It would be really lovely if they start actually bringing out quests for the old players that have levelled up so much. It's kinda gets very boring when you Ve got no quests and and people cause so much trouble with groups their clubs. Especially going around bullying people because they Ve got so many players in their clubs they go around blinking other people it's really disgusting actually. I Avoid clubs.
I actually wanted to buy that black coat. The funny thing is: you can't buy it unless you worked on your reputation with New Hillcrest. They put an item into that discount-shop, which the players in that beginner area have no way to be able to buy. Genius.
@@wendymurley9872 It’s not about that. They put it into a shop on Moorland, where non-Star Rider players are playing. Why put an item on sale, which requires a reputation those players certainly don’t have? They have no way to get this item, discounted or not. I am not saying they should have remove the reputation requirement. I say they putting it into that specific shop is shady.
@@wendymurley9872 “Become a star rider! 🤓" You say that like it’s an easy thing. Even with codes, starting from bottom up and questing to get new hilcrest unlocked takes a LONG time. Months even! “Well you could just buy it” No you can’t, some people aren’t allowed to spend money on a game, or have enough to spend over $10 a month, or pay $75 for a digital game. Sso is neglecting their players, and all for what? Sales. They want money that’s all they care about.
I honestly think that if they lower the price for starcoins, then a lot of people will buy it more because its less expensive. Like I only buy star coins once in a year because of the terrible prices. So yeah I kinda think SSO would make more money by lowering the prices.
I sometimes wonder if there are any commercials and marketing professionals in the SSO team. When you know that they don't even have people hired to do the quests in the game, you'd think that their business strategy is to hire as few and as unqualified people as possible so that they don't have to pay them too much.
Okay but on a serious note, I did comment on their Instagram telling them WHY exactly their double star coins offer that they do on a monthly basis was NOT an exclusive Black Friday sale. I also told them what they could have done to fix it for the next time they did this. Like lowering the price by 10% for that weekend, back to the original price, or maybe even a 20% discount on the 10k SC ONLY deal, to encourage people to buy that offer instead.. But legit as I was scrolling through the comments we had people making fun of each other for "being poor and not being able to afford sc", and sending death threats to the team despite the fact that the people who manage their social media have no say in what offers are put out regardless of how we feel lmao. I'm honestly baffled, its terrible to see the community attacking the team AND each other at the same time, and while a lot of us don't like what SSO did, theres no reason to take it this seriously. Just say what you think about it, tell them how they can improve, and move on.
@@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic Agreed, I have 0 friends on SSO, and I don't get on SSO to socialize with people. Almost every fandom/fanbase im in is full of toxic psychopaths that find happiness in making other people feel like absolute garbage. Denise is right on so many levels, our generation is so lost 🙄
@@yukiiasakii9758 Agreed with everything except for the 'our generation is lost rhetoric'. I mean, have you seen some of the older Star Wars fans for example? This is purely a human/fandom thing.
The sso community sucks ass its not a new thing. Hostility towards sso everytime they post anything. I get it some complaints are valid but most are just cherry-picking. Like wtf if you hate the game so much, deinstall it
It would be good if Star Stable didn't ignore everyone's criticism about the prices. I mean most of their audience are children, how are they expected to pay that much without stealing their parents' credit card?
Well, saving pocket money, wish money for christmas or birthdays. I think kids should learn that they can't have everything right now if they want it. It's a good lesson, especially now, since everything gets more expensive. It's important for them to learn to budget and prioritize where they spent their money. Is it a cheap toy every week, or save it longer for star coin or a new gaming system? It's their choice. Desicions have consequences, if you buy something expensive you have to wait again fore some time to be able to spent money in something expensive again. It's how I grew up. And plase, don't steal any credit card. It will be discovered and you probably won't be allowed to play SSO for a long time. You can maybe look for a summer job instead.
@@stellasternchen Not everyone is living in a financial situation where just saving up pocket money is a decision, because there might not be any pocket money to be had. If "save up and get a job" is your answer, then you should take a look around. Being able to get a job is a privilege if I've ever seen one, on so many levels. While I understand and agree that young people need to handle money in a better way overall, it's not really that easy for all of us. Those of us who have it tough are the ones who get hit hard, not the "lazy" ones.
@@cantaloupix9753 Hi, I don't know why my answer to you got deleted, I guess because I put in a link. I understand what you are saying. Not everyone can afford the prices. I was not aware that the job situation might be different where you are. Here some shops are searching desperatley for students able to help out. But if money is that tight, it is probably wiser to not buy virtual currency for an online game and rather go for free ones. There are some with horses if you search for them. But yeah, something is wrong in the system, the gap between poor and rich is getting wider. But unfortunatley only the politicans can change something, or charities can help out. But that is another topic. The world is not fair. But to blame SSO won't help it. Inflation is also there in Sweden, currently 7% I think, so they have higher costs as well. I guess I already sound like a granny. Kids these days... You know.
@@stellasternchen I live in Sweden and while inflation is kicking everyone's asses, including my family's, I'd rather blame the cost of electricity since we have that crisis if I were to pin the blame on outside factors. System aside, SSO is employing tactics that are driving away players and in the end making them less and less money. It won't help anyone, no one wins. They are digging their own grave in numerous ways, which I'll gladly blame them for until the day.
@RosesAreRed🌹 You are right, I should have specified not generalized. I don't know where you live, there are different systems for those in need. But in my opinion this shouldn't happen. In my country, parents get a certain ammount for childeren each month. Every parent. If the ammount is enough, is a different question, with the crisis now. there is a different programm paying for an affordable appartment, if the money is not enough, and if you have no job, you can collect unemployment (arguable not enough in inflation) and medical expenses with reason are covered as well. I see that not every contry has that safety in place if you fall on hard times.But honestly, no child should go hungry. And no paren't either. Thank you for opening my eyes how lucky I am being born where I was born. Of course I don't mean those children, that are that unfortunate. But some are really spoiled, I have the feeling, but on the opposite spectrum, where parents are well off. I'm sorry If I offended anyone. But in any case, if you search for old games, you might find some older horse games, that might be a good alternative for free. You can even find the old Star Stable games. They might have not the best graphics, but maybe can make some people happy that can't afford SSO. I mean you don't need to support them, if prices are too high for your opinion and budget.
I think the weirdest thing about sso is how they started a lot of projects in the game but... forgot about them? Like what's with the forest trees around silversong river? Or dinovalley in general? They started updating the old areas and then just... forgot it and stopped. Everything that made the game has stopped and the game is entirely a different one now, reason why I stopped playing a year ago. It's an empty horse training/racing game. And that is not a game I started playing. Edit: also I think all the recoding and updating graphics is just a waste of time and money for the company. At this point they would save so much time and possibly money by just remaking the game
I don't see that as a discount as discounts mean that there's something *off price wise* and that's more like "here's another way to pay" than a sale/discount, its a little dirty.
SSO prices are damned high. I wish they would understand that, but as long as they corner the marker, it will never change. Devs who make horse games, do, unfortunately exploit the passion of players. It's sad and I hate it, but as long as we are THIS passionate about horses, they will always be able to make money off of us. I am happy to know that the community is putting its foot down XD Great video, as always!
I absolutely love your humor and respect your opinions you have always been the angel in my book. You are just honest which we need more of in this world.
6:18 I thought that too, but then I realized that the expensive ones there are mostly stuff that we could buy only with star coins before. So they just added that we can buy it with shilings too.
Originally, I bought the lifetime account (it was 72 bucks at the time). I had a whole entire discord server that was dedicated to my sso club, and that I've had some fantastic experiences with. Even so, I had to leave this game behind because of the problem with the prices and just generally misleading customer service. I've been here since around 2015, and its so stupid how the creators are being so blind to the actual community. Like not aging the game with the audience for example (I know its technically a kids game, but since its been around for so long the original audience has grown now). This is my childhood game too, and was also one of the last things my dad and I shared and laughed about together. So I want this game to grow and better itself. I appreciate you making this video, even if people hate it, because sometimes people need to think about WHY someone feels angry, instead of just immediately getting defensive about a game they love.
@@BitterCyder I said SSL--StarShine Legacy--which came out in 2005 and is the predecessor to SSO but features similar locations and characters. It's literally my childhood. I've been with it longer than most of the players because I got SSL at launch.
