WTF is "Zone.js" and is it making your app slow?

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  • Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
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    Zone.js is included in every Angular application and it is a critical part of change detection, but it also leads to your application doing way more rendering work than it actually needs to.
    In this video, we explore what exactly Zone.js does, why we need it, how we can work around it, and why it might be becoming optional in the future.
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:27 Component Tree
    2:06 What does Zone.js do?
    2:59 Default Strategy
    4:25 OnPush Strategy
    8:16 Async Pipe
    10:10 RxAngular
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 89

  • @JoshuaMorony
    @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому +49

    To clear up my poor usage of the word "rendering" in the video (thanks to Asaad Saad for pointing this out in the comments), it should be noted that when change detection is performed on the component tree it does not need to "re-render" every single component to the DOM - in the video I am specifically referring to the fact that it needs to re-evaluate the template of every component (e.g. evaluate any function calls in the template).

    • @AndyFarrell008
      @AndyFarrell008 Рік тому +5

      It's worth mentioning too then that you should *never* use function calls in a template. It's not that hard to avoid.

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому +3

      @@AndyFarrell008 I think this is a good general rule to follow - although I have seen good arguments/use cases for some function calls in templates especially where they are memoized. But I think using this correctly/safely requires a solid understanding of what is going on behind the scenes, so in general it's probably just better to use pipes.

    • @tomasbird
      @tomasbird Рік тому +1

      I believe that perhaps instead of sniffing for CD by writing function in the template, you could have used the DoCheck lifecycle hook in this demonstration.

    • @mateboros1371
      @mateboros1371 Рік тому

      What do you think about RxAngular? Is it really a that much game changer in reactive angular as they say in their documentation? The basics looks very simple even for a person who dont know something about rxjs

    • @alisherataboyev958
      @alisherataboyev958 Рік тому

      Қяьлжғ

  • @michelvidailhet
    @michelvidailhet Рік тому +36

    I would love a video comparing change detection in Angular and in React.
    Your explanations are so easy to understand, even on this complicated subject !

  • @AnimusAgent
    @AnimusAgent Рік тому +19

    I'm gonna say that after this video, I actually learned how change detection works and I had lots of miss interpretations before, even tho I knew how to get the better performance out using onPush or rxAngular, as usual, didnt know how it actually worked, thanks for the video!

  • @miklosbecsei8128
    @miklosbecsei8128 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the video! Simple, yet thorough explanation. Looking forward to the RxAngular video. 🙂

  • @michelvidailhet
    @michelvidailhet Рік тому +9

    This is a video and channel I was waiting for for years. Someone who explains change detection and reactive dev SIMPLY. Can't wait to watch all of your videos !

  • @umarmuneer8370
    @umarmuneer8370 Рік тому

    the way you have simply explained stuff that took me years to learn is nothing short of exceptional

  • @Wraxe
    @Wraxe Рік тому +1

    Great explanation Joshua, your channel is a gold mine even for someone who has worked on angular for a few years.

  • @victory_lucky
    @victory_lucky Рік тому

    Well explained, I once tried onPush change detection but had no idea what was going on, this video clears it up.

  • @mateboros1371
    @mateboros1371 Рік тому

    This video was very informative. Severe knowledge. Thank you

  • @mihaioltean6008
    @mihaioltean6008 Рік тому

    Such a great explanation. Thank you!

  • @maximlyakhov967
    @maximlyakhov967 Рік тому

    Great! Will wait for RxAngular video!

  • @enc1ner
    @enc1ner 6 місяців тому

    Damn! This was explained extremely well!

  • @Ag3sd
    @Ag3sd Рік тому

    Thank you, I never thought the parents were also re rendering. This is the first time I am hearing about RxAgular need to take a look.

  • @bmiguelmf
    @bmiguelmf Рік тому

    Very neat mate, very neat indeed!

  • @joeyvico
    @joeyvico Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video!

  • @user-hd8dm5ur3i
    @user-hd8dm5ur3i Рік тому

    Interesting, like always!

  • @mariusb.1592
    @mariusb.1592 Рік тому

    Awesome explanation! Would love to see an example with Angular Signals and it's Impact on change detection. :D

  • @romaingillier6327
    @romaingillier6327 Рік тому

    Your videos are very interresting. I wish you displayed more the code.

