C-Murder Alleged Victim's Brother Claps Back at Kim Kardashian for Supporting Incarcerated Rapper
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- George Thomas Speaks Out for His Brother Steve Thomas The 16 Year Old that was murdered in the West Bank
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That brother is not pretending to be a gangster or a street guy. You have to respect him for being real if nothing else
How can you respect him for being real when he stabbed and shot a person and c-merder shot a person but he feels like he should be out of prison but c-merder should stay in prison that doesn't make sense
He also did his time for the stabbing and admitted he did it plus the person didn't die..c murder still won't admit to doing it or to who did it and the person in question in deceased. So🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@@reggiemckinney7019C Murder didn't shoot that lil dude all C did was bring da gun in da club and give it to his potna for protection. The song C Murder ft Akon one false move the chorus written by C Murder explains the situation
@@yashicasmith4274He know C didn't shoot his brother they money hungry tryna eat
@yahtut9tv what makes u think they're money hungry?? C murder been was ordered to pay the family but never did🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️reading is fundamental. Go back and read about it luv.
You could definitely tell what side the hosts were on. George did an awesome job keeping his composure because after a while it got frustrating.
Agreed. Its`s like the hosts are are no limit soldiers.
"Yea, they dropped the ball on this one. He keep saying what he got. And they keep talking about what the people said. At the end, he compared losing c to the young man losing his life."
Yea they definitely dropped the ball and clearly came across as no limit soldiers
SUPER FACTS AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING IT REAL. I WAS LOOKING FOR A REAL COMMENT. I'VE SEEN THEM DO THIS BEFORE THATS WHY I UNSUBSCRIBED LONG TIME AGO.
Wango could have lied on C to get the pressure off of him. We never know
Rest in peace to Steve Thomas
Steve Thomas was a stepper smh and C didn’t kill that boy. It was a well known person from Magnolia that killed him who’s no longer alive.
Respect to Boss Talk for the balanced conversation and for having the guts to do this interview, as big No Limit fans, who stand to lose favor with the label.
The real ones still fcks with No Limit.The fake ones can't relate,so they don't
@@1mortalados63No Limit dry as hell
😂
Gwen the last time they dropped?
@@magacop5180 No Limit in the 90's was the sht
My question is....if C Murder wasn't a famous rapper and just heard about a random guy killing a young man in the club..... would you still plea his innocence ?
Reason why I ask this question is because it seems like black people only support celebrities when they get in trouble. We're quick to say free them because we're fans but never consider the victims family. Just like YNW Melly....these kids are about to lose their minds if he's found guilty.... same with young thug. So again why do we only support celebrities and want them free but are quiet when its just a random person who could also be innocent. Charleston White said black people have an entertainers ho mind...we worship celebrities and are willing to crash out over them.
It's an embarrassment to the community how fanned out black ppl are. Let that had been their 16yr old family member. Smh just embarrassing
Because we're more familiar with certain celebrities.I've been listening to C for decades and know he's a real one,but a random I don't know at all to defend them.
@@1mortalados63 Let me let you in on a little secret, you don't know C either
@@1mortalados63wow you really think you know that man because you been listening to his music for decades. 😂. I had no idea the song stan by Eminem was a real thing until social media. I always thought that was a joke. You people are sick all jokes aside.
@@ZooGang-qm2lx Me and C have a similar mind and heart.It's not for dummies like you to understand...and you listen to eminem at that.🤨🙄
Luv said how long do you grieve 😂😂😂 MA'AM THAT'S FOR LIFE
C is 55 years old so tell who did it or don’t cry about not coming home
He 53
Facts cuz he did it
Boss talk y’all should have left this alone.
Mmmmmmmmmmm 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, I definitely agree but it’s just the way I read it in my head
Bro that's exactly what I was thinkin and sayin this interview was to costly I can't think of that right word to say... but reason for not doin this interview for alot of reasons... this is the dude brother so he gonna say whatever we really don't kno what happen all I kno is C murda been in prison for yrs yrs and fightin to get out fightin for his freedom and outta respect for C murda and his kids and family this interview should've never happen...I don't like this look I kno tha true fans don't like this look and I'm Master P don't like this... was this shit for views or what
I don’t like them now this just pissed me off 😤
Facts. Plus the host is annoying as hell
Free C.Miller
The Whole city know C ain’t do that shit!!!!!!