Thank you! I thought I was going crazy for feeling how I do about this game. I played back in 2015, came back, sold all my old broken horses, and got 10k in money so that I could buy two pieces of tack or clothing? So then the black Friday sale was announced, and I got excited thinking I could afford something...I was so wrong lol I don't want to see the game go downhill, or the community turn against each other, but something has to change!
how much i agree with you is almost scary bro- i agree with basically everything you talked about in this vid, i just hope star stable takes notice as this game is too my childhood, (i started playing in 2015 also!) luckily the winter update seems to be a bit better than last year... guess we will have to see. love u bro lets be besties lol (edit: i dont use tik tok for those reasons you mentioned alone smh)
There’s a difference between being realistic and being negative, you’re always being realistic with your viewers. Also I have the dapple gray Arabian, and I just bought the speckled Icelandic from the Black Friday sale since I had some saved up
Honestly what makes me even more angry are the social media influencers and UA-camrs praising SSO for every little thing they release and defending them for everything. Obviously a company that just wants money is going to deny any wrongdoing…but there are so many UA-camrs and popular players encouraging sso and telling them how amazing everything is!
You can always count on Dennis to say what no one else will, and honestly I think the SSO community is specifically looking for drama or things to complain about because they have nothing better to do with their day.
But the community will speak about and has been, but there certain player that will shut any kind of criticism down, not matter is it’s valid or not. They turn the people that actually care into haters… We have been complaining for years and it keeps going on. We shouldn’t act like no one is saying something.
I agree with you completely it’s just sad how they don’t pay attention to any of there players. I understand the whole money and wanting it, but lower the prices, of a lot of things. I do agree the graphics are getting so much better. But I feel there was no point on doing the Black Friday update if they weren’t going to lower the prices like A LOT. I find it very sad at how and where the game has become.
I think the hats were 149sc and you couldn't buy them with shillings, which is why its called a sale... but its still super expensive for a HAT. imo no item of clothing should be more than 9k considering the cap is 10k anyways i agree w every point u made
@@dragu_la Yeah... Even more so, its not much of a discount if its lowered a little, they need to do better if they're gonna start following these types of events for quick cash grabs.
kinda wierd that sso put a black friday sale a few weeks before the christmas update, ( with 2 new horses mind you ) like they want you to buy a horse, then to realise that you dont have anymore star coins for the limited time horses that come with the christmas update, meaning you most likely wil buy star coins.
That’s almost exactly what happened to me 🤧 I had forgotten the TWH were coming out, so I bought an Arabian bc they were cheaper, so now I can only afford to buy one horse and not 2 like I had planned (the TWH and Icelandic Special Horse). Pretty smart on their part, but frustrating nonetheless.
I love your videos so much. Also they change the bunny race, with updated bunny's and no more having to click on the rabbits. honestly I hated that they did that. clicking on the bunnies actually made it more challenging. now that race feels too easy now.
I’m glad to hear you say that sso and rdr2 can’t be compared regarding price. Because sso, as an mmorpg, SHOULD be more expensive than rdr2. Because mmorpgs are more expensive than triple A games. The team behind rdr2 worked under a contract lasting x amount of years, until they achieved a final product, and then they’re done at Rockstar and they don’t get paid anymore.they have a final product of which they can put a price-tag on, and estimate beforehand how many copies they have to sell to break even - and then some. The team behind Star Stable will, as an mmorpg, technically never have a final product. Star Stable is CHEAP (what??) compared to other mmorpgs in the form of offering a Life Time membership, giving you the opportunity of not being tied to a subscription service. I’m amazed by the fact that they still offer this, and there’s a reason why other mmorpgs don’t do this: Because they won’t earn enough money from it. And Star Stable needs paying customers, constantly, to maintain servers and update the game with new content. Maybe Star Coins would be cheaper if they stopped offering Life Time, but I’d rather pay more for sc once or twice a year than having to pour money in to the game every month to be able to play it. You could argue that RDO, with its online functions, also has a server that needs to be maintained. But the argue falls dead on the fact that Rockstar for one is a huge company who has better income elsewhere, and secondly that rdo is, in fact, dead. Another significant factor is the lack of competition for sso. But I’m hoping that’s about to change. TOTALLY support the opinions about their Black friday deal being shit though. The people who can’t afford star coins on a normal day was left disappointed yet again…
… To put things in to perspective: My boyfriend has played World of Warcraft for 10 years. There’s no option for a «lifetime subscription» in WoW, so to spare some pennies he pays for 6 months at a time. That’s $155 for one year. Over ten years that equals $1550. On top of this there’s other micro-transactions for in-game currencies. He’s probably spent well above $2000 on WoW, and if he wants to keep playing the game for ten more years… Well then double it. This comparison isn’t totally fair, because WoW has a much bigger player base (+ they’re older in average)and the game in general is much bigger. But it’s a more fair conparison than any triple A game out there.
I will say, I loved the quest we just had to do (granted I was 3 “instances” behind so I spent an evening doing it) but it felt like an actually meaningful, forward moving quest FINALLY and the upcoming winter update looks amazing with beautiful magical horses. I also encountered a glitch with the Star Coin discount between the app & desktop. Overall I think they could’ve done better & made WAYYYY more money with this update. But, I prefer they pay attention to main story quests, the map, and making the winter even worthwhile 🙂
It's honestly SO ridiculous that a single horse costs a minimum of $30, which once you get it to level 15 there is really not much more progress you can do with it in game. Meanwhile other AA gaming companies such as Fortnite, Apex, Overwatch, etc, charge only $10-$20 for a skin that is highly animated. You can also a buy a battle pass for less than that and get other limited skins. SSO treats the community as if we're stupid and will continue giving them money no matter what just because it is "the only horse MMO". It's extremely predatory and corrupt when you consider that SSO is a game designed to cater toward CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS. So they're basically trying to rip off parents money. They could have done 20% off ALL horses in game, but they probably never will due to their greed.
If they were actually trying to make a good Black Friday deal that players enjoyed rather than a quick scheme posing as a BF Deal, they would have either: 1. Discounted current and popular items (especially updated tack and clothes, not those crunchy looking saddles, shirts, etc) 2. Offered some sort of shop/seller that allows you to pick any horse in the game (that's still in the game) and you get ONE horse for 50% off. Then the rest, if they wanted, could be restricted based on breeds. 3. Offered HEAVY discounts on SC or SR that we would ACTUALLY never see except on Black Friday. Double starcoins deals are not special anymore when they come out at least once per month... What about a TRIPLE starcoin deal? A 'get a horse of your choosing for free with certain bundles' deal??
We (hungarians) didn't have chat for like almost two years. It just censored out everything and the community just died. I wanted to play but i just couldn't because there was no chat to communicate with others :((
Glad to know, that im not the only one mad about the new prices..like bro, 4 euros, FOUR for 100 star coins, is that even real??? they must be kidding..Like before was like 2 euros max or so, thats good price, like sso has probably more players now than before, why they increase the fuckin prices, like wtf.. i was fine paying 50 euros for 10k sc, ok but now is like almost 10 euros more.., before, it was like idk 45 euros? just ridiculous like you just said.. almost 75 euros, for a one time pay account when it was like 50 or less before..they dont put 4k sc on buying a one time pay accs anymore..just 1200, or 2400...And now, the 30% discount man, thats still like 50 euros still!...just insane..Specially the star cins prices just NO WAY.. PD: ALSO..the prices of the clothes and saddles etc fuck theyre so expensive.....Plus dude i dont get WHY they keep making clothes and saddles and etc with NO STATS AT ALL, like wth?..i dont get the point in doing that
5:58 Funny thing is every time I see that Firgrove saddle pad I think of weed leaves I refuse to believe anyone who says that they don’t look like weird deformed weed leaves 😭
Loved this video so much! And i'm so sad that people can't listen to other peoples oppinions like AT ALL, bc they get so mad and stuff. But i'm so happy to watch your videos Denis, bc all u are doing is just being honest and is a really kind person. And i really appreciate your hard work on your videos
Even though the sc prices are very high, it is dope that they have double sc weekends and a lot of offers that if you buy the ig bulk pachages of 1000 sc and up, they often have offers where you get tack, clothing or pets.
And I think compared to other games where you can buy in-game stuff which is cheaper than the expensive sc, those games belong to a bigger compagny that develops more games and also earns money from merchandising a lot, like EA games and Rockstar Games who have 2 major, bown up games with multiple versions (RDR and GTA). I also wonder if those 1600 people worked on that game all at once, and maybe among those 1600 people there were also PR workers, doing PR for other games at the same time aswell. That is a lot of speculationg, but if this is the case it makes sense why RDR can make their buyable stuff cheaper. compared to SSO, owned by Star stable Entertainment AB, who also have multiple games, but only 2 are online and still being developed (The apps and SSO) Sweden is expensive as hell (at least to other europeans) so they have to earn a lot of money to pay their employees a normal salary and they barely earn from merchandise.
I never approve of death threats and toxicity. The fact this is happening on such a huge scale should really be a wake-up call for SSO though. It's happening for a reason, even if it's not how people should act.
I AGREE WITH THIS WHOLE VIDEO👍 Sso could just be so much better if they were to lower the starcoin prices and heard the community's voices. I really appreciate you being so honest and straight forward. I just don't get why people get so upset hearing other people's opinions, like everyone has there own opinions, why do ppl get so upset when someone shares there own? Get over it.
