Great tips. One issue with soldering stranded wires on a vehicle is that it fuses the strands together and prevents the now solid portion from flexing. This causes a stress concentration on the strands at the end of the solder and, under heavy vibration, can fatigue and sever the individual strands. Therefore it's always advisable to add a stress relief or secure hold-down across and just outboard of the connection.
Hey so when you're soldering the wire on that switch tab, isn't that considered a cold solder, even though you've already tinned the wire? Would it be bad to heat up the spade on the switch and then add the solder to the top of the wire, granted the two were in contact??
Matt: "Scotchlok" is a 3M brand name for a wide variety of devices. The little blue device you showed is correctly called a "tap" connector. I agree, they are NOT intended for automotive wiring. As a 40+ year electrician veteran, I can attest, they aren't that good in building wiring either. I would "disagree" on the "wirenut" critique however. If the "wirenut" is properly sized for the conductors it is joining, it will make a good, lasting, connection since the method used to hold the conductors together is a spring that constantly applies pressure on the joint. Again, correct sizing is critical!! Too small/too big, is where people get into trouble. One thing I didn't see you advise or educate on: What type of solder to use/when to use flux???
Hot and cold temps play hell with cold solder joints also. I repair mobile electronics. A good winter of freezing and heating shows any and all bad joints.
A bunch of old women in the comment section giving their "expert" advise. Clicked on each negative comment username and didn't see one video on soldering. Thought I was looking at the comment section of This Old House where the same seems to be true.
terrible soldering video. the iron is bad the fact you dont explain soldering is a form of braze welding.. the fact of heating and not explaining fluxing or heat sinks is bad as well..you can tin wiring with solder pots... so automotive wiring is nightmarish at best due to the lack of proper electrical and electronic principles that are not applied...this is not professional in the least and speaks bad of hagerty.
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"everything in a car vibrates" right..soldering makes the wire hard and brittle near the solder joint. The vibration will make that brittle connection break. That's why manufactures use crimp connections, and never use solder joints.
That's just not true. You need to get some training and real world experience before posting such bad info. I work in the aircraft industry, and we have very strict guide lines that state no solder joints can be used on loose wiring, just for reasons mentioned above. COmmonly used electrical solder melts at approx. 370 deg. F A well designed circuit, has connectors and solder joint or crimps do not need to come apart. (your really contradicting yourself here) ... YOU can take that crimp tool you have a throw it in the trash. It would never be allowed in a real world auto industry or aircraft fields. There is no way to prevent a solder joints from hardening the wire. They are not allowed in any good quality wiring harness. We use to see this crap in Chinese products in the 60's and 70's and make fun of the garbage. Now, people like you are promoting this crap. This is just bad info. all the way around.
PHilip Perry only 24 years? Young buck... Car audio? Now that's real important stuff. I've seen the butch work done by people like you. I would never let you get within 10 feet of my car. You'll never learn anything with an attitude like that.
Weggman Hillard copper as stated above does not harden with heat. It gets annealed by heating. Copper does work harden which is why bending and twisting it too much will break it. It is an ideal material to solder. As you stated in another post home crimpers are junk. We all know this. But if you crimp a cheap connector with cheap pliers a little dab of solder will make it permanent. If you are worried about the copper breaking at the connector then use some shrink tubing at the connection. I agree with you that quality crimp connectors done with a purpose built crimping machine is an excellent method. Its fast, secure and clean. However you have to take this video for what it is. Backyard mechanics having fun with cars!
Keep doing videos like this with tips, tricks, and helpful information! These are some of my favorite
Great tips. One issue with soldering stranded wires on a vehicle is that it fuses the strands together and prevents the now solid portion from flexing. This causes a stress concentration on the strands at the end of the solder and, under heavy vibration, can fatigue and sever the individual strands. Therefore it's always advisable to add a stress relief or secure hold-down across and just outboard of the connection.
These are good tips. Butt connectors with built in heat shrink work well to seal up the connection and prevent corrosion.
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Great tips thank you men
Hey so when you're soldering the wire on that switch tab, isn't that considered a cold solder, even though you've already tinned the wire?
Would it be bad to heat up the spade on the switch and then add the solder to the top of the wire, granted the two were in contact??
You know your stuff - great job. As an electronics tech from many years ago I watch an listen very closely. All spot on and correct.
Damn, I wish I’d seen this before I installed my fog lights.
