BLUES CLUES: CHELSEA MANAGER HUNTING WITH A BLUNT BLADE! DE ZERBI OR AMORIM THE MYSTERY MAN?!
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Younes dead on. Owners act like they know what they are doing enough to dismiss others with actual experience when they are clueless. I said after they sacked TT that their arrogance was going to be an issue. Believe it even more now.
Could not have said it better bro
Absolutely spot on
I like the cameo of Robert, i like his way of thinking even if his ideas may be different of the rest of the panel, as a fan football show it would be a great addition just to avoid the one vision thinking
Idiotic ideas, must say.
Are you serious? Do you want to bring a delusional cameo like that? That guy speaks nonsense. If I hear someone defending these clowns in the ownership who by the way are destroying the club, I can't stand that! Wake the hell up and don't trust the PRocess... 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
It’s funny though
Thank you miz and younes for calling out these owners
They are the biggest issue. Everyone else is a by-product of them.
Great stream! Loved it! Keep it up
@Matisse stop lying, there were more than 5 good matches. Most of the inconsistent performances was due to injuries, inexperience, poor finishing before poor coaching. The mistakes were expected, and Thiago Silva said same in his interview with ESPN Brazil. Both Tuchel and Poch needed time to make mistakes, learn and improve with their squad but several fans and these clowns as owners don't get it. There are no quick fixes with kids!
thanks bruv...people r forgetting we finished 6th.....a massive improvement with a completely new squad.....from last season.....this for me has revealed the reluctance of chelsea fans on waiting for a project....this things take time
@@cloudyjdiketso8750 Is anyone organising any sort of demo or petition? We need to do something quick
And yet his wife was front and center shouting for Poch’s sacking
@@va3023 She said some things needed to change, no names were mentioned. Her husband indicated that the team needed more experience. Watch his last interview with ESPN Brazil
@@kwekuoyirifi6239 And yet we all knew who she was referring to. Even Thiago went and apologized to Poch after her faux par.
Mattisse bro u gotta have time stamps man.
I totally agree. Some men talk for 10 minutes straight then someone else will say something very short only to be interrupt again just to make a point. Just relax and let everybody speak. We can agree to disagree in a conversation. Don’t need to keep interrupting people just to make a point. This fantastic show is better than that.
I can't believe there are Chelsea fans that think like this. How do you justify not having experience 😂.
Ahh good to see Javon again.
The problem is not Poch leaving, the big issue is the candidates list 🤦♂️
The people who are still positive about these owners are the types that still think the jabs were 'safe and effective' and believe the government acts for their best interests.
Good luck guys.
The people who are negative about everything are the kind of people whp will deny their child polio vaccine because they don't believe in vaccines.
Good Pod...We can't all agree, Love to see some disagreement as well..
At the end of the day we all want the dame thing
We need more fans on this! Mandem talk has almost ten ppl!
You are deep deep in the mud my g .. “we are not deep in the mud”, hahahahahah . Bruhhhhh! 😂😂😂
Fair play to Robert for standing his ground
Standing with Delusional thoughts isn't for everyone, so fair play! 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
This is what the owners has caused! Letting fans go against each other
I've been against Miz for most of his points during the season but this episode he has spit 🔥 big up Miz. They'll catch up and clock one day
@Javon, i think you need to fix your mic. Audio is not audio-ing properly with giant mic and headset. lol
Whoever comes in next season..THEY MUST! P.S WTHHH BIG UP ROBERT loool
Honestly, Chelsea are definition of be careful what you wish for
u might just get it
I wonder if they chose those managers on the short list of to slowly seep Di Zerbi through the cracks because he was the direct replacement as the sensus suggested in regards to him dealing with many in this Chelsea team this
Big up to matisse, younes, the miz & javon! The reality now is that our ownership have destroyed our club & whoever the ownership bring in as the next manager is doomed to fail from day 1. We can't trust this ownership. We're done!
When Guardiola took over Barcelona, he had no experience. I believe that's the reason for this delusion from the directors.
