About the price tag, it should be noted that $40 in 1989 when accounting for inflation is just short of $100 today - it was not exactly a cheap game back then either
I was lucky my best friend was always good at earning/saving money so he was often able to buy cool stuff. He had Hero Quest AND Battle Masters when we were kids. Great memories.
Hang on a second. NES games were $50-60 on release in the 80’s. It does not make sense to adjust for inflation in this case. So this is just crap. The game should have been $50 for the rerelease
@@ALK82 I’m sorry I was only using video games as an example. I can say that the analogy applies to most products. You can’t pick and choose when to apply an inflated conversion.
My wife just bought this for me for Christmas. The only present that timewarped me back to my childhood and brought tears to my eyes! Now I can bring the same joy to my 9 year old son
Nice! I got it for my kids this Christmas as well and we played our first trial a few hours ago. They loved it. I haven't played it since 93 and it was just as fun as I remembered. Enjoy!
While is was in the Marine reserves back in mid 90’s I had brought this game brought it with me while on 2 week training. This game was really popular and people were playing long hours after duty. It really helped pass the time. 😊
I had this. I have this. I still have the character sheets and the new magic spells and custom races I invented to play this. This was MY first d&d game. 1994 was a good year. Got my 1st gen gameboy too that year
Came with tetris and i got me a copy of legend of zelda links awakening. I also got a handyboy. The screen magnifier with wing powered speakers and mini arcade control addons. It was the absolute bomb for a 14 yo kid at the time. Links awakening is the best game up to the original resident evil on playstation. Hero quest is a table top equivalent of this before that came out.
It was a HasbroPlus Kickstarter that raked in almost 4 million dollars. It has 2 exclusive figures, but they have already released the 2 expansions and will be releasing more expansions in the future.
It has a lot more than just two exclusive figures. The Mythic tier came with an additional 3 quest books, a new Dragon miniature, alternate male and female versions of the heroes, over a dozen alternate monsters sculpts, an extra set of dice...etc.
I'd say most do. But hey, it IS awesome the brought it back. It was nigh imposssible to get the game before the re-release. I'm pretty sure, this will once more the starting point for many adventureres.
@@HerrHoppenstedtnah, as companies go broke, and as investors want more and more gains, corpos will continue to provide content via reprints indefinitely.
Captain, this brings back some very fond memories. A friend of mine (who I still play DnD with) received this game for Christmas in ‘90. We played the heck out of it and used the minis as pieces for regular DnD play. To this day we still say “checking for traps” and the Dread (Chaos) Mage is the quintessential BBEG figurine. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I’ll be sharing this one with my group for maximum nostalgia.
I had the original Hero Quest as a kid! I never really played the game much, but I used the figures and furniture for all sorts of stuff, from playing out my own little adventures, to decorating my D&D adventures. We moved a lot as a kid, and that cardboard box got beat all to hell. I think it lasted 15 years? Of constant moving, being dragged to friends' houses, going to my Grandma's for vacation, etc. I still have a few of the figures, but most of it is gone. I'm really tempted to buy the new one, even though I still probably won't play it much as intended.
It's cool that the ink on the dice wont wear the way the old ones did, but there's something more pleasing about wooden dice to me. It's not a deal breaker by any means, just a preference.
Nice comparison video. I would offer some constructive criticism, if you don’t mind. I’m someone who is unfamiliar with both versions of the game, so when you compared minis/cards side-by-side, I couldn’t always tell which was which. Perhaps you could always put the one version on the same side to avoid confusion. Just a thought. Keep making videos!
This was my favorite game of all time! I remember being inspired to read the entire Lord of The Rings books! I wanted to know more about fantasy and the settings! ♥
this game was my child hood :') i remember the day my brother bought it from an opshop and it had missing pieces so we took pieces from other board games and even made custom maps ill never forget using the orc slayer in one of the last quests against a wave of orcs while my friend was taking on the last boss simpler times i miss them.
A buddy of mine bought the original back in the day , we played the heck outta it, even bought the expansions. Loved this game, as well the boardgame, DRAGONSTRIKE. Great video, Great memories, thank you 👍
This was my childhood.. I have 3 copies of the game. My original still from 1989 , A 1990 euro version...and another almost brand new copy from 1990... Now im going to order the 2021 version.
1989>2021 ; still glad that its been remade for another generation regardless , such a wonderful game ; also everyone deserves to know 'the best thing about heroquest' ; honestly impressed by the 2021 version quality
Man, I had the original. My uncle got it for me as a Christmas gift and he was so disorganised he wrapped it in newspaper. I remember the cheesy TV commercial, I'd say I got it in '89-90.
I remember getting it the year it came out for my 10 year old birthday and couldn’t wait to play and my brother, sister, mom, and dad selected their characters and my dad threw a fit because he didn’t want to be the “wimpy elf who will instantly get killed” he held strong and refused to play until my brother gave up the barbarian. My father wasn’t a board game player and I can still remember it. I loved this game and currently I’m playing Oathsworn which feels like the pinnacle of the game type evolution
I have 2 copies of the Original mine which i painted my mini's and played it to death and my best mates untouched almost brand new set he gave to me. This brings back so many memories, i also have Dark World still in the box. :)
This is both nostalgic and depressing; I had the original game and all expansions that were, long ago, borrowed and never returned. It has been some decades and I cannot even remember who borrowed them... sad times! 😒 I love that there has been a remake so that it is still available for younger generations to enjoy, although the Chaos Warrior was always my favorite figure. 🙄
Oh mawje not homaje :P. I love this type of content man. Truly, thanks for the effort people like you keep me coming to youtube despite what a garbage pit it's become over the years
I remember the original wooden dice being doubleshot with differently colored wood, so no wearing off of the ink. But perhaps my European version was different to the American one in this regard.