That’s what everyone keeps saying but that ain’t what the three witnesses said. It’s all so confusing hell.
@@fisherp5729 the real ones know my guy
@@fisherp5729 who the same people who changed the story and didn’t want to go to court.
@@MagicEmpireTVIf C didn’t do it then who did it?
@@fisherp5729 could have been anybody in the club that night idk I’ll I know is u can’t trust someone who gives 2 different stories or one that is facing charges to tell the truth how can we decide when they lie or tell the truth of they changing the story.
Wango snitched to beat a charge then lied to George 's face , SMH, Wango had to tell George exactly the same story he told the Police to keep his deal , Blackballed in the industry , Cee aint go no power like that 😂😂
Right he snitched but wanted a rap career after make no sense.
Wango never said C did it.
Not even half way through and had to take this break to comment. The male host is too bias. He's for C-Murder all the way. I commend Steve's brother for not getting upset. The way they were trying to get hi
Dude does not know these people are about to be interviewed and they’re going to say C didn’t do it.
The security who was near the fight said murder wasn't the shooter.. they do know someone in his entourage did do it
@@coreyharrison2551 they don’t say which one did it but they do mention that Dodo and Wango were some cats C should have not had around him.
@@mozzarellarick7537Doe Doe was dead
I remember Steve. We went to school together. My mom used to braid his hair.
Sad story all the way around let’s try to stick together and not be against each other 🙏🏾
The interviewer was BIAS as hell and was not sensitive to his loss.
DA MORE DEY TALK ABOUT DIS CASE (ON ANY PLAT4M), M8KS C LOOK LIKE HE IS NOT INNOCENT!!! I DON'T BELIEVE C SCHODT DAT TEEN BUT, HIS BOYS & HIM (TRU AFFILIATES) JUMPT DAT KID & DEN SUMBODY SCHODT & KILLT DA YOUNG MAN!!! WHICH JUSTIFIES BY PROXY WHY DEY AIN'T LETTN C GO!!! IF HE TELL DEM KKKRKKKRZ WHO SCHODT DAT KID, DEY'LL LET HIS HARD HEAD AZZZ GO!!! & DEN AGAIN, HE MAY NOT EVEN KNO WHO PULLT DA TRIGGAH, BUT DA ATMOSPHERE HE HAD AROUND HIM, DA VIDEO OF HIM SHOOTIN IN A CROWD OF CLUB PATRONS ON A SEPAR8 OCCASION, M8KS HIM A BIG CATCH 2DA SHYTSTEM!!! HE MAY NOT BE GUILTY, BUT HIS NARROWL AZZZ AIN'T "INNOCENT" EITHER!!! SO DEAL WITT IT C, I'M WITT MASTER P, U SHUDDNT HAD YO IGNANT AZZZ IN DAT TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE: THUGGN, GTTN HIGH ON BOY, DROPPN SCHIDT OFF ON NGGGZ, & EGO!!! SO NGGGAPLZ!!!
That’s a brave young man and he’s fighting for good.
He definitely fighting for the good, but we have to convict the right person!!! The evidence don’t say he did this, so the right person should be held accountable for this!!!
@@TRADINWARSTORIEZ The right person has been convicted. Good thing them Caucasians don't care about C-Murder's celebrity status
Him and Wango must was locked up together or something cause how Wango tell you face to face what happened if you were locked up during the first trial.
He lien
I only imagine about meeting a guy like this. The perfect amount of ruggedness and nerdiness. I'm not giving up hope!
When I read the appeal documents, c-murder had told the cops that he was by the Dj booth when the boy was shot, but the Dj said that he wasn’t by the booth.
The security guard said he grabbed him and told him to chill C and that he didn’t have a gun on him regardless where he was he never had a gun to shoot and if he said shoot the security guard would’ve heard him
Where can I get a copy of the appeal documents?
@@TheSpiritofEnlightenment just google state of Louisiana vs Corey Miller
Just to be clear, Wango's death had nothing to do with this case. I won't say his name but the person who killed Wango was a known killer from downtown.
