Watching static and test patterns on a crappy b&w TV while listening to 80s electronic music from an AM radio is a truly *a e s t h e t i c* experience
I just watched this after about a year and a half since it was posted. I enjoyed both parts one and two very much as I currently have a Zenith restoration project under way. You have opened up my understanding of how the circuitry works. I hope that 1956 found a great home.... Shango, you are a master. Thank you for all of the time you put into making this video.
One of my first sets I ever had was a slightly later 14" version of that set. It was a trash pick when a neighbor bought a new set and just tossed it so I grabbed it. It still had a excellent bright sharp picture. I used it till I saved my berry picking money one summer and bought a used 69 23" chroma color set used in 74 for 115 bucks. It was the first color set we had and I put in my tiny bedroom. I later started rebuilding and selling used sets and Zenith was my favorite, if the crt was good they almost always showed a great picture, even better with the newer V high brightness phosphor tubes. It's a old video now but got my attention when I saw that set, thanks. I saved that set for years and I think it finally got donated when I finally moved out. I still have boxes of tube and some test equipment and parts.
Damn, I need to find a UK version of you. I've realised just how much I miss old TVs like this. It's amazing how subtle changes in technology and the world around us really makes a huge difference after a while. I was just as happy, likely happier, with my old Ferguson TX RGB 14" 80s television than with any of the HDTVs knocking about now. Our childhoods should be preserved! I want at least a room full of my childhood like this. I've got the games consoles, I just need me an old TV again. ;) I'm no tech expert but I really enjoy watching these. Great vid!
I have one of these gals in a closet upstairs. Was my Grandparents and then mine in the very late 70s - early 80s for a bedroom TV. Been many years since I fired her up, doubtful I ever will again. Interesting resurrection sir. Keep the great content coming.
Yes Shango, in my email to you from Monday night I made a mistake on Your RCA floor model it's the CTC 28 Chass You have 3 parts to & that one Set I done lots of repairs to & like i say I had one for 6 years in the 1980s. When I got my CTC 28 floor model TV the color was just great & when it started to get darker I found a brighter in the Set & the CRT was rejuvenated before I got it & it was done again after I had it but after 5 years the CRT was to dead. Today up here in my area there is none of them things around any more. I wish I could get one some how with a good CRT. I am in the same Boat you are in, I have My Apartment so full of the Electronics I love & I have no room to take on any thing more. I have to say from playing all of your videos You are the most smartest Man in this country. You fix things a little different But you are so much more smarter then any of the TV repair Men I have worked with over the years. And I have worked with lots of other TV repair People & Radio station engineers over the 1980s & 1990s. I find it increadable you can repair the flyback in old TVs after they start smoking & stuff. The TV repair men I worked with would just try & replace the flyback in them or just tell the owner is shot & beon repair. And You work on Cars & most of all the newer Cars with the securtity system in them new Cars. Boy I wish I could have a visit with you on the Phone. I wish i could meet you someday, I would book a flight to come out & see you & your TVs you have fixed up & got them to work & look brand new. You are so lucky to be in LA & fined things like that Conn Orgen & get free speakers & all the parts You could ever want. Up here in north east MN We never see the kind of stuff you have got from the curb & streets of LA. We have had some newer CTR TVs out side like 5 years ago for a while but with in a day or two someone will brake the CTR & the Trash man do not take that stuff up here. People get fines for trying to dispose a TV in the dumpster up north here. your lucky you can still toss that stuff by your loco trash pike up. Here We have to hull that stuff to the land fill. You get these nice astate sales to & all the great nice olld radios you get to buy & so cheep. We never get sales like that up here. Take care & I pray We can hook up. Sadly today every TV & Electronics shop has gone out of Business including Me with Jerry's VCR & TV service. again My email is Soundmaster404@gamil.com And my Phone Number is 218-290-8458. take care. Jerry
Loving the K-Surf! Listening to it here in the U.K via the net, had some very strange looks from my neighbours over the weekend blasting it from the workshop!
orange70383 That’s where “Shango066” was cranking up “Disco Saturday Night” on “K-Surf”. I listened to “Disco Saturday Night” every Saturday from 10 PM until 3 AM early Sunday morning during the wee hours playing disco from the good old Studio 54, and the days of WKTU’s “Disco 92” and WBS where Frankie Crocker was at the top of its game.
