Disclaimer: There have been many comments saying Dragon is unbeatable or my counters get countered. There is no such thing as a perfect counter, nobody wins every fight. Given two random PvPers, the one with Dragon would win MOST of the time, but Dragon's skill ceiling is low: its power grows exponentially slower as a person increases skill. Some of my niche tricks can be countered, however I also explain optimized builds, in which given a matchup between infinitely skilled Dragon vs. Build(eg: Portal), the Dragon can be taken down.
Indeed, there is no such thing as a perfect counter, here is my counter to Blizz F tho, and there are other points I will put in here to help my Fellow Dragon Spammers make an uno reverse card against these counters. (Copied from my Comment on this very same video) I'm a PROUD Dragon Spammer with Shark V4, Countering blizz f is easy, whenever I see a blizz user, I Just summon an SB (10M ability) and never really go far from the Sea so the SB's roar can stun the Blizzard user + you can use your moves on your summoned SB to refill your Fury Meter, and you might even get V4. In cases where you're far from the sea and need to escape (dunno if you can do that while a blizzard user is using F move on you), use the "upward flying speed glitch" by facing your dragon upwards, pointing the camera down, and spamming Up and Down, then just fly down with it's natural speed boost to go near the sea. In most cases, whenever I enter a server in second sea, I use my alt to turn my pvp off without losing bounty, then going to sea with a fast boat, summon an SB, spam M1's to get Fury and V4 meters full. then tp "home" and wreak Havoc. Just got to 20M doing just that. No trashtalking or crying and saying "runner", I fully understand if they tp somewhere just to escape from me, anyway I'm just enjoying and maximizing my perm Dragon. EDIT: I think Draco V3 Ability stops Blizzard F? might be wrong but whatever lol.
As a western, so far every portal user I have spammed against, whenever they have tries running I've went in the portal,like legit every single time I've fought a runner portal I've been able to go through the portal
Plz read: I’m pretty sure somebody mentioned this below me, but cdk does full dmg to the dragon transformation, which has a 60% dmg reduction. Use cdk to fight against one, the big Hitbox allows u to land easy full charged x.
yes i easily countered dragons with buddha v1+dracov4+Levi shield+ cdk easily js hit in dragons chest it's where the hitbox at and spam till you kill it
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these: Blizzard: Use cyborg V3 Dragon: Run into the air Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
The reason for shark anchor and the cursed dual katanas ignoring dragons defense, is actually somewhat important to their kit. For the cursed dual katanas last move, slayer of goliath, is pretty straightforward. Dragon in this case is that goliath, and not to mention that it does negate their damage reduction but not completely. And for shark anchor, armor breaker does more damage to larger targets, and almost completely ignored defense and damage reduction.
me personally, i use ttk for the x moves stun and range, if a dragon is on the ground or holding a move in the air, i can stun it with x and get close with portal, then spam all my moves. another build that works somehow is diamond. the v and x stun, and the m1 is good mobility similar to portal. pair it with sanguine and a mobility/ stun sword like yama and it works decently.( with v4 preferably XD)(im pretty sure there a youtube video somewhere calling it the "dragonslayer" build) ( use diamond m1 and yama to get close, stun with soul guitar, use diamond v, x, then all the sanguine moves.( by then yama cooldown should be over. use yama z/x to stun, and continue spamming)
Eastern c's move is almost impossible to escape since u get stun and get 1k or 3k damage or even more,and has a great stun moves and this means u need to equip the west dragon to defeat the east
Id actually say west is good for killing east and just because of that people think its better than east in terms of pvp aswell but i feel that east is better than west in pvp for several reasons
Another tip is that soul guitar z maks the dragon slower and unable to attack, any stun will for that matter. so using a stun build on a dragon (mainly sword), it is MUCH easier to kill.
Good tips ngl i use the portal trick but i think i should change to the blizz one Another advice that is using buddha , buddha can jump high , have high defense so you can spam m1 and skills on the dragon i have defeated quite some dragon spammers with buddha
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these: Blizzard: Use cyborg V3 Dragon: Run into the air Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
as a dragon main i encountered many of these and people have tried this on me like the blizzard fruit and i countered it by just using the x move (the move still works if you dont hold it long enough) another method is to just summon a sea beast which stuns the person long enough for me to combo them
@rulerin2 it wasn't a max level account, so it could just be that ONE alt where people use combat until the very end. That was my immediate thoughts anyway. Still, dragon spammers are very over reliant on dragon's transformation, so you're not wrong.
Thanks for the tips, really didn't need them but yea, i'll probably try to remember these tips for the next time i fight a dragon user. Normally i just spam them untill they die. I sent this video to my friend and he said it was very helpfull, and he said it was an amazing video. Keep up the great work man.
Pro tip: If your in second sea and using Portal remember to use Remote island combo and not Admin killer against a fully transformed west dragon as Dragon has 100% stun and knockback resistance as it can't be stunned or knocked back so best way is to get em stuck somewhere they can't move East Dragon: Doghouse or raid room in second sea West dragon: Remote island
@@sparky19991 lol you should really try diamond it has m1s which are great for mobility and are arguably better then portal m1s. The X move combo starts and extends and the V move has to much range and ken breaks that it literally always hits and cancels moves, not to mention the free 25% defense buff for sword mains. Try it
@@sparky19991 Diamond X move combo starts AND extends and the Diamond M1 is arguably BETTER then portal M1 for mobility. Add a great free hit V move that ken breaks and 25% defense for free to your sword build and you have the best sword main fruit
Diamond’s m1 has endlag and is not instant(like Phoenix m1), Portal’s m1’s are better in every way is not the only mobility move. X move is impossible to hit if opponents are in the air, and V move does not justify the rest of the kit being too weak, especially against dragons. Meanwhile, Portal gives you instant TP, invincibility frames, and almost infinite combos.