  • @adiorthotos
    @adiorthotos Рік тому +13

    Vue's Proxy-based (native web api) change detection is so much less bloat and doesn't come with any of zone's gotcha's. I used to swear by Angular since v2-beta12 but seeing this after years in Vue I'm just left with "..why?".

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому

      I don't know anything about Vue's change detection so I can't really give any insightful comment here, but from Angular's side of things I would generally see the why of Zone.js as provided a developer experience where you don't need to worry about change detection or follow any specific methods for a change to be rendered - if something is changed then that change will (usually) just be rendered. This comes at a cost of course.

    • @adiorthotos
      @adiorthotos Рік тому +4

      ​@@JoshuaMorony yup, absolutely. Zone.js makes sense in the context of Angular. It's just that there are nowadays more modern and elegant ways to solve the problem of change detection and reactivity (which vue utilizes to replace two fundamental and gnarly topics of Angular: zone.js and rxjs) that negate the need for those "patches" in the first place.
      Thanks for another amazing video Joshua. I've been following. learning and getting inspired from you since my early ionic/angular times, at least 5-7 years ago. Keep up the great work, bud! 🍻

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому +1

      @@adiorthotos I think this is more or less the way Angular is heading as there has been a lot of talk of some new reactive primitive in Angular (that may or may not be RxJS related), which I assume will tie into this "optional Zone.js" goal on the roadmap (I am assuming optional in the sense that it is no longer needed, but kept for backward compatibility). And hey, I'll let comments on Zone.js slide but RxJS is the bomb lol

    • @hupett
      @hupett Рік тому

      @@adiorthotos This isn't really about the context of Angular or not. It could still make sense, if you want to implement change detection this way - which was a fully transparent, automatic way. This is purely a design decision they took so they can offer an api where the developers don't have to worry anything, variables are just reactive by default (which of course is rarely the case in real-world scenarios :D) - rxjs has also nothing to do with change detection itself. I changed my religion to Vue as well when the compositon api came out, transitioned from angular to vue as my nr.1 choice of frontend fw, but the proxy-based way of vue is nothing new or special, knockoutjs (and probably others as well) had the same thing in 2010. It just works differently, another kind of approach.
      If you are interested in this, there is a great talk with the core team here, change detection is also one of their main topic in this vid: ua-cam.com/video/IY-QOz4oLCE/v-deo.html

  • @rd_45
    @rd_45 11 місяців тому

    Thank Josh

  • @quocnamnguyen6244
    @quocnamnguyen6244 5 місяців тому +1

    9:50, Hi Joshua. Is there any way to avoid re-rendering another component without using rx-angular library?

  • @eastupharmony
    @eastupharmony Рік тому +2

    Great vid! So for onPush to work in the child component, all its ancestors must also implement onPush? And will onPush only work with @Input changes and events (so not simple data binding) ?

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому +5

      The opposite - onPush can work even if its ancestors use default, it will get to checking the onPush component and if CD shouldn't be triggered it will ignore the rest of that subtree. However, if you have a component using the default strategy that has ancestors that use OnPush then the component using the default strategy might never be checked because it will stop checking when it hits one of its ancestors. And yes - OnPush is only going to be triggered through an input reference change, an event Angular handles, or if its triggered manually.

  • @LeoGouveia
    @LeoGouveia 6 місяців тому

    @JoshuaMorony Joshua, eu estava brincando zonejs usando ngAfterViewChecked, e quando uso OnPush ele faz trigger os componentes irmãos do componente que originou a mudança. Vi no seu vídeo que vc usou um evento com . Sabe dizer a diferença?

  • @hansschenker
    @hansschenker Рік тому +1

    Zone helps you decide in which zone you are. Are you in the comfort zone or not?

  • @async_YT
    @async_YT 7 місяців тому

    Since we started migrating from angularjs to angular most of the problems we are facing is zonjs performance hits.

  • @sefatanam
    @sefatanam Рік тому

    indeed a very helpful video for me at least , thanks a lot

  • @bogarren96
    @bogarren96 10 місяців тому +1

    @JoshuaMorony
    Don't you want to make a video where you extend this video with Signals and change detection in Angular?
    In every video we just hear that Signals are better but we do not see why and how.

