The Biggest MANDELA EFFECTS In Dragon Ball Z

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  • @bluecheckmiya
    @bluecheckmiya Рік тому +151

    Most of these aren't Mandela effects they're just proofs that most DB fans haven't read the manga

    • @brianrosado2333
      @brianrosado2333 Рік тому +4

      what I said my man... you're absolutely right.

    • @missingLEGACY
      @missingLEGACY 11 місяців тому +8

      I was going to say the same thing, kinda clickbaity title.

    • @elbichote2988
      @elbichote2988 11 місяців тому

      Damn I was about to write this same thing 🤣😂

    • @AnthonyRusso93
      @AnthonyRusso93 11 місяців тому +2

      The Mandela Effect isn't ever a real thing it is always people being wrong. Get with the program

    • @elbichote2988
      @elbichote2988 11 місяців тому +2

      @AnthonyRusso93 who are you speaking to? That's literally what everyone said on under this comment. And also clearly you don't understand the concept of Mandela effects so let me help you. The Mandela effect isn't so much about change, but rather why do we remember things differently and moreso why do so many people remember the exact same incorrect thing. For me, being a history buff, the Mandela effect that got me was the dazzle camouflage ships of ww2 and the Black Tom explosion, which germany attacked US soil in a deliberate terrorist attack sparking our enterance in ww1. I learned it was the sinking of the luisitana I never heard of that black tom shit

  • @TecTitan
    @TecTitan Рік тому +301

    I'm going to teach my kids that Bardock was in fact a brilliant scientist.

    • @devinbannish1469
      @devinbannish1469 Рік тому +7

      ...I'm not.

    • @Max-zv8hm
      @Max-zv8hm Рік тому +21

      I became a biochemist (so a scientist) because of Bardock. It’s my reality now lol

    • @Kenpachi-q3q
      @Kenpachi-q3q Рік тому +2

      Like telling your kids Santa's real?

    • @Balrog-tf3bg
      @Balrog-tf3bg Рік тому +4

      But did he see the future?

    • @Londonlink
      @Londonlink Рік тому +2

      I thought that was an mistranslation on the English dubbers end.

  • @Chronoflation
    @Chronoflation Рік тому +101

    I don't think the majority of these are Mandela effects at all. Most just seem like anime produced misunderstandings. Aren't Mandela Effects when masses of people remember something that didn't actually happen, like "We Are The Champions" having the line "of the world" in it? I mean, I think some one off version may have had that line, but it wasn't in the original or most iterations thereafter. I can still remember how that one sounded but I know he didn't actually sing it. It'd be like if everyone remembered Vegeta saying "Over 9000", but that line was never actually said, or if it came from Bulma reading her radar when Goku first started powering up with the Kaio Ken and somehow people attributed that memory to Vegeta en masse. That's just an example. So yeah, I think mass misunderstandings and mass false memories are different things and Mandela is the latter

    • @WhiteManOnCampus
      @WhiteManOnCampus Рік тому +10

      Unrelated to the video, but "of the world" was in the original song. It came off an album called "News of the World" and each chorus ended with "of the world." It was only later iterations that began to remove the final "of the world" for no easily-explained reason, but it's still in the choruses before the song's end.
      The Mandela Effect is typically when people misremember something as a group, due either to media saturation or brand knockoffs (like store brands ripping off the Fruit of the Loom logo and adding a cornucopia, thereby creating the association in our minds), most notably with the repeated insistence that Nelson Mandela was going to die in prison or repeated reports that he had died, later recanted for being false.

    • @CaptainPrincess
      @CaptainPrincess Рік тому +4

      I mean the easiest way to describe the mandela effect is the event of its namesake, which is people thinking Nelson Mandela died in prison during apartheid when he infact lived well into I think the early 2010's
      I remember hearing on the news about his actual death while in an airport and thinking "wait, he just died? and not years ago?"

    • @terihorton217
      @terihorton217 Рік тому +8

      Thank you!!!! That's exactly what I was thinking. None of these are mandala effects, they are just discrepancies between opinions.

    • @omnipot7141
      @omnipot7141 Рік тому

      the gogeta quote used in parallel and addressed to Janemba has two different lines from the Japanese subtitle translation and the English subtitle translation versions.

    • @messiahmozgus
      @messiahmozgus Рік тому +1

      Yeah they should have consulted a dictionary before making this

  • @Mvfasalways
    @Mvfasalways Рік тому +59

    The Mandela Effect is an observed phenomenon in which a large segment of the population misremembers a significant event or shares a memory of an event that did not actually occur.

    • @rorkirbabtista9429
      @rorkirbabtista9429 Рік тому +4

      No, it's when you jumped time lines, and only you and/or some other people can put the finger on the difference. The rest is unaffected and "debunks" your experience.

    • @Mynamesisjeff6999
      @Mynamesisjeff6999 Рік тому +7

      @@rorkirbabtista9429 OH NO THERES A NEW Mandela Effect AND ITS the Mandela Effect Mandela Effect

    • @rorkirbabtista9429
      @rorkirbabtista9429 Рік тому

      @@Mynamesisjeff6999 oh shiiit

    • @ammoposada4427
      @ammoposada4427 Рік тому +3

      Slightly right. Actually your just noticing the iconic stuff because it's known by multiple people. But the Mandela effect changes everything even conversation. Recently have you spoke to someone, then yiu both started telling each other you both said something different??? It's happening on every scale. But we only collectively notice iconic popular things. But inface, even a small conversation with q person can also change.

