DCS World - F/A-18 - Case I Carrier Recovery Tutorial
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Although 5 years old this tutorial is still "gold". Professionally done, full of details.
Me before watching this: I got the game and F/A-18 just yesterday! Let's watch a tutorial!
Me after watching this video: Let's watch it 10 times more... but in slow motion and a notepad by my side....
That's DCS for you, it requires homework. I think I take in more notes and "lectures" of these aircraft than I did most of my college classes.
The beauty of the game. Its a real sim. Like Microsoft flight sim 2020(which I also have but have not touched since I got into dcs)
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Former military aviator here........
Jabbers, you'd have made an EXCELLENT IP.
Your ability to open mental bandwidth with humor is the stuff of professionals.
Thanks for this !
Former astronaut here..
"Aviator" doesn't mean anything haha, guy could be WSO on a super hornet, 9 of them to each pilot. Kind of a joke in this day and age.
justine turdois he would still have been sitting in a real military plane
Failed private pilot who lives out his aviation addiction through sims here... Great videos!
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Just to echo on what AEW said, "Back in my day" (1999-2004), we used 450' at the 90 as well, with VSI targets around the approach turn that varied a little more (part of what made a day approach turn so very very challenging). The only other area I noticed was that at the abeam position, you are usually targeting 600', on-speed, 0 VSI, and a specific TACAN distance from the boat. I don't remember you mentioning that last part, but you did mention a horizontal distance reference earlier in the pattern. I flew S-3's which forced us to fly a "Working man's pass" without all the displays and velocity vector (or coolness factor), so we didn't have a display line to touch the wingtip to. Plus, keep in mind that in real life (not sure if it will be simulated here or not), the ship does not always maintain the same course and often shifts heading to keep the wind over the deck (the crosswind limits are pretty small given the narrow landing area) - you won't necessarily know that and adjust your BRC in the cockpit. So it's a good idea to check your TACAN DME at the abeam position, because that will affect the angle of bank you select (which in turn will affect how much power you set in the initial turn, etc). In the S-3 it was 1.0 to 1.1 nm abeam. From what AEW says it sounds a little wider in the Hornet.
But the comments above are very minor nitpicks in what is otherwise a very impressive video. I'm just poking my nose into this community, and am blown away by the attention to detail and accuracy. You just don't see civilians referencing the NATOPS - that's crazy! It's so refreshing to have a flight sim not try to dumb down the complexity and difficulty just to make things more accessible. I think you did a great job capturing how much work and precision goes into a safe pass.
Because this seems so close to the real thing, a couple things to consider from someone who hasn't played the sim but did it in real life:
1. A good pass starts at the break / crosswind turn. Be consistently on the right numbers every time.
2. Consistency is key. Strive to hit the same numbers (airspeed/AOA, Angle of bank, altitude, distance abeam, etc) every time.
3. You will never be able to completely achieve #2 above. Recognize deviations, MAKE A CORRECTION towards capturing the next checkpoint, expect to re-correct once you capture that checkpoint. For example, if you increase your VSI due to being too high, remember to decrease your VSI back to where it should be once you're back on altitude, or you'll trade a high for a low.
4. Really understand what your checkpoints are. You should be monitoring your progress BEFORE you hit the abeam position so that you nail it at exactly 1.2 nm abeam (or whatever the right Hornet number is), 600', on-speed, reciprocal to carrier heading, wings level. Normally the turn off the abeam is delayed a certain number of seconds - make sure it's the same each time (assuming the same wind speed over the deck). You should have an exact altitude, VSI, and angle of bank target to hit at the 135, 90, 45, and start positions (these changed slightly with each position in the S-3, not sure what the Hornet numbers are).
5. Once you know what the checkpoints should be, the next step is recognizing deviations. Are you high/low? Tight/wide? Too much/too little AOB? All will require different corrections, but you can't make a proper correction if you don't recognize the deviation first.