YOUR VIDEOS ARE ALWAYS NICE! I was in your stream a year ago and that is why now I have YT channel you are the one who make me do it or I would never upload videos thank you so so much.❤️
Sigh... I'm just so dissapointed in this company. To treat your community, the people GIVING YOU THE MONEY like we're just wallets is fucking idiotic. If you lower your prices, more people are more likely to buy them which means you'd get more revenue overtime than you would with people buying Star Coins, let's say once a month or once every year. I love Star Stable, but the people in charge of this game is fucking sad. To raise your price this much yet rarely give your community anything to do in the game? Big Yikes. Once people realize that the money spent in this game is no longer worth it, the people giving the money is going to leave. This isn't some small company that needs more help money wise, it's a HUGE Multi-Million Dollar company. I understand you have to pay workers and for the computers, etc that you need to use for said game, but there is still no excuse for a Multi-Million Dollar company to be raising ONLY 5K Star Coins to bascially $20 away from $100. It's Greedy and Selfsih, and although they got better at listening to the community from the past, it feels like it's going backwords. I'm kidna done with this game, and I have slowly been moving farther away from it.
This game pushes 'get the latest thing' too much! New horses and tack far too often and next to no new full quests or in game content. People play to buy the newest thing and that's it.. it's embarrassing ! For 5000sc (10k double sc) is near £50 which for pixel horses and tack (which will be out dated by the next horse release) is sickening
I totally agree Star stable is a great game and is online which most horse games cannot compete with with a few tweaks they can be back on track eg male characters in sso and change prices if possible and minor details but your humour makes this 10000 % better and you show the reality that a lot of people sweap under the rug thancks for more amazing content ( also i mean who wouldn't wanna be a dinky rat i mean come on ) xx
Yes sir exactly! It's kind of sad to see how the white knights and fake sso youtubers just ignore the high price, they might say something like "but it's a company" bruh, like you said comparing sso to other games with far more developers that still can pay everyone who worked on it and get finance. It's just embarrassing tbh. I have no idea what is going behind the screens w sso team cause they won't show us anything, but they gotta do something quick.
Bruh I was so confused when I saw the mustang there, also for the same price as other, polished gen 2 horses, like they could at least make them cheaper... It's not a terrible update and arabians are on a really good price but still more impressive as a business decision than a good contribution to the game. If everyone spends their star coins now they won't be able to save up for new (amazing btw) christmas horses which will force them to buy sc again :)
I totally agree about the Friesian, it's just nowhere near up to the standard of the other horses that were released around the same time... though I seem to remember hearing that whoever animated that was no longer working at Star Stable. I could be wrong. I hope things turn a corner for the game, I'm cautiously optimistic with the recent updates, although I am a little concerned about what's happening with the original lore and the reviews so far I've seen about the character update. Love the snow though!
Also, not related to the "Black Friday Update" (it was barely a BF update if you consider that double starcoins are not special, the items discounted are close to trash, etc) but WHY IN THE FLIM FLAM FLYING FECK are old gen1 and gen2 horses still full price??? I don't care anymore if they don't have an updated version yet or not but it should be downright ILLEGAL for SSO to charge 900+sc for a chunky abomination of a mustang (just to name the first breed to come to mind) when I can get the gorgeous Belgian Warmblood for LESS??? The moment the game graduated to gen3 horses (the Connemaras), all prior breeds should have been discounted a bit, and then discounted WAY MORE when they're heavily updated versions came out. And I think some of the gen1 and gen2 horse breeds that have had gen3 updates still haven't seen reduced prices so that's another tragedy upon tragedy, lmao
I love Star Stable, honestly it’s an amazing game, but I just cannot progress with it. I don’t have star rider and I can’t go anywhere because of all the side quests are unreachable. And that’s literally what the game is, a pay to win game.
I agree with you and about the mustangs aswell even though yes they are quite crusty i do love them not becuase of nostalgia but becuase my favorite breed is mustangs irl and im hoping sso doesnt ruin them when they get remodeled lol they better let someone who knows what there doing remodle and animate the horse ;-; and with all the other breeds to come in the future. love your videos
I've been following the SSO drama for years. Same as The Sims franchise. It's astounding how brainwashed people can become. SSO likes to price itself as a triple A game, when they can't even compare themselves to Alicia Online - A FREE racing game with better graphics and horse models. AO might be just racing with nothing else, but the movement and mechanics for the horses and how they race is mind blowing ngl. It's so so so hard for games to get horses right. The only games that have achieved close to perfect are AO and RDR.
I’m so glad I’m not the only who compares the two! Literally before I started watching this, I was watching satch on sims review of some sim packs; literally both companies are identical. Both companies are just a corrupt corporations that are just trying to make a quick buck. I will say though, EA is slowly, VERY slowly, getting better. After all they did make the base game free, but that is just one tiny tiny improvement.
@@bluesky2925 Honestly, the only reason they're trying to do better is because people are FINALLY calling them out on all their BS. There's always been the ones who did so, but we were in the minority. Now though, with Paralives in development, those once blind to or ignoring EAs problems are starting to open their eyes.
The Sims comparison is so true. Money hungry owners who make the base game free (currently) but to enjoy the experience, you have to buy a hundred dollars worth of packs, and you still get bored of it.
I haven't spent any SC's for about 2 years until the Black Friday sale with the double SC's happened. I bought the W12 Icelandic pony. The buckskin with the white underbelly. The clothing's not all bad looking, but it's still all VERY expensive and some what not worth touching, unless you're desperate for better clothing. Also, a lot of the clothing in the shop can't be used by the lower leveled free-2-play people because of the level gaps with almost every item and reputation if it calls for it. I think that SSO was trying to maybe bottleneck the newer players into maybe getting a membership or something? I didn't realize this before cuz I'm a higher lvl player (who's been around for ages) in the game with pretty much all my reputation finished. But, a fellow by the name of *@Yula568* mentioned that newer players can't even buy the Icelandic's because you require more reputation with New Hillcrest. It's a not so funny joke for the newer players. SSO still feels like a greedy leech, even during their Black Friday sales week. But I will admit that for the 1st time in a while, I'm actually going to be getting a bit excited about the Christmas update. I just hope they don't drag it out like last time.
I honestly love this video. Star stable would be such a better game if they actually listened to their players. Also, I’m absolutely in love with the horse Isla SparrowFoot is on around 2:52. (If anyone knows what horse this is, please tell me.)
The prices have always been too high from the start. Especially considering the age group that generally plays the game. It's not so bad once you have the lifetime membership and you save the free weekly coins to purchase a horse but when you spend actual money on a horse that they won't update for free after changing the model 3 times and then making all new tack obsolete for your old model it is a rip off. If they were truly a fair company they would offer for old purchases to be either updated for free or let you sell that old model for at least half the star coins back so you can purchase the updated model. Some say they won't give the option because "some" people want to keep the old one. I'd argue that those people are few and far between. Some of the old models look extremely bad and out of place in the updated Star Stable world. Even if they didn't look bad new tack doesn't work and they aren't going to win any race against a newer model because the animations are vastly different which does effect speed. So what someone ends up having is a stable full of unused horses. It's not right.
red dead costs 60 USD (57.54 euros). the fact that lifetime SR is TEN DOLLARS more than that just flabbergasts me. RDR2, a game aimed at an ADULT AUDIENCE and that has at least 80 HOURS of gameplay (probably more, considering all of the extra missions), is cheaper than an online horse game for CHILDREN. SSO needs to get their act together fr
i just wish they would use the *MILLIONS* they make yearly to actually improve!! Newer computers, younger people with fresh ideas, revamp this crusty company and actually IMPROVE. But what do they do? Wallow in money, raise prices of starcoins, and refuse to listen to the community trying to help them. At this point, what can be done? I’m tempted to cut my losses and quit. It’s not worth the money.
this generation is so lost lmao everyone only cares about their opinions and if anybody has a different one from theirs omg it's the end of the world. one of the reasons why i quit this game. it's like everyone is a child now.
As a high school gamer who rarely goes on sso, scarecely spends money on it, I think this update is amazing I mean come on. when do you get a discount on horses? especially Arabs. we need to be grateful for the effort the team put on Come on ppl. Thanksgiving was literally like last week, what were you expecting from a "holiday" that is only for one friday? 😑... I completely agree with you, Denise. there is a difference between giving hate and giving criticism to help the team out
The Black Friday sale irritates me so much cus it didn’t affect the Jorvik shilling prices it only lowers the star coins prices. So like it’s not like they changed much, and yeah I get inflation is a thing but I remember before inflation I had to pay close to $40 for a horse and it’s not like the horses are anything special there just skins lol. Even EA doesn’t dare to charge $40 for one skin at least not today.