A few guys who were there with C know who actually pulled the trigger C got the gun in the club and gave the gun to Juan, Steve got into it with whiteboy out the Calliope that's when the fight started and Juan Flowers flashed out and killed Steve, C just following the street rules which is stupid and not telling who did it. Steve flashed out playing with whiteboy
That brother changed his life so stop with the hating on his interview because the first thing out of his mouth was this is not a bash c murder session.
Omg these host are awful. They're acting like C-Murder's lawyer. Why are they talking more than the guest smh
You can tell they think C-Murder is innocent
Because they know C didn’t do it! Lmao it was a well known rapper from the Magnolia that did that. Steve got onstage dissing the Magnolia. C is from the Caliope 😂 this guy knows C didn’t kill his brother and knows C bout to get out cause they found evidence that was concealed by the DA that proves C didn’t do it let alone had anything to do with it.
He actually breaks down all of the paperwork on Say No 2 Sko. He’s telling the truth.
What’s the channel name?
What’s the channel name?
@@fisherp5729say no to sco
You Gotta Respect his brother bravery... He lost his 16yr old brother and C Murda homeboyz outta the projects told on him... Open close case to me.
Everyone talks about freeing C but no one talks about catching the real killer or the victims family
Free c.. and catch the real killer
Is it possible that C is the real killer?
The real killer is dead it was wango the whole uptown know that say what y'all want but that man is innocent why he want tell dnt nobody knows but him that's why him and P fell out he was pissed cause he know his brother is innocent and still wanna follow the street code
He didn’t mention the 1.4 million that his family extorted from Corey
He can never repay for the life he took. They should've gotten more than that
Wwwwhhhhaaatttt????
I admire him for what he’s doing for his family but how do we know what he’s saying is the truth?
What reason does he have to lie? Would yoy want an innocent man to be locked up for killing your brother while the person who actually did it never has to answer for it? Who has more reason to lie? C Murder. I don't know why people believe his side of the story without question. It's disturbing that people are fanned out to the point where they don't even question could C actually be guilty.
@ContextReallyMatters he was in Jail when his brother was killed so how would he kno th actual truth about wat happened .......he jus goin off court Documents and ppl that say wat they was told
#FREECOREYMILLER
I was thinking that he had some for sure evidence that c murder did this. I feel someone should be held accountable for this case, but convict the right person. He said nothing that was solid that Corey did this!!! I feel for the family, BUT IM CONVINCED C MURDER DIDNT DO THIS #freecmurder ✊
C-Murder is in his 50s and is still saying he won't say who really done it. While his 4 daughters are out here getting old and living life without him. You live by the no snitch code that much, that you would rather die in prison than to be home with your daughters? When his daughters get married and have children, that'll be it for him. They will be focused on their own children and husbands. They can't keep visiting that prison while their children have school and different events. He might see them for Christmas, if they don't go visit family instead. Mane, I'm starting to feel sorry for C
Why are you convinced? Let me guess. C Murder is famous and you're a fan so you won't even consider the possibility that he did it.
Fam gets all my respect very well spoken ❤👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Free Corey Miller, R.i.p Steven Thomas
You said he was about to get picked up for a drug case and basically through C under the bus. 😂
C murder was a nut case. ppl actin as if some upstanding citizen got framed. society is safer with ppl like him locked up. dying in prison is part of being a gangsta. if you gonna live that life, embrace it fully.
Do you know C personally?
@@user-jh5qd1gg7k You don't have to. He is on camera attempting to shoot up a club because they wanted to search him before allowing him to enter. That speaks volumes for his character. Do you have to know Jeffrey Dahmer personally to know he was sick?
C murder was a victim like Mac and a lot of brothas are doing time innocent in the slave trade the struggle continues
Anyone that graduates college after a prison bid should be celebrated so the haters gonna hate me for this one ☝️
George Thomas is a real one in my book
How he a real one and he lying
He lost me the 1st 10 mins bcuz 1st he say he had a fake I’d den he turn around an say it was a teen club which I don’t understand y he needed a fake I’d an I don’t think c murder as a 30+ year old millionaire would b in a teen club
That's irrelevant. The dude was murdered. Who cares about him being underaged? Have you never bought a cigar or a pack of cigarettes or alcohol before you were old enough to? Have you ever been in a club you weren't old enough to be in? Does that mean you deserve to die?
Why sit in jail for innocent man if you didn’t do it?
