Terry Pratchett - The Humanist - BBC
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Mark Lawson talks to Terry Pratchett about humanism, religion and his opinions. Great short video from BBC show Mark Lawson Talks to Terry Pratchett. Watch more high quality videos on the new BBC Worldwide UA-cam channel here: / bbcworldwide
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RIP Terry, we'll miss you :(
+Tony Hammitt already do
I can't believe it's so long ago. I cried when he died. Same with Robin Williams. So, so sad.
How can you say that just because of his beliefs? And have you even picked up any of his books? A humanistic approach is unbelievably evident in every one of them, and if you think that a slight splash of humanism his books could be offensive, then you must be stupid, blind, or don't know his work.. Pratchett mocks every aspect of society in his books. A display of his own beliefs is probably the LEAST 'offensive' thing in them.
my hero!
Lookin' at the comments, I can see why Terry might feel like it's hard to believe in humanity.
Terry Pratchett is hero... If those reading this have not read Mort yet, then you dont know what your missing... Its 'Monty Python' funny ;0)
HIS COMMENT AT 0.35 SAYS IT ALL
terry writes the greatest fiction, i'm so glad he wrote about football.
Dear Hulk -Pratchett is a genius, his works have the bite of truth inside their hilarious irony - his insoussiance alone speaks of what Hubbard said that "the universe surrenders to the Spirit of Play" - hence if you're serious - you lose - so
lighten up my friend - and disgard your prejudice
He's so interesting...definitely an agnostic but open-minded about the existence of the soul and the possibilities of the universe.
Religion serves two purposes.
The lies You tell yourself to deal with your fears and the lies the Religion tells you to keep you in your place.
What? Excuse me, that's what some humanists believe, that believing in a god could be damaging to humanity. I wasn't personally insulting you or your religion, just saying that humanism is not a branch of Christianity, nor affiliated with any notion of the Christian god. I addressed your points by bringing up a true, factual argument, which you chose to take offensively. I don't mind continuing the debate if you want, but there's not that much to debate.
@JimboGee1234 I personally think everything is aware of it's own death. Fear of death is one of the most potent emotions in the animal, and human, kingdom. Even animals know that if they stop running whilst being chased, they'll be eaten. If they stop flying, they'll fall, and crash. And, I don't quite understand how people can still say evolution is a 'belief', when it is scientic, proven fact.
after man gained the ability to think and imagine the future we stated to wonder about the less immediate the points of what we did like “we find food to eat but why do we eat?” because if we don’t we die” “ but we die eventually any way, so aging why eat” “because we’d live longer” “what’s the point in living longer if you die any way what’s the point in living at all for that matter”. We fell there must be a point because for our ancestors every thing had one so how could living its self not
@JimboGee1234 your quote fishing (taking a small extract of what someone says to make it look like they mean something they don't) what I actually said was in it's entirety."that was probably just something who ever wrote it came up with to get people to stop asking what the pilers that people thought help up the world stood on"
Oh look, youtube comments.
@JimboGee1234 there are sky scrapes in Portugal, I have no idea if that's true but it my best guess based on the fact that Portugal's a developed country and most developed counties have sky scrapers, that's how making a best guess works
@juzt156 My comment was in reply to BritishBeliver's "Humanism... Dont' make my laugh.". I am not sure we disagree.
Exactly!
@JimboGee1234 they didn't get it from any where they didn't know, they did know there where two possible either the earth floated in space or something directly held it up so they made a best guess and picked the one that made the most sense
jolly spiffing argument that one chaps! i tip my hat to you sir
@JimboGee1234 "It also speaks of a place called babylon" so what Babylon is less then 600 miles from Jerusalem of course they know about it. "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing" that was probably just something who ever wrote it came up with to get people to stop asking what the pilers that people thought help up the world stood on "just say there's no pilers and that it floats some how"
That was @juzt156
A humanist is a completely different thing to a Christian. Humanists believe humans are of the upmost importance, not money, not power, and most importantly, not gods.
@JimboGee1234
well the univerese is big, so big you cant even imagine how big, so the chances the a planet will form perfect for life isnt that small probabillity.
@255ad that should" the bible was written 3000 years ago"
@JimboGee1234 we ask because in the animal world and in a lot of world of accident man every thing we did had an immediate point, we found food to eat, we mated to continue the species.
Despite the fact that he said "im quite sure that he's not there"?