Most of the players he coached came through the academy where he also coached. Pretty big difference
Look at the team Pep inherited cmon man, one of the greatest teams of all time. It’s not remotely the same. A young manager taking over an experienced squad with some sprinkles of youth works. Our team is entirely inexperienced, if everyone from ownership down to the ball boy at the club have never won a trophy before (outside of chilwell and Reece), do they really know what it takes? Who’s going to teach them? A better example is Jose in his first stint, young manager who had won with young team. He dominated but experience was needed.
Guardiola is an anomaly, he is an exception to the rule...
Im not sure if i should laugh or cry when listing to MIZ during the show. Mate your knowledge about business seems damn low. The owners do care a lot about the success of the club. Let me explain why. Its pretty easy after all...
They bought CFC for an initial fee of 2,5bil Pounds. By contract they are bound to invest into the team and structur(stadium, training ground etc.) another 2bil. So the invest is 4,5bil Pounds right? If you pump 4,5bil into the finance market you expect at least a 3% anual profit margin. If we accumulate these numbers for the 10yrs the owners cant take dividense nor sell the club we end up close to 6bil. 2,5bil for the club. 2bil further invest and almost 1,5bil lost profit.
So if the club cant be sold for a bare minimum of 6bil after those 10yrs it was a bad investment. If you cant sell it for at least 4,5bil you lost money. So if the club had no success during these 10years do you believe someone would be willing to pay 6bil for it? You wont increase the value of the club by a factor of 2,4(2,5bil initial vs. 6bil) over 10years without the team winning trophies or titles. And at some point in the future these owners want to cash out on their investment. Thats the nature of these cooperations. The pure reason of existance.
Unfortunately though from a business valuation perspective it doesn’t matter if the club is winning or not. The key element will be cash flows, which they can generate with a bigger stadium and further commercial inroads in marketing/ branding, tv rights and player sales . A good example is Tottenham, be around top 4 so your stature in the game does not decrease and then continue to generate cash flows and churn players for profits. The club’s valuation will increase over a 10 year period (3% is like inflation over that time, it will be more than that). Effectively it’s a brand investment than a football one. As a football fan this sucks, PE’s can sometimes run companies into the ground. The only thing that will drive “winning” on a football level will be the ego of owners/board, they will not want to be embarrassed and will want to have some success to show for their decisions, to look smart, etc.
Ok thats your opinion now lets listen to mine on why owners dont care about winning with evidence, owners before joining chelsea stated its not about winning its about ammorising and making profits, The owners at the start called us fans then after 2 years they called us customers so thats in the bin too, The owners said we want to change the u25 model but went against it and brought in a 17 year old and going for more kids, Owners stated we will be winning prems in 5 years when they came in but recently they ve come out and said it depends on the bs data, the owners were sent an email on what is the plan with the squad you brought in and where are chelsea are headed they aired the email whilst evidence show they ve seen them and then used pr to bash those that were curious😂 now tell me where do you see us winning a prem or a ucl with these owners its impossible im sick of it all, only us fans can force them to change the model or get them out and dont give me the bs that they are stuck for 10 years if that was the case they were also told not to take money from the club yet you have todd earning 20M a year equaling to 200M stolen from chelsea there goes the clause😂
On our 5th manager as if all these players were there when Tuchel was available. Almost half of the first team didn't even play under Potter
I remember quotes saying they'll stand with Poch and understand injuries and young players are a factor when he was 11th. That all changed when he was 6th with chest. I understand what Miz is saying
MAH still thinks the government is there to help people.
@Mah as you are having gusts on why not bring in Johnny Minerals?
Matisse seems like the only level headed creator on this panel, he talks the most sense. Younes and Miz are starting to sound unbearable each passing day. How can you go from making videos every single day moaning about wanting Pochettino to get sacked for 90% of the season then change your stance just because we won 5 games. Not even a month ago, when we got battered against Arsenal, those two wanted both the players and the manager out. If you wanted him out at any point of the season, you shouldn't have any complaints with him leaving.
They asked for this sacking all season, now that it's actually happened, it's a war crime for the pair. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Almost like they actively look to find ways to have a moan about the ownership just because they have opinions set about them.