Good resurrection of the vertical deflection, with a bright, stable picture too. No obvious cloudiness or smearing that I could see - not bad considering how long it had been left out in the harsh desert conditions for so many years. It's a keeper. The 6AX4 horizontal damper - interesting that it was the second tube to fail while the set was running (arcing and flashing). A royal pain in the ass when it happened since you were still testing the TV at that point.
When it comes to vintage electronics fun, there are not many people into it like shango066 - the man who made 'hoagie-beimler' a word to describe any object without a proper name. I always find his videos enlightening.
I've always had really good luck with white ceramic sealed caps. I guess they have epoxy seal on the ends. Seems like they resist moisture. Can't remember the last time I found a bad one.
The Guitologist Yeah, contrary to what Shango reports, I have had my BEST luck with Cornell Dubliers, Elmencos, and Goodall ceramic tube caps. I know they are probably all paper inside, but the tubes seem to seal out moisture or something.
Agreed, however, in this case, the set was outside, so the caps likely got exposed to "the elements", and being outside can accelerate the damage to these caps. Doesn't happen in all cases, but I have seen it happen. Good to see you on this channel as well, Brad!
AHH!! yep. Giorgio Moroder... The Father of Disco. "From here to eternity" a hit and breakthrough synth. "Son of my father" (1971?) got to me as a kid. ;-) . To see that dead, deserted, molested beast live again, even for a while, is stunning to me; so little component replacement. Your walk-throughs are about the boss, IMHO. You INSPIRE US: what might work again!
That turned out better than I thought it would. You actually had a full screen image. Could it be that disco music filled you with enthusiasm and energy and made you more than determined to get it working better than you thought?
Gosh... That was one of the most entertaining vintage Video I've seen. I especially liked the coast to coast theme off point input, Thanks for the info on that too, I have to wonder how come Art Bell never got a copyright strike tho. Well, the way music is going these days, you my get a strike for 1khz tone, and squelches and squeals. Considering what that set has been through, to see it in 2018, damn. It's like my Mom always told. "never sell yuhself short." Followed by, "Never let nobody call you an ass eh Raul, yuh bigger than that. Yuh is ah race horse." Gosh I watching this again, thanks Shango.
Cletus Spuckler You’re right! The song was also used in “Turkish Superman” where they stole it, along with the ”James Bond” theme. As you can tell, ”Turkish Superman” was a horrendous adaptation of “Superman”, and it was made by Kunt Films.
I just got into restoring old TV's and managed to get one working. Its an RCA Victor 730TV1. I did a bunch of work to it including putting a new 5u4g low voltage tube in. I've noticed that if the TV is not warm and I power it on theres a hum (not from the speaker) for a second then its fine. Also the 5u4g has a white glow on the top plate during that hum. I want to make sure if this is normal. Maybe energy is generating before the tubes have a chance to heat up?
"Here We Have" Another Great Video and probably the best resurrection ever...Some comments...The picture tube looks like it's in sync with "Chase" by Giorgio Moroder 12:16 . In fact it would make a cool music video for that tune...And it looks like Fourth of July in June 14:55 lol .....
I wonder how well a 6339 will work as a damper. It's a little directly heated HV diode equivalent to the larger 3B29, rated 53mA at 16kV with a 6.3v heater. Of course it would have to be put in a box and clamped to a heatsink since it has an external anode.
I've never heard of "Coast to coast" (I'm in the UK) but I'd recognise Giorgio Moroder - Chase anywhere :) I think it was used in the film Midnight Express.
8.5 meg pot with a 2.5 meg stop. A 5 meg pot in series with a 2.2 meg ohm resistor might be close enough. A 10 meg pot would work, but be effective over about half it's range. You could put a 12 meg in parallel with the 10 meg pot and that would get real close, with the 2.2 meg in series. (not really a pot, but a reostat since only two leads are used.) When you were thumping on that damper tube, I was waiting for it to blow up.