@notthere83 I'm sorry, I phrased it wrongly, I suppose :) Maybe if I say that humanists place life as a whole above all else :D
@BertFicuselastica. I apologise I have obviously misunderstood, I did not see his comment. I just somtimes feel the athiest vs beliver debates are a toatal waste of time for everyone involved. No one can agree so it just degenerates into slanging matches. What is the point?
@255ad thar should be "in a lot of world of ancient man"
do they too, have to be a little more than just flesh and bones? Or do they operate under some other 'mechanisms'? What about self conscious animals like the great apes, dolphins, asian elephants.. (and probably a few more that we have yet to learn or have the right test to carry out experiments).. do they require 'souls' to power them up?
the ancient people of Jerusalem presumable reasoned that either something held up the earth witch must either go on forever of be floating in space, or the earth it's self floated in space and as they knew of nothing that went on forever they ruled that out, but they did no of things like birds and the moon that could float in space, they also presumably reasoned that it would be pointless for god to put the earth on something that floated when he could just make the planet it's self float.
@JimboGee1234 Babylon wasn't destroyed it's inhabitance just slowly petered out during the Islamic period the city it's self is still standing in fact.
@Bexby hm... i know how you probably meant it but to me, that definition sounded somewhat opportunistic and cold because i immediately thought "and what about the rest of nature? shouldn't other life be respected as well?". and i would think it would come natural to humanists who care for other people to care for other living nun-human beings as well...
but i guess i'm just being nitpicky ;)
@JimboGee1234
If you're a Christain, I can imagine it's pretty hard to get your head around, but I don't want to believe in your god, I never will, and I'm more content believing there is nothing after death then I ever would be thinking I would spend an eternity as a footman for a omnipotent, hypocratic old man who thinks it's perfectly spiffy to spawn intolerant, stuck up believers, and I do believe most secularists would think the exact thing, thank you very much.
@JimboGee1234 by witch I meant if it wasn't clear enough that having the earth stand on something doesn't make sense and whoever wrote the bible new that it didn't and he new people would know that and so he wrote that earth floated in space because he new that did make sense to people because people already new from things like birds that not every thing fell downward all the time.
@JimboGee1234
he hasnt dismissed god. he just says that hes open minded like me. if there is a god or some higer being i dont see how he would care about our day to day activities
@JimboGee1234
who says were his only creation, anyway this is my opinion.well to me at least it feels like we have been abandoned, or he at least just observes and has no intention of doing anthing except to watch his little experiment
@JimboGee1234 I don't think a theist can talk about lack of evidence like that. It reminds me about this old saying about pots and kettles, you see.
@JimboGee1234 Terry Pratchett didn't know about his alzheimers when he filmed this interview
and the reason "death still doesnt seem natural" for mankind is because we have only recently evolved the ability to understand things will change in the future and as such it is not part of ours or any animal's normal sociological function to know that we will come to end one day.
P.S although I'm not convinced one way or the other there are convincing philosophical arguments for the existence of god (Thomas Aquinas, Mortimer Adler) it's just your comment isn't one of them
@truthoutmedia And since when have Christians put the needs of real humans above the imagined beliefs of their imagined god? That is what seperates humanists from Christians.
i think when the government refers to god the mean the god of freemasonry.
@Bexby mmm, notice you didnt even attempt to address my points, instead resorting to insults, 'imagined god, imagined beliefs'.
On that note, I bid you farewell.
Our intelligence is just as much of an evolution as a cheetah's speed, or a rabbit's hearing. It's not that hard to understand, I'm sure. And if you had any knowledge about evolution, you could answer your own question on why we are aware of our own death, and why we are the only humans in the galaxy. By simply voicing those questions proves that you don't know what you're talking about. And the comment about the ape was irony, by the way. Just letting you know.
@JimboGee1234 There's a natural beauty to the concept of evolution, and I am happy to be an ape. Ape's are generally more civilised then people, anyway.
Besides, evolution makes much more sense then the notion we are all the inbreed love children of a rib-woman who pissed off a giant Father Christmas. But there you go. I know you're not Christian, but these are MY beliefs. We're all different, and believe in different things. That should be celebrated.
No, seriously, we have our own taxonomic name, you know Homo sapiens? That's only the end part of it, we are also in the family Hominidae which is the ape family, and includes the four extant apes: Humans, Chimps, Bonobos and Orangutans. We share a common ancestry with other apes because we ARE apes. Also, he didn't condemn anyone, he just despaired at the stubborn ignorance of the opponents of established science.