6. Once you are consistently recognizing deviations, now comes a proper correction. Realize that every correction will have second and third order affects that need to be factored in. But in each case, try to correct to be on-profile at the next checkpoint or two if possible. High at the abeam? Try to correct to be on the right altitude at the 135 or 90. If you are wide at the abeam, you will need to have less angle of bank initially to avoid being in an undershooting position at the 90. But if you use less angle of bank, you will also need to carry less power during that part of the turn to avoid arriving high at the 90. Your turn radius will also be wider, putting you in a potentially "long in the groove" situation, so you may need to start your turn a little early. A lot of things to juggle, but if you can get back to profile, you can resort back to your normal numbers. Realize that most of us spend most of our time correcting deviations, however. The better you get, the sooner you will recognize deviations and the smaller your corrections will be.
7. Make larger, more aggressive corrections farther out, finer corrections in close. Making big plays in close is generally no bueno.
Jabbers, you did a great job here. You are correct in stating that doing this consistently requires a TON of practice. We started flying the ball on day one of jet training, thousands of landings before we ever saw the boat. Whether we were flying familiarization, formation, bombing, dogfighting, etc, we would always come back to the field and bounce 5-10 times to get more ball-flying practice in. It's truly shocking at first how hard this is - the first time I rolled out of my approach turn, I couldn't even see the ball (I was too high)! To see a centered ball crossing the ramp, you literally have to fly your head through a window only a foot or two wide. So don't feel bad if this kicks your ass at first. Try to nail the early parts of the landing pattern, and keep working on consistency and accuracy to the later, harder parts of the approach turn an landing. Work towards a good crosswind turn (or break if you are entering the pattern). Then try to hit a good abeam each time. Next work on hitting a good consistent 90. A good start is where the grading starts, and where the rubber meets the road - once you are getting good starts you are almost there. Remember to make a power adjustment as you roll wings level or you'll balloon. Flying the ball is what it is - I've never flown a simulator that accurately represents it, so I'll defer to others there. Meatball, lineup, angle of attack are the only things you should be looking at, and the faster you scan them the better. Flying the ball is almost a whole other conversation/video - there is so much going on there, so many ways you can deviate, so many possible corrections. If this sim includes rooster tails and burbles (which would be awesome), then the discussion gets even deeper based on high wind vs light wind days.
Now add night, bad weather, pitching decks, and aircraft emergencies, and you've got yourself a pretty good sim!
Sorry for the long comment - love talking about this stuff and you seem like the right group.
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Awesome stuff, appreciate you taking the time and adding your insight and IRL experience, pleasure to read! Eagle Dynamics has a lot to do before it's fully simulated to the extreme of pitching deck, bubble and rooster tails, but one day hopefully! This video was a labor of love for me and one of the most extensive things I've ever tried to understand in the sim world. When I was first approached by a navy friend to do this I thought, EZ no problemo... well, 4 weeks of 3-4 hours a night practicing my approaches, 3 more weeks of data gathering, script writing, draft after draft, peer reviewed by current navy pilots, resource gathering, filming, etc... then putting it all together which was another week or so... i was exhausted. But now the bar is set, I unfortunately judge all my future content based on this video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What do you mean "sorry about the long comment"? That comment was just as interesting and informative as the video... :)
@@Jabbers That's something I never think about when watching a video like this. When I watch, I'm thinking about how to apply the information and what I'm doing wrong or right. Never thought about what goes into making it. I guess that's evidence of a quality production!
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Thank you very much! You mentioned that 'Normally the turn off the abeam is delayed a certain number of seconds', what do you call for this stage?
I can't stress enough how difficult getting a pattern recovery right is. You've done an awesome job explaining all this. Going to make for an interesting first few weeks in multiplayer... :D
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My pep talk goes: OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD, DAMN IT.
10/10 - Would watch this instead of reading NATOPS again.
Outstanding video. Best carrier landing tutorial I have seen by far (and I've seen a lot). Just cannot wait for the 30th now :)
Someone give Jabbers a job remaking all the module tutorials =D
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This is one of the best tutorial I've ever seen. Awesome job Jabber, thanks alot 👍👍👍
Dude. This is the best video I've seen about carrier landings. I cannot thank you enough for this.!
I've watched many DCS tutorials...this was my first time watching one of yours and by far the best. So GOOD!
This is the best I've ever seen put together! Beautiful work!! I learned alot.
Nice work man! Love the entertaining quips interlaced in your instruction. That's exactly how I would do it!
your "holding pattern" shot just killed me. So cool to learn and laugh at the same time, thanks!