Warning too much text xd: Since he gave tips on how to fight dragons, I bring you how to fight people who do what the video mentions. 1.- Against other dragons simply avoid the other dragon's C and attack it with all your movements (basically the one who spams the most wins) 2.- Against the portals when they use the x to avoid movement c, move constantly with the help of the f (around the map or in the air) when you locate it use the x and m1, if you can use the f as an attack and to Use c only if the portal has already spent its x. 3.- I recommend using the Gohl race since it lowers your skill waiting times and in the process steals some life, although the human or angel race are also good options and the cyborg race, well, I won't even tell you. 4.- against the dragonstorm only... call to god💀 (use the base form and pray to beat him) 5.- Practice the base form in cases where step 4 happens to you. 6.- If they make you a team, load the fury meter to the top or the closest and use v4 (if you managed to fill the fury bar, simply transform instantly once you activate the v4 race)
Coming from someone who actually knows how to use dragon, I’ll explain how effective these will be: The first method is good, but it can be very VERY easily avoided. It’s like trying to punch someone as hard as you possibly can in the middle of a fight. It’s unlikely to land. The second method is 100% true. The third method is also extremely easy to defend against if you know how to use dragon like myself. Your best bet is to either hope the dragon user doesn’t know how to use it to its fullest, or just run away which is what 90% of portal users do anyways.
Another tip if ur using portal always teleport to haunted castle and if the dragon gets in ur portal it will be stuck and if they wanna get out they have to untransform and meanwhile they do u can attack from far or when they untransform jus pack them
I tested West vs East many times, the West user always wins. West is faster, has longer range and moves are instant. East needs to stay in one place for X and C move and opponents have to be close to do damage. West has no close range disadvantage, its X and C move guarantees a hit if aimed at general direction and F move is so much easier to land.
W vid man, personally I think dragon needs a complete rebalancing as its current standing in the pvp meta is way to overpowered however, I would also argue that the untransformed version is very underpowered when compared to fruits such as kitsune which causes this huge gap between transformed and untransformed. This gap essentially means that almost every player will grind their dragon to transformation rather than use base form as their is little incentive to do so. This is because untransformed dragon is extremely weak to anything in the air and lacks good combo potential. here are my suggestions to both nerf transformation and buff base form untransformed Z-move: deals good damage but the beam itself has a very bad hitbox making it very difficult to hit air campers and portal users. To buff this they should increase the beams hitbox Untransformed X-move: works as a combo extender however cant break ken while also moving very slow and throwing opponent away effectively being a worse godhuman-z. To buff this they should either increase the speed of the attack or make the move break ken. Untransformed C-move: terrible against any opponent in the air on top of end lag making follow up attacks able to be avoided by flash steps. To buff this the spread of the attack should be decreased so it can be more effective against air based opponents or the end lag should be removed to make follow up attacks much easier. untransformed F-move: Balanced To Nerf the transformed version of dragon not only should the bar drain much faster but the attacks themselves should all have an increased cooldowns to reduce the spamming of the abilities. Personally I think the damage reduction and output of the fruit should remain the same as altering either would make the fruit insanely weak to teamers, thanks to the huge hitbox but overall I think if these changes are made it would greatly balance the fruit as it definitely should remain strong, but no at is current level however, I believe simultaneously buffing the untransformed version will incentivise players to use that rather then spamming transformation and will overall, will make the fruit a bit more skill based rather than fighting dragon spam. I hope in the future dragon can become a fruit similar to kitsune having a transformation that is strong but skilled players can easily overpower while also having an untransformed version that is still very effective in pvp when used with the correct build. Let me know if you think I am on too something or not but thanks for reading.
i recommend godhuman the most, use sanguine if you want heatwave beam to keep hitting you, godhuman has transportation moves, Soaring beast, Sixth Realm Gun, and Sixth Realm Gun and Soaring Beast can make the Heatwave Beam cancel due to insane damage, sanguine whatsoever only has 1 transportation move, and it's even barely making you move, its Bloodbane Drain.
For anyone wondering if there's anything else you can use other than blizzard or portal, Leo is a good option. If you manage to get on then with Leo transformation, spamming all the move, untransforming to spam other moves, and then back to Leo can one shot a dragon if done right. It's pretty hard to do tho but better than most other fruits. Pretty much any fruit with stun on most if not all the moves are good. Moves that need to be held down for long arnt useful tho such as dough V. Most swords other than cdk are useless for fighting dragon unless you have portal to keep up and you're playing correctly. Acid rifle is a good gun to use for it's m1 range but that's about all. Fish is good race for tanking but it's slow and pretty bad ova, Mink is good to be faster in air and being able to run too a portal to go to different island, cyborg doesn't do bunch besides some extra DMG, ghoul is perfect for spamming at dragons while still helping you heal and be fast, human isn't the best for anything besides going crazy when you're low although it's v4% is really good if you get it build up. Angle v4 is good for things like blizzard F too kept them from attacking, and Draco only good for DMG when v4 and staying up in the sky. Thats about all ik from playing. I swap builds a lot and so I learn tips and tricks like this. Dont forget you don't have to fight a dragon again after losing. Take your lost and server hop.