Hero Quest was a great introduction game to RPGs and Dungeon Crawling. It gave young kids in the 1990s a chance to explore the fantasy realm of Warhammer or D&D and Tolkens Middle Earth. Who could forget naming their Barbarian either Connan or Barbie? Or rollong poorly wiy the insufferable wooden combat dices (skulls when saving and sheilds when attacking) Looking back it was a visually great looking game but also had poor game play.
OMG I had the old one when I was a kid! I had also found and been playing D&D at the same time. I eventually got into boards and minis thanks to Hero Quest.
I always remember this game. My cousins got it when we were kids and we never understood how to play it. I, at least, never got into RPGs so I had no experience nor will to get into anything like that.
I loved Hero Quest as a kid. Battle Masters too! They were sold at a yard sale at some point, and then, when I became a young adult I eventually rebought both games on Ebay. This new release looks pretty neat...I guess they've changed "Chaos" to "Dread" and the Fimirs to the Deep One things due to licensing (Chaos and Fimir are both Games Workshop things) - but I liked the cool Games Workshop flavor of the old stuff. I remember growing up and then as a middle schooler discovering Warhammer, and then seeing the Warhammer fantasy stuff and realizing Hero Quest was connected - that was really cool!
Fimir are a Celtic Myth thing. iirc, they're pretty rapey, which is why GW were never too keen to push them - and may also be why they were sidelined for this one.
I had Battle Masters as well! That game was great. Its probably somewhere in my dads attic actually, Hero Quest and that was definitely a gateway into warhammer for me
Oh man, had this as a boy! Saw that a new „version“ is out. Came across this great video and am glad to learn its a re-release rather than a new version.
Hello and thank you for this video. I still have my old box. Its condition is impeccable, for its venerable age (1989). She will be enough for me. That being said, I suppose that this reissue also serves to calm the price inflation of the first edition, which has become almost unobtainable here in Europe. The complete range in "relatively good condition" sold for nearly €700. While waiting for new videos, I wish you good games and dice 20 per thousand!
I have the original and the new (obviously). I never got any of the other expansions (the Ogre expansion for example), so my hope is a lot of the really obscure releases (and ridiculous on ebay to buy) will get new life.
I prefer the old version. There is something just too "cartoony" about the new ones. I also have some umbridge about the size difference... I felt like it was so that the new expansions are not compatible with the old board - meaning you HAVE to buy the new board as well.
my friend and i couldnt figure it out. it was just too complicated but we may have been too young. i regret not having someone to show us how it worked or taking more time to try and understand it. we were too used to normal roll and move games.
Best thing is when you own the old and the new version you at least can mix and match the minatures. Double the Heroes and the Enemies, double the fun!
I was just a convention where someone brought a near perfect complete 89 release for sale, probably could have gotten cheaper online but after shipping and taxes if any, would have cost the same. Regardless it was a timed sale event and others were eyeing it up, I eventually just went for it since I haven't seen the physic89 version in 30 years when I was a kid and ruined my brother's copy and the feels of seeing that old artwork. ❤❤❤❤ 😢
It is a lovely comparison. One constructive criticism: when making a comparison between two games, keep the positioning the same for all the screenshots (i.e. new game on the left/top, old game on the right/bottom). This avoids to the viewer eyes to have to wander around and have to identify what is what. For the rest, very well done
Was Chaos magic in the original a revision? I still have my original UK edition and those spells are not part of it. I had the Kellars keep expansion too but no reference to them I'm really interested in getting the new edition just for the bigger board and to get friends and family to try it
I have 4 of the original sets of this & every expansion (2 sets & additional duplicate expansions were from a buddy who gave them to me). I used to have even more, but sold/gave away a bunch years ago. Why I had so many? Toys 'R Us put them on clearance for $10 per set at one point in the early 90s & I bought 10(!!) of them purely for the minis as I wanted a Fimir army in Warhammer. The prices on the Barbarian & Elf Quest packs have gotten completely ridiculous!
So , do you wish to sell anything/sets at a fair price or trade? Not seeing you on BGG. HQ(new) can fairly be found at about $100, do you want to sell any of those expanded versions? Regards
Gamestop is/was doing a sale this year. Buy 2 get 1 free. Hero quest was on the sale, so I picked up 3 copies (for gifts to various households). Total price per copy came to $66. Not a bad sale for such a treasure.
