The Null Knives Voodoo Pocketknife: The Full Nick Shabazz Review
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- Today, we'll take a look at a knife with a really neat and unique design, a solid action, an iffy price, and an annoying factory: the Null Knives Voodoo.
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"A lotta folks like a little extra thickness in the back" LOL you had me dying with that one Nick!
Matt Moreau, you beat me to this comment. Keep that sense of humor Nick!! Hilarious!
The way the thumbstud interacts with the cutout for the lock, when closed, is probably my favourite part of the design. I think we're gonna see a lot "pretty unique" thumbstuds in the near future
thank you for your work on all of your reviews Nick!
The OEM is not nearly hot enough to be this crazy. That's a great line
Always glad to see a knife review from Nick Shabazz . Sha bang 🎉. Have a great weekend 😊.
Great point about the competitors looking better at that price point. That is exactly the contrast I find myself using these days. 100% spot on!
Nicolás, right on the mark👌 I keep on enjoying and learning from your wonderful and honest reviews, something we see less and less. I do love the design in almost every sense, but that price 🤔 for that price there are many great things that have been in line in my "to get list". And absolutely agree on this BS about the secrecy of the OEM. Great job as always my friend.👏👍😎⚔️
Amazing how different individuals taste are. I think this is probably my PERSONAL favorite design of 2022. Wait was Shirogorov Stellar released in 2022. Would liked a standard flipper but, still my fav
GREAT REVIEW….and the caveat is well taken sir!
Awesome review Nick. The knife is really cool. The design grows on you the more you see it. I skipped the preorder to buy another knife. I regret missing out on this knife. It is a really cool knife
I was patient enough to wait for a mini version of the Doug Ritter MSK-1, hopefully I'm rewarded with a mini version of these too. Not just for legalities, but for looks and comfortability. 🤞🏼
Spot on Nick enjoyed video - straight to the point - Love the look but a lot of questions and price very questionable
Great information in this video and you may have sold me on my first Spyderco LW knife...though I'll have to admit I've been eyeing the AWT scales for the Para3 light 😁
Did I hear a subtle “greate” in there? Well done, sir.
Great review nick
Very lucky here, play with knives at my desk at work all too often. It's good for work related stress relief
One of my favorite designs this year. IDK if I can get behind the price, but I'm in love w/ everything else about it. The ever-creeping pricing across all market segments is getting a little out of hand imo.
Lol, price... Even tho I have to save and budget for that amount why do I have it so much easier swallowing $355.00 for a knife than I do $3.55 for a gallon of gas.
@@christolley4946 Right?! 😂 It's all relative, I suppose.
@@christolley4946 Also, where the hell are you finding gas for $3.55/gal???!! Lmao
@@superrad1659 northeast Tennessee but, actually $3.21 this morning : )
@@christolley4946 I hate you. LMAO JK! Im in AZ and get excited when/if it's under $5.00/gal! 😂😖
I do like the aesthetics. I am leaning on it.
Looks really cool 👍.
I might be too into pocket knives, but I can spot a Reate pretty easily. I don't even have to handle it. It's weird they want to hide it, especially considering how the community constantly praises them as the best Chinese manufacturer.
The suggestion from another comment is the OEM is WE, not Reate.
Ok right? They’ve announced with other similar knives.
@@megapleb NIck's suggestion was Reate, and just looking at the knife in this video gave me that impression too.
I'm leaning towards reate as well if you think about it reate only really began to emerge in 2019 and they got off with really bad start. Consider who their competing against it's mainly with WE as far as high end products. The difference is We is for the most par already pretty established I can't see the rational WE doing something like this. Reate on the other hand has more of a history of being magician like, just consider some of the strange projects they got behind I.E. " the district 9 series". But like many Chinese companies we need to understand that their motivations differ from competitors in the USA that is of course historically speaking, will that change? One can only hope. But china still needs lessons and ultimately come to understand somr of what the west considers as important when buying manufactured goods.