  • @muhammadkhairil5160
    @muhammadkhairil5160 Рік тому

    How you detect the html syntax inside the typescript file? I see inside the component template seem like the html syntax is detected. Mine only showing like string. Can I know extension you using 😬. Thank you

  • @donmorris4506
    @donmorris4506 Рік тому +3

    Great explanation.
    I’ve built quite a few angular based apps since the 1.0 release in late 2016 using the default change detection strategy. It’s been very rare that I’ve needed to worry about zone js performance. One of the few cases I recollect is a case where I had an html table that was being used like a spreadsheet to analyze amazon keyword performance for a seller’s products. Outside of scenarios like that, I’ve never seen a performance problem with zone js. This makes me question the value of putting a lot of effort in getting around zonejs and using on push as a default. I’m not sure why I should switch gears after so much success with the default change detection strategy. Sure, it’s more efficient but does it really provide any greater value to my clients? Clients usually value cost effectiveness and accuracy. If there isn’t a noticeable improvement to the user using on push, why bother?

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому

      If you're happy with using the default strategy then I agree, I think it generally isn't all that important. I do however have another video that explains what I like about OnPush - for me the performance improvement is just a nice side benefit, not the main reason I use it: ua-cam.com/video/tWy8zaWvkvk/v-deo.html

    • @richardtezbir7868
      @richardtezbir7868 Рік тому

      @@JoshuaMorony there are many simple projects, where you really do not need to care of zone.js, or any onChangeDetection strategy... on the other hand, when you want to create super complicated views, like editor or something, I would recommend the use of NgRx state management.

    • @MoMoadeli
      @MoMoadeli Рік тому

      In have never had an occasion where ChangeDetectStrategy.OnPush was disabled. I mandate it for all the engineers. 'large/complex' applications absolutely grind to a halt without. AngularJS ('v 1') with it digest loop was worse and great caution had to be taken for rendering and not paralyzing the app. Angular 2.x was a huge evolutionary step in optimization. And it still continues with Google trying to eliminate zone altogether.

  • @bessamlegrand
    @bessamlegrand Рік тому

    waw man years of trying to understand clearly this concepts , today is the revelation you are neo from the Matrix

  • @kushoyarou
    @kushoyarou Рік тому

    Great video, as always! But, please, update your browser! :D

  • @ytamb01
    @ytamb01 Рік тому

    Really enjoy your content. Quick question, what does (click)="({})" do/mean?

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому

      This was just a way for me to trigger an event binding (in order to cause CD), it doesn't do anything special - I could have just done something like (click)="someMethodThatDoesNothing()"

    • @ytamb01
      @ytamb01 Рік тому

      @@JoshuaMorony Thanks. But I'm wondering what ({}) means in JavaScript terms. Is it executing an empty object and what does that mean?

    • @lot.bajrami
      @lot.bajrami Рік тому +1

      @@ytamb01 its a void function which takes an empty object parameter. It does nothing.

    • @ytamb01
      @ytamb01 Рік тому

      @@lot.bajrami Thank you. I haven't seen that syntax before.

  • @justsomeguy8385
    @justsomeguy8385 Рік тому

    Could you please link to the pull request for the roadmap update?

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому

      Sure: github.com/angular/angular/pull/47910/files

  • @user-dc5ql3gn9o
    @user-dc5ql3gn9o 8 місяців тому

    thanks for clarification this part could you share the code with us thanks ?

  • @xucongzhan9151
    @xucongzhan9151 Рік тому +1

    Before jumping on the wagon like RxAngular or other library solutions, kindly check the docs and see if manually injecting the ChangeDetectorRef and calling methods such as detach/detectChanges/markForCheck solves the issue (but use them sparingly as manually triggering these methods can block the UI thread). In some cases, they work fine, and you have one fewer 3rd party dependency.

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому +1

      Personally, I don't actually think what I'm talking about in the video is much of an issue as long as you're aware of it. I could be wrong, but I doubt there are many situations where you won't get great performance just by using OnPush change detection as a general rule and letting Zone.js just do its thing. I think the potential issues are more likely in apps using the default change detection strategy and not realising their templates are being constantly re-evaluated.
      I think RxAngular is cool, but it doesn't strike me as a necessity (more like a nice to have/why not)

  • @p.s29
    @p.s29 Рік тому

    Great video change detection is one of the advance topic.
    I've read somewhere that if you're going to detect changes manually then use markforcheck.
    But I think that detectChanges is more performant.

