Death Ship - Twilight-Tober Zone
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- "Death Ship" saw the return of one of the great Twilight Zone directors and several on screen stars, but did the space drama deliver where other extended installments failed?
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I liked it, and the ending was wholly unpredictable.
The twist blow my mind when I first saw this episode. I never saw it coming
Hm? This plot promise remind my really good movie Moon.
It’s sad for these three men, forever stuck in limbo because one of them cannot except the fact he’s death preventing himself and his two men from crossing over to the other side to be with their families
Agreed,and I’m kind of upset that the captain decides not to accept it and let his crewmates pass on. That is just mean and absolutely cruel.I mean,dude maybe it’s probably dying to let go?! and that’s also just pretty Douchey to be honest why was this guy chosen for the mission?!
The distant future of 1997. That's great. Usually when people get all futuristic in their shows, even in the past I see them jumping two years in the 2000s but this one just went straight for the 90s.
They were really optimistic that we would be exploring space within 40 years
In another episode, "On Thursday We Leave For Home," the colonists landed on the planet with two suns in 1991. Since they've been on that planet for thirty years, that means the story takes place in the year 2021!
@@melissacooper8724 I love when shows do futuristic episodes and do years that we currently live in, like when Bicentennial Man did the year of the future in 2005
Like the original Lost in Space took. place in 1997.
Jack Klugman was fantastic as the captain that simply refused to believe what he saw, because it wasn't what he wanted to see. Kind of a lesson in that I think...
I think the reason Klugman's character resisted being dead is because his afterlife would be complete loneliness. He has no one to go back to
You have a point. The other crew members had loved ones waiting for them. Klugman's character never went towards the Other Side at all.
They ARE in the afterlife at least the afterlife for them. It's a sort of looping limbo they've unknowingly created and by the time the crew figures out what's what the loop resets to the part we see at the beginning of the episode. Something or someone tries to help them by temporarily pulling them out that limbo but because the captain keeps rejecting the fact they're all dead they get pulled back in where the whole thing starts over.
This is one of my personal favs. So eerie and disturbing. True twilight zone excellence.
It’s definitely in my top 3.
I love how many sci-fi shows from the 50's and 60's thought we'd be at jetson level technology by the year 2000. They had an awful lot of confidence in us didn't they?
I felt sad for them at the end of this episode. Like in one of the twilight zone intros the captain couldn’t see past the pit of his fears or the summit of his knowledge.
Nice tie in. :-)
I never would have seen the twist ending coming. The three men are doomed to relive their own gruesome discovery of their corpses, due to one of their in abilities to accept their deaths.
Dude! Spoilers!
I keep thinking of the movie Ghost where Patrick Swayze's character saw his lifeless body in Demi Moore's character's arms!
I felt differently about the ending. I actually thought them being dead was too obvious an answer, and that Captain Ross was the odd one out, whom no one would listen to. I thought his iron will would end up paying off when the others realized that something else was going on entirely. I was rooting for Ross because even though he acted like a jerk, I felt he was just trying to keep his crew from succumbing to despair. While the ending wasn't the one I wanted, it was still interesting, and I quite liked the episode.
This series remains consistently entertaining despite the variable quality of the episodes. Top notch 👍
I can think of exactly four S4 episodes that ARE worth the extended length, and Klugman, Ross Martin and Matheson are the reason this one is.
The "Second-act wander" actually contributes to the story, adds clues, and makes us more sentimental for the two supporting characters to emphasize Klugman's TZ twist of karma.
Death Ship was one of the creepiest episodes,the twist ending hits hard and so heartbreaking.
It does leave one with a bad feeling, after watching it.
Death Ship was the first season 4 episode that I felt like 100 percent earned it's extended run time.
Jack Klugman is in this one. He appeared in three other Twilight Zone episodes and he was Juror number 5 in 12 Angry Men!
Oh yes, I thought that he looked familiar. Thanks for letting us know.
@@trinaqYou're welcome. I love 12 Angry Men.
@@claytonrios1 Likewise, I watched it for school, and I was blown away by the tension, despite it being mostly dialogue driven.
I remember seeing 12 Angry Men in my 10th grade English class. I thought the story was too slow paced. I do remember Henry Fonda was Juror number 8 in that movie.
In all seriousness, Ross Martin is one of my favorite actors, period. He is the reason I love The Wild Wild West (TV show. The movie can burn in Hell). I love him in the series Mr. Lucky, which I discovered just due to my admiration of him. He emigrated with his parents to the US when he was like three years old and didn't speak English until he was something like 7. He could speak something like 5 different languages and originally got his law degree before deciding to pursue acting. And, as I said, he is one of my favorite actors, period.