Excellently produced video! Clear and concise with pauses for explanation just when you need it. Thanks Jabbers. Really helpful stuff! I'm sure I'll be referencing this many times as I learn.
Incredible video thanks jabbers, amazing work
Nice flying, nice videoediting and fantastic tutoring, you know what it takes to be a good teacher. Best tutorial video for F18 case I recovery I have seen.
You earned my subscription with a detailed yet simple chronological tutorial on a complex topic very informative video keep up the good work more on DCS F18 please.
Thank you very much for making this great video. I've seen this video again and again.
Fun to see and valuable to learn. There are hundreds of goodies and tips canned in this spool.
Please keep up a excellent work for the following DCS Hornet sequels.
Best UA-cam tutorial video I have ever watched and I will be sharing this with all the DCS pilots I know. Thanks for the entertaining yet very informative video.
Thanks for putting this video together. You explained so much, now I have to watch it a few more times to get everything, then practice, practice, practice. You have been a great help since I re-discovered DCS.
Wow!! Just wow. Outstanding instructional video. So much detail. Thank you Jabbers.
Jabbers, I think every single owner of this module will have watched this many many times while learning the ropes. The quality of the instruction is so very good, but what’s just as good is also your editing. This must rank as one of the best instructional vids out there - for any game, let alone DCS. Well done!
dude, that was one of the best tutorials I have seen. I don't need it, cause, you know, ive done this forever ;), but you really did an excellent job !
BEST tutorial I've seen so far!! Amazing video! I've just bought the F/A 18 2 days ago and I can't wait to try carrier landings! Still learning the training tutorials atm :P
Jabbers, your delivery is spot on. Thank you for the awesome video!
What an absolutely brilliant detailed video. Thank you for your time and patience bro
Absolutely amazing flying. Very good instructional video which clearing took time and focus. The best! Many thanks Sir.
From constant "bolters" to 4/4 successful traps last night: your video was spot on. Thank you very much!
Absolutely amazing video in every respect! Very well done Jabbers! I bought my F/A 18-C about an hour ago. My goal is to make one carrier landing before I'm in the dirt. Thank you very much. I'm going to bookmark your video so I can watch it over and over again.
I am going to be rewatching this video a lot... thanks Jabbers!
This is by far the best carrier landing instructional video that I’ve watched and I have watched a hell of a lot of them.
That was an absolutely killer tutorial! Spent a lot of time last night doing airfield work and trying my hand at this and the in-game tutorial didn’t do half as good a job at explaining what’s supposed to happen. Wouldn’t mind having you as an IP. Keep it up.
This is AWESOME! I fly online with VBF-12 based on a WW2 Grumman F6F Hellcat. We came together in IL-2 1946. We're flouting around hoping for that next Pacific flight combat sim! So a few of us have wondered into the heavy grey matter factor of modern jets. We jumped on the Harrier and now the F-18 is here we can get some carrier hook action!
UA-cam is NOW the first go to for that how do I start this dam thing?!?!?! Your you tubes ARE AWESOME! I like the what you need to know to get something done! And I like the honesty. As Clint Eastwood used to say..." A man needs to know his limitations!" and the humour is great! UGH! HUMOR... I've lived in the US for a decade and still have to deal with the spelling!?! LOL
What I am trying to say is THANK YOUUUUuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
Great video Jabbers. Very informative and demonstrated with some seriously good flying. Thank you.
After spending years working on the flight deck as a flight deck director.i got a lot of experience watching these things land. This looked as professional as actual F18 pilots. Great tutorial, very informative. I'm chomping at the bit waiting for the release.
Amazing video. Love your humor.
I know that I will watch this hundred times before I master the case 1 approach.
Thank you!
A very generous and honest explanation of what goes on in the cockpit.... honestly, in other games/sims, i've not done much of this honest flying, but did manage to get the airplane on the deck, it's still hard, and i geuss i'm going to have to learn to stick to the rules a bit more to do it correctly. Thank you for the video, i'm pretty sure it helps ALOT.
Good mix of info and humor, liked it quite a bit !
You can be my wingman anytime! Great job mate, thanks for all the help getting on top of the Case !.
_'Bullshit, you can be mine!'_
Outstanding. Not sure how many hours of research and effort went into putting together a proper video like that, but I’m sure quite a bit. A well earned sub. Respect from the deathdealer.