This is just sad. Star stable is so money hungry!! I wish they would just stop shoving horses down players throats and get more teams to work on main story quests. Improve and fix the game in general. So sad that players are leaving the game because they can't afford to continue playing. The tack and horse prices are just terrible. And these horse sales they have going on are even more maddening with the fact that its old models or coat variations. I was hoping they would maybe give more weekly star coins for star riders but looking at what's happening now i know that won't be happening. Needed this vid! Thank you 🐎🐀
I love your channel because you always speak the genuine truth. You aren’t afraid to speak up about these serious issues with SSO. Thank you. 🐀 I agree with everything you are saying. I may quit sso soon. Not entirely, but just not log on more then every few months. Maybe I’m just picky but.. the new sso characters look like trash. The Tennessee walking horse doesn’t represent the breed at all.. I don’t like what sso is becoming.
As someone with limited income, there is no way on gods green earth I am forking up like $20 dollars for a singular HORSE, the microtransactions in this game are SO predatory it's ridiculous! Even if I was a child it was hard enough asking my parents for $5 subscriptions to a video game once a month, let alone just outta no where "grandma can I have $20 to buy this new horse that came out in video game?" LOOOL. If they are struggling with making money then I can see why! More people would buy starcoins/subs if they were cheaper = more money in the long term vs, the occasional adults who spend like $100 on the game every 3-5 months when a new horse comes out, KIDS DON'T HAVE THAT KINDA INCOME???? jfc.
So, something else I though worth mentioning is, Star Stable is a sweetish company. So, they use euros, euros are worth more then the American dollar so it would make sense that we would have a higher price. Although, star stable makes a crap ton of money anyways and based on all the money they’re making, the difference in the dollar shouldn’t be so drastic as to practically double the price for Americans or anyone using the US currency. I’ve also been doing ALOT of research on star stable, their game play, game mechanics, etc… Some people may think I’m just staying a conspiracy theory, if you do, whatever, your choice. Anyways, there’s been some evidence that star stable is using computer power to mine for money (in code), (it’s difficult to explain in deep detail). This would explain why your computer is burning hot and the fan turns on when it seems you’ve only been playing for around like, five minutes. The mining uses computer energy and power so when you log on, they immediately start mining (in code) in your computer. It’s another way for them to gain money. Some of you may have been there for the GameGuard update. GameGuard was supposed to protect against viruses and bugs in the game and frankly, it seems like they rolled back the GameGuard system due to the fact that GameGuard was protecting the game (and our computers, laptops, etc…) from getting mined (in code). I noticed when they were using the GameGuard system, the fan on my computer would turn on much later then usual and it wouldn’t be burning up in the first ten minutes. Pointing towards the theory that GameGuard was intact keeping them from mining. Anyways, that’s my assumption based on the data I’ve gathered and researched. Take it or leave it, your choice, either way, have a nice day! ❤️❤️ (Love your vids)
I think dropping the price on the Icelandic was nice because it IS popular, but it would have been cool if they’d dropped the level accordingly. My second account is level 7 and could not get most of the costs. Meanwhile, I have them all on my level 20 account. The DSC was not a deal. The tack and gear were so high I was disgusted. It wasn’t worth it. And they’re not even nice sets for the most part. They are almost all dark and dingy and it was a serious letdown. My only remaining compliment is that the halters you get using BLACKFRIDAY2022 were cute.
I definitely agree with everything here. I don't log in anymore unless I see an update that's quest related, otherwise...meh. I do hope eventually sso will understand where players are coming from and idk just put more effort in gameplay. I've been playing since 2014 and ig it makes me sad to not feel excited to play any longer
oh my, thank you for the love on my comment! i do feel the same about people leaving hate comments and just disrespect when people have an opinion, how could somebody do that to someone! i wish people could understand when someone has an opinion on a horse or just an update they dont like and think that '' oh ur ruining the game for others!'' like come on! EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION! 😂
I started star stables when I was in elementary and I begged my mom to get me the life time star rider, and one time I went on to play and my life time star rider was gone and the next month- I couldn't login into my account- so I quit- plus the game is hungry for money
When I first started playing I would always say stuff like "I wonder if I will still be playing Star Stable when I'm older" but I highly doubt SSO will still exist in 10 years sadly.
Honestly cannot agree more 🐀 Love your videos cause u always explain why u might not like something but u don’t hate on the game Tbh I think they are step up there game the quest we got last week was incredible But honestly all we can do is give our opinion and hope for the future Can’t wait for 2023
that is so true and starstable has been removing my starrider now 3 times I have payed for the onecs pay 2 times and I will not be paying anymore for the game
SSO does care about their players. In 2012 when I was like 9 I told them I couldn‘t afford the star rider membership and I basically trauma dumped the support and how this game helps me escape reality. They ended up giving me 1 month star rider for free and I was so so so happy😢
When i did the pay once star rider a couple of years ago it was discounted for like $74.99 before tax so i could imagine it would be like 80 or 90 right now. Us citizen btw. This inflation is really making me consider leaving the game not to mention how they keep releasing horses instead of fixing the games mechanics. They have enough horses and make enough money from that.
I’ll still call light grey horses white just cause it’s easier. I mean it has a white coat like I get it doesn’t have pink skin or what ever but I’ll still call it white cause it’s quicker and easier to explain to non horse people
@@stellasternchen when I’m actually explaining something to people who wanna learn about horses I’ll teach them the difference between a light grey and a white horse. The only things that some people do that annoys me alittle is call a white horse albino and call any young horse a colt.
I didn’t think the update was bad but I mean they could have changed something’s about it it’s smart from a business standpoint but kind of bad from a customers perspective I miss how it used to be when it was about fun and not about spending so much money
As a Gen Z, I totally agree, and something these people, who are probably 7, or at least act 7, dont understand that SSO also has to make money, and advertise. They have staff to pay and Bill's to pay, just like anyone else
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Oh my goodness you're on the same sofa as me you're on The Australian server. I am player 22. When you're on it we should hang out.
It would be really lovely if they start actually bringing out quests for the old players that have levelled up so much. It's kinda gets very boring when you Ve got no quests and and people cause so much trouble with groups their clubs. Especially going around bullying people because they Ve got so many players in their clubs they go around blinking other people it's really disgusting actually. I Avoid clubs.
I actually wanted to buy that black coat. The funny thing is: you can't buy it unless you worked on your reputation with New Hillcrest.
They put an item into that discount-shop, which the players in that beginner area have no way to be able to buy. Genius.
Why should people get it when others have worked for it.
@@wendymurley9872 It’s not about that. They put it into a shop on Moorland, where non-Star Rider players are playing. Why put an item on sale, which requires a reputation those players certainly don’t have? They have no way to get this item, discounted or not. I am not saying they should have remove the reputation requirement. I say they putting it into that specific shop is shady.
@@Esty568 Become a Star Rider. Problem Solved! And that is where the sale items were placed!
@@wendymurley9872 “Become a star rider! 🤓"
You say that like it’s an easy thing. Even with codes, starting from bottom up and questing to get new hilcrest unlocked takes a LONG time. Months even!
“Well you could just buy it”
No you can’t, some people aren’t allowed to spend money on a game, or have enough to spend over $10 a month, or pay $75 for a digital game.
Sso is neglecting their players, and all for what? Sales. They want money that’s all they care about.
@@wendymurley9872 you're so simple minded it hurts
literally grabbing popcorn rn
Same xD
I am eating fries.
Samee lol
Grabbed some peanut butter also put 231st like.
Same Lmao
I honestly think that if they lower the price for starcoins, then a lot of people will buy it more because its less expensive. Like I only buy star coins once in a year because of the terrible prices. So yeah I kinda think SSO would make more money by lowering the prices.
I was thinking the same thing
Same
I sometimes wonder if there are any commercials and marketing professionals in the SSO team. When you know that they don't even have people hired to do the quests in the game, you'd think that their business strategy is to hire as few and as unqualified people as possible so that they don't have to pay them too much.
@Seph X it’s because of the economic crisis in SSO’s headquarters country
I’ve literally not bought star coins In 5 years bc of prices
Okay but on a serious note, I did comment on their Instagram telling them WHY exactly their double star coins offer that they do on a monthly basis was NOT an exclusive Black Friday sale. I also told them what they could have done to fix it for the next time they did this. Like lowering the price by 10% for that weekend, back to the original price, or maybe even a 20% discount on the 10k SC ONLY deal, to encourage people to buy that offer instead.. But legit as I was scrolling through the comments we had people making fun of each other for "being poor and not being able to afford sc", and sending death threats to the team despite the fact that the people who manage their social media have no say in what offers are put out regardless of how we feel lmao.
I'm honestly baffled, its terrible to see the community attacking the team AND each other at the same time, and while a lot of us don't like what SSO did, theres no reason to take it this seriously. Just say what you think about it, tell them how they can improve, and move on.
