Who said that wasn’t true? Saying it’s the best position for a qb doesn’t mean that EVERY qb would succeed in that situation. You know the difference win those 2 statements, right? -not a bears fan
They will make excuses for him saying it’s the O line yet he literally was holding the ball for 7 seconds yesterday before getting sacked… acting like Drake maye had a better situation than he did 😂😂😂😂 Caleb just sucks, I never understood the hype around him at all
@@J.M.S.-Soundwhile that statement is true it doesn’t make sense here… if you’re a can’t miss prospect and your team gives you a great RB and one of the best receiving corps in the league and a good tight end you should succeed… You can argue it’s a coaching problem but assuming the playcalling is competent you should succeed with a team like that… Lamar was drafted 30th and was given the keys (10 games into the season) a stagnant Joe Flacco offense and made the postseason.. he got the MVP with Willie Snead as his receiver 1 😂 he should be succeeding
The issue with giving Tomlin COTY is it usually feels like it's given to the coach of a team that surprisingly does well, and makes the playoffs when not predicted to. While the Steelers were a question mark with how good they would look with Russ or Justin starting, they were still seen as a fringe playoff team. Washington and Dan Quinn were not expected to be as good as they are so quickly. They're about to play the Eagles on TNF for the division lead and Jayden Daniels has been great to watch play. Not taking anything away from what Tomlin has accomplished and what he does basically every season dragging the Steelers to a winning record but Quinn has been one half of the massive culture change that has happened in Washington.
KOC has taken a team that was picked to finish dead last in their division, were a 7 win team last year, and had their rookie qb get hurt. Yet they have the 3rd best record in the NFL. They were projected to have 7 wins max, and we already have 7 at basically the halfway point.
Sean McDermott took a team that most had finishing third in the division, taking the massive dead cap from diggs, and losing so much of his defense and he’s still gonna win the division
@@Harpazoed I don't think I understand your comment about being able to win a superbowl? Is it slander because Lamar is perceived to not have post season success? Or is there something about MVP that prevents it from occurring?
Taking one of the best rosters in the league to winning their division is deserved or expected? Quinn gets it as Tomlin will get his arse handed to him on the back end of the schedule. As of today, both should get votes over Campbell.
It was an especially big issue because the injury came late in the week after the game plan was already in place, forcing them to leave sewell on the right, rather than moving Skipper there where he is most comfortable & putting Sewell at left tackle. Doing so was impossible with very short notice though....however, in the unlikely event that Decker is out again, it will very probably end up being that way next week.
The negligence of Sean McDermott for COY is wild. They lost all those veterans & their captains (& an all pro LB on IR in preseason), no #1 receiver, "the Bills won't win the division", and they're possibly in position to take the #1 seed in the AFC with still a top 5-10 defense on PPGA w a bunch of late draft picks and discarded vets.
Yep I heard everything from Jets to Dolphins for AFC East leaders and we were supposed to be 3rd place...Bills taking a step back this year. They freakin love to hate on Josh he got robbed for MVP last year, there's no way they can't give it to Lamar this year. It's wreaks of straight bullshit fuckery
@@joe-gow9269 Tf you mean? Lamar has been playing better than Josh. Better stats, and they played head to head and Lamar won. You can say Josh should have won last year but this year--at least thus far--it's clearly Lamar.
@henlo1910 this isn't a Josh for MVP post. But at least acknowledge McDermott for a COY candidate. He doesn't need to win, but at least give the Bills HC some credit
@RyanLe5019 agreed. Joe Brady doin his thang too especially with all the injuries we've had. We still haven't hit our peak or worked all the kinks out yet
Bruh, I literally LOL'd (which is rare!) at the new Ravens uni looking like "the Crown Royal bags"!! 😂 Seriously though, Lamar is definitely at the top of the MVP race and this is coming from a life-long Commanders fan!
@@ScottEsser Congrats on Daniels he's looking like an elite qb as a rookie and should be in the mvp conversation as well. Especially if they win the division. I hope they do. I don't care for Philly or Dallas. Of course Philly is their only competition at this point.
Why is Andy Reid Not the COTY? They haven’t lost a game since last years Christmas! And in that run, the Chiefs have beaten the 49rs twice, the Ravens twice, the Bills in Buffalo. Just WOW!!
@@kennyhiggins7806 I think you can make the argument he is the best coach, but we all know the best coach doesn’t win COTY. COTY goes to the best coach, who doesn’t have a proven or established QB. I don’t agree with it but it always happens. So it will probably be either Dan Quinn or KoC.
Lamar is definitely MVP right now (by a mile), but incredibly lazy analysis...Josh Allen is 15-9 in November in his career, 2-0 this year. 17-8 in December, as well. Since 2020 that's 14-2 in December. Josh has played great late in the season. Stat-wise, no one can compare to Lamar right now but it's not necessary to disrespect Josh's play. Lamar also has a 2,000 yard RB and a great offense around him. Josh is making it work with different guys every week with players constantly in and out with injuries. He was missing 3 of his top 4 pass catchers for the bulk of the game against the Colts and still had 280 yards passing, 50 yards rushing and a rushing TD.