    • @3dmaster205
      @3dmaster205 Рік тому

      @@rorkirbabtista9429 No, it's a trick of the mind; in fact there's a "Mandela Effect" that your own memories show is just a trick of the mind; provided you had the original 8-bit Nintendo. You don't actually have to push the cartridge down in order to play the games, even though the manual says.
      Some people have gotten convinced they couldn't start the machine properly with it up, but that just never was the case, we just dutifully pushed the cartridge down until it became habit and then we did it automatically.
      Your own memories that prove you never had to push the cartridge down, is like everyone who had a NES, when the game didn't start, you blew in the cartridge, and when it worked afterward assumed that is what did it, and kept doing it. You first tried resetting the machine, that didn't, work, then turn it off and on, that didn't work, then you did what you thought was reseated the cartridge; bring it up and then down again, and of course that didn't work, and so you blew on it. Only now, as you slide the cartridge back in, do you reseat the cartridge, and it's this reseating that made it work. So your memories of blowing in the cartridge, prove you didn't actually need to push the cartridge down, it's just a pointless sentence in the manual.

  • @r2richburg
    @r2richburg Рік тому +59

    a lot of these are manga canon vs anime canon, not mandela effects. continuity differences between the 2 is a more apt title, but cool vid

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ Рік тому +7

      Yeah. You can't point out where we actually saw it and say "but it's the mandela effect!" When no, we actually saw it. It's not the mandela effect. That's just gaslighting us into thinking this is the mandela effect because you prefer the manga canon.

  • @arrownoir
    @arrownoir Рік тому +119

    Goku could’ve used instant transmission to take 18 to king Kai’s planet.
    Inability to detect her doesn’t matter because Piccolo was actively fighting 17, so just follow his ki. Or Cell’s right as he absorbed 17.

    • @thatoneguy3253
      @thatoneguy3253 Рік тому +45

      @@mcgeeyeeeyeeethe writing does that itself, just remember it’s his editors fault for making him change the main villain like 3 times.

    • @N.i.E.M.O
      @N.i.E.M.O Рік тому +45

      Even if Toriyama remembered Instant Transmission existed at that point he'd just make it so Cell can use it too and follow him to King Kai's planet.
      "Cell can instantly learn the techniques of those he has the DNA of because 'advanced bio technology' etc etc"
      Some bs like that

    • @censoredterminalautism4073
      @censoredterminalautism4073 Рік тому +13

      Also, when Vegeta and Nappa were heading towards Earth, they could have wished to destroy their ships.

    • @swagnostic132
      @swagnostic132 Рік тому +5

      @@censoredterminalautism4073 they run that by one another but since the dragon was weaker than the 2 of them, it wouldn't have worked anyway. Does it make sense? No lol

    • @censoredterminalautism4073
      @censoredterminalautism4073 Рік тому +18

      @@swagnostic132 They tried to use the dragon balls to kill them. Destroying their ships is not killing them... though it would kill them if they were in space. Still, they are stronger than the dragon, not their ships, the ships have no ki. Hell, could even just teleport the ships away.

  • @redxribbonxarmy
    @redxribbonxarmy Рік тому +7

    The information in this video was good. However, it was different from the Mandela Effect for the simple reason we are not remembering incorrectly but only remembering the version of the content that was available to that specific individual at that particular time. So, in general, people can only remember what they know, and those individuals were led down different paths by different content creators who used the same content with company-approved dialog and rearranged images to support the dialog.

  • @renmojito6796
    @renmojito6796 Рік тому +13

    This doesn't feel like a mandela effect. It's just people who read the manga vs people who watch the anime. By this logic gt is a major mandela effect as there has never been a ssj4

  • @parkouremaster
    @parkouremaster Рік тому +7

    I know canonically Trunks already knew how to transform, but my headcannon will prefer the anime in this case, the raw sadness and rage of Trunks in that moment, really made a lot of sense of what "super saiyan" was supposed to be by the moment, a transformation of pure heart with rage and sadness.

  • @djgoku7774
    @djgoku7774 Рік тому +19

    "Fans make up things and use their headcanon as fact". Oh my God YES! I swear as a DB, One Piece, Naruto, Yugioh and Bleach fan this is the most annoying thing ever. People act like the author can't make their characters say blind statements and be wrong. "Goku said it so it must be true" type of stuff. Or the worst part when they interpret something differently and take their agenda for their favorite characters to the extreme. Dub changes and the anime don't help either 😅. These days when I read a new series I watch the anime later to spot the differences so these misconceptions don't happen.

  • @yungkidnf
    @yungkidnf Рік тому +8

    First one: that's not a Mandela effect. And I've NEVER heard anyone *ever* reference that.

  • @brianrosado2333
    @brianrosado2333 Рік тому +5

    These are not example of Mandela Effect, this are mostly cases of people not reading the manga, so in their head the event of the anime are what actually happened. The problem is that before the internet had its boom people got stocked with what they saw and got their own conclusions. Now a Mandela would be people misremembering something or taking to event who are totally unrelated and mixing them up, the case of Sinbad and the movie Kazaam starting Shaq or the actual thing that started the Mandela effect, the widespread false memory that Nelson Mandela, South African human rights activist and eventual president, died in prison in the 1980s when he in fact died in 2013.

    • @messiahmozgus
      @messiahmozgus Рік тому

      How did they do this entire video without knowing what a Mandela effect was? They got this whole thing so wrong. This is so embarrassing.

  • @gravethestampede3454
    @gravethestampede3454 Рік тому +19

    A lot of these are just fans doing what they do best and misinterpreting the source material instead of misremembering details (like the black tip Pikachu-tail or the Berenstein Bears fiascoes). Something more akin to what the Mandela affect would be fans all of a sudden insisting Gohan briefly wore a mohawk for a hairstyle at any point of the story or something whack like that. The Mandela affect isn't really a falsifiable thing, the people bring it up in any serious capacity know full well of the discrepancy between what they remember and what's plainly factual. It's nothing like how Dragon Ball fans passing around misconceptions because they don't know better.