Off topic maybe, but in the best way & probably more tasteful than listening to "The Archers" on BBC Radio 4 whilst checking out & re-capping a Bush VHF61 lol. No Cornell Dooblydoober caps in that though.
Nice job on this busted Zenith B&W TV set. And the song you're hearing at 11:55 is "The Chase" by Sergio Moroder. The song was featured in "Turkish Superman" which was a horrible adaptation of "Superman". In addition to this song, it also had the "James Bond" theme thrown in which were both stolen and put it in "Turkish Superman". Same as with "Turkish Star Wars" where the music was stolen from the "Indiana Jones" franchise along with the footage which was stolen from "Star Wars: A New Hope" where they put it in the movie.
Someone probably manually matched it. I also heard that as long as it's under 29 seconds you won't get copyrighted and if you talk over it you won't get copyrighted either.
Shipping is always a problem, it cost more to ship to Australia from the US than what I paid for my Hallicrafters S20r.. But an Advanced RF gen from England was quite cheap go figure! about same size and weight!!!
Watching static and test patterns on a crappy b&w TV while listening to 80s electronic music from an AM radio is a truly *a e s t h e t i c* experience
inferi312
It's actually Giorgio Moroder - Chase from 1978 ;-)
And TV slowly transform into a time machine!
Better than anything else on "TV" today.
Its good to have working music and some personality to a video
I'm blown away by this ancient Zenith surviving the harsh desert conditions!
@@IAmPaigeAT ORANGE MAN better then wacko socialist communist dictator baron queen hillary
@@cardboardboxification it was more of a pick your poison situation
it's amazing to think this TV has been sitting in the desert for 50 years and now we're watching a Beer commercial on it
Deserts are better at preserving things than a temperate climate I guess.
I just watched this after about a year and a half since it was posted. I enjoyed both parts one and two very much as I currently have a Zenith restoration project under way. You have opened up my understanding of how the circuitry works. I hope that 1956 found a great home.... Shango, you are a master. Thank you for all of the time you put into making this video.
I second that! this guy is fantastic.. really sucks he cant reply to comments though
Great job. Good picture bulb. Promising picture.
Awesome job mate. Loved the fireworks in the damper tube.
RODALCO2007 That’s why the damper tube was bad, but he had to replace it with another one, and it works fine for the most part.
One of my first sets I ever had was a slightly later 14" version of that set. It was a trash pick when a neighbor bought a new set and just tossed it so I grabbed it. It still had a excellent bright sharp picture. I used it till I saved my berry picking money one summer and bought a used 69 23" chroma color set used in 74 for 115 bucks. It was the first color set we had and I put in my tiny bedroom. I later started rebuilding and selling used sets and Zenith was my favorite, if the crt was good they almost always showed a great picture, even better with the newer V high brightness phosphor tubes. It's a old video now but got my attention when I saw that set, thanks. I saved that set for years and I think it finally got donated when I finally moved out. I still have boxes of tube and some test equipment and parts.
No matter what they say your damn good at what you do.
Damn, I need to find a UK version of you. I've realised just how much I miss old TVs like this. It's amazing how subtle changes in technology and the world around us really makes a huge difference after a while. I was just as happy, likely happier, with my old Ferguson TX RGB 14" 80s television than with any of the HDTVs knocking about now. Our childhoods should be preserved! I want at least a room full of my childhood like this. I've got the games consoles, I just need me an old TV again. ;) I'm no tech expert but I really enjoy watching these. Great vid!
This video definitely reminds me of the phrase "they don't make things like they used to".
The radio was playing "I Will Survive" at one point. Perhaps that song can be dedicated to the TV.
These are the only reality shows I'll watch.
I have one of these gals in a closet upstairs. Was my Grandparents and then mine in the very late 70s - early 80s for a bedroom TV. Been many years since I fired her up, doubtful I ever will again. Interesting resurrection sir. Keep the great content coming.