Matt: "Scotchlok" is a 3M brand name for a wide variety of devices. The little blue device you showed is correctly called a "tap" connector. I agree, they are NOT intended for automotive wiring. As a 40+ year electrician veteran, I can attest, they aren't that good in building wiring either. I would "disagree" on the "wirenut" critique however. If the "wirenut" is properly sized for the conductors it is joining, it will make a good, lasting, connection since the method used to hold the conductors together is a spring that constantly applies pressure on the joint. Again, correct sizing is critical!! Too small/too big, is where people get into trouble.
One thing I didn't see you advise or educate on: What type of solder to use/when to use flux???
Hot and cold temps play hell with cold solder joints also. I repair mobile electronics. A good winter of freezing and heating shows any and all bad joints.
like this so much... thanx for this vid.
You guys located in Oregon?
Rosin core lead solder.
Awesome thanks
And don't forget, what never use aggressive flux which necessary remove after soldering. It'll kill your connection in future.
Dont forget the heatshrink over the bare metal tabs.
Actually, its better to get the addon through the middle of the main wire, this way it will not bounce off
Sodder or solder?
James Lawson the “l” is silent, it’s spelled “solder” said as “sodder”
In British English, the 'l' is pronounced, In American English it isn't.
A bunch of old women in the comment section giving their "expert" advise. Clicked on each negative comment username and didn't see one video on soldering. Thought I was looking at the comment section of This Old House where the same seems to be true.
Where's the how to on lead soldering body work ?
Those irons are junk! We only use Metcal. Also, you should tin the wires first!
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Once again using the Queens English sold-er-ing as in "I sold my house/car/wife etc.
Seems that in America the L is silent for some reason...
'Soddering' sounds like some sort of deviant sexual act that was illegal in the 1950's.
Buck neighkidd I think a word that is more aligned with the queens English is
"Soldiers"
SOLD•ier
sol•DIEr
SOLD(to)DIE•r
Play of words
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this is the worst way to twist wires ever creates high resistance joint always follow the wire and where possible do not twist together...
terrible soldering video. the iron is bad the fact you dont explain soldering is a form of braze welding.. the fact of heating and not explaining fluxing or heat sinks is bad as well..you can tin wiring with solder pots... so automotive wiring is nightmarish at best due to the lack of proper electrical and electronic principles that are not applied...this is not professional in the least and speaks bad of hagerty.
PLEASE READ HAGERTY!!!!!!!!!!! Do you think you could rebuild my engine I have a 1970 Ford f100 v8 I really want you guys to rebuild it I am serious. I am 13 years old and this is my third vehicle but it is my favorite!!
"everything in a car vibrates" right..soldering makes the wire hard and brittle near the solder joint. The vibration will make that brittle connection break. That's why manufactures use crimp connections, and never use solder joints.
That's just not true. You need to get some training and real world experience before posting such bad info. I work in the aircraft industry, and we have very strict guide lines that state no solder joints can be used on loose wiring, just for reasons mentioned above. COmmonly used electrical solder melts at approx. 370 deg. F A well designed circuit, has connectors and solder joint or crimps do not need to come apart. (your really contradicting yourself here) ... YOU can take that crimp tool you have a throw it in the trash. It would never be allowed in a real world auto industry or aircraft fields. There is no way to prevent a solder joints from hardening the wire. They are not allowed in any good quality wiring harness. We use to see this crap in Chinese products in the 60's and 70's and make fun of the garbage. Now, people like you are promoting this crap. This is just bad info. all the way around.
thats just the bullshit feed to consumers. Done right you arent ever braking a solder joint.
You obviously don't understand what work hardening is.
PHilip Perry only 24 years? Young buck... Car audio? Now that's real important stuff. I've seen the butch work done by people like you. I would never let you get within 10 feet of my car. You'll never learn anything with an attitude like that.
Weggman Hillard copper as stated above does not harden with heat. It gets annealed by heating. Copper does work harden which is why bending and twisting it too much will break it. It is an ideal material to solder. As you stated in another post home crimpers are junk. We all know this. But if you crimp a cheap connector with cheap pliers a little dab of solder will make it permanent. If you are worried about the copper breaking at the connector then use some shrink tubing at the connection.
I agree with you that quality crimp connectors done with a purpose built crimping machine is an excellent method. Its fast, secure and clean. However you have to take this video for what it is. Backyard mechanics having fun with cars!
I, hate... scotch locks.
First
not the best idea to solder copper with tin, you create a galvanic couple and in a damp environment the connector will rot.
all solder has tin but in different percentages
It's not so afraid, because this connection doesn't have high voltage.
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