  • @RasDaKaiReacts
    @RasDaKaiReacts Рік тому +12

    3:00 I had no idea people believed that Goku was wished back. I've never heard that but I've corrected people in other areas so it's believable that they believed it

    • @cedricmartin9109
      @cedricmartin9109 Рік тому

      I had a few people think this and still believed it after I said you could only wish him back once

    • @RasDaKaiReacts
      @RasDaKaiReacts Рік тому

      @@cedricmartin9109 lol yeah, Definitely some confusing moments in dragon ball Fandom. When I was a kid watching dbz ocean dub and the rock the dragon intro, me and my crew thought mehameha was a special move lol. Like a weaker version of Kamehameha lol

    • @CopiousStarch
      @CopiousStarch 11 місяців тому

      Same here, but I'll accept it since going back to throwing hands the moment you get resurrected is metal as fuck

    • @RasDaKaiReacts
      @RasDaKaiReacts 11 місяців тому

      @@CopiousStarch lol true

  • @cmccollum51
    @cmccollum51 Рік тому +4

    I never heard the line about Bardock being a scientist until this year lol

    • @donovanbradford8231
      @donovanbradford8231 Рік тому +1

      That was a line I first heard in the original Ocean Dub from the 90's just before Vegeta turns into a Oozaru

  • @brandonlaferney937
    @brandonlaferney937 Рік тому +4

    I don't think you guys know what the Mandela affect is.
    Mandela affect is when a large number of people "remember" something that never happened.
    You guys mentioned things that did happen. For example, Bardock being a great scientist. It's not canon and something that is only present in the English anime dub, but it is in the English anime dub, and therefore, people are remembering something that did happen.

  • @kwedl
    @kwedl Рік тому +2

    DBZ fans paying attention to the story challenge: Level impossible

  • @MineShackle
    @MineShackle Рік тому +10

    Regardlesa of whether or not Trunks being a super saiyan at the time that he was in the manga is consistent with the Goten and Trunks stuff, its still feels way more earned and dramatic in the anime special. Super saiyan loses what makes it special with each subsequent person achieving it with less motivation, then you get to Trunks and Goten and its quite literally a joke. So yeah, Trunk the Specials blows Toryiama's interpretation out of the water

    • @themattstrat7445
      @themattstrat7445 Рік тому

      exactly, to me it doesn't make sense for Gohan to willingly sacrifice himself if he knew Trunks could go super saiyan, considering training was obviously still making Trunks significantly stronger, why would Gohan purposefully get himself killed to leave his weaker super saiyan friend to now possibly get ganged up on when they could have had a legit 2v2 fight soon? Using the death as what finally sends Trunks over the edge makes so much more sense!

  • @StarkMark2
    @StarkMark2 Рік тому +3

    None of these were Mandela effects though....just manga and anime differences, or translation issues. Mandela effect would be something more like if we all remembered Dr. Gero being in Dragon Ball, when in reality he wasn't. Like how everyone remembers a movie that doesn't exist..

  • @mairaineplayzgames2205
    @mairaineplayzgames2205 Рік тому +1

    good example of the mandela effect: the phrase "beam me up, scotty" was NEVER said in the star trek franchise, yet people believe it did!

  • @CaptainPrincess
    @CaptainPrincess Рік тому +5

    Does it really count as a mandela effect if it actually happened though
    these are manga-anime differences, not a mis-remembering
    mandela effect is about things people think happened that didnt, not differences in adaptations

  • @itsybitsyusitka2170
    @itsybitsyusitka2170 Рік тому +12

    One thing that springs to my mind that a lot of people repeated back in the day when discussing Z-Broly is that Goku only managed to defeat him because he aimed at the scar from when he was stabbed as an infant. Not only does Broly have no such scar anywhere on him, the spot punched ( his abdomen ) isn't even where he was stabbed in the first place; the flashback has the wound - admittedly very ambiguously due to the shadowy framing - situated somewhere closer to his upper torso, most likely on the side of his heart. Here I guess the confusion comes from the fact that in Broly: The Second Coming he now has a scar following his battle with Goku and that retroactively became tangled with the whole false memory. I reckon there was also an inkling of a need for the fans to be able to justify his loss even when almost all past and future movie villains shared a similar end of either being bested by an asspull or Spirit Bomb in some shape or form.

    • @thatoneguy3253
      @thatoneguy3253 Рік тому

      You couldn’t tell this to a brolytard back in the day without being overrun by a whole horde of them, but at the end of the day you’re right.

  • @bitterthenu7278
    @bitterthenu7278 Рік тому +15

    For me I've always seen people say that they stand around screaming for a whole episode or 2 straight, but that literally never happens. They will only scream for like 30 seconds or at most 3 minutes and then start fighting again. Never a whole episode of them screaming and not fighting

    • @SlickJarl.
      @SlickJarl. Рік тому +5

      Well, cell perfect transformation…

    • @bitterthenu7278
      @bitterthenu7278 Рік тому +4

      @SlickJarl. Yeah that was 10 minutes lol but it wasn't quite the same. Trunks was trying to stop it and cell wasn't just standing there screaming but it was a lot of crazyness going on and cutting to other characters with dialogue.