As a student pilot, I can wholeheartedly say that the provided information was well spoken and displayed in easy to understand format, I might not be versed in the advanced proceedings of this but so far everything checks out.. My instructor always tells me remember the 4 Too's when landing... Too High Too Low Too fast too slow. Every pilot has to be thinking about these things in every aspect of landing, it doesn't even matter what type of aircraft you fly, the basics stay the same. Not to mention as an aspiring Naval Aviator this makes me very giddy so thank you for this little video :)
Lots of good carrier landing tutorials out there by great content makers, but imo, this one is the best. Well done.
So i've done maybe 40 or so carrier landings now and I actually thought I was pretty good but it turns out this whole time I haven't understood the ball correctly. This tutorial has given such great context that I can't wait to use. Wish I watched this sooner, thanks
Flew the module for 1st time today, loved you vid and explanations.
Love the video, great work and the snap in jokes were great. Thank you for uploading this.
You are a master. Incredibly helpful and fun at the same time. Great job!
I just found this. As someone else said below, I wish I had this type of teaching in the past, I sure would have learned more! Funny as hell kept me from dozing off,,, Info provided was outstanding! Thanks (Fakum)
God I love this game and your commentary. This video helped me get back to my FSX accel days in just a few hours. very well explained sir
Excellent from start to finish. Thank you!
Great job on explaining and great job on the landing, thanks a lot for helping us get better.
What a wonderfully authentic sim DCS have delivered. It's well above my head in every way but so are most things.
Thanks Jabbers!! I love this video. I have seen it many times over and I laugh my ass off every time.
Thanks for making this video (well produced!). It's helped a lot. I think I have watched it about 5 times now! Still missing things when I go attempt landings.
Some good info in here mate, thanks for taking the time to make this vid.
I didn't think I'd laugh on a tutorial as complicated as this. Awesome video!
You taught me a lot and I’m sure this will help in the future. Thank you!
Great video. informative and easy to understand. Good job keeping the focus on the cues.
Thank you so much for the video! Lots of great tips I'll incorporate into the next flight. Need a lot of practice.
That must be the best video on the subject out there. Nicely done.
- for an extra challenge, try use a 15 year old Logitech force 3D joystick with worn out sensors.
Wow! Maybe the best DCS tutorial ever!, So informative and shared experience. Thanks!
Nothing short of brilliance, great job on that vid!
Thanks for the really great tutorial, I'm taking your info on board and practicing on ground runways. Slowly getting used to flying 'on speed' and also practicing turns in landing config. Hoping you do more tutorials soon.
Outstanding video and instruction. Looking forward to looking at more of your content.
Hey Jabbers. Loved the video. Keep the awesome DCS content coming!
yes i been waited for your video so long
Even in 2022, this is the best video on Case I out there... and I've watched quite a few.
I have not tried a carrier landing since the Falcon 3.0 version of Hornet. I'm scared . Awesome video. I am going to watch this a few times before I try it. Thanks!
Well done man! Thanks to you (and a few other vids here) my recoveries are pretty legit (meaning I shouldn't encounter any air traffic problems in multiplayer). Your tutorial has been the most entertaining by far. The E Bracket section had me in tears. I can relate. My "in the groove" game is still a little sloppy (no pun intended...umm yes pun intended) but I still manage to stick it in there. Keep up the good work! Later homie.
Great stuff! Very informative, funny, perfectly explained. Very good job mate, thanks!
Solid, absolutely SOLID demonstration.
Best Case 1 landing tutorial ever. Great job and thanks.
Outstanding. Looking forward for more videos like this from you.
This really helped, Jabbers. Thank you for doing this.
Perfect
Don,t need any book or tutorial. This is the best video for case 1 learning
Great video! I can see how hard this is..you had me laughing...we all need that now.
Hey jabbers, I found you channel out not too long ago and I’ve really enjoyed your content and find it very useful, tomorrow morning I’ve got a doctors appointment and one my home I get to pick up a mint condition thrustmaster t16000n hotas for only $70!! I’m very excited to get to play dcs because I’ve been into aviation for almost a year now and I’ve only got to play MSFS
I know this is 637 years late, but Jabbers, this is an excellent tutorial. I am just now trying to learn how to reliably fly and recover. Thank You [SALUTE]
I'd like to brag just a bit (yeah I know it's bad form) about the fact that my "pre-approach" pep talk is almost word for word the same as yours. I have got it referenced in my own check-list as the "I usually suck at this" Comm Check.
