If "Peter" had been my father I would appreciate the detectives searching for answers. My father was missing for 16 years. They finally found him living with a couple who were abusing him. He was mental ill and also had health problems that left him bedridden most of the time. He was finally able to call adult protection services and get out of there. He finally got the help he needed and he passed away last year surrounded by loved ones. You never know who may be searching for answers. "Peter" could have family but didn't want to burden them. I could see my father trying that before APS contacted us about him.
I am so so sorry for what happened to your poor father and I'm also very sorry for what you're family must have gone through! I'm really glad that when he passed, he was surrounded by family and loved ones. Blessed be lovely 🌜💜xxx
@@btetschner he was living with his brother (my uncle) in Oklahoma City. My uncle was put in the hospital after a heart attack. Some time before my uncle came home my father stole or sold everything of value and left. We thought after a week he would come back.. Like he had before. Well he didn't this time. Turns out a pair of sisters took him in. Its a long story after that. My family is still searching for my other uncle who went missing after the Korean War. His name is William Larry Mckim but he goes by Larry. We know he married a south korean lady and had a child named George. Our family hasn't heard from him since the early 70s. So when my father went missing it was especially hard for his remaining siblings.
my uncle had bone cancer and tumors. it is the most painful illness.... a man in pain not taking any medication wouldn't be able to sleep and would eventually go crazy. because of that it's easy to imagine someone wanting to die with dignity instead of in huge amounts of pain in a hospital bed with the tumors shattering his bones from the inside out!!! seeing someone you care about in such a painful horrible state is truly one of the most heart wrenching things.... i understand the man not wanting to bother his family with his situation and to just go out somewhere peaceful while he could still move on his own two feet before the cancer made him bed ridden and the tumors shattering his bones.
They have some pretty good drugs these days. I had a strangulated hernia and it felt like someone was pulling my intestines out. They gave me a shot of Dilaudid in the hospital and I was feeling no pain then. I mean I felt great! Never better in fact. I felt so good it was scary. But only in retrospect. I didn't have a care in the world at the time.
@@1pcfred so... You had terminal cancer? Just asking... For a friend... So I can point out how your story is not at all relatable to patients dying of cancer. Not trying to be an ass but that's how you're coming came off as right now
Watching people die of cancer, with hospice medication is hard... Watching families let a member suffer, without proper end of life care because of misconception/religious reasons makes nurses very angry.. and there's not much we can do.
@@Adrian-zd4cs that's messed up the family wont let someone who is about to die take pain meds. and then in my uncles case. his tolerance was so high from years of drug use and misdiagnosed cancers. more than four times the doctors said the amount of drugs they were going to shoot him up with was going to kill him and four times they were wrong. they had to use all the drugs in their hospital and because of the huge amounts of drugs that were necessary to relieve his pain from the cancer that spread to his bones in seattle the hospitals rewrote their drug administering policy for the terminally ill.
Let me just drop this here. My parents had the conversation about our end of life care but I could never (I'm a nurse) get them to do living wills, etc - I came home from travel nursing in mid 2019 - Dad got sick right before Covid... The Mom fell in November 2020, she died in December 2020, I was able to get her home less than 24 hours before she died. (In the home my parents built) My Dad wasn't healthy to begin with but he'd lost his wife of 35 years. My promise to my Dad was that he wouldn't suffer. He didn't but it doesn't make it easier on me.. He died 4 months after Mom. Please, talk with your family about death. What are your wishes, what are your families wishes... Covid complicated so much.. thankfully we had hospice because if not - my Dad would have found another way. I relate my Dad to Mr. Bergman - he was so private - just wanted to move on and not leave a mess for everyone else. Y'all - we all die. Please discuss it with your loved ones, make living wills, let them know how you want to be "cared for" in death..
Sorry, I accidentally hit dislike when I meant to hit like. My parents have everything sorted and a GPS locator thingy for us to find the EXACT spot where they want their ashes to be placed (in a rock salt urn, in a Rockpool). No funeral but a get together afterwards.
I think part of the reason there was so much investigation was because that's the basic work police do when a deceased person shows up. For 1) to ensure no foul play and 2) to track down next of kin if possible.
As another person with a father who vanished without a trace, I'd definitely would want the police to leave no stone unturned in identifying him (assuming my father is dead). In the grand scheme of things, who he truly was means nothing, but there's always the possibility that one person is out there for whom this mystery is their world.
Kudos to Jen for locating The Sommerton Man video. He didn't even think of the right channel. I love it when Simon references past videos he only vaguely remembers creating.
@@heatherbrenner8275 pretty much completely agree, even if some of the channels don't get many uploads anymore I'm a Simon simp and I'm subbed to em all B)
To be honest, there is a search engine on a youtube channel that allows you to search for a video's title... And besides, Simon has admitted he is using old biographics videos for the Casual Criminalist (like Ed Gein) or Decoding the Unknown
It's a good story. Probably a conspiracy involving several spy agencies that resulted in a love story decades later it's great. They were exhuming him to test the DNA of his suspected child and then COVID hit. I'm gonna go dive down that hole again. ✌️
One thing I can tell you is that despite belonging to a company that distributes all over europe the particular kind of soap he was carrying was at that time only distributed to a small collection of care homes in Brittany, France. This info might be helpful.
My hunch is that "Peter" was a loner type without much family (fairly common among middle-aged Germans and Austrians due to WWII killing so many there), he knew he was going to die and didn't want to die in a hospital, and probably mistakenly thought that the waves would just take him out to sea never to be found or be thought of. Considering that both the UK and Ireland have always had "hard" border crossings (non-Schengen) with airports that have lots of cameras that are archived, it would have been relatively easy for authorities to at least pinpoint what flight he arrived on and probably trace him back to his point of origin. Bergmann's attention to detail, knowledge of how to avoid evidence of his identity, and ability to tolerate pain suggest to me that he was likely former military, police, security service, something like that. His likely letters home make me believe that the few people whom he felt close to knew what he did and are just keeping quiet to respect his privacy (again, Germans and Austrians are really sensitive about privacy). Considering how this was handled by the police, I think that the authorities in Ireland and the UK at some level know exactly who he was and why he did this, and just refused to disclose his identity out of respect for what were his last wishes.
I hope for this. Clearly it was his dying wish to be left alone and move on... I posted a comment about both perspectives but, yeah - this. Let him be.
@@Adrian-zd4cs Yes indeed. I think that those points are just about certain. A lot of people seem to assume he must have been some kind of criminal because of how far he went to hide his identity, but I highly doubt that. What would a dying criminal have to gain from hiding his identity? This clearly all was about dying anonymously and not having any fuss made over his death.
I think if the assumption of him disposing of adult diapers is correct he was doing it for modesty and he walked up and down the beach because he didn't want anyone to see him wearing them or remove them to go in the water. Then at night when everyone was gone he was free to get in. He was old and in poor health. Swimming is hard on the body maybe just swimming caused the heart attack. Hell people die of heart attacks going to the bathroom. This may have been a bucket list thing he had always wanted to do and end of life there's no time like the present. Folding his clothes and placing them I've seen people do it almost something that was engrained in them growing up.
@@dragen179 I agree that adult diapers might be one of the things he was disposing of (although I suspect that a passport or ID was among them). But note that he did travel on a false name, give a fake address, remove tags from clothes, travel by bus in a rural location, and leave no id or anything which could lead to an identification in his room or his beach bag. In isolation one of these might be dismissed. But Ask yourself when any of these things could be said about most of us? My second level hunch is that he knew that the exertion of swimming would cause a fatal heart attack, and that he wrongly expected to be washed out to sea and his body never to be found.
@@dragen179 If they were adult nappies and he’d previously been on chemotherapy that would make the purple bags make sense as well. Generally cytotoxic/cytostatic medical waste (i.e. - from cancer treatments) is disposed of in purple bags. Maybe he had a supply of them if he’d previously been on chemo and didn’t know how long he needed to use them for (or that the colour is because they need to be disposed of carefully, but anyway…)
Yep, we do know the term CCTV here in the US. Most people just call them security cameras, but the term is known and used. Regarding the "failure" of the hotel to get his ID upon check-in, there's a chance he chose a cheap hotel so that he could slip the desk clerk a big tip to "forget" to ask for ID. As Simon pointed out, it's peculiar that he would specifically ask for a cheap hotel then take taxis. I'm sure the police investigated that idea, but since it wasn't mentioned I thought I'd bring it up. You're welcome.
In America if you go to a pay per day motel you don't need ID. You can also pay cash. I went to one once with a significant other so we had a place to go be alone together while staying with my parents and we paid cash and didn't show ID. I was 21 and he was 22 and the sign said we needed to be 25. They didn't ask for any proof we were.
I regularly remove the tags from my clothes because they're very itchy and I have very sensitive skin. Very interesting video. Great job Simon and team! 😊👏💯
As an American, at least speaking from my experiences, I’d say MOST people know what CCTV means, or at least what it is. But, generally I think we default to “security cameras.”
I think it's kinda nice to have a case where the mystery is not only not solved, but there's discussion of how it probably doesn't NEED to be solved & that there's a good argument for leaving it alone. I hope this man found some dignity & peace in choosing his exit from the world.
I think identifying the dead is an incredibly important task. You have to ensure that if he did have any family or friends, they know what happened. And it gives the person more dignity than an unmarked grave.
This seems very one sided. Simon makes it clear his opinion stems from the fact that the guy doesn’t want to be identified. The deceased persons wishes should matter here. Also, given how popular this case is, it’s likely this guy either had no living relatives or he communicated his wishes to them ahead of time. It is hard to imagine this would still be a mystery if people were looking for the guy when we have so many pictures of him.
If you don’t want people to ever know who you are, then buried in an unmarked grave would likely suit just fine. If they wanted to be remembered and immortalised in name and have all their private struggles exposed then they wouldn’t have made the effort to try and disappear. Not everyone wants to be found, you can’t assume everyone thinks like you is all.
