Good sheet ;) Do you feel like they should shake up his starting talents, maybe rethink Explosive Rats to shore up the rat build? I find myself taking Freezing Trap more than half the time, except when one of the others are at epic or legendary. Keep 'em coming!
@@torpor8652 if they could make it something good enough to be 50/50 with freezing trap that would be awesome, if reworks to underperforming talents is on the table that’s the thing I’m most excited for after a new character
@positive4ce As cool as it would be, Pulverize DOES NOT work with Explosive Rush (yes the bomb is bigger but combo points used to dash through do not contribute to bomb' damage)
@@jupo. since I like to showcase specific builds for videos it depends what the build is. Like a scarlet attack build has a lot of talents that make it good and mainly just ace of spades for a magical object, in this case I’d try to focus talent rerolls. In a pied piper dash build I’d only really need spinning solo and music of the spheres but there’s like 4-5 magical objects that would be really beneficial to stack so I’d probably save them for those. I also tend to take rerolls out of grimoires when the other options are damage, vitality, or crit chance
I do feel like your misjudging the rat build, horde is one of the strongest talents as it actively increases the dps of the rats, as rats never die having 32 attacking instead of 20 is a massive upgrade. Special is of course very strong so it should be used with rat build, I'm not sure why u would opt out of picking Chorus/Low Notes when playing rats tho My usual pickup order: Freezing Trap > Sforzando / Stimulant Vibes / Horde / Chorus > Invasive Blast / Leeching Charm > Giant Rats / Low Notes of course not every game is perfect, I usually spend my rolls on chests rather than skills esp when playing multiplayer and u need to scale hard into late game
@@tomhendriks8304 for me it’s something that’d I’d pick up in the later levels if I can avoid it earlier on, I think invasive blast is a lot more important with sforzando to spawn them because if you don’t have stimulant vibes then they’re all going to be used on killing one or two enemies. Invasive blast lets you stack them a lot quicker and have rats with you in every fight. I find horde to play its part better in the build after getting stimulant vibes and a lot of special charges to keep them topped off And yeah I probably should have recommended chorus/low notes for that build too, it’s mainly that chorus/low notes starts to overshadow any other aspect of a build that I normally like the build more without it, feels like I’m really relying on just the rats
as much as i love virtuoso, freezing trap still seems better even for an autoattack focused build - courtesy of the ever OP chorus edit to add: im super curious what the secondary ult upgrades will be come patch day. really hoping theres a "spawn a rat every time you dash" kind of talent for the plague of rats ult. that can really open up rat builds along with the aggressive infestation (invasive blast) or w/e it's called.
I might even throw sforzando just behind chorus, especially on the multiplayer. Big fan.
Probably a perfect tier list here
@@TimmyJim1 yeah it’s good in every build and makes a lot of builds possible, agreed
Good sheet ;)
Do you feel like they should shake up his starting talents, maybe rethink Explosive Rats to shore up the rat build? I find myself taking Freezing Trap more than half the time, except when one of the others are at epic or legendary.
Keep 'em coming!
@@torpor8652 if they could make it something good enough to be 50/50 with freezing trap that would be awesome, if reworks to underperforming talents is on the table that’s the thing I’m most excited for after a new character
@positive4ce As cool as it would be, Pulverize DOES NOT work with Explosive Rush (yes the bomb is bigger but combo points used to dash through do not contribute to bomb' damage)
ohh I'm confused now, just had someone on the scarlet talent tier list say it does combo with explosive rush, I'm going to try and do some testing
How would you prioritize star rerolls? Do you concentrate on rerolling for the trait/build, or do you prioritize getting the right magical objects?
@@jupo. since I like to showcase specific builds for videos it depends what the build is. Like a scarlet attack build has a lot of talents that make it good and mainly just ace of spades for a magical object, in this case I’d try to focus talent rerolls. In a pied piper dash build I’d only really need spinning solo and music of the spheres but there’s like 4-5 magical objects that would be really beneficial to stack so I’d probably save them for those. I also tend to take rerolls out of grimoires when the other options are damage, vitality, or crit chance
@@positive4ce thanks :) so it varies a bit depending on the build. star of fate management is so important since they were introduced!
I do feel like your misjudging the rat build, horde is one of the strongest talents as it actively increases the dps of the rats, as rats never die having 32 attacking instead of 20 is a massive upgrade. Special is of course very strong so it should be used with rat build, I'm not sure why u would opt out of picking Chorus/Low Notes when playing rats tho
My usual pickup order:
Freezing Trap > Sforzando / Stimulant Vibes / Horde / Chorus > Invasive Blast / Leeching Charm > Giant Rats / Low Notes
of course not every game is perfect, I usually spend my rolls on chests rather than skills esp when playing multiplayer and u need to scale hard into late game
@@tomhendriks8304 for me it’s something that’d I’d pick up in the later levels if I can avoid it earlier on, I think invasive blast is a lot more important with sforzando to spawn them because if you don’t have stimulant vibes then they’re all going to be used on killing one or two enemies. Invasive blast lets you stack them a lot quicker and have rats with you in every fight. I find horde to play its part better in the build after getting stimulant vibes and a lot of special charges to keep them topped off
And yeah I probably should have recommended chorus/low notes for that build too, it’s mainly that chorus/low notes starts to overshadow any other aspect of a build that I normally like the build more without it, feels like I’m really relying on just the rats
But also yeah I agree, if you can get stimulant vibes and special charges early than I’d say horde would be better than invasive blast
as much as i love virtuoso, freezing trap still seems better even for an autoattack focused build - courtesy of the ever OP chorus
edit to add: im super curious what the secondary ult upgrades will be come patch day. really hoping theres a "spawn a rat every time you dash" kind of talent for the plague of rats ult. that can really open up rat builds along with the aggressive infestation (invasive blast) or w/e it's called.
I'm still hoping for rats to have some sort of stackable effect, like infinite bleed stacks or something would be so good
@@tomhendriks8304 yeah bleed is super underutilized, the new character looks like it might be in their kit but rats doing bleed makes sense
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