Thanks for getting the word out! That was a great rundown of the product. Some fun facts since I've been investing in this for some time... VacuMax is actually the same as LandVac. It has the exact same specs and manufacturing process. Vitro Architectural Glass (formally PPG) acquired the China based LandGlass and VIG Technologies which produced LandVac. VIG has been installed on countless class A buildings since the mid 90's, but yeah, totally locked up in the commercial market until fairly recently. As usual, the true origins of VIG were for military and aerospace use for completely different applications, like camera lenses, cryogenic vessels and various types of sensors that require both insulation and optical clarity, although I don't know of pillars being used. Typically the glass for those applications is very thick such that the fused perimeter supports the stress. VacuMax is officially available though several Vitro certified window manufacturers, but I've heard lead times are extremely delayed. It's exciting that the US will have access to the premier VIG. LandVac/VacuMax specs, warranty, etc etc exceeds that of basically all competitors considering the consumer market. I think VIG will be a standard for all insulated windows in the near future.
This is a fantastic drop in replacement for monumental properties, which currently only have single pane glass. It’s extremely hard to provide those with any decent insulation, whilst keeping the original very well constructed frames. Very excited to see this, just worried about the actual price tag, but I can’t deny that this is clearly a far superior product.
Im still surprised no one is making a vacuum insulated steel 4x8 panel using this same design but with a honeycomb structure in the cavity for structural strength. An insulated steel panel that interlocks with other panels could make up the entire thermal envelope of a residential home. With enough design R&D I can imagine over time the panels replace the exterior siding and possibly interior wood framework making an all in one structure where the panels are your load bearing walls, your roof, your insulation, your siding, your interior walls....Everything. Of course you would probably need different kinds of spray on coatings and different methods of attaching stuff to the interior/exterior walls....Where there's a will there's a way.
They do sort of. They make metal vacuum insulated panels with a center fill of standard insulation to improve thermal resistance of the panel. There what insulate semi trailers, sea cans vending machines, ect. The problem with vip’s is that over time they bleed air into them and loss there insulation valve
Hello, my VIF/C vacuum cleans my floor, and ceiling, and now. I don't have to vacuum clean anymore. It also pulls out the heat from both areas and I save on the AC air costs.
Looks like an excellent product, not coming fast enough for me doing windows replacement pretty soon, so far looking at Soft-lite windows and Simonton windows.
For the those using metric: the performance of the Fineo is "only" 0.7W/m2K vs this one on the video from Vitro with the specs of R14 (imperial) = RSI 2.52 = U 0.38W/m2K. Therefore, the Vitro performs much better than the Fineo?
I own a company that restores old steel windows and doors and its extremely difficult to find insulated glass that fits the profiles of these types of windows. So many of these beautiful windows are being replaced because we cannot find any insulated glass that will fit!
Jeff, Would the company that makes that Vacuum glass license their design to a company like Cardinal Glass, then Cardinal could sell it to companies like Andersen, Marvin, Pella, Ect. I am really interested in something like this, as I live in Michigan.
That's a good question. For all I know, Cardinal may be making one of their own soon. It seems that this concept has been used in commercial applications for over a decade but the cost was prohibitive. I'm interested in seeing how much this will add, if anything, to the cost of a typical window.
what if when the vacuum was reversed, it blew small foam beads in? it seems that would insulate and also black out the window for quality sleep at night
I've often wondered why we don't just use polycarbonate for windows. It is 200% stronger and 50% lighter than glass and is more insulative than glass. Oh, and it's cheaper than glass. Polycarbonate will not break (it is actually used for bullet proof glass). Polycarb is also 100% UV protective. The main disadvantage is it scratches easier than glass, but this can be overcame with coatings applied to it. If you wear eyeglasses, there is a good chance your lenses are made of polycarbonate.
Im stunned and confused. For decades i thought double glazing was - as standard - a partial vaccuum at least. or are they just filled with an inert/dry gas?
Vacuum glass is the most energy-efficient glass product available, and LEADUS, a company based in China, provides vacuum glass products and technology.
I would think the glass would break much easier this way if it were hit with a gob a grass when mowing or something that would do a soft hit. I think the gases that fill the spaces would act more like a cushion. Are the break points any different Jeff?
I think that glass can be unpredictable at times. I've seen glass that should not have broken break, and glass that you would have thought should have broken did not.
Instead of sealing 2 panes together, with a sealant that always degrades eventually and thus lets the window fog up, why don't these window manufacturers weld the sides of the glass panes together so that there is no sealant that can break unless the window itself is broken?
I don't know that I have an answer to your question. My guess would be that it is time consuming and even a weld could fail. I've seen it happen on an airplane before.