@@rednivalthe deceased person's wishes only matter to an extent. His family deserves closure, they deserve to know what happened to him. If they know due to the letters, then fine, but if they don't then they should be told. I like how that other case mentioned who hung himself was handled. His family were found, got closure, and asked to keep his identity private. That's how the Bergman case should be handled, the police should run his DNA through ancestry websites with the explicit agreement from those sites that they will not store the results, if an identifiable relative is located they are contacted, informed, and then asked if they are okay with his identity being recorded or if they are okay with observing his wish to seemingly be unidentified. If the latter, the police simply make a statement of "Peter Bergman has been identified and next of kin informed of his fate. To observe both his wishes and that of his family, he will remain 'Peter Bergman' and we will offer no further information." And boom, case closed and importantly most people will stop looking. A lot of people still looking are concerned the family lack closure, and want them to know, either due to personal experience or just empathy they think it's cruel to never know. As soon as they're informed that his family know, they'll lose all motivation, even if they lack the answer themselves
@@DahliaVonHellionlike I just said in my other comment but kept brief, I think the family deserve to know he is deceased and how he spent his final days. He's gone, and the concern that loved ones may be forever wondering where their father went and what happened is horrific. They deserve to know he was at peace and died seemingly quickly due to cardiac arrest, and that his final act was to go for a late night swim, so that would be his last memories. I'd want to know. There's a chance the letters informed them, but in case they didn't they should be told, even if only next of kin is told and the file closed with a public statement of "we know who he was, family was told, we won't be speaking further"
I worked at a hotel for a while until a few years ago. We always required ID and a credit card for a deposit even if you were paying cash in case you trashed the room. The number of people who got super indignant at that policy and even left for another place that apparently didn't have that policy goes to show this is possible even as of 2017. Also had a guy try to pay me like $20 to let him stay in a room off the books one time and just say it "got missed" in the prior day cleaning or that someone stayed in the room for a bit but complained and left. He got huffy and left when I told him no, lol.
I have a father that committed suicide and Ive never been offended by Simon’s asides on it, sometimes being silly about something actually makes it easier to cope with. Only thing that ever really threw me into a bad mental state one could say I was “triggered” was *Dead Poet Society* and that is only because I had no idea THAT scene was coming, and its a very emotional sad scene.
I feel like real people suffering from X will find jokes of said thing funny while people trying to be cute will be "triggered" because then they get more attention.
I had a bit of a psychotic break a little over a year ago, I make joke about it because they try to tiptoe around me. As for me, there was a very angry hurt part of me that needed my attention. I am feeling better every day.
@@jacobyakus8620 not fair, Jacob. Everybody's coping mechanism is different. My father used to joke that he won't live till 60. My mother died in her unfinished 55. Once my father made that joke after her death, I was furious with him. To be fair, it turned out not to be a joke after all. I've dealt with their deaths after a while but it was a very difficult time of my life and I would lash out sometimes, not even wanting to. It just hurt too much. So even though I agree with Simon, that it's not his fault, suicide can be a very sensitive topic and it's not fair assuming that people are missusing it to get other people's sympathy.
@@makinka0cp honestly your father should've read the room. Making a joke about a dead person at a funeral would probably get a lot of people upset. Making that same joke on the internet (if its good) would probably get some laughs.
I've grown to appreciate trigger warnings, because one time something did trigger me. It had to do with the death of my mom. Normally, I don't care, I even joke about it myself sometimes. But someone said something to me (I don't even remember what it was) and I just lost it. It was some completely inoffensive thing that just clicked in my brain in a certain way and I couldn't regain composure for like an hour or two.
@@scottbubb2946 Actually, we (USA) have the highest CCTV cameras per capita. It's just the term "CCTV" isn't as prevalent. I don't know any Americans that use CCTV as a casual term for security camera or security/surveillance systems.
@@FluffyEmmy1116 Oh, okay, thank you. I guess it's probably because I live in a very small town. The first time I heard of CCTV was on UA-cam and I had no idea what it was.
@@wingerding Sorry, I don't have a TV. I haven't had one in 20 years. I also don't get out much because I'm disabled and I can't walk. So no, even if I was paying attention, I wouldn't have seen it. I can't find it on anything I have.
2:25 - Chapter 1 - The strange and sorry tale 11:05 - Chapter 2 - The mystery deepens 13:25 - Chapter 3 - The aim of the trip 20:35 - Chapter 4 - The name & adress 24:40 - Chapter 5 - The purple plastic bag 29:40 - Chapter 6 - The trip to the post office 31:35 - Chapter 7 - The autopsy report 33:00 - Chapter 8 - A couple of clues 35:25 - Chapter 9 - A solvable mystery 39:35 - Conclusion
Saying this as someone who has been suicidal since adolescence (so 2+ decades): I'm not bothered by suicide asides or discussions. Sometimes the topic is pertinent to the discussion, and sometimes a dark joke is the best response. I AM bothered when it's used for shock value (especially shock value masquerading as "awareness") & shown in detail, but even then, it's not to the point where it will trigger flashbacks/urges/panic attacks/etc - I just think it's trashy at best & will judge anyone who does it/enjoys it likewise. I find a lot of people have decided that "triggered" means "this makes me uncomfortable" instead of "this makes me relive a harmful experience as though it is actively happening again", which is what it DID mean until kids on the internet decided to do what they do best & rob a perfectly useful specific term of all meaning via overuse. THAT SAID, dying as an unidentifiable person about whom nothing is known sure is a way to obtain some kind of immortality as an "unsolved mystery". Whoever Mr. Bergmann was, I tip my hat to him making himself a legend, given name or no.
hey! I'm also someone who has struggled with suicidal ideation since adolescence (I think it started around 11, so just under 15 years ago) and I think you're spot on here. Especially with the 'triggered' assessment. It's frustrating that the word has been hijacked and stripped of its severity (much like gaslight), I'm particularly irritated by it because I have a few very dear friends / loved ones who live with complex PTSD. What they go through is devastating. To use the word as a means of inferring annoyance or discomfort completely undermines the lived experiences of those navigating trauma responses in their daily lives. I don't think most people who use the word in that way even mean any harm, but still.
In my area we had a similar case, a young man called Lyle Stevick. They finally identified him 17 years later, although the family wanted his name withheld. Some snoops online found out his name, but I thought that was kind of a shit move being that the family had requested otherwise. There’s another few cases like this, including a Christmas Eve Jane Doe who suicided in a children’s cemetery many years ago, and another similar Jane Doe from another hotel whose photo haunts me. It’s just so eerie- like the Lyle Stevik photos in a way. 🤷♀️ It’s just so odd to know someone went so far out of their way to avoid inconveniencing their loved ones.
Hey, he might save someone's life. In one episode he went off talking about carbon monoxide detectors and it reminded me I needed to replace mine. If anyone starts seeing ghosts around here it won't be because of that lol.
With the purple bags, it could be for medical reasons. In Australia and the UK any medical waste that may have cytotoxic and cytostatic drug contamination (I.e. - from cancer treatment) must be disposed of in these specific purple bags. I believe this has been since 1990. I know they said he wasn’t on any treatment at autopsy, but maybe he’d gotten into the habit of any medical/body waste (e.g. - the adult nappies) went into these purple bags, and he had a supply of them from when he was on chemo/treatment.
i stayed in a lot of hotels and b&bs in ireland around that time and unless you were paying by cheque or credit card no one ever asked for ID, ID was only asked for in order to secure payment which was not required if you were paying cash
yeah it's very very informal here still to this day, in cities and chain hotels that have multiple establishments you're much more likely to be asked for ID but a lot is still done on trust here. Which is strangely sweet and also alarming in a way, it's part of the charm I guess. Everyone is very chill. I've gotten on boats and planes that are supposed to check ID and I've just been let through, even when I've been holding my ID out to someone. It's pretty crazy.
In the US at least, life insurance payouts in the event of suicide is dependent on the individual policy. Usually life insurance will payout if the suicide happens more than two years after the policy date. And history only goes back about 5100 years, probably the oldest named person to demonstrably exist was narmer of egypt
@@elizabethveldonstuff that was the first king of unified egypt. There are names or symbols known from people that preceded him, but none that have contemporary inscriptions (that i know of).
@@christiangrantz6906 ah, thanks. i remember reading somewhere about a clerk who signed off documents as being one of the first people with a name in history
The part about him hiding the adult diapers made me so sad. He could have been someone's dad. I've heard this story before but it has never made me sad until now. Idk something about that detail/possiblity broke my heart 💔
I watched my father-in-law get ill and die from cancer and he had to wear diapers too. It hurts even more to imagine him in terrible pain, trying to hide them and then taking his own life, all while completely alone. My heart breaks for Peter and any loved ones he left behind.
I don't know why this case intrigues me so much. All the accounts of it seem to reach the same strong suspicion and I concur with it, yet I will excitedly click on anything about it I haven't seen before. If I just close my eyes and ask myself to be honest about it, I think it's that I identify with Peter. I do a lot of stuff out in the world, surrounded by people, but alone, and I'm often doing stuff that would strike most people as unusual because I have weird hobbies. So I guess I just like Peter for his mystique.
To make it maybe a bit less mysterious, maybe there was only one purple plastic bag? After he'd done whatever--maybe dropped a parcel in a post box--perhaps he just folded up the bag and put it in his pocket. I took something to a neighbor the other day and that's what I did.
They could have been medical waste bags. Bags containing cytostatic/cytotoxic waste (e.g. - from patients on cancer treatments) is colour coded purple.
It's so sweet how Simon doesn't assume someone avoiding identification and secretly disposing of things is a threat to national security. Here in the states you can be arrested for giving a cop a fake name, because anyone lying about their identity is clearly a criminal😂 Also, my dad died after prostate cancer spread throughout his body so I absolutely support that this man was willing to walk along the beach until he had a heart attack or decided to swim until he died, just to end his suffering sooner rather than later. In that case, I assume he was disposing of his kinky or sketchy stuff throughout town just in case he was able to be identified after death. Nothing worse than having people find your dildos or collection of human teeth after you die🙃
@@matthoward7645 honestly after he said you can just whip it out and take a piss on the side of the road and not worry about anything happening I stopped assuming US laws were universal😂
@@auntbee6993 I think that really depends on how the person takes the leak if it's against a wall or up corner out of sight perfectly okay but just whipping your thing out in a public place with people on looking is where the problem would arise I suppose & yes it's illegal in the uk to expose yourself in public but there is common sense applied so if you really needed to go for a pee & proceeded to have a pee in public it just depends how you went about it I suppose 😂😂
@@Rob17Cotton Here in Norway its illegal to pee in the public who includes if hidden, but then the police will not see you, out in the wood its obviously legal but not in back streets or parks.
