go for it.
@@MarkSundin Thank you Mark. I sadly don't have access to the think skis but have tried a gen 2 EVO in the past and really like how the footwell was below the seat.
Hi Mark
I've been paddling a fenn swordfish for a few years now. Never 100% comfortable in big windy conditions. I had a back operation last year and now I find the Swordfish just a little too twitchy. Is the v9 appreciably more stable than the Swordfish?
Yes I’d say it’s definitely easier to paddle than the Swordy, a little more stable but with many of the old Swordfish S’s characteristics in moving water.
Hey Mark. Great review mate. First time I've seen a review with the same approach to SS's as me. Its al about the waves. Ive been slugging away on a Finn PE for the last 15 yrs. Living in VIC there is very minimal opportunity to try before u buy. Your review has given me confidence that this is the right choice for me. Im 6'5 and 105kg. Love surfing even in the bigger waves (even at Bells/Winkipop at times). I have no idea how the transition from a very stable sluggish ski to the Epic ski will go. Is the Epic V9 the right choice for me or should i consider another model or brand?
You’d have to try it mate, you may not fit into the bucket for starters. I probably wouldn’t be taking a 12kg ski out in breaking beach surf either, so tend to pull the spec ski off the rack for that stuff.
what do you think of the Fenn Millenium?
I haven't actually paddled one mate, so I can't help you on that one.
Hi mate, great video. I'm a small framed paddler. I started off with a V7 and upgraded to V10 sport and I think it was too big a jump for me. It's okay in the flat water, but feel very tippy and big on the rough water. Considering a V8 Pro or V9 and I want to know if a lighter layup would handle easier for a small framed paddler?
Both skis are fine for lighter paddlers, layup doesn't make a huge difference, if anything the heavier ski will sit down more in the water absorb the fizz better.
@@MarkSundin thanks for the response. Do you think V10S should be okay for smaller paddler?
@@elroybeauzec4155 yes but it's an elite ski, nothing like the V9.
@@MarkSundin what is the V9 then, more beginners entry level?
@@elroybeauzec4155 that's why I go to the trouble to do a full video review mate, if you watch it you'll be really clear...!
Love it…never see a tuna with a chine👍
👏👏👏
Never tried a surf ski, and wanting to ride swells out in the deep blue sea. New V5 Rotomoulded for $1,995, V7 rotomoulded for $2,095, or second hand V10 sport for $1999 with all gear?
If you've never even tried a ski, the V10 Sport would be a very demanding intro. The V7 is the best compromise.
Hey Mark, good review. You mentioned weight - is the ultra sitting around 12kg or a bit under?
Under for sure, by quite some margin actually.
Hello, Mark. Can you recommend this boat to start in SS?
Covered in the video mate. It’s a long answer
Great review! I'm not sure I want waves up my hooter, though. ;-)
Hi Guys! Thanks for a good informative video. Paddling a Carbonology Boost today, happy with that, but, you know, fun to try something else. Would V9 fit me, 183 cm and 98 kg?
It would just depend on your hip size. The Boost has a slightly wider bucket than the V9, you’d need to get in one to see. You’re the same size and weight as me so most likely fine.
I want an eddyline 14 style yak that is carbonlite, 19 feet long, 29 inches wide, sit on top, skeg and rudder with cloud 10 seat and only 2k dollars!!!
Great that you’re out in the water in anything that floats. You’re talking about an entirely different craft there, all the best. As to sitting on the seat, I’ve done several 100km races in these craft and you’ve never sat in something as comfortable, the ergonomics favour good posture, and correct technique.
@@MarkSundin surf skis seam very similar to s.o.t. yaks. But more length and thinner and streamlined. I kinda wish I got the v17 instead of the eddyline 14. Inwas just worries about the width. The eddyline is mega stable though it has strong points, good for lesuring and fishing.
Yep as I said, completely different craft, for a different purpose. Anything that gets you on the water is a good thing.
@@MarkSundin what I really want to do with a watercraft is paddle between islands. Island hopping in the Cedar Keys, Key West, Dry Tortugas, any near land Island let's say 20 miles or less. I want to craft that will efficiently do that. I road trip in winter time for three months at a time and I usually go to Florida so... the eddyline was about eighteen hundred bucks. The v17 is right around that in the states it's about 1700 on the website. I don't know if that includes the rudder or if that's an extra option. I love my eddyline but for distance it's taxing so I'm looking at what my options are and the v17 looks like the start of what I'm looking for but Man..the price of the V8 in the V10... you got to really want it. I think I'm still in denial phase.
So is the V10 Sport going away eventually ? Nice review.
steveeb yes I believe it’ll only be available as a custom order from now on.
"A few waves up your hooter" 🙇
Eddyline has something called a cloud 10 seat which is mandatory for distance Adventures. I can't imagine sitting on that hard plastic From miles and miles.