I think ol' Kirko got stuck in a little A.I. 'Practice' speech wormhole there at the end. We just needed the off-camera chortling, and a reporter egging him on: "So, Allen, it isn't about the game?"
Tomlin isn’t COTY. If it’s not Dan Campbell or Andy Reid it’s criminal. You said tomlin has built this from the ground up…what the hell do you think Dan Campbell has done??
Why is KOC never mentioned? Campbell and reid have teams that went deep and won the Superbowl. Vikings were bad last year, and many had them picked to be the worst team in football this year. At best, they had them with 6-7 wins. Halfway through the season and we have 7 wins and tied for the 3rd best record in the NFL. That's who deserves coach of the year, not someone who's team is good after almost or winning the Superbowl last year.
I genuinely think Sean McDermott deserves Coach of the Year consideration. This was supposed to be the "rebuild" year for the Bills. This was the year the Dolphins & Jets were supposed to leapfrog the Bills while they took a step back. They lost a ton of veterans, the lost Diggs, they had no cap room, they scraped the bottom of the barrel to piece together a WR corps (right now starting Shakir, Virgil, Hollins & Samuel), and somehow they're off to their best start since 1993.
I'm a Ravens fan and I was thinking the same thing. He'll probably get another MVP but that's little consolation if the defense can't allow fewer yards and points and force more turnovers.
As much as I want Tomlin to win coach of the year. There has to be something said bout 3 other coaches. Let's start with the coach that lost to Tomlin, in Dan Quinn. What he has done with a team expected to have a top 5 pick this year is nothing short of amazing. Then we have Harbaugh out in LA with the Chargers. Another team in such disarray, and now they winning. Lastly Gannon from Arizona. Similar to Quinn in Washington. A team to be 4th in their divsion, right now in the driver's seat playing outstanding football.
Not sure why the Lions are getting lumped in. Only one game this season that they won, but shoulda lost. This one against the Texans. Close games against Rams and Vikings, but no huge mistakes. Other games were normal or blowouts
Chiefs with significantly higher time of possession, more yards, more first downs… explain to me again how the Broncos “controlled the entire game”? Was it when they didn’t score for the final 36 minutes? Yes, Denver could’ve won, but they were far from dominating in the way that the Monday morning QBs are suggesting.
It’s the fact that he made a decision that nobody really thought it was going to pay off….so far it has but they got all division games the rest of the season
Caleb Williams is like Sam Bradford & Kamala Harris, media hype. The media covers up all their flaws & anoints them the "winner" and make the pressure so great on a Head Coach that they have to end up drafting said disaster. The media has way too much power over picking "the next big thing." Every year they do this, they got it right w/ Lebron James, they get it wrong much more often.
That stupid talk that the bears are failing Caleb... Coaching Situation is not worse than the Pats one. Supporting cast is much better than the Broncos, Patriots and Commanders - arguably even the best for any 1st overall pick. He's missing open throws every night, he's holding the ball forever and gets sacked way too much, which is not completely his fault, but more often than not. If we look at the fellow drafties, Daniels is looking like the far superior player, Maye already had elite flashes and Nix is really starting to look like a really good NFL starting QB. It's just not working out so far and it's not at all just the Bears fault.
Anyone who says Campbell or Reid should be COTY needs to be drug tested. They have great quality players in offense and defense. No one ever thought Chiefs and Lions were going to struggle. Eisen even had them in the Super Bowl. It is a two man race between Tomlin and McDermott. A lot of pundits had low expectations from the Steelers and Bills. Look at them now
If the Commanders win their division Quinn should get some votes. As far as pundits - Vegas in this case - I don't know why they picked the Steelers to finish last in their division. They had a great draft, signed Patrick Queen and improved significantly at quarterback.
I have a tough time taking Lamar Jackson as MVP seriously when he's got a RB that was averaging more then 100 yards 10 games in. That by default makes you not the most valuable player when you have a guy brought in who can do that. You can argue "they feed off one another" all you want, it just means they split votes. Which is not what an MVP is about.
STEELERS absolutely wrong. they can keep winning with whatever it takes won with Fields won with Russ won with Defense won with special teams (see Bozwell 6 FG game) won with Offense do you know what a COMPLETE TEAM looks like ????
Caleb Williams will be fine, Matt eberflus will be fired it’s not hard to understand. The best thing for him would be for the bears to give up on him so the rams/browns could grab him because those teams have competent coaches
Lamar didn't play bad in those games though. That's what Ravens fans will say. But that just proves it's a *TEAM* game. Look at how Burrow is playing, yet nobody is calling for him to be MVP because his *TEAM* isn't winning. Football fans are flakey though, they want to give all the credit to their QB when it's convenient, then hand-wave away any losses. Unless it's the other team's QB, then it's all his fault all the time.