This is just why I openly choose not to interact with most of the fanbase of pretty much all of the things I love.
@@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic Agreed, I have 0 friends on SSO, and I don't get on SSO to socialize with people. Almost every fandom/fanbase im in is full of toxic psychopaths that find happiness in making other people feel like absolute garbage. Denise is right on so many levels, our generation is so lost 🙄
@@yukiiasakii9758 Agreed with everything except for the 'our generation is lost rhetoric'. I mean, have you seen some of the older Star Wars fans for example? This is purely a human/fandom thing.
@@VibingMeike Im just speaking from a general standpoint when I say "our generation is lost". But yea some people in fandoms are another breed lmao.
The sso community sucks ass its not a new thing. Hostility towards sso everytime they post anything. I get it some complaints are valid but most are just cherry-picking. Like wtf if you hate the game so much, deinstall it
It would be good if Star Stable didn't ignore everyone's criticism about the prices. I mean most of their audience are children, how are they expected to pay that much without stealing their parents' credit card?
Well, saving pocket money, wish money for christmas or birthdays. I think kids should learn that they can't have everything right now if they want it. It's a good lesson, especially now, since everything gets more expensive. It's important for them to learn to budget and prioritize where they spent their money. Is it a cheap toy every week, or save it longer for star coin or a new gaming system? It's their choice. Desicions have consequences, if you buy something expensive you have to wait again fore some time to be able to spent money in something expensive again. It's how I grew up. And plase, don't steal any credit card. It will be discovered and you probably won't be allowed to play SSO for a long time. You can maybe look for a summer job instead.
@@stellasternchen Not everyone is living in a financial situation where just saving up pocket money is a decision, because there might not be any pocket money to be had. If "save up and get a job" is your answer, then you should take a look around. Being able to get a job is a privilege if I've ever seen one, on so many levels.
While I understand and agree that young people need to handle money in a better way overall, it's not really that easy for all of us. Those of us who have it tough are the ones who get hit hard, not the "lazy" ones.
@@cantaloupix9753 Hi, I don't know why my answer to you got deleted, I guess because I put in a link. I understand what you are saying. Not everyone can afford the prices. I was not aware that the job situation might be different where you are. Here some shops are searching desperatley for students able to help out. But if money is that tight, it is probably wiser to not buy virtual currency for an online game and rather go for free ones. There are some with horses if you search for them. But yeah, something is wrong in the system, the gap between poor and rich is getting wider. But unfortunatley only the politicans can change something, or charities can help out. But that is another topic. The world is not fair. But to blame SSO won't help it. Inflation is also there in Sweden, currently 7% I think, so they have higher costs as well. I guess I already sound like a granny. Kids these days... You know.
@@stellasternchen I live in Sweden and while inflation is kicking everyone's asses, including my family's, I'd rather blame the cost of electricity since we have that crisis if I were to pin the blame on outside factors.
System aside, SSO is employing tactics that are driving away players and in the end making them less and less money. It won't help anyone, no one wins. They are digging their own grave in numerous ways, which I'll gladly blame them for until the day.
@RosesAreRed🌹 You are right, I should have specified not generalized. I don't know where you live, there are different systems for those in need. But in my opinion this shouldn't happen. In my country, parents get a certain ammount for childeren each month. Every parent. If the ammount is enough, is a different question, with the crisis now. there is a different programm paying for an affordable appartment, if the money is not enough, and if you have no job, you can collect unemployment (arguable not enough in inflation) and medical expenses with reason are covered as well. I see that not every contry has that safety in place if you fall on hard times.But honestly, no child should go hungry. And no paren't either. Thank you for opening my eyes how lucky I am being born where I was born. Of course I don't mean those children, that are that unfortunate. But some are really spoiled, I have the feeling, but on the opposite spectrum, where parents are well off.
I'm sorry If I offended anyone. But in any case, if you search for old games, you might find some older horse games, that might be a good alternative for free. You can even find the old Star Stable games. They might have not the best graphics, but maybe can make some people happy that can't afford SSO. I mean you don't need to support them, if prices are too high for your opinion and budget.
Did I buy three horses?
Yes.
Did I like the update?
No.
I think the weirdest thing about sso is how they started a lot of projects in the game but... forgot about them? Like what's with the forest trees around silversong river? Or dinovalley in general? They started updating the old areas and then just... forgot it and stopped. Everything that made the game has stopped and the game is entirely a different one now, reason why I stopped playing a year ago. It's an empty horse training/racing game. And that is not a game I started playing. Edit: also I think all the recoding and updating graphics is just a waste of time and money for the company. At this point they would save so much time and possibly money by just remaking the game
They should honestly just make a sequel at this point imo
For the tack, they actually made the them available in JS. That's the "discount", as before you could only buy them expensively with star coins.
I don't see that as a discount as discounts mean that there's something *off price wise* and that's more like "here's another way to pay" than a sale/discount, its a little dirty.
@@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic Yes ! And there’s only like 6/8 old items (I don’t remember) that no one wants to buy anyways
@@harinu9339
Yeah, the prices of those items are such bs.
Yeah, I'm a shilling collecting player because I enjoy that but the "discounted" saddle I bought was 9900 JS.
thats like converting dollars to euros and calling it a discount
SSO prices are damned high. I wish they would understand that, but as long as they corner the marker, it will never change. Devs who make horse games, do, unfortunately exploit the passion of players. It's sad and I hate it, but as long as we are THIS passionate about horses, they will always be able to make money off of us. I am happy to know that the community is putting its foot down XD Great video, as always!
I absolutely love your humor and respect your opinions you have always been the angel in my book. You are just honest which we need more of in this world.
Thank you so much!
6:18 I thought that too, but then I realized that the expensive ones there are mostly stuff that we could buy only with star coins before. So they just added that we can buy it with shilings too.
Originally, I bought the lifetime account (it was 72 bucks at the time). I had a whole entire discord server that was dedicated to my sso club, and that I've had some fantastic experiences with. Even so, I had to leave this game behind because of the problem with the prices and just generally misleading customer service.
I've been here since around 2015, and its so stupid how the creators are being so blind to the actual community. Like not aging the game with the audience for example (I know its technically a kids game, but since its been around for so long the original audience has grown now). This is my childhood game too, and was also one of the last things my dad and I shared and laughed about together. So I want this game to grow and better itself.
I appreciate you making this video, even if people hate it, because sometimes people need to think about WHY someone feels angry, instead of just immediately getting defensive about a game they love.
This! I played SSL in 2005... at age ten. I’m now 28 and still with the franchise. The teens who joined it a decade ago are now in college.
@@redfailhawk Sso was released around 2011 - 2012???
@@BitterCyder I said SSL--StarShine Legacy--which came out in 2005 and is the predecessor to SSO but features similar locations and characters. It's literally my childhood. I've been with it longer than most of the players because I got SSL at launch.
@@redfailhawk Ah ok, thanks for explaining.
Thank you! I thought I was going crazy for feeling how I do about this game. I played back in 2015, came back, sold all my old broken horses, and got 10k in money so that I could buy two pieces of tack or clothing? So then the black Friday sale was announced, and I got excited thinking I could afford something...I was so wrong lol I don't want to see the game go downhill, or the community turn against each other, but something has to change!
how much i agree with you is almost scary bro-
i agree with basically everything you talked about in this vid, i just hope star stable takes notice as this game is too my childhood, (i started playing in 2015 also!) luckily the winter update seems to be a bit better than last year... guess we will have to see. love u bro lets be besties lol (edit: i dont use tik tok for those reasons you mentioned alone smh)
we are best friends starting today
@@DenisWisestorm WOOHOO!
Best friend status acquiredddd
There’s a difference between being realistic and being negative, you’re always being realistic with your viewers. Also I have the dapple gray Arabian, and I just bought the speckled Icelandic from the Black Friday sale since I had some saved up
I cannot agree with you more here. I'm scared for the community though, what will happen to the game's future? 🐀
The game will die out. My guess but hopefully not cuz I’ve spent prolly a literal grand on this game 😬🧍
@@PippRahhh Same. A couple thousand at least over 6/7 years 😬
@@helios3217 for me it’s been over 4yrs😭💀
@@helios3217
Lmao same
I played for 6, almost 7 years. I have 4 pages of bank transactions for sso. I only calculated one or two and it added up to 2000 💀
star stable is brain dead to realize lower prices equals more people buying SC , they’re too focus on making money
I was a little bit disappointed when they came out with double star coins and there was no discount on them with it being black friday.
Honestly what makes me even more angry are the social media influencers and UA-camrs praising SSO for every little thing they release and defending them for everything. Obviously a company that just wants money is going to deny any wrongdoing…but there are so many UA-camrs and popular players encouraging sso and telling them how amazing everything is!
You can always count on Dennis to say what no one else will, and honestly I think the SSO community is specifically looking for drama or things to complain about because they have nothing better to do with their day.