That’s thing the panel is too one sided and Matisse barely sticks up against miz and Younes it gets boring
You’re not even listening to what they are saying lol
You’re missing the point bruv. It’s not about the sacking, it’s about the next guy in line. NONE of them are winners. And we have gambled enough for potential already with the players all 20+ of them, now they wanted to gamble on a manager’s potential when managers with far better CV’s than those who are on the list are still available out there?? That’s just downright unnecessary and stupid
@@Sakib97 crying and moaning why tf would I listen ?
what??..they r not moaning cause poch is gone...they r moaning who the next options are..wtf is so positive and happy about this situation??
My question to the panel. What ca be done look from the outside
Big up matisse for being the only balanced and level headed one holding it down. Miz and younes have just lost thier heads at this point.
They have a right to lose their minds. A championship manager is the favourite. Take that in....
@@e46_gggthe more research I do, the more it becomes apparent that McKenna is very highly rated in the world of football. After seeing the rise of Arteta and Alonso, I’m hesitant to write managers off because of a lack of experience.
@@e46_ggg oh please, mckenna at least deserve to be in that discussion. To have back to back promotion with Ipswich is no joke, show a bit of respect to the game, miz and younes acting like entitle brat is a disgrace, if they are fair they should judge those "inexperience manager" by their football.
@@aidilr.2809 nonsense. The fact that you're entertaining bullshit like this shows how successful the club has been at toning down the club's ambition. The fact they're entertaining an unknown variable like McKenna after two shit seasons says all about their stupidity.
You will soon realise why we have the worse owners in the league mattise is relying on false hope its like letting you ex stay to see what could work the hope is what you rely but the real ones like me younes miz johnny and others can see how evil these owners are
Lampard got top 4 in his first season in the premier league after losing the best player in the league 🤷🏾♂️ I'm not saying get me one of the championship coaches but to 100% rule out them performing and getting the best out of the squad just because they are inexperienced is ridiculous.
Also what are Roberts socials he seems like a sensible guy
The turning point was when the rumors were circulating of Chelsea having to finish in a Europa league position. POCH changed his tactics right after that. Imo he has been sabotaging the tactics due to his fallout with the sporting directors. Directors and fans all knew POCH was not maximizing the squad to its fullest
Alex Goldfish is right. They don't want a manager.They want a head coach. Very American. Egbitchly is a major problem...
Assuming poch is not sacked and we're given this option would u go ahead and say u want him to go????
Big up Robert. Very sensible views. Without Robert, this show sounded like an echo chamber.
This people come in and buy and change everything and said "We know best." Let's see in the coming days "If they really knew best."
Hi guys, what MAH just said is so true! Even though some may have blamed Poch it's the Director's who were at fault! Porch asked for specific players but was given certain profiles who, I doubt suited his system!
@Mah, Why do I have this feeling that the mystery Manager is Brendan Rodgers😂
Ex Brighton gaffer will be our new coach
So I heard Erik MF Ten Haag is about to be on the job market? 🤔
Can Todd Boehly resist giving him a phone call?
IS HE THE SPECIAL UNKNOWN NAME???? 😬
The unknown name is probably Lampard 😅
Remember the big injury list the year before Poch? Blaming him is nonsense when the owners sacked the previous medical team who had been there for years.
Poch team had injuries and that's why some players were played out of position. And you don't expect Poch to pick an academy j player ahead of a first team player.
Fair day .. the way these Directors are managing Manager's it's highly doughtful that a quality/ high rated manager will even consider joining Chelsea! A manager expects (at a new Club) to impliy his style of Football! If the Directors can't handle that why, don't they try Managing CFC?
No manager with any iota of calibre is going to take this poisoned chalice of a job. Because the owners' model is designed for managers to fail, and who then get scapegoated for the lack of success, while the owners mop up financially.