    • @bashamd96
      @bashamd96 Рік тому +2

      That's just a joke cause of how often they do the screaming power up trope

    • @SlickJarl.
      @SlickJarl. Рік тому

      @@bitterthenu7278True

    • @skygalvan1880
      @skygalvan1880 Рік тому

      They saw goku go ssj3 for the first time

  • @marcelmeza635
    @marcelmeza635 Рік тому +29

    Yes Vegeta did say that in the battle he quoted "your father was an average fighter but he was a brilliant scientist" and then he makes a an energy ball that mimics the moon's light.

    • @blaketindle4703
      @blaketindle4703 Рік тому +7

      *Only in the anime!

    • @DDBEATZZZ
      @DDBEATZZZ Рік тому +15

      ​@@blaketindle4703not only anime but from English dub. They used to invent/add a lot of extra dialogues or internal monologues non existent in the japanese version.

    • @kda9x
      @kda9x Рік тому +3

      only in the original English dub AKA the ocean dub

    • @marcelmeza635
      @marcelmeza635 Рік тому

      They should have kept it as Canon.

    • @kda9x
      @kda9x Рік тому +2

      @@marcelmeza635 it was never canon, it was only in the old dub, then when Funimation redubbed that section, it was removed.

  • @Tophadoodledoo
    @Tophadoodledoo Рік тому +10

    So in the case of Gohan's arm, I wonder if, had they taken the tech from King Cold's ship when it was there, they could have reverse engineered and built those healing pods and maybe had one at Bulma's place in the future timeline.

    • @EndoScorpion
      @EndoScorpion Рік тому +1

      It didn't regen Vegeta's tail... and tails were known for growing back on their own. And it couldn't regen Frieza's limbs, thus why he was a cyborg.
      So why would it regen an arm?

  • @arrownoir
    @arrownoir Рік тому +2

    Those aren’t Mandela effects.
    These are:
    Gohan punching Cell in the gut, making him vomit out 18
    Luke, I am your father
    HBK kicking Marty Jannety through the glass
    The monopoly guy having a monocle.

  • @jasonwolfy
    @jasonwolfy Рік тому +1

    It is crazy to hear bob from bobs burgers talk about my favorite anime

  • @7_wd40
    @7_wd40 Рік тому +4

    These aren't Mandela effects...these are purist gaslights most the fandom to forget stuff that DID actually happen but are anime only

  • @GodWorksOut
    @GodWorksOut Рік тому +2

    None of these are Mandela effects, they are just misconceptions and differences in the anime. Great content nonetheless!

  • @Crow_Rising
    @Crow_Rising Рік тому +6

    Something that could potentially be an actual mandela effect in DBZ (the anime) if other people remember the same thing, is I remember there being a scene during the Buu Saga in which Goku explains exactly how Potara power scaling works when considering his options after Gohan gets absorbed by Buu. His explanation was that if the difference in power between two individuals is too great, the resulting fusion could turn out weaker than just the stronger of the two alone, but when the two are close to the same power level their powers get multiplied together into an ultimate warrior.
    I've searched for this scene as hard as I could and not been able to find it anywhere. It seems as though it doesn't exist. Instead, there's simply a scene in which Goku briefly considers fusing with Hercule but isn't a fan of the idea, only for Vegeta to get revived and Goku senses his energy, choosing him as the better option.

    • @arrownoir
      @arrownoir Рік тому +2

      I for one don’t remember a scene like that so you could be in the minority.

    • @maniacslap1623
      @maniacslap1623 Рік тому

      Don’t remember this lol

    • @keepwaitin
      @keepwaitin Рік тому +1

      I feel like I remember that but I also have a weird Mandela effect if it’s just me but I once was reading the descriptions to episodes in season 7 and I remember it mentioning something about Super Saiyan 3 which didn’t exist yet and I remember it being like “king Kai trains goku into super Saiyan 3” but it could just me having bad memory since I only watched the buu saga once and never season 7

    • @Cerebrum123
      @Cerebrum123 11 місяців тому +1

      I remember that scene too!

    • @silkoth69
      @silkoth69 3 місяці тому

      I think you may be conflating what Old Kai says about the types of fusion and the multipliers received from there being rivalry between the fusers and what Goku says about the fusion dance and how the two fusing need to be similar in stength or else it won't work.

  • @PegasusPablo
    @PegasusPablo Рік тому +3

    Brazil's biggest Mandela effect has to do with DBZ and the Twin Towers

    • @maymay5600
      @maymay5600 Рік тому

      Huh
      💀☠️💀

    • @Fiercekun
      @Fiercekun Рік тому

      @@maymay5600 Legend says that here in Brazil on 9/11/2001, just as Goku was about to go Super Saiyan 3 for the first time against Majin Boo, the episode was cut to air the twin towers attack :s

    • @maymay5600
      @maymay5600 Рік тому

      @@Fiercekun bruhhhhh

  • @tazmanianjay2374
    @tazmanianjay2374 Рік тому +3

    Not one Mandela affect in this whole video

  • @paliboy93
    @paliboy93 Рік тому +2

    Not a lot of this is Mandela effect. This is differences between anime and manga or just misconceptions. This is mostly due to the fact that Dragonball can’t read.
    Mandela effect would be more like when people say “Krillin was stronger than Goku when they were kids.” This is evidenced by the scene when Krillin and Goku powered up as children under Roshi. However, in reality, this flashback occurs in the Buu saga when Goku is teaching Trunks and Goten the Fusion dance. This is Krillin imagining what it would have been like if he and Goku powered up at the same time. It never actually occurred.
    Another Mandela effect would be that Goku defeated Vegeta the first time they fought.