My daughter left her diary after moving out. Yes I read some of it. Information overload doesn't even begin to explain it! I asked her if she wanted to keep it and she said yes. Then I asked if she wanted her kids to read it when she died. She said "Burn it!" As Simon has said many times "Don't write about your crimes!" Lol!!!
I was so confused when I started this video, I was sure you had covered it before. I had to pause and search real quick and realized it was Joe Scott's video I had seen. 😂
I thought the same thing, but I was too lazy to search for it, so just came to the comments, and found you. Yeah, I remember Joe's video, glad Fact Boy is doing it.
I've been intrigued by this one since I first heard of it. I agree with Simon, yes, the poor man should have the privacy he wanted, but still, I wish we had a name for him, in case someone out there is missing him and waiting for him to come home.
He did send his letters. If he had someone out there, it's likely they at least received a letter saying "I'm going to be dead soon, don't look for me, I don't want to be found, and enjoy the life insurance".
As Austrian, the address provided immediately registers as false; Vienna (Wien) has zip codes that start with 1, not 4. This is very common knowledge around here, so if that person was from Austria, it strikes me as weird to use a made up address that is THAT far off... The street name is wonky too, but there's plenty of wierd street names around; The life insurence stuff is also a dead end IMHO: if he did intent to do that, hiding his identity and having his real "me" disappear would certainly cause more issues than "drowned while swimming on vacation", no matter what policy... The accent is all over the place in Austria; people speaking in local dialect of one end cannot undestand the local dialect of the other at times, so no fault if non Austrians can't tell the difference between "German German" and "Austrian German" - add that Bavaria has a rather close-to-austrian dialect too, it's muddled.
I always struggle with this case... Part of me - he wanted to die alone and 'unknown'. Respect the wish of the dying. The other part of me (Nursing) - No one should have to die alone.
There is a difference between "having" to die alone and "wanting" to die alone. If he was just painfully shy, but was hoping someone would be with him, I doubt he would have taken such pains to be alone and unidentified. This seems to me that he was intensely private and desired anonymity.
1. You pronounce Sligo correctly 2. There are very few bus connections so taking a cab is plausible 3. Sligo is in fact tiny 4. I love the fact you say Derry rather than Londonderry. Honestly expected otherwise. Good on ya
It’s fun being the same age as you, Simon. It’s an odd time, being 35 and suddenly facing your mortality, and dealing with all these realizations 😂 Your comments and responses about death are what I’m going through, too 😅
Wouldn’t Simon have to show that possession is real, first? Otherwise, there’s nothing to debunk. It would be the equivalent of showing that unicorn exterminators are frauds -
@@ShawnPitman That's not really how it works. Some people claim they are real. That's what he needs to argue against, those claims. Same as debunking the existence of god. It can be debunked without having to prove it's real.
@@feraldelight but then you still end up getting to a point where somebody says "well I have faith that she was actually possessed and that the exorcism worked" and there's no amount of scientific proof that you could show that would change their mind. plus, there's not really any evidence that could show that in most exorcism cases, unless you're able to find one where they admitted to faking it. it's why debunking religion is generally just not worth the effort. you either believe or you don't, and an atheist's arguments will usually only reinforce other atheists and have no impact on the religious. so basically debunking exorcisms would just be preaching to the choir and mostly pointless
@@feraldelight Yes. We don't have to prove the reality of demons in order to prove that abusive, tortuous, sometimes deadly actions are performed on some people in the name of exorcisms. People with epilepsy are particularly in jeopardy from this type of maltreatment.
There is a biographics video on Gabriele Amorth, the Vatican's chief exorcist. But yeah I can see Simon doing a video about the 'idea' of exorcism, with some historical cases and his own skepticism, but it's not a thing you can really, officiall, scientifically debunk. I agree though, that could be interesting.
If I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal disease and am still able to walk around when I get to the 2 weeks left mark I think I will give this a try. I think I can pull it off.
I could imagine the legend of the "fact boi" persisting well into the future, children gossiping about it in hushed tones and whatnot. "I heard he had so many youtube channels people didn't ever have to watch anything else", "oh yeah well I heard that buttcoiners tried to steal his channels but he defeated them with his majestic beard".
I'm surprised facial recognition hasn't tracked him down. If he ever had a photo ID in the last forty years, the photo should still exist in a database somewhere. The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about the privacy argument is that we don't actually KNOW he wanted anonymity. Being extremely ill and in a lot of pain can really screw with your mind, and the false information he gave might not have been intentional. I'd say identifying him would absolutely be worthwhile for the sake of anyone he left behind, though Irish authorities must have trawled through every missing person report they could get their hands on, so it does seem likely that nobody was ever looking for him. This one was mostly just really depressing.
Or being extremely ill with weeks to live he wanted to cross things off his bucket list, stopped taking his pain medication for clear mind and went to travel ending somewhere quiet. Heck could had had fantasy of being a spy for most of his life but thought it as silly - until there's no reason not to do it for fun.
@@Lanka0Kera Yeah, I was just thinking he may have gone on one last grand tour, perhaps traveling all over Europe or even farther. The list he tore up could have been his literal bucket list, and when he crossed the last thing off, he tore it up, tossed it away and went down to the beach. Do we know if the beach faced east or west? Maybe he wanted to see one last sunrise/set. Or maybe he liked looking at the stars.
As someone who occasionally needs trigger warnings, I think they are "needed" when it's going to be a shock or surprise in any way. For example: on this channel, anything more in depth than "he was thought to have..." I could see as needed. But on the casual criminalist I would say it's only needed if you're going IN DEPTH- why, how, etc.
I love how cynical and skeptical Simon is. Too may UA-camrs overdramatize things or try to make it into something more nefarious or even paranormal. His commentaries are the same I have while he reads along or on other channels I may watch.
Same here. I appreciate the skepticism and science, plus it's unusually genuine and honest that he doesn't try to sensationalize. He even hangs a lampshade on how that's not the normal business model.
Yeah I grew up interested in the supernatural as a kid but grew out of believing in the possibility of any of it being real. That being said many supernatural stories are narratively interesting, and fun to enjoy as fiction. My favorite ghosts and cryptids channel is Bedtime Stories because their narration, unique artistic interpretations of events, and scripts are just so dam good. I like Simons approach as a skeptic and I like Bedtime Stories as fiction.
No there's actually nobody known by name from 10,000 years ago. The earliest person in writing, was named Kushim, he lived around 6,000 years ago. And I believe the Kushim Tablet was a receipt for barley or wheat or something.
Simon and team, can you please do an episode on "The Lake City Quiet Pills" Reddit theory/conspiracy. Seems like a good fit for this channel, though your latest CC episode is what made me remember it. Thanks for any consideration.
Unfortunately the Garda (Irish Police Force) have a reputation of being unable to find their arse in their trousers, let alone clues in crimes or missing persons. The unsolved serious crime numbers in Ireland something to behold, Ireland is a lovely place to visit but if yoy do go and a crime is committed against you, don't expect any perpetrator to be found.
Videos on this guy (or rather: the comments on them) made me realize that I'm not the only person on earth to remove those pesky labels on my clothing - _despite_ my parents claiming so, back in the day xD So uhh... Thank you, UA-cam commenters!
I was so pleased when I bought a shirt with a perforated collar tag so you could tear it off, no such luck with the washing instructions at the waist though, though those don't annoy me
American here: I know what CCTV is because of international usage of the term, but it's rarely used over here. We mainly just call them security cameras.
I just have to say I have never met someone that has actual struggled with suicidal thoughts that doesnt love a good suicide joke. Only people who get upset are the people who haven't had to deal with that mentally from my own personal experiences. They dont realize that sometimes some dark humor is therapeutic, they misconstrue it as being insensitive.
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 do you have a reference? Everywhere I've looked in official sources indicate that what you said about triggering veterans is absolute stinking bullshit.
My roommate and I had a long conversation about this prompted by what Simon said. Sometimes it feels like people that feel “triggered” by their friends’ suicide feels a little victim-blamey I.e. “how could they have done this tragic thing to ME?!” instead of thinking something like “wow the person must have been suffering I hope they can find peace now.” As well as the fact that you can’t self-victimize. People also seem to treat suicide like the disease itself rather than a symptom.
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 1. I knew of a soldier whose trigger was the smell of BBQ (don’t ask 😬) 2. as happy as you are to let hypothetical people die for reasons they couldn’t possibly expect, trigger warnings and safe spaces exist to ease traumatized individuals back into society where they’ll inevitably have to face their triggers, hopefully without the traumatic association. overuse of trigger warnings can actually _reinforce_ trauma by letting them avoid it entirely.
@@oscaranderson5719 oh no... oh he witnessed someone getting burnt, didn't he? I've heard survivors of bombings say that burnt flesh smells like some sort of putrid bbq, clearly a meat smell but not in a good way.
Let's just imagine your 2 decades older, Simon. Your kids are grown and out of the nest. One of them goes missing. Unbeknownst to you, they did what this peter guy has done. Gone to another country and did everything in their power to erase any evidence of who thwy were and offed themselves. Imagine how you would feel as a parent not knowing what happened to your child. Wouldn't you do everything in your power to find them and bring them home? You are pissing all over someone's missing loved one. Even if peter was absolutely alone in this world, he still deserves the love and respect of his fellow human beings. That love and respect includes figuring out who he was so he can have the sort of burial he might have wanted if he hadn't suffered from cancer and depression. I don't know about everyone else but i wouldn't want to burried with some random stranger...
He might have been mailing out final letters, and personal mementos to friends and family…taking one bagful at a time. He did buy stamps, so he might have dropped the contents in a mailbox.🖤🇨🇦
They say he did send eight envelopes, perhaps its caught on camera putting the stamps on, etc. but they have no idea of what was written on the envelopes , or where they were sent to .
Just as a note on life insurance, depending on the insurer, companies will pay out as soon as your diagnosed with anything terminal, even if you end up surviving.
Definitely behind the "you problem" thing. If something triggers you, that's your problem, don't make it mine. Being "offended" means literally nothing. As a German I don't like it when people make Nazi jokes, but I won't go around and demand everyone stop making jokes because I don't like them.