But having a better record is why Lamar won MVP last year, so how can you pretend record isn't a factor now? Lamar already has better stats than he had all of last season combined, yet he still won MVP because of his record.
@ if you think Lamar won mvp because his team had a better record then you didn’t watch the ravens games last year and see the miracles he worked every week to give the Ravens the top seed in the whole NFL And he also out performed the hell out of the guy they tried to say was his competition in lasts years mvp race, and the same thing happened from when Allen & Lamar played this year. Purdy ended with like 5 picks and got sat in the 4th while Lamar did exactly what he does every week he’s healthy. Balled tf out lol
Ppl need to pay attention to the fact that the Bears WHIFFED on the #1 pick. Caleb was not ever pro ready. He is exactly the same QB he was at USC. He can’t read NFL defenses, is an AWFUL decision maker (holding onto the ball for 3 seconds is a sack in the NFL) and he cannot scramble bc he’s no longer faster than every single DL player. Remember when everyone was worried that Daniels would get hurt bc he scrambled too much? Nobody talked about how bad Caleb would be killed by holding onto the ball just like he did at USC. Daniels got better. Williams hasn’t. The Bears have more talent on offense than they did in 2006 and maybe on defense. But they’re going to maybe win 5 games.
chris brockman a whole goofy. talm bout some josh allen deserves MVP. boy FOH, mans got thumped by the ravens he had 0tds and lamar had 3, then the following week went 9/30, and on sunday vs the colts played like josh allen in 2018 turning the ball over. his division also don’t have a team that has more than 4 wins. and he has a good defense(which lamar dunked on). lamar is playing with one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL, you think lamar can go 9/30? you think lamar can afford to throw multiple picks? FOH and stop hating
Chiefs were down by 11. They so mediocre they was able to catch up and win the game. But broncos controlled the game. They score in 1 quarter and was shut down the rest of game. But chuefs played mediocre. They ball!! Stop hating
So Caleb is a generational talent but none of this is his fault and he needs help. But then if you are brock purdy and picked last, you are penalized for having a good team and being the dude to run it all seamlessly. Can we stop pretending Caleb Williams is good? Bears have lots of issues and he is one of them.
Steve young was a bust with Tampa bay and an mvp/hof with the 49ers. Coaching and talent matter, Mahomes would not have 3 Super Bowls if he was drafted by the Jets
I'm a Bills fan, and I agree. But the MVP voters set that standard last year - record matters more than stats. And if you disagree, just look at the fact that Lamar ALREADY has better stats than he had all of last year. He won MVP because he was the QB on the team with the best record. So by that logic, Mahomes should be MVP, followed by Allen, then Lamar. In reality, Lamar is the best QB in the league right now.
Just so I'm sure... Tomlin is the CEO coach who has led a team for MANY years, who is propped up for being over .500, who has 0 members of a coaching tree, but has one-liners that many think are cute? That guy?
@@kingroyalty9621 saying Allen has done nothing in the playoffs is crazy his playoff stats outside of the one bengals game are incredible....he doesnt play defense too
This dude jumped the shark hardcore. Wentz also looked like MVP in 2017, but injuries happen. Lamar's style leads him to a higher injury risk, handing him the award now would be foolish, even if just in jest.
Allen has had at least 3 bad games. How is he still in consideration for MVP. Played two good teams and were embarrassed. But the Bills in a real division and they’re struggling to win 9 games.
i'm not understanding why people are trying to force feed the "Josh Allen MVP" narrative on people.. The Bills have beat 1 team that you look at them and say "that is a good team playing good football".. that's the Cardinals.. The other good teams that Josh has played he threw for under 180 both times, went 9/30 in one of them and lost both.. and now if he beats Pat and the Chiefs "oh he might be atop the MVP conversation".. how?? he's coming off a game with 0 TDs and 2 picks
Have yall just over looked LJ beat the bills this season and I don't think it was even close gtfo here always bringing him up he can't carry a team like Lj bye
@1yankeesrule so we're we it's the nfl no one made those excuses when we lost to yall when we were injured. we talking bout here and now what had happen yall got waxed
Lamar beat the Bills, or did the Ravens *TEAM* beat the Bills? Because if you want to give him all the credit for the win, you have to give him all the blame for losing to the Raiders & Browns - 2 of the worst teams in the league. Doesn't matter if he played well in those games, you're setting it up as the QB wins games, not the *TEAM.*
@corey2232 then he should of caught that int the safety dropped or when others player make mistakes it always comes back to Lj he should of done more and he has done more with less thru the years then Allen. He also has done nothing in the playoffs but it's OK to pin it all on Lj always
@@joe-gow9269 liking your own comment and calling someone else a 🤡. He can’t be an mvp candidate with one of the worst qb performances in nfl history a few games ago. Now stop liking your comments and go touch grass.