Due to the thermal differentials that will be exterted upon the inner and outer panes of glass. The outside may be -5 c or lower, whereas the inside pane will be up at 18 c or so, hence the 'bridging' glass bond will fractiure...
It's great in any climate but the colder the climate the more important the U Factor is and this has an exceptional U Factor compared to typical double or triple pane glass.
@@HoustonWindowExperts Do you think there will ever be triple pane or greater VIG? (Not hybrid; I mean multiple panes each with a vacuum between them, so no gasses).
It is a nice VIG manufacture. Amazing to see it there.
This is insanely cool and can't wait for it to hit the residential market!
I'm excited!
Me too , I am looking forward to replace thin sashes on my old Anderson windows
Coming soon!
Northern Europe need this
Thanks for getting the word out! That was a great rundown of the product.
Some fun facts since I've been investing in this for some time...
VacuMax is actually the same as LandVac. It has the exact same specs and manufacturing process. Vitro Architectural Glass (formally PPG) acquired the China based LandGlass and VIG Technologies which produced LandVac.
VIG has been installed on countless class A buildings since the mid 90's, but yeah, totally locked up in the commercial market until fairly recently. As usual, the true origins of VIG were for military and aerospace use for completely different applications, like camera lenses, cryogenic vessels and various types of sensors that require both insulation and optical clarity, although I don't know of pillars being used. Typically the glass for those applications is very thick such that the fused perimeter supports the stress.
VacuMax is officially available though several Vitro certified window manufacturers, but I've heard lead times are extremely delayed. It's exciting that the US will have access to the premier VIG. LandVac/VacuMax specs, warranty, etc etc exceeds that of basically all competitors considering the consumer market.
I think VIG will be a standard for all insulated windows in the near future.
I agree. Thanks for watching and your comment.
Very much would like this for lightweight sliding glass doors!
Actually, it weighs just as much as regular windows and doors do. It's just doesn't have the dead airspace in the middle.
This is a fantastic drop in replacement for monumental properties, which currently only have single pane glass.
It’s extremely hard to provide those with any decent insulation, whilst keeping the original very well constructed frames.
Very excited to see this, just worried about the actual price tag, but I can’t deny that this is clearly a far superior product.
You are correct! I think it's a great product. Now we just need to wait until the price comes down.
Im still surprised no one is making a vacuum insulated steel 4x8 panel using this same design but with a honeycomb structure in the cavity for structural strength. An insulated steel panel that interlocks with other panels could make up the entire thermal envelope of a residential home. With enough design R&D I can imagine over time the panels replace the exterior siding and possibly interior wood framework making an all in one structure where the panels are your load bearing walls, your roof, your insulation, your siding, your interior walls....Everything. Of course you would probably need different kinds of spray on coatings and different methods of attaching stuff to the interior/exterior walls....Where there's a will there's a way.
Great information. Thank you for sharing.
They do sort of. They make metal vacuum insulated panels with a center fill of standard insulation to improve thermal resistance of the panel. There what insulate semi trailers, sea cans vending machines, ect. The problem with vip’s is that over time they bleed air into them and loss there insulation valve
Thank you for your comment
Thank you for showing it.
You're welcome
Hello, my VIF/C vacuum cleans my floor, and ceiling, and now. I don't have to vacuum clean anymore. It also pulls out the heat from both areas and I save on the AC air costs.
Looks like an excellent product, not coming fast enough for me doing windows replacement pretty soon, so far looking at Soft-lite windows and Simonton windows.
Soft-lite is much better than the Simonton. If you're looking for a great window company near you, check out my list. JeffsList.com
Nice product. In Europe we have FINEO vacuum glass. Nearly the same like you showed here, but without evacuation port and with 15 years of warranty.
That's great. I'll check it out
Thanks for that, looks fantastic, hope i can afford it!
Thanks for watching
For the those using metric: the performance of the Fineo is "only" 0.7W/m2K vs this one on the video from Vitro with the specs of R14 (imperial) = RSI 2.52 = U 0.38W/m2K. Therefore, the Vitro performs much better than the Fineo?
Thank you!
It looks like a great product. I'm sure R-16 is better than my walls!
Hahaha... Mine too
Thank you
I also live in the UK and vacuum glass has been available to the public for some time.
Must be nice
I own a company that restores old steel windows and doors and its extremely difficult to find insulated glass that fits the profiles of these types of windows. So many of these beautiful windows are being replaced because we cannot find any insulated glass that will fit!
Maybe look for VIG
Great presentation! Note 8.3 mm = 5/16" (not 3/16")
Thanks for watching and your correction.