I have the original in pretty good condition, and have made homemade replicas of all the old expansions. Now I need to find some good scans of the two new heroes and their cards and convert them to match the old school game
This was totally fun to see again. Yes, I had this one growing up and yes I played as much as I could with friends. But, it didn't last and I put it on the shelf when I learned about BBS's and "on-line" ANSI games like Tradewars 2002 and other ANSI puzzle games like ZZT. Since I left it on a shelf at my Mom's house I forgot all about it until now. I'm back in the same house but where is my game? It was on a shelf in the garage and it survived in near perfect condition. I've been playing table top games with friends and their kids for the past few years. Guess the next game i'm going to suggest?
I have a copy of the original, plus some of the stuff from my brothers he also had the expansions but some of his stuff is missing, so I have like 1 & a half copies + some of the expansions stuff. We never had any of the UK only stuff. Also there was a game called Advanced HeroQuest (My brother had that as well, but all that's left of it is the book and some room tiles, everything else is missing)
the app is great and being compatible with the original is great. Once you open the box throw in the trash the bard and the druid you are ready to go :D
Agreed. Not a fan of those new characters, they are all poorly thought out and seem out of place. Orcs are evil monsters, not musicians. The warlock's game mechanics are broken, and a plant-controlling druid does not fit into the HeroQuest environment of an enclosed dungeon labyrinth.
I could only dream of a reedition of Legend of Zagore, using an app or something like that, or just better robust electronics for Zagore. That game had cool exploration (tho too many pieces), cool figurines and a decent amount of backstabbing between players.
I got this for Christmas in 1992. We had the UK version in Australia. I bought all 3 expansions (Witch King, Kellar's Keep, Against The Ogre Horde) with Witch King and Keep priced at $20-30au (one I bought on special) and Ogre Hoard about $40au. The new price converted to $au will be well north of $150au and the expansions close to $50au but I'd have to see how much local stores sell for or if I am forced to import it. Yeah, it costs more but like many nostalgia toys the price is hiked up as the real target is nostalgic adults with cash to burn. Still, it is cheaper than games like Magic: The Gathering and Warhammer 40k. Seems comparable to starting packs for Battletech currently and you get a lot more game for your money.
Here in the US, its about $110 for the main game and $30 for the witch king and Kellar's keep, and $49 for against the Ogre Horde and Magic Mirrior. To my mind, these aren't bad prices, given the cost of the originals in the 90s
@@captcorajus I looked up local pricing and it is all around $200au for the main game (give or take $10-20) and the expansions are all priced around $100au. This isn't really unexpected and it translates to more than $US value in $au but we have to import just about everything fun like this so shipping adds a lot even when sold locally. Back in the 90s you could buy Hero Quest stuff in mainstream toy stores in Australia so it made a difference. Now it is all hobby and gaming stores.
Great review! I have the original Heroquest and a guy in my local AD&D group has the new one. While aesthetically I do like a few of the old minis better (as you say, the zombie with cleaver is cool and I prefer the Chaos motif) overall the new version is objectively of higher quality. I dig the art style of the old version but the new one is much more polished. The old cardboard and plastic furniture and doors got the job done but the all-plastic ones are much nicer. That said I'm not sure I'd pay the asking price especially since I have the original. It's not a terrible value by any means- expensive though it is you do get a lot for your money. I am a cheapskate though!😂 FWIW, I got mine for $10 on clearance at Kaybee Toys in the mall in the early 90s.😎
Ah yes, Kaybee clearances! I got a ton of game stuff from Kaybee back in the day. I remember getting the Kingdom of Karaomeikos and the Glantri boxed sets for 5.00 a piece back in the day.
I had the original as a kid. We got it from a thrift store for $0.99 in the mid 90s. Had no idea what a steal that was til I went to re-buy it as an adult.
I got this game when I was in high school. I had played dungeons and dragons and similar games before getting this. I always felt like it was dungeons and dragons for people who didn’t have 6 to 8 hours to play a board game. I used to play with my brother and my cousin and we would squeeze in 3 or 4 solid fun games inside of two hours.
4:00 Ironic that it's Hasbro that now has to make changes to avoid lawsuits, since it was the predecessor MB that sued Sierra On-Line in 1989, forcing them to change the name of their PC action-adventure game Hero's Quest to the first entry in the now well-known Quest For Glory franchise.
I refined my barbarian first day I had it back in day ... sharpened his sword with a craft knife. Went to far made a dagger out of sword and buried knife in my 12 year old finger...off to hospital. I bled for this game just ordered the new un. Play with my 12 year old no refining . .great review, feel like kid at Christmas waiting for it now got a sub
The one problem is that the dread warrior has a shield. thematically for an evil warrior this seems wrong. The original chaos warriors with axes and balled fists fit the idea a bit better
As regards the fimir,, I know that the new version had to replace figure for copyright purposes, but choosing a wholly thematically and canonically different figure, such as this Lovecraftian thingy, seems an odd choice and it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb from a thematic and lore perspective. The problem is that the Abomination creates an issue by being a “category of one” as opposed to fitting into the original game’s three rough categories (as indicated by the colours of the plastic): - The greenskins (goblins, orcs and fimirs) - The undead (skeletons, zombies and mummies) - The forces of chaos (chaos warriors, the gargoyle and the witch/warlock) Personally, I think that the Abomination would’ve fit better into a Lovecraftian horror styled expansion where it could get some “companions” of a similar flavour, while the Fimir would probably have been better replaced by something more “greenskin’ish” that, thematically, could serve as a “chief” for the orcs and goblins, like a troll, an ogre, a giant or something along those lines.