Very cool knife. Not my jam, but it's unique and well thought out so props to the designer.
A gREATE deal of suspicion, LOL
16:25 😂!
You’ll have a wait a year to get a pre-order; the Knull Raiden was a ugh LONGGGGGGG wait; finally just received it to Nick’s point.
Oh.. yeah.. that's a honey. I like the unusual sheepsfoot and that curvy design geometry-- reminiscent of the Rosie.
I don’t think a pre-order should ever be charged until the product ships. I’m not trying to fund production. A small deposit is acceptable.
I definitely like a little thickness in the back
Really fair take! What do you think some good competitors to this would be?
Great review, Nick! I am on the fence on this one. Just got the Raiden and absolutely love it. One of the best feeling knives in my collection. I like the larger size of Voodoo, choil area, and bolster-ish lock.. but the price and wait time might make me pass on this one. It felt like nearly a year for the Raiden. Really don't like waiting THAT long. I am excited to watch Null Knives grow though. They are producing some fantastic fresh feeling knives.
I'm taking the risk man😃 This (to me) is a bad MF'er!
@@cemetarygates2800 I'm not going to lie, I'm probably gonna attempt to snag one. The Raiden is such a great knife I imagine this one will be a rockstar too! Gonna have to be quick though. I think the Raiden sold out in like 5min
@@briankennedy3251 I'm gun'n for it man.
good luck!
“A lot of folks like a little extra thickness in the back”. Phrasing!
Going off the m390 font it is Rike.
Want one of these soooo bad!!!
"A lot of folks like a little thickness in the back"...LOL...Nick you are awesome.
I like thickness in da back and I cannot fib
You other brothers want 'em in yo' crib
I absolutely love the design, but on the fence because of the price and wait time. Will probably pick one up on the secondary market at or below the preorder price.
Good luck, Homie! This last drop sold out in under 2 minutes.. 🤣🙃
I did end up preordering. That said, I’ve seen a few pop up on the secondary.
He's been pretty open about who's making them. It's Reate Knives.
I agree the price is a little high, and the oem is a little strange but I still can’t wait for my scorpion edition voodoo 😅
Oh and also I wouldn’t be surprised it the oem was QSP and they didn’t want anyone to think damn the price is really high for a qsp 😂
It's alright, could've done without the thumb warts. And that choil doesn't leave much meat to sharpen away over time. I give it a solid M'eh.
I think the price is in line with a lot of knives made by this OEM, where the price is just be fine. The raiden was also a simplier knife, just being a normal framelock. As soon as you add inlays, the price goes up.
what oem are we assuming makes it? im guessing reate based on the high price
@@wholesome4028 I don't think Reate hides that they manufacture knives for other designers though
“Relatively unique” isn’t nearly the Sin that is “pretty decidedly not flat” ;-)…And I still think you’re the best reviewer on YT. I don’t think I could do what you do, Sooo…
Yeah Nick, I also appreciate a little more thickness in the back! 😂😂😂
This would be cool with an axis lock.
Recently I saw an unusual knife, and a very nice one time, you could show it if you manage to get it in your hands. Its name is Böker ME 109 Damast
so which OEM is it then? Several chinese OEMs make knives for other designers... QSP, Reate, Kizer, We, etc...
Edna is always calling HR 😂when I cut my apple
I think we all like "a little extra thickness in the back" 😉
Sir Mix-a-Lot certainly agrees.
looks like a less blocky vero, honestly doesn't impress me design wise
Definitely a Bestech 👌
Can you imagine a full-dress version of this....🤔
3:53 Yes. Regarding both knives and my wife.
Batman is alive. What's up nick.
I like a little extra thickness in the back...
I don’t see why you would think this would be the same price or cheaper than the Raiden. Everything about this knife requires more machining and grinding so the cost would obviously be higher.
Take off the harpoon to create a straight line to the wharnie tip and I's be interested.
This is one very sexy knife. One of the best looking knives of 2022....and im not sheepsfoot blade fan at all.