  • @SunlightAldo
    @SunlightAldo Рік тому +2

    i was rewatching that fight between goku and Vegeta recently and i lost it when they said that bardock wasnt much of a fighter but is a brilliant scientist. all i could imagine was bardock in a lab coat and glasses. i think earlier too they say that saiyans were business men (referring to how they sold planets)
    nice normal planet vegeta. business men, scientists and farmers. thats a wholesome image to paint.

  • @joezar33
    @joezar33 Рік тому +1

    Yajirobe eating a Chicken Leg nit a Corn on the Cob

  • @nessdbest8708
    @nessdbest8708 Рік тому +2

    11:55 you got that backwards.

  • @justinarzola4584
    @justinarzola4584 Рік тому +15

    I haven't seen the video yet but I'm guessing a lot of these Mandela's are due to dub changes in the anime and manga,fan assumptions or the anime changing certain things from the manga.

    • @Mvfasalways
      @Mvfasalways Рік тому +6

      This isn’t a Mandela effect

    • @CalebScott1991
      @CalebScott1991 Рік тому +7

      Yep, none of these are mandala effects

    • @chriswp50
      @chriswp50 Рік тому +1

      @@ParadiseDB7 it's not gatekeeping, these examples straight up aren't mandela effects

    • @chriswp50
      @chriswp50 Рік тому

      @@ParadiseDB7 k

    • @Mvfasalways
      @Mvfasalways Рік тому +1

      @@ParadiseDB7 lmao you are weird. This isn’t want Mandela effect means

  • @EndoScorpion
    @EndoScorpion Рік тому +1

    Further misconceptions:
    - People remember Goku's statement abotu Dabura being on par with Cell, but always forget the part where Goku corrects his own estimate and says Dabura is stronger. By thinking Dabura is on Cell's level, they think Gohan lost way more power than he did by not being able to take out Dabura.
    - Too many people think Gohan was cocky against Suer Buu, and just toying around with him. Dragging it out. When in fact the fight lasted less than a second, Gohan landed 6 solid hits on Super Buu, then Buu blew himself up and ran away. People also, in turn, think that Gohan's "messing around" is what led to not only Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks getting absorbed, but also Gohan himself. When it was in fact Goku's distraction and interferance that got Gohan absorbed, while Goten and Trunks' cockiness got themselves and Piccolo absorbed.
    - Goku won against Vegeta. Nope. Vegeta creamed Goku. Goku was paralyzed and completely out of te fight. Gohan and Krillin had to step in to save him, otherwise he would've died. Gohan was the one to finally defeat Vegeta, with some help from Krillin, Yajirobe, and even Vegeta himself.
    - Cell Saga Gohan being a teenager, and Buu saga Gohan being an adult. I think this one comes from the naming convensions in the games. Gohan was around 10 years old at the Cell games. And around 17 in the Buu saga. So Buu saga Gohan is the teenager, while Cell Games Gohan was still a kid. Gohan isn't an adult until End of Z/Super/GT.
    - Vegeta is a genuis fighter. This one is funny because there's too many Vegeta fanboys out there defending him (and no doubt most of the relies I'll get to this comment will be all about this one point). Vegeta is actually an idiot. When it comes to fighting he relies solely on being able to overpower his opponents. He will avoid fights if someone is equal to or stronger than him (meanwhile Goku will take on stronger opponents and win through strategy and skills). However, Vegeta's ego will get in the way and he'll mistakenly think he can take someone he can't. Only for him to faulter and give up after the slightest pushback. If he can't win easily he either resigns himself to defeat or will try to bluff his way out of the fight.

  • @zerocks88
    @zerocks88 Рік тому +2

    idk if its mandella effect when the anime did say it, its not the source sure but its not people misremembering something

  • @Pentaclown84
    @Pentaclown84 Рік тому +1

    goku was close enough to cell to use destructo disc to kill him

  • @manny9166
    @manny9166 Рік тому +6

    The one I remember is from the Saiyan saga, right after goku had used the kiao ken and it did nothing to Vegeta... I swear I can remember a line being said that Vegeta had trained in a technique simular to that....maybe it was just one of the many different dubs but I remember that vividly from when i was a kid

    • @Lordkeese_
      @Lordkeese_ Рік тому +4

      Ocean dub

    • @manny9166
      @manny9166 Рік тому +2

      @lordkeese3484 is that was it's from? I thought I was going crazy. Thanks

    • @BjornHeiden
      @BjornHeiden Рік тому +7

      Vegeta claims he’s encountered a technique similar to Kaioken before in the original English Z dub

    • @Lordkeese_
      @Lordkeese_ Рік тому +1

      @@manny9166 yessir

  • @ALEXANDERATTACK
    @ALEXANDERATTACK Рік тому +1

    I don't care if the Vegeta part when Vegeta is revived is non-canon. There is nothing cooler than him saying...
    CAN A GHOST DO THIS!!?

  • @dantedeloden
    @dantedeloden Рік тому +1

    wait what about the fact the original dub SAID gokus father was a brilliant scientist is a mandela effect. IT DID SAY THAT, THERES NO MANDELA EFFECT.

    • @dantedeloden
      @dantedeloden Рік тому

      i honestly think you dont know wtf mandela effect even means dude. rofl this is hysterical

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +3

    Love your content Mike! You always make My day 😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @Juxie27
    @Juxie27 Рік тому +1

    Great concept for a video! Intriguing! Keep it up bro 🙌

  • @gamingguru2k6
    @gamingguru2k6 Рік тому +6

    The stress of SS3 on living Goku kept him from going all out. Battle of Gods may imply that SS3 can be at least mastered enough to be useful. Dead SS3 Goku may have done a better job against Kid Buu. He was trying to kill Buu the whole time.