Btw, the British still call it a "swimming costume". You guys are adorable. And how many stone did the mystery man weigh, you stubbornly archaic, beautifully wonderful weirdos? Love and kisses, An American
This address simply doesn't exist. The 44 at the beginning of the post code means it's somewhere in southern Upper Austria, somewhere near Styer, about 2½ hours from Vienna.
Simon: Funerals are for the living, when you die you no longer give a shit because you're dead. Also Simon: People need to respect the dead guys wish to remain anonomous!
Simon asserting that he intended to swim out to sea to kill himself based on the fact that he saw it in a movie once is the most Simon thing I've ever heard. Also, Simon, if he swam out to sea (to kill himself) and had heart failure while swimming out, he still would have had signs of drowning. It's not as if when you suffer heart failure you just stop breathing and die immediately. He would still have salt water in his lungs.
true, but if he drowned he wouldn't show signs of having a heart attack at the time. If he is having a heart attack, he cannot swim. so they say cause of death = heart attack...with drowning a bit of the cause. So they can only say he was having a heart attack , and they cannot say his intention at the time.
Thank you for keeping me sane for 6 weeks in the hospital and I’ve just been bingeing your content! I also have severe hearing loss and listen through hearing aids and captions but I couldn’t understand why you kept calling yourself “Fat Boy”…. I have recovered enough to figure out it is “FaCt Boy” and I consider that a milestone 😂 Thank you for keeping me with it - literally!
I think this case is more sad than it is mysterious or malevolent. I think he basically wanted to leave this world and for no-one to know who he was or why he did it. He was terminally ill and wanted to go out on his own terms. Maybe he was religious and thought suicide would make him look bad, so did it "secretly". He didn't want to cause a fuss and go through chemo or treatment, he just wanted to disappear. Hence the disposing of items (I've always assumed they were maybe paperwork attributable to him or personal belongings). He wanted to go somewhere picturesque but random [where no-one would know him], use a fake name and erase himself from history and then disappear. Joe Scott did a great video on this case and I agree with his view that he shouldn't dig too deep into this, as tantalising a mystery as it is. This man's final wishes were (*SEEMINGLY*) to disappear into nothing. It seems unfair to shine a light onto his life. I very much doubt he was a spy or a serial killer, he was a depressed man coming to terms with his mortality and going out on his own terms. The heart attack was a coincidence, he wanted to be swept away and drown out at sea, making it even harder to find out about him. If you wanted to disappear, using a fake name and address, travelling somewhere totally random (from Vienna to Sligo is a bloody weird holiday) where no-one can possibly know who you are, dispose of your belongings and anything with your DNA or details on it and then try to die in a place where you likely wouldn't be found (at sea in the middle of the night) is a pretty good way of doing it. I say we honour what I assume was his wishes, we simply name him Peter Bergman and let him stay a mystery.
Time stamp 3:09 - Simon, you didn't do anything wrong with your joke. While yes, content and trigger warnings are kind and considerate, there are many ways in which individuals carrying trauma etc such as myself, are able to navigate the world and engage with content. My triggers are MY responsibility. Just as yours are your own. We can all strive to be kind considerate and compassionate humans. However, it is not fair to super impose the emotional turmoil and other states onto other people. Personally, I have always found the concept 'you triggered me' a distinctly disempowering one. It is giving over my power and my ability to remain stable and comfortable over to other people. Even if this were reasonable, we aren't mind-readers, and therefore my subjective inner experience and that exterior array of triggers might apply to me, but not another survivor etc. Yes, we know of a variety of specific topics which do necessitate a content or trigger warning. However, for example, I also have a big trigger around feeling ignored and shut out. This in a number of situations can be challenging to navigate, as I also speak quite quietly lol So people aren't always clear when I've finished speaking. Even so, things get lost in the shuffle especially in larger conversations with one or more engaging. So that is something that is my responsibility to manage and regulate. It's also incredibly common to use dark humour as a coping mechanism for ones own wounds, and the presumption you should mitigate other people's triggers by censoring your own possible coping mechanisms, is essentially saying 'my trauma is more important than your mental state' as it were. This all frustrates me, if you couldn't tell by the lengthy-ish comment, because it makes people incredibly distrustful of the use of trigger and content warnings, debases the underlying rational for their use. It also creates a somewhat 'flooding' situation in which so many things are unnecessarily warned, that naturally we can become a bit immune filtering them out. This means when there is a legitimate warning, those who rely on them might not have seen the m. This again, is our responsibility individually to ensure we make note of the provided warnings, but it kind of waters down their efficacy inherently, and the concepts meaning overall. Sorry, that went longer than I intended.
It's very odd that no one who once knew him has ever come forward to say so. Surely one day someone will see these videos on him and they'll throw some light on this man's life? Also very odd that he was sufficiently clued up on all the CCTVs. Added to this, if a person had such advanced illness, this would make it very difficult to even concentrate or be able to walk around in pain without painkillers, let alone work out CCTV coverage. Then there's the writing followed by tearing up of said writing. No one has ever found out anything about his journey into Ireland. If he made any arrangements for family to inherit anything - and was posting them details of a will - they couldn't claim it because they'd have no death certificate. Obviously we have no idea if he or what he posted. To me, I am inclined to think there may well be something mysterious about this case. But as mentioned, surely one day someone who knew or encountered him will see one of the videos or photos along with details of the case, and simply say what they know. I can't believe that all such acquaintances would just shrug and keep the mystery going, when there's so much speculation. If no one ever does, it gives more weight to the idea that he moved in very unusual and secretive circles, whatever they might be. Maybe he even had a different appearance in the past. Someone knows something about him.
The part of the story that intrigues me the most was when he wrote something on paper, then tore it up and threw it away. Seems to me that he was struggling with the burden of having some info, personal or otherwise, that he wanted to share/confess, and then he opted to not share it. A farewell? A confession? An accusation? The code number for a locker that contains the remains of Jesus Christ? Haha.
Probably just him taking inventory and making sure he remembered everything he needed to wrap up. Probably wouldn’t have even done much to ID him if they did find it.
Simone,........................... if the guy was planning to cash in on Insurance he would have had to make sure they could IDENTIFY him. If you own Life Insurance, after 2 Years the "Contemplation Of Death" (suicide) clause is no longer in effect in most countries.
5:18 So was it several bags that he filled and took several places? If he’s in from out of town, where would he go to drop off a plastic bag just to return with the same bag. Unless he was trying to be inconspicuous, a) you wouldn’t think he’d choose purple, b) if it was anything valuable, you’d think he’d choose different packaging. Although, like I said, one would expect something like a briefcase to be filled with something important/expensive than a plastic grocery bag.
I love every episode of "Simon boggles extensively about things explained a sentence later".
No fun without the guessing :D
@@decodingtheunknown2373 I actually love this about simon. Best part of his reads!
Weirdly that's a huge part of the charm of this channel. I can't explain.
If "Peter" had been my father I would appreciate the detectives searching for answers. My father was missing for 16 years. They finally found him living with a couple who were abusing him. He was mental ill and also had health problems that left him bedridden most of the time.
He was finally able to call adult protection services and get out of there. He finally got the help he needed and he passed away last year surrounded by loved ones.
You never know who may be searching for answers. "Peter" could have family but didn't want to burden them. I could see my father trying that before APS contacted us about him.
I am so so sorry for what happened to your poor father and I'm also very sorry for what you're family must have gone through! I'm really glad that when he passed, he was surrounded by family and loved ones. Blessed be lovely 🌜💜xxx
Thank you for relaying this story, it helps me ❤️
Thank you for sharing that perspective. And I'm sorry.
How did he go missing?
@@btetschner he was living with his brother (my uncle) in Oklahoma City. My uncle was put in the hospital after a heart attack. Some time before my uncle came home my father stole or sold everything of value and left. We thought after a week he would come back.. Like he had before. Well he didn't this time. Turns out a pair of sisters took him in. Its a long story after that.
My family is still searching for my other uncle who went missing after the Korean War. His name is William Larry Mckim but he goes by Larry. We know he married a south korean lady and had a child named George. Our family hasn't heard from him since the early 70s. So when my father went missing it was especially hard for his remaining siblings.
my uncle had bone cancer and tumors. it is the most painful illness.... a man in pain not taking any medication wouldn't be able to sleep and would eventually go crazy. because of that it's easy to imagine someone wanting to die with dignity instead of in huge amounts of pain in a hospital bed with the tumors shattering his bones from the inside out!!! seeing someone you care about in such a painful horrible state is truly one of the most heart wrenching things.... i understand the man not wanting to bother his family with his situation and to just go out somewhere peaceful while he could still move on his own two feet before the cancer made him bed ridden and the tumors shattering his bones.
They have some pretty good drugs these days. I had a strangulated hernia and it felt like someone was pulling my intestines out. They gave me a shot of Dilaudid in the hospital and I was feeling no pain then. I mean I felt great! Never better in fact. I felt so good it was scary. But only in retrospect. I didn't have a care in the world at the time.
@@1pcfred so... You had terminal cancer?
Just asking... For a friend... So I can point out how your story is not at all relatable to patients dying of cancer. Not trying to be an ass but that's how you're coming came off as right now
Watching people die of cancer, with hospice medication is hard...
Watching families let a member suffer, without proper end of life care because of misconception/religious reasons makes nurses very angry.. and there's not much we can do.
@@Adrian-zd4cs that's messed up the family wont let someone who is about to die take pain meds. and then in my uncles case. his tolerance was so high from years of drug use and misdiagnosed cancers. more than four times the doctors said the amount of drugs they were going to shoot him up with was going to kill him and four times they were wrong. they had to use all the drugs in their hospital and because of the huge amounts of drugs that were necessary to relieve his pain from the cancer that spread to his bones in seattle the hospitals rewrote their drug administering policy for the terminally ill.
Prostate cancer, even with extensive metastasis, can be asymptomatic.
Let me just drop this here.
My parents had the conversation about our end of life care but I could never (I'm a nurse) get them to do living wills, etc -
I came home from travel nursing in mid 2019 - Dad got sick right before Covid... The Mom fell in November 2020, she died in December 2020, I was able to get her home less than 24 hours before she died. (In the home my parents built)
My Dad wasn't healthy to begin with but he'd lost his wife of 35 years. My promise to my Dad was that he wouldn't suffer.