Who is the OEM? I’m a little turned off about the no refund thing. What’s the warranty? Is it void if I try to maintenance it? Not risking $400 without some more information
3 years lmtd warratany and NO returns on pre orders. Even still pre order sold out in 30 minutes including the $600 damasteel version
I had thought it was Reate OEMing
"A reptile dysfunction." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Weird looking” ? I humbly disagree. This is an AWESOME looking knife! Blade shape- AWESOME! Thumb studs- AWESOME! Cut out for reverse flick- AWESOME! I just wish it was cheaper.
I think the take on obscuring the OEM name may be slightly off the mark.
If I were an OEM consistently producing excellent quality and that fact was well known in the market, and if I were also producing some product under my own brand, I would want something in return for the use of my name in a new brand's marketing material.
Use of the OEM name is a bargaining chip when setting manufacturing prices. Null wanted to keep the end cost down as much as possible and so forgo optional use of the OEM name. It could have been a $399 knife and been advertised as "manufactured by X" and that would have meant something to some buyers in the community.
The designer opted for a cheaper msrp. Had they said it was Reate it would show its high value but some customers would rather have it a bit cheaper, hence more sales. Like jack wolf knives. No one wants to pay that Money without knowing who does it. But if they had said Reate, more/smart people would jump on it.
Overall its dumb because there is no reason not to say it in the end. But what you've said is why its done.
Looks awesome but for the price there are a lot other awesome options out there.
Phase name 3? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts I could look into
I have an opinel #9 and a brass Mercator, they seem to get the job done
Seems like the OEM secrecy was more about the pricing on the Raiden than this one.
it's an interesting design, but frankly for 355 dollars I'd much rather get the Rike Lamella. In fact, I plan on it once they come back in stock.
A greate deal of suspicion I see.
16:25 😁!
@3:53 Yeah, I like a little thiccness in the back too :) I have the acid washed with blue micarta and love it!
Fantastic, wicked looking knife. Overpriced though.
"A reptile dysfunction"? 🤣
Extra thiccness in the back +100%
Yeah... I hate to speculate but "no refunds" or a pre-order screams "living paycheck to paycheck and can't afford to give money back to people". Which also means there probably isn't a ton of money lying around for big QC issues.
People just recently started getting their Raidens and they're being sold at suspiciously high rates on the secondary. I was considering a pre-order on the voodoo since it's so unique, but if the secondary for the voodoo is anything like it is for the Raiden, I'd rather just wait for people to start selling them off.
So far, EMP EDC is the only maker, in my mind, that does pre-orders right. They actually give you a benefit other than "hur dur you get it first" - they give you a discount if you preorder.
Hey thanks for your comment! Just wanted to clarify a few things. I am not living paycheck to paycheck, I have a full time job 😅. The "no refunds" is common across the pre-order practice in the community so I don't think that's out of the ordinary since the funds are used directly to fund the production run. Much like the Raiden, that was made possible thanks to the good faith of the community. For major QC issues, if there are any I've purchased extra knives for that very reason and I'll do the same for the Voodoo.
The secondary is what it is. I can't control it. People sell for their unique situations and it's not an exception here. Yeagers, Evos, Apex, and Lex have done the same.
I try to price my products competitively within the market and not over inflate it. If you have any questions at feel, feel free to reach out 👊
As far as EMPEDC giving a discount if you preorder, the Nymble W is dropping today and it's the same price I paid for my preorder on July 30th, which I received on October 8th. So, no real benefit to preorder other than the fact that I got my W three or so weeks earlier than if I had waited on the drop. Not complaining, just sayin'...
@@nullknives Didn't mean to offend, though it was probably harsher than necessary. I've seen people burned by small batches because the maker essentially had just enough funds for the run and nothing more, and people were just stuck with whatever they got.
I don't think the price is entirely unreasonable for "that" OEM. "That" OEM is my favorite by a mile, so much so that I'm basically collecting every knife they make at this point. I'd gladly pay $365 if it's as good as everything else they produce.