  • @dereckkessler
    @dereckkessler Рік тому +8

    How long was goku in the afterlife before his fight with Pikon? If it wasn't very long than it's safe to say he developed the super kioken in the time chamber training with Gohan. If he did he could have definitely used it to kill cell. I'm just saiyan

    • @Jiron127
      @Jiron127 Рік тому

      ​@@SpeezyOTBjust faster than goku, not cell. Goku was actually the stronger of the two. But the difference is far smaller than the gap between the speed gap.
      The whole pikkon fight is noncanon. So goku never developed anything. Even though he should've. But it's possible cell would also try it???

    • @yourgrandmasjzexboyfriend
      @yourgrandmasjzexboyfriend Рік тому

      Non canon so forget about it

  • @DarthNoshitam
    @DarthNoshitam Рік тому +2

    A real Mandela effect in DB would be that Goku always defeats Vegeta

  • @grandsaga
    @grandsaga Рік тому +1

    English dub Future Gohan was on a whole other level from his other depictions. "There is no end to what I've become." He was on the Obi-wan level of ready to die. Peak depiction, no contest.

  • @sirsir9665
    @sirsir9665 10 місяців тому +1

    The Goku died vs Frieza is dumb because I doubt a Super Saiyan could of been killed so easy by Lava

  • @mr.knightthedetective7435
    @mr.knightthedetective7435 Рік тому +1

    Goku CLEARLY wasn't holding back against Cell, his Mastered SSJ form was at 100% the whole time and Goku exhausted most of his energy on Instant Kamehameha which didn't work on Perfect Cell in the end plus he didn't have enough potential at that time to become SSJ2 which Gohan did. Maybe if Perfect Cell killed all of his friends Goku would've unlocked SSJ2 form but it wouldn't be as effective as Gohans

  • @nigeljefferson7096
    @nigeljefferson7096 Рік тому +1

    So none of these are actually Mandela effects because they did actually happen and we’re just misinterpreted, Mandela effect is something that didn’t happen but people think it did

  • @Brutalmetal93
    @Brutalmetal93 Рік тому +2

    The vast majority of these aren't mandala effects. If something is written differently in other versions of media, people arent remembering it incorrectly, theyre simply consuming a version of the content different to the original.

  • @shinobistrikerfanatic7837
    @shinobistrikerfanatic7837 Рік тому +1

    My Mandela effect for DBZ…. Ten Shinhan killed Cell

  • @omnipot7141
    @omnipot7141 Рік тому +1

    These aren't Mandela effects if we're reviewing different forms of media with differentiating details and developments of characters in regards to the anime and manga.

  • @GoldenKid24K
    @GoldenKid24K Рік тому +2

    I feel like goku was holding back because he had super sayian 3 for a while I believe he didnt want everyone depending on him and he wanted gohan to step up. He didn't even use super sayian 3 against vegeta and vegeta called him out on it.

  • @ajdynamo6866
    @ajdynamo6866 Рік тому +1

    I don't think these are actual Mandela Effects. Its just a case that most people watched the anime but never read the manga.

  • @Dcthetruth85
    @Dcthetruth85 Рік тому +1

    Im always gonna take the History of Trunks Future Gohan over any other.

  • @Davizitoh
    @Davizitoh 2 дні тому

    Trunks achieving SSJ after Gohan death in the middle of the rain was *ºchef kissº*

  • @montessaurus
    @montessaurus Рік тому

    I'm loving the Laughingstock/Qaaman collab, hell yeeeeee boys

  • @yungkidnf
    @yungkidnf Рік тому +1

    Second one: Same EXACT as the first

  • @GeteMachine
    @GeteMachine Рік тому +1

    To be fair, even as someone that doesn't hate GT because the Baby arc was good, but Funimation was kind of right that first portion of the adventure stuff and rehash of DB humor without any fights was pretty boring. Most games usually skip it too and the unpopular shadow dragons, before Eis or Nouva.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 Рік тому

      That's cause none of the encounters before Myuu were any real threat. Dragonball had become about serious threats dating back to King Piccolo.

  • @Supermateo97
    @Supermateo97 Рік тому +1

    Idk if it counts but:
    The dub where Piccolo calls Raditz FTL, where in the original it was just said “he was fast” - leading to the VERY common misconception that the Z fighters were FTL from the frickin Saiyan Saga.
    Which is just… dumb.

  • @Gypsy_Nightshade
    @Gypsy_Nightshade Рік тому

    A mandella effect I remember specifically was when mystic Gohan transformed he had black hair and the style of SSJ 2 but his eyes were still green.

  • @Pa1ad1no
    @Pa1ad1no Рік тому

    Nice video, and a great combo of Qaaman and LSM!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +1

    Amazing video as always Mike! Your collabs are always out lf this world 😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @dellosayshello5405
    @dellosayshello5405 Рік тому +2

    I guess one would be that gonna be brought up is are they in ssj and ssj2 or even ssj2 itself that’s right Toriyama is not the only who forgot about ssj2 I did too

  • @LSMMIKE
    @LSMMIKE  Рік тому +7

    Hey guys, thanks for watching! What are some other Mandela Effects in the Dragon Ball franchise? Let us know in the comments!

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 Рік тому +1

      It was a great time man!

    • @gabrielv1093
      @gabrielv1093 Рік тому

      Mike, theres an Mandella effect that happend here in Brazil, were during the time that the Twin tower were announced being attacked in an emergency allert
      Alot of people here remenber that they were watching on the Channel Globo that Goku was Transforming into Ss3 but the transmission was stopped to announce the twin towers attack
      The thing with this is that it would impossible for that to be true because during the time the towers were being attacked, Here in Brazil the channel Globo was still going trough the early episodes of the Cell saga at the time.