I loved him in the TV show The Wild Wild West! Mainly because I always wondered what disguise he would come up with next!
Definitely my favorite of the hour long episodes, and one that truly makes good use of its extra time. The shots where the crew encounter their "doubles" are very well done, if not perfect. Yet again, we've got the spaceship -- and costumes -- from Forbidden Planet, but who cares.
One thing that's interesting but you may not notice unless you've watched it a couple of times: Ross, the one crew member who does NOT believe they're all dead, is the only one NOT seen with his dead body. A few reviewers, including Marc Zicree, noted that Ross seemed to be the ONLY one making suggestions, and that Mason and Carter have little to say and very quickly accept anything Ross suggests. Many considered that a flaw in the episode, but I disagree. After all, Ross IS the Captain, and it is clear that his influence on his men was very strong. It's only at the end when Mason realizes "You're all out of excuses, Captain. There's only one left, and you know it." But Ross will never accept that answer, and he will never let his men accept it either.
Ross's influence is so strong that he can - without even realizing it, probably - inflict himself on his men's "fantasies," always pulling them back to the ship. With Carter, it is only Ross's voice, but with Mason, Ross actually enters the "fantasy" and physically drags Mason back. It's an interesting shift, and while it comes across as moving the goalposts, it does demonstrate the power Ross has over his men. No wonder Mason and Carter are quickly convinced that everything is all a fantasy - Ross told them so. I always wondered what precisely Ross saw. Mason's "fantasy" was particularly interesting - it is clear that Ruth knows the truth. When Ross entered the scene, there is no terror in Ruth - only anger. "Why is Ross here?" is the only question she has. Why has Ross inserted himself into THEIR heaven? Ruth can see the power Ross has over her husband, and her fear is that Ross will take him away from her yet again. Which, of course, is what happens. It's a very well filmed sequence, especially when Mason sees his daughter - you know that Jeannie MUST be dead because nothing else would have evoked that emotional response that quickly. Ross Martin sells the scene perfectly.
There is even a little foreshadowing at the beginning. Early on, Mason seems to realize that something is wrong - he doesn't know what, and he truly can't understand his premonition, but it is obvious that it's there. Ross is even more cross than he usually is. It is clear that the men respected their Captain, and at several points, we see that Ross deserves this respect. But something has changed that. The crew may not consciously understand what, but there IS something. And when they discover the crashed ship, the first thing the men can think is that they ARE dead, and Captain Ross, like the good captain he is, tries to reassure his men: they are NOT dead. They can't be dead. It's got to be an illusion. The men hear what they want to hear, what they HAVE to hear. It's only at the end that they understand that there are no longer any explanations. And the last scene repeats the opening, except that the lighting is darker, showing how the men are trapped in their own private hell. A latter-day Flying Dutchman, indeed.
This is a very well done episode, and the actors really sell it. I liked Jack Klugman as the martinet Captain Ross, and this is definitely one of Ross Martin's finest performances. I actually had little problem with Fred Bier's performance - he's the young turk of the crew, but he's believable throughout. He is a member of the crew, not the helpless fool, nor the comic-relief. He is rather the innocent, but still well trained. Note the sequence where he is checking the planet atmosphere - Bier doesn't overplay that scene, and it works. I loved this episode.
It's not really a hell but more of a limbo that's looping over and over. Since they never retain the memories from the previous loops they're not tortured because each time they land on the planet and find the crashed ship it's like they're experiencing the loop for the first time.
You're curious about what the captain sees. The captain never catches a glimpse at his own afterlife because he won't accept that he's a dead man but I think sometime between seeing his dead body and the loop reseting he knew the truth.
Great episode!
This is like The Bermuda Triangle, but set on an alien planet, where not everything is as it seems.
This is a good episode, and I saw it in reruns on the SyFy Channel once, and I liked how Rod Serling mentioned the Flying Dutchman a ghost ship people have seen on the ocean sometimes in relief🙂👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯.
Something tells me this episode was the inspiration for the 'Tempests' episode of 'The Outer Limits' several decades later.
Possibly, but I doubt it. By the way people he was discussing The Outer Limits reboot.
What are your favourite episodes of the reboot Outer Limits ?
Probably one of the creepiest episodes of The Twilight Zone imagine you're trapped there I'm will Captain just won't let you go or rest in peace
I would say this is one of the best S4 episodes
' Distant year of 1997 ! " Heh .
Hi Guys another Twilightober episode!!
won't lie, this one really creeped me out when I first saw it. And that was only last year! Something about being trapped in a time-loop like this just....it's worse than death man.