He didn't but it doesn't make it easier on me..
He died 4 months after Mom.
Please, talk with your family about death. What are your wishes, what are your families wishes... Covid complicated so much.. thankfully we had hospice because if not - my Dad would have found another way.
I relate my Dad to Mr. Bergman - he was so private - just wanted to move on and not leave a mess for everyone else.
Y'all - we all die. Please discuss it with your loved ones, make living wills, let them know how you want to be "cared for" in death..
And review and update it regularly. People you mention in it may fall before you or fall out of favor,.
Sorry, I accidentally hit dislike when I meant to hit like.
My parents have everything sorted and a GPS locator thingy for us to find the EXACT spot where they want their ashes to be placed (in a rock salt urn, in a Rockpool). No funeral but a get together afterwards.
Both my parents died intestate.
I think part of the reason there was so much investigation was because that's the basic work police do when a deceased person shows up. For 1) to ensure no foul play and 2) to track down next of kin if possible.
As another person with a father who vanished without a trace, I'd definitely would want the police to leave no stone unturned in identifying him (assuming my father is dead). In the grand scheme of things, who he truly was means nothing, but there's always the possibility that one person is out there for whom this mystery is their world.
There is only so much that can ever be done before other things must be tended to.
how is this guy on every other well-produced YT channel lol
Kudos to Jen for locating The Sommerton Man video. He didn't even think of the right channel. I love it when Simon references past videos he only vaguely remembers creating.
Its probably hard to remember when you do 900 channels and as many videos every day lmao. I love all his channels though they are all interesting.
Kudos to Jen for all the things. I frequently make it a point to publicly stan, because of badassery.
@@heatherbrenner8275 pretty much completely agree, even if some of the channels don't get many uploads anymore I'm a Simon simp and I'm subbed to em all B)
To be honest, there is a search engine on a youtube channel that allows you to search for a video's title...
And besides, Simon has admitted he is using old biographics videos for the Casual Criminalist (like Ed Gein) or Decoding the Unknown
It's a good story. Probably a conspiracy involving several spy agencies that resulted in a love story decades later it's great. They were exhuming him to test the DNA of his suspected child and then COVID hit. I'm gonna go dive down that hole again. ✌️
One thing I can tell you is that despite belonging to a company that distributes all over europe
the particular kind of soap he was carrying was at that time only distributed
to a small collection of care homes in Brittany, France.
This info might be helpful.
DTU, CC, BB are the crown jewels of the Whistler-verse!
Whistler-verse 😂 pretty accurate with the multitude of channels Simon has
I've tried watching Back Blaze. I couldn't make it past the first few minutes.
CC?
@@bruced6543 Casual Criminalist
@@jajssblue thank you
My hunch is that "Peter" was a loner type without much family (fairly common among middle-aged Germans and Austrians due to WWII killing so many there), he knew he was going to die and didn't want to die in a hospital, and probably mistakenly thought that the waves would just take him out to sea never to be found or be thought of. Considering that both the UK and Ireland have always had "hard" border crossings (non-Schengen) with airports that have lots of cameras that are archived, it would have been relatively easy for authorities to at least pinpoint what flight he arrived on and probably trace him back to his point of origin. Bergmann's attention to detail, knowledge of how to avoid evidence of his identity, and ability to tolerate pain suggest to me that he was likely former military, police, security service, something like that. His likely letters home make me believe that the few people whom he felt close to knew what he did and are just keeping quiet to respect his privacy (again, Germans and Austrians are really sensitive about privacy). Considering how this was handled by the police, I think that the authorities in Ireland and the UK at some level know exactly who he was and why he did this, and just refused to disclose his identity out of respect for what were his last wishes.
I hope for this.
Clearly it was his dying wish to be left alone and move on...
I posted a comment about both perspectives but, yeah - this. Let him be.
@@Adrian-zd4cs Yes indeed. I think that those points are just about certain. A lot of people seem to assume he must have been some kind of criminal because of how far he went to hide his identity, but I highly doubt that. What would a dying criminal have to gain from hiding his identity? This clearly all was about dying anonymously and not having any fuss made over his death.
I think if the assumption of him disposing of adult diapers is correct he was doing it for modesty and he walked up and down the beach because he didn't want anyone to see him wearing them or remove them to go in the water. Then at night when everyone was gone he was free to get in. He was old and in poor health. Swimming is hard on the body maybe just swimming caused the heart attack. Hell people die of heart attacks going to the bathroom. This may have been a bucket list thing he had always wanted to do and end of life there's no time like the present. Folding his clothes and placing them I've seen people do it almost something that was engrained in them growing up.
@@dragen179 I agree that adult diapers might be one of the things he was disposing of (although I suspect that a passport or ID was among them). But note that he did travel on a false name, give a fake address, remove tags from clothes, travel by bus in a rural location, and leave no id or anything which could lead to an identification in his room or his beach bag. In isolation one of these might be dismissed. But Ask yourself when any of these things could be said about most of us? My second level hunch is that he knew that the exertion of swimming would cause a fatal heart attack, and that he wrongly expected to be washed out to sea and his body never to be found.
@@dragen179 If they were adult nappies and he’d previously been on chemotherapy that would make the purple bags make sense as well. Generally cytotoxic/cytostatic medical waste (i.e. - from cancer treatments) is disposed of in purple bags. Maybe he had a supply of them if he’d previously been on chemo and didn’t know how long he needed to use them for (or that the colour is because they need to be disposed of carefully, but anyway…)
First Time I've received a content warning on a Simon video. Which is crazy, I listen to Casual Criminalist all the time
I like how he always asks a question then the very next sentence or 2 answers it.
Yep, we do know the term CCTV here in the US. Most people just call them security cameras, but the term is known and used.
Regarding the "failure" of the hotel to get his ID upon check-in, there's a chance he chose a cheap hotel so that he could slip the desk clerk a big tip to "forget" to ask for ID. As Simon pointed out, it's peculiar that he would specifically ask for a cheap hotel then take taxis. I'm sure the police investigated that idea, but since it wasn't mentioned I thought I'd bring it up. You're welcome.
Never been asked for ID in cheap hotels in Ireland, just not really a thing unless paying by card.
In America if you go to a pay per day motel you don't need ID. You can also pay cash. I went to one once with a significant other so we had a place to go be alone together while staying with my parents and we paid cash and didn't show ID. I was 21 and he was 22 and the sign said we needed to be 25. They didn't ask for any proof we were.
Might be more of an urban thing. I have never heard anyone in Montana say CCTV. I only know the term from BBC lol
Lmao no one said "thank you"
I regularly remove the tags from my clothes because they're very itchy and I have very sensitive skin.
Very interesting video. Great job Simon and team! 😊👏💯
Especially bras!
@@ceeleegee825 Those are just uncomfortable in general.
There was a case of a woman in a Nordic country like this (I want to say Sweden). Nearly identical case and also removed tags
As an American, at least speaking from my experiences, I’d say MOST people know what CCTV means, or at least what it is. But, generally I think we default to “security cameras.”
I think it's kinda nice to have a case where the mystery is not only not solved, but there's discussion of how it probably doesn't NEED to be solved & that there's a good argument for leaving it alone. I hope this man found some dignity & peace in choosing his exit from the world.
I think identifying the dead is an incredibly important task. You have to ensure that if he did have any family or friends, they know what happened. And it gives the person more dignity than an unmarked grave.
This seems very one sided. Simon makes it clear his opinion stems from the fact that the guy doesn’t want to be identified. The deceased persons wishes should matter here. Also, given how popular this case is, it’s likely this guy either had no living relatives or he communicated his wishes to them ahead of time. It is hard to imagine this would still be a mystery if people were looking for the guy when we have so many pictures of him.
@@rednivalwell said.
If you don’t want people to ever know who you are, then buried in an unmarked grave would likely suit just fine. If they wanted to be remembered and immortalised in name and have all their private struggles exposed then they wouldn’t have made the effort to try and disappear. Not everyone wants to be found, you can’t assume everyone thinks like you is all.
@@rednivalthe deceased person's wishes only matter to an extent. His family deserves closure, they deserve to know what happened to him. If they know due to the letters, then fine, but if they don't then they should be told.
I like how that other case mentioned who hung himself was handled. His family were found, got closure, and asked to keep his identity private.
That's how the Bergman case should be handled, the police should run his DNA through ancestry websites with the explicit agreement from those sites that they will not store the results, if an identifiable relative is located they are contacted, informed, and then asked if they are okay with his identity being recorded or if they are okay with observing his wish to seemingly be unidentified. If the latter, the police simply make a statement of "Peter Bergman has been identified and next of kin informed of his fate. To observe both his wishes and that of his family, he will remain 'Peter Bergman' and we will offer no further information." And boom, case closed and importantly most people will stop looking. A lot of people still looking are concerned the family lack closure, and want them to know, either due to personal experience or just empathy they think it's cruel to never know. As soon as they're informed that his family know, they'll lose all motivation, even if they lack the answer themselves
@@DahliaVonHellionlike I just said in my other comment but kept brief, I think the family deserve to know he is deceased and how he spent his final days. He's gone, and the concern that loved ones may be forever wondering where their father went and what happened is horrific. They deserve to know he was at peace and died seemingly quickly due to cardiac arrest, and that his final act was to go for a late night swim, so that would be his last memories. I'd want to know. There's a chance the letters informed them, but in case they didn't they should be told, even if only next of kin is told and the file closed with a public statement of "we know who he was, family was told, we won't be speaking further"
Simon, I absolutely love how you refuse to big things up on this or your other channels.
Bro, you're going to be remembered for as long as your videos exist. You have so many channels EVERYONE I know has seen you somewhere.
I worked at a hotel for a while until a few years ago. We always required ID and a credit card for a deposit even if you were paying cash in case you trashed the room. The number of people who got super indignant at that policy and even left for another place that apparently didn't have that policy goes to show this is possible even as of 2017. Also had a guy try to pay me like $20 to let him stay in a room off the books one time and just say it "got missed" in the prior day cleaning or that someone stayed in the room for a bit but complained and left. He got huffy and left when I told him no, lol.