Admittedly I think I'd be looking at replacing the abomination with a more fitting miniature from another company. I completely agree that thematically the new one clashes.
Newp. They were wood, painted white with black ink on the surface. After a time it rubbed off. I have like 10 of these dice I've purchased over the years. They're terrible.
I had the original game, but because an ex of mine made me feel guilty by using a quote, it actually came from the bible but she did not know what she was quoting from, anyhow I still gave up all my games and miniatures because I felt I should be acting my age, however that was twenty years ago and I actually still play games without the shame the ex made me feel. Now I feel inclined to replace my lost love that was my first miniatures game.
Was it the "qhen I was a child I acted as a child, but when I became a man I gave up childish things" quote from the new testament? Playing games isn't childish and your ex sounds like deadweight
Good to hear you are back to playing games, life should be enjoyed and a love of board games is a much healthier vice than a lot of other things. Especially with people looking at screens so much these days, I think a lot of us have grown to value board games more, because that way we get to sit with friends around a table and do something fun together. I never had this game personally, but it has drawn my attention since all components seem super usable fort D&D too so that makes the price more worth it as well. I did have the 2003 D&D board game, was a bit disappointing, this one seems like more fun. I'm getting a lot of use out of it's miniatures for D&D though, but that one was pretty cheap.
I had this game as a kid and lost it. I also had the Return of the Witch Lord Expansion. All that we have now is the box for Return of Witch Lord and the plastic figures. The actual game box disappeared. If I didn't already have Frosthaven and Gloomhaven, I might consider the new HQ. I just don't have shelf space.
I remember playing the original as a kid! I think parts of it might still be around. Anyhow, does the app allow one to play solo with the new game...? I might have to look into getting the new version if it does.
It does, but I wouldn't want to play with a full party of heroes that way. However, I did have a blast over the holidays playing the Elf solo quests from Mage in the Mirror using the app.
About the price tag, it should be noted that $40 in 1989 when accounting for inflation is just short of $100 today - it was not exactly a cheap game back then either
I was just going to comment this after using the calculator on the Bureau of Labor website lol.
I was lucky my best friend was always good at earning/saving money so he was often able to buy cool stuff. He had Hero Quest AND Battle Masters when we were kids. Great memories.
Hang on a second. NES games were $50-60 on release in the 80’s. It does not make sense to adjust for inflation in this case. So this is just crap. The game should have been $50 for the rerelease
@@ts7844 video game and board game prices are not analogous in this way for multiple reasons.
@@ALK82 I’m sorry I was only using video games as an example. I can say that the analogy applies to most products. You can’t pick and choose when to apply an inflated conversion.
My wife just bought this for me for Christmas. The only present that timewarped me back to my childhood and brought tears to my eyes! Now I can bring the same joy to my 9 year old son
Awwww, that's awsome!
Nice! I got it for my kids this Christmas as well and we played our first trial a few hours ago. They loved it. I haven't played it since 93 and it was just as fun as I remembered. Enjoy!
The best thing about Hero Quest is the role-to-move rule. Will I trip on a flagstone, or leap heroically into battle?
Actually the best thing is the furniture. I even replaced my own furniture with hero quest furniture.
The best thing about Heroquest is the GARGOYLE!
The best thing about Hero Quest is the brodesord!
BRODESORD
@@erwinekkel9676 Oh no! Mormons!
While is was in the Marine reserves back in mid 90’s I had brought this game brought it with me while on 2 week training. This game was really popular and people were playing long hours after duty. It really helped pass the time. 😊
Somebody: "It's stupid, it's for kids"
Marines: "We play it. You want to fight about that?"
I had this. I have this. I still have the character sheets and the new magic spells and custom races I invented to play this. This was MY first d&d game. 1994 was a good year. Got my 1st gen gameboy too that year
Oh! Good memories!!
Wow! Good year indeed! ♫
sorry to ruin it for you but the 1st gen gameboy are the ones from 1989 just like the one i have.
@@EUROCORP2027and they were sold in 1994 too which is when he got his. Sorry to ruin it for YOU
Came with tetris and i got me a copy of legend of zelda links awakening. I also got a handyboy. The screen magnifier with wing powered speakers and mini arcade control addons. It was the absolute bomb for a 14 yo kid at the time. Links awakening is the best game up to the original resident evil on playstation.
Hero quest is a table top equivalent of this before that came out.
It was a HasbroPlus Kickstarter that raked in almost 4 million dollars. It has 2 exclusive figures, but they have already released the 2 expansions and will be releasing more expansions in the future.
Yes. I'm really looking forward to those.
It has a lot more than just two exclusive figures. The Mythic tier came with an additional 3 quest books, a new Dragon miniature, alternate male and female versions of the heroes, over a dozen alternate monsters sculpts, an extra set of dice...etc.
I do prefer the original art on most of the cards personally though.
I'd say most do. But hey, it IS awesome the brought it back. It was nigh imposssible to get the game before the re-release. I'm pretty sure, this will once more the starting point for many adventureres.
@@HerrHoppenstedtnah, as companies go broke, and as investors want more and more gains, corpos will continue to provide content via reprints indefinitely.