i struggle to fight dragons my build is gas godhuman ghoul v4 (base) hallow sytche and i use koucho i tend to be able to spar with it for a bit transformed i use poilet hood or dino hood but i just dont have the damage to put it down
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these: Blizzard: Use cyborg V3 Dragon: Run into the air Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
Literal sensei type shi bro. You have great content; crazy how you have less than 500 subs as of me typing this. You’re gonna blow up like crazy bro! And it’s all well-deserved too. Keep going, good luck my g
The devs had the chance to make flight moves and draco race appearances change on whether the person is using west or east variant and they didnt make it (Western for default is fine tho). Just a simple hybrid in chinese mythos or the reference of kaido in one piece will be neat and worth the efforts
1st way hardest but most effectivly except untransformation,Or some race skills that can cancel your skill such as Cybrog v3 damage Drago V3 ability,ghoul v4 Crow,Angel V4 and maybe mink v4(I don’t sure that mink V4 or Ghoul v4 crow will work or not and for Angel V4 if you don’t get hit by it you will able ti kill that dragon user,cybrog v3 may not hit if you out of it range so Drago v3 should be the easiest way to counter blizzard that counter Dragon’s full transformation)by the way blizzard f have short cooldown so it will have a change to beat dragon when get skill cancel if you not dead before the cooldown is ready and you can use blizzard v to make damage while waiting f mive is ready if you use ghoul V3 you’ll able to use F move faster so you’ll have more chance to use F move before dragon user spam skills on you.Second way(The easiest way) is just you have to be better skill but I don’t feel like enjoy Dragon even I have perm it just like bullying other not fighting players.The thrid way is the second hardest and you have to dodge dragon skill if you can do it your chance to beat dragon is high.
Note that cdk's X DOES negate its resistance, just not completely, but it still doesnt deal 60% less damage, its less than 60% less, so its better And btw cdk does an absolutely amazing job at dealing a lot of damage to dragons, before they even realize it they will be almost dead
@sparky19991 yeah before that it was definetly bugged, I was dealing like 2k damage now it's double that lol I'm not sure about shark anchor tho I haven't used it
nah fr the simplest way to beat those freaks is to be a former memeber of the Cipher Pol 0, its easy to counter them, yet they're not even worth wasting time due to their lack of battle honor.
im 27m and this is how i encounter dragon : i use sound and cyborg, since i dont get draco race tho but cyborg and sound is suit for me . justtry survive their attack and getting your v4 on then run to place which has the most npc and if the dragon followed you this is your chance..... use sound c on them since npc act like player/teamer so high damage to dragon and i use dragon trident to keep the dragon stunted :>
I personally run base or hybrid with black belt and human race (tushita, dt, kab) but if you know how to use Eastern dragon, it's not bad, especially with the heavy aoe, and high damage close ranged moves, a lot of people don't use the f ability right to close distance, how to use it to deal damage to other dragons, or how to use it when land isn't around, if you release f early, it still does the damage (plus lei is good in transformation)
My trick if I’m getting chased by a dragon is go in haunted ship or a place where you enter through a small door and get tped somewhere and then I switch to yeti and hide behind the door and wait for them and spam on them 😈
The problem when U try to flash step is u might get stun locked or slowed down, plus the area hitbox of the C move from west is pretty big so js pray if the dragon's aim is bad
sanguine and blizzard with dragon trident and with the dragonstorm with ghoul or angel v4 is the only way u can survive dragon fruit if u dont have like yeti or gas this is if u dont use drag
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these: Blizzard: Use cyborg V3 Dragon: run into the air Portal: Don’t fight portals. They can run very fast and you can’t catch them. So it’s not even worth fighting them. When you see one, run into the air. And last of all, have NO shame.
I fight portals most of the time with sand, and I win, it’s not very hard UNLESS they are running, world warping or using parallel escape most of the time.
As a dragon player I won’t tell you Method 1: blizzard player, dragon won’t stay on the ground so u are just useless Method 2: You can be a teammer to kill it and not by 1v1 and you can avoid the other dragon player to get his furry meter Method 3: as we can see you can’t even get close to dragon player so portal v is very useless and I can just wait you come out Method 3 part 2: as we can see if you use c to run out I’ll use pale scarf to see where do u go and just come to you
1. Blizzard trick works when Dragon is flying and is meant to be used once when Dragon is caught off guard 2. By that logic I can call in my entire crew of Dragons 3. I said Dragon running is impossible to catch, but spamming Portal V before he is low might give you a chance to kill it, even if dragon runs you technically win the fight. Portal C is instant, if a dragon flies to your island, what’s stopping you from using it again or returning to safe zone?
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these: Blizzard: Use cyborg V3 Dragon: Run into the air Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
@@sparky19991 spirits red bar spawners can be used on dragon, with ghoul v4 or v3 usage you can use spirits faster as well (all 9 on the dragon at the same time) only if the dragons on the ground though. but mammoth works pretty well too
Every dragon I fight just runs cuz they made it nearly as fast as lights flight without anything. And they don’t go slower at low hp so they always run after going on 1hp. Most dragon users are trash even with transformation against portal cdk, also the blizzard counter was one of the best things I’ve seen in pvp.
Old meta is back 😎 Also if u pvp with a dragon in SECOND SEA, if its western, use portal to tp to console island and then just deal damage. IF WESTERN tp to café and do the same
If me im just try bring them to small place maybe they will stuck. Or use builds that can make lots of stunts to dragon by getting So Close to them quickly ,beware of their next move
I recommend using portal in second sea that way, when ur low u can to into either remote island, cafe, doghous. It will make transformed dragons stuck inside the buildings/mountain
If the dragon uses lei and angel v4 it practically beats method 3 and 2 (the healing is actually insane and you get a 3k heal from angel v3 every 30 secs)
another way to combo dragon wests: use buddha glitch which gives you big buddha ring but you are small (the hitbox is small jst like a normal character but to others you are just a buddha no changes so it'll confuse the drags and u can ez spam cdk and godhuman with mink v4)
The dragons always get their transformation before PvP and if you haven’t seen videos on it already it melts ur hp entirely with massive aoe 1. Blizzard - ur probably not getting that close and even if you do, if you slip up and miss blizzard isn’t saving you 2. CDK and shark anchor lack mobility - perfect for large aoe dragon attacks 3. Sky camping - what dragon was bro fighting bro air camping does not save you 💀
1. Blizzard is a niche one-time trick 2. CDK has great mobility, and you’re using Portal anyway. Both CDK and Shark Anchor X moves do more damage than usual against beast fruit resistance. 3. The Dragon I was fighting is better than most I encountered, Dragon’s skill ceiling is lower than many think.