I have a father that committed suicide and Ive never been offended by Simon’s asides on it, sometimes being silly about something actually makes it easier to cope with.
Only thing that ever really threw me into a bad mental state one could say I was “triggered” was *Dead Poet Society* and that is only because I had no idea THAT scene was coming, and its a very emotional sad scene.
I feel like real people suffering from X will find jokes of said thing funny while people trying to be cute will be "triggered" because then they get more attention.
I had a bit of a psychotic break a little over a year ago, I make joke about it because they try to tiptoe around me. As for me, there was a very angry hurt part of me that needed my attention. I am feeling better every day.
@@jacobyakus8620 not fair, Jacob. Everybody's coping mechanism is different. My father used to joke that he won't live till 60. My mother died in her unfinished 55. Once my father made that joke after her death, I was furious with him. To be fair, it turned out not to be a joke after all. I've dealt with their deaths after a while but it was a very difficult time of my life and I would lash out sometimes, not even wanting to. It just hurt too much. So even though I agree with Simon, that it's not his fault, suicide can be a very sensitive topic and it's not fair assuming that people are missusing it to get other people's sympathy.
@@makinka0cp honestly your father should've read the room. Making a joke about a dead person at a funeral would probably get a lot of people upset. Making that same joke on the internet (if its good) would probably get some laughs.
I've grown to appreciate trigger warnings, because one time something did trigger me. It had to do with the death of my mom. Normally, I don't care, I even joke about it myself sometimes. But someone said something to me (I don't even remember what it was) and I just lost it. It was some completely inoffensive thing that just clicked in my brain in a certain way and I couldn't regain composure for like an hour or two.
Simon, the term CCTV is used in America. It's the technical term that refers to the type of camera. Security camera refers to how it is used
I think some Americans may not know about them because they aren't as prevalent here as they are in England.
@@scottbubb2946 Actually, we (USA) have the highest CCTV cameras per capita. It's just the term "CCTV" isn't as prevalent. I don't know any Americans that use CCTV as a casual term for security camera or security/surveillance systems.
@@FluffyEmmy1116 Oh, okay, thank you. I guess it's probably because I live in a very small town. The first time I heard of CCTV was on UA-cam and I had no idea what it was.
@@scottbubb2946 if you'd have paid closer attention to small type on various electronics like your tv you would have seen it many times
@@wingerding Sorry, I don't have a TV. I haven't had one in 20 years. I also don't get out much because I'm disabled and I can't walk. So no, even if I was paying attention, I wouldn't have seen it.
I can't find it on anything I have.
There’s not a single County in my beautiful country of Eire that hasn’t got magnificent scenery and great people 💚🇮🇪
2:25 - Chapter 1 - The strange and sorry tale
11:05 - Chapter 2 - The mystery deepens
13:25 - Chapter 3 - The aim of the trip
20:35 - Chapter 4 - The name & adress
24:40 - Chapter 5 - The purple plastic bag
29:40 - Chapter 6 - The trip to the post office
31:35 - Chapter 7 - The autopsy report
33:00 - Chapter 8 - A couple of clues
35:25 - Chapter 9 - A solvable mystery
39:35 - Conclusion
Saying this as someone who has been suicidal since adolescence (so 2+ decades): I'm not bothered by suicide asides or discussions. Sometimes the topic is pertinent to the discussion, and sometimes a dark joke is the best response. I AM bothered when it's used for shock value (especially shock value masquerading as "awareness") & shown in detail, but even then, it's not to the point where it will trigger flashbacks/urges/panic attacks/etc - I just think it's trashy at best & will judge anyone who does it/enjoys it likewise.
I find a lot of people have decided that "triggered" means "this makes me uncomfortable" instead of "this makes me relive a harmful experience as though it is actively happening again", which is what it DID mean until kids on the internet decided to do what they do best & rob a perfectly useful specific term of all meaning via overuse.
THAT SAID, dying as an unidentifiable person about whom nothing is known sure is a way to obtain some kind of immortality as an "unsolved mystery". Whoever Mr. Bergmann was, I tip my hat to him making himself a legend, given name or no.
hey! I'm also someone who has struggled with suicidal ideation since adolescence (I think it started around 11, so just under 15 years ago) and I think you're spot on here. Especially with the 'triggered' assessment. It's frustrating that the word has been hijacked and stripped of its severity (much like gaslight), I'm particularly irritated by it because I have a few very dear friends / loved ones who live with complex PTSD. What they go through is devastating. To use the word as a means of inferring annoyance or discomfort completely undermines the lived experiences of those navigating trauma responses in their daily lives. I don't think most people who use the word in that way even mean any harm, but still.
@RealElongatedMuskrat my suicidal ideation started around a similar age or just younger. Still dealing with it at nearly 30. Fucking sucks
In my area we had a similar case, a young man called Lyle Stevick. They finally identified him 17 years later, although the family wanted his name withheld. Some snoops online found out his name, but I thought that was kind of a shit move being that the family had requested otherwise.
There’s another few cases like this, including a Christmas Eve Jane Doe who suicided in a children’s cemetery many years ago, and another similar Jane Doe from another hotel whose photo haunts me. It’s just so eerie- like the Lyle Stevik photos in a way. 🤷♀️ It’s just so odd to know someone went so far out of their way to avoid inconveniencing their loved ones.
Simon's side rants and off subject verbal vomiting is part of the entertainment.
Hey, he might save someone's life. In one episode he went off talking about carbon monoxide detectors and it reminded me I needed to replace mine. If anyone starts seeing ghosts around here it won't be because of that lol.
I always love Jen's editing and effects.
With the purple bags, it could be for medical reasons. In Australia and the UK any medical waste that may have cytotoxic and cytostatic drug contamination (I.e. - from cancer treatment) must be disposed of in these specific purple bags. I believe this has been since 1990. I know they said he wasn’t on any treatment at autopsy, but maybe he’d gotten into the habit of any medical/body waste (e.g. - the adult nappies) went into these purple bags, and he had a supply of them from when he was on chemo/treatment.
i stayed in a lot of hotels and b&bs in ireland around that time and unless you were paying by cheque or credit card no one ever asked for ID, ID was only asked for in order to secure payment which was not required if you were paying cash
yeah it's very very informal here still to this day, in cities and chain hotels that have multiple establishments you're much more likely to be asked for ID but a lot is still done on trust here. Which is strangely sweet and also alarming in a way, it's part of the charm I guess. Everyone is very chill. I've gotten on boats and planes that are supposed to check ID and I've just been let through, even when I've been holding my ID out to someone. It's pretty crazy.
In the US at least, life insurance payouts in the event of suicide is dependent on the individual policy. Usually life insurance will payout if the suicide happens more than two years after the policy date.
And history only goes back about 5100 years, probably the oldest named person to demonstrably exist was narmer of egypt
was that the clerk who signed off documents?
@@elizabethveldonstuff that was the first king of unified egypt. There are names or symbols known from people that preceded him, but none that have contemporary inscriptions (that i know of).
@@christiangrantz6906 ah, thanks. i remember reading somewhere about a clerk who signed off documents as being one of the first people with a name in history
Yes, that's what I was thinking
Don’t worry Simon. You’ll be remembered for having an anomalous number of UA-cam channels for a human being that presumably needs to sleep or eat.
He is one of a number of clones
The part about him hiding the adult diapers made me so sad. He could have been someone's dad. I've heard this story before but it has never made me sad until now. Idk something about that detail/possiblity broke my heart 💔
I watched my father-in-law get ill and die from cancer and he had to wear diapers too. It hurts even more to imagine him in terrible pain, trying to hide them and then taking his own life, all while completely alone. My heart breaks for Peter and any loved ones he left behind.
I don't know why this case intrigues me so much. All the accounts of it seem to reach the same strong suspicion and I concur with it, yet I will excitedly click on anything about it I haven't seen before.
If I just close my eyes and ask myself to be honest about it, I think it's that I identify with Peter. I do a lot of stuff out in the world, surrounded by people, but alone, and I'm often doing stuff that would strike most people as unusual because I have weird hobbies. So I guess I just like Peter for his mystique.
I share the same sentiments 😅
Hell yeah! I've always been interested in this case! Thanks Simon and co. 🍻
To make it maybe a bit less mysterious, maybe there was only one purple plastic bag? After he'd done whatever--maybe dropped a parcel in a post box--perhaps he just folded up the bag and put it in his pocket. I took something to a neighbor the other day and that's what I did.
They could have been medical waste bags. Bags containing cytostatic/cytotoxic waste (e.g. - from patients on cancer treatments) is colour coded purple.
No you didn't listen
It's so sweet how Simon doesn't assume someone avoiding identification and secretly disposing of things is a threat to national security. Here in the states you can be arrested for giving a cop a fake name, because anyone lying about their identity is clearly a criminal😂 Also, my dad died after prostate cancer spread throughout his body so I absolutely support that this man was willing to walk along the beach until he had a heart attack or decided to swim until he died, just to end his suffering sooner rather than later. In that case, I assume he was disposing of his kinky or sketchy stuff throughout town just in case he was able to be identified after death. Nothing worse than having people find your dildos or collection of human teeth after you die🙃
U get arrested in literally every country I've ever been to plus the UK if you give fake details to the police.......... Not a states thing 🤣
@@matthoward7645 honestly after he said you can just whip it out and take a piss on the side of the road and not worry about anything happening I stopped assuming US laws were universal😂
@@auntbee6993 I think that really depends on how the person takes the leak if it's against a wall or up corner out of sight perfectly okay but just whipping your thing out in a public place with people on looking is where the problem would arise I suppose & yes it's illegal in the uk to expose yourself in public but there is common sense applied so if you really needed to go for a pee & proceeded to have a pee in public it just depends how you went about it I suppose 😂😂
@@Rob17Cotton Here in Norway its illegal to pee in the public who includes if hidden, but then the police will not see you, out in the wood its obviously legal but not in back streets or parks.
My daughter left her diary after moving out. Yes I read some of it. Information overload doesn't even begin to explain it! I asked her if she wanted to keep it and she said yes. Then I asked if she wanted her kids to read it when she died. She said "Burn it!" As Simon has said many times "Don't write about your crimes!" Lol!!!