Imagine a world where a guy (who is GREAT btw) that has the best RB ever, IS more RB than QB himself (doesn't really matter though), yet has not ONCE shown to be a playoff winning QB (2-4) ...is going to be the MOST VALUABLE player more than the guy who just keeps winning ALL the time. Another guy is 15-3 in playoffs, going for 4th ring in 7 seasons, is 5-1 vs Lamar, and hasn't lost since Xmas OR not won the SB since 2021 😳
God, do I miss when every dipstick didn't have a place to spout their hot takes outside of their local bar. This comment is beyond stupid/rage bait. Lamar has the 2nd highest win% since 2018 behind only Mahomes. Rodgers and Manning both have more MVP's than Brady, the literal GOAT, but don't even combine for half as many rings. Manning also took 6 seasons to win 1 playoff game and started 2-4 in the postseason, just like Lamar has so far. KC fans are just insufferable and have to interject themselves into everything.
It's a regular season stat award. He should win it. Mahomes doesn't have monster stats or he would win it. Not that hard to understand. Don't get caught up in the definition of words just know how people use them.
That doesn’t matter. Buffalo was hurt and we don’t have players like Baltimore has and we have a better record than u guys. Baltimore lost to Cleveland and the Raiders. We lost to Baltimore and Houston. 2 good teams.
Goff is 6-0 in his career when throwing 4 or more picks in a game. Crazy!
He’s 1-1 that was straight up misinformation
What happened to "there's never been a quarterback in a better position too succeed, than caleb williams"
Who said that wasn’t true?
Saying it’s the best position for a qb doesn’t mean that EVERY qb would succeed in that situation.
You know the difference win those 2 statements, right?
-not a bears fan
He just needs to hit the nail salon and get a good cry in. Don't trip
They will make excuses for him saying it’s the O line yet he literally was holding the ball for 7 seconds yesterday before getting sacked… acting like Drake maye had a better situation than he did 😂😂😂😂 Caleb just sucks, I never understood the hype around him at all
Same thing going on with Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville
@@J.M.S.-Soundwhile that statement is true it doesn’t make sense here… if you’re a can’t miss prospect and your team gives you a great RB and one of the best receiving corps in the league and a good tight end you should succeed…
You can argue it’s a coaching problem but assuming the playcalling is competent you should succeed with a team like that…
Lamar was drafted 30th and was given the keys (10 games into the season) a stagnant Joe Flacco offense and made the postseason.. he got the MVP with Willie Snead as his receiver 1 😂 he should be succeeding
The issue with giving Tomlin COTY is it usually feels like it's given to the coach of a team that surprisingly does well, and makes the playoffs when not predicted to. While the Steelers were a question mark with how good they would look with Russ or Justin starting, they were still seen as a fringe playoff team. Washington and Dan Quinn were not expected to be as good as they are so quickly. They're about to play the Eagles on TNF for the division lead and Jayden Daniels has been great to watch play. Not taking anything away from what Tomlin has accomplished and what he does basically every season dragging the Steelers to a winning record but Quinn has been one half of the massive culture change that has happened in Washington.
I think coach of the year so far is Dan Campbell, Dan Quinn, Andy Reid, or Mike Tomlin.
KOC has taken a team that was picked to finish dead last in their division, were a 7 win team last year, and had their rookie qb get hurt. Yet they have the 3rd best record in the NFL. They were projected to have 7 wins max, and we already have 7 at basically the halfway point.
Sean McDermott took a team that most had finishing third in the division, taking the massive dead cap from diggs, and losing so much of his defense and he’s still gonna win the division
Assistant of the year is Steve Spagnuolo. What he has done with this defense is remarkable and a huge reason why they're undefeated.
COTY Dan Quinn hands down.
@@JesusSaves373 Can't argue with that. I forgot about him. He's resurrected Sam Darnold's career as well.
You guys can have your MVPs. I want my QB to be able to go and win a Super Bowl.
No COTY to Dan Campbell? That’s ok. A SB is more important c
Who's your QB?
@ Goff. They keep acting like it’s all up to 1 person (QBs) its a team sport. It just seems like a popularity contest to me.
@@Harpazoed I don't think I understand your comment about being able to win a superbowl?
Is it slander because Lamar is perceived to not have post season success? Or is there something about MVP that prevents it from occurring?
@@Harpazoed and it is. Always has been, media has to create narratives to buy attention
If Dan Campbell is not the coach of the year, you're wrong lol
No it’s Mike Tomlin
Tomlin, still potentially DQ after the loss, and Dan Campbell.
@@eyaffe1 I still think its Dan Quinn if he hits 10 wins and the playoffs it'd be extremely difficult to not give it to him.
Taking one of the best rosters in the league to winning their division is deserved or expected? Quinn gets it as Tomlin will get his arse handed to him on the back end of the schedule. As of today, both should get votes over Campbell.