In other words, they’re looking for a yes man 🤷♂️
how are owners gonna mop up with money if we’re losing and staying midtable? we’d literally make less money lmao you guys don’t think anything through
Mate you have no fuking clue what you are talking about. In 21/22 CFC lost +120mil. And another +90mil in 22/23. Thats according to the numbers Chelsea reported by itself.
"Losses before taxation reduced from £121.4m the previous year to £90.1m for 2022/23."
Just google it yourself if you dont believe me. "Chelsea FC 2022/23 financial results". Its posted on our own club website.
Matisse is funny because all those complaints about poch being disgruntled and doing double speak is not going to change. As soon as a manager makes sense of the squad and gets chest, they will disagree with the board
open the livechat mattise
Why not the other way round? What if Poch gave them the iimpression that he was in line with their principles and project just because he wanted the job and then turned around when he got the job and things begun to be difficult for him? Don't you think that is also a possibility? In that case the directors won't be at fault.
You could visibly see Robert’s points bouncing off these guys noggins
Not only did they not get Porch the profiles he was after, the Directors fit them up with 6 - 8 year contracts? Seriously...
Fair comment, why was this Consortium chosen? In all fairness could it have been due to their Sporting portfolio or how much they'd help RA (past owner) to donate to help rebuild Ukraine (has that even transferred hands?)?
The way Chelsea have been playing last season is comparable to Sunday League! Otherwise this Stamford Bridge rebuild (is it just a smokescreen?)! If the owners want to win the Champions League, they must entice TT not JM back! Not only did TT help us win our 2nd Champions League Cup but first ever Super League & Best Club in the World Cups! Understand this, injuries were very minimal, performance at the highest level with the best players!!
TT…..😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The same guy who did jack all with a very good and experienced Bayern Munich. Sure bring him, let’s see what he does with a young team.
That’s even if the owners forgive him first for whatever he did to get himself fired.
There are so many mangers in past and recent times that have done amazing as young up and coming. Many have forgotten Roman tried this method AVB and Frank Lampard.
There are young next gen managers that amazing and there is nothing wrong with trying them.
It does get to a point when managers are no more in style and need to adapt their ideas to exciting footballs.
Yes TT could do it but Jose is a huge doubt.
They will need to be more flexible on style of play. Don’t want to see Wingers as WingBacks destroying their talent.
Sir Alex came from What club to manage Utd?? Pep start manage what team before Barca.
At some point this is going to happen and it’s luck of the draw honestly and if Chelsea strike Gold many will give flowers to the work done.
Yes Poch should have stayed 1 more season cause there are managers out there that young and better than this shortlist and they need 1 more season themselves.
i’m being fed too much at this buffet matisse
They just bought a set piece specialist so next season, we not supposed to have so many goals scoring on us.... No excuses
What is Roberts channel info ? it is not listed in description.
MAH NXT ALL YOU CAN EAT BRING US LEWIS HE HAS MUCH OPINIONS THAT RE NOT ALIGNING WITH THE PANNEL WE WILL APPRECIATE 🙏
I don’t think Lewis does mornings 😅
@@matissearmani too much of the Za Za
The poor guy who takes this job.......
People (including the owners) forget how powerful Chelsea fans are. They may own the club but the fans (through CPO) legally own the land on which the pitch is situated and that ownership is tied to the name "Chelsea FC".
The more research that I do, the more it becomes apparent that McKenna is very highly rated in the world of football. After seeing the rise of Arteta and Alonso, I’m hesitant to write managers off because of a lack of experience. Whoever comes in, they will need to hit the ground running, and really I hope they do.
Moreover, the board, who are making the decisions now, cannot be judged for all of the managerial appointments made since Tuchel. The board have only appointed Poch, the next manager will be their second appointment. They came in after Potter.
poch is the right man to develop young player..but tactical wise he not good enough..also many player got injured in training..last 5 games also he just playing murderball..no dominance except vs westham..
Pochettino is gone. That’s what everyone wants for months. Mediocre media made coach. Let’s move to the future Amorin or De Zerbi we move
De zerbi is so overrated lmao.
What has De Zerbi ever done in his career. The most he’s done is take Potters 9th team to 6th.