  • @ericjhuneespa3381
    @ericjhuneespa3381 Рік тому

    rxlet and ngrxlet same ?

  • @pimredrum9375
    @pimredrum9375 Рік тому

    great

  • @mikitahimpel3283
    @mikitahimpel3283 Рік тому

    Don't you think that patching webapi to improve performance is not a good idea. It seems like a very dirty hack to me. And I had a case where zone.js wouldn't let me integrate the library because it was breaking it with its patches, and I had to shove this by putting library code into an .

  • @robertisaic2505
    @robertisaic2505 Рік тому

    Those from Angular are revising reactivity and in the new versions, this problem will be solved

  • @danielzaiser
    @danielzaiser Рік тому

    how does a parent component know that a child component triggered an event?

  • @nohox9444
    @nohox9444 4 місяці тому

    If I would use anything else than angular right now and come across this video I must be brain dead to switch to that framework 😂

  • @ibrahimmohammed3484
    @ibrahimmohammed3484 Рік тому

    Angular and Zone.js?!! that still a thing?!!!

  • @Fuzztooth
    @Fuzztooth Рік тому

    Don’t forget to update chrome!

  • @christophermantilla4265
    @christophermantilla4265 Рік тому

    subtittle please

  • @olmanmora21
    @olmanmora21 4 місяці тому

    If you have to rely on a 3rd party implementation to circumvent Angular core change detection implementation there's something really bad about the framework, specially if we are talking the heart of a SPA, almost the reason they exist.

  • @asaadsaad
    @asaadsaad Рік тому +3

    Not accurate, your console.log message is misleading, when pressing the button on AppComponent or any other button, all components are CHECKED for changes and not rerendered. Also since Angular uses monomorphic classes, change detection logic is optimized in the JS engine compiler after running for several times and marked as hot and actually runs faster.

    • @AnimusAgent
      @AnimusAgent Рік тому

      Commenting here since I'm pretty curious about this, lets see if Joshua confirms this behavior, as ive never heard off.

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому

      Definitely open to my understanding being flawed here, but not sure in what way it is misleading. In the example, if a tick() is triggered then every component in the tree will have its template evaluated/any functions called in the template are going to be executed whether anything has changed or not right?

    • @AnimusAgent
      @AnimusAgent Рік тому

      @@JoshuaMorony rerender means destroying and recreating? so onDestroy is called? or its just reevaluating the template and calling functions?

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому +4

      @@AnimusAgent No the entire app would not have to be re-rendered - is the main issue that I referred to this as "rendering work"? Poor choice of phrasing on my part perhaps

    • @MiguelFelipeCalo
      @MiguelFelipeCalo Рік тому

      Does this make the video moot then?

  • @Almighty_Flat_Earth
    @Almighty_Flat_Earth Рік тому +1

    I love ❤️ Angular.

  • @m1dway
    @m1dway Рік тому

    This crap has been plaguing angular since alpha release. Causing unnecessary slowness. Took us entire week to properly optimise this

  • @dinoscheidt
    @dinoscheidt Рік тому +2

    0:12 answer: you don‘t need angular 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @TayambaMwanza
      @TayambaMwanza Рік тому

      This diss is just lazy bro, if you're going to do it at least do it properly. "Why do we need zone.js" "You don't need angular" it doesn't make sense as a reply.
      I'm more disappointed in the attempt than the actual diss now.

    • @Almighty_Flat_Earth
      @Almighty_Flat_Earth Рік тому +4

      React js is a shame and blasphemy to JavaScript community. Governments should ban the use of this stupid library. Same functionalities can be achieved with Angular and Svelte with less frustration, so what's the point of using the stupid react js which makes web development unnecessarily complicated.? Those who use react are slaves.

    • @TayambaMwanza
      @TayambaMwanza Рік тому +1

      @@Almighty_Flat_Earth don't stoop to his level.

    • @JoshuaMorony
      @JoshuaMorony  Рік тому

      Why do you think people shouldn't use Angular?

  • @kavinkumar
    @kavinkumar Рік тому

    Way misleading title

  • @whoami5955
    @whoami5955 Рік тому

    Angular sucks