A good team still being good doesn't lead to winning that award
That‘s why the Show of Eisen is the best in the NFL network and yes, you can’t keep winning like that
Nobody is mentioning that Taylor Decker, our pro bowl LT, was out last night and clearly was an issue not having him
It was an especially big issue because the injury came late in the week after the game plan was already in place, forcing them to leave sewell on the right, rather than moving Skipper there where he is most comfortable & putting Sewell at left tackle. Doing so was impossible with very short notice though....however, in the unlikely event that Decker is out again, it will very probably end up being that way next week.
The negligence of Sean McDermott for COY is wild. They lost all those veterans & their captains (& an all pro LB on IR in preseason), no #1 receiver, "the Bills won't win the division", and they're possibly in position to take the #1 seed in the AFC with still a top 5-10 defense on PPGA w a bunch of late draft picks and discarded vets.
Yep I heard everything from Jets to Dolphins for AFC East leaders and we were supposed to be 3rd place...Bills taking a step back this year. They freakin love to hate on Josh he got robbed for MVP last year, there's no way they can't give it to Lamar this year. It's wreaks of straight bullshit fuckery
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@@joe-gow9269 Tf you mean? Lamar has been playing better than Josh. Better stats, and they played head to head and Lamar won. You can say Josh should have won last year but this year--at least thus far--it's clearly Lamar.
@henlo1910 this isn't a Josh for MVP post. But at least acknowledge McDermott for a COY candidate. He doesn't need to win, but at least give the Bills HC some credit
@RyanLe5019 agreed. Joe Brady doin his thang too especially with all the injuries we've had. We still haven't hit our peak or worked all the kinks out yet
They did mid-season awards last week kirk
Bruh, I literally LOL'd (which is rare!) at the new Ravens uni looking like "the Crown Royal bags"!! 😂
Seriously though, Lamar is definitely at the top of the MVP race and this is coming from a life-long Commanders fan!
@@ScottEsser Congrats on Daniels he's looking like an elite qb as a rookie and should be in the mvp conversation as well. Especially if they win the division. I hope they do. I don't care for Philly or Dallas. Of course Philly is their only competition at this point.
They stole the team from Cleveland...now they're stealing the Vikings colors....more like crows or vultures than Ravens
Mike tomlin COTY is a cold take when Dan Campbell is out here biting kneecaps.
Why is Andy Reid Not the COTY? They haven’t lost a game since last years Christmas! And in that run, the Chiefs have beaten the 49rs twice, the Ravens twice, the Bills in Buffalo. Just WOW!!
@@kennyhiggins7806 I think you can make the argument he is the best coach, but we all know the best coach doesn’t win COTY. COTY goes to the best coach, who doesn’t have a proven or established QB. I don’t agree with it but it always happens. So it will probably be either Dan Quinn or KoC.
Lamar is definitely MVP right now (by a mile), but incredibly lazy analysis...Josh Allen is 15-9 in November in his career, 2-0 this year. 17-8 in December, as well. Since 2020 that's 14-2 in December. Josh has played great late in the season. Stat-wise, no one can compare to Lamar right now but it's not necessary to disrespect Josh's play. Lamar also has a 2,000 yard RB and a great offense around him. Josh is making it work with different guys every week with players constantly in and out with injuries. He was missing 3 of his top 4 pass catchers for the bulk of the game against the Colts and still had 280 yards passing, 50 yards rushing and a rushing TD.
Henry is the MVP of Baltimore not Lamar.
@@1yankeesrule I could get behind that argument, but it's a QB award lately. The combination of Lamar and Henry is electric either way.
@@1yankeesrulehe doea not have 500 yds so this season if LJ8 is not his QB.
Allen also threw 2 picks
I think ol' Kirko got stuck in a little A.I. 'Practice' speech wormhole there at the end. We just needed the off-camera chortling, and a reporter egging him on: "So, Allen, it isn't about the game?"
Tomlin isn’t COTY. If it’s not Dan Campbell or Andy Reid it’s criminal. You said tomlin has built this from the ground up…what the hell do you think Dan Campbell has done??
It’s Sean Mcdermott of Buffalo. We released a lot of players and everybody picked the Dolphins or Jets to win the division.
@@1yankeesruleNick sirianni cause it would be funny af.
Found the chiefs fan.
Why is KOC never mentioned? Campbell and reid have teams that went deep and won the Superbowl. Vikings were bad last year, and many had them picked to be the worst team in football this year. At best, they had them with 6-7 wins. Halfway through the season and we have 7 wins and tied for the 3rd best record in the NFL. That's who deserves coach of the year, not someone who's team is good after almost or winning the Superbowl last year.
With top 15 draft picks yeah
I genuinely think Sean McDermott deserves Coach of the Year consideration.
This was supposed to be the "rebuild" year for the Bills. This was the year the Dolphins & Jets were supposed to leapfrog the Bills while they took a step back.