I love that Simon says he would be a lousy detective: "just throw that junk out." Good thing he isn't one 😆
I was so confused when I started this video, I was sure you had covered it before. I had to pause and search real quick and realized it was Joe Scott's video I had seen. 😂
I thought the same thing, but I was too lazy to search for it, so just came to the comments, and found you. Yeah, I remember Joe's video, glad Fact Boy is doing it.
@@casfacto It was a nice balance of Joe explaining more of the spy theory and Simon completely dismissing it.
Thanks, Jen. Always the star of the show. 💯
I've been intrigued by this one since I first heard of it. I agree with Simon, yes, the poor man should have the privacy he wanted, but still, I wish we had a name for him, in case someone out there is missing him and waiting for him to come home.
He did send his letters. If he had someone out there, it's likely they at least received a letter saying "I'm going to be dead soon, don't look for me, I don't want to be found, and enjoy the life insurance".
I told a dead baby joke once and a lady that was eavesdropping my convo with a friend got mad and yelled at me.
As Austrian, the address provided immediately registers as false; Vienna (Wien) has zip codes that start with 1, not 4. This is very common knowledge around here, so if that person was from Austria, it strikes me as weird to use a made up address that is THAT far off... The street name is wonky too, but there's plenty of wierd street names around;
The life insurence stuff is also a dead end IMHO: if he did intent to do that, hiding his identity and having his real "me" disappear would certainly cause more issues than "drowned while swimming on vacation", no matter what policy...
The accent is all over the place in Austria; people speaking in local dialect of one end cannot undestand the local dialect of the other at times, so no fault if non Austrians can't tell the difference between "German German" and "Austrian German" - add that Bavaria has a rather close-to-austrian dialect too, it's muddled.
Came to critique the adress as well. All Viennese PLZ are 1xx0 where xx is the district of that Address
I assume it should be Einsteinstrasse.
@@i.b.640 yeah. I know. There some places in Bavaria with that name. But it seemed to ma as if someone who doesn’t speak German would write Einstein.
@@i.b.640 it's because you wrongly assume that most people are well educated 🤪
I always struggle with this case...
Part of me - he wanted to die alone and 'unknown'. Respect the wish of the dying.
The other part of me (Nursing) -
No one should have to die alone.
There is a difference between "having" to die alone and "wanting" to die alone. If he was just painfully shy, but was hoping someone would be with him, I doubt he would have taken such pains to be alone and unidentified. This seems to me that he was intensely private and desired anonymity.
Sligo pronounciation was spot on, it comes from the irish sligeach meaning place of the sea shells ,which is a perfect name for a coastal town
I think he even got gardai (gar dee) correct the first time but the changed to gar die after that.
1. You pronounce Sligo correctly
2. There are very few bus connections so taking a cab is plausible
3. Sligo is in fact tiny
4. I love the fact you say Derry rather than Londonderry. Honestly expected otherwise. Good on ya
Thank you, Jen for helping Simon out when he can’t remember the video’s he in.
It’s fun being the same age as you, Simon. It’s an odd time, being 35 and suddenly facing your mortality, and dealing with all these realizations 😂 Your comments and responses about death are what I’m going through, too 😅
I'd love to see a Decoding the Unknown on exorcism. That would be fun to debunk.
Wouldn’t Simon have to show that possession is real, first? Otherwise, there’s nothing to debunk.
It would be the equivalent of showing that unicorn exterminators are frauds -
@@ShawnPitman That's not really how it works. Some people claim they are real. That's what he needs to argue against, those claims. Same as debunking the existence of god. It can be debunked without having to prove it's real.
@@feraldelight but then you still end up getting to a point where somebody says "well I have faith that she was actually possessed and that the exorcism worked" and there's no amount of scientific proof that you could show that would change their mind. plus, there's not really any evidence that could show that in most exorcism cases, unless you're able to find one where they admitted to faking it. it's why debunking religion is generally just not worth the effort. you either believe or you don't, and an atheist's arguments will usually only reinforce other atheists and have no impact on the religious. so basically debunking exorcisms would just be preaching to the choir and mostly pointless
@@feraldelight Yes. We don't have to prove the reality of demons in order to prove that abusive, tortuous, sometimes deadly actions are performed on some people in the name of exorcisms. People with epilepsy are particularly in jeopardy from this type of maltreatment.
There is a biographics video on Gabriele Amorth, the Vatican's chief exorcist. But yeah I can see Simon doing a video about the 'idea' of exorcism, with some historical cases and his own skepticism, but it's not a thing you can really, officiall, scientifically debunk.
I agree though, that could be interesting.
If I'm ever diagnosed with a terminal disease and am still able to walk around when I get to the 2 weeks left mark I think I will give this a try. I think I can pull it off.
Thanks for the existential crisis Simon. This is what I come to this channel for
I could imagine the legend of the "fact boi" persisting well into the future, children gossiping about it in hushed tones and whatnot. "I heard he had so many youtube channels people didn't ever have to watch anything else", "oh yeah well I heard that buttcoiners tried to steal his channels but he defeated them with his majestic beard".
I'm surprised facial recognition hasn't tracked him down. If he ever had a photo ID in the last forty years, the photo should still exist in a database somewhere.
The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about the privacy argument is that we don't actually KNOW he wanted anonymity. Being extremely ill and in a lot of pain can really screw with your mind, and the false information he gave might not have been intentional. I'd say identifying him would absolutely be worthwhile for the sake of anyone he left behind, though Irish authorities must have trawled through every missing person report they could get their hands on, so it does seem likely that nobody was ever looking for him.
This one was mostly just really depressing.
I don't know about Austria, but Germany did not save ID photos in a central database before 2010.
Or being extremely ill with weeks to live he wanted to cross things off his bucket list, stopped taking his pain medication for clear mind and went to travel ending somewhere quiet.
Heck could had had fantasy of being a spy for most of his life but thought it as silly - until there's no reason not to do it for fun.
@@Lanka0Kera Yeah, I was just thinking he may have gone on one last grand tour, perhaps traveling all over Europe or even farther. The list he tore up could have been his literal bucket list, and when he crossed the last thing off, he tore it up, tossed it away and went down to the beach.
Do we know if the beach faced east or west? Maybe he wanted to see one last sunrise/set. Or maybe he liked looking at the stars.
As someone who occasionally needs trigger warnings, I think they are "needed" when it's going to be a shock or surprise in any way. For example: on this channel, anything more in depth than "he was thought to have..." I could see as needed. But on the casual criminalist I would say it's only needed if you're going IN DEPTH- why, how, etc.
I love how cynical and skeptical Simon is. Too may UA-camrs overdramatize things or try to make it into something more nefarious or even paranormal.
His commentaries are the same I have while he reads along or on other channels I may watch.
Same here. I appreciate the skepticism and science, plus it's unusually genuine and honest that he doesn't try to sensationalize. He even hangs a lampshade on how that's not the normal business model.
It's the premise of the channel..
Yeah I grew up interested in the supernatural as a kid but grew out of believing in the possibility of any of it being real. That being said many supernatural stories are narratively interesting, and fun to enjoy as fiction. My favorite ghosts and cryptids channel is Bedtime Stories because their narration, unique artistic interpretations of events, and scripts are just so dam good. I like Simons approach as a skeptic and I like Bedtime Stories as fiction.
Third Simon video of the day and it’s not even dinner
I would love to see you guys cover the boys on the tracks mystery, thanks as always and have a nice day
More of a criminalist one. That case seems pretty cut and dry.
The pronunciation of Sligo is actually spot on 🙌
I just hope he was able to feel okay for awhile while in Ireland...
No there's actually nobody known by name from 10,000 years ago. The earliest person in writing, was named Kushim, he lived around 6,000 years ago. And I believe the Kushim Tablet was a receipt for barley or wheat or something.
Beer!
Simon and team, can you please do an episode on "The Lake City Quiet Pills" Reddit theory/conspiracy. Seems like a good fit for this channel, though your latest CC episode is what made me remember it. Thanks for any consideration.
Love this channel. Hidden gem. 😊
Unfortunately the Garda (Irish Police Force) have a reputation of being unable to find their arse in their trousers, let alone clues in crimes or missing persons.
The unsolved serious crime numbers in Ireland something to behold, Ireland is a lovely place to visit but if yoy do go and a crime is committed against you, don't expect any perpetrator to be found.
Surreal as always. 💖
Videos on this guy (or rather: the comments on them) made me realize that I'm not the only person on earth to remove those pesky labels on my clothing - _despite_ my parents claiming so, back in the day xD
So uhh... Thank you, UA-cam commenters!
I was so pleased when I bought a shirt with a perforated collar tag so you could tear it off, no such luck with the washing instructions at the waist though, though those don't annoy me
You thought you were the only person in the world to do that until you read comments on missing person videos...?
American here: I know what CCTV is because of international usage of the term, but it's rarely used over here. We mainly just call them security cameras.
It's the technical term in America too. It's printed on everyone and on older tvs.
I just have to say I have never met someone that has actual struggled with suicidal thoughts that doesnt love a good suicide joke. Only people who get upset are the people who haven't had to deal with that mentally from my own personal experiences. They dont realize that sometimes some dark humor is therapeutic, they misconstrue it as being insensitive.
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 do you have a reference? Everywhere I've looked in official sources indicate that what you said about triggering veterans is absolute stinking bullshit.
My roommate and I had a long conversation about this prompted by what Simon said. Sometimes it feels like people that feel “triggered” by their friends’ suicide feels a little victim-blamey I.e. “how could they have done this tragic thing to ME?!” instead of thinking something like “wow the person must have been suffering I hope they can find peace now.” As well as the fact that you can’t self-victimize. People also seem to treat suicide like the disease itself rather than a symptom.
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 1. I knew of a soldier whose trigger was the smell of BBQ (don’t ask 😬)
2. as happy as you are to let hypothetical people die for reasons they couldn’t possibly expect, trigger warnings and safe spaces exist to ease traumatized individuals back into society where they’ll inevitably have to face their triggers, hopefully without the traumatic association.
overuse of trigger warnings can actually _reinforce_ trauma by letting them avoid it entirely.
Yup, they are being offended on behalf of others. It's a big problem in general nowadays.
@@oscaranderson5719 oh no... oh he witnessed someone getting burnt, didn't he? I've heard survivors of bombings say that burnt flesh smells like some sort of putrid bbq, clearly a meat smell but not in a good way.