For me I use sanguine portal anchor and soul guitar the secret for me here is ghoul v4 or v3 which if you reach the dragon body then it's a guarantee kill you need to ise soul guitar z to keep stunning the dragon and with ghoul cd reduction it's impossible for the dragon to escape and since you get life steal as well you can't die
The only running abuse dragons use is by going up the sky, aiming the dragon user's screen camera infront of the dragon in 3rd person, and Constantly presses the W key, because the W key provides them an unfair advantage that makes them dive down but Actually diving upwards while there camera is pointed infront of there fully transformed form, also this video could be effective, BUT its based on the dragon user youre fighting and how good they are using it, everytime i encounter one trying to kill me, it doesnt confront me that fast, it literally is floating above me without me knowing and fully charges up the Z move on me then dives down to go full mayhem on me
Disclaimer: There have been many comments saying Dragon is unbeatable or my counters get countered. There is no such thing as a perfect counter, nobody wins every fight. Given two random PvPers, the one with Dragon would win MOST of the time, but Dragon's skill ceiling is low: its power grows exponentially slower as a person increases skill. Some of my niche tricks can be countered, however I also explain optimized builds, in which given a matchup between infinitely skilled Dragon vs. Build(eg: Portal), the Dragon can be taken down.
"No such thing as a Perfect counter"
Chop and Rubber users: 🤨
Indeed, there is no such thing as a perfect counter, here is my counter to Blizz F tho, and there are other points I will put in here to help my Fellow Dragon Spammers make an uno reverse card against these counters. (Copied from my Comment on this very same video)
I'm a PROUD Dragon Spammer with Shark V4, Countering blizz f is easy, whenever I see a blizz user, I Just summon an SB (10M ability) and never really go far from the Sea so the SB's roar can stun the Blizzard user + you can use your moves on your summoned SB to refill your Fury Meter, and you might even get V4.
In cases where you're far from the sea and need to escape (dunno if you can do that while a blizzard user is using F move on you), use the "upward flying speed glitch" by facing your dragon upwards, pointing the camera down, and spamming Up and Down, then just fly down with it's natural speed boost to go near the sea.
In most cases, whenever I enter a server in second sea, I use my alt to turn my pvp off without losing bounty, then going to sea with a fast boat, summon an SB, spam M1's to get Fury and V4 meters full. then tp "home" and wreak Havoc.
Just got to 20M doing just that. No trashtalking or crying and saying "runner", I fully understand if they tp somewhere just to escape from me, anyway I'm just enjoying and maximizing my perm Dragon.
EDIT: I think Draco V3 Ability stops Blizzard F? might be wrong but whatever lol.
No such a thing as perfect counter… wait is that barier
@@TheRealKinquestcyborg v3 can counter blizzard f
I dont want say that but reall dragon counter is dough
"if you can't beat them, join them"
thanks i'll take that one advice 💀💀
That what I do
Thanks, as an dragon user i won't fall to these
oh yes you will
@@demize3365 Nuh uh
@@demize3365 He didnt watch the vid lol
@@sparky19991 this vid earned u a new subscriber and fan lol
"an dragon💔"
6:10 Unlike Western, Eastern dragon can actually still follow you if the portal is low enough to the ground/sea
Rarely used it against Eastern, that’s an interesting fact
west can actually go through portal too (only if the portal is slightly off the ground
@ Yeah, said that in the video
As a western, so far every portal user I have spammed against, whenever they have tries running I've went in the portal,like legit every single time I've fought a runner portal I've been able to go through the portal
@@PinkertonRealif you fight in sea 2 and portal user tps to remote island and you go trough it you'll get stuck and then they can ez kill you
Plz read: I’m pretty sure somebody mentioned this below me, but cdk does full dmg to the dragon transformation, which has a 60% dmg reduction. Use cdk to fight against one, the big Hitbox allows u to land easy full charged x.
yes i easily countered dragons with buddha v1+dracov4+Levi shield+ cdk easily js hit in dragons chest it's where the hitbox at and spam till you kill it
This one took a long time to make, hope you find it useful :)
Thx for the advice
Thx even tho I'm a dragon user ik the counters
Thanks, this helped me a lot, I know how to counter the counter now.
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these:
Blizzard: Use cyborg V3
Dragon: Run into the air
Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
The reason for shark anchor and the cursed dual katanas ignoring dragons defense, is actually somewhat important to their kit. For the cursed dual katanas last move, slayer of goliath, is pretty straightforward. Dragon in this case is that goliath, and not to mention that it does negate their damage reduction but not completely. And for shark anchor, armor breaker does more damage to larger targets, and almost completely ignored defense and damage reduction.