    • @donovanbradford8231
      @donovanbradford8231 Рік тому +1

      A effect you didn't bring up which I not only remember but seeing others mention it was Gohan's overall power during the fight with Freiza and just how strong Gohan is. Because after Krillin is gored by Freiza Gohan goes nuts and attacks Freiza knocking him to the ground then blasting him. The next is when he helps Piccolo against Freiza as Freiza seems to struggle against the beam and as a result people thought Gohan was far stronger than he really was. The reality is yes Gohan gets a power boost when he's angry but given where he was before the fights with Freiza start not a chance he ever stood a chance because in each chance is not only many times stronger but seems to either not pay attention and gets careless or is just killing time while he waits for a pick up.

    • @Sailor11Sedna
      @Sailor11Sedna Рік тому

      I heard from Takahata101 from Team Four Star that Cell injects his victims with acid to liquify their insides, and then sucks them up. I figured this must have been stated in an interview or a guidebook which I wouldn’t have access to.

  • @Bassua255
    @Bassua255 17 годин тому

    When I was a kid, I always remembered Gohan saying Videl's hair would get in her way while trying to fly, and she responded by ripping her pigtails out on the spot, prompting Gohan to train her because he got nervous.
    Turns out, I must have had a dream of it or just imagined that's how she cut her hair offscreen. I've rewatched a few times as an adult, and always wonder why I remember the fake scene so vividly.

  • @daysgobye
    @daysgobye Рік тому

    I'm convinced that the guy talking off-screen is really the liver king.

  • @JUST_BE_TALKING
    @JUST_BE_TALKING Рік тому

    I love watching your videos mane keep it up

  • @justinlynch3
    @justinlynch3 Рік тому +1

    I think with Cell it isn't what's said cause Goku says something similar in the anime, I think it was "I was giving Cell all I got" or something to that extent. The anime also shows everybody (minus Goku) being shocked at SSJ1 Gohan's power when he powers up.
    I think where the Goku being stronger than Goku thought comes from is the fight itself and people not understanding Gohan's power. After all we see Goku having this intense, back and forth, even looking fight with Cell. Then when Gohan gets in there, Cell just whoops his ass. I think this is why fans think "Well that must mean Goku > Gohan" while not understanding the whole point of that wasn't that Gohan wasn't stronger as SSJ1 then Goku (he was), but that Gohan didn't WANT to fight, he didn't want to risk what would happen if he let his power truly run wild.
    Although if I remember right (correct me if I'm wrong) the anime does screw up the power scaling when Goku goes 50% at Korin's doesn't it, implying Goku was stronger? But everything at the Cell games I'm pretty sure the anime puts over the same message the manga did about Gohan being stronger.
    It has been a while since I watched the entire show though, so maybe I am Mandela Effected right now. lol

  • @CallyMan90
    @CallyMan90 Рік тому +2

    "Common misconceptions in Dragon ball" should be the title. ;)
    An example of a Mandela effect would be a group of people remembering that Krillin never had spots on his head or something.

  • @oAndreGabs
    @oAndreGabs Рік тому

    The biggest mandela effect occured in Brasil, everyone believed for years that in September 11, the episode of DBZ when Goku transforms to SSJ3 was interrupted to show the news about the news about the attack on WTC, there's even montages about that, but in fact, in the moment that the channel that aired DBZ interrupt the scheduled shows, it was transmitting a puppet show

  • @vulfreyde
    @vulfreyde Рік тому +1

    Differences in manga and anime aren't Mandela effects.

  • @AndrewAce.
    @AndrewAce. Рік тому +2

    2:15 - Never made any sense. Goku was perfectly fine, so why would his Ki disappear? Filler bullshit...
    Also, it's a good thing Goku finished his call before Frieza disconnected his number!

    • @tarrenceprice9458
      @tarrenceprice9458 Рік тому +2

      Haha I love when Frieza says that haha

    • @AndrewAce.
      @AndrewAce. Рік тому

      @@tarrenceprice9458 Those old FUNimation lines were the best 🤣

    • @donovanbradford8231
      @donovanbradford8231 Рік тому

      Yeah that one was really odd and I had to ask are they making that up or is this the ultimate cope of Freiza fans. Because never did I remember anyone once Goku became a Super Sayian that he was in any danger of losing the fight it just seemed more like he was learning the limits of his abilities.

    • @AndrewAce.
      @AndrewAce. Рік тому

      @@donovanbradford8231 Maybe it's because he got sent into the lava, but I wouldn't really consider that to be a serious threat. Anyway, the anime tried to sell it, but like you said, it's just not believable. And really it's contrived when you consider he was completely unharmed- yet his Ki vanished and he disappeared for a long stretch of the episode for no apparent reason...

  • @tusharagarwal5306
    @tusharagarwal5306 Рік тому +1

    Most of them are differences between anime and manga not mandela effect.

  • @laroncarter4082
    @laroncarter4082 Рік тому

    The space adventures in GT was definitely a struggle to get through

  • @joshoconnor9666
    @joshoconnor9666 Рік тому +4

    As far as the cell goku fight the main reason people think goku was holding back is because we have seen how goku behaves and how he fights when he is not holding back. During the cell fight his entire demeanor is different. He is much more calm than a goku who is not holding back, goku will often become angry or anxious which forces him to think outside the box, try new or unique moves, and really push himself. He follows through with continuous attacks, he is TRYING to win. During the cell fight his moves are more so emphasizing tge ART in martial arts and not as much the combat. Long stretches of time with string out in between attacks, he's much more calm and only really tries one unique move set before he just quits which was the Kamehameha coupled with instant transmission. He never really allowed himself to be put in a position to get creative, he was never really angry or anxious which is a huge departure from the goku we all know when he's in a battle to win it.(at least battles in which he is unsure if he can win) This is why people (myself included) think he was holding back, even if it was just a little. Or in the very least he was holding back in the sense that he wasn't really in it to win it.