Captain, this brings back some very fond memories. A friend of mine (who I still play DnD with) received this game for Christmas in ‘90. We played the heck out of it and used the minis as pieces for regular DnD play. To this day we still say “checking for traps” and the Dread (Chaos) Mage is the quintessential BBEG figurine. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I’ll be sharing this one with my group for maximum nostalgia.
My cousin did the same on custom maps with the mini's! For the D&D. I was only 7 when i started playing but I still remember it to this day !
Was such a good game. With all the characters and enemies and furnitures. It made it really fun seeing all these pieces on the board.
I had the original Hero Quest as a kid! I never really played the game much, but I used the figures and furniture for all sorts of stuff, from playing out my own little adventures, to decorating my D&D adventures.
We moved a lot as a kid, and that cardboard box got beat all to hell. I think it lasted 15 years? Of constant moving, being dragged to friends' houses, going to my Grandma's for vacation, etc. I still have a few of the figures, but most of it is gone.
I'm really tempted to buy the new one, even though I still probably won't play it much as intended.
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If I remember well, it had about 13 scenarios and so I started making my own ones to keep playing this magnificent game.
It's cool that the ink on the dice wont wear the way the old ones did, but there's something more pleasing about wooden dice to me. It's not a deal breaker by any means, just a preference.
Nice comparison video. I would offer some constructive criticism, if you don’t mind. I’m someone who is unfamiliar with both versions of the game, so when you compared minis/cards side-by-side, I couldn’t always tell which was which. Perhaps you could always put the one version on the same side to avoid confusion. Just a thought. Keep making videos!
That's a great idea! thank you! Also, I did do a review on the ORIGINAL game as well you might find that of interest.
Thanks for posting this! Local gaming store just got these in!
Its pretty darn cool. The video will give you a pretty clear idea of the differences.
This was my favorite game of all time! I remember being inspired to read the entire Lord of The Rings books! I wanted to know more about fantasy and the settings! ♥
this game was my child hood :') i remember the day my brother bought it from an opshop and it had missing pieces so we took pieces from other board games and even made custom maps ill never forget using the orc slayer in one of the last quests against a wave of orcs while my friend was taking on the last boss simpler times i miss them.
A buddy of mine bought the original back in the day , we played the heck outta it, even bought the expansions.
Loved this game, as well the boardgame, DRAGONSTRIKE.
Great video, Great memories, thank you 👍
This was my childhood.. I have 3 copies of the game. My original still from 1989 , A 1990 euro version...and another almost brand new copy from 1990... Now im going to order the 2021 version.
1989>2021 ; still glad that its been remade for another generation regardless , such a wonderful game ; also everyone deserves to know 'the best thing about heroquest' ; honestly impressed by the 2021 version quality
Man, I had the original. My uncle got it for me as a Christmas gift and he was so disorganised he wrapped it in newspaper. I remember the cheesy TV commercial, I'd say I got it in '89-90.
I remember getting it the year it came out for my 10 year old birthday and couldn’t wait to play and my brother, sister, mom, and dad selected their characters and my dad threw a fit because he didn’t want to be the “wimpy elf who will instantly get killed” he held strong and refused to play until my brother gave up the barbarian. My father wasn’t a board game player and I can still remember it. I loved this game and currently I’m playing Oathsworn which feels like the pinnacle of the game type evolution
I have 2 copies of the Original mine which i painted my mini's and played it to death and my best mates untouched almost brand new set he gave to me. This brings back so many memories, i also have Dark World still in the box. :)
This is both nostalgic and depressing; I had the original game and all expansions that were, long ago, borrowed and never returned. It has been some decades and I cannot even remember who borrowed them... sad times! 😒
I love that there has been a remake so that it is still available for younger generations to enjoy, although the Chaos Warrior was always my favorite figure. 🙄
Oh mawje not homaje :P. I love this type of content man. Truly, thanks for the effort people like you keep me coming to youtube despite what a garbage pit it's become over the years
Thanks for highlighting the app. Did not know there was an app.
Funnily enough I stumbled on the 89 boardgame when rumbling around on the attic.
I’ll get it setup once again around Xmas.
I remember the original wooden dice being doubleshot with differently colored wood, so no wearing off of the ink. But perhaps my European version was different to the American one in this regard.
Hero Quest was a great introduction game to RPGs and Dungeon Crawling. It gave young kids in the 1990s a chance to explore the fantasy realm of Warhammer or D&D and Tolkens Middle Earth. Who could forget naming their Barbarian either Connan or Barbie? Or rollong poorly wiy the insufferable wooden combat dices (skulls when saving and sheilds when attacking) Looking back it was a visually great looking game but also had poor game play.
Great Review Cap, think I'll go buy this and get my boys into the hobby.
I had no idea this existed. Bought the entire set. Can't wait to play it.
OMG I had the old one when I was a kid! I had also found and been playing D&D at the same time. I eventually got into boards and minis thanks to Hero Quest.
I always remember this game. My cousins got it when we were kids and we never understood how to play it. I, at least, never got into RPGs so I had no experience nor will to get into anything like that.
Just grabbed this on Amazon today after eye balling it in many different game stops... $31.50. ⚔️
It was my favourite game for years and is enhanced further when you reply to the dungeon using the Advanced Hero Quest rules.