For what it's worth, regardless of my original comment here, I fully anticipate picking one of these up. It'l probably just be on the secondary after everything settles down.
If you're doing anything right, you're making good knives that don't look like every single other knife being made today, so thanks for that.
@@thepracticalblade9013 no offense taken! Just wanted to clarify a few things. I completely understand that the wait time is less than ideal. I have purchased extra parts for the Raiden in case anyone has issues and plan to do the same for the Voodoo.
I think you'll throughly enjoy the Voodoo. Fit/finish, action, and deployment are excellent 🙌
@@nullknives if you’re using the preorder money to fund production, it’s basically a glorified Kickstarter. A non-refundable deposit would be much easier to swallow
Gorgeous knife, not worth $350 though.
Especially if I'm waiting for a year to use it.
Nick! Thank you very much for taking the time to check out the Voodoo. I always appreciate your insight and approach to your reviews.
The "reptile dysfunction" comment had me dying. Don't know if others caught that 😂
Anyways thanks again. If anyone has any questions I'm happy to answer them!
Hello! Seems like all variants are already sold out. Do you have plan to make larger batch?
@@kasutamata nothing has sold just yet. The pre-order opens on October 27th
How long approximately for delivery?
@@profesorEDC Production will take about 8 months
@@biggiebruce2428 thanks Biggie😁👍
It kinda jumps out at me. I have to agree that the price had me reaching for an anti-acid.
Love your videos. Cloak and Dagger Bullshit!
They hit a homerun like this and then release a Grace.......
And in 2 and 1/2 years you can get one.
For the NUMBER of videos that you've commented on the OEM debacle, and it still hasn't left the building, speaks volumes about this questionable business practice. :-(
Yep. Or that the folks doing it really, deeply don't care.
I simply will not pay that much for a pocket knife. But that's just me. It is a handsome piece though!
Mayo advert on a Shabazz vid…
Ereptile disfunction.......bahahahahaha
Appreciate the thoughts and look around Nick.
I've has a ragin boner for this one and the pre-order date has been spray painted on my living room wall (as a reminder)...😄for over a week now.
This Voodoo speaks to me! WE is the believed OEM
Me too! Which version are you going with? I’m having a heard time deciding!
They posted on Instagram that it’s Reate.
Oui loik thit knoif.
It just wouldn’t be a Shabazz video without an episode of over-salivation and swallowing.
Lost my attention at 350 to 400 for production overseas
I think the hyping of this knife amongst the UA-cam knife reviewers is a tad too aggressive. Really nothing new to see here.
It’s really over designed like Pontiac cars in the early 2000’s where every car had 2 spoilers and 10 hood scoops. If it was dialed back just a bit would of been a home run for me. Plus the pre order can suck I mean look at the new field duty from liong mah it’s almost 6 months past when it was suppose to be released.
Blade length a felony ? That's harsh.
Sometimes the truth hurts cupcake!
It depends on where you are and whether you're breaking an ordinance or law. It could be anything from confiscation and a fine to prison time. From what I can find, they generally won't charge you with anything serious unless you already have a record, are using it in a threatening way, or are trying to enhance the charges on another crime. I asked a cop friend of mine and he said that having a felony on your record is pretty life-changing, so to be sympathetic to that, neither he nor anyone he knows would bring those charges for carrying a knife if there was a legal lesser option like a warning or fine. Mileage may vary on that, of course.
@@cemetarygates2800 I am a grown up cup cake .I will be just fine.
Hey everybody, third comment here!
Reate makes it. Meaning the price is worth it because they have a better microstructure for m390 than any of the other brands from china. Maybe 1 or 2 other brand do it decent as they worked with kknives of Switzerland to make a better protocol, but those were never tested yet.
Winter knife co using m390 from bestech at 375+ is wayyyyy less value due to the protocol they use for m390 provides a lot LESS value due to its poor performance. So a rip off. Not to mention its basically a gimmick that is the same as an axis lock, so you pay a lot for so little value.