Street code they explained it fully not saying it’s right but if u n the streets it’s like the law.
They want C they ain't trying to find the real killer C is the biggest one there that night , and the security guard snitched and lied and said it was C, then C's friend snitched on him. The damage is already done now.
Why is GOD keeping C in prison if he’s 100 percent innocent ?? That part .. I have to keep it real . Something not adding up..
Boss talk 101 I'm not going to lie i think this was a bad idea having him up there because C is still fighting for his life pleading his innocence trying to come. An you had alot of former no limit artist, current no limit artist, associates, an affiliates of no limit on this show that I'm pretty sure you have a good relationship with now. I'm not sure if they are going to be ok with you inviting him up there being that C still fighting for his life I just want to say that. But it's your show your podcast you can do what you want an please. Idk why I just feel like this interview is incriminating
At the end of the day man it’s 2 sides to every story ! Everyone’s worried about C fighting for his life but no one’s worried about the victim that lost his life and his family
@@clubdecarlo Thank you. These ppl are so fanned out, I don't think they care if C-Murder did it or not. They want him freed
@@Ldog73Why would we care if C did or not?Killing is part of the streets,my boi.
@@1mortalados63 Is this a real question
Why is GOD keeping C in prison if he’s 100 percent innocent ?? That part .. I have to keep it real . Something not adding up..
He went through those things so that he can be refined for the prison ministry. God never fails
Look into his 👀 everything he said was facts and F who don’t like it
This fool lieing you had to be 21yrs old to get in that club #Free C
He boldly speaks about God and forgiveness.
I really think this interview was bias and from A FANS POINT OF VIEW . I am a big no limit, c murdet fan but the whole video I believe was to dis credit his family death and his beliefs! Sorry Boss Talk journalism is the key
The higher courts have spoken. It’s enough evidence to keep him incarcerated. I believed the brother George from day 1 despite the fact that the fans want to play naive and crazy. Hes on camera with a gun and his friends wrote a statement on him. Hes guilty. End of story
Never known c to get loaded this a first C always up and movin never miss shows never caught drifting off unlike cash money artists yu actually knew they were loaded frfr
I think it happened just the way the brother explained it...C-murder been gone all this time, if you really innocence bruh you need to tell who did it and give that family peace...that no snitching sh*t is a bunch of bull anyway!!...Wango ain't have no reason to lie on C-murder, because he knew he would get screwed in the end anyway and that's what happened he got wasted in the mist of the controversy!!!
He aint said shit about evidence in the paperwork thru this whole interview tho 🤔 all he talkin bout is he said she said
The girl he talking about admitted to C Murder lawyer that she was scared of the detectives
C didn’t kill that boy and he know that
Give me an A, Give me an M, Give me an N,Hey wheres my E
C Murder Is Innocent For The Crime They Have Him Incarcerated For. If You Understand What I'm Saying
Pretty much
Why is GOD keeping C in prison if he’s 100 percent innocent ?? That part .. I have to keep it real . Something not adding up..
P must've set all this up 😂
Dog food will turn anyone into a dog
Bosstalk a real one 💯 and your Wife , Great content
Witnesses testified at both trials so they were not threatened by the police
Yes they did lie I spoke to the witness he definitely lied
Everybody knows that JP threatened a lot of ppl .
#C murder didn't do it.
You can't really trust anyone's word surrounding this situation. Everyone involved has incentive to lie.
What reason would the family have to lie? If C really didn't do it, why wouldn't they want the person who did it to be revealed? That makes no sense.
All of the internet gangsters trying to gain notoriety off of this man who just wants justice for his brother
He don't want justice for his brother he wants that money
when a person want justice they don't put everything on 1 person they seek the truth
1:03:32 facts
Great interview Boss talk we need more brothers who speak positivity and don’t brag about the penitentiary or who’s the hardest.
Man he could have lied about his past to save face but he didn’t
Lie for what? C-Murder got a whole video up of him shooting wildly in a club months before the murder he's accused of. How that can't be held against him, but this brother's past is under question
The streets know what happened and he isn’t too far off with the names
Why is GOD keeping C in prison if he’s 100 percent innocent ?? That part .. I have to keep it real . Something not adding up..