I loved Hero Quest as a kid. Battle Masters too! They were sold at a yard sale at some point, and then, when I became a young adult I eventually rebought both games on Ebay. This new release looks pretty neat...I guess they've changed "Chaos" to "Dread" and the Fimirs to the Deep One things due to licensing (Chaos and Fimir are both Games Workshop things) - but I liked the cool Games Workshop flavor of the old stuff. I remember growing up and then as a middle schooler discovering Warhammer, and then seeing the Warhammer fantasy stuff and realizing Hero Quest was connected - that was really cool!
Fimir are a Celtic Myth thing. iirc, they're pretty rapey, which is why GW were never too keen to push them - and may also be why they were sidelined for this one.
I had Battle Masters as well! That game was great. Its probably somewhere in my dads attic actually, Hero Quest and that was definitely a gateway into warhammer for me
If they have the rights to the original game, surely, they should be able to re-use the unit naming without legal issue?
Copyright law sucks.
Oh man, had this as a boy! Saw that a new „version“ is out. Came across this great video and am glad to learn its a re-release rather than a new version.
Got this for Xmas the year it came out, loved it.
Aaaah Hero quest, good childhood memories, thanks for the nice reminiscence.
My original HeroQuest had the shit dumbed down EU rules, so getting the US version of the rules with the new HeroQuest is a major improvement.
Two major fails in the EU rules: All monsters had only 1 HP and no Chaos/Dread spells for enemy spellcasters to use.
Hello and thank you for this video.
I still have my old box. Its condition is impeccable, for its venerable age (1989).
She will be enough for me.
That being said, I suppose that this reissue also serves to calm the price inflation of the first edition, which has become almost unobtainable here in Europe.
The complete range in "relatively good condition" sold for nearly €700.
While waiting for new videos, I wish you good games and dice 20 per thousand!
I have the original and the new (obviously). I never got any of the other expansions (the Ogre expansion for example), so my hope is a lot of the really obscure releases (and ridiculous on ebay to buy) will get new life.
My uncle had this board game back in the day and I remember I used to stare at the Box being mesmerized by it
I prefer the old version. There is something just too "cartoony" about the new ones. I also have some umbridge about the size difference... I felt like it was so that the new expansions are not compatible with the old board - meaning you HAVE to buy the new board as well.
Would have loved ❤ to do all the graphic works for this release!
I played Hero Quest as a kid in the 90s
Oh, i wanted this since i was a little kid. But i didn't speak any languages at that time and it wasn't even sold in my country.
my friend and i couldnt figure it out. it was just too complicated but we may have been too young. i regret not having someone to show us how it worked or taking more time to try and understand it. we were too used to normal roll and move games.
I didn’t know this happened. I have the complete original and quest packs plus extras Got to get this now
I owned this as a kid, don't know what happened to it unfortunatly. Saw it recently at my local boardgame store, it was price at 225$ canadian 😬
Best thing is when you own the old and the new version you at least can mix and match the minatures. Double the Heroes and the Enemies, double the fun!
The best thing about HeroQuest is Advanced HeroQuest.
I love the original HeroQuest and I wish I had the new HeroQuest.
I was just a convention where someone brought a near perfect complete 89 release for sale, probably could have gotten cheaper online but after shipping and taxes if any, would have cost the same. Regardless it was a timed sale event and others were eyeing it up, I eventually just went for it since I haven't seen the physic89 version in 30 years when I was a kid and ruined my brother's copy and the feels of seeing that old artwork. ❤❤❤❤ 😢
It is a lovely comparison.
One constructive criticism: when making a comparison between two games, keep the positioning the same for all the screenshots (i.e. new game on the left/top, old game on the right/bottom).
This avoids to the viewer eyes to have to wander around and have to identify what is what.
For the rest, very well done
In New Zealand the release was $400 + It's still selling at $370 in 2023!
Thanks man for a superinteresting and helpful video!
Was Chaos magic in the original a revision? I still have my original UK edition and those spells are not part of it. I had the Kellars keep expansion too but no reference to them
I'm really interested in getting the new edition just for the bigger board and to get friends and family to try it
This was an excellent game then and I'm sure it still is
Thanks for doing this. I had the original but sold it. Originals are very expensive in NZ.
This was a super helpful video!
I have 4 of the original sets of this & every expansion (2 sets & additional duplicate expansions were from a buddy who gave them to me). I used to have even more, but sold/gave away a bunch years ago. Why I had so many? Toys 'R Us put them on clearance for $10 per set at one point in the early 90s & I bought 10(!!) of them purely for the minis as I wanted a Fimir army in Warhammer. The prices on the Barbarian & Elf Quest packs have gotten completely ridiculous!
So , do you wish to sell anything/sets at a fair price or trade? Not seeing you on BGG.
HQ(new) can fairly be found at about $100, do you want to sell any of those expanded versions?
Regards
He’s a game hoarder.. probably rob you blind
Gamestop is/was doing a sale this year. Buy 2 get 1 free. Hero quest was on the sale, so I picked up 3 copies (for gifts to various households). Total price per copy came to $66. Not a bad sale for such a treasure.