The designer chose to go with Reate but reduce the price by not disclosure to who manufacturer's it. Had they made a deal to say it was Reate it would have cost more. Really its all bull shataki.
I like that you don't like this design language and said so. I dislike the harpoon. But otherwise like it. I would prefer a different blade shape much like a shiro or CRK. But it works for my cutting tasks at work so I'd be okay with it. Only because its Reate is the reason I'd find it acceptable at over 300. Had it been bestech I'd say its a rip off even if it was $250- 300 using m390 even.
That's a good looking knife for sure but I've learned over the years that for me, those racy, unconventional or modernistic knife designs grow long in the tooth fairly quickly .
I've gotten to the point where no matter how attracted I am to a particular design, I know I'll grow board with it so I just don't buy the thing.
I stick to rather simple, classic or traditional designs , more practical designs, elegant designs and I find they stay in my collection and in use. No muss, no fuss, no scrambling to find a buyer for a knife I no longer want.
I'm glad there are these unique, unconventional and stylish designs out there but they just aren't for me.
Just give me a relatively simple, straight forward and comfortable handle in some nice looking material or another, a classic drop or clip point blade or even a wharny and slap some titanium or other metallic bolsters on and I'm all over it.
I'll use it and love it and I don't have anything taking up space that I don't use, even if it is really good looking.
But that's just me. To each his own I suppose.
Am I becoming an old fogey?
well, your comment certainly got long in the tooth... you do you boo - the pre order sold out in less than 20 minutes - so you may be in the minority with your opinion, and we all know about those - everyone has one and they all stink.
@@ttattx - you came here to comment on my comment?
And then tell me to "do me"?
Lol
Ok champ. I'd say the same to you. And more importantly don't be so insecure about your own tastes to need everyone else to agree with it. And most importantly, don't get all butthurt if they dont.
@@holdernewtshesrearin5471 wow. You have a lot to say huh. I DGAF what you think or say. It just seems you’ve got overly express yourself- and your continued banter just proves my point. I betcha have to respond to this. Gotta have the last word… ammi right “chump”?!
@@ttattx - oh yeah? You momma.
Hey everybody, first comment here!
Lost me at ‘Chinese made.’ Particularly considering news out of China in recent days. COME ON USA MAKERS - find somewhere else to have your knives made!
Wow that’s overpriced for a Chinese knife. No way I’m supporting that nonsense.
Dude what an absolute scam. Can you imagine buying a Chinese made knife for $400? Absurd. Assuming that's the nicest knife in the world, I would literally bet my life, my house, my dogs life and everything else I own that it doesn't even cost $40 to purchase from the manufacture in China. Most knives us geniuses are out here paying $100, $200 for that are made in China are costing the companies at most $5 per unit, and that's for really nice stuff. Just to be clear, there is nothing wrong with made in China, China makes everything and there's a reason everything is made in China. China has an extremely skilled labor force and an advanced industrial base, by far the largest in the world, at or near the leading edge of almost every technology and emerging. There's a reason everything is made in China, cuz they do it better for cheaper than anywhere else. You can order junk and they'll make you junk, you can order the highest end stuff and they'll make you the highest end stuff, dollar for dollar better than anyone else. Just wanted to get that out of the way. The issue here is the markups. I could have a batch of probably as little as 500 of these knives made identically as this own for probably diddly squat. I don't know about this knife, even it's all tricked out and has very high fit and finish chances are it wouldn't be more than $10 a unit, packaged and shipped. Like I said most knives selling for $100-$200 are sold from factories in China for no more than $2 a unit, packaged and shipped. That $200 Artisan Cutlery you just bought cost Artisan Cutlery less than $5 to procure. Sweet markup.
I really like the shape of this knife (not the style).this can be a really good kitchen knife because the handle is higher than the edge of the blade. if streamlined, probably could be an alternative to spydiechef.