@JimboGee1234 you didn't say the earth is held up by nothing what you said that what said was in the bible and what said is the earth goes around the sun.they didn't know know the earth stood on nothing they probably just said it floated because they new that if the earth was held up by something then that would have to be held up by something and so and so forth forever and the new one that didn't make sense and two it would confuse believers so the decided it just floated
@MortalTodd Ook!!
@MortalTodd
The human mind is a gibberish making machine. The hilarious aspect of what you are saying, is that you are so adamant and hostile about the gibberish that you've made sense of not being gibberish, whereas you consider the gibberish that you are incredulous of (because, honestly, it has nothing to do with proof now does it?) to be nonsense! Figs and plums, it's all the same human folly.
@BertFicuselastica, I don't agree. Wheather you belive in God or not Christainaity has had an effect on the world and still does. I don't belive in dismissing any belif or system (no matter how odd) as valueless. Everything has its place.
@JimboGee1234 before I start I'm going to say I don't believe or disbelieve in god, that being said the first six things you listed can easily be explained mathematically by the fact that there are believed to thousands of planets orbiting billions of stars and everything you listed including love and gravity are likely to acer some where
Thinking about souls simply shows a lack of imagination, a strange charge to level against Pratchett but I think it is justified. His remark about going off like a light and at least being able to get some rest shows either very subtle irony or a refusal to contemplate what consciousness and existence is. If you are a body and not a soul when you stop working you cease to exist as a being able to experience anything, even oblivion.
What's this - an intelligent, rational, objective person on UA-cam?? My God* I had to rub my eyes!!
*or possibly "my Cosmological Acciddent"
@Bexby Also, as regards power, Jesus said that anybody who humbles himself shall be exalted, any whoever exalts himself shall be humbled. Do you base your entire opinion of Christians on the cockroaches at the top?
If there is a God, His name is Terry Pratchett.
@JimboGee1234 I haven't just been saying "no" I've said "no" then explains my reasons why your why your wrong, my theory is that earth floating made more sense then the alternative, all my other arguments about death made perfect sense and I'm not going to repeat i a third time and on the Babylon thing you where just wrong.
@MortalTodd
proof?
has to be a little more and not just flesh and bones? What about rats, chickens, cockroaches eh?
Let me guess, are you a fundamentalist Christian? People are free to believe in whatever they want! So, who cares if he doesn't necessarily believe in a god, but likes to think that the soul lives on after death? I'm an agnostic, leaning towards atheism, and I believe the exact same thing! Does that mean that when I know I'm about to die I'll become a bible-basher? I hope not, I don't want to ever have any affliation with a religion who has no tolerance for any belief other then their own.
It would be nice if the world would just wake up to the fact that there's nothing outside of what we can see and touch.
Understand your neighbour, and communicate.
Then we can all get on with our lives, without the hogwash.
Have an ordinary day.
@JimboGee1234. Evolution is by defenition a theory. It is the most LIKELY explanation for the development of life on this plannet. There is no conclusive evidence for either creationism or evolution. Neither does evolution prove or disprove the existance of God. Athiests and Thiests can argue this out for all eternity without either getting closer to a definitive answer. These arguments achive nothing.
@JimboGee1234, Interesting that you would presume to call Terry Pratchett pathetic. To say nothing of the fact that you are wrong, and his humanism predates his diagnosis, I submit that it is pathetic to believe in things for no reason, that you cannot see or even understand and yet claim to have knowledge that no human could. As for humanism, if you don't see the value of prioritizing your fellow creatures then your opinion is useless.
@JimboGee1234 "That should be a nice little project for you to go and look up" you haven't earned the right to be condescending
No I haven't. :-) hahah.. ok.. let me go find out.
@JimboGee1234
well this will be my last comment. Personally i hope there is a god, but i wont be holding my breath till i find out
hahah.. ok ok.. how very interesting.. well.. at least that makes some 'logical' sense.
Christianity... Don't make me laugh.
Well that got us somewhere didn' it?
Hey everyone, I want to start a little movement for non-religious people. What I want to do is cross off "In God We Trust" on every bill you get, just to show the government that they should not pick sides on religious issues and assert that the U.S. is a Christian nation. That is not freedom of religion.
Terry is aparently an admirer of L Ron Hubbard's lectures and books - as every one of his works display an in-depth understanding of LRH's works. Those who ahve studied LRH's works, will read Pratchett and be astonished at his application of data from Hubbard's writings and lectures - and that's a "FACT(-or)"!
And here I thought Hubbard founded a church - go figure 😂
"You've GOT to think that humans have souls!" ... no sir, no sir you don't.