Let's just imagine your 2 decades older, Simon. Your kids are grown and out of the nest. One of them goes missing. Unbeknownst to you, they did what this peter guy has done. Gone to another country and did everything in their power to erase any evidence of who thwy were and offed themselves. Imagine how you would feel as a parent not knowing what happened to your child. Wouldn't you do everything in your power to find them and bring them home? You are pissing all over someone's missing loved one. Even if peter was absolutely alone in this world, he still deserves the love and respect of his fellow human beings. That love and respect includes figuring out who he was so he can have the sort of burial he might have wanted if he hadn't suffered from cancer and depression. I don't know about everyone else but i wouldn't want to burried with some random stranger...
He might have been mailing out final letters, and personal mementos to friends and family…taking one bagful at a time. He did buy stamps, so he might have dropped the contents in a mailbox.🖤🇨🇦
They say he did send eight envelopes, perhaps its caught on camera putting the stamps on, etc. but they have no idea of what was written on the envelopes , or where they were sent to .
Have a nice weekend, Simon!
Just as a note on life insurance, depending on the insurer, companies will pay out as soon as your diagnosed with anything terminal, even if you end up surviving.
In the US, depending on state insurance laws, suicide clauses can expire in as little as one year.
Thank you for the video.
The background music was very loud…
Agree it drowned out Simons voice. Totally unnecessary.
Background music is ok but yeah that was annoying
Definitely behind the "you problem" thing.
If something triggers you, that's your problem, don't make it mine. Being "offended" means literally nothing.
As a German I don't like it when people make Nazi jokes, but I won't go around and demand everyone stop making jokes because I don't like them.
Btw, the British still call it a "swimming costume".
You guys are adorable. And how many stone did the mystery man weigh, you stubbornly archaic, beautifully wonderful weirdos?
Love and kisses,
An American
No we don’t 😂
This address simply doesn't exist. The 44 at the beginning of the post code means it's somewhere in southern Upper Austria, somewhere near Styer, about 2½ hours from Vienna.
Your talking about the Somerset man in Australia and his ID was recently found through DNA testing.
I do love your honesty Simon 😂
Yall should do an episode on The Mystery of Jennifer Fergate and room 2805. It’s similar but the circumstances and events are highly suspicious.
I love seeing this comment when he recently published the video on that!
Yesss!!!!! These videos are my drug!!!!!
Simon: Funerals are for the living, when you die you no longer give a shit because you're dead.
Also Simon: People need to respect the dead guys wish to remain anonomous!
I don't know. I might want a funeral so a friend can disrupt it in a comedic way.
One of your Filipino fans here. We also call them CCTV cameras here.
20:25 Simon veers away from the pits of depression again! Good job!
For the record, this is probably why religious people are happier.
The mighty Whistler beard looks great today 👌
CCTV is indeed a term used across America. I was also confused at having it defined.
It's because of the surprising number of people that only know of "cc" as closed captioning.
Simon asserting that he intended to swim out to sea to kill himself based on the fact that he saw it in a movie once is the most Simon thing I've ever heard.
Also, Simon, if he swam out to sea (to kill himself) and had heart failure while swimming out, he still would have had signs of drowning.
It's not as if when you suffer heart failure you just stop breathing and die immediately. He would still have salt water in his lungs.
true, but if he drowned he wouldn't show signs of having a heart attack at the time. If he is having a heart attack, he cannot swim. so they say cause of death = heart attack...with drowning a bit of the cause. So they can only say he was having a heart attack , and they cannot say his intention at the time.
@@isilder But they said there was absolutely no chance that he drowned because there were no signs of drowning, and no salt water in his lungs.
Thank you for keeping me sane for 6 weeks in the hospital and I’ve just been bingeing your content! I also have severe hearing loss and listen through hearing aids and captions but I couldn’t understand why you kept calling yourself “Fat Boy”…. I have recovered enough to figure out it is “FaCt Boy” and I consider that a milestone 😂 Thank you for keeping me with it - literally!
How about doing a video on supposed old world buildings(Churches, asylums etc.) hidden in plain site.
Do you mean like baal monuments?
I think this case is more sad than it is mysterious or malevolent. I think he basically wanted to leave this world and for no-one to know who he was or why he did it. He was terminally ill and wanted to go out on his own terms. Maybe he was religious and thought suicide would make him look bad, so did it "secretly". He didn't want to cause a fuss and go through chemo or treatment, he just wanted to disappear. Hence the disposing of items (I've always assumed they were maybe paperwork attributable to him or personal belongings). He wanted to go somewhere picturesque but random [where no-one would know him], use a fake name and erase himself from history and then disappear.
Joe Scott did a great video on this case and I agree with his view that he shouldn't dig too deep into this, as tantalising a mystery as it is. This man's final wishes were (*SEEMINGLY*) to disappear into nothing. It seems unfair to shine a light onto his life. I very much doubt he was a spy or a serial killer, he was a depressed man coming to terms with his mortality and going out on his own terms. The heart attack was a coincidence, he wanted to be swept away and drown out at sea, making it even harder to find out about him.
If you wanted to disappear, using a fake name and address, travelling somewhere totally random (from Vienna to Sligo is a bloody weird holiday) where no-one can possibly know who you are, dispose of your belongings and anything with your DNA or details on it and then try to die in a place where you likely wouldn't be found (at sea in the middle of the night) is a pretty good way of doing it. I say we honour what I assume was his wishes, we simply name him Peter Bergman and let him stay a mystery.
In the US DNA has been put into genetic ancestry sites and have solved cases this way. That is how they caught the Golden State Killer. 🙂🇨🇦
Time stamp 3:09 - Simon, you didn't do anything wrong with your joke. While yes, content and trigger warnings are kind and considerate, there are many ways in which individuals carrying trauma etc such as myself, are able to navigate the world and engage with content.
My triggers are MY responsibility. Just as yours are your own. We can all strive to be kind considerate and compassionate humans. However, it is not fair to super impose the emotional turmoil and other states onto other people.
Personally, I have always found the concept 'you triggered me' a distinctly disempowering one. It is giving over my power and my ability to remain stable and comfortable over to other people. Even if this were reasonable, we aren't mind-readers, and therefore my subjective inner experience and that exterior array of triggers might apply to me, but not another survivor etc.
Yes, we know of a variety of specific topics which do necessitate a content or trigger warning. However, for example, I also have a big trigger around feeling ignored and shut out. This in a number of situations can be challenging to navigate, as I also speak quite quietly lol So people aren't always clear when I've finished speaking. Even so, things get lost in the shuffle especially in larger conversations with one or more engaging. So that is something that is my responsibility to manage and regulate.
It's also incredibly common to use dark humour as a coping mechanism for ones own wounds, and the presumption you should mitigate other people's triggers by censoring your own possible coping mechanisms, is essentially saying 'my trauma is more important than your mental state' as it were.
This all frustrates me, if you couldn't tell by the lengthy-ish comment, because it makes people incredibly distrustful of the use of trigger and content warnings, debases the underlying rational for their use. It also creates a somewhat 'flooding' situation in which so many things are unnecessarily warned, that naturally we can become a bit immune filtering them out. This means when there is a legitimate warning, those who rely on them might not have seen the m. This again, is our responsibility individually to ensure we make note of the provided warnings, but it kind of waters down their efficacy inherently, and the concepts meaning overall.
Sorry, that went longer than I intended.
A great mystery I'd like to see on here is "The Man From Taured".
Simon's channel Xplrd covered that. Also if you havent already seen it the channel Thoughty2 did a video on it as well
@@aceundead4750 I must have missed it on Xplrd. Thanks!
@@dthedarkartist6709 no problem
It's very odd that no one who once knew him has ever come forward to say so. Surely one day someone will see these videos on him and they'll throw some light on this man's life?
Also very odd that he was sufficiently clued up on all the CCTVs. Added to this, if a person had such advanced illness, this would make it very difficult to even concentrate or be able to walk around in pain without painkillers, let alone work out CCTV coverage.
Then there's the writing followed by tearing up of said writing.
No one has ever found out anything about his journey into Ireland.
If he made any arrangements for family to inherit anything - and was posting them details of a will - they couldn't claim it because they'd have no death certificate. Obviously we have no idea if he or what he posted.
To me, I am inclined to think there may well be something mysterious about this case. But as mentioned, surely one day someone who knew or encountered him will see one of the videos or photos along with details of the case, and simply say what they know. I can't believe that all such acquaintances would just shrug and keep the mystery going, when there's so much speculation. If no one ever does, it gives more weight to the idea that he moved in very unusual and secretive circles, whatever they might be. Maybe he even had a different appearance in the past.
Someone knows something about him.
The part of the story that intrigues me the most was when he wrote something on paper, then tore it up and threw it away.
Seems to me that he was struggling with the burden of having some info, personal or otherwise, that he wanted to share/confess, and then he opted to not share it.
A farewell? A confession? An accusation? The code number for a locker that contains the remains of Jesus Christ?
Haha.
Could have been ticking things off of his to-do list...?
@@HopelessSinner
1. Pick up milk and bread
2. Kill myself in the ocean
3. Destroy evidence of milk and bread plan
Most likely meant absolutely nothing
Probably just him taking inventory and making sure he remembered everything he needed to wrap up. Probably wouldn’t have even done much to ID him if they did find it.
Simone,........................... if the guy was planning to cash in on Insurance he would have had to make sure they could IDENTIFY him. If you own Life Insurance, after 2 Years the "Contemplation Of Death" (suicide) clause is no longer in effect in most countries.
Thanks Jen 🎉
And Katy 🎉
Simon a bit of a Debbie downer in this one! Negative nelly!
Good video 👍
This whole topic could have been covered in 10 minutes.
Try 2 minutes
5:18 So was it several bags that he filled and took several places? If he’s in from out of town, where would he go to drop off a plastic bag just to return with the same bag. Unless he was trying to be inconspicuous, a) you wouldn’t think he’d choose purple, b) if it was anything valuable, you’d think he’d choose different packaging. Although, like I said, one would expect something like a briefcase to be filled with something important/expensive than a plastic grocery bag.
There are many many John and Jane doe bodies hanging around your local coroners office. Simon’s right this isn’t that interesting and not uncommon