I think the creepiest original Twilight Zone eps include this one as well "Night Call" from season 5 (that may be THE creepiest!), "The Hitch-Hiker" and "Mirror Image" both from season 1, and "Twenty Two" from season 2.
“The distant year of 1997.”
Why can’t movies and shows ever be ambiguous about what year they live in?
Brazil is.
One of the season 4 episodes well worth watching where you get invested despite it’s length.
The Date Ship may be an odd title on Prime (along with how they show alotta episodes out of order) but given the story takes place in 1997 it can be fairly appropriate.
Having lived during that year I remember it very vividly!
I seriously thought “oh no” when the captain said we gotta go back
These videos keep getting better! Love this month! 🎃🎃🖤🖤🧡🧡
I love this The Twilight Zone episode!
A twilight zone episode with Oscar and Artemus Gordon is great.
Nice review when I just wanted to add that one of the odd things about this episode is you are never really given a final and definitive answer as to what's going on later on when you pick through it it just gets more mystifying😂
Love this episode. Reminds me of a condensed first half of The Martian Chronicles by Bradbury
If this were "Wild Wild West" I'd expect to hear Mason say "He's dead Jim!" Mason's abruptness and level of compassion might have made him the "Doctor McCoy" of this show. but He's dead too!
Bruh imagine you're dead and your boss still makes you come in to work with him
When actors are shown double in the shot, you can actually see where line that divides two shots is. Left side is noticebly lighter than the right side. Thanks to this, you can basically see a line in between lighter and darker sides.
All the time ? It looked better in "In His Image".
He's Alive is my personal favorite of S4 and sadly more relevant today!
He's alive and they're dead, real nice lol.
This is one of my favourite episodes.
I like this TZ episode. But one thing I noticed while watching your take on it was that the newspaper clipping showing the wife and daughter of the one crew member, have them wearing the same clothes as in the dream sequence. Not sure if that was on purpose or an oversight.
I think it was the clothes the wife and daughter died in. And it wasn't a dream sequence. The other members noticed his absence from the ship.
I remember this episode creeping me the hell out as a kid
0:14 The date ship sounds like a lost episode of Futurama or a sci-fi reimagining of the love boat
1 of my favorites of the hour episodes. Very VERY spooky.
I feel like there IS a way to escape the loop, simply forget about getting a sample and leave the planet. As long as they don't return to the surface the loop can't repeat itself. Everyone gets what they want, the crew can leave and whatever sentience doesn't want people to colonize their world is free from their influence.
Too bad, it's the captain causing the loop.
@@oraclemiraiAnd each time the loop resets, they have no memory of it. By the time they find out, they've already crashed.
Jack Klugman is sorta of a regular performer on The Twilight Zone. A very underrated actor, imo.
I love this episode. The ones with Jack Klugman amazing.
When you get past the first half of this one, where basically nothing happens, there's stuff to like here. The twist is predictable but they start playing off that with some decent emotional stuff. The ending hits well and it’s a solid take on this twist we’ve seen a fair bit before. If this were a normal one, it may have still stretched it but it would be more compact and hit harder. As it is, it's fine, just has stretching in the first half or so.
Matheson also wrote an episode of TOS : The
Enemy Within .
I put this one in the top 5 of season four episodes. It’s length works to enhance the story and character development.
Yes. This is my favourite season 4 episode
Man i wonder if you'll guys do the 1st remake of Twilight Zone?
What a interesting and intriguing episode from this series
Ross Martin looked the youngest of the three actors. However, he was actually the oldest, being two years older than Jack Klugman and 7 years older than Fred Beir. Martin was also the second to die of the three in 1981, after Beir in 1980 and before Klugman in 2012.
This episode is set in 1997. Jack Klugman was the only one of the three actors who live up to that year, passing away in 2012. Fred Beir passed away in 1980, while Ross Martin passed away in 1981.
Season 4 presents us with an interesting variety of authority figures. Klugman's character here contrasts effectively with the well-meaning and empathetic captain in The Thirty-Fathom Grave. Then we have James Whitmire's tragic Captain Benteen in On Thursday We Leave For Home (my personal favorite episode of S4), a charismatic figure who grows more and more unhinged.
I need to rewatch this episode and pay closer attention to Ross Martin. I know him best as the comic villain Baron Von Shtupp from The Great Race; his turn here would be a stark contrast.
The poor crew they want to move on to afterlife but the captain refuses to move on now that sad
Love the spaceship chairs!