They lost a ton of veterans, the lost Diggs, they had no cap room, they scraped the bottom of the barrel to piece together a WR corps (right now starting Shakir, Virgil, Hollins & Samuel), and somehow they're off to their best start since 1993.
Mr no November lol
Great top five , well done
"That's four too many"
LMAO
1:39 No way, he needs to play the Steelers 2 times at least this season. That’s the defense he will need to show he deserves the award.
I'm a Ravens fan and I was thinking the same thing. He'll probably get another MVP but that's little consolation if the defense can't allow fewer yards and points and force more turnovers.
in b4 the Bears hire Kliff Kingsbury as head coach this off season
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Baltimore beat Buffalo already???
As much as I want Tomlin to win coach of the year. There has to be something said bout 3 other coaches. Let's start with the coach that lost to Tomlin, in Dan Quinn. What he has done with a team expected to have a top 5 pick this year is nothing short of amazing. Then we have Harbaugh out in LA with the Chargers. Another team in such disarray, and now they winning. Lastly Gannon from Arizona. Similar to Quinn in Washington. A team to be 4th in their divsion, right now in the driver's seat playing outstanding football.
Not sure why the Lions are getting lumped in. Only one game this season that they won, but shoulda lost. This one against the Texans. Close games against Rams and Vikings, but no huge mistakes. Other games were normal or blowouts
Let's be real, Jackson should not have won MVP last year. Should have been McCaffery. This year, Lamar Jackson is a clear front runner.
Chiefs with significantly higher time of possession, more yards, more first downs… explain to me again how the Broncos “controlled the entire game”? Was it when they didn’t score for the final 36 minutes?
Yes, Denver could’ve won, but they were far from dominating in the way that the Monday morning QBs are suggesting.
There are six or seven teams that need to draft a QB next year but only two QBs worth tanking for.
Who’s sad they didn’t do one more?
Crown Royal uniforms lol!
Tomlin isn’t COTY. Dan Campbell or Andy Reid are and that’s not up for debate 😂 being cheap at QB isn’t a super quality.
There’s Sean McDermott of Buffalo that will have a say in it also.
It’s the fact that he made a decision that nobody really thought it was going to pay off….so far it has but they got all division games the rest of the season
Campbell and Reid were supposed to be very good teams though, COTY always goes to the team that was supposed to suck that made the playoffs
@@1yankeesrulebuffalo has yet to even beat a team above .500
@ nah fr not saying tomlin is gonna win it but he has to be in the convo if not the favorite
Mike McCarthy for coach of the year 💪
Caleb Williams is like Sam Bradford & Kamala Harris, media hype. The media covers up all their flaws & anoints them the "winner" and make the pressure so great on a Head Coach that they have to end up drafting said disaster. The media has way too much power over picking "the next big thing." Every year they do this, they got it right w/ Lebron James, they get it wrong much more often.
Jackson was great... against the Bungles defense.
Andy Reid for Coach of the Year
So Mike Tomlin is coach of the year but they also can’t keep playing the way they’re playing?
That stupid talk that the bears are failing Caleb... Coaching Situation is not worse than the Pats one. Supporting cast is much better than the Broncos, Patriots and Commanders - arguably even the best for any 1st overall pick. He's missing open throws every night, he's holding the ball forever and gets sacked way too much, which is not completely his fault, but more often than not.
If we look at the fellow drafties, Daniels is looking like the far superior player, Maye already had elite flashes and Nix is really starting to look like a really good NFL starting QB. It's just not working out so far and it's not at all just the Bears fault.
Anyone who says Campbell or Reid should be COTY needs to be drug tested. They have great quality players in offense and defense. No one ever thought Chiefs and Lions were going to struggle. Eisen even had them in the Super Bowl. It is a two man race between Tomlin and McDermott. A lot of pundits had low expectations from the Steelers and Bills. Look at them now
If the Commanders win their division Quinn should get some votes. As far as pundits - Vegas in this case - I don't know why they picked the Steelers to finish last in their division. They had a great draft, signed Patrick Queen and improved significantly at quarterback.
9:16 - 9:27 😂😂😂
I have a tough time taking Lamar Jackson as MVP seriously when he's got a RB that was averaging more then 100 yards 10 games in. That by default makes you not the most valuable player when you have a guy brought in who can do that. You can argue "they feed off one another" all you want, it just means they split votes. Which is not what an MVP is about.
STEELERS absolutely wrong. they can keep winning with whatever it takes won with Fields won with Russ won with Defense won with special teams (see Bozwell 6 FG game) won with Offense do you know what a COMPLETE TEAM looks like ????
Detroit was on the other side for 50 years
Caleb Williams will be fine, Matt eberflus will be fired it’s not hard to understand. The best thing for him would be for the bears to give up on him so the rams/browns could grab him because those teams have competent coaches
Every starting offensive lineman for the bears is hurt. And the line didn't start as an elite group
I dunno how you watch what Dan Campbell got his team to do last night and think he isn't coach or the year
Giants fans rejoiced? They were playing in Germany, no?