But the community will speak about and has been, but there certain player that will shut any kind of criticism down, not matter is it’s valid or not. They turn the people that actually care into haters… We have been complaining for years and it keeps going on. We shouldn’t act like no one is saying something.
For real, i can't see much wrong with the game overall except for the prices.
I agree with you completely it’s just sad how they don’t pay attention to any of there players. I understand the whole money and wanting it, but lower the prices, of a lot of things. I do agree the graphics are getting so much better. But I feel there was no point on doing the Black Friday update if they weren’t going to lower the prices like A LOT. I find it very sad at how and where the game has become.
I think the hats were 149sc and you couldn't buy them with shillings, which is why its called a sale... but its still super expensive for a HAT. imo no item of clothing should be more than 9k considering the cap is 10k
anyways i agree w every point u made
That's not a sale as there's nothing off, it's moreso just "heres another way to pay"
@@Im_Iconic-Youre_Ironic they also lowered the star coin amount i think? but yeah I agree lol
@@dragu_la
Yeah... Even more so, its not much of a discount if its lowered a little, they need to do better if they're gonna start following these types of events for quick cash grabs.
kinda wierd that sso put a black friday sale a few weeks before the christmas update, ( with 2 new horses mind you ) like they want you to buy a horse, then to realise that you dont have anymore star coins for the limited time horses that come with the christmas update, meaning you most likely wil buy star coins.
That’s almost exactly what happened to me 🤧 I had forgotten the TWH were coming out, so I bought an Arabian bc they were cheaper, so now I can only afford to buy one horse and not 2 like I had planned (the TWH and Icelandic Special Horse). Pretty smart on their part, but frustrating nonetheless.
I love your videos so much. Also they change the bunny race, with updated bunny's and no more having to click on the rabbits. honestly I hated that they did that. clicking on the bunnies actually made it more challenging. now that race feels too easy now.
Thank you, Eliza!
YOU DON'T NEED TO CLICK?
14:18 did he just say "ohio friesian horses" 💀
So happy to see that Star Stable is getting better after these past 2 years. Finally some Quests instead of just new races and horses.
I have played since 2015 and actually today bought my 50th horse 🐴 I rarely buy starcoins, so I really enjoyed the black friday update
This! 💯
Same!
I’m glad to hear you say that sso and rdr2 can’t be compared regarding price. Because sso, as an mmorpg, SHOULD be more expensive than rdr2. Because mmorpgs are more expensive than triple A games. The team behind rdr2 worked under a contract lasting x amount of years, until they achieved a final product, and then they’re done at Rockstar and they don’t get paid anymore.they have a final product of which they can put a price-tag on, and estimate beforehand how many copies they have to sell to break even - and then some. The team behind Star Stable will, as an mmorpg, technically never have a final product. Star Stable is CHEAP (what??) compared to other mmorpgs in the form of offering a Life Time membership, giving you the opportunity of not being tied to a subscription service. I’m amazed by the fact that they still offer this, and there’s a reason why other mmorpgs don’t do this: Because they won’t earn enough money from it. And Star Stable needs paying customers, constantly, to maintain servers and update the game with new content. Maybe Star Coins would be cheaper if they stopped offering Life Time, but I’d rather pay more for sc once or twice a year than having to pour money in to the game every month to be able to play it.
You could argue that RDO, with its online functions, also has a server that needs to be maintained. But the argue falls dead on the fact that Rockstar for one is a huge company who has better income elsewhere, and secondly that rdo is, in fact, dead.
Another significant factor is the lack of competition for sso. But I’m hoping that’s about to change.
TOTALLY support the opinions about their Black friday deal being shit though. The people who can’t afford star coins on a normal day was left disappointed yet again…
… To put things in to perspective: My boyfriend has played World of Warcraft for 10 years. There’s no option for a «lifetime subscription» in WoW, so to spare some pennies he pays for 6 months at a time. That’s $155 for one year. Over ten years that equals $1550. On top of this there’s other micro-transactions for in-game currencies. He’s probably spent well above $2000 on WoW, and if he wants to keep playing the game for ten more years… Well then double it.
This comparison isn’t totally fair, because WoW has a much bigger player base (+ they’re older in average)and the game in general is much bigger. But it’s a more fair conparison than any triple A game out there.
I will say, I loved the quest we just had to do (granted I was 3 “instances” behind so I spent an evening doing it) but it felt like an actually meaningful, forward moving quest FINALLY and the upcoming winter update looks amazing with beautiful magical horses.
I also encountered a glitch with the Star Coin discount between the app & desktop. Overall I think they could’ve done better & made WAYYYY more money with this update. But, I prefer they pay attention to main story quests, the map, and making the winter even worthwhile 🙂
It's honestly SO ridiculous that a single horse costs a minimum of $30, which once you get it to level 15 there is really not much more progress you can do with it in game. Meanwhile other AA gaming companies such as Fortnite, Apex, Overwatch, etc, charge only $10-$20 for a skin that is highly animated. You can also a buy a battle pass for less than that and get other limited skins. SSO treats the community as if we're stupid and will continue giving them money no matter what just because it is "the only horse MMO". It's extremely predatory and corrupt when you consider that SSO is a game designed to cater toward CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS. So they're basically trying to rip off parents money. They could have done 20% off ALL horses in game, but they probably never will due to their greed.
If they were actually trying to make a good Black Friday deal that players enjoyed rather than a quick scheme posing as a BF Deal, they would have either:
1. Discounted current and popular items (especially updated tack and clothes, not those crunchy looking saddles, shirts, etc)
2. Offered some sort of shop/seller that allows you to pick any horse in the game (that's still in the game) and you get ONE horse for 50% off. Then the rest, if they wanted, could be restricted based on breeds.
3. Offered HEAVY discounts on SC or SR that we would ACTUALLY never see except on Black Friday. Double starcoins deals are not special anymore when they come out at least once per month... What about a TRIPLE starcoin deal? A 'get a horse of your choosing for free with certain bundles' deal??
We (hungarians) didn't have chat for like almost two years. It just censored out everything and the community just died. I wanted to play but i just couldn't because there was no chat to communicate with others :((
I’m reverting back to gen1 horses and my racing gear from 10 years ago. No one can stop me.
Your horses' name...
"Fartin"
😂😂😂
Glad to know, that im not the only one mad about the new prices..like bro, 4 euros, FOUR for 100 star coins, is that even real??? they must be kidding..Like before was like 2 euros max or so, thats good price, like sso has probably more players now than before, why they increase the fuckin prices, like wtf.. i was fine paying 50 euros for 10k sc, ok but now is like almost 10 euros more.., before, it was like idk 45 euros? just ridiculous like you just said.. almost 75 euros, for a one time pay account when it was like 50 or less before..they dont put 4k sc on buying a one time pay accs anymore..just 1200, or 2400...And now, the 30% discount man, thats still like 50 euros still!...just insane..Specially the star cins prices just NO WAY..
PD: ALSO..the prices of the clothes and saddles etc fuck theyre so expensive.....Plus dude i dont get WHY they keep making clothes and saddles and etc with NO STATS AT ALL, like wth?..i dont get the point in doing that
5:58 Funny thing is every time I see that Firgrove saddle pad I think of weed leaves I refuse to believe anyone who says that they don’t look like weird deformed weed leaves 😭
Loved this video so much! And i'm so sad that people can't listen to other peoples oppinions like AT ALL, bc they get so mad and stuff. But i'm so happy to watch your videos Denis, bc all u are doing is just being honest and is a really kind person. And i really appreciate your hard work on your videos
Thank you so much, Han! :)
@@DenisWisestorm You are so welcome! Omg u liked my comment
@@MathildeBT_ of course I did! I really appreciate your kind words!
@@DenisWisestorm No problem! I'm so happy to be a part of the Dinky Rats
Im not suprised, sso is a cashgrabing kids now
As a lifetime Star Rider I need to wait 9-10 weeks until I finally have enough Star Coins for ONE horse if I don't buy additional Star Coins
Even though the sc prices are very high, it is dope that they have double sc weekends and a lot of offers that if you buy the ig bulk pachages of 1000 sc and up, they often have offers where you get tack, clothing or pets.
And I think compared to other games where you can buy in-game stuff which is cheaper than the expensive sc, those games belong to a bigger compagny that develops more games and also earns money from merchandising a lot, like EA games and Rockstar Games who have 2 major, bown up games with multiple versions (RDR and GTA). I also wonder if those 1600 people worked on that game all at once, and maybe among those 1600 people there were also PR workers, doing PR for other games at the same time aswell. That is a lot of speculationg, but if this is the case it makes sense why RDR can make their buyable stuff cheaper. compared to SSO, owned by Star stable Entertainment AB, who also have multiple games, but only 2 are online and still being developed (The apps and SSO) Sweden is expensive as hell (at least to other europeans) so they have to earn a lot of money to pay their employees a normal salary and they barely earn from merchandise.