PG rated😂
Number 28 episode. Not classic, but good. Might have been better if the Captain had let the other crew alone in their "dreams". The continued arrogance of his character was annoying. A disturbing alternative to "Nothing in the Dark"😢
For me, "Death Ship" is easily a first tier episode. Jack Klugman's performance as the ship's commander, Captain Paul Ross, is somewhat slighted here as being too heavy-handed, and out of line with his other three appearances on _Twilight Zone,_ but I'd argue that, if anything, it goes to show his range as an actor. And it's not it's the first time Klugman had played an excitable character prone to losing his patience; in fact, those traits helped define two of his best-known roles in popular TV series--the messy Oscar, who roomed with and was constantly being nagged for being a slob by neat freak Felix in _The Odd Couple_ and the title character, a forensic pathologist who was often correctly challenging the official findings of homicide investigations, in _Quincy M.E._ The two shows were popular and critically acclaimed, with Klugman a standout who won two Primetime Emmys for the former and was nominated four more times for the latter. (Even one of Klugman's other _TZ's_ performances shows his grouchiness as part of the character arch, and that's up-and-coming hustler Jesse Cardiff in "A Game of Pool".)
Early on in "Death Ship" his portrayal of Captain Ross as the hard-nosed realist who does all he can to keep the crew of Space Cruiser E-89 from jumping to what he perceives as ill-founded conclusions. After all, they landed their craft safely on the planet's surface, and sustained no injuries, much less died. They inspect their dead bodies on the crashed ship, and discuss what transpired, but Ross does all he can to talk them back off of the proverbial ledge, assuring them that there has to be a reasonable explanation for what they appear to be seeing, since it's not plausible that they'd be having discussions if they were dead. At this point, Ross is still the voice of reason, assuring them (and maybe himself) that there must be a more satisfactory solution than the morbid one.
However much overall I like this review, I must push back pretty hard on Tober's dismissing of Klugman's performance. On the contrary, Ross' gruff interactions and friction with the other crew members, especially with Lt. Ted Mason (terrifically played by Ross Martin) are crucial to ramping up the drama, as the captain becomes more and more unreasonable in his resisting the grim truth staring him right in the face. Indeed, Captain Ross's toughness as played by Klugman is critical to the ending, as he stubbornly insists on retracing the steps of seeing the blip, going down to investigate, and reentering orbit until they "get it right" (that is, until Ross is able, he vainly hopes, to solve the mystery).
In regards to my favorite opening _TZ_ scenes, about which I commented for the "In His Image" episode, I must include "Death Ship" in that category. I just love how it all starts with a blip on the screen, leading them down to the surface, where they see the wrecked ship. When the crew go into the spacecraft and discover their corpses is truly shocking, powerful stuff, especially watching it for the first time. There are so many memorable scenes, such as when Mason is meeting his wife again in the other world, only to be physically grabbed and dragged back to the ship by Ross. Or where, near the end, after Ross has expounded his "telepathic aliens" theory, he has them land again, this time to show that they've overcome the "hallucination" of the crashed E-89 will have vanished. Upon touching down they head to a window, and after sliding back a panel so they can see out, no longer observe a crash. It looks like Ross may be vindicated after all...but wait, going to another window, they again slide back a panel, and there it is in all it's totaled glory!
I absolutely rank this as a top tier episode, and nothing anyone's argued has been able to dissuade me. Solid acting all around, well directed, another brilliant premise from Richard Mathewson, & excellent special effects and score (even if the latter is stock music, it was still well chosen). What knocks it down from top tier? I don't see a single aspect of "Death Ship" that negates such a rating. (Btw, I don't have a problem with the title, though some people think it gives away too much of the plot. Not really, because even though we see the bodies at the start, it's not entirely clear that the "living" crew members are already dead, or if there's another explanation. Yes, there are dead bodies on a ship, but what the plot behind the plot?)
woah, thanks for going into how the actor and the girl actor worked together before and the divorce. that's some good trivia!
Reminds me a lot of one of the better Red Dwarf episodes. One of the crew even looks like Arnold J Rimmer!
Ross Martin was amazing. He had a phenomenal range. In this episode, he is likable and relatable. But in the Colombo episode “Suitable for Framing” he plays one of the most despicable killers in the series.
I love these, all of them that you post such good insight you’re just about spot on with my feelings about the episodes how I see them thank you so much for doing these
In "Triangle" (2009), same theme is explored.
I’m pretty terrible with faces. When I binge watched these TZ episodes before, i had a hard time telling If actors were in multiple episodes. But Jack Klugman had such an affable and distinct Jimmy-Stewart-esque presence that I always immediately recognized him whenever he appeared on TZ.