    • @Jiron127
      @Jiron127 Рік тому

      That'd be correct. His heart wasn't in it. The cell saga failed to have real drama that didn't seem premeditated. Goku turning over the fight to Gohan is honestly out of character.
      I wrote a version that was more appealing to what should've happened in my opinion.

  • @alonsonuno433
    @alonsonuno433 Рік тому

    Sick collab video 🤙

  • @Demmmm123
    @Demmmm123 Рік тому +1

    These are misconceptions more than the Mandela Effect.

  • @yungkidnf
    @yungkidnf Рік тому +1

    10 min in and I haven't seen a single example of an actual Mandela effect yet 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @Zaynyak51
    @Zaynyak51 Рік тому +1

    You guys are wrong about the first one with goku on namek it's not that shenron can't bring people back to life more then once it's that you can't repeat a wish bringing back everyone Frieza and his men killed on namek is technically a different wish that the wish to bring goku back to life

  • @BeaglzRok1
    @BeaglzRok1 Рік тому +1

    I actually like the fact that 17 was holding back against Future Gohan. It explains why Trunks is confused as to why 17 and 18 are so much stronger in the past than he thought they would be; he never saw them at full power. It serves some nice dramatic irony.

    • @jdrmanmusiqking
      @jdrmanmusiqking Рік тому +1

      Naaaah that doesnt fit the Androids are still waaaaay more than twice as strong in the future timeline droids
      Trunks coming back has time ripples and this was one of them. I also theorized that our Gero made Andriggities stronger due to seeing another SSJ in Trunks and his Gero only say SSJ Vegeta and Trunks

    • @MisterCynic18
      @MisterCynic18 11 місяців тому

      Well given he was unconscious in both versions, he's never actually seen them at full power regardless

  • @dmariots
    @dmariots Рік тому +1

    I think I can explain yajirobe. He had a sensu bean or was full of sensu beans.

  • @onthespoke2
    @onthespoke2 Рік тому +1

    is this the guy from Bob's Burgers?

  • @thomaswagner2243
    @thomaswagner2243 Рік тому

    The kid Buu fight in the anime Goku does actually say "I could have probably finished him when I was at full power but I wanted to give you a shot at him"

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Рік тому +1

    Everyone knows Kakarot’s father was a BRILLIANT SCIENTIST!!! 😂

  • @khumokwezimashapa2245
    @khumokwezimashapa2245 Рік тому +1

    31:57 Well of course Bardock wasn't average. He was far beyond it, for you see- *You're not dealing with the average Saiyan warrior anymore* ...

  • @bigmanwonderland2296
    @bigmanwonderland2296 Рік тому +2

    Yeah this isn't Mandela

  • @DrBacalex
    @DrBacalex Рік тому

    Love the shoutout to Geekdom’s Dragon Ball Unseen 🐉

  • @marcus7984
    @marcus7984 Рік тому

    I remember the "Lost episodes" thing from GT lol

  • @alexanwhat
    @alexanwhat 4 дні тому

    My biggest Mandela Effect is misremembering that the "Tree of Might" villain was Raditz, I don't know why I have that memory so darn vivid in my head. I was a kid and CN kept airing that movie a lot. I don't know why for the life of me I keep thinking Raditz was in it and not Turles, drives me crazy when I think about it

  • @Zakumaki
    @Zakumaki Рік тому +2

    i could be wrong but couldn't the dragon balls on namek bring people back more than once?

    • @jromer0
      @jromer0 Рік тому +3

      Yes Dende says that their DBs can revive anybody an unlimited number of times unless they died naturally

    • @LSMMIKE
      @LSMMIKE  Рік тому

      The Earth Dragon Balls were used to bring those on Namek back to life, including Grand Elder. Dende then used the Namekian balls to wish everyone to Earth except Goku and Frieza. No one in this video said the Namekian balls can't bring someone back multiple times. Both of these things are plot points in the story.

  • @jblb9656
    @jblb9656 Місяць тому

    For the Berduck mandela effect , it wasnt just english dub ,im french canadian and i had the volume#20(yadjirobe)were it was translated in France probably , i dont remember him being called a scientist but i read that berduck wasnt strong physically but was a genius in technique and/or combat

  • @supermanwithheat
    @supermanwithheat Рік тому

    Here’s another Mandela affect: at around minute 24:03 in the original release of those video, some might say Quaman said “… that’s another timeversation for another video ..” when other timeless might have heard “… that’s another topic for another day..” or “…that’s another conversation for another day…”
    Which reality are you guys in? What did you hear? lol

  • @Jotari
    @Jotari 11 місяців тому

    The opening GT episodes were not cut for English Dub fans. They were cut for American fans. In Europe we got all of those episodes broadcasted on TV.

  • @joeysullivanTM
    @joeysullivanTM Рік тому +1

    Great video! 🗿👏

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 Рік тому +1

    “You don’t plan on beating me like that, do you?”
    Lol the English dub had Goku throw some serious shade at Piccolo!
    Also Goku throws shade at Vegeta in the dub when he tells Fat Buu “I’m guessing an ascended super saiyan isn’t much of a challenge for you?” 😂

  • @grammysworld5449
    @grammysworld5449 Рік тому

    Mandela effect for me is for some reason, alot of my friends remember Goku smacking Gohan on Namek