I never approve of death threats and toxicity. The fact this is happening on such a huge scale should really be a wake-up call for SSO though. It's happening for a reason, even if it's not how people should act.
Denis: For 5000 thousand starcoins its 55€
Me: chokes on water
I live in Poland and 5000 star coins would be 21.7€ 😳
In germany it's over 60 Eros now
So true it’s upsetting 😢
Edit: Star Stable is so over priced I totally agree
I AGREE WITH THIS WHOLE VIDEO👍 Sso could just be so much better if they were to lower the starcoin prices and heard the community's voices. I really appreciate you being so honest and straight forward. I just don't get why people get so upset hearing other people's opinions, like everyone has there own opinions, why do ppl get so upset when someone shares there own? Get over it.
YOUR VIDEOS ARE ALWAYS NICE!
I was in your stream a year ago and that is why now I have YT channel you are the one who make me do it or I would never upload videos thank you so so much.❤️
Sigh... I'm just so dissapointed in this company. To treat your community, the people GIVING YOU THE MONEY like we're just wallets is fucking idiotic. If you lower your prices, more people are more likely to buy them which means you'd get more revenue overtime than you would with people buying Star Coins, let's say once a month or once every year. I love Star Stable, but the people in charge of this game is fucking sad. To raise your price this much yet rarely give your community anything to do in the game? Big Yikes. Once people realize that the money spent in this game is no longer worth it, the people giving the money is going to leave. This isn't some small company that needs more help money wise, it's a HUGE Multi-Million Dollar company. I understand you have to pay workers and for the computers, etc that you need to use for said game, but there is still no excuse for a Multi-Million Dollar company to be raising ONLY 5K Star Coins to bascially $20 away from $100. It's Greedy and Selfsih, and although they got better at listening to the community from the past, it feels like it's going backwords. I'm kidna done with this game, and I have slowly been moving farther away from it.
This game pushes 'get the latest thing' too much! New horses and tack far too often and next to no new full quests or in game content. People play to buy the newest thing and that's it.. it's embarrassing ! For 5000sc (10k double sc) is near £50 which for pixel horses and tack (which will be out dated by the next horse release) is sickening
$100 CAD for rdr2, a much better game with much better quests and an incredible story.
(for me) $760 for starstable…
I totally agree Star stable is a great game and is online which most horse games cannot compete with with a few tweaks they can be back on track eg male characters in sso and change prices if possible and minor details but your humour makes this 10000 % better and you show the reality that a lot of people sweap under the rug thancks for more amazing content ( also i mean who wouldn't wanna be a dinky rat i mean come on ) xx
Yes sir exactly! It's kind of sad to see how the white knights and fake sso youtubers just ignore the high price, they might say something like "but it's a company" bruh, like you said comparing sso to other games with far more developers that still can pay everyone who worked on it and get finance. It's just embarrassing tbh. I have no idea what is going behind the screens w sso team cause they won't show us anything, but they gotta do something quick.
Bruh when I saw the clothes and tack at the sale I just…💀
The only money I’ve ever spent on this game is star rider. I’m glad I didn’t dump more money into it bc I barely even play anymore
Bruh I was so confused when I saw the mustang there, also for the same price as other, polished gen 2 horses, like they could at least make them cheaper...
It's not a terrible update and arabians are on a really good price but still more impressive as a business decision than a good contribution to the game. If everyone spends their star coins now they won't be able to save up for new (amazing btw) christmas horses which will force them to buy sc again :)
Denis, your videos make my day. keep it up. we don't get raw and real feedback and content anywhere in the sso community other than here.
I dont even know what to say, i havent logged on in ages because of the money part of the game, its so sad
I totally agree about the Friesian, it's just nowhere near up to the standard of the other horses that were released around the same time... though I seem to remember hearing that whoever animated that was no longer working at Star Stable. I could be wrong. I hope things turn a corner for the game, I'm cautiously optimistic with the recent updates, although I am a little concerned about what's happening with the original lore and the reviews so far I've seen about the character update. Love the snow though!
Also, not related to the "Black Friday Update" (it was barely a BF update if you consider that double starcoins are not special, the items discounted are close to trash, etc) but WHY IN THE FLIM FLAM FLYING FECK are old gen1 and gen2 horses still full price??? I don't care anymore if they don't have an updated version yet or not but it should be downright ILLEGAL for SSO to charge 900+sc for a chunky abomination of a mustang (just to name the first breed to come to mind) when I can get the gorgeous Belgian Warmblood for LESS??? The moment the game graduated to gen3 horses (the Connemaras), all prior breeds should have been discounted a bit, and then discounted WAY MORE when they're heavily updated versions came out. And I think some of the gen1 and gen2 horse breeds that have had gen3 updates still haven't seen reduced prices so that's another tragedy upon tragedy, lmao
I agree. There should be an update to make them cheaper.
I just LOVE your videos and your honest opinion!!
I LOVE these types of videos! Always watch them while editing or Training. 😎👍🏻
In Poland you can buy 5000 sc (in double sc 10000) for 99.99 PLN. It's really much. In today's economy even bread from a bakery is kinda expensive.
I love Star Stable, honestly it’s an amazing game, but I just cannot progress with it. I don’t have star rider and I can’t go anywhere because of all the side quests are unreachable. And that’s literally what the game is, a pay to win game.
I agree with you and about the mustangs aswell even though yes they are quite crusty i do love them not becuase of nostalgia but becuase my favorite breed is mustangs irl and im hoping sso doesnt ruin them when they get remodeled lol they better let someone who knows what there doing remodle and animate the horse ;-; and with all the other breeds to come in the future. love your videos
I've been following the SSO drama for years. Same as The Sims franchise. It's astounding how brainwashed people can become. SSO likes to price itself as a triple A game, when they can't even compare themselves to Alicia Online - A FREE racing game with better graphics and horse models. AO might be just racing with nothing else, but the movement and mechanics for the horses and how they race is mind blowing ngl. It's so so so hard for games to get horses right. The only games that have achieved close to perfect are AO and RDR.
I’m so glad I’m not the only who compares the two! Literally before I started watching this, I was watching satch on sims review of some sim packs; literally both companies are identical. Both companies are just a corrupt corporations that are just trying to make a quick buck. I will say though, EA is slowly, VERY slowly, getting better. After all they did make the base game free, but that is just one tiny tiny improvement.
@@bluesky2925 Honestly, the only reason they're trying to do better is because people are FINALLY calling them out on all their BS. There's always been the ones who did so, but we were in the minority. Now though, with Paralives in development, those once blind to or ignoring EAs problems are starting to open their eyes.
The Sims comparison is so true. Money hungry owners who make the base game free (currently) but to enjoy the experience, you have to buy a hundred dollars worth of packs, and you still get bored of it.
I haven't spent any SC's for about 2 years until the Black Friday sale with the double SC's happened. I bought the W12 Icelandic pony. The buckskin with the white underbelly. The clothing's not all bad looking, but it's still all VERY expensive and some what not worth touching, unless you're desperate for better clothing. Also, a lot of the clothing in the shop can't be used by the lower leveled free-2-play people because of the level gaps with almost every item and reputation if it calls for it.
I think that SSO was trying to maybe bottleneck the newer players into maybe getting a membership or something?
I didn't realize this before cuz I'm a higher lvl player (who's been around for ages) in the game with pretty much all my reputation finished. But, a fellow by the name of *@Yula568* mentioned that newer players can't even buy the Icelandic's because you require more reputation with New Hillcrest. It's a not so funny joke for the newer players.
SSO still feels like a greedy leech, even during their Black Friday sales week. But I will admit that for the 1st time in a while, I'm actually going to be getting a bit excited about the Christmas update. I just hope they don't drag it out like last time.
ngl that was sooo entertaining to watch😭💀 i was giggling like a lil school girl reading these comments on tiktok
i like how your videos are like podcasts and i can listen to then while doing something
the tiktok community is absolutely brutal, we have no boundaries
i'm not lying when i say i literally threw my phone across the room when i saw that tiktok
I honestly love this video. Star stable would be such a better game if they actually listened to their players.
Also, I’m absolutely in love with the horse Isla SparrowFoot is on around 2:52. (If anyone knows what horse this is, please tell me.)
The horse is from this year's halloween update, it's the normal coat of Laverna
"the lice infected rodents" bro 😭💀
Ok but inflation shouldn't affect the price of pixels (starcoins, in this case)? That sounds like an excuse from the company itself.