Yes Shango, in my email to you from Monday night I made a mistake on Your RCA floor model it's the CTC 28 Chass You have 3 parts to & that one Set I done lots of repairs to & like i say I had one for 6 years in the 1980s. When I got my CTC 28 floor model TV the color was just great & when it started to get darker I found a brighter in the Set & the CRT was rejuvenated before I got it & it was done again after I had it but after 5 years the CRT was to dead. Today up here in my area there is none of them things around any more. I wish I could get one some how with a good CRT. I am in the same Boat you are in, I have My Apartment so full of the Electronics I love & I have no room to take on any thing more. I have to say from playing all of your videos You are the most smartest Man in this country. You fix things a little different But you are so much more smarter then any of the TV repair Men I have worked with over the years. And I have worked with lots of other TV repair People & Radio station engineers over the 1980s & 1990s. I find it increadable you can repair the flyback in old TVs after they start smoking & stuff. The TV repair men I worked with would just try & replace the flyback in them or just tell the owner is shot & beon repair. And You work on Cars & most of all the newer Cars with the securtity system in them new Cars. Boy I wish I could have a visit with you on the Phone. I wish i could meet you someday, I would book a flight to come out & see you & your TVs you have fixed up & got them to work & look brand new. You are so lucky to be in LA & fined things like that Conn Orgen & get free speakers & all the parts You could ever want. Up here in north east MN We never see the kind of stuff you have got from the curb & streets of LA. We have had some newer CTR TVs out side like 5 years ago for a while but with in a day or two someone will brake the CTR & the Trash man do not take that stuff up here. People get fines for trying to dispose a TV in the dumpster up north here. your lucky you can still toss that stuff by your loco trash pike up. Here We have to hull that stuff to the land fill. You get these nice astate sales to & all the great nice olld radios you get to buy & so cheep. We never get sales like that up here. Take care & I pray We can hook up. Sadly today every TV & Electronics shop has gone out of Business including Me with Jerry's VCR & TV service. again My email is Soundmaster404@gamil.com And my Phone Number is 218-290-8458. take care. Jerry
Your videos are among the best on youtube, they are very enjoyable.
I listen to my music while I work, I'll listen to yours while you work. Entertaining and informative as usual
Thanks Shango066!
Loving the K-Surf! Listening to it here in the U.K via the net, had some very strange looks from my neighbours over the weekend blasting it from the workshop!
you are channeling your inner Art Bell..He loved electronics..and music.....
Man I remember back in middle school disco was hitting it's peak, seems like a long time ago.
orange70383 That’s where “Shango066” was cranking up “Disco Saturday Night” on “K-Surf”. I listened to “Disco Saturday Night” every Saturday from 10 PM until 3 AM early Sunday morning during the wee hours playing disco from the good old Studio 54, and the days of WKTU’s “Disco 92” and WBS where Frankie Crocker was at the top of its game.
Good resurrection of the vertical deflection, with a bright, stable picture too. No obvious cloudiness or smearing that I could see - not bad considering how long it had been left out in the harsh desert conditions for so many years. It's a keeper.
The 6AX4 horizontal damper - interesting that it was the second tube to fail while the set was running (arcing and flashing). A royal pain in the ass when it happened since you were still testing the TV at that point.
You're absolutely right, you can't say these videos aren't entertaining. That why I love this channel!!
When it comes to vintage electronics fun, there are not many people into it like shango066 - the man who made 'hoagie-beimler' a word to describe any object without a proper name. I always find his videos enlightening.
Love the video, Shango066, that tv set is very interesting to watch and get going!
I've always had really good luck with white ceramic sealed caps. I guess they have epoxy seal on the ends. Seems like they resist moisture. Can't remember the last time I found a bad one.
The Guitologist
Yeah, contrary to what Shango reports, I have had my BEST luck with Cornell Dubliers, Elmencos, and Goodall ceramic tube caps. I know they are probably all paper inside, but the tubes seem to seal out moisture or something.
I've had very bad luck with them being leaky, especially when used in coupling stages
ahh hah your watching this too... :-)
Agreed, however, in this case, the set was outside, so the caps likely got exposed to "the elements", and being outside can accelerate the damage to these caps. Doesn't happen in all cases, but I have seen it happen. Good to see you on this channel as well, Brad!
Incredible troubleshooting and funny comments. Thanks.
Jason Cruz here love the vintage TV your amazing
High resistance in a tube socket? On that set?!? Who would have ever thought that possible?