I loved me some heroes quest when i was a kid. Havent played that game in forever
If your an Aussie and you're wondering the game is AU$210-$250. The expansions are AU$50-$70.
Thats a hard sell on what i think is a flooded board game market these days 😮
I have the 1989 version and can't wait to bring it out for my kids when they're ready
We played this and Dragon Strike a lot as a kid, as well as mutant chronicles.
I think a rehash of Space Hulk is also way long overdue !!
I have the original in pretty good condition, and have made homemade replicas of all the old expansions.
Now I need to find some good scans of the two new heroes and their cards and convert them to match the old school game
This was totally fun to see again. Yes, I had this one growing up and yes I played as much as I could with friends. But, it didn't last and I put it on the shelf when I learned about BBS's and "on-line" ANSI games like Tradewars 2002 and other ANSI puzzle games like ZZT. Since I left it on a shelf at my Mom's house I forgot all about it until now. I'm back in the same house but where is my game? It was on a shelf in the garage and it survived in near perfect condition. I've been playing table top games with friends and their kids for the past few years. Guess the next game i'm going to suggest?
The difference is one is widely available today while the other is no longer in print.
Also a big factor! lol
If only i could remember where my old copy went. Probably family but which ones?
BIG fan of hero quest! Been wondering about the differences. Thanks for explaining.
Thanks! I just dusted off my 1989 version I played once if that and was wondering the difference between the old version and the new version.
I have a copy of the original, plus some of the stuff from my brothers he also had the expansions but some of his stuff is missing, so I have like 1 & a half copies + some of the expansions stuff. We never had any of the UK only stuff.
Also there was a game called Advanced HeroQuest (My brother had that as well, but all that's left of it is the book and some room tiles, everything else is missing)
New Barb looks cool, look at the muscularity!
Bah! Purely for beginners. He is in fact 'easy mode'. TRUE aficionados of the game play the Dwarf!
the app is great and being compatible with the original is great. Once you open the box throw in the trash the bard and the druid you are ready to go :D
Agreed. Not a fan of those new characters, they are all poorly thought out and seem out of place. Orcs are evil monsters, not musicians. The warlock's game mechanics are broken, and a plant-controlling druid does not fit into the HeroQuest environment of an enclosed dungeon labyrinth.
I had this game but never got to play it. I'm still not sure if I have someone to play it with me. Darn it.
I could only dream of a reedition of Legend of Zagore, using an app or something like that, or just better robust electronics for Zagore. That game had cool exploration (tho too many pieces), cool figurines and a decent amount of backstabbing between players.
Excellent video comparison I'm going to get this one 👍 🎲😎
I got this for Christmas in 1992. We had the UK version in Australia. I bought all 3 expansions (Witch King, Kellar's Keep, Against The Ogre Horde) with Witch King and Keep priced at $20-30au (one I bought on special) and Ogre Hoard about $40au.
The new price converted to $au will be well north of $150au and the expansions close to $50au but I'd have to see how much local stores sell for or if I am forced to import it. Yeah, it costs more but like many nostalgia toys the price is hiked up as the real target is nostalgic adults with cash to burn. Still, it is cheaper than games like Magic: The Gathering and Warhammer 40k. Seems comparable to starting packs for Battletech currently and you get a lot more game for your money.
Here in the US, its about $110 for the main game and $30 for the witch king and Kellar's keep, and $49 for against the Ogre Horde and Magic Mirrior. To my mind, these aren't bad prices, given the cost of the originals in the 90s
@@captcorajus I looked up local pricing and it is all around $200au for the main game (give or take $10-20) and the expansions are all priced around $100au. This isn't really unexpected and it translates to more than $US value in $au but we have to import just about everything fun like this so shipping adds a lot even when sold locally.
Back in the 90s you could buy Hero Quest stuff in mainstream toy stores in Australia so it made a difference. Now it is all hobby and gaming stores.
Still have the original game from 80"s. But have not played it after that
I just found my old sticker book the other day 😊good memories ❤
Great review! I have the original Heroquest and a guy in my local AD&D group has the new one. While aesthetically I do like a few of the old minis better (as you say, the zombie with cleaver is cool and I prefer the Chaos motif) overall the new version is objectively of higher quality. I dig the art style of the old version but the new one is much more polished. The old cardboard and plastic furniture and doors got the job done but the all-plastic ones are much nicer. That said I'm not sure I'd pay the asking price especially since I have the original. It's not a terrible value by any means- expensive though it is you do get a lot for your money. I am a cheapskate though!😂 FWIW, I got mine for $10 on clearance at Kaybee Toys in the mall in the early 90s.😎
Ah yes, Kaybee clearances! I got a ton of game stuff from Kaybee back in the day. I remember getting the Kingdom of Karaomeikos and the Glantri boxed sets for 5.00 a piece back in the day.
@@captcorajus Yeah I got two of the Battle Masters boxed sets for $5 each!😲😎
I had the original as a kid.
We got it from a thrift store for $0.99 in the mid 90s.
Had no idea what a steal that was til I went to re-buy it as an adult.
I never know keybe toys has those before.
@@davesaylor7829 yes sir.salvation and good well priceses is rediclies prices now.there rare to find in theft store
My friend and I managed to find this in a thrift store around 1998 for 10 bad bones.