Very nicely done, Jabbers! BZ My fleet a/c was the A-4E,F,&M and all is much the same once you get abeam. One thing I would add is the ijmportance of scan. As you pass thru the 90 and pick up the ball you should tune out all other input (other than Paddles - LSO - if there was one) and start a constant three point scan - check the meatball (the ball), your line up on the centerline of the landing area, and then your angle of attack (AOA). Keep checking these three indicators in that order over and over until you pass the lense. Meatball, line up, angle of attack - meatball, line up, AOA...over and over making infintesimal adjustments to keep each as exactly on as you can. Too bad DCS hasn't put an LSO on the platform to call your adjustments. Nuggets will find improving their passes will happen much more easily and quickly if they remember to SCAN!! Again, NICE JOB Jabbers...Nasty out.
This was really well done man, great job
Yoooo, great work on this one Jabbers! Lovin the new edits!
Hey nice vid Jabs, great humor with great knowledge... nice job!
Pretty nice video. A lot of good info with a very nice way to put it. Outstanding! Thank you very much for doing this.
Jabbers.. just subscribed. Thanks for putting this out. Nicely done.
Your videos seriously don’t stop getting better! Would love to fly with you one day soon on the 104th, DCS multiplayer is thriving at the moment. I believe the Persian Gulf map will become an absolute flagship for years to come. It feels right flying in that AO.
Thanks you! I’ve yet to really try that map! Glad people are liking it so much though, really looking forward to getting on it, especially in MP
Excellent! Great video! Lots of attention to detail!
Excellent vid! This helps a ton. Thanks Jabbers.
Veeery good Jabbers. As always, it's a pleasure so watch your videos. ;)
love the added humor! subbed
The hardest part for me was/is getting trimmed out after the 180 when i get into landing configuration. I kept pulling the stick which threw off my trim. God help you when you bolster bc they don't have the carrier and hornet flight models dialed in. Hornet bolters act like coming off the cat. F-18 nose stays anchored to the carrier with Massive nose rise once you go off the end.....just like the CAT.
I actually performed a decent landing the first time I attempted this. I followed Jabbers instruction as closely as possible. Been hit or miss since then. Basically I admit I got lucky the first time bc I was pulling the stick to help manipulate AOA....but all of Jabbers numbers were spot on for the breaks.
Amazing. I suck in getting into the pattern properly. This video is great! Thank You.
That intro was so good i had to watch it twice obviously
This is the BEST I have seen on YT soooooooofaaaaaaaaar!!! Thanks
Another really good video. Subscribed.
This is THE BEST case 1 landing tutorial on YT! This should be posted on the ED page! ;)
Very impressive video. Good work!
you're like the actual funniest DCS youtuber.
Really clear, really, really helpful. I refer to it quite a bit. Did I say just how really, really helpful this is? Thank you
Thank you for the video and the breakdown. I just picked up the carrier module and F-18 a few nights ago. First attempt rolled off the front deck, the next three crashed into the back. Got it on the fifth, sixth and seventh, crashed eight and nine again into the back of the carrier and nailed the tenth again after a touch and go-around. I'm happy with 4 out of 10 landings for the first night with both the carrier and first time flying the plane.
It was interesting to see in your video all the stuff I DID NOT do correctly when landing, which I should have been doing (setting stuff on the MFD). The F18 is one of the easier military jets to fly, so long time sim pilots should pick this up fairly easy it's just going to be some reading the manual to set everything up correctly, or just use the force like I did if you are comfortable using an AOA indicator. I'm usually sim bush flying on small landing strips and that experience seemed to help a lot with this kind of landing.
Anyone having problems, try and practice with one of the more modern (faster) bush planes like the Kodiak on small runways that require a sharp decent. For me this has been "pretty easy to do, but hard to do right". Again, thank you for the video; time to go read a 600 page manual. Guess I shouldn't complain too much, the A10c II manual is 900 pages.