Also reference to one piece
Cdk can ignore dragons defense? Better call David
@@SpandanDebnath-bo1mc oden's sword in op is cdk and oden scarred kaido so it makes sense that dragon would be vulnerable to cdk
@TheLatinCrow yes
This is true, but if the dragon user you're fighting is a shark race, then it's a tough one, since they would just press the v3 ability.
me personally, i use ttk for the x moves stun and range, if a dragon is on the ground or holding a move in the air, i can stun it with x and get close with portal, then spam all my moves.
another build that works somehow is diamond. the v and x stun, and the m1 is good mobility similar to portal. pair it with sanguine and a mobility/ stun sword like yama and it works decently.( with v4 preferably XD)(im pretty sure there a youtube video somewhere calling it the "dragonslayer" build)
( use diamond m1 and yama to get close, stun with soul guitar, use diamond v, x, then all the sanguine moves.( by then yama cooldown should be over. use yama z/x to stun, and continue spamming)
this are some good counters right here and this vid was really helpful man it's a surprise u don't have many subs u deserver more.
Eastern c's move is almost impossible to escape since u get stun and get 1k or 3k damage or even more,and has a great stun moves and this means u need to equip the west dragon to defeat the east
Id actually say west is good for killing east and just because of that people think its better than east in terms of pvp aswell but i feel that east is better than west in pvp for several reasons
It depends on the user to be honest
Hear me out Barrier c move
so underrated keep it going man
Another tip is that soul guitar z maks the dragon slower and unable to attack, any stun will for that matter. so using a stun build on a dragon (mainly sword), it is MUCH easier to kill.
Good tips ngl i use the portal trick but i think i should change to the blizz one
Another advice that is using buddha , buddha can jump high , have high defense so you can spam m1 and skills on the dragon i have defeated quite some dragon spammers with buddha
You need speed to even try to get close to the dragon user because the knock back from dragon is much 😢
U need v1 buddha for speed and cdk for its ability to get close to dragon and sanguine art for healing
@@KingstonArum-eo1ho mink v4
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these:
Blizzard: Use cyborg V3
Dragon: Run into the air
Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
I have another way of defeating a dragon user: Invite them to a vc and play thick of it 👍
as a dragon main i encountered many of these and people have tried this on me like the blizzard fruit and i countered it by just using the x move (the move still works if you dont hold it long enough) another method is to just summon a sea beast which stuns the person long enough for me to combo them
life saver am subbing rn
I recommend the magma fruit, I know it seems like it won't work but if you manage to get close and attack it, it does quite a bit of damage.
the dragon was using combat fighting style 5:03
Glad you noticed :)
@@sparky19991 that shows how much they rely on the fruit itself
@rulerin2 it wasn't a max level account, so it could just be that ONE alt where people use combat until the very end. That was my immediate thoughts anyway. Still, dragon spammers are very over reliant on dragon's transformation, so you're not wrong.
Thanks for the tips, really didn't need them but yea, i'll probably try to remember these tips for the next time i fight a dragon user. Normally i just spam them untill they die.
I sent this video to my friend and he said it was very helpfull, and he said it was an amazing video. Keep up the great work man.
Also there is some fun fact:Cursed dual kata X move ignore dragon's defense ENTIRELY which by that mean it will be very useful in combat
Pro tip: If your in second sea and using Portal remember to use Remote island combo and not Admin killer against a fully transformed west dragon as Dragon has 100% stun and knockback resistance as it can't be stunned or knocked back so best way is to get em stuck somewhere they can't move
East Dragon: Doghouse or raid room in second sea
West dragon: Remote island
Leopard also can stun but it works more on eastern
I would recommend using cdk for the portal build because CDK x ignores all defensive buffs
Subscribed, also the diamond fruit is the new best fruit for sword mains, it’s even better then portal and rumble by a lot
No way, Diamond has minimal combo starters/extenders or mobility.
@@sparky19991 lol you should really try diamond it has m1s which are great for mobility and are arguably better then portal m1s.
The X move combo starts and extends and the V move has to much range and ken breaks that it literally always hits and cancels moves, not to mention the free 25% defense buff for sword mains.
Try it
@@sparky19991 Diamond X move combo starts AND extends and the Diamond M1 is arguably BETTER then portal M1 for mobility.
Add a great free hit V move that ken breaks and 25% defense for free to your sword build and you have the best sword main fruit
Diamond’s m1 has endlag and is not instant(like Phoenix m1), Portal’s m1’s are better in every way is not the only mobility move. X move is impossible to hit if opponents are in the air, and V move does not justify the rest of the kit being too weak, especially against dragons. Meanwhile, Portal gives you instant TP, invincibility frames, and almost infinite combos.
@@sparky19991 he is just slow dont worry portals still on top
Warning too much text xd:
Since he gave tips on how to fight dragons, I bring you how to fight people who do what the video mentions.
1.- Against other dragons simply avoid the other dragon's C and attack it with all your movements (basically the one who spams the most wins)
2.- Against the portals when they use the x to avoid movement c, move constantly with the help of the f (around the map or in the air) when you locate it use the x and m1, if you can use the f as an attack and to Use c only if the portal has already spent its x.
3.- I recommend using the Gohl race since it lowers your skill waiting times and in the process steals some life, although the human or angel race are also good options and the cyborg race, well, I won't even tell you.
4.- against the dragonstorm only... call to god💀 (use the base form and pray to beat him)
5.- Practice the base form in cases where step 4 happens to you.
6.- If they make you a team, load the fury meter to the top or the closest and use v4 (if you managed to fill the fury bar, simply transform instantly once you activate the v4 race)
Good talk
Coming from someone who actually knows how to use dragon, I’ll explain how effective these will be:
The first method is good, but it can be very VERY easily avoided. It’s like trying to punch someone as hard as you possibly can in the middle of a fight. It’s unlikely to land.
The second method is 100% true.
The third method is also extremely easy to defend against if you know how to use dragon like myself. Your best bet is to either hope the dragon user doesn’t know how to use it to its fullest, or just run away which is what 90% of portal users do anyways.