I got this game when I was in high school. I had played dungeons and dragons and similar games before getting this. I always felt like it was dungeons and dragons for people who didn’t have 6 to 8 hours to play a board game. I used to play with my brother and my cousin and we would squeeze in 3 or 4 solid fun games inside of two hours.
4:00 Ironic that it's Hasbro that now has to make changes to avoid lawsuits, since it was the predecessor MB that sued Sierra On-Line in 1989, forcing them to change the name of their PC action-adventure game Hero's Quest to the first entry in the now well-known Quest For Glory franchise.
I refined my barbarian first day I had it back in day ... sharpened his sword with a craft knife. Went to far made a dagger out of sword and buried knife in my 12 year old finger...off to hospital. I bled for this game just ordered the new un. Play with my 12 year old no refining . .great review, feel like kid at Christmas waiting for it now got a sub
The one problem is that the dread warrior has a shield. thematically for an evil warrior this seems wrong. The original chaos warriors with axes and balled fists fit the idea a bit better
Played this as a kid. Got it now to play with my kids. I gotta say, the app is great. It let's me play side by side with the kids. 100% worth it
HeroQuest was canonical set in Glorantha right ? Somewhat relayed to Runequest?
Not sure about that Glorantha being 'official' as Glorantha is Chaosium's game world. Game's Workshop's world is the 'Realm of Chaos.
Name Heroquest was associated a Gloranthan RPG. This Boardgame is unrelated.
Willy Muffin has a video explaining this
I have to get this! Great review! Thank you!
As regards the fimir,, I know that the new version had to replace figure for copyright purposes, but choosing a wholly thematically and canonically different figure, such as this Lovecraftian thingy, seems an odd choice and it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb from a thematic and lore perspective.
The problem is that the Abomination creates an issue by being a “category of one” as opposed to fitting into the original game’s three rough categories (as indicated by the colours of the plastic):
- The greenskins (goblins, orcs and fimirs)
- The undead (skeletons, zombies and mummies)
- The forces of chaos (chaos warriors, the gargoyle and the witch/warlock)
Personally, I think that the Abomination would’ve fit better into a Lovecraftian horror styled expansion where it could get some “companions” of a similar flavour, while the Fimir would probably have been better replaced by something more “greenskin’ish” that, thematically, could serve as a “chief” for the orcs and goblins, like a troll, an ogre, a giant or something along those lines.
Yeah, that's a good point. I thought it didn't feel right, but couldn't really put my finger on why until you spelled it out here.
Admittedly I think I'd be looking at replacing the abomination with a more fitting miniature from another company. I completely agree that thematically the new one clashes.
Did you say Zargon? Like the guy in the Lost City.
Yes. Same spelling
Still got the one I bought for my son knocking around somewhere!
I think the original dice were indented print as well ?
Newp. They were wood, painted white with black ink on the surface. After a time it rubbed off. I have like 10 of these dice I've purchased over the years. They're terrible.
@@captcorajus I have a fondness for them but I remember them being grooved but was many years ago, appreciate the info
@@captcorajus they still fetch £5+ for one on ebay....
I had the original game, but because an ex of mine made me feel guilty by using a quote, it actually came from the bible but she did not know what she was quoting from, anyhow I still gave up all my games and miniatures because I felt I should be acting my age, however that was twenty years ago and I actually still play games without the shame the ex made me feel. Now I feel inclined to replace my lost love that was my first miniatures game.
Admittedly I was too excited when I first started trying to release the Skeleton and other monsters and I broke the ankles and legs...
Was it the "qhen I was a child I acted as a child, but when I became a man I gave up childish things" quote from the new testament? Playing games isn't childish and your ex sounds like deadweight
Good to hear you are back to playing games, life should be enjoyed and a love of board games is a much healthier vice than a lot of other things.
Especially with people looking at screens so much these days, I think a lot of us have grown to value board games more, because that way we get to sit with friends around a table and do something fun together.
I never had this game personally, but it has drawn my attention since all components seem super usable fort D&D too so that makes the price more worth it as well.
I did have the 2003 D&D board game, was a bit disappointing, this one seems like more fun. I'm getting a lot of use out of it's miniatures for D&D though, but that one was pretty cheap.
Good for you. HeroQuest is awesome and fun. Your ex sounds like a self-entitled boring slag. Don't ever let a woman ruin your life.
@@Cha0sCloud I was incredibly young back then, and I hope I have learnt something since then, mostly anyway...
Sadly, the description you gave means this channel isn't for me, but I did enjoy Heroquest as a kid so i watched the video anyway.
loved playing the game on the zx spectrum. The music was iconic.
I had this game as a kid and lost it. I also had the Return of the Witch Lord Expansion. All that we have now is the box for Return of Witch Lord and the plastic figures. The actual game box disappeared. If I didn't already have Frosthaven and Gloomhaven, I might consider the new HQ. I just don't have shelf space.
The best part about Heroquest is the board...it's cracking!
I remember playing the original as a kid! I think parts of it might still be around.
Anyhow, does the app allow one to play solo with the new game...? I might have to look into getting the new version if it does.
It does, but I wouldn't want to play with a full party of heroes that way. However, I did have a blast over the holidays playing the Elf solo quests from Mage in the Mirror using the app.