High resistance in ( A ) tube socket . Not all of them that is what's astounding
very interesting , amazing how you can bring something like that back from the dead
I liked the commercial for the beer proudly made with healthy "organic grains" as verus what, inorganic grains?
prob referring to gmo's, they are full of roundup and pesticides
@@jamescorvett Those are the flavour enhancers
I really liked the video, weird sound effect music and all. Your best yet, Shango. Was entertained.
The noise is annoying but some of the tracks are fine. Takes me back to the 80’s. Great video btw. 👍
AHH!! yep. Giorgio Moroder... The Father of Disco.
"From here to eternity" a hit and breakthrough synth.
"Son of my father" (1971?) got to me as a kid. ;-)
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To see that dead, deserted, molested beast live again, even for a while, is stunning to me; so little component replacement. Your walk-throughs are about the boss, IMHO.
You INSPIRE US: what might work again!
Well thats tonights entertainment sorted for me, thanks shango
That turned out better than I thought it would. You actually had a full screen image. Could it be that disco music filled you with enthusiasm and energy and made you more than determined to get it working better than you thought?
That's the radio you fixed with CFL light bulb capacitors! Good to see it is still going strong!
Gosh... That was one of the most entertaining vintage Video I've seen. I especially liked the coast to coast theme off point input,
Thanks for the info on that too, I have to wonder how come Art Bell never got a copyright strike tho.
Well, the way music is going these days, you my get a strike for 1khz tone, and squelches and squeals.
Considering what that set has been through, to see it in 2018, damn.
It's like my Mom always told. "never sell yuhself short."
Followed by, "Never let nobody call you an ass eh Raul, yuh bigger than that. Yuh is ah race horse." Gosh I watching this again, thanks Shango.
12:38 sick tune!
also thanks for your work!
13:02 Midnight Express theme , iv'e listened it on a vynile record on my 41 years old stereo this evening while cooking my dinner .
Cletus Spuckler You’re right! The song was also used in “Turkish Superman” where they stole it, along with the ”James Bond” theme. As you can tell, ”Turkish Superman” was a horrendous adaptation of “Superman”, and it was made by Kunt Films.
That T.V. Reminds me of the Sanford and Son T.V. Set that was used in the first couple of seasons of the show
I just got into restoring old TV's and managed to get one working. Its an RCA Victor 730TV1. I did a bunch of work to it including putting a new 5u4g low voltage tube in. I've noticed that if the TV is not warm and I power it on theres a hum (not from the speaker) for a second then its fine. Also the 5u4g has a white glow on the top plate during that hum. I want to make sure if this is normal. Maybe energy is generating before the tubes have a chance to heat up?
Mick from UK so want that TV. Amazing
"Here We Have" Another Great Video and probably the best resurrection ever...Some comments...The picture tube looks like it's in sync with "Chase" by Giorgio Moroder 12:16 . In fact it would make a cool music video for that tune...And it looks like Fourth of July in June 14:55 lol .....
Yep! This is from “Turkish Superman” as heard at 12:16. The worst Superman movie ever.
I wonder how well a 6339 will work as a damper. It's a little directly heated HV diode equivalent to the larger 3B29, rated 53mA at 16kV with a 6.3v heater. Of course it would have to be put in a box and clamped to a heatsink since it has an external anode.
I've never heard of "Coast to coast" (I'm in the UK) but I'd recognise Giorgio Moroder - Chase anywhere :) I think it was used in the film Midnight Express.
jedw
Yes it was !
I own the record an 33rpms 1/3 LP , its the theme of the Midnight Express moovie .
Excessive current killing the damper tubes?
I always knew you'd get it to work :) Even if the outcome is a foregone conclusion, it's fun to watch. Thanks for sharing your video
Explain to us why the AM picture modulation buzzes the FM modulated sound …
i had a 6ax4 do the same exact thing and symptom on my zenith. it was an amperex tube and it was NOS believe it or not.
Would wrapping foil around the wires help restore power back to the television?
I am fairly certain that this TV predates FCC Part 15 because it turns ordinary AM radio into screeching, whistling, ear-killing noise.
Greyhound is a very affordable way of shipping heavy objects.