MY FINS SHOWED UP.BETTER THEN THE GIANT'S
Where’s the Andy Reid love for COTY???
Goff has had one bad game. Lamar has had 2. The Lions may not lose again. No. You can't crown Lamar yet.
Look at their game logs, Lamar has had one avg game and no bad games, Goff has had Two bad games
As a lions fan, I’ll admit that Goff’s bad game was 10x worse than Lamar’s lol
Lamar didn't play bad in those games though. That's what Ravens fans will say.
But that just proves it's a *TEAM* game. Look at how Burrow is playing, yet nobody is calling for him to be MVP because his *TEAM* isn't winning.
Football fans are flakey though, they want to give all the credit to their QB when it's convenient, then hand-wave away any losses. Unless it's the other team's QB, then it's all his fault all the time.
13:46 this guy gets paid to say "that was crazy yesterday."
And a missing starting left tackle for the lions?
Season is over for the Cowboys too.
3 MVPs without ever getting close to a Super Bowl is crazy
MVP is a regular season award…what does it have to do with a Super Bowl ?
AFC championship game is considered not getting close to the superbowl???? Yall say anything to try to discredit that man it’s ridiculous
You are so right about Tomlin.
facts
Allen has a better record? He was completely outplayed and destroyed by those crown royale bags a few weeks ago.
But having a better record is why Lamar won MVP last year, so how can you pretend record isn't a factor now?
Lamar already has better stats than he had all of last season combined, yet he still won MVP because of his record.
@ if you think Lamar won mvp because his team had a better record then you didn’t watch the ravens games last year and see the miracles he worked every week to give the Ravens the top seed in the whole NFL
And he also out performed the hell out of the guy they tried to say was his competition in lasts years mvp race, and the same thing happened from when Allen & Lamar played this year.
Purdy ended with like 5 picks and got sat in the 4th while Lamar did exactly what he does every week he’s healthy. Balled tf out lol
Ppl need to pay attention to the fact that the Bears WHIFFED on the #1 pick.
Caleb was not ever pro ready. He is exactly the same QB he was at USC.
He can’t read NFL defenses, is an AWFUL decision maker (holding onto the ball for 3 seconds is a sack in the NFL) and he cannot scramble bc he’s no longer faster than every single DL player.
Remember when everyone was worried that Daniels would get hurt bc he scrambled too much? Nobody talked about how bad Caleb would be killed by holding onto the ball just like he did at USC.
Daniels got better. Williams hasn’t. The Bears have more talent on offense than they did in 2006 and maybe on defense. But they’re going to maybe win 5 games.
3:05 Why is this dude here?
Executive producer my friend. Why are you here
Okay the lions got away with this one but they are nothing like the chiefs. The lions have put many games away early.
Nobody is beating the Chiefs. It's hilarious.
LMFAO Just watch the Steel Curtain snuff the MVP out of Lamar!!
chris brockman a whole goofy. talm bout some josh allen deserves MVP. boy FOH, mans got thumped by the ravens he had 0tds and lamar had 3, then the following week went 9/30, and on sunday vs the colts played like josh allen in 2018 turning the ball over.
his division also don’t have a team that has more than 4 wins. and he has a good defense(which lamar dunked on). lamar is playing with one of the worst pass defenses in the NFL, you think lamar can go 9/30? you think lamar can afford to throw multiple picks? FOH and stop hating
Another great Sunday Cowboys and Rogers both lost
Chiefs were down by 11. They so mediocre they was able to catch up and win the game. But broncos controlled the game. They score in 1 quarter and was shut down the rest of game. But chuefs played mediocre. They ball!! Stop hating
This Clark show 😂
Chiefs should be 5-4
Lamar IS NOT the league MVP, let alone MVP of his team...
He's overrated. But of course nobody wants to blame him. 3 weeks ago the coaches weren't a issue
So Caleb is a generational talent but none of this is his fault and he needs help. But then if you are brock purdy and picked last, you are penalized for having a good team and being the dude to run it all seamlessly. Can we stop pretending Caleb Williams is good? Bears have lots of issues and he is one of them.
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Steve young was a bust with Tampa bay and an mvp/hof with the 49ers. Coaching and talent matter, Mahomes would not have 3 Super Bowls if he was drafted by the Jets
Worst take ever, the pics were not goffs fault. And he had plenty of time in the pocket. Get off the air
I mean... calebs also not playing well....
Rich is never at work 😔
Bears will not win another game this year😂
That dude's insistence on Josh Allen as MVP is completely delusional. There is not 1 single area where Allen has played Mr Jackson.
I'm a Bills fan, and I agree.
But the MVP voters set that standard last year - record matters more than stats. And if you disagree, just look at the fact that Lamar ALREADY has better stats than he had all of last year. He won MVP because he was the QB on the team with the best record.
So by that logic, Mahomes should be MVP, followed by Allen, then Lamar. In reality, Lamar is the best QB in the league right now.