And when he had a new players took them right back to 10th place.
Javon needs to adjust his mic . His audio is treble heavy and not as clear as the others
Am deeply suspecting that Eric ten Hag can become Chelsea manager if he is sacked because he love developing youth in my opinion, he might be the Secret Coach to come to Chelsea and I personally I love it , what do guys think? 😊😊😊
Its become abundantly clear now that these owners wants to implement the US style of running a sports team
Where a head coach solely just coaches and the recruitment team recruits
Each job roles done seperately which is weird cause I thought these owners want to "collaborate"
Bunch of control freaks
Understandable... So, why don't they hire me?
On my opinion if not Zebi then it could be Ten Hag , someone who supports youths and talent into first team so Chelsea is waiting to swoop for Ten Hag maybe in my opinion 😊😂
People in the comments are validating Miz’s initial point. They aren’t mad about Poch getting sacked, it’s the circus these owners have created. Goes to show how the PR has infested this club and turned most of the fanbase into arsenal like mutants.
The amount of misunderstanding I have seen over the past 2-3 days is crazy. People are missing the point that it's not about Poch parting ways. It's about why managers are parting ways with us.
RDZ got Brighton 8th without Potter just to let you know so kindly manage expectations with him
These owners/directors showed us they wanted to be in full control from the minute they started going into the dressing room. How can you be so incompetent but yet so arrogant.
whats the point of this 2 hour conversation when we don't even know who the new manager is?
*Job Posting:* Chelsea F.C. Coach, _Not Manager!_
*Qualification:* Young, Gifted but Inexperienced
*Short List:* Frank Lampard, Steve G., Wayne Rooney
Why does Robert catch all this heat?💀
If these young player experience coaches like mourinho,or conte ,TT ect.Then they would never tolerate a down grade. Thats the very reason these owners will never let it happen. Also they would lose control. Abviously they want to dictate to a puppet coach. In a nutshell
God it’s like listing to 2 babies crying and Mah
Miz arsenal point is invalid. Arsenal had a stadium to pay off, so they had to sell their best assets every season. And Arsenal never spent 100m on players to sell them on (this is where chelsea will lose money)
Chelsea didn’t have to adopt the arsenal approach, mainly because they don’t have a stadium to pay off…. But the Arsenal model is one of the most efficient models
Robert needed someone like me to help him out with his arguments. Would love to have a discussion with the panel because i feel like there's so much context missing and so many disingenuous arguments about everything. Listen i don't like what the sporting directors have done with the appointment of Poch. But has anyone ever thought that maybe Poch did exactly what Mah said and lied? Look at how he sold US fans snake oil in the beginning of the season! Look at what he did at the end! Based on that football and the end result the recruitment got the hire right didnt they? Poch has a lot more to blame on this than what is being said on the panel.
Damn, johnny minerals was right all along
echo chamber of “WHY DID WE SACK POCH” when half the panel were screaming for him to leave lol the chelsea fanbase stinks but atleast mah is the level headed one
It's not about Potch it's about who we're replacing him with, we got rid of a prem proven and UCL proven manager although a bottlejob and now going for a Division 2 manager, surely that terrifies you? POTCH ain't an elite manager but come on, he's a miles abetted option than a championship manager 🤔
@@dimitryanyanwu7681 no it doesn’t terrify me because i’m not a reactionary teenager, i’ll act accordingly once we find out who our manager is
I've never known of someone to have too much sound proofing on their mic it becomes too echoed
Xavi just got sacked I want him so bad.
I feel like Matisse is on the Chelsea payroll...sad
Younes and Miz big up
Nah, he’s just level headed unlike the other two miz and younes who ramble on about the ownership without any sense of perspective of why we are going for these new gen managers.
Or the brother simply has another opinion. What happend to agree to disagree 🤷♂️
@@batt3mar222why dont Man City try to go for "nEw geN mAnaGers" and desperate to stick to proven winner? Why dont we go for top Tier coaches? How can Championship manager win something on a high level? Is Chelsea now a training base for them?