9:00 whats the name of that window with the integrated solar pannels?
I'm sorry but I don't recall the name.
The "getairs" are passive? Because if so, how do they not break the second law of thermodynamics?
great stuff thanks
Thank you for watching
which residential door/window company is using this glass?
I do not know where that product is being used in a residential setting at this time. It's just cool to see what's coming soon.
I hope you get the contract and make it available to your customers
Thanks
Is it suitable for hot areas in middle east
Jeff, Would the company that makes that Vacuum glass license their design to a company like Cardinal Glass, then Cardinal could sell it to companies like Andersen, Marvin, Pella, Ect. I am really interested in something like this, as I live in Michigan.
That's a good question. For all I know, Cardinal may be making one of their own soon. It seems that this concept has been used in commercial applications for over a decade but the cost was prohibitive. I'm interested in seeing how much this will add, if anything, to the cost of a typical window.
When installing windows that are better insulated than the walls you need to consider if condensation ends up in the walls.
Thank you for watching and your comment.
What about vapour barrier ?
Yes, it's critical
what if when the vacuum was reversed, it blew small foam beads in? it seems that would insulate and also black out the window for quality sleep at night
Good idea, I will share this.
I've often wondered why we don't just use polycarbonate for windows. It is 200% stronger and 50% lighter than glass and is more insulative than glass. Oh, and it's cheaper than glass. Polycarbonate will not break (it is actually used for bullet proof glass). Polycarb is also 100% UV protective. The main disadvantage is it scratches easier than glass, but this can be overcame with coatings applied to it. If you wear eyeglasses, there is a good chance your lenses are made of polycarbonate.
I look forward to the day!
probably because polycarbonate is 1000% more expensive than glass!
I bet they do a lot to prevent sound too.
Amazing at sound reduction
Im stunned and confused. For decades i thought double glazing was - as standard - a partial vaccuum at least. or are they just filled with an inert/dry gas?
Typical double pane glass is sealed and filled with Argon gas. The vacuum glass has all the air removed.
Does Cardinal have anything equivalent to this ?
Not that I've seen
Vacuum glass is the most energy-efficient glass product available, and LEADUS, a company based in China, provides vacuum glass products and technology.
lol, we’re not gonna buy any China made 💩.
Dang, didn't come soon enough for me 😟.
Thanks Jeff,
JaneLee - in Suburban Philadelphia
1/29/22
Hi!
R-value is equally important if you are heating a house to be warmer than outside or cooling a house to be cooler than outside.
in brutal Texas summer heat , why would I not want great r values ? I can an r-21 ??
Price per sq m...???
Pricing for this product is not available in the United States yet. I do not have an answer for you at this time. Hopefully soon.
I work for a company that offers pricing per sq m its now available,a different brand then the one being filmed.
I would think the glass would break much easier this way if it were hit with a gob a grass when mowing or something that would do a soft hit. I think the gases that fill the spaces would act more like a cushion. Are the break points any different Jeff?
I think that glass can be unpredictable at times. I've seen glass that should not have broken break, and glass that you would have thought should have broken did not.
@@HoustonWindowExperts Are there industry standard tests, drop a ball bearing of x weight, y inches over, a standard grid pattern?
No, as far as I know, testing is done using wind, rain, and pressure. There are no specific ratings for glass strength as you described.
Thank you, David.
Instead of sealing 2 panes together, with a sealant that always degrades eventually and thus lets the window fog up, why don't these window manufacturers weld the sides of the glass panes together so that there is no sealant that can break unless the window itself is broken?
I don't know that I have an answer to your question. My guess would be that it is time consuming and even a weld could fail. I've seen it happen on an airplane before.
Due to the thermal differentials that will be exterted upon the inner and outer panes of glass. The outside may be -5 c or lower, whereas the inside pane will be up at 18 c or so, hence the 'bridging' glass bond will fractiure...
Or make them frameless like LiteZone.
I'll check it out. Thanks
Imagine a product without an evacuation port! ;) Panasonic has done this, and I'd classify it as far superior.
Why is it not as good in Southern climates?
It's great in any climate but the colder the climate the more important the U Factor is and this has an exceptional U Factor compared to typical double or triple pane glass.
@@HoustonWindowExperts Do you think there will ever be triple pane or greater VIG? (Not hybrid; I mean multiple panes each with a vacuum between them, so no gasses).
Wow... I never considered that. It is possible.
@@HoustonWindowExperts Likely?
Richard Rawlings older brother 😆
I get that all the time.
Now add a 3rd pane for R30. Windows will be the new walls
Yes!
wait until a kid through his toy on the glass.. it will break in micro pieces
pass