8.5 meg pot with a 2.5 meg stop. A 5 meg pot in series with a 2.2 meg ohm resistor might be close enough. A 10 meg pot would work, but be effective over about half it's range. You could put a 12 meg in parallel with the 10 meg pot and that would get real close, with the 2.2 meg in series. (not really a pot, but a reostat since only two leads are used.)
When you were thumping on that damper tube, I was waiting for it to blow up.
In the day those v.int the resistance opened usually we added a resistance across them the caps ok.
never seen a tube ark , id say it is pretty entertaining , keep up these kinds of videos ^^
Awesome, coming along nicely
This tv model is featured in the weird al video “dare to be stupid”
Being from a different era as far as youtube goes I like there being some music in videos, have times changed.
9:20 ABBA is staging a comeback, doncha know! 😆
Content ID was one of the driving forces behind digitizing television.
that set's case would make grand retro style PC modding case :)
great 80s music...... makes the whole video better lols
that was a nice arcing tube. do tubes arc like that once in a while when they go bad ?
The vacuum tube arcing!!!
Cornell Dubilier still around after 113 years!
love your videos
@ 14: 57 - love it . . . LET THE SMOKE OUT !
Just love this videos
Off topic maybe, but in the best way & probably more tasteful than listening to "The Archers" on BBC Radio 4 whilst checking out & re-capping a Bush VHF61 lol. No Cornell Dooblydoober caps in that though.
What we have here, is Shango using static & disco to Punish the Algorithm! Damn funny, too. Good for you, Shango066
6AX4 heater-to-K arc? That spiral around the heater (gap spacing) gone south?
Put it on a Greyhound bus. Doesn't cost to much to ship terminal-to-terminal. Package that size will be about $70.
Can you explain more about those integrators? How did you know the 87.5 was two 47k resistors in series? Love your videos.
I could definitely use the crt if it’s really strong it’ll cost sooo much to ship it to CT
Giorgio Moroder.. I bet you like all that orchestra disco too..
It's Chase from the movie Midnight Express by Giorgio Moroder!
Apparently being baked in a desert is not a bad way preserve those Cornell Dublier caps
What happens when the ballgame stops during a play, the "Heidi Bowl" happens.
The content Id system detected songs in my Dewalt router noise during a CNC live stream.
14:54... Kinda reminds me of the movie "Shocker."
nice song by giorgio moroder perfect soundtrack for this
It’s from “Turkish Superman”.
Nice job on this busted Zenith B&W TV set. And the song you're hearing at 11:55 is "The Chase" by Sergio Moroder. The song was featured in "Turkish Superman" which was a horrible adaptation of "Superman". In addition to this song, it also had the "James Bond" theme thrown in which were both stolen and put it in "Turkish Superman". Same as with "Turkish Star Wars" where the music was stolen from the "Indiana Jones" franchise along with the footage which was stolen from "Star Wars: A New Hope" where they put it in the movie.
EH SHANGO, what about shipping it to me here in England UK, i bet that would be cheap right?
Dont ever stop making fix videos
I got a copyright on a distant AM station with loads of fading. It was barley discernible. It was not listenable at all, much like this content.
Someone probably manually matched it. I also heard that as long as it's under 29 seconds you won't get copyrighted and if you talk over it you won't get copyrighted either.
I laughed so hard at.....in this video we are going to listen to an Ems siren
Always pushing your disco Agenda Shango, causing public outrage! Haha
@t 19:00, I was going to ask if the audio was fried, but I see you just didn't have a speaker hooked up
best music ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simply amazing.
"I did my job good, didn't I?" Yes, you did.
If this set had a mind of his own it would refuse to picture Trump, since it has the ghost of Kennedy wandering in its circuits.
Good video. Thanks.
Shipping is always a problem, it cost more to ship to Australia from the US than what I paid for my Hallicrafters S20r.. But an Advanced RF gen from England was quite cheap go figure! about same size and weight!!!
What camera do you have?
I like the noise keep it loud shango066
I just picked up one of these for free but it had a brightener on it 😢
Hey Shangoo, were you in Desert Storm?
11:56 giorgio moroder-chase 1970's YEAAA. . .
I have the radio at 8:57 but it's green
almost an indestructible TV
I love the songs
Interesting.