Wake up and smell the coffee. Owners turned the club into money machine, they dont give a damn about results
@@nickmatv791When pep leaves what do you think they’ll do? Or even Madrid with Ancellotti? Get an ‘experienced manager’ like Jose or Enrique or Flick? Course they won’t. Top clubs acknowledge that football is changing and are preparing for that. New managers are emerging and clubs are looking to capitalise. Young managers who are in it for the long run need to take their first big club opportunity at some point. Look at liverpool with Slot. If he comes in and Liverpool remain a top club I don’t want to hear anything about ‘experience’ ever again. The guys on this pod are deluded if they genuinely don’t believe that any of the coaches on our shortlist can’t come in and do well. As well as that saying they’d rather have a manager with ‘experience’ when their tactical outlook of the game is outdated. Honestly so clueless. Fans don’t know what they want until something is given to them and they realise they like/dislike it, me included. So why right off McKenna, Thomas Frank or Di Zerbi when they could come in a prove us all wrong
Chelsea are going through the shitlist. What shortlist? 😑
Yo, listen up! I've got the perfect solution for these owners. Instead of wasting time and money hiring a new manager, why don't they just step up and become the managers themselves? Next season, let's give Eghbali a shot. If that doesn't work, we can try Boley the season after. Problem solved! If they want to have a say in how the team plays and who's in the starting lineup, this is the best way to do it.
This panel needs a different perspective. It’s too one sided
All these begs begged for Poch out. Now they are crying he is gone and our options are championship managers lol
Imagine Poch overachieved
Hall of fame performance from Miz. My man was cutting WWE promos 😂 big up lads👊🏾
Hahaha thank you bro. Love it!!
Younes and Miz just need to go outside and get some air. Chelsea is on the right path. We need to back new owners, players and the coaches. We are only two years into these new regime. We have already been to a few cup finals in two years. We have technically changed our whole squad since they came on board and we are starting to see how special this team can be. Poch stabilize the team now we can get a coach that can carry the team forward.
Oh man what are you saying we are talking about have elite manager why we link to championship manager and they said we want ucl no let get elite like xavi tuchel
Man the guy’s mic is off, why cant he place the mic the right way or adjust it to talk in it. he cant be heard clearly
Sarri?
MAH and Younes you guys have it pegged no manager will be successful at CFC because we suck big time in the basics of owning and managing a football club
And any sucessful coach with any regard for their reputation should never consider joining CFC this club is where they will die on the vine
Miz, even under Roman it was Head Coach and not a manager. Why is this a great issue now?
Am not MIZ but will add my POV. The issue is NOT the “head coach” it’s the LEVELS of the head coach!! ELITE LEVELS vs NOVICE .. there were very few deviations from that under ROMAN. Chelsea had ELITE players that could overcome average coaches. We don’t have a squad that can do that NOW hence the problem !!
this new one lowers the level of the panelists.
I don't understand this poch had a poor season, he got 63 points which is enough for top 6 in 6 of the 10 years. Saying it's the last 5 games is so disingenuous. Because in the last 5, we are joint top of the table. Then saying we were 10 most of the season is the same as saying city were 3 most of the season. The games against burnley and Southampton were awful but every time has bad games I'm sorry, it can't be a justification for you guys to discredit us coming out 6th, furthermore at the beginning of the season we didn't even have a shirt sponsor. I feel you mans are underestimating how hard we had it this season.
Miz "if you are in 16th, but do what the owners want, you are still in the job".
Utter nonsense.
JAHVON spoke!!!! bare fuckry a gwan...
Potter was chopped for poor results. These owners want results as well
Surely Matisse can surround himself with smarter Chelsea fans than these? Younes and Miz speak like they have the education a 14 year-old
Instead of insulting me, why don't actually put up a comment explaining what is it that you disagree with me?
No one is discussing the solution
Miz talking rubbish saying he will have lower expectations for McKenna however Lampard had less experience and he demanded same expectations from him. Hypocrite
The amount of simping for these owners and directors in the comments shows the PR machine has paid dividends for the club and as a whole, the fanbase is in that arsenal range of delusion.