Another tip if ur using portal always teleport to haunted castle and if the dragon gets in ur portal it will be stuck and if they wanna get out they have to untransform and meanwhile they do u can attack from far or when they untransform jus pack them
1st vid in a long time and it’s great.
Good info and editing!
You can use east to counter west dragon since east is strong when in close range and west have a bit disadvantages against close range
I tested West vs East many times, the West user always wins. West is faster, has longer range and moves are instant. East needs to stay in one place for X and C move and opponents have to be close to do damage. West has no close range disadvantage, its X and C move guarantees a hit if aimed at general direction and F move is so much easier to land.
Bro is an npc does he know that you can’t get in close range as east
W vid man, personally I think dragon needs a complete rebalancing as its current standing in the pvp meta is way to overpowered however,
I would also argue that the untransformed version is very underpowered when compared to fruits such as kitsune which causes this huge gap between transformed and untransformed.
This gap essentially means that almost every player will grind their dragon to transformation rather than use base form as their is little incentive to do so.
This is because untransformed dragon is extremely weak to anything in the air and lacks good combo potential. here are my suggestions to both nerf transformation and buff base form
untransformed Z-move: deals good damage but the beam itself has a very bad hitbox making it very difficult to hit air campers and portal users. To buff this they should increase the beams hitbox
Untransformed X-move: works as a combo extender however cant break ken while also moving very slow and throwing opponent away effectively being a worse godhuman-z. To buff this they should either increase the speed of the attack or make the move break ken.
Untransformed C-move: terrible against any opponent in the air on top of end lag making follow up attacks able to be avoided by flash steps. To buff this the spread of the attack should be decreased so it can be more effective against air based opponents or the end lag should be removed to make follow up attacks much easier.
untransformed F-move: Balanced
To Nerf the transformed version of dragon not only should the bar drain much faster but the attacks themselves should all have an increased cooldowns to reduce the spamming of the abilities.
Personally I think the damage reduction and output of the fruit should remain the same as altering either would make the fruit insanely weak to teamers, thanks to the huge hitbox but overall I think if these changes are made it would greatly balance the fruit as it definitely should remain strong, but no at is current level however, I believe simultaneously buffing the untransformed version will incentivise players to use that rather then spamming transformation and will overall, will make the fruit a bit more skill based rather than fighting dragon spam.
I hope in the future dragon can become a fruit similar to kitsune having a transformation that is strong but skilled players can easily overpower while also having an untransformed version that is still very effective in pvp when used with the correct build.
Let me know if you think I am on too something or not but thanks for reading.
Best build is diamond fox lamp and soul guitar bc they all have long tick moves so that dragon cant fight back
i recommend godhuman the most, use sanguine if you want heatwave beam to keep hitting you, godhuman has transportation moves, Soaring beast, Sixth Realm Gun, and Sixth Realm Gun and Soaring Beast can make the Heatwave Beam cancel due to insane damage, sanguine whatsoever only has 1 transportation move, and it's even barely making you move, its Bloodbane Drain.
Many people use Sanguine for the heal, I usually prefer GH
For anyone wondering if there's anything else you can use other than blizzard or portal, Leo is a good option. If you manage to get on then with Leo transformation, spamming all the move, untransforming to spam other moves, and then back to Leo can one shot a dragon if done right. It's pretty hard to do tho but better than most other fruits. Pretty much any fruit with stun on most if not all the moves are good. Moves that need to be held down for long arnt useful tho such as dough V. Most swords other than cdk are useless for fighting dragon unless you have portal to keep up and you're playing correctly. Acid rifle is a good gun to use for it's m1 range but that's about all. Fish is good race for tanking but it's slow and pretty bad ova, Mink is good to be faster in air and being able to run too a portal to go to different island, cyborg doesn't do bunch besides some extra DMG, ghoul is perfect for spamming at dragons while still helping you heal and be fast, human isn't the best for anything besides going crazy when you're low although it's v4% is really good if you get it build up. Angle v4 is good for things like blizzard F too kept them from attacking, and Draco only good for DMG when v4 and staying up in the sky. Thats about all ik from playing. I swap builds a lot and so I learn tips and tricks like this. Dont forget you don't have to fight a dragon again after losing. Take your lost and server hop.
Some guy with yeti got 3/3 by a fully transformed west dragon user in castle lmfaooo
As a Blizzard main...
I've hated the dragon rework because it was so overpowered, but all this time I was literally using the counter fruit?! Bro.
can rumble do the job?
i usally used it to run away from dragon users
Well done you earned a sub ❤
i struggle to fight dragons my build is gas godhuman ghoul v4 (base) hallow sytche and i use koucho i tend to be able to spar with it for a bit transformed i use poilet hood or dino hood but i just dont have the damage to put it down
As an western dragon main, i'd say thats fair.
we NEED a venom rework. REBELL AGAINST THE DRAGONS!!!🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
YEEE 🗣️🗣️🔥‼️🔥🔥
First Admin killer combos now Dragon killer combos
Portal is definitely the best pvp fruit
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these:
Blizzard: Use cyborg V3
Dragon: Run into the air
Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
as dragon user this video helpful
Literal sensei type shi bro. You have great content; crazy how you have less than 500 subs as of me typing this. You’re gonna blow up like crazy bro! And it’s all well-deserved too. Keep going, good luck my g
The devs had the chance to make flight moves and draco race appearances change on whether the person is using west or east variant and they didnt make it (Western for default is fine tho). Just a simple hybrid in chinese mythos or the reference of kaido in one piece will be neat and worth the efforts
1st way hardest but most effectivly except untransformation,Or some race skills that can cancel your skill such as Cybrog v3 damage Drago V3 ability,ghoul v4 Crow,Angel V4 and maybe mink v4(I don’t sure that mink V4 or Ghoul v4 crow will work or not and for Angel V4 if you don’t get hit by it you will able ti kill that dragon user,cybrog v3 may not hit if you out of it range so Drago v3 should be the easiest way to counter blizzard that counter Dragon’s full transformation)by the way blizzard f have short cooldown so it will have a change to beat dragon when get skill cancel if you not dead before the cooldown is ready and you can use blizzard v to make damage while waiting f mive is ready if you use ghoul V3 you’ll able to use F move faster so you’ll have more chance to use F move before dragon user spam skills on you.Second way(The easiest way) is just you have to be better skill but I don’t feel like enjoy Dragon even I have perm it just like bullying other not fighting players.The thrid way is the second hardest and you have to dodge dragon skill if you can do it your chance to beat dragon is high.