As a Canadian, 5000 star coins is $69.95, and 10k SCs is $109... yikes
The prices have always been too high from the start. Especially considering the age group that generally plays the game. It's not so bad once you have the lifetime membership and you save the free weekly coins to purchase a horse but when you spend actual money on a horse that they won't update for free after changing the model 3 times and then making all new tack obsolete for your old model it is a rip off. If they were truly a fair company they would offer for old purchases to be either updated for free or let you sell that old model for at least half the star coins back so you can purchase the updated model. Some say they won't give the option because "some" people want to keep the old one. I'd argue that those people are few and far between. Some of the old models look extremely bad and out of place in the updated Star Stable world. Even if they didn't look bad new tack doesn't work and they aren't going to win any race against a newer model because the animations are vastly different which does effect speed. So what someone ends up having is a stable full of unused horses. It's not right.
red dead costs 60 USD (57.54 euros). the fact that lifetime SR is TEN DOLLARS more than that just flabbergasts me. RDR2, a game aimed at an ADULT AUDIENCE and that has at least 80 HOURS of gameplay (probably more, considering all of the extra missions), is cheaper than an online horse game for CHILDREN. SSO needs to get their act together fr
i just wish they would use the *MILLIONS* they make yearly to actually improve!! Newer computers, younger people with fresh ideas, revamp this crusty company and actually IMPROVE. But what do they do? Wallow in money, raise prices of starcoins, and refuse to listen to the community trying to help them. At this point, what can be done? I’m tempted to cut my losses and quit. It’s not worth the money.
this generation is so lost lmao everyone only cares about their opinions and if anybody has a different one from theirs omg it's the end of the world. one of the reasons why i quit this game. it's like everyone is a child now.
I’m so scared of next year update because the new players… I didn’t like them 😭😭😭
same 😭
As a high school gamer who rarely goes on sso, scarecely spends money on it, I think this update is amazing I mean come on. when do you get a discount on horses? especially Arabs. we need to be grateful for the effort the team put on Come on ppl. Thanksgiving was literally like last week, what were you expecting from a "holiday" that is only for one friday? 😑... I completely agree with you, Denise. there is a difference between giving hate and giving criticism to help the team out
The Black Friday sale irritates me so much cus it didn’t affect the Jorvik shilling prices it only lowers the star coins prices.
So like it’s not like they changed much, and yeah I get inflation is a thing but I remember before inflation I had to pay close to $40 for a horse and it’s not like the horses are anything special there just skins lol. Even EA doesn’t dare to charge $40 for one skin at least not today.
This is just sad. Star stable is so money hungry!!
I wish they would just stop shoving horses down players throats and get more teams to work on main story quests. Improve and fix the game in general.
So sad that players are leaving the game because they can't afford to continue playing.
The tack and horse prices are just terrible. And these horse sales they have going on are even more maddening with the fact that its old models or coat variations.
I was hoping they would maybe give more weekly star coins for star riders but looking at what's happening now i know that won't be happening.
Needed this vid! Thank you 🐎🐀
I love your channel because you always speak the genuine truth. You aren’t afraid to speak up about these serious issues with SSO. Thank you. 🐀 I agree with everything you are saying.
I may quit sso soon. Not entirely, but just not log on more then every few months. Maybe I’m just picky but.. the new sso characters look like trash. The Tennessee walking horse doesn’t represent the breed at all.. I don’t like what sso is becoming.
Star Stable’s TikTok comment section is horrendous
As someone with limited income, there is no way on gods green earth I am forking up like $20 dollars for a singular HORSE, the microtransactions in this game are SO predatory it's ridiculous! Even if I was a child it was hard enough asking my parents for $5 subscriptions to a video game once a month, let alone just outta no where "grandma can I have $20 to buy this new horse that came out in video game?" LOOOL. If they are struggling with making money then I can see why! More people would buy starcoins/subs if they were cheaper = more money in the long term vs, the occasional adults who spend like $100 on the game every 3-5 months when a new horse comes out, KIDS DON'T HAVE THAT KINDA INCOME???? jfc.
So, something else I though worth mentioning is, Star Stable is a sweetish company. So, they use euros, euros are worth more then the American dollar so it would make sense that we would have a higher price. Although, star stable makes a crap ton of money anyways and based on all the money they’re making, the difference in the dollar shouldn’t be so drastic as to practically double the price for Americans or anyone using the US currency.
I’ve also been doing ALOT of research on star stable, their game play, game mechanics, etc… Some people may think I’m just staying a conspiracy theory, if you do, whatever, your choice. Anyways, there’s been some evidence that star stable is using computer power to mine for money (in code), (it’s difficult to explain in deep detail). This would explain why your computer is burning hot and the fan turns on when it seems you’ve only been playing for around like, five minutes. The mining uses computer energy and power so when you log on, they immediately start mining (in code) in your computer. It’s another way for them to gain money.
Some of you may have been there for the GameGuard update. GameGuard was supposed to protect against viruses and bugs in the game and frankly, it seems like they rolled back the GameGuard system due to the fact that GameGuard was protecting the game (and our computers, laptops, etc…) from getting mined (in code). I noticed when they were using the GameGuard system, the fan on my computer would turn on much later then usual and it wouldn’t be burning up in the first ten minutes. Pointing towards the theory that GameGuard was intact keeping them from mining.
Anyways, that’s my assumption based on the data I’ve gathered and researched. Take it or leave it, your choice, either way, have a nice day! ❤️❤️
(Love your vids)
@Vestrala Sounds good, thank you for the correction.
I think dropping the price on the Icelandic was nice because it IS popular, but it would have been cool if they’d dropped the level accordingly. My second account is level 7 and could not get most of the costs. Meanwhile, I have them all on my level 20 account.
The DSC was not a deal.
The tack and gear were so high I was disgusted. It wasn’t worth it. And they’re not even nice sets for the most part. They are almost all dark and dingy and it was a serious letdown.
My only remaining compliment is that the halters you get using BLACKFRIDAY2022 were cute.
I definitely agree with everything here. I don't log in anymore unless I see an update that's quest related, otherwise...meh. I do hope eventually sso will understand where players are coming from and idk just put more effort in gameplay. I've been playing since 2014 and ig it makes me sad to not feel excited to play any longer
denis is extremly VALID! i agree with all that u have said, love your videos!
oh my, thank you for the love on my comment! i do feel the same about people leaving hate comments and just disrespect when people have an opinion, how could somebody do that to someone! i wish people could understand when someone has an opinion on a horse or just an update they dont like and think that '' oh ur ruining the game for others!'' like come on! EVERYONE HAS AN OPINION! 😂
I started star stables when I was in elementary and I begged my mom to get me the life time star rider, and one time I went on to play and my life time star rider was gone and the next month- I couldn't login into my account- so I quit- plus the game is hungry for money
I live in hungary and its just 22.49 euros, but it used to be 18.75 euros. now with the tack and everything its 33.49 euros. its insane honestly.
When I first started playing I would always say stuff like "I wonder if I will still be playing Star Stable when I'm older" but I highly doubt SSO will still exist in 10 years sadly.
Honestly cannot agree more 🐀 Love your videos cause u always explain why u might not like something but u don’t hate on the game
Tbh I think they are step up there game the quest we got last week was incredible
But honestly all we can do is give our opinion and hope for the future
Can’t wait for 2023
that is so true and starstable has been removing my starrider now 3 times I have payed for the onecs pay 2 times and I will not be paying anymore for the game
SSO does care about their players. In 2012 when I was like 9 I told them I couldn‘t afford the star rider membership and I basically trauma dumped the support and how this game helps me escape reality. They ended up giving me 1 month star rider for free and I was so so so happy😢
getting ready for tea be like: 👩💻☕️
When i did the pay once star rider a couple of years ago it was discounted for like $74.99 before tax so i could imagine it would be like 80 or 90 right now. Us citizen btw. This inflation is really making me consider leaving the game not to mention how they keep releasing horses instead of fixing the games mechanics. They have enough horses and make enough money from that.
I’ll still call light grey horses white just cause it’s easier. I mean it has a white coat like I get it doesn’t have pink skin or what ever but I’ll still call it white cause it’s quicker and easier to explain to non horse people
Well in my language we have a special word for this color, so there is no confiusion there. For me it's strange how they are called in english
@@stellasternchen when I’m actually explaining something to people who wanna learn about horses I’ll teach them the difference between a light grey and a white horse. The only things that some people do that annoys me alittle is call a white horse albino and call any young horse a colt.
I didn’t think the update was bad but I mean they could have changed something’s about it it’s smart from a business standpoint but kind of bad from a customers perspective I miss how it used to be when it was about fun and not about spending so much money
That is so weird. How come I'm on E EU servers but my star coins cost 36.15 euros? I don't understand how they explain that tf
@Vestrala I know but converting from my currency to euro it's under 40 euros for the largest amount which caught me off guard lol
As a Gen Z, I totally agree, and something these people, who are probably 7, or at least act 7, dont understand that SSO also has to make money, and advertise. They have staff to pay and Bill's to pay, just like anyone else