He's literally stating it's no way it's not c but yet hasn't said anything to prove it t
Free C
At boss talk 101 that dude up their Lying the detectives made dude say C did the murder after his kid was murdered by his baby momma. Wango never said C shot the gun and Juan changed his story because they were gonna give him the death penalty.
2nd y’all acting like he wrong for standing up for his brother 🤦🏾♂️ the podcast shud left y’all opinion out these ppl unbelievable
Still pulling for C freedom after 20yrs, but not too sure about his innocence
If he's really guilty do you think he should be released now ?
@@trippdocta28 I wanna say Yes but if he not even willing to own up to it, how can he be truly sorry for what he's done? Had he admitted yrs ago Hell Yeah he should be able to come home after all this time
@@gun7network i agree ... it's a touchy situation. I just can't imagine having all of that fortune and fame and beautiful daughters and not be able to be in the free world with them. I try to see it from both sides....i understand where this brother is coming from and if C is truly innocent I believe he should be set free. However even if he is guilty I feel that he should have a chance at redemption since it wasn't capital murder. The reason why I say that is because you have people all over America that has committed similar crimes and only get like 15 to 20 years even for a second degree murder. Louisiana is a tough state to deal with when it comes to state laws as it pertains to the judicial system. Thanks for your response bro 💯
Why is GOD keeping C in prison if he’s 100 percent innocent ?? That part .. I have to keep it real . Something not adding up..
I love the show but she questioning him like he lieing.
An again boss 101 please stop cutting the guest off while their explaining their story please respectfully thank you 🙏
I think Wango lied to him to put the body on Corey.
The brother mentioned Glenn Metz and that Kim Kardashian should look into his case....
I interviewed Gerald Nap Elwood, Metz's codefendant, about their case and he broke down with the court's own documents how they were railroaded. I was gonna interview Glenn Metz as well but he had a health matter come up. Anyways, I sent that interview to Kim Kardashian and never got a reply. Either she didn't see it or the case isn't high profile enough.
Say no 2 sko interview was a little deeper because they break down the paperwork and get into the statements but still shout out to Boss Talk 101 for a great interview
C ain been on no dog 😂😂😂 he lien tryn ta make money 🤦🏾♂️
SMH 🤦🏾♂️ nothing but 🧢
If you a real new orleans cook,dont come to texas selling me an alligator poboy,sell me a turtle poboy
17:28 that was a fumble right there
Man y’all timing is way off I wanted to be on the show before this interview Free A Innocent Man Corey Miller Dude Family Just Want Money I Was At Both Trials And Jefferson Parish Railroaded Him Whole Time His Family Was Trying To Extort Money From The Millers Yall Sad Bra Just For the Views
Yo meleven please get on this show an set the record straight. This shit sound incriminating to me an C fighting for his life. He saying alot of shit he going by what he heard he wasnt there
If C didn’t do it who did? That’s the question that needs to be answered!
@@fisherp5729so they want c to snitch and be dead when he come home for being a rat
@@MagicEmpireTVHe’s the one sittin in there suffering. T
@@fisherp5729 facts and the family is suffering ijs the brother is going with 2nd hand stories and a corrupt justice system u can’t 100% believe it
Sorry for yo loss 💯 but bro be honest why would C have killed yo brother or anybody when he had 100 niggas around him ready to do whatever I honestly don’t feel like he pulled the trigger or told somebody to I just feel like it was a lot going on and he had some niggas around him who weren’t thinkers and did what they did off impulse but I don’t feel he guilty of anything to do with that Murder that man is honestly innocent and lost over 20 yrs of his life for some he really ain’t do I understand the family want justice but having a innocent man locked up not right
Damn y’all cappin for c murder
Dude is at peace
The interviewers are being biased as hell…whether you agree wit him or not let that man tell his story or point of view without cutting him off or over talking him. Love the show but not feeling this interview at all.
Wango was a known stepper and he's dead. I heard Master P say C Murder should just tell them what happened. Wango probably killed him but C Murder doesn't want to be labeled a snitch.
His brother should NOT have had his underaged ass in the club in the first place. Maybe his ass would still be here if he wouldn’t have broke the law. He know Corey ain’t do that shit. I don’t feel sorry for their brother at this point.