Note that cdk's X DOES negate its resistance, just not completely, but it still doesnt deal 60% less damage, its less than 60% less, so its better
And btw cdk does an absolutely amazing job at dealing a lot of damage to dragons, before they even realize it they will be almost dead
Yeahh, I think it was initially bugged but they fixed it in a patch. I’ll cut that part out.
Oden swords power
@sparky19991 yeah before that it was definetly bugged, I was dealing like 2k damage now it's double that lol
I'm not sure about shark anchor tho I haven't used it
Nice tips loved the vid
YES THIS IS PERFECT IVE BEEN USING PORTAL CDK AND GH TO COUNTER DRAGON SINCE IT WAS REWORKED (I dont post vids anymore so I didn't post it)
nah fr the simplest way to beat those freaks is to be a former memeber of the Cipher Pol 0, its easy to counter them, yet they're not even worth wasting time due to their lack of battle honor.
Great video
im 27m and this is how i encounter dragon : i use sound and cyborg, since i dont get draco race tho but cyborg and sound is suit for me . justtry survive their attack and getting your v4 on then run to place which has the most npc and if the dragon followed you this is your chance..... use sound c on them since npc act like player/teamer so high damage to dragon and i use dragon trident to keep the dragon stunted :>
I personally run base or hybrid with black belt and human race (tushita, dt, kab) but if you know how to use Eastern dragon, it's not bad, especially with the heavy aoe, and high damage close ranged moves, a lot of people don't use the f ability right to close distance, how to use it to deal damage to other dragons, or how to use it when land isn't around, if you release f early, it still does the damage (plus lei is good in transformation)
It's not bad at all, West dragon’s moves just don’t stun yourself in place and AoE is already big enough that even no skill can’t miss.
I'm a gun main thanks for the advice u just earned a sub (I'm a dragon storm main btw)
2:47 ah yes the old ice is super effective against dragon types pokemon logic coming in clutch frfr
Cyborg v3 :)
People trying to counter dragon ❌
People with dragon ✅
Thanks! Wont fall to these too
My trick if I’m getting chased by a dragon is go in haunted ship or a place where you enter through a small door and get tped somewhere and then I switch to yeti and hide behind the door and wait for them and spam on them 😈
Just take leopard and read his attack when he put C move u flash step out of the zone and u can push him in his off angles
The problem when U try to flash step is u might get stun locked or slowed down, plus the area hitbox of the C move from west is pretty big so js pray if the dragon's aim is bad
sanguine and blizzard with dragon trident and with the dragonstorm with ghoul or angel v4 is the only way u can survive dragon fruit if u dont have like yeti or gas this is if u dont use drag
Hey, will dragon trident work?
mammoth mode in my opinion is a great counter since u can js outdamage the dragon easily, yeti works too but is a lil worse
for blizzard just go in the sky and glide down if you’re using west but if you’re using east you’re cooked
As a Blizzard main, I have to try that.
Good luck, make sure you find a good opportunity though and don’t try it twice against one dragon
@@sparky19991 Yeah, thanks, noted that.
Thank you. Can you do for yeti next?
Nah I spent my Christmas money on Dragon.
@sparky19991 you can ask someone who has yet if you can use their account. That's what I do
5:34 YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IS MASSIVE? THE LOWWW TAPERRRRR FADEEE MEEEMEEE
Cant belive dragons are basicly treated as bosses at this point
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these:
Blizzard: Use cyborg V3
Dragon: run into the air
Portal: Don’t fight portals. They can run very fast and you can’t catch them. So it’s not even worth fighting them. When you see one, run into the air.
And last of all, have NO shame.
I fight portals most of the time with sand, and I win, it’s not very hard UNLESS they are running, world warping or using parallel escape most of the time.
As a dragon player I won’t tell you Method 1: blizzard player, dragon won’t stay on the ground so u are just useless Method 2: You can be a teammer to kill it and not by 1v1 and you can avoid the other dragon player to get his furry meter Method 3: as we can see you can’t even get close to dragon player so portal v is very useless and I can just wait you come out Method 3 part 2: as we can see if you use c to run out I’ll use pale scarf to see where do u go and just come to you
1. Blizzard trick works when Dragon is flying and is meant to be used once when Dragon is caught off guard
2. By that logic I can call in my entire crew of Dragons
3. I said Dragon running is impossible to catch, but spamming Portal V before he is low might give you a chance to kill it, even if dragon runs you technically win the fight. Portal C is instant, if a dragon flies to your island, what’s stopping you from using it again or returning to safe zone?
Also you can use portal X move when exiting domain, which gives you immortality
Here’s a tip to counter every one of these:
Blizzard: Use cyborg V3
Dragon: Run into the air
Portal: You can’t catch them so they aren’t worth fighting. If you see one, RUN.
@@ErasureWorld human v4
spirit can actually counter dragon pretty hard with a sword like foxlamp, also same with mammoth transformation WITH trex skull.