0:35 You can see the wires holding the spaceship.
Wow, that’s actually pretty amazing!
Especially for the time I’d imagine.
~_~
always nice to hear about matheson's work
I just saw back to back edpisodes of Twilight Zone, "On Thursday We Leave For Home", followed by "Death Ship". It was a bit confusing ---
When "Death Ship" began, it looked like the same flying saucer from "On Thursday We Leave For Home", but I soon realized it was not a continuation of the prior episode(I stepped away for a moment to fill my plate with scrambled eggs). Looked like they reused the same uniforms also! How optimistic that we land on other planets in 1991 and 1997. Funny! Yes, and a return trip in 2021. We ain't done it yet!
But I remember in school in 1960 that we had book that showed that in 1970 we would have atomic powered flying cars! Ha! Now it's 2024 and we're still waiting...😂
One of my faves from TZ season 4.
This, the thirty fathom grave, He’s Alive, and On Thursday We Leave For Home are the best of season 4.
Also lol at the typo on prime
Man, this was a depressing episode. Three men crash onto a familiar planet, see their dead bodies, and hallucinate their old lives. I feel sorry for them.
Except it seems it wasn't a hallucination, rather them surviving was.
They weren’t hallucinating, they had crossed over out of purgatory.
"In the year 1997,"
Yeah, they're hoping to get back to earth so they can catch liar liar in theaters.
It's really sad how the two men would wan't to accept death and join their loved ones, but the third is so stubborn and won't accept the idea.
It's really amazing how just one man's disbelief can not only hold himself and two other men back from crossing over into the afterlife but also keep all 3 stuck re-living everything that lead to their deaths. Just one man's disbelief.
Should've been called "The Hell Ship", because that's what they're technically in.
Honestly, just because the episodes are longer doesn't mean these reviews need that as well. After a few of them I am confident to say that they drag and I am often skipping or playing at 1.5 speed
3:50 “Everything is chrome in the future!”
This was a good one
One Of My Top 5 Episodes.
I was just thinking it has been awhile since we saw a tie-in from Forbidden Planet!
Remember when everyone wore metallic clothes? Twilight Zone remembers...
The setup kinda reminded me of the Refractor crew predicament in IDW's Spotlight: Wheelie, though the twists are different.
1997 !? WOW, the same year as the first Men In Black movie.
Ross Martin and Jack Klugman carry this episode while the third actor... eh, acts over the top. I kid of course. It's hard to compete when you're standing on the shoulders of television giants like those two.
As for Richard Matheson, while I didn't like his last episode "Mute" at all, I'm glad he ended his Twilight Zone run on a high note with "Death Ship". Liked the atmosphere and payoff. Very creepy.🛸
I was literally thinking that we hadn’t heard about forbidden planet so far this October and never mind.
How did they look unscathed? They found their corpses after a horrible crash and they’re not only in perfect condition after a crash that killed them, but there’s no decomposition.
Because to them it's happening in a loop so the only things they can see are what happened before their shipped crashed and their bodies wouldn't be decomposing right after the crash. What we're seeing is what they've been going through for months or maybe years but to them it's like just happened only an hour ago.
I missed this video.
I was looking forward to seeing this episode.
I wish we were already in space since 1997. 🤣🤣🤣
Jack Klugman appeared in a lot of TZ episode.
Always liked this one, but felt it could’ve been edited down quite a bit.
Death ship? Woah dude I can’t believe there’s a twilight zone episode about the kutsnetsov
And the moral of the story is . . . don't be an astronaut.
Is there he's alive episode going to get unage restricted?
This one was sad. No spoilers but Ross is believable here. Cynicism dooms reality in the episode. I can remember Ghost Whisperer kind of tackling the same topic but in a more morbid outcome.
I enjoy this episode. It's not as grand as some other episodes but it is really like The Big Tall Wish. Stubbornness and Cynicism ruins everything.
Hi everyone!
When I first saw it, I didn't really see it as them already dead and not wanting to accept it. More that it did involve time travel and they could escape it. But now...
I have a slight problem with the Twist, the three men are trapped in the repeated cycle of denial.....but if they really did see their families in the afterlife.....they are an outside variable that shouldn't be bound to the logic loop so they could easily free two of the men through trial and error, this isn't a time bubble for these guys, so this isn't as much a endless cycle as the plot wants it to be
Next Jess Bell. Interest to hear what you think of it
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Makes me wonder if the game Returnal pulled from this.
I loved this one but it disturbed me. I took it as an unique take on heaven, hell and limbo.