Who did it then? Help us out so we can help get C-murder out of Angola State Penitentiary. Say his name so we can make UA-cam videos about the guy and put pressure on him. Or you can send Kim Kardashian a DM about the real killa
Dont understand why folks think c murder innocent. If he did it he did it
You know blk people don't accept accountability for anything. Everybody wanna be a gangsta until its time to go to prison then everybody hollering they're innocent. That's just one of the hypocrisies of black culture
Very great Interview E and Ms jamaica
He’s not trying to famous or something he’s not. Salute
So why do an interview and show your face ijs. U can’t not want that but put ya face and story out for the world to see it.
Juan Flowers admitting to lying to help C is suspect AF and doesn’t look good for this case because that proves what Steve’s brother is saying
He recanted his statement because they threatened to give him the death penalty
Juan Flowers was interviewed before C Murder because a witness pointed him out first
Why is GOD keeping C in prison if he’s 100 percent innocent ?? That part .. I have to keep it real . Something not adding up..
Hey boss please bring me on so I can clear this guy testimony up … u was right about why u should bring him on when he was locked up and don’t know what happened yet he sits on here and regurgitate stories he’s heard and I’m listening to him talk and none of the peoples he says he heard from were there that night. But I was there it wasn’t a rap battle it was Soulja Slim record release and the club put C on the flyer so we went to talk to the owner about that .. when we was leaving his brother and his ootnas started talking ish about how we was coming thru the crowd and a fight broke out .. when it was all over the young man was shot of course everyone gonna say “cmurder” because they don’t kno the entourage names… so that was Harry Lee lead he went after C
That’s crazy
You still go back to his point that C knows who did it and should come forward and say so. Otherwise he's protecting the real murderer and by doing so, he's doing his time for him. The ball is in C's court, no one else's. You going on to refute this guy won't change nothing. Only C can set the record straight.
How we dont know C gave wango the gun when they got in. Or gave it to anybody when they got in for that matter.
When i went to prison,aint no monsters in the joint
They don't have no evidence or no gun
I remember in another video he said his little brother didnt have a fake ID or snuck in the club. He said that it was a teen night for all teens to get in the club. He basically saying it was a teen club. Now he saying his brother did get in an snuck in the club with a fake ID. I know it's his brother an I feel for him but this man wasn't there. All he going by is what he HEARD that don't mean it's the truth. He already lied about what i just said how we dont know he not lying about more things about this case. An just because wango allegedly told him personally which we dont even know if it's TRUE but if wango did tell him C did that don't mean it's TRUE. Of course he gonna say someone else did it if he know he did it cause he not tryna get that murder charge how he dont know wango did it. An you just said wango a well know killer in New Orleans. An wango was not his bodyguard or security that was his homie from the projects that he rolls with C. Wango was not with C to solidify C street credit this dude sound crazy smh. They all were street dudes.
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Right!
Master P haven’t spoken since Kim came out so if he’s not supporting Free C that tells me all that I need to know about this case
You sound crazy P just was screaming free C at a concert because P know for sure C didn't kill Steve, he know Juan did it
His little brother ate C-Murder up in a rap battle. At Platinum club on the westbank Jefferson parish don't play. After he ate them up in a rap battle shots went off. C-Murder was embarrass the kid was 16 years old. The story he's telling is a true story. The judge who sentenced him in Jefferson parish. She don't play he got a hard fight me personally I don't think he never come out. Jefferson parish don't play
Great interview
Yall need to put the turtle poboy on the menu,sauce pecan,not et tu fe,lol
Lets keep it real, if C-Murder would of told on the guy who really did shoot Steve, he would of been called all types of snitches in the N.O and the hip-hop community. The way he loved the Calliope, I'm not sure he would of been able to take that rejection. Myself personally would of been singing like a canary. Fuck that code of the street bullshit.
Why that fake azz friend didn't step up and take his charge when C-murder first got arrested? Knowing C-murder is the money man and the leader and is the owner of TRU records and he has 4 daughters. Why let the boss go down knowing you really did the crime. Why C-murder so called friends didn't talk to the guy to take his charge? This is why I think C-murder really did it. Plus his brother Master P has the money to get you handled if you have his brother locked up for a crime he didn't commit. Master P could've easily talked to the real killa and convinced him to tell the truth, right after C-murder got arrested the first time.
Heroine was a big New Orleans thing back in the day
.. still is