With enough skill difference, definitely. Just might not be the most optimized build.
@@sparky19991 spirits red bar spawners can be used on dragon, with ghoul v4 or v3 usage you can use spirits faster as well (all 9 on the dragon at the same time) only if the dragons on the ground though. but mammoth works pretty well too
@DuckyDuckling13 No existing dragon user stays on the ground lil bro
@pendragon.-. "lil bro" ok.
@pendragon.-. maybe trap the dragon in sea 2?
i tried most of them and i realized the only thing that's keeping high bounty players alive from the dragon is the bounty buff so i joined them
Every dragon I fight just runs cuz they made it nearly as fast as lights flight without anything. And they don’t go slower at low hp so they always run after going on 1hp. Most dragon users are trash even with transformation against portal cdk, also the blizzard counter was one of the best things I’ve seen in pvp.
We should pvp
I use, godhuman, portal, cdk, dragonstorm, max stats in defense, sword and gun, plus sahrk v4 and kitsune ribbon
As a dragon user, thanks i already know to counter tp and the ussop island thing
Old meta is back 😎 Also if u pvp with a dragon in SECOND SEA, if its western, use portal to tp to console island and then just deal damage. IF WESTERN tp to café and do the same
If me im just try bring them to small place maybe they will stuck.
Or use builds that can make lots of stunts to dragon by getting So Close to them quickly ,beware of their next move
My suggestion is when u see a full form dragon run away or stay in safe zone
I recommend using portal in second sea that way, when ur low u can to into either remote island, cafe, doghous. It will make transformed dragons stuck inside the buildings/mountain
i hate typing in mobile
i literally have zero grammar typing in mobile
Just do note that portal to remote island DOES NOT WORK on Eastern dragons
If the dragon uses lei and angel v4 it practically beats method 3 and 2 (the healing is actually insane and you get a 3k heal from angel v3 every 30 secs)
Nice video! Any tips for a pro spirit user like me 😎?
Thanks I like killing dragons with light cdk and sanguine/ghoul v4.
They should increase the cooldown time and make the transformation last like venom
another way to combo dragon wests: use buddha glitch which gives you big buddha ring but you are small (the hitbox is small jst like a normal character but to others you are just a buddha no changes so it'll confuse the drags and u can ez spam cdk and godhuman with mink v4)
Sounds interesting, I’ll try it out
@@sparky19991 the glitch is hard so use the blizzard istead those drag west spammers are so annoying! You have to save us!
Can cdk x deals a lot of damage on s transformed dragon user?
More than the usual 60% or so damage reduction
My problem is my mobile lag make me freeze whenever they use any transform move
The blizzard method scared me. But with the bug i found for the west dragon can escape that so easly
*most skilled dragon user
as a dragon user im thankful for u to make tips of how people can counter me. i will avoid doing those mistakes! high thanks
This video is mainly a guide to avoid mistakes against dragon users, I didn't explain any mistakes dragon users make?
@@sparky19991 i know but i am analyzing common dragon mistakes from video and i try to avoid them
Yeah, actually, this is video.is very helpful for dragon users, so thanks, man
Fighting a west dragon is like a whole f..king elden ring boss fight
that dragon is a legend for only having COMBAT at 4:55
how to defeat a dragon?
2 options.. run.. or leave
You can never outrun dragon unless use portal
@@maikeruo2841out running east isn’t that hard but west you’re cooked
@@maikeruo2841 uh wdym? there are bunch of portals in islands and the most u can get hit by is dragon z while running
@@corruptedsoul1127 Fruit
My man should I change dragon?
Can control rework defeat the dragon user?
It ain’t out bro
Ice users after kentrickers, beast spammers and now we have this
The dragons always get their transformation before PvP and if you haven’t seen videos on it already it melts ur hp entirely with massive aoe
1. Blizzard - ur probably not getting that close and even if you do, if you slip up and miss blizzard isn’t saving you
2. CDK and shark anchor lack mobility - perfect for large aoe dragon attacks
3. Sky camping - what dragon was bro fighting bro air camping does not save you 💀
1. Blizzard is a niche one-time trick
2. CDK has great mobility, and you’re using Portal anyway. Both CDK and Shark Anchor X moves do more damage than usual against beast fruit resistance.
3. The Dragon I was fighting is better than most I encountered, Dragon’s skill ceiling is lower than many think.
For me I use sanguine portal anchor and soul guitar the secret for me here is ghoul v4 or v3 which if you reach the dragon body then it's a guarantee kill you need to ise soul guitar z to keep stunning the dragon and with ghoul cd reduction it's impossible for the dragon to escape and since you get life steal as well you can't die
I allready counter all of them by using dragon east and they still defeated.
amazing video
Dragon Users are literally event bosses that you can try to kill for bounty
great, now il use this tip to learn from the mortals who try to kill me.
Tip: hunt dragon with V4 (preferably ghoul)
100%
The only running abuse dragons use is by going up the sky, aiming the dragon user's screen camera infront of the dragon in 3rd person, and Constantly presses the W key, because the W key provides them an unfair advantage that makes them dive down but Actually diving upwards while there camera is pointed infront of there fully transformed form, also this video could be effective, BUT its based on the dragon user youre fighting and how good they are using it, everytime i encounter one trying to kill me, it doesnt confront me that fast, it literally is floating above me without me knowing and fully charges up the Z move on me then dives down to go full mayhem on me
Also if you try to run away, always be aware the west dragon user's (fully transformed) C move, it's a projectile
When you have angel v4 sanguine art kitsune and dragon shark anchor killing a dragon is light work
Wait, u can just use blizzard to do that? I did the same with awk magma (somehow)