I have no idea who this guy is but he has terrible takes
Just so I'm sure... Tomlin is the CEO coach who has led a team for MANY years, who is propped up for being over .500, who has 0 members of a coaching tree, but has one-liners that many think are cute? That guy?
Call allen no November while praising Lamar what has Lamar done in the playoffs?
Same as Allen
@kingroyalty9621 exactly but he wants to give lamar another mvp? really?
At least allen has made it to AFC championship game has lamar?
@@kingroyalty9621 saying Allen has done nothing in the playoffs is crazy his playoff stats outside of the one bengals game are incredible....he doesnt play defense too
@@tomnone2695yes
This dude jumped the shark hardcore. Wentz also looked like MVP in 2017, but injuries happen. Lamar's style leads him to a higher injury risk, handing him the award now would be foolish, even if just in jest.
Allen has had at least 3 bad games. How is he still in consideration for MVP. Played two good teams and were embarrassed. But the Bills in a real division and they’re struggling to win 9 games.
embarrassed by the Texans hitting a 59 yarder to win as time expired? Struggling to win 9 games, you know they are 8-2 right now right??? LOL
Yeah the Bills have only played 3 division games...
I definitely know how the Lions and the Chiefs are doing it and I don't want to say it's because of their black and white jerseys😂
i'm not understanding why people are trying to force feed the "Josh Allen MVP" narrative on people.. The Bills have beat 1 team that you look at them and say "that is a good team playing good football".. that's the Cardinals.. The other good teams that Josh has played he threw for under 180 both times, went 9/30 in one of them and lost both.. and now if he beats Pat and the Chiefs "oh he might be atop the MVP conversation".. how?? he's coming off a game with 0 TDs and 2 picks
Hater gonna hate! Haters not gonna understand Lol. Go Bills!
Have yall just over looked LJ beat the bills this season and I don't think it was even close gtfo here always bringing him up he can't carry a team like Lj bye
Buffalo was hurt against Baltimore. Wait until they play us when we are all healthy.
@1yankeesrule so we're we it's the nfl no one made those excuses when we lost to yall when we were injured. we talking bout here and now what had happen yall got waxed
Lamar beat the Bills, or did the Ravens *TEAM* beat the Bills?
Because if you want to give him all the credit for the win, you have to give him all the blame for losing to the Raiders & Browns - 2 of the worst teams in the league. Doesn't matter if he played well in those games, you're setting it up as the QB wins games, not the *TEAM.*
@corey2232 I mean they try and do it for Allen
@corey2232 then he should of caught that int the safety dropped or when others player make mistakes it always comes back to Lj he should of done more and he has done more with less thru the years then Allen. He also has done nothing in the playoffs but it's OK to pin it all on Lj always
Morrison is the worst guest host
what makes you believe that?
Didn’t Josh just have two interceptions and zero touchdowns?
He had a TD rushing.
Still won. Did u watch the game or read the stat line 🤡
What is it like his 3rd interception in 10 weeks?
@Lachaud11 Jealous haters can't help themselves. Go Bills
@@joe-gow9269 liking your own comment and calling someone else a 🤡. He can’t be an mvp candidate with one of the worst qb performances in nfl history a few games ago. Now stop liking your comments and go touch grass.
Imagine a world where a guy (who is GREAT btw) that has the best RB ever, IS more RB than QB himself (doesn't really matter though), yet has not ONCE shown to be a playoff winning QB (2-4) ...is going to be the MOST VALUABLE player more than the guy who just keeps winning ALL the time. Another guy is 15-3 in playoffs, going for 4th ring in 7 seasons, is 5-1 vs Lamar, and hasn't lost since Xmas OR not won the SB since 2021 😳
It's this Year Playboy
It's a regular season award and if the Chiefs had the Ravens defense they would not be 9-0, or .500 this year so far.
God, do I miss when every dipstick didn't have a place to spout their hot takes outside of their local bar. This comment is beyond stupid/rage bait. Lamar has the 2nd highest win% since 2018 behind only Mahomes.
Rodgers and Manning both have more MVP's than Brady, the literal GOAT, but don't even combine for half as many rings. Manning also took 6 seasons to win 1 playoff game and started 2-4 in the postseason, just like Lamar has so far. KC fans are just insufferable and have to interject themselves into everything.
@@tyronejacksonjr.2419 Again? If not, gonna start sounding like Cowboys fans.
It's a regular season stat award. He should win it. Mahomes doesn't have monster stats or he would win it. Not that hard to understand. Don't get caught up in the definition of words just know how people use them.
Kirk has cte. Get him out fron behind the desk
Didn't b-more beat buffalo 🦬 already this year???
35-10 Ravens
That doesn’t matter. Buffalo was hurt and we don’t have players like Baltimore has and we have a better record than u guys. Baltimore lost to Cleveland and the Raiders. We lost to Baltimore and Houston. 2 good teams.